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    re: NASM Accredited??? DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    Instead of being on the Guided Pathways they are supposed to be on, Richland students are on The Highway to HELL!!!


    Living easy, living free
    Season ticket on a one-way ride
    Asking nothing, leave me be
    Taking everything in my stride
    Don't need reason, don't need rhyme
    Ain't nothing I would rather do
    Going down, party time
    My friends are gonna be there too

    I'm on the highway to hell
    On the highway to hell
    Highway to hell
    I'm on the highway to hell

    No stop signs, speed limit
    Nobody's gonna slow me down
    Like a wheel, gonna spin it
    Nobody's gonna mess me around
    Hey Satan, paid my dues
    Playing in a rocking band
    Hey mama, look at me
    I'm on my way to the promised land, whoo!

    I'm on the highway to hell
    Highway to hell
    I'm on the highway to hell
    Highway to hell

    Don't stop me
    I'm on the highway to hell
    On the highway to hell
    I'm on the highway to hell
    On the highway
    Yeah, highway to hell
    I'm on the highway to hell
    Highway to hell
    Highway to hell

    And I'm going down
    All the way
    Whoa!
    I'm on the highway to hell

    Students who walk into the Music Building, Fannin Hall, have an alarming habit of turning into music majors. Derrick Logozzo and Melissa Logan don't hold students to the standards of any real school of music as they are simply filling chairs. Students are not put on the Guided Pathway and taking the universal core classes that all degrees require so that they can actually get an Associate's and then Bachelor's Degree and be able to change majors as many of them should and will want to do. Logan and Logozzo load students down with dozens of music hours that are not on any degree plan and lead them straight down the highway to out of state tuition and loss of financial aid hell!

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    re: NASM Accredited??? DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    Graduation-Rates Campaign Heads to Dallas | The Texas Tribune

    Graduation-Rates Campaign Heads to Dallas

    A new billboard that will tower over Dallas' North Central Expressway on Monday offers a startling message on college graduation rates, an effort by a state business group to turn the spotlight on the the state's lagging higher ed outcomes.


    A new billboard that will tower over Dallas' North Central Expressway on Monday offers a startling message: "8% OF DCCCD STUDENTS GRADUATE IN 3 YRS. IS THAT FAIR TO THE STUDENTS? TX ASSN OF BUSINESS."
    DCCCD is the Dallas County Community College District. The Texas Association of Business is an advocacy group for Texas business owners that has made lagging graduation rates at the state's higher education institutions a pet issue....."We're looking at a massive shortage of educated workforce unless we increase the productivity of education in Texas," Hammond said. "Overall, two-thirds of the jobs of the future will require some post-secondary degree or certificate."
    That was posted in 2011. Things will never improve as long as dirty music advisors are on a mission to fill chairs. Putting students into dozens of hours of music classes that will never transfer, put students into out of state tuition if they transfer, exhausts their eligibility for financial aid and do not lead to any marketable skills is downright criminal. Derrick Logozzo and Melissa Logan are wasting mountains of tax dollars and the DCCCD and Richland administration is asleep at the wheel. Students should be sent to Career Services, the Transfer Center and the real advisors to get set up to do something that is going to lead to a real job. The taxpayers shouldn't be funding this party that never ends!

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    Which majors make money? New Texas law aims to let college applicants know - Business - Austin American-Statesman - Austin, TX

    By Bob Sechler
    Posted Dec 27, 2019 at 9:58 AM
    Texas business leaders say they’re all for college students pursuing their passions, even if it means majoring in contemporary dance, sculpture or something similarly esoteric.

    They’d just like to convey a few financial details first -- like the probability of earning a bigger paycheck as a computer programmer, or even a plumber.
    “A lot of people have no clue” how many jobs are available in various occupations and what they pay, said Tony Bennett, president of the Texas Association of Manufacturers. “If you know that going in, and you still pick whatever (major or profession), that’s fine.”

    Come Jan. 1, wage and workforce statistics will have a higher profile during the application process to Texas colleges and universities, under a measure backed by Bennett’s organization and other business groups around the state and approved by lawmakers during this year’s session of the Texas Legislature.

    It requires a “prominent link” to the data on the standardized electronic college application -- called ApplyTexas -- used by about 450,000 prospective students annually....

    The database provides comparisons of public two- and four-year postsecondary institutions in Texas, including statistics on average earnings and debt burdens for graduates of various programs.

    For instance, annual wages earned by a 2015 graduate with a bachelor’s degree in fine arts from a Texas institution averaged about $36,000 after three years, according to the data, compared to about $81,000 for a computer science major and $56,000 for a graduate of a plumbing certification program.
    ....

    Backers of boosting the profile of such workforce-related information say it’s more important than ever for students to consider, because the cost of higher education and the amount of debt needed to pay for it have risen dramatically.

    But the effort isn’t entirely altruistic. With the Texas labor market stretched thin and the unemployment rate historically low, business advocates also say it’s essential for the economy that the skills of new graduates match up relatively well on average with the qualifications being sought in the multitudes of help-wanted postings across the state.
    “We need to organically grow more Texas students with certain skills that businesses are looking for,” said Justin Yancy, president of the Texas Business Leadership Council.....

    “For us, it really is about the comprehensive picture when we’re counseling students (on possible majors), and that is one piece of information,” Wasielewski said....
    Derrick Logozzo and Melissa Logan wouldn't be able to make almost every student that walks into the door a music major if they had the facts. Students are not sent to Career Services and are told that the Transfer Center and other advisors don't know what they are talking about. Some cold hard facts are definitely in order! The dirty advisors are wasting students' financial aid and in state tuition eligible hours. Richland's motto is complete BS for those trapped in dozens of hours of music classes that will not transfer, are not on any degree plan, exhaust students' financial aid, puts students into out of state / non-resident tuition and does not give them any marketable job skills.

    higher education that actually gets you hired!..... my a$$!!!

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    re: NASM Accredited??? DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    Access Denied

    Before letting Logozzo and Logan make any life ruining choices for them, students should investigate all of their options. Career Services, the real Advising Center and the Transfer Center are good places to start. The article linked will get students asking questions and exploring options before they end up with over 100 hours of music crap that leads nowhere but out of state tuition and exhausting of financial aid.

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    re: NASM Accredited??? DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    These Heartbreaking Stories Show Hard It Is To Pay For College

    The reality of paying for college. Having a truthful advisor that gives students all the options and information they need is vital. Richland College music advisors filling their own music chairs is criminal. Real families struggle to pay for college and want their kids to have a better life. DCCCD is wasting our tax dollars and destroying students' lives with dishonest advising!

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    re: NASM Accredited??? DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    Under new Texas law, college employees could be fired and charged for not reporting sexual misconduct
    Under Senate Bill 212 starting Jan. 1, employees at Texas universities could face criminal charges and lose their jobs if they fail to report incidents of sexual harassment, assault, stalking or dating violence.

    Sen. Joan Huffman, R-Houston, said she wrote the bill to address gaps in the reporting process at some universities.
    Examples of Sexual Harassment

    The following descriptions, while not all-inclusive, will help you understand the types of behavior that are considered “conduct of a sexual nature” and that, if unwelcome, may constitute sexual harassment:

    Unwanted sexual statements: Sexual or “dirty” jokes, comments on physical attributes, spreading rumors about or rating others as to sexual activity or performance, talking about one’s sexual activity in front of others and displaying or distributing sexually explicit drawings, pictures and/or written material. Unwanted sexual statements can be made in person, in writing, electronically (email, instant messaging, blogs, web pages, etc.) and otherwise.

    Unwanted personal attention: Letters, telephone calls, visits, pressure for sexual favors, pressure for unnecessary personal interaction and pressure for dates where a sexual/romantic intent appears evident but remains unwanted.

    Unwanted physical or sexual advances: Touching, hugging, kissing, fondling, touching oneself sexually for others to view, sexual assault, intercourse or other sexual activity.
    Derrick Logozzo won't be telling students that have been sexually harassed to work it out among themselves any more! Reporting issues like that is his job, so that those who are qualified can step in and deal with it properly. Men have a right to feel safe on campus and on school sponsored trips. Sexual harassment is not a joke and it should never be tolerated.

    Richland will not be able to sweep the crime on campus under the rug any more either. A female student that refuses the sexual advances of another female student shouldn't have a pound of marijuana waved in her face on campus to entice her to "get wasted" and go out with the women she did not wish to have a sexual relationship with and had already made that abundantly clear to. And, when that alleged drug dealer is reported to police departments, the student that turned down the sexual aggressor in writing shouldn't be further victimized by the Richland Administration. That student with the pound of what she said was pot tried to finger her victim for the pot because the campus police report never made it to the Vice President's desk to be dealt with in the first place, but local police and Child Protective Services were contacting her and she was enraged. An innocent high school student that resembled the victim then got pulled in by the Richland Campus police and questioned about the marijuana. That student left the Richland high school program and finished her schooling elsewhere. The Richland VP was going to give the victim's class schedule to the alleged drug dealer so that Richland could put both victim and aggressor under a No Contact Order. An alleged drug dealer shouldn't be given that information as that jeopardizes the safety of the student that she is harassing. The student being harassed by the drug dealer did not feel safe on campus and missed a great deal of class due to Richland being incapable of dealing with the situation in a timely or reasonable manner.

    The total lack of communication and action by DCCCD and Richland will have to be addressed. Students, paying parents and taxpayers all expect that students will be safe on campus and issues will be addressed effectively and immediately. That includes advising being done by the book! Richland is turning into a drug campus and students are not safe!

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    re: NASM Accredited??? DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    All DCCCD employees are expected to report actual or suspected sexual misconduct to appropriate officials...

    Retaliation

    It is unlawful (illegal) and a violation of DCCCD’s Sexual Misconduct policy to retaliate against an individual for:

    • alleging sexual misconduct;
    • supporting a person bringing a complaint or grievance;
    • opposing sexual misconduct;
    • assisting in providing information relevant to such a claim; or
    • participating in any grievance process on campus or with a government agency.

    If you believe you are being subjected to retaliatory behavior for filing a complaint of sexual misconduct or participating in the investigation of such a complaint, please contact your college Title IX coordinator.....



    If you have experienced any type of sexual misconduct and/or harassment; if it has happened to you or someone you know, or suspect that it is being done to someone, it is your obligation to report it. If you see something, say something. Please contact:

    Latrenda S. Thomas
    Interim Title IX Coordinator
    Title IX Administrator
    ADA Coordinator
    972-761-6852
    TitleIX-RLC@dcccd.edu

    Complaint Incident Report Form
    For additional information, you can also visit: title-ix-sexual-misconduct
    I can tell folks why people at Richland don't report things. Nothing gets done in most instances and if the college does take action they make things absolutely miserable for those that do the right thing and make a report. I reported the women who had brought what she said was a pound of pot onto campus to numerous authorities. The alleged drug dealer blamed the female student who refused to date her. The student who refused to date her went through hell on campus for months. The alleged drug dealer came back for another semester and only left when she realized the men on campus who were much younger than she was wouldn't date her either. Richland rolls out the carpet for troubled students who aren't serious about school, but clearly are there to party.
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    re: NASM Accredited??? DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    The troubled student had been to a 4 year college, then come to Richland, and had supposedly auditioned and was accepted to yet another 4 year college to finish her music performance degree. Mysteriously, this student ended up back at Richland yet again claiming most of her credit hours didn't transfer. Well, any music hours she took at that point I can guarantee wouldn't transfer as she was way over music hours on any degree plan.

    So, she had no legitimate reason to be in the music department and Derrick Logozzo put her back in knowing that she had been causing issues previously. After the pot incident and numerous run-ins with the campus police, Richland Administrators still kept her in the program. As I noted before, she only left Richland when she couldn't get people, her Wind Symphony buds, to go get wasted and party with her. There are bars on Greenville Avenue for those that want to find a party.

    Richland has an obligation to serve students that have special needs and challenges. All students should be welcomed to further their educations. But, for students who are not on a certificate or degree path, there is no reason to have these troubled students on campus when their only reason for being there appears to be to solicit dates and socialize. This student had very serious issues and individuals outside of campus made reports to the campus police and administration. Her fellow students had every reason to feel they were not safe with her on campus.

    It is supposed to be a real serious music department and not the circus that it has turned into!
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    re: NASM Accredited??? DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    The Richland advisors, obviously excluding Derrick Logozzo and Melissa Logan, are incredibly helpful and knowledgeable. The first thing the real advisor questioned when my daughter went for help to register for this spring was why she had so many music hours. My daughter explained that Derrick Logozzo had put her in all that music crap. Logozzo tells everyone that they can do multiple majors at Richland College and that the MUAP (private voice or instrument lessons) are cheap lessons. Logozzo doesn't discuss career options or the fact that credit hours eligible for in-state tuition and financial aid are very limited. The real advisor knew immediately that those hours were not on any degree plan and would not transfer. She dug right in and looked at attempted hours and calculated what was left to finish an Associate's Degree and was very concerned because my daughter was way over hours and will be in out of state tuition when she transfers.

    The advisor also noted that anyone with more than 89 hours can have serious issues transferring. The state colleges don't have to take a student with over 89 hours and why would they want to take a student who is going to be in out of state tuition (that financial aid doesn't cover and they likely won't be able to pay) and that may exhaust their financial aid as well due to the excess hours. Placing students in credit hours over the Associate's Degree can do them serious harm. Derrick Logozzo and Melissa Logan should have been removed a long time ago as the records posted in this thread show that music students have been used to fill music chairs and not advised honestly.

    Please note what UTD states.

    Admission Requirements - Office of Admission and Enrollment - The University of Texas at Dallas

    Reviewed Admission Criteria

    All transfer applicants are reviewed individually and holistically. Consideration is given to factors such as:

    • Cumulative GPA and overall academic coursework and performance.
    • Preparation for and ability to be successful in intended major.
    • Information provided in optional supplemental materials including a resume, essay, and/or letter(s) of recommendation.
      • While not required, we encourage all applicants to submit supplemental materials.
      • Letters of recommendation are limited to a maximum of three.
      • Applicants should respond to the Apply Texas application essay prompt.


    Assured Admission Criteria

    Applicants are eligible for assured transfer admission by meeting all of the following criteria:


    • 42 or more transferable credit hours.
    • A minimum cumulative transferable GPA of 3.0 or greater on a 4.0 scale.
    • Fewer than 90 cumulative attempted hours between all attended institutions of higher education.
    • Applicant must be in good standing with the last college or university attended.

    Or

    • A Comet Connection member with a completed AA/AS/AAT.
    • A minimum cumulative GPA of 3.0 or greater on a 4.0 scale.
    • Applicant must be in good standing with the last college or university attended.

      About Comet Connection

      The Comet Connection is a program for Texas community college students who know they want to complete a bachelor’s degree at The University of Texas at Dallas. This unique program invites transfer students to become acquainted with the many services available to UT Dallas students while beginning to build a close association with the University. All two-year colleges in the state of Texas are participating partners in the UT Dallas Comet Connection program.

      Opportunities unique to Comet Connection members:
    • Tuition Savings: Participate in the UT Dallas Guaranteed Tuition Plan.
    • Deferred Admission: Defer admission for up to 12 months.
    • Degree Completion: Transfer UT Dallas course credit back to your community college to complete your associate degree.
    • Early Advising: Meet one-on-one with UT Dallas academic advisors.
    • Career Preparation: Access to pre-health professions and pre-law advising centers.
    • Library Privileges: Use the UT Dallas Library through the TexShare program.
    • Student Discounts: Join us at campus and athletic events and get the Comet Connection student rate.

    Join Comet Connection-

    Step 1
    When choosing Texas community college courses, reference the UT Dallas transfer plans to guide you towards classes that will directly apply to your bachelor’s degree.

    Step 2
    Join Comet Connection

    • Complete a minimum of 12 hours at your community college.
    • Be in good standing with your community college.
    • Download and fill out the Comet Connection agreement form.

    • Have an academic advisor at your community college sign the agreement form.
    • Return the form to the UT Dallas Office of Admission and Enrollment Services.

    Step 3
    Apply to UT Dallas


    • Complete a minimum of 30 transferable credit hours at your community college.
    • Submit the following documents to UT Dallas:
      • ApplyTexas application for transfer admission and official transcripts from all colleges/universities attended prior to posted deadlines.
      • Pay the $50 non-refundable application fee. You may have this fee waived by attending Preview Friday. Application fees already paid cannot be reimbursed.


    Step 4
    Enroll at UT Dallas


    • Declare your intent to enroll.
    • Register for transfer orientation.
    • Schedule a meeting with an academic advisor.
    • For Comet Connection members, admission is valid for 12 months from the semester of admission. Comet Connection students who plan to defer enrollment must submit a Petition for Undergraduate Deferment of Admission form, which is located under the Admission Forms folder in their Galaxy account. Deferment requests must be filed by census day of the original application term.


    Lock In Your Tuition
    Please note that UTD requires the preparation for and ability to be successful in intended major. UTD doesn't put everyone that walks in the door in the program as a music major as Derrick Logozzo and Melissa Logan customarily do at Richland College. Students at UTD may join an ensemble while pursuing a degree that will actually lead to gainful employment. UTD carefully scrutinizes those that are over 89 credit hours. UTD will lock in tuition and get students in to transfer with the Comet Connection, but that requires meeting with real advisors at both DCCCD and UTD. The advisors will put the students in classes that will directly apply to the chosen degree. DCCCD needs to remove its advisors that are incompetent and see that students get certificates, Associate's Degrees and transfer ready!

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    re: NASM Accredited??? DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    Two-year transfers are finding not all of their credits go with them
    ...students transferring from Alamo Colleges -- the community college district serving San Antonio -- to the city's branch of Texas A&M University. There the issue is staying too long at the community college to earn a four-year bachelor's degree.

    On average those students transferred into the university with 80 to 90 credits. Approximately 92 percent transferred from Alamo with 70 or more credits, although the minimum required was 45, said Cynthia Teniente-Matson, president of Texas A&M University-San Antonio. So these students are almost certain to have their credit rejected because they aren't taking the upper-division courses that would go toward a four-year degree plan.


    University officials have found students are making the transfer decision too late or they're not informed, she said.

    At most universities it takes 100 to 130 units to earn a degree. Students with 80 to 90 units should be 60 percent of the way toward a degree, but they're not, Teniente-Matson said. “They'll run out of institutional aid before they earn a degree.

    And that could be one reason why the majority of community college students who want to earn a bachelor's degree don't do so, said Bruce H. Leslie, chancellor of Alamo Colleges.


    Texas very much mimics national numbers, which show 80 percent of students at two-year institutions plan at the time they enroll at the community college to earn a bachelor's degree. Yet 25 percent actually transfer to a four-year institution within five years. (Thirty-six percent of those students do earn an associate degree or certificate first.) Of that 25 percent, 17 percent actually walk away with a bachelor's within six years of transferring, according to the Community College Research Center at Columbia University.


    The transfer system can be difficult to navigate, especially for students who are either in remediation or come from first-generation, low-income families, or have some language barriers, Teniente-Matson said. “So you have a student who is trying to navigate two systems, the community college campus while also the four-year campus, and balancing financial aid. That sort of system can be complex for students," she said.


    The systems can be even harder to navigate with an adviser who is working with hundreds...
    66 credit hours are the maximum that will normally transfer. So, Richland students being put into hours over the Associate's Degree / Guided Pathway are guaranteed to find transferring a nightmare if they even get that far! The graduation and transfer rates are abysmal and for Richland Music students it is no mystery why. Richland College Music students are being burned by the very advisors who are supposed to be keeping them on the path to graduation and transfer. Derrick Logozzo and Melissa Logan are using students to fill their music department chairs and the consequences for their advising victims are dire. Credit hours lost in transfer, financial aid exhausted and out of state tuition charged at 4 year universities can end pursuing college degree. The incompetent advisors must be removed by DCCCD and students put back into the hands of the real advisors and transfer specialists that can get them on the path to real success!

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    re: NASM Accredited??? DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    UT-Austin Transfer Application Requirements and Eligibility

    Does it sometimes feel like navigating the transfer process is like wading through a swamp? Don't get overwhelmed!
    UT defines a transfer student as anyone who has attempted or earned at least one college credit since finishing high school...

    You must have a minimum of a 3.0 GPA to be considered. If your GPA is less than 3.0, you will not gain admission.
    UT also discourages applicants who exceed more than 60 credit hours while pursuing a bachelor's degree at a four-year university. You must complete a minimum of 60 hours in residence at UT to receive your degree. Some programs won't look at your application if you exceed 90 hours.
    Take only the hours needed to get the Associate's Degree at Richland plus the required 4 credit hours of recital and 4 credit hours of piano and get out in two years! Universities may not take students that have more than 89 hours from a 2 year / junior college. The real advisors from Richland College count attempted hours and will keep you on a degree plan that will lead to a successful transfer and/or gainful employment. The music advisors, Derrick Logozzo and Melissa Logan, will put you on the never ending program of filling their music chairs at your expense!

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    re: NASM Accredited??? DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    The totally incompetent advising continues. Melissa Logan's latest advising worksheet says that recital is recommended (not required.) All real music schools require Freshman and Sophomores to take recital every semester. It is absolutely required and must be taken. The Richland College Music Department has always required it as well. Recital is not reflected in the degree plan hours at Richland or most other programs, but it is always required. This advisor has no clue what she is doing. She puts students into dozens of hours of credit classes that don't exist on any degree plan and are excess hours that put her students into out of state / Non-resident tuition and she exhausts their financial aid, but she can't get them into a class that is actually required?

    The large choir, Chamber Singers, has only 28 enrolled. A few additional students may be in the Jazz Singers or the new Audiation ensemble nonsense (another way to put students in excess hours not on any degree plan on the planet.) There are a whopping 32 students taking MUAP 2281 (2 credit hour voice lessons of which 8 credits are on the degree plan and will transfer for a music major only.) 4 students are taking MUAP 1181 (1 credit hour voice lessons.) So, everyone that steps into a choir and a few more are in voice lessons. That is what is destroying the music program. It is no longer a legitimate program. NASM dictates, "as a matter of sound educational practice, institutions recruit and admit students only to programs or curricula for which they show aptitudes and prospects for success. 71 NASM Handbook 2018-19II.H., I. The institution shall inform a student promptly if it is determined that he or she is not acceptable as a candidate for a degree, certificate, or diploma,"

    Richland has always had many students that are in other majors and certificate programs and plenty of community members in the Chamber Singers just to sing in that 1 class, meaning students who were not taking lessons and other music classes. I would know. I was in that very large top choir for years, left Richland with a voice scholarship and was on that scholarship at what is now Texas A & M Commerce until I completed my Bachelor's of Music. Melissa Logan making everyone a music major is going to have dire consequences. It reflects a program that has no standards for admittance and is not a real college level music program. Many will not be able to even finish the music program at Richland. Those students who have been schmoozed into a voice major by this incompetent advisor will have wasted their hours eligible for financial aid and in-state tuition for naught. That is a steep price too pay for these students and their paying parents. Logan has a handful of students that she has gotten transferred to her alma mater Midwestern State University. Those few that made it that far are way over hours and will be charged out of state tuition ($150 per credit hour for hours above 150 or so which financial aid does not cover) and could exhaust their financial aid due to her advising. One of the students she sent out there this fall had 126 hours to start with. That is more than the degree from a 2 year program. Beyond ridiculous! Logan is advising the Richland Music Department into disaster.

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    re: NASM Accredited??? DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    Students:

    Happy New Year! I hope that you have had a great break and holiday season. It is going to be a great semester in Richland College Music. We are back in the offices and ready to assist you in getting started for the Spring.

    If you have not done so, please get with us on your Spring Semester Plan Meeting for your Spring course schedules and other related items. Instrumentalists: contact Derrick Logozzo, derricklogozzo@dcccd.edu and Vocalists: contact Professor Melissa Logan, melissalogan@dcccd.edu.

    ****Reminder: You have until the evening of Wed. January 15 to have at least one credit course in your schedule to avoid being shut out of classes that start on January 21. It must be entered and paid in the system in order to add classes to your schedule after that date.

    Open Auditions: For any of you who may know of someone outside of our department who would like to be in our performance courses or other music courses for the Spring, let them know to contact us. We have Open Auditions by appointment and on the following days:
    January 14 and January 22 1-4 PM
    Spring Dates to start up

    • Spring Term Dates: Jan. 21 through May 14, 2020
    • Spring Orientation/Private Lesson Meetings Recital—Tuesday January 21
    • TMEA: Feb. 12-15
    • 1st Lunch Concert—Thurs. Feb. 20, Jazz Combos
    • 1st Evening Concert—Tues. March 24, SI1


    Contact us as soon as possible for any of your Semester Plan needs.

    Sincerely,

    Derrick Logozzo, MM. Perf.
    Department Chair of Music, Richland College
    Director of Instrumental Music, Richland Wind Symphony, Big Band Jazz Ensemble, Percussion Group, & Steel Bands

    Professor of Percussion, Drum Set, & Conducting
    Music Auditions and Workshops Coordinator
    Music Advisor
    Carnival of Steel Festival Host
    Richland College Music Scholarship Chair
    DCCCD Music Curriculum Committee Member
    Immediate Past President, Texas Community College Band Directors Association

    Richland College Dept. of Music Office F148
    12800 Abrams Road Dallas, TX 75243-2199

    derricklogozzo@dcccd.edu
    Office: 972.238.6254
    Mobile: 214.450.3466

    FAX:: 972.238.3799
    Visit us online:
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    www.richlandcollege.edu/carnivalofsteel
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    www.facebook.com/RichlandCollegeCarnivalofSteel
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    Please read the excerpts quoting Vice President Donna Walker:

    Concern: Derrick Logozzo is registering students in excessive hours in music ensembles.

    o Response: Guided Pathway advisors are available to students to be advised for core classes and to register for their classes. Music coordinators are available to advise students for music classes. Guided Pathways advisors may register them, or students may register themselves for their courses. Music coordinators have been instructed to follow the Guided Pathway and may not require students to enroll in courses outside of the Guided Pathway.The Guided Pathway indicates that students are not required to enroll in more than 4 semester credit hours MUEN and 8 semester credit hours MUAP to complete that component of the Field of Study in Music. Should students choose to take additional courses, they have the option to enroll in continuing education sections of MUEN and MUAP and not accrue credit hours. Non-degree seeking students may enroll in credit or continuing education sections of music courses. Student enrollments will continue to be monitored to ensure alignment with the Guided Pathway.

    · Concern: It’s a conflict of interest to have the faculty advise students
    · Response: Music faculty are the content experts and will only advise students for music courses. Music faculty will not register students for music or core classes. Guided Pathway advisors will be available for students to be advised for core classes prior to enrolling in music classes. Students and Guided Pathway advisors will register students for music and core classes.
    Concern: Students should be told that CE is an option

    o Response: Students have been informed that CE sections of music are an option if students wish to pay CE tuition as opposed to accruing credit hours. CE will set up notifications in the course schedule that concurrent sections of music classes are available on demand for student registration for fall 2019.
    · Concern: Music faculty should be using the degree plan for the four-year institutions to determine how many ensembles, private lessons, and music classes students should be enrolled in as well as following the guided pathways to the letter
    o Response: Students will be advised according to the Guided Pathway for the Field of Study in Music.
    o
    o The Guided Pathway indicates that students are not required to enroll in more than 4 semester credit hours MUEN and 8 semester credit hours MUAP to complete that component of the Field of Study in Music. Should students choose to take additional courses, they have the option to enroll in continuing education sections of MUEN and MUAP and not accrue credit hours. Non-degree seeking students may enroll in credit or continuing education sections of music courses.

    "Music faculty will not register students for music or core classes," says the VP. So, students should not go to Logan or Logozzo, but straight over to general advising, Career Services and the Transfer Center where they follow the Guided Pathway / Degree plans to the letter so students won't exhaust their financial aid and end up in out of state tuition and make sure that they are fully and honestly informed about everything.

    "Student enrollments will continue to be monitored to ensure alignment with the Guided Pathway,"says the VP. Well, yes I am monitoring and posting the records and the dirty music advisors are still going completely rogue and putting students into dozens of hours that are not on the Guided Pathway / Degree Plan.

    And, very few CE (Continuing Education) sections of music classes were made available when all of the MUAP, MUEN and recital should have been, so students that are over hours will not accrue any more credit hours.

    I am vigorously pursuing this with the Richland Administration and DCCCD board. I will not rest until the errant advisors are removed and the students advised honestly!

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    re: NASM Accredited??? DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    Its the sheep to the slaughter at Richland. Another music victim just signed up for 4 credit hours of MUAP (private lessons) when only 2 is on the degree plan and will transfer and 3 MUEN hours when only 1 will transfer. An anonymous source tells me that the errant advising is in fact a district wide problem. Will DCCCD fire the dirty advisors that are filling their department and personal class chairs and create a bloodbath for taxpayers that don't even know they are paying for classes that will not transfer and lead nowhere? Will DCCCD fire these dirty advisors that continue to waste students credit hours eligible for financial aid and put them in out of state tuition at a 4 year college when they transfer? I have made more Open Records Request and will continue to expose the malfeasance in DCCCD. The mad mother is going to take out the bad guys hurting our students!


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    re: NASM Accredited??? DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    The music department is in total chaos and confusion. Traditionally, recital was required for anyone taking a private lesson (MUAP.) A student would be signed up for 1 (MUAP of 2 credit hours,) with the co-requisites of 1 MUEN (ensemble) and then recital. Now, the music department is a free for all. No one seems to know what to do. Students who do need recital are not showing up on the roster because that incompetent and totally clueless advisor, Choir Director Melissa Logan, is now babbling about and publishing on her course guide that recital is only recommended (optional) when in fact 4 semesters are required for music majors. Students who are not music majors and that can't transfer it should not take it with out of state tuition looming. Those that already have 4 credits should not take it as it will not transfer and excess hours are a serious concern.

    Students that will be transferring need exactly 4 semesters of recital and no more. Since Logan and Logozzo have kept their students away from the real advisors in Thunderduck Hall and the Transfer Center, there are gobs of students that have and are taking excess recital hours. Of course, students are still being signed up for numerous excess hours of ensembles and private lessons as well that won't transfer and serve no other purpose than to exhaust their financial aid and put them at risk of paying out of state tuition when they transfer.

    Melissa Logan and Derrick Logozzo should have been removed long ago and the real advisors should be the only ones seeing students. I recommend that any student in recital that does not need it to transfer join me and drop it. That is totally predatory and dishonest to make some students take it when others are not having to take it. As I said, this is total chaos and confusion. These credit hours cost money and time. Students should not be tricked into paying for hours that won't transfer. Why is the DCCCD administration not getting all students to qualified advisors and following degree plans? DCCCD has been sued numerous times, including over fees that are charged. Do they think the students they have ripped off with excess hours that keep them in school longer, exhaust their financial aid and put them at risk of having to pay out of state /non-resident tuition when they transfer are going to do nothing when a big fight over fees was waged?

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    re: NASM Accredited??? DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    Derrick Logozzo has put students back into the program that skipped class more than half of the time and missed a performance last semester. Attendance in all the music classes and ensembles is abysmal. There were a number of students who routinely missed class and sauntered in late when they did bother to come to the college. So, Richland apparently passes every warm body that registers and the program literally has no standards.

    Real music schools that are accredited don't operate like this. Attendance is expected and after only a few absences students are failed and their days as music students come to an abrupt end. And, these Richland students are still in numerous ensembles and hours of music crap that are not on any degree plan, will not transfer and waste their credit hours eligible for financial aid and in state tuition. The Music department uses them to increase the numbers, burns them out and the administration and DCCCD board keep looking the other way.

    Richland's program is not legitimate and does not compare in any way to that at a real university. Following are exceprts from UNT Handbooks. How long are the taxpayers going to have to fund this circus show?

    Last edited by Soapboxmom; 01-16-2020 at 04:29 PM.

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    re: NASM Accredited??? DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    Let's talk numbers.

    Total Number of students enrolled in Recital Class = 91 (anyone taking private lessons / MUAP is required to enroll in this class)
    The degree plans / Guided Pathway have students in 1 MUEN (1 credit hour ensemble) and 1 MUAP (2 credit hour private lesson)
    Around 15% or so of those enrolled in MUEN are not music majors and not enrolled in lessons and recital.

    MUEN Enrollment Numbers:
    Big Band Jazz 22
    Jazz Combo 10
    Guitar 13
    Steel Band 17
    String Orchestra 25
    String Orchestra 8
    Wind Symphony 38
    Chamber Singers 45
    Composition 10
    Audiation Choir 13
    Percussion / Woodwinds 15
    Audiation Strings 17
    Chamber Strings 16
    Jazz Singers 16
    Fusion 12
    Opera Workshop 21
    -------------------------------------------
    299


    MUAP Enrollment Numbers:
    Half Hour (1 Credit Hour) Lessons Hour (2 Credit Hour) Lessons
    Violin 1 14
    Viola 1 4
    Cello 3 8
    Double Bass 1 5
    Electric Bass 3 5
    Flute 1 2
    Oboe 0 0
    Clarinet 2 4
    Saxophone 1 1
    Trumpet 2 3
    French Horn 0 1
    Trombone 1 1
    Baritone 1 2
    Tuba 0 2
    Percussion 5 10
    Drum Set 1 10
    Guitar 9 18
    Piano 17 20
    Voice 15 33
    Bassoon No instructor
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    62 286

    The 90 recital students are in an average of 3.9 credit hours of lessons when they should be in just 2 credit hours of lessons. If we assume 15% of ensemble enrollees are not in recital and we take that number out of the total ensemble enrollment, then the 90 recital students are in 2.8 ensembles each when they should be enrolled in a single ensemble. That translates into quite a few students in 3 or 4 ensembles and totally overwhelmed and careening toward loss of financial aid and out of state tuition when transferring. The music advisors must be removed and the music program fixed to conform to the degree plans of the real colleges so students can transfer successfully.
    Last edited by Soapboxmom; Today at 12:07 AM. Reason: number of enrolled students dropped

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    re: NASM Accredited??? DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    VP Donna Walker and many more were informed months ago that the voice Master Class should be a studio class that is integrated into the voice lessons as every other college on the planet does. It is not for music majors, not on any degree plan, will not transfer and puts these music students closer to loss of financial aid and out of state tuition. No student should be paying for this class that doesn't exist or adding more credits to the $hitload of excess hours they have already been tricked into taking by Derrick Logozzo and Melissa Logan. As only 60-66 hours transfer, it is imperative that students not take more than the 4 MUEN and 8 MUAP hours in the degree plan / Guided Pathway. The responses quoted below are those of VP Donna Walker.

    Concern: There are not many students that only take ensembles and no lessons or other music classeso Response: Correct.

    · Concern: Students should be told that CE is an option
    o Response: Students have been informed that CE sections of music are an option if students wish to pay CE tuition as opposed to accruing credit hours. CE will set up notifications in the course schedule that concurrent sections of music classes are available on demand for student registration for fall 2019.
    · Concern: Music faculty should be using the degree plan for the four-year institutions to determine how many ensembles, private lessons, and music classes students should be enrolled in as well as following the guided pathways to the letter
    o Response: Students will be advised according to the Guided Pathway for the Field of Study in Music.

    · Concern: Derrick rehearsals going beyond the end time
    o Response: All full-time instructors have been instructed by the executive dean to ensure that classes end on time. Music coordinators have been instructed by the executive dean to ensure that their part-time instructors end classes on time.

    • Concern: It’s a conflict of interest to have the faculty advise students
      • Response: Music faculty are the content experts and will only advise students for music courses. Music faculty will not register students for music or core classes. Guided Pathway advisors will be available for students to be advised for core classes prior to enrolling in music classes. Students and Guided Pathway advisors will register students for music and core classes.
      • · Concern: Eastfield enrolls students in 1 MUAP, 1 MUEN, and recital as MUAP co-requisites and that should be standard practice
        o Response: This has also been the practice at Richland College
        · Concern: The number of ensembles should be determined by the four-year degree plan or the Guided Pathway
        o Response: The Guided Pathway indicates that students are not required to enroll in more than 4 semester credit hours MUEN and 8 semester credit hours MUAP to complete that component of the Field of Study in Music. Should students choose to take additional courses, they have the option to enroll in continuing education sections of MUEN and MUAP and not accrue credit hours. Non-degree seeking students may enroll in credit or continuing education sections of music courses.




    MUSI 1183 Voice Class I 1 Credit Hours (2 classes)
    Course Description for MUSI 1183

    MUSI 1183 (1 Credit Hours)
    Voice Class I

    This is a Texas Common Course Number.
    Course Description: This course is for non-voice majors. It presents the principles of breathing, voice production, tone control, enunciation, and phrasing in two group lessons a week. This course may be repeated for credit. (2 Lab.)

    Coordinating Board Academic Approval Number 5009085126
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    MUSI-1183-83002 Class Syllabus for MUSI-1183-83002 (1244987)
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    Jan 21, 2020
    May 14, 2020
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    Open Seats: 11
    Capacity: 30
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    Note: Required for voice majors and students enrolled in MUAP 1181 or MUAP 2281. Contact Director, Melissa Logan, 972.238.6284 melissalogan@dcccd.edu Email Instructor for placement.
    MUSI-1183-83003 Class Syllabus for MUSI-1183-83003 (1244988)
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    Comments:
    Note: Required for voice majors and students enrolled in MUAP 1181 or MUAP 2281. Contact Director, Melissa Logan, 972.238.6284 melissalogan@dcccd.edu Email Instructor for placement.

    This program is totally predatory. The administration has lied about the program and is not implementing the changes that were promised in writing. Derrick Logozzo and Melissa Logan are not following degree plans or the parameters set forth by the administration. I will not sit idly be while students are still being advised into complete disaster by dishonest advisors and administrators that want to fill chairs and increase numbers at the expense of trusting students.

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    re: NASM Accredited??? DCCCD Richland College Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan Out of State Tuition Nightmare

    MUAP Enrollment Numbers:
    Half Hour (1 Credit Hour) Lessons Hour (2 Credit Hour) Lessons
    Violin 1 14
    Viola 1 4
    Cello 3 8
    Double Bass 1 5
    Electric Bass 3 5
    Flute 1 2
    Oboe 0 0
    Clarinet 2 4
    Saxophone 1 1
    Trumpet 2 3
    French Horn 0 1
    Trombone 1 1
    Baritone 1 2
    Tuba 0 2
    Percussion 5 10
    Drum Set 1 10
    Guitar 9 18
    Piano 17 20
    Voice 15 33
    Bassoon No instructor
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    62 286


    The other tragedy behind these numbers are the incredibly gifted adjuncts who all hold Master's and Doctoral Degrees in Music. They are only paid for contact hours. Richland is collapsing due to the dirty advising and disorganization. With the lack of facilities and broken pianos, there are not spaces to properly conduct lessons and not near enough practice rooms for the students to get adequate practice time in. These adjuncts are being asked to come out for few students.

    The viola teacher has only 4 hours of lessons a week. The flute teacher comes out for only 2 1/2 hours a week. One saxophone teacher is scheduled for an hour a week and the other has me for 1/2 an hour a week. The trumpet teacher is getting only 4 hours a week. The French horn teacher has an hour a week. The 2 trombone, baritone and tuba teachers each have only 3 hours a week. The percussion teacher in addition to Logozzo has no students. Two of the guitar teachers have only an hour a week. A piano teacher comes out for only 2 1/2 hours a week. The lone bassoon student does not have a teacher. Many of these teachers drive to Richland College in Dallas, TX from Forth Worth or Denton.

    The program is a complete mess. DCCCD needs to combine and fine tune their seven colleges' programs so that there are real music offerings that follow degree plans and get students transfer ready in 2 years.
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