Thread: Scam.com gone forever?

Originally Posted by Sojustask

Well, apparently ALL of you still do care very much. You've made it the topic of conversation, speculation and debate ever since
Len was made an Admin.

If anyone is being the butt of countless bad jokes, I would think it would be those who continue to talk about the people they say that they don't care about.

Kind of ironic, isn't it.

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That would depend on which definition of the word "irony" you use.

If, for example, you used THIS definition: "Irony: sarcasm: witty language used to convey insults or scorn" then yes, the word would describe how many/most of the posters here feel when they enter into any discussion about the George/Zachary/SJA/Clements gang.

If, on the other hand, this definition was used: "ironic - dry: humorously sarcastic or mocking;' or THIS one: "ironic - Both coincidental and contradictory in a humorous or poignant and extremely improbable way" then the words "sarcastic" "mocking" "contradictory" "mocking" and "improbable" would probably be considered MORE than appropriate by the posters here.

Given the immediate past history of the forum in question, any future observer would be quite entitled to ask whether any pronouncement from ANY of the "team" is factual or designed to protect the "management" or has any other ulterior motive attached.

e.g. using the current criteria, the proven AdSurf Daily and CEP ponzi frauds would not have been exposed on Scam.com and the Oceanside/Broker Jones fraud thread will forever remain tainted by the knowledge the thread has been doctored.

FYI, there is a vast difference, "sweetheart" between "caring" about what "George/Zachary/sja/Clements" says and taking a great deal of delight pointing out the deceit, hypocrisy, deception and downright lies which are passed off by said group.

One doesn't need to "care" in the slightest about the members of the "Flat Earth Society" or the purveyors of the "Amega Wand" to have many fun filled hours of entertainment discussing their latest stupidity, and so it is with what was "Scam.com"

Originally Posted by Sojustask

Gee, thanks a bunch, Doc. I wouldn't call Northfield Acupuncture clinic though, I haven't worked there in over a year, nor am I a patient there any longer, my health problems were resolved. You are liable to be disappointed if you call sweetheart.

I know what excuse that George gave to Len about why it was down for a brief time, but I take it with a grain of salt. I don't care why it was down, the same thing happened before and it was down a hell of a lot longer. It's back up and running and I suspect many who left will probably go back. And they will probably come here as well.

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What excuse did George give to Len? The site was hacked? It's sure not functioning normally right now, on the search engines.

Thank you littleroundman for reminding me why I need to configure the "add to reputation" system around here. You got a +1 waiting for you the moment that I do.

So if one was to start a new thread about a certain scam/MLM in the rants section.

It would be gloves off.

Otherwise I guess it's five minutes in the penalty box.

I just posted my resignation on scam.com.
Feel better already! (sigh)

Originally Posted by Seriously?

Seems to be different for everyone.

Well, it seems that rules are different for some people than they are for others over there. I'm sure several posters here can provide documentation. Hmmm. Actually, I think several already have. Would you like it posted again?

The comment was shot at me that I, personally, would bring down the "Wrath of God" on anyone that put the link IN THEIR SIGNATURE LINE. I've not been known to do that, possibly because if it was in the signature line it wasn't a violation of the rules that are posted on the forum. That particular rule I came up with to keep the MLM people from just advertising their particular programs and not participating in the threads. Now, if you can actually post something that shows that I personally did otherwise, go for it. Otherwise, the prior post was misdirected and unfair.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

FYI, there is a vast difference, "sweetheart" between "caring" about what "George/Zachary/sja/Clements" says and taking a great deal of delight pointing out the deceit, hypocrisy, deception and downright lies which are passed off by said group.

Yes, sweetie there is. I am aware of that. And what you point out and show is your obsessive and compulsive nature towards all things negative and unproductive. I wouldn't be surprised if that unproductive, gossipy side of your personalities didn't bleed over into your personal lives as well.


Which is why most of you doing it were rather pathetic. Weeks of the same mantra and complaints to adnauseam? No wonder you couldn't prove the scams as scams without having hundreds of pages to the threads. You simply are unable to remain focused long enough to do so. Adult ADD perhaps?

Originally Posted by Live&Learn

What excuse did George give to Len? The site was hacked? It's sure not functioning normally right now, on the search engines.

Ya, something like that. Denial of Service attack. Those things are legit but I wouldn't know if it actually applied to scam.com's site. Lastnight, neither IE or Firefox could find any site for awhile. Nothing would pull up. I checked with tech support for my ISP and it wasn't something with my service. The Conspiracy theorists would have had a great time coming up with some kind of world wide government plot to shut down the Internet for the average man if given long enough to think about it. LOL.

Originally Posted by GlimDropper

I know there's a lot of bad blood between some of us and Sojustask, she knew it when she came here and I'm sure she isn't surprised by how she was greeted.

No, I am not surprised, nor am I offended. Some people have only tunnel vision, can't see the bigger picture nor imagine that any decision might have been made that wasn't a direct insult to them. It's kind of selfish and self centered, but it's human nature.

She isn't posting there? Start a thread there, post a link to your new thread in this one and see if she'll show up. If she doesn't you have another thing to complain about her. But outside the rant forum she get's the same treatment the rules give everyone. I'd be quite pleased if I'm making myself clear.

Won't do them any good. I learned a long time ago that if you get in pissing matches with idiots that you have to go down to their level to do so and once you do that, they beat you with their greater experience.

So, I won't be engaging in any "pissing matches" on your site. But, maybe they can work out their anger issues on that forum anyway.

:)

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I have an excellent idea about what you can do when it comes to Lady Mod.

It's this:

Sojustask
Junior Member

This message is hidden because Sojustask is on your ignore list.

I've never put anybody on ignore before, even over at scam.com. I started to read some of her comments but decided to stop doing it. I don't need to be annoyed by her. She acts the same no matter where she goes. So on "ignore" she went.

It's kind of funny though .... when I saw her name on this forum, my first thought was of that green witch in The Wizard of Oz. Honestly, that image suddenly popped in my head. LOL.

Originally Posted by Sojustask

So, I won't be engaging in any "pissing matches" on your site. But, maybe they can work out their anger issues on that forum anyway.

:)

Talking about anger issues, who was it that said:

Jesus, what a bunch of pricks. I came in here respectfully asking for help, and tried to answer what ever concerns you all had. ..

You can have your little mud puddle back. I've got better things, and better people, to deal with.

Or on the Yahoo! board:

Okay you arrogant ass, you’ve broken me! Now I’m pissed. Congratulations!

How dare you even suggest that I don’t answer questions that are asked of me. I JUST SPENT SIX GDF HOURS ON THIS BOARD ANSWERING YOUR PETTY, NIT-PICKY, PETHITIC, EVASIVE, COWARDLY QUESTIONS! Oh, I’m sure there’s your favorite somewhere that I’ve missed today. SO SORRY I DID’T SPENT 7 HOURS!

Among many other examples?

Originally Posted by Doc Bunkum

Talking about anger issues, who was it that said:



Or on the Yahoo! board:



Among many other examples?

I don't know, who? I don't go to Yahoo boards and I don't call people pricks. Are we talking about Len?

Lady Mod @ scam.com

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Originally Posted by Sojustask

I don't know, who? I don't go to Yahoo boards and I don't call people pricks. Are we talking about Len?

Lady Mod @ scam.com

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Well, yes we are. Tracy Coenen documented Lenny's little meltdown on Yahoo! here:

Usana defender Len Clements

As for the "pricks" tirade, that was for the enjoyment of the folks over on JREF.

While we certainly enjoy your input on this new forum, Stephanie, (at least I do) - please continue to be a regular contributor - I have to ask, do you really think it's safe to leave Lenny alone, unsupervised, on scam.com?

Oh, and I'm curious, but why the hell do you always put a period at the end of everyone of your posts?

Originally Posted by Sojustask

The comment was shot at me that I, personally, would bring down the "Wrath of God" on anyone that put the link IN THEIR SIGNATURE LINE. I've not been known to do that, possibly because if it was in the signature line it wasn't a violation of the rules that are posted on the forum. That particular rule I came up with to keep the MLM people from just advertising their particular programs and not participating in the threads. Now, if you can actually post something that shows that I personally did otherwise, go for it. Otherwise, the prior post was misdirected and unfair.

I'd like to point out a couple things. First, as mod, supermod, admin, owner, etc, YOU represent the board. That goes for Lenny, Zachary and whatever mods are left. Secondly, as mod, supermod, admin, owner, etc, when you perform board functions, the membership does not necessarily know who did it. That is a major bone of contention (as you well know) over the banning of certain someones.

The membership does not always separate sojustask from the title supermod.

Essentially, you need to think about responses in terms of the board as opposed to personally. What you do reflects on the board. Something I think some people forget over there. As they say in the construction biz, measure twice, cut once.

So if you took that personally, I apologise. But you have made it rather difficult to know when you are taking your mod duties beyond the scope of your job on the board, since there have been times that what the rules say and what sojustask says are two different things. Your Majesty.

I don't know, who? I don't go to Yahoo boards and I don't call people pricks. Are we talking about Len?

Being disingenuous is not flattering.

We interrupt this thread to post some information:

Over at the JREF forums (viewable to members only, I think), all suspensions and bans are listed by the moderator who performed the action, as well as the reason(s).

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

Originally Posted by Emet

We interrupt this thread to post some information:

Over at the JREF forums (viewable to members only, I think), all suspensions and bans are listed by the moderator who performed the action, as well as the reason(s).

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

The moderator who performed the action is not always the moderator that ordered the action. Reason? Don't need no [I refuse to use profanity] reason!

Originally Posted by Doc Bunkum

Well, yes we are. Tracy Coenen documented Lenny's little meltdown on Yahoo! here:

Usana defender Len Clements

As for the "pricks" tirade, that was for the enjoyment of the folks over on JREF.

While we certainly enjoy your input on this new forum, Stephanie, (at least I do) - please continue to be a regular contributor - I have to ask, do you really think it's safe to leave Lenny alone, unsupervised, on scam.com?

Can you not pull up two browsers at the same time? I usually have several open and multi-task. Besides, I don't think he's realized the site is back up yet. He'll figure it out eventually.

Oh, and I'm curious, but why the hell do you always put a period at the end of everyone of your posts?

Oh Hell! I did do that didn't I? Force of habit, I guess. In order for people to see the posts on scam without those stupid commercials being right on top of them I always put a period a few rows away from the post.

Lady Mod @ scam.com

Originally Posted by Seriously?

I'd like to point out a couple things. First, as mod, supermod, admin, owner, etc, YOU represent the board. That goes for Lenny, Zachary and whatever mods are left. Secondly, as mod, supermod, admin, owner, etc, when you perform board functions, the membership does not necessarily know who did it. That is a major bone of contention (as you well know) over the banning of certain someones.

The membership does not always separate sojustask from the title supermod.

Essentially, you need to think about responses in terms of the board as opposed to personally. What you do reflects on the board. Something I think some people forget over there. As they say in the construction biz, measure twice, cut once.

So if you took that personally, I apologise. But you have made it rather difficult to know when you are taking your mod duties beyond the scope of your job on the board, since there have been times that what the rules say and what sojustask says are two different things. Your Majesty.

Hmmm, I'll have to work on that, then.

Being disingenuous is not flattering.

I wasn't. I suspected who he was talking about, but I wasn't positive about it. It was a candid question.

Originally Posted by Sojustask

Hmmm, I'll have to work on that, then.




I wasn't. I suspected who he was talking about, but I wasn't positive about it. It was a candid question.

LM,

Please tell the person you suspected that I got another virus from scam.com tonight. Nice work Lenny.

Originally Posted by Sojustask

Ya, something like that. Denial of Service attack. Those things are legit but I wouldn't know if it actually applied to scam.com's site. Lastnight, neither IE or Firefox could find any site for awhile. Nothing would pull up. I checked with tech support for my ISP and it wasn't something with my service. The Conspiracy theorists would have had a great time coming up with some kind of world wide government plot to shut down the Internet for the average man if given long enough to think about it. LOL.

It doesn't seem like a DoS attack, to me. I see you don't really trust George's explanation either.

http://www.realscam.com/f22/gee-than...h-lady-mod-80/

Scam.com was hit by a Denial of Service attack. Since another website (Business For Home.org) was hit just a couple weeks ago for their negative comments about a scam called TVI Express, and a very negative thread exists on Scam.com about this same scam, and both DOS attacks were initiated from East Asia, it is likely they are related.

But is is interesting that when a website that is designed to expose scams gets shut down by scammers, you all celebrate and root for the cyber-terrorists!

I also just want to point out one more thing... after I became an admin at Scam.com I began to enforce one, and only one, rule - no more completely baseless personal attacks made my someone just because it makes them feel good. That's it! That's the ONLY thing that has changed at Scam.com. And it is very interesting to see who has chosen not to participate under this restriction.

Someone in another thread commented that Scam.com was like a boil that finally came to a head and popped. I completely agree with the analogy. And it appears all the puss came here.

Len

Len, this is not scam.com. Multiple identical posts are not allowed. Now off with your furry head.

Originally Posted by Live&Learn

LM,

Please tell the person you suspected that I got another virus from scam.com tonight. Nice work Lenny.

I don't see how you could be the only person on the Internet getting a virus from the site. What virus protection are you running?

Lady Mod @ scam.com

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Originally Posted by MWave

Scam.com was hit by a Denial of Service attack. Since another website (Business For Home.org) was hit just a couple weeks ago for their negative comments about a scam called TVI Express, and a very negative thread exists on Scam.com about this same scam, and both DOS attacks were initiated from East Asia, it is likely they are related.

But is is interesting that when a website that is designed to expose scams gets shut down by scammers, you all celebrate and root for the cyber-terrorists!

I also just want to point out one more thing... after I became an admin at Scam.com I began to enforce one, and only one, rule - no more completely baseless personal attacks made my someone just because it makes them feel good. That's it! That's the ONLY thing that has changed at Scam.com. And it is very interesting to see who has chosen not to participate under this restriction.

Someone in another thread commented that Scam.com was like a boil that finally came to a head and popped. I completely agree with the analogy. And it appears all the puss came here.

Len

Liar. You said this today, and all I was trying to do was point out your double standard.

Keep in mind, though, that little off-topic tattle-tail posts like yours will be the first to go.

And my god... how many times have you threatened to ban me for violating rule 8 because you think I'm a troll? Even though applying your definition of what a "troll" is would make YOU a troll as well.

And then there's the lovely message that you left when you banned Doc... I believe it was something about him being an anti-MLM zealot. That's not really violating the one rule you claim to be enforcing. I could go on and on, but everyone here already knows you're a liar.