Thread: New Friendly Social Network

I have just setup a new social networking site at MyBuddy.us - social networking and I am looking for new friendly members and moderators, so if you have time to visit you will be most welcome and the site is open to anyone who speaks english.

What made you choose Oxwall?

I've looked at Oxwall and JCow, but I'm leaning towards paying for phpFox.

Originally Posted by surfer

What made you choose Oxwall?

I've looked at Oxwall and JCow, but I'm leaning towards paying for phpFox.

Hi,

I chose oxwall because it has many features included that many other network scripts charge you extra for and it seems to be easy to manage from the admin area.

The members section also seems to be easy to navigate and use, why don't you give it a try?

Hi GOF,

I will join your social community, if we can do some intelligent marketing before I promote it.

You set up a free autosurf within a community when there were intelligent and honest members who inhabited the place. It worked for a short time. That was an excellent marketing strategy in those days. There was a market for products and services in Adlandpro before the scammers and porn merchants took control and it became Scamlandpro.

You run a web hosting business and all Internet users need a web host. Your community could work if we can teach people what marketing means and start marketing on the Internet as opposed to "Internet Marketing" as defined by spammers and twits who have no business acumen..

Marketing is 1) Searching your brains for a product that would sell in your area. 2) Finding out how much customers would be prepared to pay for the product. 3) Recourcing the product or a product which could burgeon into a new generation of products.

If you have a community of people who want to advertise products and services and be sure that the community it is not taken over by crooks you need your friends at RS behind you and posts here could be a very good introduction for such a community. What could we sell in your new community?

SBM has said that she has often thought of offering “Do Not Mess With Soapbox Mum” stickers for sale. I think that could be a viable business proposition. Is there was a market for them in The US and we knew how much Texans would pay for the product? If SBM launched the product, what would local shopkeepers in Crewe or London pay for a SBM badge or sticker? How much would Brits have to pay to have SBM stickers produced in the UK? Do we have a sales person who would try to introduce SBM to UK retail establishments other than me?

I know what sells in London. Greetings cards sell very well indeed but greetings cards with a difference could be a very good market. How about greeting cards with flower pictures or botanical drawings on the card with a packet of the flower's of seeds inside? Sutton’s seeds in Reading could be interested in producing some graphics and gardening instructions for us to do a bit of market research. I live near Kew Gardens and Richmond Park. I am sure that local shopkeepers would sell greetings cards with a packet of seeds inside, if they were promoted by a Texan web site where a high proportion of big spenders are reputed to live.

A Point for Discussion

I have had other thoughts on a rather macabre note. I have appointed an executor for my will but what would he get for my domains if I am dead and buried?. There should be some value in a domain that was very similar to the notorious Smirnow’s scam, Pathway2prosperity. I would not be surprised if somebody at RS would like to follow in my footsteps and help get Nickers Smirnow banged up. How could an executor for the will of any scam buster get a decent price for the domain or the right person to carry on the deceased person's efforts?

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

Hi GOF,

I will join your social community, if we can do some intelligent marketing before I promote it.

You set up a free autosurf within a community when there were intelligent and honest members who inhabited the place. It worked for a short time. That was an excellent marketing strategy in those days. There was a market for products and services in Adlandpro before the scammers and porn merchants took control and it became Scamlandpro.

You run a web hosting business and all Internet users need a web host. Your community could work if we can teach people what marketing means and start marketing on the Internet as opposed to "Internet Marketing" as defined by spammers and twits who have no business acumen..

Marketing is 1) Searching your brains for a product that would sell in your area. 2) Finding out how much customers would be prepared to pay for the product. 3) Recourcing the product or a product which could burgeon into a new generation of products.

If you have a community of people who want to advertise products and services and be sure that the community it is not taken over by crooks you need your friends at RS behind you and posts here could be a very good introduction for such a community. What could we sell in your new community?

SBM has said that she has often thought of offering “Do Not Mess With Soapbox Mum” stickers for sale. I think that could be a viable business proposition. Is there was a market for them in The US and we knew how much Texans would pay for the product? If SBM launched the product, what would local shopkeepers in Crewe or London pay for a SBM badge or sticker? How much would Brits have to pay to have SBM stickers produced in the UK? Do we have a sales person who would try to introduce SBM to UK retail establishments other than me?

I know what sells in London. Greetings cards sell very well indeed but greetings cards with a difference could be a very good market. How about greeting cards with flower pictures or botanical drawings on the card with a packet of the flower's of seeds inside? Sutton’s seeds in Reading could be interested in producing some graphics and gardening instructions for us to do a bit of market research. I live near Kew Gardens and Richmond Park. I am sure that local shopkeepers would sell greetings cards with a packet of seeds inside, if they were promoted by a Texan web site where a high proportion of big spenders are reputed to live.

A Point for Discussion

I have had other thoughts on a rather macabre note. I have appointed an executor for my will but what would he get for my domains if I am dead and buried?. There should be some value in a domain that was very similar to the notorious Smirnow’s scam, Pathway2prosperity. I would not be surprised if somebody at RS would like to follow in my footsteps and help get Nickers Smirnow banged up. How could an executor for the will of any scam buster get a decent price for the domain or the right person to carry on the deceased person's efforts?

Hi P2P,

Some good questions here!

When I was a member of adlandpro I did run an autosurf program that was reciprical for every 2 sites a member visited they got 1 visit to their own website, but it was abused by some members and then hacked so I closed the site down.

I also ran a forum called Just Perfect at adlandpro and every month the winner recieved membership to one of my download sites that contained many web templates scripts and ebooks, I intend to do something similar on my new business social website MyBuddy.us I would like to take this opportunity to thank members of realscam.com for joining Supplied.us and the support given. However the sites layout and format did not appeal to many and has now been closed.

I can remember you asking me if I could do a website for sheet music that could be downloaded for one of your contacts and I said I could, I can design and host websites for any genuine business and my rates are very reasonable.

The answer to your question of what could we sell? Well anything legal except for adult content or products so no rampant rabbits and no guns, with reference to your executor for the will regarding domain names or websites, I can only offer this advice there are many places on the internet where you can buy and sell domain names and websites so you would need to have this information in your will.

I think I have covered most of your questions? If not then please remind me.

Kind Regards
GOF.

Originally Posted by grumpyoldfart

Hi P2P,

When I was a member of adlandpro I did run an autosurf program that was reciprical for every 2 sites a member visited they got 1 visit to their own website, but it was abused by some members and then hacked so I closed the site down.


GOF.

Did you delete you membership GOF? Were you officially banned.

"okosh" was still a member when he last posted but he did say that Kathleen had taken the precaution of banning him from her forums. I wonder if you are still a member because you may still be able to vote in their POTW ballot. I wonder which one "okosh" has voted for this week. A few more newbies or spies from RS in Adland might make a few interesting waves over there.

You may not be banned from Jill's forum yet.

Originally Posted by grumpyoldfart

I was a member of adlandpro I did run an autosurf program that was reciprical for every 2 sites a member visited they got 1 visit to their own website, but it was abused by some members and then hacked so I closed the site down.

GOF.

I was a member of your free traffic exchange and I may have bought some banners or text ads. It was a great site because people were not paid to advertise. They bought ads from you if they had things which were worth selling. It worked. A lot of people were very disappointed that you closed it.

I am off for a cuppa and cat cuddle for a bit but I hope that you will help me with an article which I am writing about traffic exchanges. People are inclined to sneer about the idea of sellers selling to sellers. Sellers do sell to sellers in the right context. I traded antiques for a whille. Antique dealers find out fairly quickly, if they are better selling to the trade or to the the public. Most people know that if they go to an antique fair, the doors open to the public at about 9am but the dealers arrive at about 6am and buy from one another. Sellers sell to other sellers in the morning and only mugs trying to sell rubbish for an inflated price remain till the end of the day.

Some of the people who made a packet when traffic exchanges started are still there selling crap to the power of crap. I have named Adlandpro Traffic exchance and another one. The traffic exchange owners are getting together to form bigger consortiums and they all think they are King Pins in "The Industry"

As you were one of the few people who ran an early traffic exchange, your comments will be invaluable becuse a new generation does appear to be in the pipeline. Our friend Kathleeen Vanbeenkom has been knifed but she is still alive and kicking. Knives are out to slaughter the loosers and defenders are out with shields to defend their allies. There will be some casualties in this battle.

Here are a couple of links for you to peruse. I Think that RS members stand more chance of launching a new generation of traffic exchanges that sell real products and services in a well policed cyberspace environment than Vanbeenkom and Co. Think about it and I will try to get my Traffic Exchanges web page up this evening.

ClickTrackProfit

Timtech Versus Real Scummers.

GOF, just joining up with your site. I hope it does well and we can come up with more good ideas as P2P has suggested.

Originally Posted by scratchycat

GOF, just joining up with your site. I hope it does well and we can come up with more good ideas as P2P has suggested.

Hi Scratchy,

Thanks for that, but I have just discovered a problem with the site as I upgraded to a newer version yesterday and some features are no longer working, so I have taken the site offline until I can fix it so it could be sometime tomorrow before its back online.

Kind Regards
GOF.

Originally Posted by grumpyoldfart

Hi Scratchy,

Thanks for that, but I have just discovered a problem with the site as I upgraded to a newer version yesterday and some features are no longer working, so I have taken the site offline until I can fix it so it could be sometime tomorrow before its back online.

Kind Regards
GOF.

I'd be curious to know what you're having issues with.

I've had a test install up for a while now that I play with occasionally and just upgraded to 1.4 via softaculous. After doing so, it reminded me to log in to the admin area and update the plugins.

The admin area prompted me with messages like this:

The source code of 'Activity notifications' plugin was updated. Need to update plugin DB.

I had to update Newsfeed, Friends, Activity notifications, Forum, Events, Virtual Gifts, Blogs, Links, Photo, Groups, and Video.

Did you do this(or did it even prompt you to) and still run into issues?

Originally Posted by surfer

I'd be curious to know what you're having issues with.

I've had a test install up for a while now that I play with occasionally and just upgraded to 1.4 via softaculous. After doing so, it reminded me to log in to the admin area and update the plugins.

The admin area prompted me with messages like this:

I had to update Newsfeed, Friends, Activity notifications, Forum, Events, Virtual Gifts, Blogs, Links, Photo, Groups, and Video.

Did you do this(or did it even prompt you to) and still run into issues?

Hi surfer,

Thank you for your kind advice its very much appreciated, I have upgraded via cPanel/softaculous and then logged into the admin control panel and upgrade all the plugins and it did prompt me to upgrade each plugin.

I am having issues in admin I can't edit the bottom links or signup questions, I can add new but can't edit afterwards and the wysiwyg editor is none existant now just a text page to edit. I am going to delete the website from whm and install as a new account and then start again using the new 1.4 installation in softaculous because last time I uninstalled from softaculous and then installed again I had issues with the mysql database.

I will come back to you and let you know how I get on.

Kind Regards
GOF.

Originally Posted by grumpyoldfart

Hi surfer,

Thank you for your kind advice its very much appreciated, I have upgraded via cPanel/softaculous and then logged into the admin control panel and upgrade all the plugins and it did prompt me to upgrade each plugin.

I am having issues in admin I can't edit the bottom links or signup questions, I can add new but can't edit afterwards and the wysiwyg editor is none existant now just a text page to edit. I am going to delete the website from whm and install as a new account and then start again using the new 1.4 installation in softaculous because last time I uninstalled from softaculous and then installed again I had issues with the mysql database.

I will come back to you and let you know how I get on.

Kind Regards
GOF.

That's the kind of stuff that drives me nuts and is the main reason why I'm slow to change platforms.

Good thing it's a new site because it certainly wouldn't be practical to tear down and start over if you had a sizable user base.

FWIW, I think this was some sort of conflict with the Instant Chat plugin.

After you mentioned your specific issues, I went to Oxwall ® - PHP Social Networking Software | Community Script to see what I could find out.

I also noticed that I had the same problems as you and that you also could not drag and drop the questions to change the order. Nor could you click on the "Customize this page" link on the front end.

Somebody in the Oxwall forums mentioned can't move Quick Links widget on dashboard | Forum and stated that once they deactivated the plugins their problem was fixed.

I deactivated and reactivated all the plugins but our problem was still there.

I deactivated them all and did not reactivate and the problem was fixed. Of course, that leaves the site with zero functionality. :)

So then I started reactivating them one by one to see if one specific plugin was the culprit and eventually found that the problem only occurred when the Instant Chat plugin was activated.

Tried to uninstall and reinstall that plug, but it didn't fix the issue, so for now I'm leaving Instant Chat in a deactivated state.

Well, that's where I stand with my test site.

Still leaning towards phpFox and paid support. I am definitely not techie enough to do anything more than basic troubleshooting. A serious issue with any of this open source stuff and I'm dead in the bed.

Originally Posted by scratchycat

GOF, just joining up with your site. I hope it does well and we can come up with more good ideas as P2P has suggested.

Hi Scratchy,

First of all appologies for having to delete and re-install the website, I have sent you a PM via RealScam to let you know the site is now back online and that you need to re-register, I think I will now view any type of upgrade as a potential disaster.

Kind Regards
GOF.

GOF, you will see I have joined and don't you go giving up too soon, as P2P has pointed out. Some of us are just SLOW!!

Originally Posted by scratchycat

GOF, you will see I have joined and don't you go giving up too soon, as P2P has pointed out. Some of us are just SLOW!!

Or too busy swatting up on the big breaking news. I followed Dave Thornton's story on WLD and I thought he may have departed this mortal coil as I heard no news of him for such a long time. That poor man and the hell he has been through. He has just joined us.

Dave's Story

PS. Please pass this news on to "oldcoot." His sight and health is poor, so if I contact him and you do too, he may get his publicity machinery moving to give Dave a helping hand. When the old coot musters his force, he gets heard!

Another reason that members may not have liked the idea of your opening an autosurf, is that Fred Mann has just opened one for JustBeenPaid and that could put you under the microscope. We know that you ran a free autosurf and did not pay people rebates for watching ads but Eagle has made a post on another forum warning people about the folly of joining an autosurf and having one run here to advertise real products and services as opposed to paying money to people to watch ads for ponzi's and cons could give people reading MMG, TG or Adlandpro the idea that you were in the same league.

Eagle made the following comment on a RS thread about the notorious Fred Mann's new autosurf, which meansin Fred's last ditch attempt to con money from his dying JustBeenPaid.

Comment from Eagle about Fred Mann

"Let's see, the government took down CEP, 12DP, PhoenixSurf, and ASD; and Megalido, adventures4U, and several other autosurfs ran with the money. And what does Fred want to do? He wants to add an autosurf to JBP. Talk about painting a bulls-eye on yourself."

It would be a very inopportune time to have an autosurf owner here. That does not mean that thinking of how and where a new generation of traffic exchanges will be developed. As I stated in my web page mentioned in my sig files, there is a need for sellers to meet and sell to other sellers. Antique dealers run antique fairs to sell to other dealers (sellers) and the public. TEs make sense but for the moment it is a sector of cyberspace which is distintly the darker shad of grey. When the new generation come out things will change. I would like to see that sector of cyberspace cleaned up and I would be delited to see you try a prototype.

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

Another reason that members may not have liked the idea of your opening an autosurf, is that Fred Mann has just opened one for JustBeenPaid and that could put you under the microscope. We know that you ran a free autosurf and did not pay people rebates for watching ads but Eagle has made a post on another forum warning people about the folly of joining an autosurf and having one run here to advertise real products and services as opposed to paying money to people to watch ads for ponzi's and cons could give people reading MMG, TG or Adlandpro the idea that you were in the same league.

Eagle made the following comment on a RS thread about the notorious Fred Mann's new autosurf, which meansin Fred's last ditch attempt to con money from his dying JustBeenPaid.

Comment from Eagle about Fred Mann

"Let's see, the government took down CEP, 12DP, PhoenixSurf, and ASD; and Megalido, adventures4U, and several other autosurfs ran with the money. And what does Fred want to do? He wants to add an autosurf to JBP. Talk about painting a bulls-eye on yourself."

It would be a very inopportune time to have an autosurf owner here. That does not mean that thinking of how and where a new generation of traffic exchanges will be developed. As I stated in my web page mentioned in my sig files, there is a need for sellers to meet and sell to other sellers. Antique dealers run antique fairs to sell to other dealers (sellers) and the public. TEs make sense but for the moment it is a sector of cyberspace which is distintly the darker shad of grey. When the new generation come out things will change. I would like to see that sector of cyberspace cleaned up and I would be delited to see you try a prototype.

Hi P2P,

I will have another look in my scripts shed to see if I can find one that could be used as a traffic exchange, but I am not too hopeful as PHP has now been upgraded so a lot of my scripts don't work properly, if I find one that works ok I will put it online for you to test out.

Kind Regards
GOF.

Originally Posted by scratchycat

GOF, you will see I have joined and don't you go giving up too soon, as P2P has pointed out. Some of us are just SLOW!!

Hi Scratchy,

Thanks for the PM and for joining the site its very much appreciated, I hope that some RS members will follow your lead.

Kind Regards
GOF.

Originally Posted by grumpyoldfart

Hi Scratchy,

Thanks for the PM and for joining the site its very much appreciated, I hope that some RS members will follow your lead.

Kind Regards
GOF.

GOF use Facebook to notify all your friends. Not sure how you feel about Georgios P. but he might join. I can give a link on my wall also if that will help. Let me know.

Originally Posted by scratchycat

GOF use Facebook to notify all your friends. Not sure how you feel about Georgios P. but he might join. I can give a link on my wall also if that will help. Let me know.

Hi Scratchy,

I don't use facebook all that often, Georgios P is an ok guy but he tends to try and take over anything he joins so I am not too bothered if he joins or not, but a link on your wall would be fine.

Thanks
GOF.

I have joined your community and commented on the business ideas thread. I have invited a local very talented interior designer from Twickenham to join the community and I hope that she accepts the invitation.

Would "Do Not Mess with Soapboxmum" stickers sell in Twickenham? I think they would sell for £2 a sticker at International rugby matches.

If you, Sara or SBM can produce a design that appeals, we could have a product and a market. If Angela could earn a bit of commission, she may be prepared to sell them in her shop at Twickenham.

Don't be an impatient old fart GOF.

You're going to have to grow your community just like you grow any other site out there. Marketing, SEO, continuous TLC, content creation, etc.

RS is not the ideal community from which to draw users. At least, the core membership isn't. I could be wrong, but I don't think most of the leaders and admin here will be all that interested in joining a business/marketing community such as yours.

It's nothing that you should take personally.

You might pull some visitors from here that are researching various companies, but those odds are also small since you aren't a highly active/visible member here in the scam discussion threads.

What is the goal/purpose of your community?

Originally Posted by surfer

Don't be an impatient old fart GOF.

You're going to have to grow your community just like you grow any other site out there. Marketing, SEO, continuous TLC, content creation, etc.

RS is not the ideal community from which to draw users. At least, the core membership isn't. I could be wrong, but I don't think most of the leaders and admin here will be all that interested in joining a business/marketing community such as yours.

It's nothing that you should take personally.

You might pull some visitors from here that are researching various companies, but those odds are also small since you aren't a highly active/visible member here in the scam discussion threads.

What is the goal/purpose of your community?

I agree with a lot of points here "surfer." We have to grow our communities. I have groyn mine in my own back yard because most of my marketing is done off line. GOF has followers who use his web hosting services. His and my communities are very different but my followers are very reluctant to buy or sell online because they are aware of the huge percentage of scams with online network marketing.

I tell my people that they can sell or buy products and services online from traders who have a presence in RS. As our main objective here is to bring down scammers and scams we need to be active in scam disscussion threads.

I have said it time and time again. If you buy from a trader on a large station in London you are unlikely to be ripped off as the stations are well policed. If you buy or sell from a trader with a presence on RS, you are also unlikely to be ripped off. People whom I plan to introduce to RS will be experienced local trades people who will not swallow "Internet Marketing." They will be people who know their own markets and come here to learn to expand them.

Originally Posted by surfer

Don't be an impatient old fart GOF.

You're going to have to grow your community just like you grow any other site out there. Marketing, SEO, continuous TLC, content creation, etc.

RS is not the ideal community from which to draw users. At least, the core membership isn't. I could be wrong, but I don't think most of the leaders and admin here will be all that interested in joining a business/marketing community such as yours.

It's nothing that you should take personally.

You might pull some visitors from here that are researching various companies, but those odds are also small since you aren't a highly active/visible member here in the scam discussion threads.

What is the goal/purpose of your community?

Hi Surfer,

Thanks for your helpful comments and I do understand that RS is probably not the best way to recruit members for my website, but I did have a good response form RS members to my original exadlanders forum.

I am not very active here at RS because I am not a scam buster just a scam watcher as I don't want to get involved in anything I may regret later.

The main goal/purpose of my community is to provide a website that is useful to members and is free from bullies and trolls.

I have also added to the site by including a Business Listing Directory and comes with the features below:

Favorites management	Secure payment gateway integration
Support for contact list, block list	Full Internal Messaging system
Preconfigured for paypal, and offline payments	WYSIWYG editor for ad posting
Direct selling through paypal for sellers	Seller Stores
Support for featured, highlights and gallery featured	Rotation Banner Ads System

If you have time please check it out at MyBuddy.us/BusinessDirectory

Kind Regards
GOF.

We love all our members. I am just too swamped to get involved anywhere else at the moment. Don Holbrook is suing half the planet including me and definitely has my full attention because of it.

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