Thread: Exposing the Ponzi Masters book released by Real Scam member

So you thought it better to steal a copy than accept a free copy? Have fun :)

Originally Posted by JamesParis

My new book is available for free download from Amazon.com today.

James can you please start your own thread for advertising books, your pimping of bitcoin, training programs etc...
This thread is for the discussion of the ProfitableSunrise scam and not here for you to pimp this and that....Which I believe is against forum rules....

Even though I certainly am not a Christian myself, in fact I'm the complete opposite, I have still always had a deep respect for true Christians and the morals by which they live their lives....
You Sir are doing all you can do to destroy that respect......

Replying to Okosh Comment -

PS: Other thing I absolutely against your promotion of BitCoins within christian community, maybe you just do not understand yourself all things involved in that.
Or what makes you better than some other ponzi promoter , if you involve yourself into something like that ?

In my view, the U.S. Dollar has no more intrinsic value than the Bitcoin. Bitcoin is based on sound math and is limited in production (unlike the unlimited quantitative easing of our currency). We can have a reasonable debate about the concept, but comparing it to a Ponzi scheme is really ridiculous and I know you are much more intelligent than that. I like to reserve the phrase scammer and Ponzi scheme for occasions when it actually applies. If we simply start calling ideas and concepts we disagree with scams, that really diminishes the word. Bitcoin is an established currency that is widely accepted and so is the math behind it. I am not trying to sell you on it; either you see it or you don't. I suggest that people put a small amount in Bitcoins as a means of diversification. I don't sell them the Bitcoins, so how could I be running a scam by simply making this general suggestion? To question my credibility, as you did earlier, simply on the basis that I taught a course on how Bitcoin works is beneath you. I 'had' a lot of respect for this message board, but not sure that I do anymore. By the way, my training courses range in price from $8 to $25 monthly and the student can cancel at anytime. If you consider my teaching on Internet marketing a scam, what about colleges charging $50,000 for degrees teaching these same concepts? People can make money on the Internet, and I earn my full time income doing so. Just because you don't understand how to do so yourself is no reason to consider others that do scammers.

Originally Posted by JamesParis

I 'had' a lot of respect for this message board, but not sure that I do anymore.

Maybe you should try MMG or TG for pimping your wares....No doubt you'll find some suckers there to sell your $197 money making website to....
You may even have some luck there building your downline...errrr...I mean internet scamming school.....

Originally Posted by JamesParis

So it is pimping to offer folks a free copy of my book written on the very topic of this thread, really?
Sorry my ambition is so threatening to you and your 'thread.'

Pimping your...cough...Book is one thing.....Pimping bitcoin is questionable....
But pimping your internet school is way over the line in my book....

And NO...You are no threat to me.....And your pretending to be one of the good guys may fool others but it don't fool me

I do believe that you guys are being too quick to judge James Paris.His affronts seem to be:


1)Writing his book.
I can't say for sure how much credit he claims for bringing down PS(HINT:It wasn't brought down .The Scammers ran away with the money and left the victims and convenient sacrificial scapegoats to burn).Perhaps we can discuss the content of the book (maybe open another thread for it)?.


2)Promoting Bitcoin
While in my belief that Bitcoin in its current form is unwieldy as a retail tool, unattractive as currency,unreliable as an investment,unlawful in many of its utility and most definitely,definitely not untraceable(this is a plus side), I believe it may sort out its kinks in the future.It is, IMO inevitable that all the current fiat currency be replaced by cryptocurrency type(preferably a single one) in the future(possibly not in our lifetime and not by Bitcoin) .The current form of crypto currency is the protoform of that .So yes, I see nothing wrong in promoting bitcoin(the ponzi reference is out of place,although there are ponzis that accept payment in bitcoin) as long as you are truthful and make all parties aware of the current nature of it.


3)His "school"
This one made me wince.Perchance anybody who motivated enough and with good investigative skill(alas my own google fu is weak) can open a thread for this?

I saw a copy of James' book on Kindle but didn't get the chance to read it to the end. From the way the book was described I was very interested to see who he gave credit to and was not disappointed. Lynn and Gregg were mentioned by name as well they should have been and Patrick Pretty and RealScam were credited as well, I think that's quite fair. I'm not a literary critic and wont pretend to be one but the book is worth a read to anyone with interest.

As to bitcoin and other side issues, if anyone feels motivated to continue those topics perhaps they could be encouraged to open a new thread and provide a link here to it. Thanks.

Originally Posted by GlimDropper

As to bitcoin and other side issues, if anyone feels motivated to continue those topics perhaps they could be encouraged to open a new thread and provide a link here to it. Thanks.

http://www.realscam.com/f9/control-b...n-enough-2212/

James, please fell free to post a link to court motion audio here.

I spotted some lies during her examinations, I am sure others will spot more.

In my view, the U.S. Dollar has no more intrinsic value than the Bitcoin. Bitcoin is based on sound math and is limited in production (unlike the unlimited quantitative easing of our currency). We can have a reasonable debate about the concept, but comparing it to a Ponzi scheme is really ridiculous

That statement alone proves why you shouldn't be teaching anyone anything about it, it demonstrates an utter lack of understanding of what DOES back the US Dollar and DOES NOT back up bitcoin. Bitcoin have no more intrinsic value than Beanie Babies and Tulip Bulbs. The US dollar has the backing of the taxing authority of the US Treasury and it's creation is actually linked, through the operation of the Federal Reserve, to creation of new wealth in the US economy. I won't clog the thread up with it the details, you can search Quatloos for a good description I wrote.

And there lies a problem I have, not with you personally but with many self proclaimed "experts", you're a smart guy. you have a big audience and you do a bit of good. But you're not an expert, you're a guy who got taken in by one scam and had a personal, religious, journey associated with it. Tell your story as a cautionary tale about trusting people with things of which you know not, but I think it's irresponsible of you to give financial advice. Unless I'm missing something I don't believe you have any special educational or professional qualifications and frankly, in many respects you're just a slightly more sincere Troy Dooly from here in the Well Armed Bunker Complex. You may have a better grasp of these things than some of your readers, but in some areas, like Troy who recently found out the hard way, you know woefully little and don't even know that you don't know.

For instance, and I do not give financial advice beyond scam education, I can understand Troy not knowing the intricate details of the Securities Act, I don't either to tell the truth. But what I do know, and Troy apparently didn't, was that the Act existed and before I started advising about specific companies I really needed to check into it with a lawyer or better yet, two independent lawyers. Another thing, even though I see most scams on their face, when you look at the revenue required to fulfill the promises made by them, they almost all fall stunningly short. ProSun would have needed trillions of dollars in revenue to pay the easter bonus, simple maths, but how many "experts" not only didn't see that, but ignored it when they were told?

Jim, you're a good guy, and you're bringing good messages to a wide audience, but honestly, beyond basic "don't fall for scams, if it sounds to good to be true, it is" advice, I wish you stick to your spiritual message, because your financial message is a well intentioned disaster waiting to happen.

Just my 22.45 Dinar worth of observation.

I will put my credentials up against you and anyone else in this forum.

Graduate Of The College For Financial Planning
Author of more than 24 books
More Than 1,000 media appearances as a financial expert on radio and television
Participated in taking more than 75 companies public
Owned and operated my own nationally registered broker dealer and investment adviser
Licensed as a securities broker personally all the way up to a supervisory level licensing, including securities and municipal bond trading
Owned and operated my own real estate brokerage firm and was licensed as a real estate broker
Owned and operated my own mortgage brokerage firm and was licensed as a mortgage broker
Owned and operated my own life insurance agency, licensed in all aspects of insurance and annuities nationwide
Personally managed portfolios of more than $100 million dollars
Personally run a trading desk with assets of more than $100 million dollars
I have advised celebrities, athletes, TV personalities, NFL and MLB pro athletes,

By the way, the U.S. Dollar has 0 value on the alleged theory of being backed by a taxing authority. It is U.S. bonds that would have a value based on this principle. You would know this if you were a bond trader like I was.

Originally Posted by JamesParis

You would know this if you were a bond trader like I was.

james bond?

I will be a guest on Acceleration Radio with LA Marzulli tonight at 9 pm Eastern discussing Profitable Sunrise Fringe Radio Network – Live Listening Center

Thank you very much for posting that link Mr. Paris. I only have time to listen to a small part of it at the moment but I'll be sure to listen to the rest. One early "jumps out at me" moment was if Dr. Goddie Ude is calling Nanci up personally to invite her into programs then she's in a lot deeper and into more programs than she's letting on.

Glim, there are way more lies she said under the oath.

please pay attention and verify things she says. maybe i am wrong on some, when i get some time i will find as much proof as i can to show her lies.

Get MP3 version on your Ipod :)


PS: also pay attention what she was posting here on RS in early days of PS, something caught my attention.

I am getting flooded with people that want to be able read my new book on their computer, since they don't have a Kindle. This is no problem at all. This little tip I am going to share with you will also help you to get tons of free books from Amazon as well.

1. Go to Amazon.com: Online Shopping for Electronics, Apparel, Computers, Books, DVDs & more and then search for 'Exposing The Ponzi Masters.' Once you find the book, go ahead and buy it for 0 (Yep, it is free until Sunday night).

2. After your 'order' goes through, go to this link https://read.amazon.com You will be prompted to log in with your same username and password as you did when you ordered the book.

You should now see the book on your screen and you can start reading. Rinse and repeat and you can do this on tons of other free promo books on amazon.

Best Wishes!

Jim Paris

or you can install Kindle reader for your computer, and login to your amazon account from the reader program
MAC: Amazon.com: Kindle for Mac - Read Kindle eBooks on your Mac
WIN: Amazon.com: Kindle for PC - Read Kindle eBooks on your PC
IOS: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/kind...302584613?mt=8


PS: James , do not miss your radio show (starts in 30min) :)

Another excerpt from Exposing The Ponzi Masters -

Nancy Jo Frazer questioned directly by the judge

on BYOAudio

Another hit starring Nancy Frazer, again being questioned directly by the judge (excerpt from Exposing The Ponzi Masters)

on BYOAudio

James, the link to radio show you posted does not work

This is the right one (started):
Fringe Radio Network - - Listen Online

It is 9 pm Eastern http://tunein.com/station/?stationId=169899

It is running right now, I just clicked through. I guess it is 9 pm Fringe Radio Network - - Listen Online

Another interesting clip from Dave Steckel -

on BYOAudio

James,
I thank you for the audio links.
They are very interesting to say the least.

Originally Posted by JamesParis

I will put my credentials up against you and anyone else in this forum.

Make a thread called James "FIGJAM" Paris and do it there