Exposing the Ponzi Masters book released by Real Scam member

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Originally Posted by JamesParis

I 'had' a lot of respect for this message board, but not sure that I do anymore.

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Maybe you should try MMG or TG for pimping your wares....No doubt you'll find some suckers there to sell your $197 money making website to....
You may even have some luck there building your downline...errrr...I mean internet scamming school.....

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Originally Posted by JamesParis

So it is pimping to offer folks a free copy of my book written on the very topic of this thread, really?
Sorry my ambition is so threatening to you and your 'thread.'

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Pimping your...cough...Book is one thing.....Pimping bitcoin is questionable....
But pimping your internet school is way over the line in my book....

And NO...You are no threat to me.....And your pretending to be one of the good guys may fool others but it don't fool me :RpS_wink:

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Originally Posted by JamesParis

So it is pimping to offer folks a free copy of my book written on the very topic of this thread, really? Especially when this thread and some of its contributors are actually mentioned in the book? Seems pretty much right on topic. Anyone that earns a living is pimping I guess. So, my work as an author is to simply be compared to a scammer since I am making money doing it? Anyone on this thread could have written a book about this, but I got up off my rear end and did so. Sorry my ambition is so threatening to you and your 'thread.'

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I have always said that I would never purchase an E-Book because I despise reading long topics, procedures, or books on a computer screen. (for whatever reason it gives me a headache) I will make a one time exception and purchase yours against my better judgement and will comment after reading. (I guess I will print it and read it that way.) My wife has a nook not kindle.

I saw a copy of James' book on Kindle but didn't get the chance to read it to the end. From the way the book was described I was very interested to see who he gave credit to and was not disappointed. Lynn and Gregg were mentioned by name as well they should have been and Patrick Pretty and RealScam were credited as well, I think that's quite fair. I'm not a literary critic and wont pretend to be one but the book is worth a read to anyone with interest.

As to bitcoin and other side issues, if anyone feels motivated to continue those topics perhaps they could be encouraged to open a new thread and provide a link here to it. Thanks.

I do believe that you guys are being too quick to judge James Paris.His affronts seem to be:


1)Writing his book.
I can't say for sure how much credit he claims for bringing down PS(HINT:It wasn't brought down .The Scammers ran away with the money and left the victims and convenient sacrificial scapegoats to burn).Perhaps we can discuss the content of the book (maybe open another thread for it)?.


2)Promoting Bitcoin
While in my belief that Bitcoin in its current form is unwieldy as a retail tool, unattractive as currency,unreliable as an investment,unlawful in many of its utility and most definitely,definitely not untraceable(this is a plus side), I believe it may sort out its kinks in the future.It is, IMO inevitable that all the current fiat currency be replaced by cryptocurrency type(preferably a single one) in the future(possibly not in our lifetime and not by Bitcoin) .The current form of crypto currency is the protoform of that .So yes, I see nothing wrong in promoting bitcoin(the ponzi reference is out of place,although there are ponzis that accept payment in bitcoin) as long as you are truthful and make all parties aware of the current nature of it.


3)His "school"
This one made me wince.Perchance anybody who motivated enough and with good investigative skill(alas my own google fu is weak) can open a thread for this?

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Originally Posted by GlimDropper

As to bitcoin and other side issues, if anyone feels motivated to continue those topics perhaps they could be encouraged to open a new thread and provide a link here to it. Thanks.

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http://www.realscam.com/f9/control-b...n-enough-2212/

James, please fell free to post a link to court motion audio here.

I spotted some lies during her examinations, I am sure others will spot more.

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In my view, the U.S. Dollar has no more intrinsic value than the Bitcoin. Bitcoin is based on sound math and is limited in production (unlike the unlimited quantitative easing of our currency). We can have a reasonable debate about the concept, but comparing it to a Ponzi scheme is really ridiculous

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That statement alone proves why you shouldn't be teaching anyone anything about it, it demonstrates an utter lack of understanding of what DOES back the US Dollar and DOES NOT back up bitcoin. Bitcoin have no more intrinsic value than Beanie Babies and Tulip Bulbs. The US dollar has the backing of the taxing authority of the US Treasury and it's creation is actually linked, through the operation of the Federal Reserve, to creation of new wealth in the US economy. I won't clog the thread up with it the details, you can search Quatloos for a good description I wrote.

And there lies a problem I have, not with you personally but with many self proclaimed "experts", you're a smart guy. you have a big audience and you do a bit of good. But you're not an expert, you're a guy who got taken in by one scam and had a personal, religious, journey associated with it. Tell your story as a cautionary tale about trusting people with things of which you know not, but I think it's irresponsible of you to give financial advice. Unless I'm missing something I don't believe you have any special educational or professional qualifications and frankly, in many respects you're just a slightly more sincere Troy Dooly from here in the Well Armed Bunker Complex. You may have a better grasp of these things than some of your readers, but in some areas, like Troy who recently found out the hard way, you know woefully little and don't even know that you don't know.

For instance, and I do not give financial advice beyond scam education, I can understand Troy not knowing the intricate details of the Securities Act, I don't either to tell the truth. But what I do know, and Troy apparently didn't, was that the Act existed and before I started advising about specific companies I really needed to check into it with a lawyer or better yet, two independent lawyers. Another thing, even though I see most scams on their face, when you look at the revenue required to fulfill the promises made by them, they almost all fall stunningly short. ProSun would have needed trillions of dollars in revenue to pay the easter bonus, simple maths, but how many "experts" not only didn't see that, but ignored it when they were told?

Jim, you're a good guy, and you're bringing good messages to a wide audience, but honestly, beyond basic "don't fall for scams, if it sounds to good to be true, it is" advice, I wish you stick to your spiritual message, because your financial message is a well intentioned disaster waiting to happen.

Just my 22.45 Dinar worth of observation.

I will put my credentials up against you and anyone else in this forum.

Graduate Of The College For Financial Planning
Author of more than 24 books
More Than 1,000 media appearances as a financial expert on radio and television
Participated in taking more than 75 companies public
Owned and operated my own nationally registered broker dealer and investment adviser
Licensed as a securities broker personally all the way up to a supervisory level licensing, including securities and municipal bond trading
Owned and operated my own real estate brokerage firm and was licensed as a real estate broker
Owned and operated my own mortgage brokerage firm and was licensed as a mortgage broker
Owned and operated my own life insurance agency, licensed in all aspects of insurance and annuities nationwide
Personally managed portfolios of more than $100 million dollars
Personally run a trading desk with assets of more than $100 million dollars
I have advised celebrities, athletes, TV personalities, NFL and MLB pro athletes,

By the way, the U.S. Dollar has 0 value on the alleged theory of being backed by a taxing authority. It is U.S. bonds that would have a value based on this principle. You would know this if you were a bond trader like I was.

I will be a guest on Acceleration Radio with LA Marzulli tonight at 9 pm Eastern discussing Profitable Sunrise Fringe Radio Network – Live Listening Center

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Originally Posted by JamesParis

You would know this if you were a bond trader like I was.

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james bond?

August 30th testimony from Nancy Frazer hearing, compliments of Premier Financial Communications - Publisher of Exposing The Ponzi Masters

on BYOAudio

Thank you very much for posting that link Mr. Paris. I only have time to listen to a small part of it at the moment but I'll be sure to listen to the rest. One early "jumps out at me" moment was if Dr. Goddie Ude is calling Nanci up personally to invite her into programs then she's in a lot deeper and into more programs than she's letting on.

Glim, there are way more lies she said under the oath.

please pay attention and verify things she says. maybe i am wrong on some, when i get some time i will find as much proof as i can to show her lies.

Get MP3 version on your Ipod :)


PS: also pay attention what she was posting here on RS in early days of PS, something caught my attention.

The hits keep on coming. Another audio excerpt from my book, this time starring Dave Steckel -

on BYOAudio

Attachment 6132

I am getting flooded with people that want to be able read my new book on their computer, since they don't have a Kindle. This is no problem at all. This little tip I am going to share with you will also help you to get tons of free books from Amazon as well.

1. Go to Amazon.com: Online Shopping for Electronics, Apparel, Computers, Books, DVDs & more and then search for 'Exposing The Ponzi Masters.' Once you find the book, go ahead and buy it for 0 (Yep, it is free until Sunday night).

2. After your 'order' goes through, go to this link https://read.amazon.com You will be prompted to log in with your same username and password as you did when you ordered the book.

You should now see the book on your screen and you can start reading. Rinse and repeat and you can do this on tons of other free promo books on amazon.

Best Wishes!

Jim Paris

or you can install Kindle reader for your computer, and login to your amazon account from the reader program
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PS: James , do not miss your radio show (starts in 30min) :)

Another excerpt from Exposing The Ponzi Masters -

Nancy Jo Frazer questioned directly by the judge

on BYOAudio

Another hit starring Nancy Frazer, again being questioned directly by the judge (excerpt from Exposing The Ponzi Masters)

on BYOAudio

James, the link to radio show you posted does not work

This is the right one (started):
Fringe Radio Network - - Listen Online

It is 9 pm Eastern http://tunein.com/station/?stationId=169899

It is running right now, I just clicked through. I guess it is 9 pm Fringe Radio Network - - Listen Online

James,
I thank you for the audio links.
They are very interesting to say the least.

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Originally Posted by JamesParis

I will put my credentials up against you and anyone else in this forum.

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Make a thread called James "FIGJAM" Paris and do it there :RpS_wink:

I have found the last couple of pages most interesting reading. I want to give a different perspective about Jim's book than has been presented so far.

First, this was the first experience that Jim has had with dealing with a Ponzi. He has not had the years of experience that most of us have had in dealing with Ponzi's and all the people who promote, but also who get caught up in the Ponzi believing they are real. The title of his book is about when he learned about PS how he exposed it, not that he was the only one exposing it. He has media contacts within the Christian community that allowed Christians to learn about it, why not to join, and for those in it to get out of it. Contacts that we don't have, and I am glad he used them to give even more exposure to this Ponzi.

None of us took the hits that he took from not only the Christian community, but also from the major promoters of PS. He became Public Enemy #1. They came at him with a vengenance, and he had to remind himself these were Christians who were attacking him. Rather unsettling to be treated by your fellow Christians that way and also shocking that Christians could be so duped into believing all the hype that surrounded PS.

PS was specifically targeting Christians. Out of all the people in PS, a good 98% were Christians, as that is how PS was promoting itself. Remember Ty (MyriadForce) telling all of us how Jesus was blessing PS and all of us here exposing PS as a Ponzi were doing the work of Satan? There was no attempt by Jim to exclude those that were not Christians from his exposure, but as a Christian his focus was on warning and educating Christians. The rest of us were doing a good job or exposing this to those who were not Christians.

There was no requirement for him to give myself, or anyone else for that matter, credit in his book; but he did. This book was about what he did and how he was targeted, not what the rest of us did to expose PS as were were educating the masses not just Christians. While I appreciate his kind remarks about Gregg, RS, Patrick Pretty, and myself, I would not have felt slighted if he had not mentioned me in his book.

Jim was the major instrument in reaching the Christian community, and for that I am very grateful that he did. From what I read, Jim is not taking credit for the downfalll of PS, but only about the role he played in educating Christians about this Ponzi.

I think at times we forget that not everyone has the history that most of us have in dealing with Ponzi's, their pimps, players and the people who join them thinking they are real. All we have to do is look at how we treated people in the BB thread of the first-timers exposing BB for the Ponzi it is. The same thing can be said here about Jim's book.

The good news each of us had our role in the exposure and demise of PS. It took all of us to accomplish this task. There are still things being done behind the scenes to help bring those responsible to justice. This is far from over, and there is much more to come.

I personally owe a debt of gratitude to Jim for reaching out to the Christian community through his media contacts to warn Christians, and also for taking all the hate directed at him instead of it being focused on any of us. While I cannot speak for certain, but I am sure that there were things he has not told in his book that happened to him.

As for all the other issues that have been raised, anyone can start a thread and discuss them there, but they really don't belong here. Just my 2-cents worth.