Thread: Bayshore Capital Investments and the BH Group

Originally Posted by pjlvio

GlimDropper I was just wondering if you had read the U.N. and IMF Documents on Iraq and the 8 year plan that Iraq has been following. I was also wondering if you have heard or seen Shabbi's speech to congress last year and earlier this year. Do not really have an opinion either way as of yet, still looking into the facts and not all the BS. I have emailed breitling a few times and he never really seems to give me any straight answers, I think he is pretty much just a front man who just takes orders. Just trying to see your take on the Documents put out by the U.N. and IMF on Iraq pretty telling information if you ask me and these Documents are fact not made up. Thank you!

Greetings pjlvio,

I've read a decent amount of "guru chatter" and sometimes it flat out amazes me. It's hard to know where the talking out of their asses stops and the outright lies begin. Sometimes it flat out hilarious how stupid some of the things they say really are when it helps their sales pitch. I recall Rudy saying the Iraqi Dinar just had to "RV" to similar value to the Kuwaiti dinar because if it didn't then the oil Iraq sells would be soo much cheaper. Um, the number of dollars a barrel of oil costs isn't affected by the value of your local currency, unless your local currency is the US dollar. The truly sad and vaguely frightening thing is that gurus like Rudy say things that stupid nearly all the time and no one calls them on it. I think Breitling understands exactly how a redenomination works but if he told the truth about it he couldn't sell lower denomination dinar on eBay for a profit.

Honestly, please folks stop going to people like Okie, Blano and Breitling for financial advice. If your doctor told you that you need surgery but should get a second opinion would you go to someone claimed to be an expert but didn't have any form of medical training and the only name he'd give you was something like "Scooter?" No, you'd go to someone who actually had training (and could prove it) and someone who was actually licensed to practice medicine. Now I've always believed health was more important than money but I still refuse to purchase investments or investment related advice from someone without professional credentials.

From this post over at DV:

My husband and I have been invested since december '10. We live in the toledo area, and have gotten nearly ALL of our dinar from the another site. Most tmes dealing with Brad himself.
So, when my husband saw this, he called the office and was connected to Brad immediately and was told by BH that when 5/3rd stopped selling, it wasn't by choice. They and apparently everyone dealing in dinar, including another site, were given a cease and desist notice. Brad said his lawyer told him that they could sell what they had in inventory, but could not IMPORT more.
Unfortunatley, the FBI didn't agree. Brad Told my husband that he was not charged with anything, but they took his dinar in stock, catalogued it and said it would be returned to him BUT as personal property, not to be sold to investors.
Brad and his team have been very professional and accessible to us.

Brad's lying. There's someone here who can tell you more about why 5/3rd bank stopped selling dinar but it wasn't do to any cease and desist order. 5/3rd wasn't holding weekly calls telling people that the dinar was a fantastic investment opportunity, Brad was. Brad had a Money Service Business (MSB) registration but NOT a license to market investments. Look at it this way, it is legal to accept a fee for exchanging dinar for dollars. It's legal to hold internet confrence calls saying all manner of ridiculous things about the dinar being an amazing investment. But if you do both of those things at the same time they can bust your ass (this includes you Roger Dorman).

Brad has a sealed indictment filed in court with his name on it. They don't need to tell him what's in it until they actually press charges and don't expect that to happen anytime soon. Dinar sales are shut down and all of Brad's buisness and banking records are under a microscope. The feds will take as much time as they need to get Brad to answer any questions they have and many of those questions will be about Brad's buisness partners. Rudy may not have had that knock on the door, yet. But by the time he does the people asking him questions will already know the answers. Sucks to be you Rudy.

Glimdropper you did not answer my question, have you read the U.N. and the I.M.F. documents on Iraq and the 8 year plan that they laid out for Iraq? You can find them pretty easily, if you need the links let me know and I will send them to you. Did you also know that in the I.M.F. and U.N. Documents they both state a revaluation? I'm not claiming it to be like all the so called "Guru's" state, but in fact the I.M.F did recommend to Iraq anywhere from .86 to $1.28 per Dinar this you can also find by going to I.M.F's website and pulling up the Iraq documents. This is not a scam, it will happen eventually, no one really knows when or how much. I was in Iraq and Kuwait when the Kuwait Dinar revalued, it was funny to see how many politicians were prevy to this, I saw it with my own eyes and knew of various people who had made a lot of money from it, I did not, because, I like you, did not believe in it then. There were banks here in the U.S. who sold the Iraq Dinar for years up until recently, and even now there are a few were as you can still order some. The whole problem with this, is that our government really did not want this event to be public knowledge, the RV of the Iraq Dinar, it was supposed to happen just like the Kuwait revalue. The only problem is it was leaked out some how and now you have what you have. Do you not think our own government would not put out disinformation and say this event is a scam? If it were why then did our own banks here in the states sell Iraq Dinar? Why did the U.S. take delivery of Iraq Dinar for American Dollars? Why is there U.N. and I.M.F. Documents pointing to this event with Iraq? I do not believe a single word any of the "Guru's" say or claim, but I do believe what I read in the U.N. and I.M.F. documents and I do know that our government did in fact ship many pallets of U.S. dollars to Iraq in exchange for the Iraq Dinar. I encourage you to read the documents before you answer my question. I then want what your take is on this. Thank you. Pete