Thread: Vincent Wright Calls Soapboxmom a Troll in Defense of Tim Darnell of Advantage Conferences a Serial Scammer

Originally Posted by okosh

Does he have a vacancy at his forum for a troll??.....If yes I'd like to apply for the position but I don't have the forum address.....

www.mylinkingpowerforum.com.

Soapboxmom

Vincent Wright's troll post about me hasn't garnered a single response from the LinkedIn group where he originally posted it. Good thing he will get plenty of reaction here! He needs serious lessons on online safety and how to check out members, potential employees, recruits and opportunities. He can learn so much here from a troll.

Soapboxmom

Please note I did not post on Vincent's forum. I joined in order to give him a heads up about something. I then found an e-mail address and sent him some info that way. Since he accuses me of trolling, I must demand he put the offensive posts up in quotes and refute what I posted. Perhaps, he will enjoy this:


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Vincent, hunt down those trolls:


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His desperate attempt to draw attention to himself resulted in his 9,346 followers ignoring his ignorant rant and not commenting!

Soapboxmom

One wonders what Mr Wright did, or does, to attract that number of "followers"

Run a competition ???

Offer prizes ???

Give recipes ???

9000+ inquisitive people wondering what the hell a "brandergist" is or does ???

Heaven forbid someone might accuse him of somehow fudging the numbers.

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Vincent Wright Shutting Down MyLinkedInPowerForum


By Scott Allen, on January 3rd, 2007

UPDATE: I noticed the other day that this post is still attracting a lot of traffic. FYI, due to popular demand, Vincent changed his mind, and MLPF is still very much alive and well (as of April 2008).
Vincent Wright, the founder of the MyLinkedInPowerForum Yahoo Group and 150 or so niche spin-offs, announced Monday that he will be shutting down MLPF:

I want to inform you of my decision to bring MLPF to a conclusion 40 days from today, on this coming February 9, 2007.
That date will complete one of the most interesting and fulfilling 2 year periods of my life.
I’ve had a chance to get to know you as good men and women and I’ve learned and learned and learned – a lot. I cannot put into words how good I feel about what I’ve learned from you.
In turn, I hope that I’ve helped some of you to look more closely at the power resident in Linkedin. And there’s plenty of power, there. It is filled with people – all of whom are focused on business. And that, as Martha Stewart would say, is “A good thing”.
At the same time that I’ve learned invaluable lessons from interacting with you and thousands of other people from all around the world in all manner of industries, there is also a cost to carrying MLPF.
That cost is beyond my personal means to carry, alone.
Though I can still see many things more to do with MLPF, I need to focus on improving my personal prosperity. And if I attempted to carry MLPF too much further, I’d starve – and that’s not nearly as much fun as you may think!
Bottom line: Realistically, this grassroots effort can no longer be done alone and it certainly can’t be done alone AND for free.
And, at this time, I’m compelled to admit that I’ve been unsuccessful in my efforts to successfully fund the group’s grassroots work. (Though unusual work, it IS work.)
Thus, I’m choosing to end my work with the group(s), 40 days from today, on February 9, 2007. On that date, I hope to be able to tell you in detail about my next step.
While I’ve not made a final decision as to how to close the group(s) or what to do with them, as I prepare proper steps to do so, I also have to prepare for other pursuits.
So, I’ll be limiting my work with the groups to just 2 hours per day for the next 40 days.
I hope and pray that this will have only a negligible impact on you. But, again, I must prepare for other pursuits. (I’d also like to socialize a bit more! )
I hope you will join me in celebrating the friendships that we have made and the business that has been done via MLPF.
I hope that we’ll also celebrate MLPF as one of the useful types of community things we can do in this ever evolving virtual world that has become so important to us.
Though we weren’t always on topic, we, nonetheless, generated over 19,000 messages thus far. Those messages aren’t just text. They are interactions. People interacting with people – expressing concerns, addressing issues, solving myriad problems, and celebrating some successes. If your time permits, you ought to spend a little time looking through the MLPF Archives before February 9th.
Now, with an ever increasing number of good groups and blogs which can help the general Linkedin user benefit from the power resident in Linkedin, I’m confident that this is a good time to make such a decision, and a good time for me to direct my focus more narrowly on projects that I’ve held in abeyance over the past 2 years.
Before closing, I want to sincerely thank each of you for your support, your friendship, your incredible knowledge, and your very thoughtful counseling in making meaning with MLPF.
I also wish to publicly thank the great Moderators for their time and thoughtfulness and for lending their names to me in this highly intriguing virtual project. For that, I thank them sincerely. I thank them deeply. I thank them relentlessly.
Of course, I still intend to run my mouth with those members among you who are my close friends. So, you’re not totally off the hook from me, yet!
In closing: I wish you and yours the very best of the best in 2007 and beyond.
Keep strong and let’s have a great time learning from each other and maximizing our personal opportunities with MLPF over the next 40 days…
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Vincent Wright just said it all himself. He was losing his shirt running a little forum of 5000 members. It was the same darn thing he is currently doing on the forum listed above. Legions of MLMers, wannabee life coaches and business coaches, cash gifters, HYIP enthusiasts etc. get together and chat. The vast majority of them never make any money. It turns out to be a complete waste of time for most. Certainly, getting one's name out there to promote one's legitimate business is part of normal advertising.

Silly social networking forums are often just another fad that allows the top reps and experienced cons a place to recruit the unsuspecting for their various MLMs, cash gifting schemes, HYIPs and other questionable business deals. Vincent of course thinks anyone that warns and informs the public is a troll, so God only knows who he has on his forums. His members would be wise to be check out their fellow members and come to places like this and seek out the research and knowledge of us trolls!

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Originally Posted by littleroundman

One wonders what Mr Wright did, or does, to attract that number of "followers"

Run a competition ???

Offer prizes ???

Give recipes ???

9000+ inquisitive people wondering what the hell a "brandergist" is or does ???

Heaven forbid someone might accuse him of somehow fudging the numbers.

Twitter is one of the dumbest things to come along in some ways. It seems to be a contest to get the most followers and to follow the highest number of people you can add for some. Many well known scammers have tens of thousands of followers. I think most find it is a waste of time to try and advertise there. Check out Twitter tons of tweets about nothing and then absolutely nothing when Broker quickly abandoned it. Robert Kiyosaki's Twitter page is even more followed and more useless.

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Since he doesn't seem to be checking things out and when given accurate information via e-mail doesn't research any further, but immediately decides the messenger is a troll how would he know if he is putting the right people together?

1000 forums and blogs. We can see where that got him. His online complaining he is hard up and can't afford to fund a small online community is pathetic. He said they were all celebrating some successes. What successes??? He is spending all his time trolling forums and doesn't appear to have have much of anything to show for it except incurring the wrath of Soapboxmom.

Soapboxmom

He is spending all his time trolling forums and doesn't appear to have have much of anything to show for it except incurring the wrath of Soapboxmom.

Soapboxmom

Which makes him highly unlikely to win this weeks' "sharpest crayon in the box" award, now does it ????

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

Twitter is one of the dumbest things to come along in some ways. It seems to be a contest to get the most followers and to follow the highest number of people you can add for some. Many well known scammers have tens of thousands of followers.
Soapboxmom

As an interesting sidelight to your comment about social media.

A Facebook page set up to discuss Pippa Middletons' derriere has attracted 24,000 followers in under 48 hours following her appearance at her sisters' wedding to Prince William.

Hardly what I would call a potential marketplace for the latest MLM product, I would think and DEFINITELY not worth paying some shark for advice on how to become involved.

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To exhaust a troll...

Let's face it:
1. Few of us are completely immune from being attacked by trolls
2. Even fewer of us have a ready made suite of tools for effectively and completely dealing with trolls. (While, as a real-world objective this may seem like a fantasy objective to pursue, it stops feeling like a fantasy the day that a troll shows up at YOUR doorstep...putting YOUR reputation and your business at risk...)

The reason I'm starting this particular discussion here on Reputation 2.0 is that I've just had someone try to join one of my forums with the apparent specific objective of wanting to disparage one of my long-term, well-behaved members.

According to the target of the troll, the person seeking to join my forum is "not an ex-girlfriend, ex-customer, nothing"... merely a person who seems to get their kick out of pulling down the reputations of select people.

To some, trolls like this can be intimidating...not much different than being online bullies..

Few of us know how to thoroughly exhaust a troll...but, oddly enough, in taking a cursory look at the reputation of the troll, her own reputation leaves a lot to be desired and a lot of angry people in her wake... others have already blasted her unfairness...but...alas..that hasn't been sufficient to stop her...

Have you ever had to deal with this issue?

Do you have any good strategies to exhaust a troll?

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Even before any of you have had a chance to respond to my post,the "troll" is writing me about this very post...

Virtual sickness is such an intriguing malady to witness...

Perhaps we can band together and turn this into a business opportunity??? Let's create something called "TROLLAIDS"! (Now, there's an inexhaustible business opportunity if ever I've heard one! LOL :))

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Nick Braak • Understandably you are defensive, hence the name-calling and labeling this person as sick etc. etc. That's a mistake. Try and stop the back-and-forth. If there is a legitimate issue about a member address the substance of the claims and not the style or the provenance of the messenger. Investigate. Don't post when angry or upset. IOW, be professional and keep your cool, so as not to further fan the flames.

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Yes, why is Vincent Wright hassling my elderly family members instead of honestly sharing with everyone who the cast of characters is. I sent him a private e-mail for a heads up for his benefit and the protection of his members. I did not post on his site at all. So, what is Vincent's meltdown and drama all about? I suspect he will never come forward and discuss anything, because he doesn't want his members to know who he associates with and supports.

I e-mail potential victims and those with information I desire frequently. Many respond and thank me for contacting them. Others will not respond. Not too many turn into raving lunatics and start threads like that ridiculous one on LinkedIn where he accuses me of trolling. Now I think he will be deluged with lots of questions. This will be fun to watch!

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Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 19:30:23 -0400
Subject: Re: A surprise is on its way to you...
From: Vincent@VincentWright.com
To: soapboxmom@hotmail.com


It's too late, Heather...


Since you put this up, http://www.realscam.com/f11/vincent-...mom-troll-691/ ...there's nothing I can do to stop your surprise...


By the way: ........, the people at ...... are not at all surprised to have been contacted today...they've heard from others about you and the mindless fighting you can't stop engaging in...


You won't stop and neither will I...


You'll soon see that some people are absolutely, 100% as relentless as you are...



SO, just try to live with it...


No negotiation, no NOTHING...


REMEMBER: YOU chose to bring me into a matter that has nothing to do with me...AND...you CHOSE to try to harm me, my name, and my business...http://www.realscam.com/f11/vincent-...mom-troll-691/



You did the wrong thing, the wrong way, to the wrong person so..


Goodbye, Heather...

This person contacted the wrong police department about me. Any report he filed has apparently been thrown in the trash can as it was a frivolous filing. That police department had no record of anything related to me. The number that had been used to call my elderly relative was one of the police departments numbers I was told.

I would caution everyone to be very concerned about this man, his forums and the members therein. This is very disturbing behavior. Remember he posted a public thread about me on LinkedIn which is archived here. I responded very reasonably in kind here.

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Individuals should not have to fight trolls alone...

Everything that a troll does is processable.

For our purposes, troll behaviors will be categorized around the following:
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If you've ever been negatively impacted by a troll or know someone who has been, I strongly encourage you to join "Power Against Trolls"

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Check out the tags this Vincent Wright put on his post! "civil, criminal, law suit, local police, murder" are the tags he used and precisely why his group should be removed from Ning.com. This idiot contacted the wrong local police department and an elderly relative of mine was hassled. He then bragged about it to me. He is a very sick, disturbed indiviual I have to conclude as he is making bogus police reports. I had no choice but to block him from e-mailing me due to the harssing and threatening nature of his e-mails.

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Check out the tags this Vincent Wright put on his post! "civil, criminal, law suit, local police, murder" are the tags he used and precisely why his group should be removed from Ning.com. This idiot contacted the wrong local police department and an elderly relative of mine was hassled. He then bragged about it to me. He is a very sick, disturbed indiviual I have to conclude as he is making bogus police reports. I had no choice but to block him from e-mailing me due to the harssing and threatening nature of his e-mails.

He has a whole slew of worthless groups and blathering members:

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Permalink Reply by Vincent Wright 2 hours ago Thanks for sharing this, Gregory...I may have a few contacts who may have an interest in your services so, I'm featuring it here and sharing it on my Facebook wall, as well....do let me know if I can ever be of specific help, ok?

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Permalink Reply by Gregory Bell 1 hour ago Thank you Mr Wright. I appreciate your assistance in marketing my company, and I will include you as a resource.

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Permalink Reply by Vincent Wright 1 hour ago Happy to be included as a resource, Gregory...(but, please feel free to call me "Vincent", ok?)

Super-quick question: Do you work with Police Departments in bullying/harassment/trolling matters? (Don't need the specifics at this point but, I'd like to include you in a database of resources I'm building for our little group here called "Power Against Trolls" http://mylinkingpowerforum.ning.com/group/PowerAgainstTrolls )

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Maybe this gentleman better dump Vincent Wright and put his energy into doing some legitimate work. Now, we can see where Vincent started his talk about the bogus police report he filed. Why not go after some real felons and ferret out who is behind www.heatherdobrott.com! I already contacted him to give him the inside scoop about Vincent!

Soapboxmom

Vincent Wright and his new group should be addressing the real criminals out there from www.heatherdobrott.com:

So again, we will just say that Heather, it is in your hands to end this. If you want to pursue this further by legal means, we say, bring it on! But there is a simple way to avoid this, and you know what it is. Until then, we will continue to post more photos and other Heather Dobrott related materials here for all to enjoy.....

She makes empty accusations and then threatens to have a judge look into who runs this site. That’s hillarious! She really thinks she can get someone to tell her who owns this site! Like anyone cares about the online reputation of a person who spends their life tearing down the reputation of others.

Heather, in case you dont get it yet, like we’ve explained so many times before, you are getting a dose of your own medicine. Except, we are being more honest here than you have ever been. If you want to take us to court, by all means, BRING IT ON! We’d love to show a judge all the slime, lies and half-truths you have spread all over your scam site. Funny thing is, we doubt he’d make us remove our content without you having to remove yours. So again we say BRING IT ON!

Vincent asked Gregory Bell:

Do you work with Police Departments in bullying/harassment/trolling matters?

Great! Then the folks in that group should be reading www.heatherdobrott.com and assisting the police in completing its investigation on that. I have had various nuts all over the internet accusing me of sending death threats, rape threats and stalking them or the lunatic followers make such hideous false criminal allegations. Let's go shut those guys down!

I have thousands of pages for you, Vincent, but in the meantime, folks might want to read more about that law in Texas:

http://www.realscam.com/f16/online-h...law-texas-271/

I have never had a judge tell me to remove anything. The only thing that will be disappearing are the felonious postings of scammers I do believe. No doubt Vincent Wright has been contacting Gregory Bell inquiring about exactly that.

Soapboxmom

What is it with these backyard lawyer types like Mr Wright ???

Can't afford to back off and "lose face" ??

Surrounded themselves with sycophantic "yes men" and are being badly advised ??

Allowing their ego gland to overrule their common sense ???

Addicted to seeing their name in print, no matter the circumstances ???

What young Vince needs is for his mum to drag him home by the ears and tell him to behave himself or he'll get no TV for a month.

Geez, mate, get over yourself.

What a nonsense.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

What is it with these backyard lawyer types like Mr Wright ???

Can't afford to back off and "lose face" ??

Surrounded themselves with sycophantic "yes men" and are being badly advised ??

Allowing their ego gland to overrule their common sense ???

Addicted to seeing their name in print, no matter the circumstances ???

What young Vince needs is for his mum to drag him home by the ears and tell him to behave himself or he'll get no TV for a month.

Geez, mate, get over yourself.

What a nonsense.

LRM,

Would you believe he is 60 and lives in an apartment in Hartford, Connecticut. He might want to read these:

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Texas Penal Code - Section 37.08. False Report To Peace Officer Or Law Enforcement Employee

§ 37.08. FALSE REPORT TO PEACE OFFICER OR LAW ENFORCEMENT
EMPLOYEE. (a) A person commits an offense if, with intent to
deceive, he knowingly makes a false statement that is material to a
criminal investigation and makes the statement to:
(1) a peace officer conducting the investigation; or
(2) any employee of a law enforcement agency that is
authorized by the agency to conduct the investigation and that the
actor knows is conducting the investigation.
(b) In this section, "law enforcement agency" has the
meaning assigned by Article 59.01, Code of Criminal Procedure.
(c) An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994; Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 925, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1997.

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Filing a False Police Report: A Little White Lie or Serious Crime?

Either because of the poor economy or a variety of personal crises, more people are finding themselves in tight situations. Desperation often tempts people to do desperate things, like filing a false police report. However, filing a false police report is not a solution to personal problems, and it may in fact be the quickest way to make a bad situation even worse because of additional criminal and civil consequences for doing so.

People who claim to be victims of crimes when they are not or otherwise file a false police report may find themselves facing criminal and civil penalties, including fines and possible jail time

Filing a false police report can lead to multiple criminal consequences. Most states have a charge called "false report to a peace officer." Depending on where you live and the extent of the deception, the criminal charge can either be a misdemeanor or a felony. Cases that cause less inconvenience to police and other authorities tend to be classified as misdemeanors, while people who create greater confusion or harm by filing a false report may face felony charges.
For example, you might file a false police report claiming that your vehicle was stolen, when in fact you ditched the vehicle somewhere hoping that it would never be found and that your insurance company would pay off your car note. In that case, not only did you commit the offense of filing a false police report, you also picked up an additional charge of insurance fraud or hindering a secured creditor.

Even though these two additional charges stem from civil transactions, they can turn into felony charges as a result of your filing a false police report. If your false report resulted in you obtaining control of property that was not yours, you could also be charged with theft by deception. If you signed an affidavit under oath in connection with filing the false report, you may be further charged with criminal perjury or tampering with a governmental record. It's easy to see how filing a false report can quickly spiral out of control and result in a variety of criminal charges.

Beyond the possible criminal charges, there can also be civil consequences to filing a false police report. If you filed a false complaint on another person which resulted in their being arrested and/or losing their jobs, you can be held financially liable for defamation. Your insurance company may also file a civil claim against you to recover its damages for paying on a false claim resulting from you falsely claiming your car was stolen. People or companies who are harmed by your false report are not limited to a certain type of remedy. This means you may find yourself defending a civil and a criminal suit at the same time. The bottom line is, despite how desperate your situation is, filing a false police report is not the answer and doing so can have long-term financial and criminal consequences. If you do file a police report and you later learn that information you provided was incorrect, contact the originating agency as quickly as possible to correct your mistake. The longer you wait, the more it will look like you were intentionally trying to deceive someone by filing a false police report. To protect yourself from being charged with filing a false report, it's best to stick with the simple principle of "tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth."

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Vincent Wright opines:

Isn't it about time mean people went back out of style? (Most really aren't that talented & just pollute otherwise nice human environments.)

I take it then that he will remove his posts calling me a troll, apologize for filing a false police report and actually read what folks e-mail him. I take it he and his forensic investigator friend Gregory will be investigating the real trouble makers online! Vincent had better clean up his act. Ning says those kinds of activities violate their terms of service and he could see his forum shut down due to the activity of him and its members.

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Vincent Wright answered:

Q: Finding a job and/or finding an ideal candidate has definitely changed over the last decade with the rise of LinkedIn, Facebook, Monster.com, and many other online tools. How did you see that affect your own efforts in the IT and executive recruitment space?
A. Though corporations have the same access to them as we do, the advent of Linkedin, Facebook, Twitter, and other such social media tools is a great benefit to those Recruiters who use them the right way. The right way is not using tricks but, rather, interacting with professionals who see you as a human being and not as a trickster... Professionals get to KNOW their doctors, barbers, hairdressers, etc. so, I like for professionals to get to KNOW ME...Both on the candidate AND client side, those who are comfortable with me as a person, quite often will turn to me as a professional to help them with them employment needs... I encourage other recruiters to consider this approach, as well.

Vincent thinks he can know someone he has met online. These strangers on the other end of an online interaction should be viewed as tricksters until thorough background checks confirm they are who they claim to be. Court records, credit records, internet postings, police records, employment history and education history should be obtained and verified. Vincent is in the current kerfluffle with me precisely becasue he has no idea who he is interacting with online. He calls legitimate consumer advocates trolls and valiantly defends indiviuals he knows nothing about. The height of ignorance and arrogance. In the real modren world we can't take things at face value. Research!!!

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Do you have any good, workable, and/or enforceable strategies for dealing with trolls such as the classic troll here; http://www.realscam.com/f11/vincent-...mom-troll-691/

I've just had someone try to join one of my forums with the apparent specific objective of wanting to disparage one of my long-term, well-behaved members.


The person seeking to join is "not an ex-girlfriend, ex-customer, nothing"... merely a person who seems to get their kick off of pulling down the reputations of others.

To some, trolls like this can be intimidating...not much different than being online bullies..

Oddly enough, in taking a cursory look at the reputation of the troll, her own reputation leaves a lot to be desired. Others have already blasted her unfairness...but...alas..that hasn't been sufficient to stop her...

Have you ever had to deal with this issue?

Do you have any good strategies for effectively dealing with such trolls?
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Keep deleting her posts...
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If you are the moderator then you keep deleting her posts, send her a warning message asking her to moderate her behaviour or you will ban her. You should be able to disable her account to prevent her from posting. You could set up a spam button so that people can report the spam to you (spam can be a troll) and you could place an ignore button on your forum so that forum members can click that button and they will not be able to see the troll's posts. Trolls get bored if they don't get any attention so try not to feed it. I have listed a website that has spam and ignore buttons to use during troll attacks.
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The best strategy is one offered by William Shakespeare when he wrote

"This above all: to thine own self be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man."

That means while your detractor opts to create numerous identities they cannot reveal themselves. You on the other hand must not be tempted to respond in kind and present yourself always as who you are.

In a strange way, this kind of attack where the aim is to discredit you, can also work in your favour. Our example, speaking out about corruption and neglect within institutionalised childcare drew more attention than otherwise would have been given, which eventually led to others speaking out, until mainstream media confirmed our truth.
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You specify "my forum[]", so I assume you are in control of the forum.

Is there any reason you don't simply disable her account? That tends to stop the trolling, at least until the person creates another, at which point you disable that one, too. Rinse, repeat. Eventually, the troll gives up.

You may also need to complicate the account creation process so that it requires that new members "write a statement about why they want to join". This works better with spammers than with trolls, but if a troll gets only one post in per long, tedious sign-up vetting, they'll eventually give up too.

Do kindly remember that "freedom of speech" is an issue of government control, not of private business or private association. If someone joins your community with the intent of disrupting it, you are not obligated to give the person free rein.
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Certainly, if this person has posted unsubstantiated and disparaging remarks about someone, they could be well on their way to a defamation suit. Then again, you'd need to determine what assets, if any, are available to satisfy your judgment, should you prevail. No use enduring all the hassle and expense if there's nothing to grab.

Depending on where your troll resides, the law may be on your side as well. Perhaps a call to the police agency closest to where your troll resides along with a copy of their postings would be enough to trigger a visit from them to advise the individual in question to "knock it off."
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Let me clarify by saying the "you" may not be you as the owner of the site - but the person being defamed.

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That lying and apparently delusional man is complaining about me all over the internet. Again, I never posted on his forum. I only registered in order to message him about a problematic member he has. I found a way to contact him on activerain and I wrote him that there was no need to approve my membership. His two threads about this on the Reputation 2.0 on Linkedin were removed and he may lose his forum on Ning.com.

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Steve Maziarz should have read everything in the thread that Vincent Wright linked before he gave him any advice. He encouraged that delusional man to go to the police and file what was nothing more than a false report. If he had read here he would have known I never posted on Vincent's forum. He also would have known that Vincent had issues on his forum that he was not addressing according to the terms of service that Ning.com has published and assures me they do enforce.
Please email helpcenter@ning.com with this reference ref:00D8cCLt.5004FBfdC:ref and ask them to enforce their terms of service and ask them to clean up or remove Vincent's forum, MyLinkingPowerForum.com - Brandergy on Ning!.

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Are you concerned about your privacy when you're online? I'm curious as to whether you think it doesn't matter or whether you just don't care or whether you do care, but don't think there is anything you can do about it.

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Permalink Reply by Vincent Wright 19 minutes ago For me, Doug, it's not a question which leads directly to a "yes" or "no". I say that that way because:

1. We know that the Internet, itself, is notoriously porous...even the original Internet architects can't seriously say that it is a good medium for privacy. And, yet, with that being said,

2. What privacy we *DO* have, I want it for myself and for the members of my groups/forums. (I say that in context of differentiating between A.) accidental slips of privacy violations and B.) bullies/trolls/sloths who intentionally get your personal information.)
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As one of those trolls you refer to, I hope your members get information about one another that will keep scam artists and cons from emptying their pockets on your forums. Open forums are excellent places to find unsuspecting warm marks. Anyone who is online should not be expecting privacy and should be well aware that they can't be sure who they are meeting out in the internet world. Extreme caution is necessary!

I assume Vincent would be against the trolls on www.heatherdobrott.com putting up the personal information of elderly relatives of mine so that they would he needlessly harassed by goons like him that file false police reports for instance.

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