Thread: Bogdan Fiedur (owner of scam & ponzi promoting site - Adlandpro)Threatening RS and Critics Again!!!

This little excerpt from the Los Angeles County, Office of The District Attorney Unauthorized Practice of Law Manual for Prosecutors looks like fun...

The Supreme Court has determined that the term “practice law” as used in sections 6125
and 6126 means:
. . . the doing and performing services in a court of justice in any
matter depending therein throughout the various stages and in
conformity with the adopted rules of procedure. It includes legal
advice and counsel and the preparation of legal instruments and
contracts by which the legal rights are secured although such
matter may or may not be depending in a court.
People v. Merchants Protective Corp. (1922) 189 Cal. 543, 535 (emphasis added), cited with
approval in Birbower, Montalban, Condo & Frank, P.C. v. Superior Court (1998) 17 Cal.4th
119, 127-128. Law practice encompasses “legal advice and legal instrument and contract
preparation, whether or not these subjects were rendered in the course of litigation” (Birbower,
Montalban, Condo & Frank, P.C., supra, at 128), and the giving of legal advice on a matter not
pending before a court is nonetheless a violation of section 6125 and 6126. (Mickel v. Murphy
(1957) 147 Cal.App.2d 718, 721.)

I suppose somebody should call Dean Moran and ask her what school policy is regarding students giving legal advice.

Jake Simmons wrote:

There is such a Legal link on the Adlandpro site stating the responsibilities of the members or customers postings but it appears you have chosen to ignore that and make implications which my friend is in fact criminal.

Excuse me but a sauced bar fly, pardon me, legal eagle law student from UCLA that just happened across that silly site with 6 members and no SEO is calling Bogdan his friend??? And he has while studying for final exams had time to read all the posts here, across the net and has checked out Adlanpro's legal terms? I think not BottomFeeder!

The Bar Fly also says:

The medium is placing the content and placing it within their publication are under no moral or legal respsibility to verify the claim.

Then as Laidback brilliantly pointed out, he reverses himself and now says RS is responsible for the postings even though Bogdan isn't.

....

The fact that you state that the owner of Real Scam is not involved tells me you have some type of contact with them to know this and if in fact he/she is not involved would mean that they are just the broadcasting medium and therefore fall under the broadcasters code if they have a legal statement on their site that they do not endorse or support the statements made by members. The FCC which covers the legislation of broadcasters and is careful to not become involved with the broadcasters First Amendment Rights unless they broadcast hate, defamation, slander or libel.

FCC

There are laws passed by Congress that restrict a station from broadcasting material that promotes certain lotteries, advertises cigarettes, little cigars or smokeless tobacco products, or perpetuates a fraud.

Defamation, libel and slander are torts for the most part and would be addressed in civil litigation --- not the FCC!

Soapboxmom

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

California State Bar says:

Excellent, let's have those California bar numbers for all you incredibly verbose soon to be lawyers!


A real investigative journalist will go where the facts lead them. This could be beyond hilarious! I would be happy to be interviewed and cooperate. Think how much more dirt this investigator could dig up that we volunteers don't have the time to research. Go for it Bogdan!!!

Soapboxmom

He should save that money and use it on a real lawyer so he can get this to court pronto.

Originally Posted by laidback

It actually looks like Bogged HAS given up the legal debates...he has closed down the discussion thread.Probably a good thing because the legal help he is getting so far is just helping to dig the hole deeper...! Notice how conveniently they keep sidestepping probable legal f aux pas by he and his entourage...? LRM has it right, knock off the huffing and puffing and get it filed so the discovery motions can get started...!

That's what we call a "dummy spit".....He knew I was gonna tear him a new one over his post asking me to show proof of scam promotion, him making his profit from scams and the rest.....He knew he couldn't win so he took his bat and ball and went home to cry to his mommy....

fa·cil·i·tate/fəˈsiliˌtāt/

Verb:	Make (an action or process) easy or easier.
Synonyms:	relieve - ease - alleviate - simplify - lighten

con·spir·a·cy/kənˈspirəsē/

Noun:

A secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful. The action of plotting or conspiring.

England and Wales

The standard definition of a conspiracy to defraud was provided by Lord Dilhorne in Scott v Metropolitan Police Commissioner, when he said that

it is clearly the law that an agreement by two or more by dishonesty to deprive a person of something which is his or to which he is or would be entitled and an agreement by two or more by dishonesty to injure some proprietary right of his, suffices to constitute the offence of conspiracy to defraud.

Conspiracy to defraud therefore contains two key elements; that the conspiracy involved dishonesty, and that if the conspiracy was undertaken, the victim's property rights would be harmed. This does not require the defendants' actions to directly result in the fraud; in R v Hollinshead, the House of Lords held that producing devices designed to alter electricity meter readings constituted conspiracy to defraud, even though the actual fraud would be carried out by members of the public rather than the conspirators. In two situations, it will not even be necessary for the actions to directly lead to any kind of financial loss for the victim; these are when the conspirators plan to deceive a person holding public office into acting counter to their duties, and when the conspirators know that their actions put the victim's property at risk, even if the risk never materialises

Bogdan knows,

we know he knows,

he has produced no proof he has taken steps to clarify his legal rights, responsibilities and obligations.

IANAL, nor do I play one in a TV series, but, I would imagine with the amount of archiving and screen grabs done, IF this should ever get into a courtroom, the Bogmeister would have a hell of a job proving his ignorance of the law/s.

Not that ignorance of the law in any way mitigates what he's doing/done.

All users of the Internet should examine the manner in which they interact online. Consult with an attorney with experience in these matters. And consult as well with your liability insurance to see if you are covered for these kinds of activities.

Well the wannabe lawyers got one thing right when they posted one of their screeds!

Looks as if neither they nor the Bogmeister read ALL of the post before publishing - they certainly missed that bit. Did anyone say "Obstruction of Justice"?

Consult with an attorney with experience in these matters. And consult as well with your liability insurance to see if you are covered for these kinds of activities.

Goodness,

there must be an echo in here, or something.

On another note,

all of the arguments presented by Boggie and his minions fall down if they eliminate one single word - "like"

As in: a Volkswagen is LIKE a Porsche.

Bottom line is, similar though they might be in many respects, a Volkswagen ain't a Porsche and never will be a Porsche.

Neither is what the Washington Post, Rupert Murdoch or ABC does WRT advertising anything but "like" what we're talking about here.

Unless, of course, the Bogmeister Boys intend to use this as a test case, to establish precedent.

Who knows ??

Maybe in a few years we'll be quoting the 2012 case of "Boggie vs RealScam.com" when discussing HYIP ponzis, get-rich-quick scam forums and fraud enablers.

Until then,

he "knows",

we "know",

and the whole 'net is rapidly getting to "know", also.

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The spammer boy has been especially busy! Bogdan after multiple requests is still letting this clown pollute his forums with hundreds of posts.

Soapboxmom

Adland's Person of the week nominations have just been announced and I hope that Howard Kennedy employees take note of the fact, that one is a British member, who is breaking Advertising Standard's Authority legal guiidelines by advertising the community affiliate link and probably some money making affiliate links that are run by his (Fiedur client.)

British Adlandpro Member John Hall

Others nominated for Boggies prize include an EUmember Remco Boom who is offering members of the EU than includes UK one of the most dubious business opportunity newsletters, that I have seen in a long time. Oppsincome.com

I did my best to warn the Senior Partner of Howard Kenned that the firm's client Bogdan Fiedur needed investigation. I have had no contact from the law firm and I have no intention of removing any comments that I have made about Fiedur on my own publications.

This farce must be a great embarrasment to a top British law firm and I sincirely hope it gets cleared up in the shortest space of time.

Bogdan sets up a whine and tell RS and his British solicitor that I am libeling him by saying that he gives prizes to scammers. Here is the evidence that there are prizes awarded to POSOTW every week Person of The Week.

Person of the Week Archives: Person of the Week | AdlandPro Community

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Option # 1

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We can put you there, setup and register you so you can work on your profile and get started, you can access these social network sites with your My Networks page that will allow you to access each account. This will provide you with an unfair advantage over your competition.

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or

Option #2:

The winner of this week's contest will have his/her ad posted to 80,000 recipients through our business or marketing promotional newsletter. These two newsletters are published and mailed out alternately every Wednesday and reach over 80,000 viewers. Another bonus is it’s saved in our archive section so your ad is available for years to search engines and to viewers who are reading our archives.

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Regards,
Barry Scott

Boggy's friends / barfly attorneys to be might want to do a little more study on this:

http://da.co.la.ca.us/pdf/UPLpublic.pdf

Jake Simmons calling Bogdan his friend and attacking us viciously tells us that these clowns are not law students (certainly not 4th year students) and could be held liable if Bogdan acts on their advice and recommendations. No doubt Bogdan's $500.00 an hour counsel will be wasting all kinds of time dealing with this fiasco!

Soapboxmom

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

Bogdan sets up a whine and tell RS and his British solicitor that I am libeling him by saying that he gives prizes to scammers. Here is the evidence that there are prizes awarded to POSOTW every week Person of The Week.

Person of the Week Archives: Person of the Week | AdlandPro Community

PRIZES

Your choice of one of the two options below:

Option # 1

The Social Network Registration package gives you access to Millions of Potential Customers as you are registered to 49 social networks. Through search engines, blog spiders, social network searches, the real visitors to those networks will find your profile and see the products or services you are offering.
We can put you there, setup and register you so you can work on your profile and get started, you can access these social network sites with your My Networks page that will allow you to access each account. This will provide you with an unfair advantage over your competition.

Social Networks | Social Networks | AdlandPro Community

or

Option #2:

The winner of this week's contest will have his/her ad posted to 80,000 recipients through our business or marketing promotional newsletter. These two newsletters are published and mailed out alternately every Wednesday and reach over 80,000 viewers. Another bonus is it’s saved in our archive section so your ad is available for years to search engines and to viewers who are reading our archives.

Marketing Newsletter: http://www.adlandpro.com/opt-in-list...ng/default.asp

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Regards,
Barry Scott

I have checked Boggy's traffic stats. Millions of potential customers??? Sounds like the dreaded malady known as zero disease. Scammers tend to contract this and the symptoms include adding zeroes to traffic stats, earnings potential advertised, the number of reps in an opportunity and more. It is a horrible affliction where the victim is often no longer able to correctly compute numbers that exceed what can be counted on one's fingers. How tragic!

Soapboxmom

Our bar flies apparently haven't dragged out yet to wow us with their legal brilliance. If there were anyone that actually had any legal knowledge and wanted to help Bogdan (the non-existent crowd as he is online begging for legal assistance like a complete buffoon), they would not do it publicly and clue in the defendants to anything.

A true researcher would be seeing both sides of the coin and pointing out to Bogdan what the opposing side will bring and the incredible risks he faces of having the case turned around on him and being forced to bear all costs of court for both sides. The bar flies have yet to address the issue of enumerating and effectively refuting the alleged false statements of fact, which would be the first order of business before anyone opened their big fat mouths and stuck both feet in.

Every attorney I have ever conversed with or worked with always presented all the scenarios they see as possible and warn the client of the worst case scenario. They would have also pointed out that a very public fight could seriously damage a business. Savvy attorneys will often recommend silence as the best cure for what ails. What is going on now is a deluge of bad publicity where before there were just a handful of truthful remarks that were not generating much attention. Bogdan is emptying tankers of fuel on the fire and he and his members are the ones getting burned. No one wants to get put on a witness list, possibly be deposed, have all their financial and tax records subpoenaed and possibly be called to testify.

Soapboxmom

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

Boggy's friends / barfly attorneys to be might want to do a little more study on this:

http://da.co.la.ca.us/pdf/UPLpublic.pdf

Jake Simmons calling Bogdan his friend and attacking us viciously tells us that these clowns are not law students (certainly not 4th year students) and could be held liable if Bogdan acts on their advice and recommendations. No doubt Bogdan's $500.00 an hour counsel will be wasting all kinds of time dealing with this fiasco!

Soapboxmom

Actually, SBM, Boggy doesn't need to act on their advice. Just the fact that they are giving legal advice seems to meet the definition. On another note, one of the"legl" eagles(Stevie Y) posted this:

In Conclusion
All users of the Internet should examine the manner in which they interact online. Consult with an attorney with experience in these matters. And consult as well with your liability insurance to see if you are covered for these kinds of activities.

A publisher that sets a terms of use, that is in fact violated by any user of an interactive computer service when then be held accountable.Did you perhaps mean:a publisher that sets a Term of Service policy that is in fact violated by any user of an interactive computer service will then be held accountable...?

Again the Jesus Lady does not read all of her Google Search Law materials, she scans, copies and pastes. By every legl definition Jesus lady you and your members are breaking the law, I know the staute of limitations here in Cal are one year to file and if you want to take us on let's do it.

at the"realtruth" blog. Hopefully IF he(she?) manages to explain away giving "legl" advice and pass the bar she(he?) will be able to afford a legal secretary that can spell and understand grammar rules( note: statute of limitations IS...not ARE)!
Stevie Y: "Take you on?" Are you going to file a civil action for your "client" or try to get a prosecutor to open a criminal case? Where are you going to file? Texas? Australia? UK, Canada? You just made the statement, ( too late to go back and erase it) that "Jesus Lady" and "her" members are breaking the law. For the record, spell out the specific violation. While you are at it, definitively demonstrate that Boggy has not perpetrated the same violation(s). You seem to be single-handedly proving the maxim that, "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing"!

That wonderful Wallace has made 2 posts asking some very poignant questions, but our legal eagles who were posting furiously are not responding today. I suppose they are furiously Googling and running around town trying to find someone who actually has some legal background so they can carry on with this charade. It must have been particularly embarrassing for Jakee to be on that site having slipped and called the BottomFeeder his friend and then rambled on about small claims court like a complete moron. In most jurisdictions there are no lawyers in small claims. I guess Bogdan could fly down here, file a case for which the court has no jurisdiction (libel and defamation) and then spend weeks in Dallas wating for the trial date, so the nice judge can explain to the bloomin' idiot that he is SOL.

Dallas is certainly the tourist Mecca of the south!!! I will show him some good old fashioned southern hospitality and show him around! He is Big Brother in the making and the self-proclaimed dictator of the internet, so he should go to the President Kennedy Museum in the old School Book Depository building and he then perhaps he can explain to the nice folks there that he will have museums like that bearing his name in the future. Look out world, here comes Bogdan!!!

Soapboxmom

Maybe our "legl egle" law students would like to discuss with their client his hypocrisy in closing the discussion thread with this statement,

Hello Everybody,

Thank you to all who have expressed their opinions to that moment.

I'm forced to close this thread because it turns out that everybody who has posted in here, his/her response has been copied on realscam site and discussed by two former members of this site and owner of realscam.ANOTHER LIE.BOGDON? You DO NOT know the owner of Realscam...!

I don't want any harm to happen to well meaning members of this site and be the target of cyber bullying and cyber stalking after expressing their opinions which are consistent with mine. NO, What you don't want is opinions contrary to yours!

Unfortunately cyber stalkers are here and they will badmouth and implicate you should you engage in this conversation. IS THIS AN ACCUSATION OR AN OPINION< BOGDON? If it is an accusation, file the charges, get it in court!!!

I will reopen this thread in the future to post newest developments in that matter. Yes but only to expound on YOUR side of the conflict!

If you are still interested in this topic, you can visit this page where you don't have to use your full name and still be able to express your opinion without fear of being cyber-bullied. All the huffing and puffing about the unacceptability of "anonymity" is just BS, right?

Bogdon, your rants are pathetic. You are making claims of threats and bullying, and Katleen has claimed to have been bullied, stalked and a victim of racism and it's BS. You whine about things being copied from one public forum to another. So what? Don't like the fact that it puts you in an unfavorable light? If you feel threatened by posts in a forum, you could probably be held up through the mail system...!

Originally Posted by laidback

Maybe our "legl egle" law students would like to discuss with their client his hypocrisy in closing the discussion thread with this statement,
Bogdon, your rants are pathetic. You are making claims of threats and bullying, and Katleen has claimed to have been bullied, stalked and a victim of racism and it's BS. You whine about things being copied from one public forum to another. So what? Don't like the fact that it puts you in an unfavorable light? If you feel threatened by posts in a forum, you could probably be held up through the mail system...!

I am reminded of a famous quote from Hank Hill "That boy ain't too bright"

The complete ignorance and douchbaggery of these alleged UCLA students just screams poke fun at me! Jakee boy says:

I could also seek punitive damages that although it will not be awarded as a monetary but rather to have the indidual legally stopped from using the same recourse or method so I would have them legally stopped from using the internet. If the amount of my loss was under $ the value of limits set in small calims I would seek to file small claims in her jurisdiction. Once a monetary value is secured and if awarded would give me recourse to continuously file until they ceased.

I have no legal background, but, again, I can read and have spent quite a bit of quality time with some of the brightest legal minds in the country. Punitive damages are very unlikely in small claims court in most jurisdictions. And, punitive damages don't magically turn into "legally stopped." What in the sam hell is legally stopped? Did the term injunction just slip his little pea brain? An injunction would stop someone from putting up information / posting and so much more -- i.e. one is enjoined from the particular thing specified.

The judge would not stop one from using the internet in a case where an injunction is sought. When I was serving as a local representative for Rep X who was suing to recover her losses from Tim Darnell, Jack Weinzierl and Advantage Conferences we were all under a temporary agreed order (which amounts to an injunction.) We were barred from very specific things. We could not discuss the case or any of the parties of the case, but the judge was certainly not going to bar anyone from using the internet. What a crazy notion that is!

Filing a judgment for some x amount of dollars that was awarded would not result in an injunction being enforced. They are two totally separate things. I watched several judges here tell the parties before him that if his orders were violated in any way he would fine 'em and good or throw their rear ends in jail. The bailiff ran up to one ladies with his cuffs and that convinced her not to argue with his Honor any further.

Judgments in these parts I believe expire in 10 years, but collection laws vary greatly from state to state. In Texas the only garnishments are for child support. This is a scammers paradise because it is very difficult to collect from someone residing here. The debtor can protect a car for each licensed driver over 18, their primary residence, $60,000.00 in assets plus retirement accounts can't be touched.

Of course, when Boggy gets laughed out of a courtroom I will be sure to post every last embarrassing thing he has filed. That is one certainty in this whole sordid saga!!! Hilariously, no judge can enjoin Boggy and company from being brainless stooges.

Soapboxmom

There is a huge money making venture being launched on Adlandpro. Carl Haarvaldson is on the scrounge again with UltaMex

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Anybody who hands over $59 to this person IS IN SEVERE DANGER of never seeing it again. This is only my opinion but others are welcome to endorse it or defend Adland's well known matrix promoter Carl. How many Adlanders lost money in Carl's previous matrix promotions?

How many Adlanders lost money in Carl's previous matrix promotions?

I think a more relevant question would be:

"How many "matrix" programs have ever turned out to be anything more than get-rich-quick money games"

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

There is a huge money making venture being launched on Adlandpro. Carl Haarvaldson is on the scrounge again with UltaMex

This is nothing more then an illegal "cycler" pyramid/ponzi scheme....It's a fine example of the fraud that Bogan allows to be promoted and profited from on his adland site....

Adlander Carl Haavaldson's mugshot and sales spiel.

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Originally Posted by okosh

This is nothing more then an illegal "cycler" pyramid/ponzi scheme....It's a fine example of the fraud that Bogan allows to be promoted and profited from on his adland site....

I agree and I don't see how Bogan can continue to deny this.

Originally Posted by baylee

I agree and I don't see how Bogan can continue to deny this.

As we all saw....Raise the question and Bogan closes the thread.....

An anonymous email address. lol.