Thread: Educating Elena

Originally Posted by E2014T

A collection of misfits from the internet can be described as anything but legitimate critics.

It's the diversity of people here at RealScam that makes us so effective....And that's why you, your bestie's over at WLD and the scammers at MMG hate us so much is because we are so effective.....
All of us here at RealScam each bring something different to the table and will continue to have a huge impact on the ability of scammers to scam...
The best part is that there is not a thing you or any of your friends can do to stop us or to slow down our success......

Originally Posted by okosh

The best part is that there is not a thing you or any of your friends can do to stop us or to slow down our success.

Who is trying to stop you? If people really didn't want you around, they would have DDoSed you out of business a long time go. They don't care if you are around or not. The only people who need RS are people like Stacy who are neither here nor there in the industry and these are the very people you are doing everything you can to alienate.

Originally Posted by E2014T

If you are sure, go convince people who believe PayPal gives a damn about them. Then come back and report how many you have convinced and how many you have pissed off.

Paypal is the best pay processor ever....They abide by the "law of the land" and they don't allow scams like TM....With any luck there really is $62million in the account which will make the job of a receiver a lot easier to return funds to victims if we get to that stage.....

Nobody cares how pissed off you and the players get....

Originally Posted by E2014T

The only people who need RS are people like Stacy who are neither here nor there in the industry and these are the very people you are doing everything you can to alienate.

Stacy doesn't need RS....He came here to defend through his "scammer speak" what he has known all along to be just a game....
I'm glad Stacy came here though....He made our job of exposing TM so much easier....He helped more than I ever expected he would....

Originally Posted by okosh

Nobody cares how pissed off the players get.

But no one else but players needs you. The rest of the population can think for themselves. Ask Eddie, if you don't believe me.

Originally Posted by E2014T

The rest of the population can think for themselves.

Obviously,

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we better wrap it up.

Originally Posted by E2014T

But no one else but players needs you.

What makes you think the players need us??....You think the players need/want us disrupting the flow of fresh suckers to deposit funds into the scams so that they can get paid with that money???????????...

I thought you understood how this "industry" works....Clearly you have no clue....

Originally Posted by okosh

What makes you think the players need us?

Well, no one else does, so it must be them :p

Originally Posted by E2014T

Well, no one else does, so it must be them :p

Says who??....You and your irrelevant bestie over over at WLD??.....

Elena you can bring all the ridiculous arguments and BS statements you can dream up but you still can't do thing one to stop the effectiveness of RealScam forum....

Originally Posted by E2014T

Who is going to believe a collection of misfits?

People that are confirming a suspicion and some of the ones running either side of the fence I suspect. Many folks don't know about money/scams and appreciate others taking the time to educate them.

Before I joined I read what many of the posters here had to say and certainly found them credible. Beyond that I learned quite a bit about variations of online frauds from many of the same. I was certainly not new to cons, nor am I easily wowed.
So a I have to imagine a lot of great writers past and present that took time and energy to put up quality posts have a few raving fans.

Originally Posted by E2014T

People who can think for themselves don't need RS, they are fine without you.

People that can change their own oil don't need Lube N Go. Maybe some people find us entertaining?

Originally Posted by E2014T

It's the believers you are after, and you are a lot more likely to piss them off them off than to convince them the activity is illegal.

Personally it's the true victims I'm after, and I think you underestimate the amount of fun this is.

Originally Posted by ribshaw

Personally it's the true victims I'm after

The only true victims I can think of are people who really can't read or count very well, and short of of teaching them how to, what can be done about them?

Originally Posted by E2014T

The only true victims I can think of are people who really can't read or count very well, and short of of teaching them how to, what can be done about them?

Some people are teachable, some learn, and some will end up doing the same stupid **** they always have.

Originally Posted by E2014T

The only true victims I can think of are people who really can't read or count very well, and short of of teaching them how to, what can be done about them?

Where is the world are you getting that? Many victims I have become acquainted with are folks holding master's degrees, JDs (law degrees), CPAs and the like. They are very well educated and informed. Their flaw was that they are honest, trusting people and tend to see others as having those same qualities. I do not like the blame the victim philosophy you seem to be espousing or the idea that victims are not intelligent. Even the victims without a lot of formal education are often very bright. Some victims are very desperate for money and blinded by great need. How sad a turn this thread is taking.

Originally Posted by ribshaw

People that are confirming a suspicion and some of the ones running either side of the fence I suspect. Many folks don't know about money/scams and appreciate others taking the time to educate them.

Before I joined I read what many of the posters here had to say and certainly found them credible. Beyond that I learned quite a bit about variations of online frauds from many of the same. I was certainly not new to cons, nor am I easily wowed.
So a I have to imagine a lot of great writers past and present that took time and energy to put up quality posts have a few raving fans.



People that can change their own oil don't need Lube N Go. Maybe some people find us entertaining?



Personally it's the true victims I'm after, and I think you underestimate the amount of fun this is.

these same old wacky scammer arguments fail at every turn yet again.
This site, nor anyone legitimately posting against scams here, loses one damn thing if no one needs this place or reads here.
We aren't the ones asking anyone for their money.

Originally Posted by ribshaw

Some people are teachable, some learn, and some will end up doing the same stupid **** they always have.

If they are teachable, they need a reading comprehension class and a remedial math class. If they believe PayPal is going to take care of them if TM is illegal, even calculus isn't going to save them.

Originally Posted by E2014T

The only true victims I can think of are people who really can't read or count very well, and short of of teaching them how to, what can be done about them?

Originally Posted by E2014T

If they are teachable, they need a reading comprehension class and a remedial math class. If they believe PayPal is going to take care of them if TM is illegal, even calculus isn't going to save them.

You also seem to be inferring that "Click 10 ADS" and retire are the only types of scams that interest me. There are plenty long and short cons out there that otherwise intelligent people fall for. Doctors and other professionals are notorious for getting scammed in all manner of shady investments. 10 Types of People Who Fall for Scams, Schemes and Cons - DailyFinance

I can't hang out in every gym, country club, and boardroom in America to find out who's zooming who. I can find some of the current scams on the internet and entertain myself. Someone could easily take what is said here and apply it 20 years from now in hard money loans, split strike conversions, viatical and prefunded lawsuit settlements. Any of these offline scams could easily be avoided by some of the same principles applied to a backbench scam like Traffic Monsoon.

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

Many victims I have become acquainted with are folks holding master's degrees, JDs (law degrees), CPAs and the like.

Bernie Madoff's victims, maybe, LRM's victims, maybe, but Scoville's?

Originally Posted by E2014T

The only true victims I can think

With your history, that's hardly an objective view then, is it ???

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

How sad a turn this thread is taking.

You could move most of the posts made in the past 24 hours to a new thread called, "Educating Elena"

Originally Posted by littleroundman

With your history, that's hardly an objective view then, is it ???

These are the only people I've seen fall for online scams. When I see a doctor or a lawyer or a professor clicking 10 ads per day to get rich, I'll let you know right away.

Originally Posted by E2014T

the way most of you conduct yourselves, no one is going to take you seriously.

Fortune telling now ???

How would you possibly know who or how many takes the forum seriously ??

Originally Posted by E2014T

These are the only people I've seen fall for online scams. When I see a doctor or a lawyer or a professor clicking 10 ads per day to get rich, I'll let you know right away.

Hardly a massive representative sample of the population from which to draw conclusions, one would think.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Hardly a massive representative sample of the population from which to draw conclusions, one would think.

I believe what I see. Talk is cheap, especially coming from you.

Originally Posted by E2014T

I believe what I see.

You need new glasses.....Many of the TM pimps on scambook say in their profile where they were educated and what they do for a real job....

So, what would be the real number of Traffic Monsoon members, in your expert opinion ???

100,000 ??? 500,000 ??? two million ???

Again, in your expert opinion, what would be a breakdown of members' occupations ??

Given the fact your mates over on the MMG HYIP ponzi forum claim not many TM participants are members there, the number of TM members posting on one of the TM related pages seems to be less than 1000 and only a few of them discuss their social status or occupation, where exactly are you "seeing" what you believe ???