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    re: Oceanside Equity Partner's Broker Jones calls Our Own Bunky and Soapboxmom CAWITs!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Soapboxmom View Post
    Poor Broke Boy is having a devil of a time advertising. The Fastlane forum for millionaires ran him off with lightening speed to the ditch.


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    broke jones own words from at post at MMG.
    The first paragraph is why their Demo account went bust.

    The second account is about AVS Carter from Chicago.

    Two partners and two crash and burns.

    Capital Gain has a couple of hiccups also which can be found at the NFA website.

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    [quote name='brokerjones' date='Nov 30 2010, 10:58 AM' post='6315853']


    Demo account was hosted at WSD......their servers were very unstable. We decided to pull the plug on it. You can google WSD.....they have been raided for running a criminal operation. We did not have any live funds there. (thank God)


    In the beginning, offering only a small private offer (which is now permanently closed), in order to raise start up capital and provide "limited shareholder partnerships" to a select few pioneering individuals, we had Alertpay......and were limited in choices of broker dealer so we chose one that was located in Chicago in the actual CFTC building itself. They have gotten us thus far with fairly decent performance, but nothing as consistent & reliable as Gain Capital.


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    Dec 25 2010, 05:24 PM

    Our trading at Gain Capital UK is FSA regulated. Period.

    There is no "loophole".

    It took us a little over 3 months to open our CTA account at Gain. We had to send them over 250 pages of documentation. They actually Googled us and wondered if we were a ponzi.......we had to prove to them we were not. (Thanks to the Internet trolls.....it did cost us around 90 days of lost business. Which we are thankful for because now we can prove damages to our business in our future lawsuit.)
    Any word on how that future lawsuit is coming along?

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    re: Oceanside Equity Partner's Broker Jones calls Our Own Bunky and Soapboxmom CAWITs!!!

    Since the real PR people at Gain Capital are now on top of this, I suspect he will be quite busy pulling down all his unique advertising and looking for another scam to morph this current debacle into.

    I think the nice folks at Gain would be completely intolerant of their partner dragging them into any legal adventures as such a suit would by necessity involve them as they are partnered with this gym clothing attired thug. To prove damages all of Broker's and Oceanside's tax and business records would have to be turned over in discovery. Gain would have to respond to voluminous requests as well.

    I think it is safe to say the only credible legal threat in this whole sordid mess will come from Gain's legal department. I think Broker will be told to remove his troll pages and any reference to Gain Capital and Forex.com or face a lawsuit from the "suits" at Gain. I can guarantee Gain will prevail in any action against this circus side show perofrmer we affectionately call the Incredible Bulk.

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    re: Oceanside Equity Partner's Broker Jones calls Our Own Bunky and Soapboxmom CAWITs!!!

    Originally Posted by jdkaiser
    Ok, First of all I just want to say that this is my final post here. I will not waste my time on this forum any longer. If any of you want to actually pick a username and PM me so that you can ask an intelligent question, I'll provide you with an intelligent answer. I've got way more important things to do with my time than sit around and read posts from someone that doesn’t know what they are talking about and is probably sitting around in his underwear in his mom's basement.

    We get that several of you don't want O C E A N S I D E to succeed. We get that! That is obvious! For some of you there will be nothing that we can say or do to ever satisfy you and we are content with that. Even WHEN we are a publicly traded company, you still won't believe. Great! Don’t invest with us! We wish you the best of luck in all of your ventures.

    We realize that there are investors out there that would walk over broken glass to invest in our black box and we also understand that we have "cheapened it" by the route that we have taken. We don't care, we truly did want to provide an opportunity for the average person to earn great returns in the Forex market. You can all go ahead and make fun of the robot all you want, the fact is this robot isn't worth $60M, it is priceless and not for sale. The original intent was to sell it for around that price to a large institution to use in-house. Also, any of you that think the negative MONTH, (not months, there was only one) in February (8.12%) is a bad thing, don't have a clue about what real investing is. You can not, I repeat can not, meaning it is impossible to do, have a positive month every single month in Forex. With that being said, what happened to us in February is something that this black box hasn't ever seen in the almost 4 years, (4 full blown hedges at once) Real investors look at quarterly performance or yearly returns though, not weekly or monthly. This brings me to my next topic...

    Just who exactly is JD Kaiser and I and am I even qualified to be doing what I'm doing? Well, I have been a business owner for the past almost 9 years. I did start out in network marketing and I have also owned a real estate investment company. 3 previous partners of mine and myself also lost 7 figures to a scam that we thought was investing in Forex over 3 years ago. This made me determined to learn more about what we thought we were investing in at the time. By the way, we were never shown any proof of actual trading, we were just excited because it had been around for a year and a half beforehand. After that happened over 3 years ago, one of my best friends, who we call Mac,(Mac owns a hedge fund by the way and don't ask which one) found a couple of programmers who built this black box. It has evolved over the last almost 4 years while running live money to what it is now with over 10 different versions, starting out with a basic stop loss system and now into the extremely advanced stages, a grid-hedging system. To answer a question earlier, no it doesn't have stop losses, it is way too sophisticated for that. . And no, the system isn't broken because we had a negative month... And no, we aren't coming out with this newer version in March because of the negative month in February. This newer version has been in development for over 2 years now! Anyway, we have members who trade themselves who have said that it is the best black box they have seen. I realize there are lots of black box systems out there and they usually do melt down the account after a few months and don't last. Not this one...

    So, am I qualified? To do what? I don't operate the black box, neither does my partner Broker Jones... We simply let it do what it was programmed to do. It's because of the relationship that we have built with these programmers over the last 3 years that we have access to the system. No, we don't own it either. We do have exclusive access to it in this arena though.

    As far as my partner Broker Jones being a scammer... This is the FIRST company that he has had ownership in... He has NEVER scammed anyone and has never been in a position that would allow him to do so!

    Transparency was extremely important to us so we decided to show twice daily webinars so members and guests can witness actual trading. (Nobody else does this by the way). This may not be good enough for you because you think that we are playing a movie or something and it is smoke and mirrors. Well guess what... We must be able to tell the future then because the world markets on our webinars are in the exact same position in real time and you can verify this by downloading your own MT4 platform and following along. For some of you this wasn't enough proof so now we have started accepting managed accounts where your money is wired directly to the broker and O C E A N S I D E can't even touch your funds. Now your concern is that you think the broker is a possibility for fraud. Well, we are in the process of adding another broker that is actually a bank, but that will probably still not be good enough for some of you. After we add the second broker we will add a third, which happens to be one of the largest banks in the world, which still probably won't be good enough for some of you. When we are a public company, we will have an independent third party company audit us as required by law. This will probably still not be good enough for some of you.

    Slowly but surely we at O C E A N S I D E are taking away everyone's objections about whether we are real or not. We are even meeting up with investors for coffee so that you can see us log into our trading account in person. PM if you would would like to set up a time to do so. For some of you, nothing that we do will ever be good enough for you and that is fine. Hey, we can't have everyone be a member of O C E A N S I D E, there would be nobody to trade against...

    There you have it folks, "my smart alec" answer.

    PS: To the anonymous guy who thinks he knows something about the IFSC, you don't but I'm sure you are fooling quite a few people on here... Oh and, AVS could provide documentation on their takeover of WSD. I could even line up a conference call and have you speak with the CEO of WSD (who is now a director of AVS). They are keeping the entities as separate brands as they are under separate regulations. New Zealand is known as the safest place for FX funds because its one of the only jurisdictions where FX is segregated and entirely guaranteed by the government (NZX). PM me if you'd like to conference.

    JD Kaiser, Founder
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    Oceanside Network & Oceanside Forex....Q&A

    You boys are having a real hard time keeping your stories straight.
    Yes, just prior to Oceanside launching in September of 2009 there was a $100 million plus offer on the table to purchase the system. Had that occured, Oceanside would not exist. The creators of the system however decided that it was in their best interest to allow Oceanside to market the opportunity via our private offer and through our Managed Accounts visible on Oceanside Forex's website. We have proprietary access to the system.
    Kind Regards,

    Broker Jones
    O C E A N S I D E President
    Scumbag, Len Clements, deleted the really informative threads about Oceanside / Broker Jones and this lone was started right before Clements was fired as an administrator and sent packing. It is fascinating to see the obvious scammers and scams that Len Clements will support. However, the point is Borker Jones claimed the offer of 100 million for the magic black box, which has never been substantiated and that offer he said came before you, JD, made this lamebrain post. How is it you didn't recall a 100 million dollar offer, JD???

    And, as to your illustrious business career, JD. I checked you out youngster. You are 27 today 10 months after that silly post. That means you went into business at 17 or 18. Unlike your brilliant partner, Broker, you apparently didn't even manage a semester of beer and sorority babes while garnering an impressive. 68 average. So, now, savvy well-heeled investors and large fund managers are going to do business with you because???

    What is all this bull about becoming a public company. You boys aren't licensed or registered to do anything in the U.S. And, the SEC requires some serious disclosure that clowns like you will never be willing to make. Man do you guys run at the mouth.

    I think your The CAWIT Cult & Other Trolls page will assure no serious investor or fund managers will ever touch you circus sideshow performers again! And, remember some of us archive everything and have an alarming habit of making detailed complaints to numerous authorities. Good luck with that! I guess a lad like you doesn't have the education or common sense to figure that out, huh JD?!


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    Scumbag, Len Clements, deleted the really informative threads about Oceanside / Broker Jones and this lone was started right before Clements was fired as an administrator and sent packing. It is fascinating to see the obvious scammers and scams that Len Clements will support.
    And why is it the erudite Mr. Clements hasn't posted nary a word in defense of Jones?

    Not a single utterance on his website or anywhere else that I see.

    BTW, a search for the terms "len clements broker jones" or "broker jones len clements" turns up some rather interesting results!

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    re: Oceanside Equity Partner's Broker Jones calls Our Own Bunky and Soapboxmom CAWITs!!!

    I wonder if those soup for brains buddies realize some of us love to archive. I saved the whole thread where Jones spouted this nonsense for instance:
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    by thebrokerjones » Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:26 am
    Bluffing?

    This part is comical as in dramatic irony because I see the numbers and the hard facts and where this is all going, but from your perspective I don't blame you for feeling the way that you do.

    One thing you will learn about me is that I don't bluff.

    To find the information we found all we did was Google Emails that people carelessly left attached to their "usernames" that were sporadically found all over the internet.

    Bruce:

    As far as you cautioning people what they post on the internet?

    You should tell that to your gang at scam.com

    I have received emails from people with IP addresses that match up with some of the posters at scam.com saying things like "we can't wait until you're in jail Broker so we can go take care of your wife and daughters and send pictures to you."

    If you think I'm bluffing?

    Re-read that above statement.

    I'm one pissed off father and husband....in addition to an angered (likely multi millionaire) business man.

    I will own that forum when I'm done.

    Like I said.

    Bring your popcorn.

    Justin "Broker" Jones
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    I can't wait to see the substantiation for those felonious allegations he has made and best of all the tax returns to prove his "likely multi millionaire" status. What a dope.

    I am yanking his chain over on the MMG forum. I bet the ban hammer will fall very soon! Fun, fun, fun!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JollyJonesy
    I will own that forum when I'm done.
    HeHehE,

    if that's what someone gets for "winning" one shudders to think what second prize would be.

    Wouldn't "owning" THAT forum make a great entry on the CV of an aspiring millio.....err....billio....err.....squillionaire forex guru ???
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soapboxmom View Post
    I wonder if those soup for brains buddies realize some of us love to archive. I saved the whole thread where Jones spouted this nonsense for instance:
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    by thebrokerjones » Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:26 am
    Bluffing?

    This part is comical as in dramatic irony because I see the numbers and the hard facts and where this is all going, but from your perspective I don't blame you for feeling the way that you do.

    One thing you will learn about me is that I don't bluff.

    To find the information we found all we did was Google Emails that people carelessly left attached to their "usernames" that were sporadically found all over the internet.

    Bruce:

    As far as you cautioning people what they post on the internet?

    You should tell that to your gang at scam.com

    I have received emails from people with IP addresses that match up with some of the posters at scam.com saying things like "we can't wait until you're in jail Broker so we can go take care of your wife and daughters and send pictures to you."

    If you think I'm bluffing?

    Re-read that above statement.

    I'm one pissed off father and husband....in addition to an angered (likely multi millionaire) business man.

    I will own that forum when I'm done.

    Like I said.

    Bring your popcorn.

    Justin "Broker" Jones
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    I can't wait to see the substantiation for those felonious allegations he has made and best of all the tax returns to prove his "likely multi millionaire" status. What a dope.

    I am yanking his chain over on the MMG forum. I bet the ban hammer will fall very soon! Fun, fun, fun!!!!!

    Soapboxmom
    LOL, I bet you're right, I can just see broke jones crying to the admins over there.

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    re: Oceanside Equity Partner's Broker Jones calls Our Own Bunky and Soapboxmom CAWITs!!!

    Remember this idiotic post?:
    05-26-2010, 08:41 AM
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    Re: Oceanside Network & Oceanside Forex....Q&A
    Originally Posted by fastmoney
    Broker , I bet I have forgotten more about business then you know, about business....
    This is an empty statement, how do you prove it? Or is this just as truthful as our 45 minute phone conversation and your attendance on our webinars?

    Please read this real slowly Broker..
    You said that the old oceanside was using the same BLACK BOX you are using now... That box earned 18% some months.. JD your partner now owned 49% of that business... Yet you are blaming this dr for taking off..
    The system had a great month......but again that was 2008 and not our current company or our current %'s. There's no further need to address this point.

    Well in business JD is just as responsible.

    Why didn't JD cut a check..
    Fair enough, but my name is Justin Plain Jones (aka Broker Jones), and I am not JD Kaiser.

    And this is Oceanside Forex and Oceanside Network not...Oceanside Wealth.

    It is to my understanding that the only person from OW that has legitimately provided JD with his deposit of $500 that wasn't paid back....will be paid back this week..if not today.

    Next subject.

    Is this law firm you are going through, your family firm that you posted about before..
    No. That is my families lawfirm Kimerer and Derrick in Phoenix Arizona. They are a criminal defense lawfirm with high profile cases and my uncle is an honorary supreme court judge. You can verify all of that yourself.

    They are not our attorneys as they are not International Finance and Business.

    We are however......very well connected, and just so you know...a suit for Libel and Slander....would cost me nothing.

    But so far so good. This discussion is fairly civil, and let's keep it that way, and we won't need to discuss legal affairs of that nature any further.

    What is the name of this big time time law firm and lawyer? Or does he want to remain silent...
    Unfortunately the last time we gave the name of one of our counsels for Oceanside people started flooding them with phone calls.....which highly irritated the lawyer.
    Because our business has so much attention from folks like yourself, we are not comfortable potentially inundating our newly acquired counsel with phone calls and emails. I can only imagine how someone such as yourself would go about wasting their time.

    Kind Regards,

    Broker Jones
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    I called his family law firm and sent them an e-mail with Broker's troll pages, this post and his latest blog entry linked. I think we all know what the question is. The answer --- litgation avoidance for several hundred thousand, Alex!

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    Remember this idiotic post?:
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    This is an empty statement, how do you prove it? Or is this just as truthful as our 45 minute phone conversation and your attendance on our webinars?


    The system had a great month......but again that was 2008 and not our current company or our current %'s. There's no further need to address this point.


    Fair enough, but my name is Justin Plain Jones (aka Broker Jones), and I am not JD Kaiser.

    And this is Oceanside Forex and Oceanside Network not...Oceanside Wealth.

    It is to my understanding that the only person from OW that has legitimately provided JD with his deposit of $500 that wasn't paid back....will be paid back this week..if not today.

    Next subject.


    No. That is my families lawfirm Kimerer and Derrick in Phoenix Arizona. They are a criminal defense lawfirm with high profile cases and my uncle is an honorary supreme court judge. You can verify all of that yourself.

    They are not our attorneys as they are not International Finance and Business.

    We are however......very well connected, and just so you know...a suit for Libel and Slander....would cost me nothing.

    But so far so good. This discussion is fairly civil, and let's keep it that way, and we won't need to discuss legal affairs of that nature any further.


    Unfortunately the last time we gave the name of one of our counsels for Oceanside people started flooding them with phone calls.....which highly irritated the lawyer.
    Because our business has so much attention from folks like yourself, we are not comfortable potentially inundating our newly acquired counsel with phone calls and emails. I can only imagine how someone such as yourself would go about wasting their time.

    Kind Regards,

    Broker Jones
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    I called his family law firm and sent them an e-mail with Broker's troll pages, this post and his latest blog entry linked. I think we all know what the question is. The answer --- litgation avoidance for several hundred thousand, Alex!

    Soapboxmom
    I wasn't following Just Plain Jones back then but I do have a question... Just exactly what is an "Honorary" Supreme Court Judge...? Is that anything like Andy Bowdoin's supposed Congressional medal?

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    No. That is my families lawfirm Kimerer and Derrick in Phoenix Arizona. They are a criminal defense lawfirm with high profile cases and my uncle is an honorary supreme court judge. You can verify all of that yourself.
    How come there aren't any Jones' listed with Kimerer & Derrick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soapboxmom View Post

    No. That is my families lawfirm Kimerer and Derrick in Phoenix Arizona. They are a criminal defense lawfirm with high profile cases and my uncle is an honorary supreme court judge. You can verify all of that yourself.

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    I called his family law firm and sent them an e-mail with Broker's troll pages, this post and his latest blog entry linked. I think we all know what the question is. The answer --- litgation avoidance for several hundred thousand, Alex!

    Soapboxmom
    I can hardly wait untill that Law Firm answers your E-Mail! broke Who??? Supreme Court Judge Who?????

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    Broker has a brand new post on his blog today. I took the liberty of archiving it on my site. Oceanside Strikes Back is sure to be a cult classic. "May the Farce be with you," he declared.

    Every episode of Scammer Wars starring Soapboxmom has been a winning one for me, lad. How do you think your episode Oceanside Strikes Back is going to end, Broke Boy? I think my Schwartz is bigger than yours!


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    Oh, yes I did, Mr. Incredible Bulk and outerspace superhero, star of Scammer Wars and Stock Balls. I went over your helmet. I sent out e-mails to around a hundred media contacts, including some I have helped with previous stories and then I hit more enforcement agencies. You seem desperate for attention, so you and Gain Capital are going to get all the coverage I can muster! Good luck with that!!!

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    The office of the local public prosecutor, the state attorney general, and the state securities administrator. Someone in the location courthouse should be able to give you names, addresses and phone numbers. If the mails are used in promoting or operating a phony investment scheme, federal Postal Inspectors want to know about it. The postmaster in your community can put you in touch with them. Fraud involving any form of interstate commerce is also of interest to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The nearest office should be listed in your phone directory. Sure it can take some time, effort and possibly expense to check out an investment proposal thoroughly, but if you have any doubt about whether it’s worth the trouble, talk with people who didn’t and wish they had!
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    Arizona's Corporation Commission Securities Division might like to hear more about this as well. I took the liberty of contacting them!

    Arizona Corporation Commission:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soapboxmom View Post
    Forex Scam - what to consider to prevent forex and commodity fraud
    Contact Regulators

    The majority of individuals and companies offering investments to the public are subject to some sort of regulation—and may be subject to multiple regulation. Those which trade in futures contracts and options on futures contracts are regulated by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, a federal agency, and by National Futures Association (NFA), an industry wide self-regulatory organization authorized by Congress. NFA maintains a database of futures-related disciplinary information which investors can access by calling the Disciplinary Information Access Line at 800-676- 4NFA. You also can conduct background checks by accessing NFA’s online Background Affiliation Information Center (BASIC) or NFA’s web site www.nfa.futures.org. In the securities and securities options business, the federal regulatory agency is the Securities and Exchange Commission. By contacting the appropriate regulatory organization, you can generally find out whether the firm or person is properly registered to engage in that type of business and whether any public disciplinary actions have been taken against them. Write or phone law enforcement agencies. Whether or not a person or firm is subject to the scrutiny of a regulatory organization, the fact is that fraud is against the law in every state of the nation. And if it involves interstate commerce including the use of the mails or phone lines—federal criminal statutes apply. If an investment sounds suspicious, check with the appropriate agency. They may be able to furnish information or conduct an investigation of their own.
    The following are some you could contact:

    The office of the local public prosecutor, the state attorney general, and the state securities administrator. Someone in the location courthouse should be able to give you names, addresses and phone numbers. If the mails are used in promoting or operating a phony investment scheme, federal Postal Inspectors want to know about it. The postmaster in your community can put you in touch with them. Fraud involving any form of interstate commerce is also of interest to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The nearest office should be listed in your phone directory. Sure it can take some time, effort and possibly expense to check out an investment proposal thoroughly, but if you have any doubt about whether it’s worth the trouble, talk with people who didn’t and wish they had!
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    Arizona's Corporation Commission Securities Division might like to hear more about this as well. I took the liberty of contacting them!

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    If I remember correctly, Postal Inspectors have a wide jurisdiction, but they definitely do investigate mail and wire fraud. Here is their on-line complaint form:
    https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/f...Complaint.aspx

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    Forex.com with their new representative Oceanside / Broker Jones has gone "Beyond Borders" all right! This fascinating video should showcase their space happy boy in his new Scammer Wars outfits on his Oceanside Strikes Back blog. What role is Bill Schneider going to get in ongoing saga?

    How long is it going to take Glenn Stevens, the compliance department and crack legal team to shut this Jones character down. Do we have to wait for the Razzie Awards ceremony?

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    Hmmn,

    one wonders if Lucas Licensing the holders of the Star Wars franchise know about Oceansides' usage of their images.

    Might be worth a quick email or two letting them know how their well known brand is being bastardized on the Oceanside Strikes Back blog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Hmmn,

    one wonders if Lucas Licensing the holders of the Star Wars franchise know about Oceansides' usage of their images.

    Might be worth a quick email or two letting them know how their well known brand is being bastardized on the Oceanside Strikes Back blog.
    LRM, you never cease to amaze me by thinking of things outside the box.

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    05-25-2010, 09:40 PM
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    Re: Oceanside Network & Oceanside Forex....Q&A
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    Originally Posted by fastmoney
    I see you have been on at least twice since asking us to ask questions and you would be happy to answer them, I have a few more if you do not mind answering..
    I will be happy to answer all of your questions.
    What is the fee alertpay charges you? 5%, 6%.. It must suck for a legit biz like Oceanside to have to dig themselves out of that hole from day 1.. Isn't it?
    The fees are passed on to the membership when they make purchases. Oceanside has been profitable since day 1. (We do realize these fees..."suck"....but we hope the returns we are producing are a "consolation".)
    Again, we are literally spending the money to initiate the NZ Bancorp early next week. Once this is set up, and we have our software in place, as well as our KYC process in order, we will be able to accept bank wires, and while there will still be a bank wire fee, we anticipate it being much lower than Alertpays fees.
    (Alertpay does perform KYC for us at this time......which is why we use them.)
    Why is it that I find that a lot of hyip forex black box companies go through alertpay, oddly though, some of them go through banks in New Zeland.. Where is your new bank supposed to be?
    Alertpay handles KYC for us, while we were able to establish ourselves corporately and prepare for our NZ Bancorp.
    Actually we explored several options for our bancorp including Panama, Belize, Cook Islands and New Zealand.
    If you do a little research you will find, just as we did, that NZ is the most favorable and respected environment for a bancorp at this time.
    I'm not concerned with what "other companies" are doing.......
    Why did you stop the network marketing aspect of the business?
    GREAT question! And my answer will include several reasons.
    1. It was bulky, cumbersome and complicated to administer it within our business model. (keeping track of autoships etc)
    2. As much as we initially liked the concept, we were more often than not...running into high end investors who were very interested in Oceanside but once you mentioned MLM (in any capacity) they rolled their eyes.
    3. With the continuing evolution of our business model, we felt that our target market was steadily becoming more sophisticated and that MLM was not conducive to the image we wanted.
    Are you suing all the people from the other threads on the web for slandering you by calling Oceanside a scam? Why not? Why wait? As I have seen I am small potatoes compared to some of the sites about you and oceanside..
    We will see. There is only so much time in any given day and right now I feel our discussion has become civil, and I don't really hold grudges. Shall we continue?
    So when you and jd were with oceanside,(before as you claim, you guys took over, when they were claiming 18% per month and from the link above 10% plus per month+) Why didn't you list that as one of the hyip programs you were in, in your list? What happened to their black box? Why the need to shut it down and reopen it?
    Oceanside Wealth was not an HYIP...and it was the exact same blackbox.
    Had the original 51% owner Dr. Kumar Singh of Gilbert Arizona....not been completely inept at running a business.....that company would be thriving now.
    But all things happen for a reason and anyone who is a part of Oceanside Network or Oceanside Forex can and will testify that the two companies are like Night & Day.
    I see that you and JD gave the webinars for the old oceanside.... humm...
    http://www.worldlawdirect.com/forum/...e-scam-15.html
    Yep, we sure did.....and JD was part owner. 49%.....which meant he had no control.
    I was nothing but someone who believed in the product and was pitched a great game about how all of my time and effort would be worth it. (even though I wasn't being paid for it)
    In the end.... it was ironically worth it. Because I was able to build relationships with the head trader, and the programmers who were also extremely disatisfied with Dr. Kumar's handling of the company.
    They unanimously gave me the blessing to re-structure and re-launch the company as the President.
    I decided to keep the name because I'm not here to try and pull a "fast one".
    I and my current partners spent 2 years developing the current model and as I previously mentioned the results speak for themselves. Like night and day..
    Kind Regards,
    Broker Jones
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    Those are all your words, Broker. Do you family member lawyers work in the area of litigation avoidance? To put that into words you may find more familiar -- shut the %^&* up might suffice. You just wrote that the black box you are using now was in development for two years and is in fact the same one used in Oceanside Wealth. In the Oceanside Wealth videos here in part 4 you claimed 10% - 30% returns a month. Now, we have you in black and white saying it is the same box. If those returns were happening how come you are constantly retooling this thing and have now gone to Gain Capital begging them to take clients for you to use as guinea pigs for your black box? If those returns were legit you would be overrun with offers for 100s of millions of dollars for this box. I don't believe for a second that your current account at Gain is making the 10% - 30% a month returns you have been touting for your magic black box. Hmmmmm...... Gain Capital's Bill Schneider indicated to me you hadn't brought him a single customer yet. Let us know how those accounts do with your black box when you get an actual customer. Thanks!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Haskell View Post
    LRM, you never cease to amaze me by thinking of things outside the box.
    George is probably not going to offer Jonesy millions to make that sequel!!!!!

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    Broker quoting you and your partner is proving to be endlessly amusing!
    05-27-2010, 10:41 AM
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    Re: Oceanside Network & Oceanside Forex....Q&A
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    Originally Posted by fastmoney
    Len I asked for your opinion on Oceanside.. Asking for your opinion on oceanside is now bashing... Got it...
    Is asking if you are having a good day a banable question? I just need a starting point..
    Both hope and lady mod gave their opinion... I guess you are above giving opinions now..
    Have a good day Len..

    I think zero oversight is right..

    You are exempt.. got it..
    You are not registered, don't need to..got it..
    Finally... Glad you finally understand now!!
    If that is the case.. why are you having your people sign a paper stating that they are sophisticated investors then?
    IT APPLIES TO US INVESTORS ONLY: They are agreeing that they are either a "sophisticated investor" or they are able to sustain the risk of the investment... Exactly what is required in section 4(2).
    You guys have really hit the lottery here, seems to me.. God himself came down and touched you two on the shoulders.
    We consider ourselves extremely blessed that we have what we have.
    You don't have to register anywhere..
    You do not have anyone looking over your books...
    Again, we are hiring an independent 3rd party auditor
    You can publicly advertise anywhere...
    Only managed accounts are publicly being advertised which is perfectly legal and done EVERY DAY!
    You can use a "broker" that is a small outfit with mailbox etc locations...
    Our main broker is now WSD Direct, out of New Zealand and has been in business since 1999. No mail box etc addresses, just a physical address in Auckland, New Zealand
    You can use a payment prosessor that every scam in the world uses.. (I really like how you said you think you are the only legit forex trader on alertpay)
    Again, Managed accounts are direct bank wire to the broker...
    AlertPay is the only option for our private offer.
    Glad you like it because it's probably true ;)
    Then he gave you the holy grail.. A black box that will almost gurantee profits in the forex.. One that you said, less than 50 people in the world have.. Wow...
    We have never said "almost guarantee profits" Stop putting words in our mouthes!
    Guys... You have a good little pitch going.. Most naive people might fall for it..
    It is one of two things.. You guys are the most naive guys in the world,(to believe your own BS) or you really think you can skate the law.. and get away with it...
    Again, there is no law skating here...
    Maybe it will work for you..
    But did you not learn anything from the madoff and his black box, and the alan stanfords, etc..
    Yes we absolutely did and that is why we prove to the WORLD 10x a week twice a day we really are trading and are hiring our independent 3rd party auditor, unlike an in-house one as your example above used.
    You may get away with it for a while, but it always ends...
    There is nothing that we are trying to get away with here.
    BTW: If you think the majority here believe your little charade, you would be 100% wrong...
    it's obvious that most of you don't here and were ok with that
    Also, I realize how much you two hated that last thread.. It must suck that thread came up everytime someone googled you.. Good play griping and moaning and having a mod here delete it.. and sorry I am the one that pushed the issue to have a new thread started... So I cost you a million on one hand and now I guess I am trying to cost you another..
    And there is your agenda... good to know
    Oh well..
    This is my last post on here. We have been more than willing to show proof of what we have and nobody here is willing to take a look. I think you know deep down inside that we really do have what have here and frankly you are jealous! As I mentioned before... There aren't 50 people on this planet that are able to produce the returns that we are. People have to start somewhere. Bill Gates started in his garage and asked 5 of his friends to help him. 3 said no and guess what... The other 2 are BILLIONAIRES right now.
    Oceanside had to start somewhere too
    what a great name by the way: O C E A N S I D E

    This has been an absolute waste of our time...again.

    God Bless you all. I hope you find your purpose in life that God truly has in store for you. We have found ours...

    JD Kaiser
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    If that was the case you boys wouldn't be on every forum on the planet flapping in a desperate effort to sign up somebody ... anybody that had $250 dollars. You would be billionaires yourselves if your black box did as you claim. But, alas, here you sit arguing with a college degreed educator and housewife. Broker, your responses are in red. Unfortunately for you Len Clements is banned and that thread won't be removed instantly at your request. Really moving on up in the business world, aren't we boys??? Gain Capital has to be so impressed with your advertising efforts. WSD blew up as I recall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laidback View Post
    I wasn't following Just Plain Jones back then but I do have a question... Just exactly what is an "Honorary" Supreme Court Judge...? Is that anything like Andy Bowdoin's supposed Congressional medal?
    ROTFL! There is no such thing in our Judicial system as an Honorary Supreme Court Judge. Where does he get this bullshit? The Supreme Court of the United States has nine justices: one Chief Justice and eight Associate Justices. Period. What is really amazing is the b.s. that he posts all over the net and actually thinks anyone believes this utter tripe. Man, talk about delusional. He needs meds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Bunkum View Post
    How come there aren't any Jones' listed with Kimerer & Derrick?
    No kidding! Kimerer and Derrick, P.C. - Law Firm in Phoenix, Arizona (AZ) - Lawyers.com

    and they do not just practice criminal law:

    Kimerer and Derrick, P.C. - Law Firm in Phoenix, Arizona (AZ) - Lawyers.com

    No history of any Jones with this firm either:

    Kimerer & Derrick, PC. Firm History

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