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    Another Secret Investment with Strict NDUs. MillionaireMentors LOL

    Private Investment Group - FORMING!
    10/10/2012 3:21:13 AM
    Hey All,
    We are opening up our "private" investment group to new members. This is REAL and we have a plan in place to take you to the next level of earnings you have NEVER experienced before.

    HOW...do we do that?

    I have (2) millionaire mentors that are sharing their proven methods to us as well as placing us into "hidden" investments that the normal public never get a chance to be in.

    These investments are so powerful they have the ability to retire ANYONE within 1-3 years. This is not peanuts for income either. We are talking about $25,000 / month to start then build up to $200,000+ / month within 8-12 months.

    That's just the beginning!

    We have "other" secret programs that are run by private organizations as well as the Fed Reserve that build wealth exponentially within 3-5 weeks.

    These program are the same that the ELITE in society use and now we have a chance to build up a HUGE nest egg that's comparative to what others make in a lifetime within a few years.

    This is VERY very limited and we will not speak to anyone unless they agree to a NDA...period!

    If you want in we are talking to prospective new member until Oct 15th, 2012. At that point this is completely closed down to the general public.

    Thanks...

    Source of secret information
    type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2571437/Private-Investment-Group-FORMING.aspx?flag=1

    Announced by a self proclaimed US government agent.

    type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/14638/List-All-Your-Biz-Sites-Here.aspx

    What a joke. Does anybody remember how Vee and Mara induced people to sign NDU's which made some people think they were valid. IGNORE THIS CRAP

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    Re: Another Secret Investment with Strict NDUs. MillionaireMentors LOL

    Isn't the poster of that "investment group" ad this fellow? (copied from his signature on MoneyMakerGroup in a cash gifting thread)

    Wil Peterson
    301 W. Vermont Ave #313
    Escondido, CA 92025
    (760) 294-8164
    wilp2001@yahoo.com

    Professional failure, if you ask me. He couldn't invest his way from grade school lunch money to high school lunch money, from what I've seen of activity on various "financial" fora over the years. I've wondered at times how his jewelry-making hobby stays afloat, and guess that it's his better half who is the breadwinner in this family. Of course that's only a guess on my part.
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    Re: Another Secret Investment with Strict NDUs. MillionaireMentors LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins View Post
    Isn't the poster of that "investment group" ad this fellow? (copied from his signature on MoneyMakerGroup in a cash gifting thread)




    Professional failure, if you ask me. He couldn't invest his way from grade school lunch money to high school lunch money, from what I've seen of activity on various "financial" fora over the years. I've wondered at times how his jewelry-making hobby stays afloat, and guess that it's his better half who is the breadwinner in this family. Of course that's only a guess on my part.
    Surely looks to be the same. He has a bite though.



    RE: Private Investment Group - FORMING!

    10/11/2012 12:40:50 PM
    I would like to know more about that.
    What is the minimum investment?
    Can I sign up for free and then decide?
    Don Evans
    Don't get ripped off!! Stay informed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scratchycat View Post
    Surely looks to be the same. He has a bite though.

    RE: Private Investment Group - FORMING!

    10/11/2012 12:40:50 PM
    I noticed that "scratchy" Don Evans, Scamland's Genius Funds promoter is NOT A GENIUS. He is a Scamlander and well known as a pimp at RealScam

    Genius Funds.

    The fraud is promoted all over Scamland by lying little scam artists like Kathleen Vanbeekom.

    See her scummy biz opps forum. The audacity of that woman knows no bounds.

    type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/14638/List-All-Your-Biz-Sites-Here.aspx

    "Private Investment Group - FORMING! By Wil Peterson. 10/11/2012 12:40:50 PM. By Don Evans."

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    HenryHiggins at it again!

    Accusing others of a crime w/o any merit.

    Yes, I do run an investment group and we invest in education, digital products, software, gemstones, etc.

    Is that a crime to ask for a NDA when you have a good idea that others "like yourself' will post for the world to see (& steal) due to not having enough brain cells to think of it yourself...NO!

    Before you accuse someone of any crime be ready to show PROOF of that crime...otherwise be ready for lawsuits for slander, etc.

    Wil Peterson

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    Re: Another Secret Investment with Strict NDUs. MillionaireMentors LOL

    PS.
    I'm already looking into who runs this board and will submit my demand to remove personal information due to it being used as a way to slander me without evidence or otherwise anything credible showing a crime has been committed.

    The ability to talk sense into someone like HenryHiggins is not only a dream it's an illusion. Are you that angry and out of productive things to do then to attack people without merit?

    I guess so!!!

    Wil Peterson

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    Re: Another Secret Investment with Strict NDUs. MillionaireMentors LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by willing1 View Post
    HenryHiggins at it again!

    Accusing others of a crime w/o any merit.

    Yes, I do run an investment group and we invest in education, digital products, software, gemstones, etc.

    Is that a crime to ask for a NDA when you have a good idea that others "like yourself' will post for the world to see (& steal) due to not having enough brain cells to think of it yourself...NO!

    Before you accuse someone of any crime be ready to show PROOF of that crime...otherwise be ready for lawsuits for slander, etc.

    Wil Peterson
    When can this be expected? I want to make sure I have plenty of popcorn while I read through Discovery documents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willing1
    otherwise be ready for lawsuits for slander,
    How excellent.

    I guess you're ready for the discovery phase of any and all lawsuits you bring.

    I'd be particularly interested in how advertising you will be "opening up our "private" investment group to new members" on a publicly available forum keeps said investment group "private" and whether or not you conform with the Securities Act of 1933 and the U.S. Investment Company Act of 1940

    U.S. Investment Company Act of 1940

    Private investment funds are not subject to U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission ("SEC") registration as mutual funds, because they rely on one of the two exemptions from such registration found in Sections 3(c)(1) and 3(c)(7) of the U.S. Investment Company Act of 1940 (the "1940 Act").

    Section 3(c)(1)

    A privately offered fund (see discussion below relating to private placements under the "Securities Act of 1933") that has no more than 100 beneficial owners (generally, in the case of non-U.S. funds, only U.S. beneficial owners need to be counted) is not required to register as an investment company under Section 3(c)(1) of the 1940 Act (and is referred to as a "3(c)(1) fund"). In a 3(c)(1) fund, when counting beneficial owners, there will be a look-through to: (i) the underlying investors of any fund-of-funds, other passive investment vehicle relying upon Section 3(c)(1) or Section 3(c)(7) (discussed below) or registered investment company owning 10% or more of the 3(c)(1) fund, (ii) those participants of any self-directed pension plan that have individually elected to have their plan monies invested in the 3(c)(1) fund, and (iii) the owners of any entity formed for the purpose of investing in the 3(c)(1) fund (i.e., if 40% or more of the entity's assets are invested in the 3(c)(1) fund). There may also be an "integration" of the beneficial owners of other 3(c)(1) funds that have similar investment objectives. Note that a husband and wife who are investing jointly in a 3(c)(1) fund will only count as one investor, as will a person who invests in his individual capacity and through an IRA.
    Section 3(c)(7)

    A privately offered fund in which each investor is a qualified purchaser (generally, an individual with $5 million or more in "investments" or an entity with $25 million or more in "investments") is exempt from registration as an investment company under Section 3(c)(7) of the 1940 Act (and is referred to as a "3(c)(7) fund"). "Investments" is broadly defined by the SEC and includes securities, cash and cash equivalents, real estate held for investment purposes, and many other items; however, when calculating investments, any acquisition indebtedness must be deducted. While there is no explicit investor limitation in Section 3(c)(7) (such as the 100 beneficial owner limitation found in Section 3(c)(1)), in order for a 3(c)(7) fund to avoid being considered a "reporting company" under relevant U.S. securities laws, it should have no more than 499 investors.
    Knowledgeable Employees

    Certain persons who are executive officers of the fund or its manager or who participate in the investment activities of the fund are "knowledgeable employees" and need not be counted for purposes of the 100 beneficial owner limitation under Section 3(c)(1) and need not be "qualified purchasers" under Section 3(c)(7).
    U.S. Securities Act of 1933

    As mentioned above, private investment fund interests must always be offered and sold on a private placement basis.
    Generally, such an offering will be made pursuant to the "safe harbor" private placement requirements of Regulation D to prospective investors with whom there is a substantive pre-existing relationship. No form of general solicitation or advertising may be used, such as cold calls, use of the media, public interviews or password-free websites. Typically, the offering is made only to "accredited investors", which essentially means individuals that have at least a $1 million net worth and entities that have at least $5 million in total assets. Subject to other applicable legal requirements, the fund may also have up to 35 unaccredited investors, all of whom should be financially sophisticated.

    Separately, Regulation S provides another exemption for the private placement of securities outside of the U.S. Under Regulation S, the offer and sale must be made to a person outside of the U.S. and the seller must not engage in any "directed selling efforts" in the U.S. Typically, Regulation S is relied upon in connection with the private placement of a non-U.S. fund to non-U.S. investors.

    U.S. Investment Advisers Act of 1940

    Many private investment fund managers are exempt from registration as investment advisers with the SEC because they have fewer than 15 clients over a 12-month period and do not hold themselves out to the public as investment advisers (e.g., no advertisements in the yellow pages or newspapers, no password-free websites). For this purpose, a private investment fund generally counts as one client, as does each separately managed account.

    If a private investment fund manager is registered as an investment adviser with the SEC, it will, among other things: (i) have to file and periodically amend a Form ADV, (ii) be subject to periodic SEC audits, (iii) be permitted to charge performance fees only to those clients who represent that they are "qualified clients" (generally, a $1.5 million net worth; however, in the case of a 3(c)(1) fund-of-funds or similar fund investing in the fund, each of the investing fund's investors must meet this criteria), and (iv) need to adopt various procedures and policies, including procedures relating to its custody of client funds, proxy voting and insider trading. As discussed in further detail below, individual states may require investment adviser registration, even if the manager is exempt from SEC registration.

    U.S. Commodity Exchange Act and related U.S. National Futures Association Rules

    If a private investment fund utilises any type of futures (including single stock futures), even if just for hedging or on a de minimis basis, U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission ("CFTC") registration of the fund's manager as a commodity pool operator and, possibly, commodity trading adviser may be required. The CFTC registration requirement would also apply to the managers of: (i) non-U.S. funds with a U.S. jurisdictional nexus (such as those funds with a U.S. manager, U.S. director(s) and/or U.S. investors), and (ii) funds-of-funds that invest in other funds that trade in futures. Forward contracts, swaps, certain synthetic derivatives developed by prime brokers and stock index options generally are not considered futures.

    Among other things, CFTC registration usually requires the passage by certain management personnel of a Series 3 exam, unless the commodity trading is limited and done solely for hedging/risk management purposes, in which case a waiver from the examination requirement may be sought. CFTC registration also imposes various reporting, recordkeeping and disclosure obligations, which may, to some degree, be mitigated, if the fund is able to rely on the exemptions provided by CFTC Rule 4.7 (i.e., all of the investors in the fund are "qualified eligible persons", which essentially means accredited investors with a $2 million securities portfolio) or Rule 4.12(b) (i.e., essentially, the fund limits its futures exposure to no greater than 10% commodity futures margin and premiums, but the fund's investors do not have to meet the Rule 4.7 criteria). A Rule 4.7 fund would not have to file a disclosure document with the CFTC, while a 4.12(b) fund would have to make such a filing, although there would be less disclosure required in a 4.12(b) fund's disclosure document than in a disclosure document for a fund that could not rely on Rule 4.12(b).

    A manager may, however, seek registration relief if:


    1. it is a non-US manager trading only non-US futures;
    2. the fund's participants are accredited investors, knowledgeable employees and certain family trusts formed by accredited investors and the manager claiming this exemption operates the fund such that it meets one of the following trading limitations (whether or not for hedging) at all times: (1) the aggregate initial margin and premiums required to establish commodity positions will not exceed 5% of the liquidation value of the fund's portfolio after taking into account unrealised profits and losses on any such positions (provided that with respect to an option that is in-the-money at the time of purchase, the in-the-money amount may be excluded in computing the 5%) or (2) the aggregate net notional value of such positions will not exceed 100% of the liquidation value of the fund's portfolio after taking into account unrealized profits and losses on any such positions;
    3. 1) each fund participant that is a natural person is a "qualified purchaser" (generally, a person owning investments of not less than $5 million), knowledgeable employee (including principals of the manager) or a non-U.S. person and (2) each fund participant that is a non-natural person is either a "qualified eligible person" (generally, owning a securities portfolio of at least $2 million), an accredited investor (generally, having assets in excess of $5 million) or a non-U.S. person or entity. There is no trading limitation under this exemption; or
    4. in the case of a fund-of-funds manager, it can meet the requirements set forth in (ii) or (iii) above, noting that the CFTC has adopted Appendix A to Part 4 of its Rules illustrating how the trading limitations in (ii) above would apply to a fund-of-funds manager.

    Also of relevance, U.S. National Futures Association ("NFA") Compliance Rule 2-38 requires all commodity pool operators and commodity trading advisers to establish a written contingency plan and to provide the NFA with emergency contact information.


    Customer/Client Information Requirements

    Various rules have been passed by the SEC, FTC and CFTC requiring disclosure to certain U.S. clients of the firm's privacy procedures, whenever a new client relationship is established and on an annual basis thereafter. A paragraph outlining such procedures may be added to the fund's subscription agreement and such policy must also be given out on an annual basis. The privacy rules are applicable to registered and unregistered investment advisers, as well as commodity pool operators.

    The FTC has also adopted a related rule requiring all financial institutions, including private investment funds, to adopt a written programme which contains administrative, technical and physical safeguards appropriate to their situation to protect the security, confidentiality and integrity of customer information from unauthorised disclosure, misuse, alteration or destruction. The programme should, among other things, designate a coordinating employee and identify foreseeable internal and external risks. Moreover, service providers dealing with such information (e.g., administrators) will have to contractually agree to comply with the rule.

    Anti-Money Laundering Requirements

    Since the passage of the USA PATRIOT Act in late 2001, there have been various regulatory proposals relating to anti-money laundering made by the U.S. Treasury Department ("Treasury"). On 18 September 2002, the Treasury issued a proposed rule governing all Section 3(c)(1) and 3(c)(7) private investment funds that: (i) have $1 million or more in assets, (ii) are organised under the laws of the U.S. or any state therein, organised, operated or sponsored by a U.S. person, or sell ownership interests to any U.S. person, and (iii) permit their owners to redeem interests within two years of their purchase. While most hedge funds would be covered by the rule, most private equity funds and venture capital funds would be exempt. The proposed rule requires that, within 90 days following the publication of a final rule, funds covered by the rule must implement a written AML programme "reasonably designed to prevent the company from being used for money laundering or the financing of terrorist activities". Each institution will be expected to tailor its programme to fit its particular business, taking into consideration its size, activities, location, risks and vulnerabilities. The four required elements of an AML programme would include the: (i) development of internal policies, procedures and controls, (ii) provision for independent testing, (iii) designation of a compliance officer, and (iv) establishment of an ongoing employee training programme. Moreover, the proposed rule also contains a requirement that a fund files a notice with the Treasury no later than 90 days after it first becomes subject to the rule. The notice must include certain information about the fund, the fund's manager, sponsor and compliance officer, total assets under management and the number of investors in the fund.

    On 31 December 2002, the Treasury, the U.S. Federal Reserve and the SEC issued a joint report to the U.S. Congress pursuant to the USA PATRIOT Act with respect to private investment funds that recommends: (i) adoption of the above rule and (ii) requiring all covered funds to establish customer identification and verification programmes.

    While final action is still pending as of the writing of this chapter, many private investment funds have already begun to adopt anti-money laundering programmes in anticipation of final rules, and in response to similar rules affecting their funds passed in other jurisdictions and/or rules that may be imposed on their fund by fund service providers who are themselves subject to their own anti-money laundering requirements.

    U.S. Tax Considerations

    Depending on the fund's jurisdiction, the location of its manager, the location and tax status of its investors, as well as the securities and other instruments that the fund is trading, there may be pertinent U.S. tax issues that will need to be dealt with, including, without limitation, structuring the management companies and the funds, making "check-the-box" elections, providing tax and other information to certain investors, determining trader/investor status, establishing fee deferral arrangements for the manager, dealing with applicable tax shelter regulations and many other items.

    State and Local Issues

    Blue Sky Filings

    Private investment funds making offers and sales to U.S. investors will need to comply with applicable state "blue sky" laws. Generally, a state blue sky filing will need to be made within 15 days after the first sale of a fund interest in each state (other than New York, which requires a filing before the first offer), and a one-time filing of a Form D will have to be made with the SEC after the first sale by the fund. Non-U.S. funds will also be required to make blue sky filings with regard to their U.S. investors. Amendments to such filings may be required if material changes occur or as otherwise may be required by the applicable state's law. A number of states (e.g., Florida, New Jersey, Colorado, Illinois) have de minimis, institutional investor or other exemptions; however, before relying on any such exemptions, counsel should be consulted.

    Investment Adviser Registration

    There are also state-specific rules that may require state investment adviser registration, even if the manager is exempt from SEC registration, especially where the manager's principal office is located in such state. While many states have de minimis or institutional investor exemptions, in a number of states (e.g., Texas), registration will virtually always be required.

    Taxation

    A manager needs to also be aware of the tax issues in the state in which it and/or the fund is located, both at the state and local levels. An analysis of such issues may result in a different structure for the fund and/or its management vehicles.

    The naming of and meeting the two "millionaire mentors" will be a wonderful opportunity, as well.

    Looking forward to it.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: Another Secret Investment with Strict NDUs. MillionaireMentors LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by willing1 View Post
    HenryHiggins at it again!

    Accusing others of a crime w/o any merit.

    Yes, I do run an investment group and we invest in education, digital products, software, gemstones, etc.

    Is that a crime to ask for a NDA when you have a good idea that others "like yourself' will post for the world to see (& steal) due to not having enough brain cells to think of it yourself...NO!

    Before you accuse someone of any crime be ready to show PROOF of that crime...otherwise be ready for lawsuits for slander, etc.

    Wil Peterson

    Wil, what ARE you talking about?
    I posted in this thread one time, was not the original poster, and merely identified who had posted the subject which the OP had brought up. Along with my personal opinion of your marketing skills. Where did you get the idea you were being accused of a crime? Look all over Realscam at posts where I did point out someone breaking the law, and you will see that I supply much, much more data in those cases. Not a simple check to confirm who was under discussion.

    Now that you've started this, though, I may go back to re-publish some of your less than shining moments. Such as being the "Program Director" of a chain letter scheme with a strong resemblence to John Busser's "Priority Wealth" scheme that the Postal Inspection Service shut down. Or your advertising claim of "$650,000.00 Within 45 Minutes – This is REAL – How YOU Can Duplicate That!"
    If you are in Prosper With Integrity, and do not like that your personal information has been published here, please talk to these good people: http://www.attorneygeneral.gov http://www.ic3.gov http://www.fbi.gov

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    How excellent.

    I guess you're ready for the discovery phase of any and all lawsuits you bring.

    I'd be particularly interested in how advertising you will be "opening up our "private" investment group to new members" on a publicly available forum keeps said investment group "private" and whether or not you conform with the Securities Act of 1933 and the U.S. Investment Company Act of 1940



    The naming of and meeting the two "millionaire mentors" will be a wonderful opportunity, as well.

    Looking forward to it.

    This is what his "private" group gives as their SEC filing. Hardly a private MLM, isn't it?

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    Re: Another Secret Investment with Strict NDUs. MillionaireMentors LOL

    Henry,
    I have NO problems with you and we agreed before on many things.

    YES...I did try to start a mail order program with real "how to" reports on cd and there is evidence to that fact online.

    YES...I did follow people in which I should NOT have as I found out later they were operating nothing more then pyramid schemes only. My mistake and one I am not proud of!

    YES...I do run a private investment group but it's NOT private due to illegal operations or anything. It's private due to the too many people stealing my ideas to create some stupid program about making fast money. (As I said before I lost lots of money with these fools and at first believed what they said to be true.)

    I won't mention names here as I myself do NOT want to slander others but I can tell you many people call me asking if this program or that program is real and most if not ALL are scams..nothing more.

    So I was just upset with you (or whomever) because you put me in a group in which I'm against...not for!

    I make wire jewelry, run a private group that invests in many things, and teach mind science.

    As for following SEC Guideline - we are not traded to the public or have any holding in public.

    SEC Disclosure Laws and Regulations - Encyclopedia - Business Terms | Inc.com

    So, as for my comment - it's not against anyone other then people who accuse me of wrong without merit or knowing me.

    I commend you on your efforts and we are fighting the same war.

    Wil

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    Also,
    I do NOT own Get Fundraiser. That's owed by JR Watkins. They have an SEC Verification Filing, are in good standing with their COC, and also follow all FTC Guidelines.

    Fundraiser 1.0

    We just created their team website for them and help with support.

    Wil

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    Re: Another Secret Investment with Strict NDUs. MillionaireMentors LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by path2prosperity View Post
    Private Investment Group - FORMING!
    10/10/2012 3:21:13 AM
    Hey All,
    We are opening up our "private" investment group to new members. This is REAL and we have a plan in place to take you to the next level of earnings you have NEVER experienced before.

    HOW...do we do that?

    I have (2) millionaire mentors that are sharing their proven methods to us as well as placing us into "hidden" investments that the normal public never get a chance to be in.

    These investments are so powerful they have the ability to retire ANYONE within 1-3 years. This is not peanuts for income either. We are talking about $25,000 / month to start then build up to $200,000+ / month within 8-12 months.
    How do they know that somebody's "next level of earnings" is $25,000/month? Maybe the next level for a person is just $12/hour. Or maybe the next level is $50,000/month.

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    Re: Another Secret Investment with Strict NDUs. MillionaireMentors LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by willing1 View Post
    PS.
    I'm already looking into who runs this board and will submit my demand to remove personal information due to it being used as a way to slander me without evidence or otherwise anything credible showing a crime has been committed.

    The ability to talk sense into someone like HenryHiggins is not only a dream it's an illusion. Are you that angry and out of productive things to do then to attack people without merit?

    I guess so!!!

    Wil Peterson
    Why is it that all you, "I'm gonna sue" types can't seem to remember the difference between "slander" (spoken) and "libel" (written"? Also I don't remember an actionable category of "etc"!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Quote Originally Posted by willing1 View Post
    PS.
    I'm already looking into who runs this board and will submit my demand to remove personal information due to it being used as a way to slander me without evidence or otherwise anything credible showing a crime has been committed.

    The ability to talk sense into someone like HenryHiggins is not only a dream it's an illusion. Are you that angry and out of productive things to do then to attack people without merit?

    I guess so!!!

    Wil Peterson
    I just love it when the scammers themselves turn up here acting all hurt & seeking justice & stuff.

    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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