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    Re: Any one have historical stuff on Pigeon King International?

    This is the nonsense going on here in Canada: A simple but vicious system that has developed. Those who speak out about these frauds, like the Oakville mother and others who have contacted me are arrested on false charges of threatening and/or assault where there exists no physical evidence only the word of the fraud artists, there minions and police willing to lie, and/or coerced or frightened individuals.

    Police Detachment June 21st 2010.
    “ … he grabbed [K] wrist like that (gestures) and pulled her back.”

    Court January 10, 2012 P-59 Same Witness In Chief – “…he went and grabbed my friend's wrist and she went to pull away. And he did grab her wrist but I'm not sure how hard or where on her wrist.”

    Alleged Victim January 10th 2012 – Examination in Chief

    A. He reached out for my wrist...

    THE COURT: Yeah.

    A. …he tried to grab my wrist and before he -- and I pulled my wrist away so that he couldn't grab it.

    THE ...COURT: So he didn't grab it?

    A. He touched my wrist...

    THE COURT: Oh, he touched -- okay.

    Cross-Examination by Court Imposed Lawyer

    Q. All right. Do you remember when I asked you if you told the -- the principal or vice principal that you did know him?

    A. I recall that.

    Q. All right.

    A. But we did not know him. He said that we knew him.

    Q. All right. If I was -- I'm just going to read you what's here and you can tell me if you agree with it, "And he looked at us so we -- so we did as soon as we came around, we said that we didn't know him and he wasn't" -- so would -- would you agree that it says, "And he looked at us so we said we did." Would you agree that that's written there?

    A. I agree that it's written there.

    Q. All right. Do you -- do you think there's a problem with how this was transcribed?

    A. I remember that he was bent over, putting the photos back in his bag and the lady said do you know him, he said yes as he was facing her. We mouthed that we didn't and that we didn't know him and she said sir, can I talk to you and then told us to run.

    Q. But I think you pretty much have to agree with me, in the statement you said that you did know him.

    A. In the statement it does say that.

    Q. All right. But you're saying something different here now?

    Alleged Victim: RE-EXAMINATION BY MS. STEVENSON:

    Q. Ms. [L], can I just ask you to go back to that page four of your transcript there?

    A. Yes.

    Q. And I'm just going to read you a portion from the transcript and then ask you a question about that. So this is in that second paragraph, the top of page four. "And then, when there -- as the vice principal from O.T. drove up in the car and was looking at us and said, 'Do you know this man?' and he said that we did and he looked at us so we said we did but as soon as we come around, we said that we didn't know him and like, he wasn't supposed to be there." So first of all, you see that in the transcript, is that how you remember it today?

    A. Today I remembered only him saying that we know him and us mouthing that we didn't.

    Q. Okay.

    A. That's what I remember today.

    X X X X X X X X

    Statements of the student witness to police…

    A. – Umm, the vice principal of OT came and said “Girls do you know who you’re talking too?” and the man said “Yes they do” and we were like “No, no we don’t” (shakes hands). And the lady said “Can I talk to you sir? And pulled him and we ran.

    Vice principal under my cross-examination:

    A… and I didn't know anything about you until I got out of the car after the two girls...left…

    Q. …But I’m asking specifically did you hear them say, first of all, in response to a question that you don’t remember was asked which is, “Do you know this man?” That she said yes they do, that they knew me.

    A. I do not recall that, no.

    Q. Right. And the other thing was and I think that’s pretty clear, but at no time did you physically grab the accused arm or pull the accused away in any manner from these students while they ran away?

    A. I was in my car, sir.

    Earlier Cross examination of student witness…. Motive for the Lies.

    Q. So, when the vice principal drove up, what did you do?

    A. Well she asked him if he knew us and he said yes, and we said no. And she said to the man, "Come here. Sir, can I talk to you?" And me and “K” ran.

    Q. All right. And where did you run to?

    A. We ran to my house.

    Q. All right. Did you call the police?

    A. No.

    Q. Why not?

    A. I didn't want to tell my mom.

    Q. That's why you didn't call the police right away?

    A. Yeah, I was too scared to tell my mom.

    Q. And -- and why would you be too scared to tell your mom that?

    A. Because I didn't know if she'd get mad at me for being there with a stranger.
    * * * * *
    So, the alleged assault, “forcing” them to remain at the scene would be a convenient excuse attempting to justify why they would be talking to a stranger. Again, it should be obvious to anyone, particularly a judge that they fabricated this story insisting that they were first physically restrained then psychologically too frightened to leave. They were not afraid of me at the school. They feared admonishment from their parents and possibly the police when it later occurred to them they had, without thinking been talking to a stranger. Simple! And that was the theory I propose to the section 486 C.C.C. court imposed lawyer: It turned out to be accurate as borne out by the above testimony.

    For a number of years I have been warning students at Ontario universities, colleges, high schools and on the street, of harm of pyramid schemes that now recruit even unwitting high school students by exerting my right of freedom of speech and freedom of peaceful assembly. Most times I am harassed in any number of ways by police and on two other occasions falsely arrested. Convicted in one with perjured evidence, charges in the other dropped when an unbiased the judge refused to go along with the nonsense of the police.

    Before attending at the Oakville Trafalgar High School I informed the Halton police I would be there. Police assured me that there was no problem as long as I did not trespass on school property or interfere with school activities and recommended I call and leave a message with the school liaison officer; which I did. [calls recorded]

    I know from previous experience that the Halton Regional Police are not enamored with the content of my pamphlets and do not hesitate to use every opportunity to force me to their mental facilities to have willing psychiatrists endorse the police mantra that I am “paranoid,” “delusional,” “out of touch with reality” and that these frauds I expose and those of position behind them, “only exist in a delusional mind.” But this time police seemed to have no intention of harassing me as was my past experiences.

    I think it evident the system is now using these children who were obviously afraid of being admonished by their parents and of course more so when the police became involved, to once again convict this whistleblower with false, tainted and perjured evidence. It truly is bizarre.

    dave
    Last edited by CrimeBustersNow; 10-22-2012 at 12:20 PM.

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    Re: Any one have historical stuff on Pigeon King International?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrimeBustersNow View Post
    This is the nonsense going on here in Canada: A simple but vicious system that has developed. Those who speak out about these frauds, like the Oakville mother and others who have contacted me are arrested on false charges of threatening and/or assault where there exists no physical evidence only the word of the fraud artists, there minions and police willing to lie, and/or coerced or frightened individuals.

    Dave.

    What is tolerated in Canada is well known to most RealScam members. Bogdon Fiedur of Adlandpro which is known to RS members as Scamlandpro, has got away with running an advertising board which is nothing but hard porn and pernicious scams. None of the Canadian Police or law enforcement agencies have done anything to stop this man and no newspapers seem interested in closing the filthy sewer down.

    Some paper or news agency needs to get onto this as it confirms you story about the extent of the cover ups for criminal enterprises in Canada.

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    Re: Any one have historical stuff on Pigeon King International?

    Quote Originally Posted by path2prosperity View Post
    Dave.

    What is tolerated in Canada is well known to most RealScam members. Bogdon Fiedur of Adlandpro which is known to RS members as Scamlandpro, has got away with running an advertising board which is nothing but hard porn and pernicious scams. None of the Canadian Police or law enforcement agencies have done anything to stop this man and no newspapers seem interested in closing the filthy sewer down.

    Some paper or news agency needs to get onto this as it confirms you story about the extent of the cover ups for criminal enterprises in Canada.
    I wish you could get a British media to do a story on these Canadians frauds that come into GB and other countries ripping off your citizens due to the fact Canada does virtually nothing to prevent these frauds. The classic example.... TTI was promptly shut down by the DTI in England when we informed Interpol, Scotland Yard, Manchester and London police in 2005. These fraudsters were not arrested in Canada until January 2011, despite the action in the UK and the broadcast on Canada's CBC Marketplace in 2009. Since the arrests the CBC refuses to tell the public that police, politicians, government personnel, lawyers, accountants, business analysts etc, etc, were behind this massive fraud. "Conspiracy of Silence"????

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