You claim you went to the real Univeral Life Church with your fraudulent application. Then why don't you post the document of your refrigerator's "ordination"? I contacted church headquarters in Modesto and they said they have no record of anyone with the name Kelvin Ator in their files.

Ridicule, scorn and derision are all fine. You may recall that Jesus Christ endured the same, so that is quite irrelevant to your claim here. You said the church is a scam. But when asked to back up your claim, you revert to ridicule.

Do you still maintain that the church is a scam? Or do we agree that your claim is now simply that it is a ridiculous church? I hold the same opinion of many churches, as do lots of others. So that would be a moot point, and certainly not what this Web site claims to be about.