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Originally Posted by laidback
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If he gets out.Quote:
Originally Posted by laidback
Booo....Hiss....We want a refund......He said he'd fight this to the last breath....
What am I gonna do with all this popcorn now??.....
Save it for Freddie's trial?Quote:
Originally Posted by okosh
From what i gather, he did as Mr Cowden did, he left the DOJ for private practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by laidback
In a bond revocation hearing today before Judge Collyer, Andy was remanded to jail awaiting his sentencing hearing on August 29. She thought he was a danger to society. No indication where Andy is incarcerated at this time.
Three cheers for that and three more cheers for the news broken by Patrick today. Bo Beckman, Pat Kiley and another given long sentences.Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleOne
Trevor Cook Associates Also Sentenced Today.
If I had had a bottle in the flat, I would have opened it and had a private clebration. Thanks for the great news Eagle.
Thanks for the news. HE IS a danger to society!!! He wants your money for his own!!Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleOne
Andy Bowdoin's Booking photo
Attachment 1424
He looks a little green, do you think he might have visited the Mountain too many times?? (as in Scamlandpro's Jill Bachman forum)
It's hard to tell by where the photo is cropped but I wonder if he's wearing his Presidential Medal of Honor, or is it just a soap on a rope?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wizzard7
There's a new DOJ contact number for people who have not gotten any response from Rust Consulting about remission claims.
Contact Toni Donato at 202-252-7711
She is just taking down info and amount of investment. She cannot tell you if and when you will get any money. The hope is that Judge Collyer will order another round of remissions when Andy Bowdoin is sentenced, late August.
Here's an email floating around, seems to be from Sara Mattoon, known Andy supporter. It has some interesting things in it, here goes:
Hi Everyone-
A lot has happened. There's a lot to share, including another opportunity to apply to get your ASD money back from the government.
But First: Please pray for Andy and his family. I talk to Andy's wife, Faye, regularly and Andy told her that being in the DC jail is "literally like being in hell." He doesn't deserve this and your prayers are really needed for his situation to change for the better. The next hearing is August 29 when he will be sentenced.
Second: Andy's lawyer is requesting letters from ASD Members to use to establish Andy's positive character traits. Please use the salutation: To Whom It May Concern.
If we flood the judge with these letters at Andy's hearing, it could make a huge difference to the outcome of his sentencing. Send your letter to his lawyer as soon as possible so he can have it in time for the hearing: Charles A Murray Attorney, Inc- 27911 Crown Lake Blvd # 226- Bonita Springs, FL 34135 .
Third: Your letters of hope and caring sent to Andy in jail will lift his spirits and lighten his burden. This address should be good until the hearing Faye says is on August 29. He gets his mail on Tuesdays and Saturdays so you might want to time it for those delivery days. Remember that they read his mail so be careful what you say in them.
Correction Treatment Facility
1901 East St. SE
Med-96 Inmate 335084
Washington DC 20003
Note: I have not forgotten Andy's plight and there is still an out-of-the-box legal path to help him that I'm continuing to explore.
Fourth: This is from Dwight Schweitzer who filed the lawsuit against the government regarding the illegal raid on ASD:
"Well we have been dealt a setback today...the judge here agreed with the government to transfer us to the District Court in Washington DC... The same judge who railroaded Andy. I will make a motion for her to recuse herself and if she will not (and she will not) I will take an appeal."
Fifth: ASD Member Joe Shoop did not give up regarding getting his ASD money back from the government and has been working tirelessly for several months to arrange another opportunity for ASD Members to apply to get their money back. He not only succeeded but has also volunteered to facilitate this. We are very grateful to Joe for his persistence and his efforts. If you want to apply to get your funds back from the government, please look at the email to follow. Note: To receive your funds back, you will need to provide proof of your ASD purchases by including copies of money orders, etc. with your application.
Many people did not apply earlier because the application essentially stated that their "investment" in ASD was a ponzie scheme, rather than a purchase of advertising, and we all know that isn't true. However, now that there will be no trial, due to the fact that Andy accepted a plea bargain instead, the game has changed and the concern about how those statements in the applications would affect the trial are no longer valid. Having said that, if the application requires you to make the same statements, I am still recommending that you add a separate notarized page to your application labeled "Clarification Addendum" stating something to the effect that you did not make an investment in AdSurfDaily; you purchased advertising, and that this application represents your request to have your advertising money returned.
Please don't request a remission from the government if you made a profit in your AdSurfDaily business.
It is very important that you do not post any of my ASD updates (or anyone else's ASD updates) on a public chat, forum, blog or website.
I hope this has been helpful.
Blessings,
Sara
Of course, I am being bad by posting this on a forum, how dare I???
I believe he's been taking lessons from Bob Guenther and legal advice from Larry Friedman on how best to ripo.........err.........facilitate getting peoples' money...........umm, that would be "getting peoples' money back to them"Quote:
Originally Posted by Sara Mattoon
And all they had to do was fill out the proper form and would have had it already.....Quote:
Originally Posted by littleroundman
LOL, if they had listened to REAL advice, instead of the pimp squad....!Quote:
Originally Posted by Whip
"It's a trap, I tell you!!!"
Wizzie, I'm shocked. I am really truly shocked. How could you? Now get right back into the kitchen and start baking Andy some of those brownies to cheer him up (I'm sorry he is having such a hellish time. Didn't they warn him at the Employment Office that a job as a money magnet was a high risk occupation.?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Wizzard7
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...,r:0,s:0,i:142Quote:
Originally Posted by Wizzard7
The Government has filed a Memorandum in Aid of Sentencing, it comprises around 110 pages of exhibits and recommendations. The exhibits begin with the Alabama fraud(s) guilty pleas and statements of offense. It also has a document in which Andy admits that he and Gary Talbert started AVG months after the seizure of ASD and that he (Andy) was to get two thirds of the profits.
In addition, it has a statement from an attorney who advised James C. Hill (aka J.C.) on how to operate legally, something he did not listen to very well.
I have posted the main document and one exhibit on the Files website. The other documents will follow soon.
Dear Andy,Quote:
Third: Your letters of hope and caring sent to Andy in jail will lift his spirits and lighten his burden. This address should be good until the hearing Faye says is on August 29. He gets his mail on Tuesdays and Saturdays so you might want to time it for those delivery days. Remember that they read his mail so be careful what you say in them.
Correction Treatment Facility
1901 East St. SE
Med-96 Inmate 335084
Washington DC 20003
Note: I have not forgotten Andy's plight and there is still an out-of-the-box legal path to help him that I'm continuing to explore.
Fourth: This is from Dwight Schweitzer who filed the lawsuit against the government regarding the illegal raid on ASD:
"Well we have been dealt a setback today...the judge here agreed with the government to transfer us to the District Court in Washington DC... The same judge who railroaded Andy. I will make a motion for her to recuse herself and if she will not (and she will not) I will take an appeal."
Even if you are guilty as you have stated it is because that judge railroaded you into a confession I just know it! We are going to appeal again, again, again. What age are you now? Well we hope to get you out before you die as you are so neglected and receive such bad treatment behind bars. You have our sympathy even if you did take our money and buy estates, yatchs, and fill up off shore accounts with it. We are here for you now and forever. We are still trying to get our money back but the big bad government is taking sooooo long. By the way, Andy, how are you feeling after eating those brownies we baked for you??
We feel soooo sorry for you and just wish you had not spent our money on your own luxury, we could have used it to pay our bills and buy groceries.
Have a good day, we have your back.
Your adoring and admiring "been had" fan,
ASD affiliate
(well after all, had I been taken, he would be receiving a lots worse letter from me!!!)
The fact that Andy is finding life in jail to be the nearest thing to hell tells us that he is unable to convince his fellow cons that he has a stach of loot. If they thought he was worth anything or could buy him favours, his life in any jail could be more comfortable.
Just ran across this WARNING back in August 2008 from a member in Scamland that he was notified to stop promoting ASD by Admins - now who were those?
A WARNING FROM PHILOXENIA-ASD AdSurfDaily Admin seized by US Attorney General | View Thread | AdlandPro Community
I wonder how much that lady lost in the deal and how her sponsor stays low in all of this. Well, it seems she did not!Quote:
I do not believe that Andy Bowden is a crook, or anything that is said about him. I do know how the government is in making charges. I have been through this so many times, and it is always the SEC (U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission) thinks they always right. But you never seen any of the money. All are riped off.
So Andy gave us the message to wait until tomorrow 8-8-08 and he will give an up date. They will not allow him to say much at all. Andy has 4 top lawyers on the case with one on standby.
So lets keep the faith and pray for Andy, and our program of ASD. I think Andy wants to help as many people as possible. He has always been up front with us all. I will not believe that article in that paper.
Myrna
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Well, I must be here to upset the apple cart! LOL
ASD has been one of the best companies I have ever seen on the Internet, and I have been a member since 2006. Aside from a monumental software delay in early 2007, ASD has paid everytime on time without fail.
I have watched people who have never been successful at any Internet business absolutely excel in this business. And what is so ironical is the business model........if you don't show up for work, you don't get paid! I absolutely LOVE it....it not only helps people pay their bills, but it also teaches them responsibility.
What I think you may find quite interesting is that our wonderful government just decided it was time to freeze some funds - about 53 million worth! Now...there is no money and people are not being paid and it becomes a scam?????
What is even more interesting is this.........the official document states that the confiscation of real property and bank accounts falls under the catagory of MARITIME and ADMIRALTY LAW.
Yes, there are still people in America who think our constitution still exists and the government is above stealing money. What a sad state of affairs. LOL
So, there you have it! ASD is a gem! I invite everyone to say prayers for it's return.
Cheers, Jill
Hello Myrna!
Lets hope that the authorities came in right time! This kind o programs are ruining people. Many or our friends lost lots of money in similar programs.
I am happy that I did not upgrad. I was pressed very much to upgrade or to change sponsor to come in a better team. It is of no value to say who my friends were and I do not blame them, but I can say this: "when hearing about a cherry tree ful of cherries take a small basket".
I hope this will have a good end for my friends.
As for the Admin. I believe the authorities had a reason to act as they did.
Your friend
Geo
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Hello Jill!
Thank you for coming in and many thanks to your comment! It is good to have a positive comment for ASD too and that will calm down our friends who are in ASD.
It is awful when governments are involved in our business, the stock market, etc . I hope this will have a happy end for the members.
The authorities can make you up but they can aslo set you down. In 1999 our government gave directions to invest on stock market. It was said direct from the mouth of our Prime Minister. The whole country followed his recommendation. In few months the stock market collapsed and 90% lost a fortune and their properties changed owners.
Power is a dangerous tool and when distrustful people have that position many bad things happen.
I wish the best for my friends and all those who are involved.
Your friend
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HOW TRUE, HOW TRUE and I am glad my Greek friend was smart enough not to invest in this loser. I am sure he knows who did though...
New documents in the Bowdoin Criminal case!!
The government has entered a Motion for remissions!!!!! And Andy and his lawyer object to the sentencing recommendations.
The files (Doc 60 and 61) are on the files website
Oh Dear, poor Andy isn't happy. I suggest that stops making excuses and pretending to be repentant and remembers that Bernard Maddoff received 125 years in prison and was around the same age when he was caught. If he only gets 78 months, then he has got off very lightly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wizzard7
Interesting to see the Government are talking about further remissions for victims, as some people, mainly overseas I believe, did not receive notice from Rush. Is this going to go though Rust or will it be direct from the DoJ? Do you have any information?
Nope, it is still a Motion before Judge Collyer, who has yet decided on it. Until such time as Her Honor signs an order, it is but a motion before the court.
No idea if they will go through Rust Consulting or not.