Thread: Bogdan Fiedur (owner of scam & ponzi promoting site - Adlandpro)Threatening RS and Critics Again!!!

Myrna 1162 6041 Waynes...

RE: Why this site is being slandered and harassed for about a year 12/1/2011 4:49:22 PM

Hi Bogdan, This makes sick and makes me angry to think anyone could be so nasty to treat the hand that feeds them. Although I have been seeing some things I just thought to try to send the love and it would help, well that didn't work. The other week when something was written about Kathleen taking over the POTW again, I thought what is the world is that all about. I have felt for some time that she was a back stabber, and this just proves I was right. I see these people are so jealous of what you have with Adlandpro that the only way they can get there kicks is to try to destroy your great site. For those no longer with us, I say good bye, not sorry to see them go. That last comment was the old me, the new me says, as bad as they are, we must be above them and forgive them, this is hard to do but it must be done for Adlandpro. Using the peace movement is the way to win the battle of dishonesty, for the good of all concerned. Bless you Bogdan, and Adlandpro. The best site on the Internet, with the best CEO. It will all work out for the good of all, you wait and see. LOVE is the answer Myrna

For the love of mud, dear lady. The only issue here is $$$$$$$$$$$$. Bogdan is raking it in thanks to you folks that are brainwashed into thinking that site is a social one. There are so many wonderful people there, but you can socialize elsewhere. That site is a money maker for Bogdan plain and simple and that is why he happily promotes some obvious scams there!!!!

Soapboxmom

One of the problems with people like Bodgan, George and all those others who doubt the information provided by consumer advocates is that they simply dont understand the motivation of anyone who does anything NOT for the money or malice. The simple idea that some people object to the widespread purveyance of fraud to innocent victims has never crosses their minds. Equally, they dont seem to understand, or care about the long term ramifications of the money floating around in these so called businesses (I have never yet heard of a real business being described as "a program" )

Fraud, and internet fraud is a multi billion dollar industry and it is international. The harm done by the total of these schemes is tremendous and has even reached the level of destablizing whole countries (as was the case with the ponzis in Benin and Albania). Billions of dollars that neither pass Go nor are recorded in anything other than offshore payment processors, offshore banks and other instutions in tax and other havens in obscure Caribbean islands, are financing what? Money laundering for organized crime and terrorism has already been linked to eGold, eBullion and offshore schemes. Patrick Pretty, in his blog has reported on several of these cases. It is not as far fetched as it may seem at first or mere conjecture

It is no coincidence that most of the "programs" advertised on AdlandPro use Alert Pay, Solid Trust Pay, Strict Pay, eGold and eBullion (in their day) or other offshore payment insitutions. With a few exceptions, paypal wont touch them and there aren't many program owners brazen or reckless enough to use the US banking system as Bowdoin did with ASD and Bank of America (which "lost him tens of millions of dollars to forfeiture).

The Bodgans of this world don't seem to be willing to take on board that any involvement with the Roor/Dispenzas, Nicholas Smirnows, Andy Bowdoins and other founders of frauds helps to enable fraud and other illegalities - whether they are members of AdlandPro or simply have their programs pimped there and they cannot plead innocence and defamation when they are called out on it.

Thank you Heather for the above. It is so much like the messages I would receive from Bogdan when I reported harassment and slander to him.
Laughing in the Face of Adversity

Bogdan,

When people say something stupid,
mean, or evil about you, smile and
laugh out loud in five seconds or less.

You can't control what other people
think, or say about you.

The sooner you stop caring what other
people think, the happier you'll be.

Even if they're talking trash about you in
a public place, like a blog, or forum. You
can stop a forum fire the same way you'd
stop a real fire. Starve it of fuel and it
will go out.

Don't drag your friends into it and pour
fuel on it. Be bigger than that. Turn the
other cheek. Doing so is not an act of
cowardice. It's an act of defiance.

Reacting is only agreeing with the
strength of the attacker. By doing
nothing, forgiving, forgetting and
moving on, you can stay at peace.

Same deal if someone cuts in line,
or cuts you off in traffic. You can
choose to get angry and flood your
body with toxins, or you can choose
to laugh out loud and stay at peace.

Try letting off steam by laughing,
instead of yelling, and you'll notice
a big difference in your life. You'll be
happier. And when you're happy, all
sorts of good hormones get released,
that make you feel great.

Your job is to smile and laugh out loud in
five seconds or less... no matter what.

Go ahead and try it. You'll feel great.

Even if it's a fake laugh. Your body
doesn't know the difference. Why not
make it a big belly laugh.

Go ahead. Do it. I dare you.
Laugh out loud right now.

LOL :-)


Wishing you all the best for success,

Michael

Just last night I reread a message that you sent to me, Bogdan, do you remember the channeling message you sent? It does have a lot of truth in it also and the above letter reminded me of it also.

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

Myrna 1162 6041 Waynes...

RE: Why this site is being slandered and harassed for about a year 12/1/2011 4:49:22 PM

Hi Bogdan, This makes sick and makes me angry to think anyone could be so nasty to treat the hand that feeds them. Although I have been seeing some things I just thought to try to send the love and it would help, well that didn't work. The other week when something was written about Kathleen taking over the POTW again, I thought what is the world is that all about. I have felt for some time that she was a back stabber, and this just proves I was right. I see these people are so jealous of what you have with Adlandpro that the only way they can get there kicks is to try to destroy your great site. For those no longer with us, I say good bye, not sorry to see them go. That last comment was the old me, the new me says, as bad as they are, we must be above them and forgive them, this is hard to do but it must be done for Adlandpro. Using the peace movement is the way to win the battle of dishonesty, for the good of all concerned. Bless you Bogdan, and Adlandpro. The best site on the Internet, with the best CEO. It will all work out for the good of all, you wait and see. LOVE is the answer Myrna

For the love of mud, dear lady. The only issue here is $$$$$$$$$$$$. Bogdan is raking it in thanks to you folks that are brainwashed into thinking that site is a social one. There are so many wonderful people there, but you can socialize elsewhere. That site is a money maker for Bogdan plain and simple and that is why he happily promotes some obvious scams there!!!!

Soapboxmom

Well I knew that one was a lost cause. Myrna tries to be friends with everyone but it is not possible in this world. Hopefully in the other one there will be no stuff like this. Myrna, my friend (I will still call you that), I am not a back stabber as you believe but that is your choice. You can join up with your new friend Kathleen and someday you will learn but I wish you all the best. Thank you for saying you are not sorry to see me go for I am happy to be gone.

Kathleen

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RE: Why this site is being slandered and harassed for about a year11/30/2011 11:21:10 PM
Hi Bogdan,

She gives wrong info about WHY the former member and owner of Art Gallery was terminated:

<< I was really impressed with the “Adland Art Gallery” where established artists within the community showed their work and sold pieces to one and other. I saw a flicker of hope for the program but it was was closed. The person who set it up has been banned when she attempted to inform people about the frauds which are advertised on Adlandpro. >>

==>>The owner of Art Gallery was terminated for editing someone else's post in my forum while mis-using her moderator duty, and stating that no more posts should be made in that thread, and then typing in a big red note in my forum signed "Admin" as if she were you, the owner of Adlandpro. In case everyone here didn't know why.

These 2 former members (and current members) had issues with a nominee on POTW 253 last year October 2010, because they didn't like his promotional methods (spamming forums) and possibly didn't like some of the businesses he was promoting. Vote for the 253rd POTW | View Thread | AdlandPro CommunityThese 2 former members (and some current members) are multi-site insulters, and that's a mild word.

Here's something I'd like to say about the nominee in POTW 253, I've never seen him retaliate or argue with anyone, on any site. In my opinion, that will ALWAYS make him a better individual than anyone who didn't want him on the ballot, so much that they made that their focus instead of bringing in votes for other nominees.

She must have that number 253 branded on her forehead. It is as bad as the year 2007 that she keeps referring to and whining about the election when friend LaNell was in there.

The other week when something was written about Kathleen taking over the POTW again, I thought what is the world is that all about. I have felt for some time that she was a back stabber, and this just proves I was right.

Dear person, she made the statement herself in her own forum. Didn't you see it?? If I were a person who took bets, I would say she is already helping or running it (POTW). I can tell because they are using the same method in replies that I used when I was helping. The whole thing is crooked when are you people going to WAKE UP!!

I told Bogdan that something to the effect that the POTW was a lost cause sometime back. However, it has now become an election of the Scammer of the Week in all reality. That is why Mike could not win. Maybe he has now, I don't know, I have not checked back in a few weeks on that.

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RE: Why this site is being slandered and harassed for about a year12/1/2011 2:59:02 AM
This is not on the topic of site harassment, but...I'd still like to see ALL new nominees on the ballot, every time. People should just TRY to get to know new people. So many of us have won more than once, now it's at the point of being ridiculous, I thought it was at the beginning of 2009 when I started running the election, and now it's almost 3 years later, and most winners are past-winners, winning again & again. What's really ridiculous is putting 1 popular longterm multi-winner against 3 new nominees. So what if there are "spammers" on the ballot, or people who just post in Advertising forums most of the time, or all the time, they would probably visit chat forums sometimes if more people would make the effort to get to know them. Most of the constant-advertisers are very polite when replying to messages. It's a one-week win, it's an electronic ballot, people should just vote on the nominees who are there and not have public group refusal to vote such as #253. That was unnecessary. Those were all non-past-winners, this is a website with an election, I don't know of any other networking site with a weekly election for 6 years, I also don't see why we need to have so many multi-winners, win 10 times and get a free coffee & donut? What's the point? Shouldn't there be term-limits? Is twice enough? How many times is enough to win, and keep overlooking non-winners?

See there you go, that number 253 again!! The word is SCAMMER Kathleen, not SPAMMER as 253 was and is both. We exchanged messages, nothing personal against him just the schemes he tries to sell and spams everywhere.

Boggie discovered this site and he is gnashing his teeth. What could the owner have done to get Boggie's attention in such a short space of time?

Kathleen

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RE: Why this site is being slandered and harassed for about a year12/1/2011 5:39:32 PM
Hi Myrna,

A friend wants clarification about your post on page 2, hope you're not referring to me? I wouldn't think so! :)

Michael and I and Bogdan all have something in common, we were raised Catholic.

My father was and still is very strict, he runs his house his way. Even now that he's almost 80, he won't tolerate arguing in his house, and he still thinks he's 49 and everyone visiting his place is put in our place, like we're all still big kids. Just like here sometimes.

One of my sisters and I didn't always get along, and she and I lived there the longest, when the other kids had moved out, and we didn't even speak to each other much, even when in the same room, and that drove my parents crazy, but people can't be forced to get along, it doesn't make things better, sometimes just not communicating works best for both. BUT if anyone else picked on her, especially someone outside the family, I would find that very upsetting. SO I think when Adlanders are on other sites, they should uphold Adlandpro and all it's members, and not make negative comments ABOUT Adlandpro at Facebook or on RealScam or anywhere else.Not having the election would remove a lot of fuel and fire, or replace it with something we can all participate in without flames or silent wars, I don't know what a good replacement might be.

I am no longer a member, thank God.

Myrna

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RE: Why this site is being slandered and harassed for about a year12/1/2011 6:06:29 PM
Hi Kathleen,


No my dear Kathleen. I am sorry you have any doubts to even think it was you. I do hope this clears this up. Lady, I have admire you, I love the way you put things, just wish I could express myself like you do.
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This is someone I called a "friend"...

If anyone says something ridiculous such as Adlandpro is the root of all "scam" they should realize that Adlandpro has been around longer than most other networks, has more loyalty than Facebook ever will, and nearly every marketer online has membership here. There are almost no former members, it's rare that anyone deletes membership, so any former members were either terminated or deleted their own accounts without realizing everything they can do here. There are several people who still have accounts who are now owners of some of the most successful sites online, and top earners worldwide. If anyone puts Adlandpro in the same sentence with Facebook and Twitter, for whatever reason, that's greatness

That just about sums it up for me friends. I am out of here for the day and night. So sad when a website owner lets people like this take over. I am finished with Adlandpro and wish all those concerned the best (exclude the fraudsters). My focus is my website and enjoying each day doing what I like best. I love my friends and will support them but I realize with Adlandpro, I have few left there. It is okay, people have to do what people have to do even if it amounts to this - well the icon will not let me post it. I think your imagination will work also.

Kathleen

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.....SO I think when Adlanders are on other sites, they should uphold Adlandpro and all it's members, and not make negative comments ABOUT Adlandpro at Facebook or on RealScam or anywhere else....

So, now she wants people to lie and cover up what's going on. Nice, Kathleen! This sure explains why only three of you Adlanders are supporting Bogdan on that egregious thread!

Soapboxmom

....SO I think when Adlanders are on other sites, they should uphold Adlandpro and all it's members, and not make negative comments ABOUT Adlandpro at Facebook or on RealScam or anywhere else....

Good Grief! Don't these people understand that the internet is PUBLIC and that it is not controlled by AdlandPro? Whatever happened to Freedom of Speech? Or is that excluded in the Adland Terms of Service? It might have been one of the first social/business communities and it might have been a good place once upon a time, but it went downhill fast and was taken over by better sites. That is what is known as Real Life. The rest is just nostalgia.

If you can't stand the heat, it is wise to stay out of the kitchen and if you promote dubious programs visible on the public internet, you have to take what you get. It's been mentioned before, but I seriously think that these people have been on one of Clem Lemons' training courses on public relations!

And I wish some of the nit wits would get their definitions right and then they might sound less like bar room lawyers.

Defamation: Verbal = Slander
Written = LIBEL

Originally Posted by Lil Ol' Radical Me

And I wish some of the nit wits would get their definitions right and then they might sound less like bar room lawyers.

Defamation: Verbal = Slander
Written = LIBEL

Now, now, LORM, you aren't actually suggesting that they remember something as complicated as: Spoken=Slander and libel is written now are you...?? You certainly expect a lot...!

Boggies new theme song:

It's the same old story
Everywhere I go,
I get slandered,
Libeled,
I hear words I never heard
In the Bible
And I'm one step ahead of the shoe shine
Two steps away from the county line
Just trying to keep my customers satisfied,
Satisfied.

Simon And Garfunkel Keep The Customer Satisfied

Originally Posted by Bogan

Hi Michael and Kathleen,

I noticed this letter today in my inbox just moment before deleting it. After reading it I have realized that I might be paying too much attention to little people. Life it too short.

Looks like Bogan wants out....I asked him over there if this is his "exit" stratergy....

Originally Posted by okosh

Looks like Bogan wants out....I asked him over there if this is his "exit" stratergy....

Boggy is just a feelin' the love!

Awwww!!!!!

Soapboxmom

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

Boggy is just a feelin' the love!

Awwww!!!!!

Soapboxmom

And as expected his lap dog Kathleen came along to derail the thread with her usual BS....

Originally Posted by Lap-Dog-Kathleen

Okosh,

What have YOU done?

Bogdan built a multi-million page site in 2 languages which he started nearly 14 years ago without even knowing English.

I earned nearly $80,000 online in just over 1 year without a car and without ever attending university, while not having steady employment for most of my adult life. Not having a car is my choice, I also walk 5 miles daily just for fun and exercise, even in cold snowy weather and in rain and wind, I've been doing that since I was about 14 years old, because I didn't want to become obese in a family of lots of obese people. I'm 46 now, that's 3 decades of enough walking to cover the earth many times.

Now tell us what YOU do, what YOU've DONE, what are your accomplishments in the longterm or shortterm, daily or for the past year or past decade, and be serious, not facetious. Tell us about yourself and why anyone here should take you seriously. This community knows each other on a daily basis, now let us get to know YOU if you want us to take YOU seriously.

That's okay, your response was great and Wallace tried to help with

Oh, my, with all these marvelous accomplishments and abilities, how is it that you allowed yourself to be harassed and "cyberstalked", not to mention the so-called "racism" you tried to claim you were subjected to? Pardon me, but I think i need a pinch of salt with that.

Originally Posted by laidback

That's okay, your response was great and Wallace tried to help with

LOL...And BTW...The bucket is not for salt....It's just in case I wanna throw up at Kathleen's verbage.....

Originally Posted by Lil Ol' Radical Me

And I wish some of the nit wits would get their definitions right and then they might sound less like bar room lawyers.

Defamation: Verbal = Slander
Written = LIBEL

I've wanted to point that out but thought it far funnier to see them not know what they are talking about.

Originally Posted by okosh

Looks like Bogan wants out....I asked him over there if this is his "exit" stratergy....

Can't be. He pays far too much attention to himself.

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RE: Why this site is being slandered and harassed for about a year 12/2/2011 4:37:08 PM

Check the traffic: adlandpro.com 35,577 UVs for October 2011 | Compete Nothing Bogdan does will be private. That I can guarantee. I am in contact with numerous people involved with this and I can assure the members here if Bogdan's hideous threats against Adlandpro members and legitimate sites should go any further all the members of Adlandpro could be on the witness list for any such case. They could be deposed and / or subpoenaed and forced to turn over business, financial and tax records related to their activities here. The publicity and media coverage will be extensive. This is not a family. This is a money making venture for Bogdan and the slick promoters on here. The real issue here is $$$$$. Anyone who points out that there are some uneconomic schemes and outright scams promoted here is doing so to protect folks from getting ripped off. What pray tell is wrong with sharing the truth? One thing -- less $$$$ for Bogdan. Making hideous false criminal allegations against Judy, me and my site will backfire, Bogdan. You are going to have to back up what you said and it is all archived. I would bet no competent legal counsel with integrity would allow your loose cannon attacks either! What kind of legitimate businessman has to create a lie-filled slam site to beg for attorneys to contact him? You Bogdan started this three ring circus. https://www.google.com/#hl=en&cp=13&...w=1475&bih=763 RealScam.com cyber-bullying cyber-stalking cyber-harassment Do the members here really support Bogdan threatening folks for expressing their opinion and sharing their experiences? Is Bogdan Big Brother? Is Bogdan going to take over the world and be the grand dictator of the world wide web??? How many more of your old friends will Bogdan threaten?

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Soapboxmom