That one's got me ever so slightly confused, as well.Originally Posted by Okosh
One minute, I'm Lynne, the next MoneyMakingBrain has gasp-shock-horror traced me to Western Australia, like it is some sort of secret.
And, I STILL can't work out MMBs fascination with finding IP numbers and service providers.
What on earth does he think having someones' IP number means ??
I mean, here's a recent story about how my service provider has spent MILLIONS taking on Hollywood over its' (iinets) refusal to identify alleged illegal movie downloaders: Media Wave | iiNet vs Hollywood - Anthony Palmer Comments
What does the Brain think ???The iiNet decision in the Australian Federal Court was a landmark in the global battle of rights holders versus file sharers. What implications does it have for content creators?
Any self respecting service provider is going to hand over any information pertaining to an IP number alleged, by an anonymous forum poster using the handle 'MoneyMakinBrain," to have been used illegally, while simultaneously spending millions of dollars fighting the might of the Hollywood film industrys' attempts to obtain the same type of information ??
C'mon, that's so much nonsense it hardly bears repeating, much having the slightest concern over.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
Rinse, repeat.
Anyone see what's wrong with these statements ??
The United States' most famous investorWarren Buffett, from 1965-2005, has produced an ANNUAL average return of 21.5%, which is double the return of the S&P 500 - including dividendsGeorge Soros - the man that broke the Bank of England - generated an ANNUAL return of 30% through his Quantum Fund from 1970-2000, nearly three times the average return of the S&P 500.MoneyMakingBrains' hero, the hitherto unknown Frederick Mann is offering a DAILY return of 2% to his investors
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ
That's because Okosh is the Littleroundman too! (duh?):
58.165.xxx.xx - - [03/Mar/2012:00:04:13 -0500] "Get HTTP/1.1" 200 49 "http://realscam.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2"
203.206.xx.xxx - - [17/Feb/2012:23:38:42 -0500] "GET HTTP/1.1" 403 185 "http://www.realscam.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2"
124.169.xx.xx - - [19/Feb/2012:19:31:28 -0500] "GET HTTP/1.1" 301 254 "http://www.realscam.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2
Always using a Firefox 10.02 browser with and Windows NT 5.1 OS. What are the chances of an IP be accompanied with identical Windows OS and browser right down to the same exact version? Well, in a thread that doesn't receive that many visitors like this one, zero, zilch, nada, let alone exact Gecko version.
Your demeanor and writing style is also identical to littleroundman's, and the lttleroundman is either a sock puppet or meat puppet of Lynn Edgington's, it makes no difference to the MMB. No matter how you slice this pie, pie is rotten. The level of sock puppetry on this site is off the BS scale for sure.
This phoney boloney site was set up to make Eagle Research Associates look good, says I :)
MMB
Last edited by littleroundman; 03-14-2012 at 08:36 PM.
LOL...YOU IDIOT......You didn't get my IP from here....You got it from me looking at your stupid blog
Demeanor would be cos we both Aussies who love to slap idiots like you around on a Saturday arvo cos there's no footy to watch....Your demeanor and writing style is also identical to littleroundman's, and the lttleroundman is either a sock puppet or meat puppet of Lynn Edgington's, it makes no difference to the MMB. No matter how you slice this pie, pie is rotten. The level of sock puppetry on this site is off the BS scale for sure.
This phoney boloney site was set up to make Eagle Research Associates look good, says I :)
MMB
Writing style??...LOL....He's educated and I'm not....He can spell and I can't....
Yep...Both look the same to me....NOT....
Last edited by littleroundman; 03-14-2012 at 08:37 PM.
ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ
Sorry Littleruinedman but you are the idiot if you can't understand the significance and the relevance of the information I just threw at you. It's probably hard to believe that the MMB could have infiltrated your playground like this, and you're still in denial that you are caught for being the worst admin in the history of forums. Only a coward and pathetic person would go to such lengths to create content out of thin air. If your real name is OKosh, that could be easily established by serving your ISP, court papers to compel them to reveal your name and address. I am not threatening you here. It's just the way these things are done.
If you had been a pedophile fugitive of the law, or a child porn video subscriber, I would have gotten the authorities in Perth raiding your home/office computers on a flip of a dime. As I said, the MMB is not a sanitation worker, so I'll leave that IP info on the Google blog for someone else to use it, in case it's ever needed.
There is no question in my mind that you and Lyndel (if not joined to the hip as one) had initially very good intentions in creating this forum, but you have been spewing out crap about people you don't even know lately, and it's no question in my mind that you are desperate to create content at any cost just like that reckless fear-monger Patrick Hernan. Naturally, the jury is still out on Fred Mann and his JBP, and you and PPblog can still be found to be right about him. But, you have absolutely no business to second guess the outcome using speculation and conspiracy theories in the name of justice, let alone purport to be fighting "scam". Your activities on this forum has the potential to ruin innocent people's lives, and are as dubious as the people you judge hereby.
Well guess what? I have provided you with lots of content that is backed up by the facts, not speculation. I said this from the get go: IP DETECTOR revealed egregious abuse of administrative powers on this site, and this behavior is consistent with yours. Lynn has, at least, used more than one sock puppet to create the illusion of consensus and in more than one occasion, which suggests that he too engages in sock puppetry himself.
Your mistake Littlroundman was not creating a excuse to ban me like that paranoid Patrick Hernan did,..so... as for your statement that, you let the trolls hang themselves up on your forum (I am paraphrasing here), you were the fool one here for considering the MMB one.
MMB
Poor MMB says this in his post 361, and I quote:
"Not "everyone" Lynn, the professor is not a sock-puppeteer. And, don't second guessing my comments, another bad habit of yours. Anyway, you got no clue as to where I am going with all this or why I had to expose you for what you are: a dangerous sock puppeteer. As for who reads the MMB report - you just got no idea who does.
MMB"
But in his post #351 in response to Prof's post he says this, and again I quote:
"Well Lynn, I kind of knew that all along. I was just waiting for the moment you used the rope I gave you to hang yourself up.
And needless to say, you that fell in the trap."
sure sounds like you are calling him, errr I should say me, a sock puppet. Opps, goofed didn't you.
EagleOne
Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
Ooooh, gosh, that is gonna debunk everything I've said up to this point. LOL!
You keep grasping to straws and keep trying to deviate from the conversation. OK so I misquoted that, I but never called professor your puppet, and FYI, I can't edit stuff out on this board.
Anyway Lynn, for one day, you've done enough damage to that image of the 'honest' and 'serious' "business" research man you purport yourself to be.
Go to sleep little old man, if you are on the west coast of the USA, that is.
MMB
Actually caught you in a lie. Bummer isn't it. But thanks for your concern, but I am a big boy and can take care of myself.
Gee, you mean you had to look at IP's to know that I am on the west coast? Too funny. My location has been posted since day one of this forum. So much for your expert investigative skills. Just like always, you are have been wrong about everything you have claimed here. But don't let the facts get in the way of your total incompetence at investigation. My two cockatiels are better at research and investigation than you are.
Last edited by EagleOne; 06-21-2012 at 05:11 PM.
EagleOne
Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
I wouldn't say that he started it only a few days ago, Okosh. He advertised it - one of the very, very few ads for it I found - in Oct. 2010. See http://www.blogcatalog.com/user/stay..._source=widget
The really, really, really funny thing about all of this is, he's wrong.
And, that would be wrong about everything.
AND, what's even funnier is, he's being lead along by the nose and played for an absolute fool, and yet, he doesn't realize it.
He's so far down the rabbit hole he's dug for himself, his theories are becoming more and more ludicrous by the day.
Listen carefully "MoneyMakingBrain" we AREN'T going to ban you.
We WANT you to keep posting.
In fact, we're going to keep prodding and poking your ego to make sure you keep posting.
Speaking personally, I couldn't be happier than if you or Freddie applied to subpoena our identities or, even better still, instituted court action.
Go for it.
I'm not going to attempt to prove or disprove whether or not I'm Lynne, not for one second.
I WANT you to take it further. I WANT you to keep believing your delusions.
It's fu***** hilarious watching you flail about with your childish explanations.
The longer we can keep you here spouting your nonsense, the better we can use you as an example to readers of exactly what to look out for when it comes to identifying online fraud and ESPECIALLY as a demonstration of how apparently normal people can be persuaded onto the "dark side" of the 'net by clever tricksters.
In years to come, we'll be able to simply refer back to this thread and tell readers "This is how the saying "Don't let yourself be MoneyMakingBrained by criminals" came into being.
Now, you'll have to excuse me, I have to go put on my American accent and turn into Lynne.
Damn, now you've made me lose my train of thought.
Am I supposed to be Lynne, or Heather, or am I Okosh next and THEN Lynne ??
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
Well, I wouldn't believe what you say because you are professional liar. Anyway, in case you haven't noticed, this isn't about your location, Lynn, and your defense hinged on the theory that you were supposed to be a respected and an 'honest' man, which I have demonstrated you are not. So, your location to the MMB is irrelevant, your actions, however, are of a highly deceptive guy and I wouldn't be surprised if you are currently engaged in other unethical, maybe even illegal activities. Is there a reason why PayPal is not allowing Eagle Research Associates PP account to be used for donations anymore? Right, like you are gonna tell anyone the truth.
MMB
Last edited by EagleOne; 06-21-2012 at 05:11 PM.
But, but, but how can that be.Originally Posted by EagleOne
I've only got one cockatiel, and if I'm you, I should have two.
Bummer, now I'm gonna have to spend my whole Saturday night searching for the other one.
BUT WAIT !!
If I'm you, then it's not Saturday night. If I'm you it's 1.48am Saturday morning and not 5.48pm Saturday evening.
So why did I just cover the cockatiels' cage ???
I could have sworn my timezone is GMT + 8.00
Owwwwwwwwww......the Brain has me sooooooooooooo confused.
NOT !
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
MMB: Don't worry about our PayPal account. You will be able to donate shortly. But thanks for your concern.
EagleOne
Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
Littleroundman, that's by far the stupidest thing any admin would ever say even to an anonymous "troll". You spew more crap, and talk about more garbage than the slums of India and Haiti combined. Fact is, you are either in denial of the data I left for you or an ignorant for not understanding it, but that's only the tip of the iceberg of your activities. You don't understand it, but it shows you posting with multiple IP's and with different user accounts but from one computer, and that's administrative corruption.
Even the fact that Lynn appears to be losing sleep from all this, and 'magically' and against all odds, he is posting always with you here and Patrick's blog, is not a big, but a HUGE red flag. Obviously, I am not gonna subpenaed you or Lynn for being sock puppeteers or internet liars, but it's a good idea to warn people of the joke this forum is. Ans, in all likelihood, it was designed to highlight Lynn and his EagleOne company, or at least that's the apparent motive.
MMB
But what if we DO want you to keep posting ??
(and, believe me, we do)
Tell you what, can you PLEASE, PLEASE post the data showing me posting from 2 places, pretty please.
I just GOTTA see this.
I won't be able to sleep tonight not knowing how I'm supposedly doing this.
[secret message] Lynne, let's get our stories straight. Those pictures of the author, Lynne Edgington, did we end up deciding to use the pix of me being you, or you being me ?[/end secret message]
If you think that's the most stupid thing an admin has ever said to an anonymous troll, you really DO need to get out more.Originally Posted by MoneyMakingBrain
Stick around, there's plenty more stupid things where THAT came from.
Meanwhile, back on topic:
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
HaHaHaHa-bloody-Ha.You don't understand it, but it shows you posting with multiple IP's and with different user accounts but from one computer, and that's administrative corruption.
Administrative corruption.
That's a good one.
Psst, just quietly, does anyone have any idea what administrative corruption has to do with the running of a privately funded internet forum ??
BTW, I'm still waiting for MoneyMakingBrains' and his magical IP tracing capabilities to show me my multiple accounts.
Failing the production of said proof, one might think MoneyMakingBrain is talking from the wrong end of his anatomy.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
Littleruinedman,
I can't help you if your thinking comes from the wrong end of your anatomy, On your BEST day you're not as smart as I am on my worst day. If you live to be a
hundred you will never be as smart as me. My grandma always told me; beauty fades, but dumb is forever!
I have converted IP Detector's time references to your time, so your brain can easily understand how this thing works:
I came to RS to post in your forum on February 17 5:23 AM (your time), right?
http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-w...0/index10.html
You approved my post and replied on February 18, 12:15 AM (see exhibit #1):
203.206.xx.xxx - - [18/Feb/2012:12:15:04] "GET HTTP/1.1" 403 185 "http://www.realscam.com/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=810" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2"
So, we can easily establish that you are the guy who uses the FireFox browser version 10.0.2 with an old NT 5.1 OS computer, right?
Now, if I can establish beyond any doubt that you use multiple accounts to perform this sock puppeteer's deception of yours, then you are guilty as charged, and one can assume that you can be anybody, including Lynn. But remember, just being his 'meat puppet' is bad and dishonest enough.
Now, going back to the first day, when "Whip" shows up and posts at 12:31 PM. It's a one liner (very short comment), so the only possible user who could have seen the new posts would have been someone before that time frame:
And who that user was? YOU, of course! (see exhibit #2):
203.206.xx.xxx - - [17/Feb/2012:12:20:22] "GET HTTP/1.1" 403 185 "http://www.realscam.com/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=810" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2"
AND HERE YOU ARE VIEWING THE THREAD AND REPLYING TO YOURSELF (POST #239) AT 12:33pm and responded at 12:38PM (see exhibit #3):
203.206.xxx.xxx- - [17/Feb/2012:12:33:11] "GET HTTP/1.1" 403 185 "http://www.realscam.com/f8/justbeenpaid-810/index10.html" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2"
203.206.xx.xxx - - [17/Feb/2012:12:33:41] "GET HTTP/1.1" 403 185 "http://www.realscam.com/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=810" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2"
203.206.xx.xxx - - [17/Feb/2012:12:38:42] "GET HTTP/1.1" 403 185 "http://www.realscam.com/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=810" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2"
You like to use the preview function a lot, don't you?
Now in your 'defense', the only users besides you and I, who saw those two posts between 12:15 PM and 12:31 PM on February 17 were only two people: one user from Edmonton, Canada and another one from New Jersey (see exhibit #4):
161.184.xx.xxx - - [17/Feb/2012:12:18:20] "GET HTTP/1.1" 200 49 "http://www.realscam.com/f8/justbeenpaid-810/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.0; Trident/4.0; GTB7.2; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET4.0C; .NET CLR 3.0.30729)"
71.48.xx.xxx - - [17/Feb/2012:12:28:59] "GET HTTP/1.1" 200 49 "http://www.realscam.com/f8/justbeenpaid-810/" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.26) Gecko/20120128 Firefox/3.6.26"
So, you could argue that one of these two users could have been "Whip", right? Well, the closest user present around the time when Whip's post appeared, was the one from New Jersey at (12:28PM). However, Whip didn't make one, but two posts; between 12:31 PM and 1:07 AM, (now February the 18th).
So, in order to prove that any of these two users was "whip", either 161.184.96.209 or 71.48.99.180 would have had to be detected more than once within that time frame. But unfortunately for you, that was never the case and in fact, you were the most active in that thread and constantly refreshing your browser. So, also by this process of elimination I can determine and verify that you were posting as Whip. You can confirm this data exhibits with your host's web logs, it should all match.
So, LittleRoundMan or whoever the heel you are, that's just an example of how IP DETECTOR works and believe me, I am only showing the tip of the iceberg here; sock puppetry coming from your site is at an unprecedented level and way off the BS scale.
I recommend you seek mental therapy at once, before you start talking to the wrong end of your anatomy.
I can also detect even when you try to post, then change your mind, using any of your dynamic IP addresses (see exhibit #5):
124.150.xx.xx - - [21/Feb/2012:22:12:14] "GET HTTP/1.1" 301 254 "http://www.realscam.com/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=810" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2"
Indeed your IP is dynamic. iiNet appears to be the ISP of choice for crooks and spammers:
Day Eight: AFACT solicitor grilled on ISP disconnections - iTnews
In fact here is your list of current IP's:
203.206.69.xxx
203.59.158.xx
124.169.230.xx
124.169.56.xxx
Okosh?
58.165.172.xx
All of them appear to come from the same computer. While I am not 100% sure that OKosh it's really you, it would be a bizarre coincidence that he uses the same exact OS and and browser, right down to the exact versions. Since his rants and diatribes are almost identical to yours, hey, you decide! :)
But, you are right that this is a privately funded site. It's primarily Lynn Edgington's scam forum (maybe even Patrick Pretty is in on this) designed to highlight his company Eagle Research Associates. Hopefully the IRS audits him, since PayPal already suspects him of being, in his own right, a scammer. PayPal knows when some merchants are very suspicious. As I said from the get go, The MBB makes no distinctions between sock puppets and meat puppets.
So "LRM", please don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. This is a real scam forum because of you. Thanks for helping the MMB create content out of thin air. The MMB never had to contend with a dumber sock puppeteer than you. Do you feel as if you're getting the wrong end of your anatomy whipped? (LOL!) You sure are!
MMB
Last edited by littleroundman; 03-14-2012 at 08:39 PM.
Don't forget to read MMB public blog:
Creating Content Out of Thin Air: LittleDumbMan : Check Mate
Keep feeding this "troll", you dumb admin. :)
MMB
And for those who can't still understand anything from the logs data I posted above, much less believe the "littledumbroundman" could be so stupid playing like that on his 'own' forum, just take a look at Whip's account creation date:
View Profile: Whip - RealScam.com - Is it, or isn't it? You Decide.
Exact same date. What are the odds?
MMB
I get it... after all these posts you are really..........drum roll..........NOT Don.. Not one single one of you.....Originally Posted by littleroundman
The really, really, really funny thing about all of this is, he's wrong.
.....[lots of antipodean stuff].....
Am I supposed to be Lynne, or Heather, or am I Okosh next and THEN Lynne ??
ÇI don't care what your IP address is, whetyher its hidden, proxied, dynamic or simplyworn out, you are NOT Don. None of you.
Next question:
Does it matter who you are?
Answer: No
Relevance of Answer: None
Next Question:
How does Fred Mann manage to generate 2% per day when he is not doing any trading, investing, or has any outside source of revenue other than new people joining, people compounding their earnings, and reinvesting.?
Answer: Looks like a scam to most, but anyone defending him will know the answer if it is legitimate (unless they are total idiots)
Relevance of answer: Significant if you wish to defend Fred Mann against accusations of running what is a prima facie illegal ponzi scheme.
Blimey, that MMB, he's got it, by George he's got it!
You are dumber than dumb. Get a load of "radical" guy now:
View Profile: Lil Ol' Radical Me - RealScam.com - Is it, or isn't it? You Decide.
Join date is the exact date as littledumbman's
You are the most pathetic and stubborn sock puppeteer I've encountered. Coming to your own defense to save face and with B, desperately trying to change the subject to poor ole devil Fred Mann it's classic LRM. LOL! You're insane to the membrane, seek help, Sir.
BTW, before you correct me;
That's PM not AM (12:15 PM). I forgot to turn the clock to PM there.You approved my post and replied on February 18, 12:15 AM (see exhibit #1):
BTW, How many more puppets did you create on June 23, 2010? LOL!
MMB
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