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    re: Ronnie Branch....god fearing or scammer?? Shaklee Scam

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    Ronnie J Branch Laurel, MD (North Laurel)

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    Spartanburg, SC • College Park, MD

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    Good Steward at The Lords Champions

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    Ronnie J Brach

    Relatives
    Apparently, the business, "The Lords Champions" is nothing more than a figment of Ronnie's imagination. He brags of it on LinkedIn and Whitepagesdotcom picked it up as we can see here. Ronnie is a total failure that has wasted his life on one MLM scam after another taking down many innocent people with him.
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    re: Ronnie Branch....god fearing or scammer?? Shaklee Scam

    Guest Blog: The Biggest Consumer Fraud You Didn’t Know About - Multilevel Marketing — Workman Forensics

    Guest Blog: The Biggest Consumer Fraud You Didn’t Know About - Multilevel Marketing











    by Tracy Coenen
    Tracy has been investigating fraud for more than 20 years, but she didn’t always want to be a forensic accountant. With a dream of one day being a prison warden, Tracy went to Marquette University in Milwaukee, WI to get a criminology degree. A class on financial crime investigations reminded her how much she loved Encyclopedia Brown books as a kid. She continued her criminology degree, but added accounting and economics courses so she could sit for the CPA exam… and here Tracy is, finding money in cases of corporate fraud, high net worth divorce, and other financial shenanigans.

    Let’s talk about the reality of multi-level marketing. MLMs are nothing more than pyramid schemes that our government allows to operate. When you participate in an MLM, you do not own a business. You’re not an entrepreneur. You are involved in a pyramid scheme in which almost everyone loses money. The behaviors are cult-like. And you will NOT be successful with MLM, so don’t bother trying to recruit your friends and family.

    Multi-level marketing continues to thrive, and you can see the evidence all over Facebook, Instagram, and other social media. Several of your friends are inviting you to their party or they are posting staged before and after pictures and leaving cryptic messages that say “ask me how!” They often will not mention the name of the product they’re pushing, because they know they’ll lose you as a potential recruit if you Google the product before they can fill your head with lies about how good the product is.
    Which companies are we talking about? Some of the most common names heard are Amway, Mary Kay, Herbalife, Avon, Isagenix, Legal Shield, doTerra, Market America, and Shaklee. But there are literally hundreds of these companies. Just about any company that shows you a product and then offers you an “opportunity” to buy the product at wholesale and/or make some money selling to family and friends is an MLM. Look for keywords like opportunity, compensation plan, sharing (“we don’t sell, we share!”), independent, and recruiting.

    How prevalent is MLM? In the United States, between $15 billion and $30 billion is sucked out of the economy by multi-level marketing predators each year. You’ll hear MLM pushers say that this is an inaccurate characterization, as the money was used to buy products. Yes, some of the money went toward the products, but the products are overpriced and the quality is no better than what you could get in a drugstore or big box store. Distributors are wasting money on these products because they are buying more than they can ever sell or consume. And they do this because they must meet certain minimums to qualify for paltry commissions in the schemes.
    Promoters will tell you that MLM is perfectly legal, so there is nothing wrong with getting involved. But just because the law doesn’t stop these companies from operating doesn’t mean they’re any good. Even though 99% of participants lose money in multi-level marketing, consumers still get sucked in by the millions.

    People are lured in by the recruitment practices which have been perfected over the decades. New recruits are drawn in with personal connections and they’re made to feel important. These personal relationships are leveraged throughout the participation in the MLM, and they are used against the distributors when they try to get out. People don’t want to lose their friends and they will often continue to lose money in the MLM scheme instead.

    Multi-level marketing companies are based on endless chain recruitment. They live or die based on the ability of distributors to constantly recruit more people. They make you think the MLM is about selling products, but it is not true. The products are used to make the schemes look like legitimate businesses, when the bottom line is that it is all about recruiting. Recruits don’t realize how quickly an area can get saturated from the recruiting activity. It’s inevitable when the participants are encouraged to recruit anyone and everyone.

    Maybe the biggest problem with MLM is that no matter how hard you work, you are almost guaranteed to lose money. MLM supporters will claim that those who lose money just didn’t work hard enough. That’s not true. Simple math guarantees that almost everyone will lose money.

    You can only make money if large numbers of people are recruited below you. That necessarily precludes almost everyone from making money, because they can’t recruit into infinity. As the pyramid below you gets wider, the new participants added have an even smaller chance of making money because there aren’t enough people in the world for everyone to make money.

    No matter what your recruiter tells you, you aren’t going to make money. Those people bragging that they make money? Almost all of them are lying. They inflate their gross income, leave out business expenses, and otherwise flat out lie to you about making money. Of course they’re going to say they are making money. They are trying to suck you into doing what they’re doing. If they told you they were losing money, you wouldn’t join.

    Here’s the bottom line: Recruiting others to recruit others into MLM is not a business. You are almost guaranteed to lose money. It’s not fun, and your friends and family don’t want to participate. Since our government won’t stop MLMs from operating, the only answer is to educate consumers so they avoid these scams.
    To learn more about Tracy and her work visit: www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles
    Tracy is a much valued colleague and I can't imagine anyone that could say it better!
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    Re: Ronnie Branch....god fearing or scammer?? Shaklee Scam

    Shaklee Pyramid Scam Plus Bo Short Info

    Product-Based Pyramid Scheme?

    When people are recruited into Shaklee's pyramid-like MLM, or "Product-Based Pyramid," they are given a sense of hope and excitement with unusual stories about Shaklee retailers who became "wealthy and independent" by marketing to their family and friends. Reality check: Read a post that the FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION published about Shaklee. Why do so many websites ask if Shaklee is a scam?

    We found evidence that Shaklee has propogated the internet with sites that claim to discuss the "Shaklee scam debate" and find in favor of Shaklee. Read a new legal threat to two of this page's contributors from Shaklee lawyer, Marjorie Fine, here. They are ready to pay for legal action to surpress the speech rights of their victims, with their victim's money. Will courts take this request and the money behind it seriously enough to entertain a case against victims' rights to speech and whistle-blowing? Because of the "discovery process" we hope so.

    We cannot emphasize enough that while all the victims we know lost everything they invested, Shaklee does NOT meet the legal definition of a pyramid. MLM Expert, Dr. Jon Taylor has found that they might be even more destructive, but no matter which definition you like, keep your money in your pocket. This site is here to protect you from losing it. They lobby regulators and lawmakers and they threaten victims who speak out about their experience, as evidenced here. Research shows that young people are particularly vulnerable to their upbeat sales pitch but the group lures people of any age with charismatic and likable recruiters that seem to radiate Shaklee success. Fast forward to the outcome and you can often find victims of Shaklee feeling cheated and down several thousand dollars after having isolated themselves from friends and family with the company sales pitch routine. Victims of social marketing scams almost always end up with fewer friends and less money than when they joined. According to many, that is the reality of Shaklee.
    Sleazy MLMs love to make lawsuit threats. Anything to hide the truth and keep the money from the warm marks on the bottom of the towering pyramid tricking up to the originators and goons at the top of the pyramid.

    Shaklee "Scam" Risks

    Anyone who subjects him or herself to spending an amount of time listening to a pyramid or multi-level-marketing scheme is susceptible to its well-crafted blend of facts and distortions. A Pyramid scheme aka scam works by combining claims of positive results with charisma and distorted evidence. Generally speaking, the more a person needs money and financial freedom, the more susceptible he or she is to losing both to a pyramid scam. Is Shaklee a scam? The truth may be that it's not about selling products, but about convincing your friends and family to buy-in to the company and become retailers under you. As you might guess, they will have to do the same and so it' may not be about selling anything at all. It may be about tricking the next group of people. So when victims talk about the Shaklee "scam", are they being fair? Click that last link for an answer. Most people (99.8%) lose money to a pyramid scam. If you were the victim of an MLM or pyramid scheme, it's not your fault. They are very convincing but in terms of MLM statistics, the odds are worse than any casino game you can find.
    Pinnacle Truth

    What could someone possibly say to convince you to join an MLM like this? Remember that smart people fall for this just as easily as anyone else, but that begs the question, "How?" In order to write that the video below shows a con-artist teaching marketers how to be better con artists we require some proof that Bo Short misrepresented financial data, encouraged "inventory loading" or focused on selling business opportunity over products. Instead we will ask, "Does the video below show a con artist, or someone who is your friend?" Is the Shaklee scam real? Are you glad you asked?


    Beyond CEO Roger Barnett, let's look at Bo Short's affiliations in the social marketing aka attraction marketing or MLM underworld.

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=KT95HPGTGUM
      Jan 15, 2013 - Uploaded by Cinchspiration
      Why Lou Abbott, Bo Short, Ty Tribble Chose Shakleeby Lou Abbott... Natasha Nassar - My Storyby Natasha ...

    Google Ty Tribble and see what comes up. If you decide to join Shaklee, you will need to trust that people like Bo Short and Ty Tribble want what's best for you.
    "Shaklee scam" comes up here: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme
    Bo Short and Ty Tribble are the MLM pyramid serial scammers from hell. Their resumes of MLM scams rivals the length of Gone With the Wind!

    Roughly 99.8% never make a dime at social marketing because they aren't supposed to. MLM Exprts agree that it is the most agressive, deceptive and unfair scheme allowed by law. Cult expert Steven Hassan suggests MLM participants are fed the belief that failure results from lack of hard work. It results from joining MLM.
    Losing Your Friends

    Before signing on with an MLM like Shaklee, you need to think about how you value other people. After the dishonest suggestions about the money you will earn and the need to buy-in, a common reason that pyramids are labeled as scams, centers on the way they encourage you to treat your friends. Victims of Shaklee and other MLMs can isolate themselves from their social groups very quickly. When you watch Bo Short in the video under the "Realizing the Truth" heading, it is important to think about what your friends would do and how they would feel if you began to incorporate a marketing pitch into your friendships. Of course, most people lose money in MLMs rather than making it, but when it's all done, it comes as a surprise to some that they have lost friends as well. It is painful and it requires many apologies to pick up the pieces. Read the cult view of Shaklee.
    Opportunity Support

    The Shaklee company has some misguiding if not unlawful practices regarding refunds. When victims call 925-734-3636 to speak to "earning opportunity support" for a refund, they get 4-8 minutes of Shaklee ad recordings followed by a recording that asks for a telephone number so that the company can call him or her. There are documented cases of refunds taking up to two months and 10 hours of hold time. If you are considering becoming a Shaklee distributor, know the facts and make an informed choice. Put it this way, the FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION published a user post indicating that you will probably lose the money they convince you to invest. That part is simple.

    from: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/120622/my-really-smart-friend-is-in-a-pyramid-scheme-right
    "I'm in a similar position with my Dad. He's doing Shaklee sh**, where you buy their products .. and get other people to sign on as a 'gold member' and then they buy the products and they as well as he make profit. Yeah....it doesn't work. At all. He keeps putting money INTO Shaklee but never gets any back. There's no reasoning with them, because he's going to think that you're not supportive of his investments. Keep your mouth shut, and let him ride it out. He'll learn the hard way, unfortunately."
    Or drink some Koolaid and build 100Gbps optical network taps for aggregated monitoring and surveiance of data packets:
    Inflated Retail Price & Snake Oil

    And yes, there's a catch. Shaklee products are generally priced 3-5x above retail market value. They work as well as any other soaps, vitamins or lotions but that begs the question, "Do I pay 3-5 times more because it's my darling/friend/grandson selling them if I can get the same thing for so much less at the local store?" You can buy network taps for less. For how long will your "customers" continue to pity and buy Shaklee products from you at such inflated prices? It doesn't take a gigabit network tap to see that anything sold over retail cost won't move in a free marketplace, and that's where magic comes in. As you will see from the Glacken Group, Shaklee distributors must routinely make inflated claims about the quality of these soaps, vitamins and skin creams. It's embarassing. And the products still don't move according to former distributors who contributed to this site. Do you want to sell snake oil?




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    Shaklees and John MacLaren
    I left Shaklee with thousands of dollars in debt and broken friendships. In the 6 months that I lived through the wrath of the Shaklee product-based pyramid scheme within Bo Short's Pinnacle Group, I gained insight into the psychology of product-based pyramid schemes and into the nature of deception and confidence games. They surpass the criteria for a scam and so I am comfortable using that word since I lived through it. I lived through people telling me that Shaklee products would help or even cure my form of muscular dystrophy. It felt like a cult. I sought the advice of my endocrinologist in Rochester MN and he advised me not to take pills that Shaklee encouraged me to buy from them. -See Shaklee's Glacken Group under, Putting People's Health at Risk, at the top of this page. I was ridiculed to no end by fellow Shaklee distributors for following his advice. I also want to note that whenever people in Shaklee told me why someone might speak poorly about an MLM, it was implied that the person had simply had a bad experience with one and was generalizing or hadn't worked hard.


    It saddens me that there are thousands of other stories like this. Many of you have already contacted this public service website and we will publish your stories when legal threats from Shaklee have ceased. Your voice and your right to speak out, will be safe here. This is more than my story. this is about all of Shaklee's victims. Everything I've written is factual. I was there. And the funny thing is that I approached this as a staunch skeptic, but failed to realize that the information online about the scam was a confidence game of misinformation, that it was all hacker SEO. I was coaxed into believing that I was "climbing into my dreams." I believed what they told me about money, and most of what they told me was untrue or incomplete. It sickens me that there are those who think this type of deceit in financial arrangements should be legal. The efforts put into public relations and hacker SEO by Shaklee, are truly outstanding. With their confidence game, Shaklee creates the convincing illusion that everyone who works hard at this earns money. It isn't true.


    Don’t fault yourself it you too have been tricked. Join us. I can no longer stay silent about having been scammed nor should anyone else. Shaklee Corporation is a product-based pyramid scheme and as MLM expert Dr. Jon M. Taylor points out, these can be even more destructive than a regular pyramid scheme. Shaklee contributes money to lobbyists. So long as regulators overlook the systematic dishonesty and misrepresentation of financial data and arrangements by this company's "independant" distribuors, one might consider a product-based pyramid scheme like Shaklee to be legal. One would be incorrect.....



    Shaklee is a company that reports about $500,000,000 in annual sales, but also has 700,000 distributors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaklee_Corporation). Therefore, Shaklee grosses only $714 per year per distributor. It is mathematically impossible for more than a fraction of one percent of distributors to be making the example five and six figure incomes from the brochure. In fact, if Shaklee's commissions were one-third of gross sales, then the average Shaklee distributor would be making less than $20/month before expenses. Shaklee's products and pyramid-sales business model are very similar to Amway/Quixtar's. Forbes Magazine has reported that the average Amway distributor netted only $780/year, but consumed $1,068/year in goods (http://mlmlaw.blogspot.com/2005/01/w...ve-to-say.html). Therefore, the average Amway/Quixtar distributor lost money. Because of similarities between Shaklee and Amway/Quixtar, it's likely that Shaklee distributors are also averaging losses. But Shaklee does not report the gross or net average incomes of its distributors in any of its business opportunity advertisements. Shaklee only reports exceptional incomes of salespeople in the 99-th percentile of all distributors. Those exceptional incomes are displayed in such a way as to make them appear typical, which is misleading and unethical. Shaklee recruits should also be told how difficult it is to sell products to customers because of their high prices. For example, Shaklee charges about $50.00 for a one gallon bottle of liquid laundry soap (http://www.shaklee.com/product/81295). Shaklee's three pound box of dishwasher detergent retails for $14.95 (http://www.shaklee.com/product/00288). Similar cleaning products are available for around one-fifth of the Shaklee price in grocery and retail stores throughout the country. But when Shaklee recruits distributors it never mentions that they will face an uphill battle justifying the high prices of Shaklee products to customers. Multilevel marketing companies attract recruits with unrealistic promises of income and don't warn potential distributors about the high prices of the products they will be selling. MLMs know that most of the distributors they recruit will lose money, but never tell them that fact. When advertising a business opportunity, all multilevel marketing companies including Shaklee should be required to tell recruits their product prices and the average net (after expenses) income of all distributors. If these requirements are added to the FTC's business opportunity rule, then MLMs will have to stop their common, but misleading and unethical practice of reporting only the average gross incomes of distributors at high levels in their pyramids.
    by Steven Johnson, Ohio


    Ronnie Branch has repeatedly claimed he is protecting people from scams????????????????????????
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    Ronnie's acting career in a nutshell. Nut being the keyword......
    Shaklee Compensation Plan: Five Star Comedy
    At: http://barryw.myshaklee.com/us/en/about_credibility__part_1.html an author wrote that Shaklee Corporation is not a pyramid scheme because pyramid schemes use, "...complex and sometimes exaggerated compensation schemes ... and cult-like techniques which some groups use to enhance their members' enthusiasm and devotion" This author may suffer accute reality loss because we are currently analyzing the Shaklee Fast Track compensation plan and here is what the analysis of Shaklee's compensation plan looks like in a nutshell: Four academics with 3 PhDs one MD and a law degree sit around a glass topped table with the Shaklee dream plan for compensation. Notes are written, pages are rotated... and laughter errupts as we read, re-read and re-read looking for something, anything that resembles "compensation" or relates to the idea of a "plan." Unlike a compensation plan that can be translated into language or logic, what we are seeing brings tears to our eyes we laugh so hard... it is absolutely hysterical and all of us are now working on the hypothesis that in fact, no plan of compensation exists for Shaklee. That would mean no one could sue Shaklee for lack of compansation. This plan is a jarbled assortment of make-believe Shaklee words defined by MORE make believe Shaklee words and two-three word combinations of real words that mean absolutely nothing in their given contexts. We have joked that this Fast Track Dream Plan plan for Shaklee compensation is the same as taking a mirror, a bag of clown noses and an octopus -putting them in an industrial blender and spreading the result into a picture frame titled "Shaklee Compensation Plan" When someone asks what the plan is, you point to the picture frame, "That's the compensation plan. See?" The authors here, along with some experts in the industry who are following this page hereby offer a reward of 1000 infinity points to anyone who can translate the following Shaklee Compansation Plan into a language and 10,000 infinity points to the one who can translate it into a plan:
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    We should thank Ronnie Branch again for trying to blackmail me into removing this thread and making a false report to the police and then posting another of his lie-filled videos whining about how I cyberstalk and harass him with my gang on here. That is the best way to keep these old threads alive and be sure people will not get ripped off by serial scammers like him. I am proud to have been sued 3 times by obvious scammers. Those scammers ended their shenanigans that way as the publicity assured they could not continue to defraud the public.
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    Ronnie has no internet presence without his scambusting experts here exposing him! He should take his own advice and apply at McDonald's.
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    Pyramid Scheme Victim Seeks Damages From Shaklee Corporation: "I Recorded the Whole Thing"

    "My experience inside Shaklee was mind-altering," said Dopf, "I learned how far people will go for money. It's not about a white lie here or there, its a whole culture of deceit It's scary they have been getting away with it for a living. Shaklee Victims United decided that my records had to be published online to warn others. You wouldn't want this to happen to someone in your family.".....

    Attn: Federal Trade Commission

    My name is Elizabeth Dopf. I was lured into investing in a Shaklee "business opportunity" because I believed the financial information given to me by John MacLaren and Bo Short was truthful regarding time and compensation. I submit this testimony shown in video/audio format below to federal law enforcement authorities, and I submit it as truthful under penalty of purgory Please note that the crimes I witnessed are still being committed to defraud current victims of Shaklee's Pinnacle Group.....

    Elizabeth sought the $880 bonus promised her and bought herself in to the rank only to learn that she could not have the bonus for another three months during which time she would need to keep bringing in that same level of money, despite what she had been promised.After being denied the promised bonus for buying herself into the "director" level, Ms. Dopf's email records show routine requests to John MacLaren asking how the basic compensation plan worked and requesting to see her relationship to the company on paper to clarify who was in her downline and upline. The records show John refused to provide that basic information to her and we see emailed comments from John telling Betsy to stop asking questions and focus on getting him prospects

    Taken together the following emerges: false claims about compensation plans were delivered online, in person via sms text message and emails causing Elizabeth to pay-in, allow her upline to control her purchasing, and even buy-in a friend to make "director," only to learn that she had been lied to and would not receive the bonuses promised. Another disturbing aspect of this secretive, business structure that Betsy was not permitted to lay eyes upon, despite being an "independent" distributor within it, was the fact that the official Shaklee compensation plan had no bearing whatsoever on the structuring and hierarchy of MacLaren's downline, which we see him arranging and rearranging by will in countless text and facebook messages. It is imediattly clear from these records that John is controlling not only his downlines auto-ship accounts from his own computer, continuing to stock them up with products that he knows aren't selling, but John is also controlling who is placed under who - all the while refusing to show these relationships on paper or in any form. This goes well beyond satisfying the definition for an illegal pyramid the moment products were being willfully stockpiled by MacLaren who gained remote access to the purchasin accounts of his downline to funnel money into his own account. All of this is documented by electronic communications between participants.
    Testimony Key Points

    John MacLaren gained full access to his downline's purchasing accounts and ordered increasing numbers of products with full knowledge that they were not selling and were stocking up on the downline's floor. This put money into Jon's account each time he did it. By any standard this removes the idea of a retail "product" from the picture because we see in the simplest form that the "Products" are being used as an internal currency unit to transport money up the pyramid to Mr. John MacLaren and those above him.


    MLM is a math game that the vast majority of participants will lose. It is fraud by design. All the money flows to the few early entrants and originators at the top of the towering pyramid.
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    Great to see so many learning about MLM scams. I think the charming subject of this thread should enlighten us about his earnings. What is he making right now in Shaklee for question number one. Why is he constantly jumping from one MLM scam to another? How many people that he has mentored have made a sustainable living with MLM? He attacks me and "my people" on Youtube with lie-filled videos. Why is he afraid to come on here and debate?
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    https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/fi...0008-57281.pdf

    7-1
    The Case (for and) against Multi-level Marketing
    By Jon M. Taylor, MBA, Ph.D., Consumer Awareness Institute
    Chapter 7:MLM’s ABYSMAL NUMBERS

    Chapter summary
    Is MLM ap rofitable business
    opportunity? And if so, for whom? Just do the
    maththe numbers don't lie. In this and
    preceding chapters, you will find the most
    rigorous and thorough analysis of MLM
    profitability ever done by an independent
    research firm. Questions about the viability
    and profitability of MLM as a business model
    and its many company manifestations are
    answered in this and prior chaptersbased
    on 15 years’ research, worldwide feedback,
    and analysis of the compensation plans of
    over 350 of the leading MLMs, as well as
    average earnings data, where available. The
    answers are not pretty.

    Our studies, along with those done by
    other independent analysts (not connected to
    the MLM industry), clearly prove that MLM as a
    business modelwith its endless chain of
    recruitment of participants as primary
    customersis flawed, unfair, and deceptive.
    Worldwide feedback suggests it is also
    extremely viral, predatory and harmful to many
    participants. This conclusion does not apply
    just to a specific MLM company, but to the
    entire MLM industry. It is a systemic problem.
    Of the 350 MLMs I have analyzed for
    which a complete compensation plan was
    available, 100% of the mare recruitment-
    driven and top-weighted. In other words, the
    vast majority of commissions paid by MLM
    companies go to a tiny percentage of
    TOPPs(top-of-the-pyramidpromoters)at
    the expense of a revolving door of recruits,
    99% of whom lose money.This is after
    subtracting purchases they must make to
    qualify for commissions and advancement
    in the scheme, to say nothing of minimal
    operating expenses for conducting an
    aggressive recruitment campaignwhich
    (based on the compensation plans) is
    essential to get into the profit column.
    The claim by MLM promoters that many
    participants work for part-time or seasonal
    income is a bogus argument because
    without full-time and long-sustained effort,
    MLM participants cannot build and maintain
    a large enough downline to meet expenses,
    and therefore do not profit.

    These conclusions were confirmed in the
    average earnings reports of all 30 MLMs for
    which we were able to obtain data published
    by the companies themselves. Such statistics
    are invaluable for analysts to debunk the
    many misrepresentations that are told to
    thousands of prospects every day.
    Failure and loss rates for MLMs are not
    comparable with legitimate small
    businesses, which have been found to be
    profitable for 39% over the lifetime of the
    business; whereas less than 1% of MLM
    participants profit.MLM makes even
    gambling look like a safe bet in comparison.
    MLM stocks are questionable
    investments at best.And like gambling,
    losses from MLM participation should not be
    allowed as a tax deductionbeyond the
    amount of actual income.

    MLM as a business model is the
    epitome of an“unfair or deceptive acts or
    practice” that the FTC is pledged to protect
    against. It is even worse than classic, no-
    product pyramid schemes(for which the
    loss rate is only about 90%) and“pay to
    play” chain letters. For promoters to present
    MLM as a “business opportunity” or “income
    opportunity”is a misrepresentation.
    That is an excerpt from the report by my dearly missed colleague Dr. Jon Taylor. Unlike Ronnie Branch, he holds an MBA and PhD.

    I challenge buffoon Ronnie Branch to carefully study and then refute what the good doctor has published about MLM scams including this Shaklee crap. Ronnie's ad hominem attacks against me just illustrate clearly that MLM scam whores can't provide any proof for their positions. Ronnie is looking really stupid about now!
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    The report goes on to state:

    Over a five-year period, at least
    95% typically have left the company; and
    usually after ten years, nearly all but those
    at or near the top of their respective
    pyramids will have dropped out.
    At the very least, you can assume that
    90% of participants will terminate within five
    years, and at least 95% within ten years.
    My 2010 post on the Melaleuca thread. Note this is before any forced product purchases or business expenses were deducted and doesn't include thousands that got zero dollars in this complete farce of a business. Total Scam!
    Remember the 190,000 Frank VanderSloot says got a paycheck in 2004?

    The 190,000 paid grunts are grouped as follows=99.2%

    Title/ annaul earnings /#of folks at level
    Marketing Executive 1/$104/ 103,170
    Marketing Executive 2/$222/ 28,500
    Marketing Executive 3/$483/20,330
    Director 1/$1778/28,500
    Director 2/$5,349/5,130
    Director 3/$9,990 /1,900
    Director4/$15,374/722
    Director 5/$23,777/342 The remaining.786% make a real living!

    The numbers speak for themselves. There is no opportunity here. Frank Vandersloot is a slick goof that feeds folks all this nonsense about enhancing lives when the real story is how Frank is enhancing his own bottom line. Numbers don't lie, but the guys that set up these schemes can and do!

    YOU
    Level 1 5
    Level 2 25
    Level 3 125
    Level 4 625
    Level 5 3,125
    Level 6 15,625 = 19530
    ----------------------
    Level 7 78,125
    Total business partners = 97,655

    Think about how gargantuan the bottom layers are. Look at how few are on top. Is this really an honest and good way to make a living? Do you want to work for dishonest goofs like Frank? He said 20,000 of the 190,000 folks we have numbers for were making a living with this at the end of 2004. Only 5% exceed the $1778 average earnings per year. I count less than 3,000 making $15,000 and up! Where are the other 17,000+? So, unless they relocated to a third world country your Frank has a lot of explaining to do.
    Think folks.....Think! Is this really an opportunity?????
    Prove us wrong Ronnie!
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    Nutbag Ronnie Branch keeps editing and adding more to his incoherent rambling comments on his video attacking me and "my people" on here. Everyone can see who needs help and it ain't me.


    @ronniebranch5609

    10 days ago (edited)

    I had a productive conversation with the Police that came by today. He agreed she is going down a dark path and agreed defamation of character is clearly seen and he will be calling her. In conclusion I already know the law is not caught up with various issues like trolling,cyber bullying harassment etc. , however this video serves as a first step to helping bring self awareness and brand others as Cyber bullies. Hopefully one day new laws will be passed and this video can be used as a reference for law enforcement agencies to keep tabs on this site and especially the Admin for how she behaves in general.

    Just as this site likes to brand people as scammers on a consistent basics without getting to know people properly I am doing my duty to branding these people as Harassment Trolling Cyber Bullies that think its ok to post images,gloat, make fun of others and write things about another without their permission and use the law as a reference as to admit to evading the law entirely of their wrong doing and knowing they likely can get away with this stuff. While some think its ok to work around the law as Heather likes to she only will continue to brand herself as a Cyber Harasser Trolling Bully that has serious mental problems and cannot work out issues when asked nicely. That is why I made this video to help bring self awareness of branding this woman of her issues. You can google her name and see the amount of lawsuits filed against her and she thinks its fun to wrack up lawsuits and complaints toward her holding trophy's to gloat about and harass people in many ways all the time. She has made at least 40+ messages telling my old life story which part of it is false of 10+ years ago on her site since I made this video.

    She is running out of content to find about me on the internet and is now posting information a confirmed email register spy on my old email list or a hacker of old messages from I sent out over 10+ years which further confirms her stalker behavior. Well Heather the good news is you'll get to the part where one of your users starts to make fun of me on your thread a few years back to just watch the Dukes of Hazard show while doing some surveys for a few dollars then the only thing left to probably add as content is name calling or calling surveys a scam next or adding new false information about my life or finding a new victim to bully,insult,defame and gossip about which is sad. No matter what you write Heather it does not affect my life whatsoever in fact it only brands you as a creepy stalker. Writing about stuff I have not been active for over 10+ years and thinking she is doing some good like a woman coming out of her cave to report nonsense messages.

    Keep branding yourself this way Heather as people will see your sick obsession with me and others. She is upset because she feels exposed on the internet branding her name with law enforcement agencies for how she treats people online.She loves to post photos of me and my woman of whom cannot even feed herself and various nonsense thinking she is doing some good in the marketplace by revealing folks photos,info online and call it public info like its morally ok to do. It's no wonder you have no friends on your own site only 5 profile friends since you made this site? Your not exposing anything and if people actually thanked you you'd have a lot more friends over the years. It is clear people see how sick you are in general. The complaint I wrote below where 204 people voted as helpful from Joy T is a clear indication your not doing your site any good.

    Good job though finding info about 10-13 years old though. My woman actually thinks its kinda funny teases me about it being called a wife beater by one of your users that said that in the thread a few years back when I am not even married or to grow a set being taunted by one of your members to register on the site in the past when I do not associate with negative people. I can see why you have so many lawsuits and complaints and those links are under this video description where she even has had a local neighbor named Amy file a rip off report about her among the many other complaints about her. Also Zoe Gonzalez Another local neighbor near Heather commented on the rip off report from Amy about posting her public info and other things without her permission along with some strange videos. I have linked them under the description of this video. So it appears she causes problems locally as well as online. For years she will not stop being mean to me along with other people. Get some help professionally Heather as you really have issues going on with you.

    More complaints one from Joy T. that Asked them to remove their information used without her permission and made it clear a lawsuit may follow.Holly M with 204 helpful votes seen on the site. Also called the site abusive with name calling etc. I have added that link in the video description to read.

    Lawsuit on Heather from Tim Darnell - This woman has a History of Lawsuits,Gossip,Slander,Defaming people on a routine basics that link is found in the video description. A big thread of people talking about realscam and complaints. I added it in the video description.

    If folks are looking for a reference about scams in general my advice would be to look for another resource where you can get good reliable information minus the many issues and drama spoken from above as realscam.com is not a reliable source of information in my opinion since Heather to me is an unfit admin mental health wise. Real Professionals are emotionally sound and actually will go out their way as to care and lift folks up in general with helpful advice as to avoid scams with sound advice and not gloat and bring people down, posting photos and defaming people on a regular basics. Heather spends all her time trying to drag people down calling everything a scam and while others work through failures and success to find their way. Be warned folks about the things you place on the internet for others may find that Heather could post your information,photos,messages etc. without your permission and calling what you've done in the past a scam even if its 8-12+ years old all without even knowing you aside from comments,gossip,harassment,defamation statements,images used without your permission etc.

    Heather I'd rather have a history of building a better life regardless of Success and failures then have a life as your own filled with complaints, lawsuits, drama for many years. Since you think literally everything is a scam perhaps working at Mcdonalds might do you some good at least it'll keep you out of trouble with the law being filled with negative drama. She thinks I am a failure based on nonsense she keeps posting about me that is 10-13 or so years old which is false I am doing just fine in my life so more false information thinking I am a loser when you do not even know me in the real world just things you find online over a decade ago. Go focus on your own life, kids and family instead of degrading people on a routine basics looking like a creepy cyber bully stalker.

    Great quotes from Great mindsets and Successful people : “Winners are not afraid of losing. But losers are. Failure is part of the process of success. People who avoid failure also avoid success.” —Robert T.

    “Success is most often achieved by those who don't know that failure is inevitable.” - Coco Chanel

    “Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.” -Chinese proverb

    “Successful people don’t fear failure but understand that it’s necessary to learn and grow from.” -Robert Kiyosaki

    I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong. Benjamin Franklin I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. Thomas A. Edison

    Failure is not the opposite of success; it's part of success. Arianna Huffington

    I've failed over and over and over again in my life and that is why I succeed. Michael Jordan

    I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed. Michael Jordan

    The greatest barrier to success is the fear of failure. Sven-Goran Eriksson

    An inventor fails 999 times, and if he succeeds once, he's in.

    He treats his failures simply as practice shots. Charles Kettering

    The Only person getting defrauded are those with a poverty negative mindset that heed negative poverty mindset people. Getting out of our comfortable zone is a small price to pay for a better life then listen to negative energy all day long from people like Heather of whom wants to see you broke and poor all the time when she thinks I will lead people to the poor house when in fact it is her energy. I have helped many people make money online as she loves to spread false information about me. Just because I am not doing a business does not mean it failed it means my work was done and my life took a new direction in life. I unlike you have found success in the past and in present while you continue to work towards leading people to poverty with your poverty mindset and continue to rack up lawsuits and complaints about yourself online being filled with drama.

    In Conclusion anybody whom is looking at this site it is my belief to not use it as a reference for clearly the Admin Heather having only 5 friends on her profile on her site since likely the birth of the site of many years is a clear indication she is not well received by the public and not doing her site or the people any good always being negative and thinking everything is a scam all the time. For she lacks the understanding of the above quotes since she has always been bitter for many years filled with Drama and never likely had success in anything other then attacking other people on a routine basics. Thanks for reading have a great day.


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    9 days ago (edited)

    I've come to realize this woman heather needs mental and spiritual help. I have read the many reports watched videos about her and how she behaves attacking other people for many years that have any sort of success or even failure in the past or present. it is not normal for people to obsess about many people for many years as this woman is not wired correctly like normal people are and trying to reason with her is most likely out of the question. Hopefully one day she will get the help she needs. What people do in their life is their business, remember folks to never let cyber bully's try to control, taunt and and do many things that is Ungodly. It is important to live a good life free of drama and respect people in general and most importantly what the bible teaches in how we should conduct and live our lives. In my opinion she really needs to focus on her own life instead of the lives of so many people and unfortunately more people to come until she either gets help professionally and from the bible otherwise her path will not be a good future as I do pity people like Heather and I have a sense of compassion for people that have mental illness and are liking suffering from not keeping their spirit fed with the word from the bible. Maybe someday she will get the help she needs I have said a prayer for you Heather and hopefully one day you will find peace in your life and change your behavior towards other people..

    Great Resources from the Bible about Love,Gossip,Slander & Hate: https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Love/ https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Gossip/ https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Slander/ https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Hate/

    Finally if you ever become sane one day your welcome to communicate to work out some issues you have with me and that offer will always stand on the table as that is what a good Christian would do. As I mentioned upon our brief phone conversation my goal was to work out issues as I prefer peace over drama, but you decided to go down this dark path and not working out your issues and I will defend myself as needed and nothing more then that. It is ok to have an opinion about things, but the way your going about this is ungodly and unprofessional. I take no pleasure in this video or the write up in this video so if ever you decide to make peace and work things out your welcome to contact me. I already know because of your mindset your set into your ways having a poverty negative mindset in general you likely are not capable of working anything out along with finding any sort of success at anything in life based on how you behave towards others.

    Wisdom for Heather, A farmer builds a great farm then decided to stop taking care of his farm and garden. The Crops no longer would grow and depart since the Farmer stopped watering and taking care of them. Did the Farmer fail? No, He or She had success as the farmer worked the field and tended their farm and garden. Did the Farmer reap rewards? Absolutely because The farmer worked the field at the time and others enjoyed the bounty as well and saw the benefits of using ones hand to produce a great harvest for themselves.

    Of course Heather has mental problems to not understand such wisdom sadly for she is not capable of promoting wisdom on her website as to be helpful as well as apply it to her life and adding positive thoughts in general for this woman is not capable of anything positive in my opinion based on the path she walks down as her history speaks for itself sadly. Her site if you even look at it most likely has 80-90+% negative drama So you will find next to nothing or at all anything positive in regards to helpful thoughts since Heather enjoys posting photos and info of other people all the time and not respecting peoples privacy in general.

    She does not respect any business in general or people which also explains why she has had problems with her local neighbors as well as online. What Heather fails to realize a lot of the work that involves any level of Success is devotion to positive energy and she is no expert to advice to wealth building or avoiding scams since her focus is heavily leaned towards drama and not actually helping people with wealth creation advice. The only thing she knows how to do is call everything a scam minus the other things people need to grasp to find ways to earn a income online and avoid scams in general which also involves positive thoughts.

    Self Education about Pyramid Schemes in General. Corporate America Pyramids vs MLM Pyramids explained from a MLM Expert of that was involved in a small handful of MLMs over 10+ years ago.

    MLM Pyramids are designed to allow anybody to build up the ladder based on their efforts,belief level and how well they treat and deal with others. Others of whom do not climb up the Pyramid does not mean it does not work it's just the majority are not willing to go the distance and apply themselves to never give up. Of course in short words Heather calls a MLM a scam because most don't make money. This is because the majority do not apply themselves and not take their own responsibility for their failures. The same holds true with Student loans as most will not work towards building an advanced career for themselves and study and apply themselves. They like the idea of building a future only to have endless debt and work a job they likely despise. This is why there are low class,middle class and upper class people being a small percentage of the population. Fitness is the same way there are likely more overweight and negative people in the world vs smart educated well mannered fit people out there in the world. To say it is a scam means they did not apply themselves and it isn't a scam. The only scam that took place was a person not applying themselves. This applies to MLM and many other things in life.

    Corporate America Pyramids are designed for the employee to always be under management of various levels. In this Pyramid you must stand on your feet often depending on your job be stuck at a pay level for often times years before even advancing to a higher level for a pay raise. In comparison to MLM Pyramids which you can get a pay raise based on your leadership skills and personal marketing skill sets and the relationships you have developed. In the Corporate America Pyramid a lot of people often times are replaceable and can get laid off without notice meaning all the time invested is gone. Is this a scam ? No Its called Life and the same holds true about MLMs in which Heather calls a scam trying one business to try another until one finds their way. Pretty much everything I'd worked at I have found a level of success to enjoy so to me it was never a scam it was helping me grow as a leader and to lead me to a even better path. Of course Heather being filled with Drama has no understanding about success in general and how it works.

    In a MLM Pyramid your pay is based on the size of your email list, your relationships with others and your skills and the money you put into yourself and business and no matter what happens in a MLM those are assets the business owner can use to build a income with any other business unlike the Corporate America Pyramid where as your stuck with just a reference in hopes of a higher pay only to not have time freedom in comparison to the MLM Pyramid even during the early phases of building. We all love to have time freedom and earning from the comfort of our home and many people do just that.

    In conclusion it is better to build and get a pay raise often within your own pyramid along with having a large email list and relationships that become an asset instead of being stuck in a Corporate America Pyramid which people have to work 9-5 and never will reach the top of that pyramid nor have any real time freedom vs the MLM Pyramid... You can either listen to my advice of somebody that has seen success in the past and present or advice from a long time Drama Queen known as Heather that enjoys posting peoples information online thus disrespecting people in general its your decision.

    Don't listen to what Heather at realscam.com in what she says in regards to MLMs being scams when it is clear we have a government resource to share information about this topic minus her Drama she loves to share on her site all the time. A good resource about Legit MLMs vs Pyramid Schemes: https://consumer.ftc.gov/articles/multi-level-marketing-businesses-pyramid-schemes

    Here is some great wisdom from the Lord to help you.. Matthew 6:21 “For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.” https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-6-21/

    It is important to focus your thoughts to positive things for we reap what we sow. Your site your reaping a lot of bad things that your sowing over the years which will create instability and spiritual sickness in your life that can also contribute to mental sickness. Focus your eyes and heart on sowing good seeds of the kind of fruit you want to reap in life as you have kids and you need to set a good example for them in life. Your site while the idea may sound good it can lead to many things that become Ungodly and it becomes a dangerous path mentally and spiritually.

    Complaining about the world and people and being bitter for years in general is not healthy as the world will never be perfect nor will people in general which is why we have the bible to help guide us through this life where storms really are like showers since their mindset is on the positive regardless of failures or successes. You really should get some help Heather as what your doing towards many people will catch up with you health wise and hopefully this message can help if not today then hopefully days or years later. I have nothing more to add farewell...
    Ronnie is a silly little fool who doesn't even understand the definition of a cyber bully. He is the one that fits that. I label scams and scammer based on definitions accepted by the educated and savvy. I don't need to get to know fake Christian MLMers like Ronnie to discern that they are defrauding people. MLM is inherent fraud and a math game that the vast majority are doomed to lose by its very design. Ronnie is not sophisticated enough to even comprehend any of that.

    The proven scammers that sued me have all been taken out. Tim Darnell's Advantage Conferences was adjudicated to be a pyramid scheme and his suit against me just confirmed that. Darnell is now trying to get people to let him and his business partner paint their fences. His pyramid scam promoting days were ended by me. Don Allen Holbrook's fake Economic Developer days where he defrauded taxpayers out of millions of dollars with his Earthquest billion dollar theme park scam and more have ended. That sleazbag has been pushing timeshares as no one will hire him. Daniel Ptak who stole or paid late at total of half a million dollars from kids sports charities has been shut down as well. I delight in taking scammers out and protecting the public. It takes a village!

    Scammer Ronnie posted all the photos of his women and used her in illegal and fraudulent advertising for Shaklee. It is all documented on this thread by various members.

    Applying oneself in an MLM will make no difference in a saturated market with an overpriced, overhyped product. It is a recruiting game that is won by a fraction of a percent at the top of the pyramid. I will publish again more of the afore mentioned report. Someone reach out to Ronnie and help him read it.
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    Quick Ronnie. Time for another video about me. You are doing wonders for exposing MLM scams and scammers like yourself!

    Ronnie Branch needs to provide his tax returns and so much more to prove that he is successful and that he has helped others find success in MLM.

    And, I am still waiting for the police and other law enforcement agencies that I have worked with to arrest and charge me for exposing you.
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    Just a moment...

    That is 6 pages of lie-filled, rambling nonsense all compliments of scammer Ronnie. Most hilariously he admonishes the army of posters exposing him to not judge:

    Even If I Explained it would not matter because others have already judged me. In the bible it says judge not or you will be judged. On the other hand I'm a simple loving guy who loves helping people be successful. People who know me know I am a hard working Entrepreneur. I am humble I am loving and forgiving and climbing the mountain of glory.

    The sin that is talked about her is against my nature if anybody knows the real me. Why don't you listen to my story on my youtube channel you can hear my great journey

    My youtube channel is : ronniebranch


    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch
    So, only people like me who see Ronnie for the lying scammer he is should be judged all by King Scammer Ronnie himself!
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    We can all see that his videos get few views from his years on Youtube. This hilarious, lying clown thinks he is going to educate people to be successful in internet marketing with videos???
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    Hang on to your pocketbooks and run!!! Tell Ronnie he should go directly to MacDonald's and apply!
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    Ronnie's adventures are quite entertaining!
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    1 hour ago (edited)

    I have better things to do with my time Heather and I am sure you'll love to copy and paste things like you always do. Reasoning or talking with a psychopath may be fun for you, but not me since I am a positive person. You have two choices really, You can make 100-1000+ posts about me and talk to yourself or a handful of others and waste your time I really don't care or do the responsible thing like most adults do and work out your issues over the phone with me instead from being hurt all the time by the video,links writings I made about you for allowing your users and yourself to write about me for years. I've said plenty in my defense from previous comments so folks can read between the lines. If not well that is their business, you writing nonsense about me Heather does not effect me at all since what I do today does not involve dealing with people, but even if I did I'd still find success easily in whatever I set my mind to... However this video that will never go down unless you workout your mental problems does effect you since you are running your site and are putting your name to shame for how you behave all the time and having law enforcement being self aware of how your behaving on your site along with your future victims that will likely complain about you and they can find this as a reference of knowing Heather is unfit to workout her mental problems. If only pets where smarter since u love pets on your facebook to know the kind of woman you are since your lousy at dealing with people in general. Just as I reminded myself years ago and walked away with this phrase don't feed the troll.. Anyways god bless.
    Exposing blatant fraud, educating and warning and informing the public does not ever equate to being mentally ill or a psychopath. You have clearly spent too much time with Don Allen Holbrook.

    You are so out of touch with reality. I have worked with law enforcement for years.

    I am having no trouble dealing with people. I just can't be bullied and blackmailed into taking down truthful posts. This thread will just get more informative posts added to it so readers can make informed decisions before getting involved in uneconomic deals with the likes of you!
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    I have better things to do with my time Heather and I am sure you'll love to copy and paste things like you always do as that is what Trolls do. Reasoning or talking with a psychopath may be fun for you, but not me since I am a positive person. You have two choices really, You can make 100-1000+ posts about me and talk to yourself or a handful of others who feed from negativity and drama who enjoy wasting their time I really don't care. Or you can do the responsible thing like most adults do and work out your issues over the phone with me instead from being hurt all the time by the video,links writings I made about you for allowing your users and yourself to write about me for years.

    I've said plenty in my defense from previous comments so folks can read between the lines. If not well that is their business, you writing nonsense about me Heather does not effect me at all since what I do today does not involve dealing with people, but even if I did I'd still find success easily in whatever I set my mind to because I unlike you have a positive mindset and not a poverty drama mindset... However this video will never go down unless you workout your mental problems as it does effect you since you are running your site and are putting your name to shame for how you behave all the time and having law enforcement being self aware of how your behaving now on your site along with your future victims that will likely complain about you and they can find this as a reference of knowing Heather is unfit to workout her mental problems. If only pets where smarter since u love pets on your facebook to know the kind of woman you are since your lousy at dealing with people in general. Just as I reminded myself years ago and walked away with this phrase don't feed the troll.. Anyways god bless and I've said it many times to get some help from a professional with your mental state before you get yourself into some serious trouble in the future from either the law or other people etc.
    The users here can post any thing they like within the rules. Rules and Guidelines We welcome all truthful posts, facts, hyperbole and opinion. This site is full of positive uplifting posts that expose scams and scammers such as yourself so people won't be defrauded.

    The poverty mindset and think your way to being a millionaire is so Tim Darnell...... Ronnie Branch, prove your wild success with your tax returns and proof your recruits made a real living.

    Note this had only 303 views when I put it up here. But, it is a beyond hilarious look at business suicide Ronnie and Tim style!
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    ohh Ronnie..... ....... Ronnie .................... Ronnie. Have you not heard of the Streisand Effect???!!!!??? Streisand effect - Wikipedia by sticking your nose out you have created more exposure to yourself...... in the wrong way of course

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    The discussions on Legal Junkies are quite a hoot. Please find following some excerpts from the chat about and with scammer Ronnie Branch. Calling him insane is being way too kind!
    Just a moment...
    02-19-2009, 03:35 PM
    This ronnie branch is a moron. He said Jake is smart. I can't believe so many people follow Jake like a savior. He is stupid and a swindler. If you watched any of his videos you should know. You can see right through him.
    02-19-2009, 07:20 PM
    Go to Youtube and search this:

    "The Lords Champions, Let Us Remember the Good Deeds & Inspirational Video Cast"

    THAT is Ronnie Branch in all his glory. Please report back, dying to know what you think.....
    02-19-2009, 07:39 PM
    I seen some broker jones you tubes that were linked with that ASA ronnie brancn video. I never trusted broker anyway but his videos sealed it for me. Kent Black looks better every day. At least he admits he is an idiot.

    Originally posted by Unregistered

    This ronnie branch is a moron. He said Jake is smart. I can't believe so many people follow Jake like a savior. He is stupid and a swindler. If you watched any of his videos you should know. You can see right through him. Jake= stupid. P2P members= smart


    You call me a moron, I say I love you brother. We are to love our enemies!

    Jake is smart to a degree, but it always catches up with you.

    If you hear my words you can hear right through it

    God Bless!

    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch Boss Free Since 2005 Learn How I live a financial free lifestyle at godsmlmchampions dot com
    Oh, and about the ' Ronnie Branch, ' that's a new one on my list. Hopefully someone can provide us with additional information.
    There are plenty of haters, do not be decieved by the adversary who works in men who will speak a lying foul tongue towards good christians. Your hearing it from Ronnie Branch himself that my goal in life is to keep things honest real and divine with the father Amen to that!

    In life we are commanded by the Lord to love not hate! If you hate, the father is not within you and I'll pray for you.


    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch
    Originally posted by Unregistered

    Go to Youtube and search this:

    "The Lords Champions, Let Us Remember the Good Deeds & Inspirational Video Cast"

    THAT is Ronnie Branch in all his glory. Please report back, dying to know what you think.....
    I'll leave the clueless a clue, You know people by the fruits they bear.


    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch
    Originally posted by Unregistered

    I don't even know what to say after watching that! What a screw ball

    I notice he rides a bike, is he that nut bag that hates cars?
    Ok naysayers and cheerleaders alike, there is one person that is far more a loser than any of us.
    With hate in your heart, you have committed murder according to the Lord. I will pray that you will repent of your sins.

    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch
    Originally posted by Unregistered

    .......and he's Broker's buddy!

    Hey, you wanna see what a nutjob Broker is? Go to TheBrokerJones dot com and you shall see that they are both insane.
    Broker and I are not great friends, but I respect a man who is willing to realize their dreams and goals in life. I would love to be great friends with broker and you!

    I'll pray for that brother..

    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch
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    Ronnie, I am feeling the love.... You bible thumpin' scammer.

    02-21-2009, 03:30 AM

    Originally posted by Unregistered I seen some broker jones you tubes that were linked with that ASA ronnie brancn video. I never trusted broker anyway but his videos sealed it for me. Kent Black looks better every day. At least he admits he is an idiot.


    Personally I respect hard work in men, again when living in the shadow of the adversary your blood will boil with hate and you'll never be a happy person.

    Do you know happiness?

    Your friend in Truth & Light,
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    02-21-2009, 03:33 AM

    Originally posted by Unregistered yah, I just watched his one about synthetic vitamins. What a bunch of crap.
    A capsule will take for ever to dissolve in cold water


    Education is key for success, As a leader in the industry of MLM I am here to bring truth & light as to what goes on in the world of MLM.

    Having seen the bad and good I can speak from experience.

    Thanks for your input brother

    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch


    Originally posted by Unregistered

    THIS FORUM IS GREAT FOR ENTERTAINMENT. cAN SOMEBODY PASS THE POPCORN?


    Don't let the energy of the enemy that shrouds in this thread be your entertainer, because nothing good will come of it.

    It's time to do the medieval dance now that is entertainment...Ok just had to chuckle a little

    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch
    02-21-2009, 04:06 AM

    Originally posted by Unregistered Who the hell is ronnie branch and what makes him right? I agree Jake is a scammer, but who is this ronnie branch guy?


    The adversary helps one say things like "Hell" without us consciousnessly knowing.

    Ronnie Branch is one of the rare few men who Strives to live a righteous lifestyle and is a child of Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour.

    While I am not perfect by any means I will humbly admit, In life I am striving to be a shining example and inspire others to do the same. In life men are not perfect and we should put our trust on the Lord not man. It is the ones who keep climbing and fighting the good fight become great men.

    I am here to share the good news, there is hope. My mission in life is to help be the light love in others lives and many can spit or hate me but I will just love folks in return and smile..

    Evil has no place and will continue to hide from what is good.

    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch

    02-21-2009, 04:18 AM

    I don't take pleasure with my experience with Jake, I would gladly forgive any man who is willing to admit the error in their ways and set things right. We live and learn.

    Perhaps Jake may someday come to understand this, but money is the root of all evil and anybody who mines these roots will corrupt themselves.

    All we can do is pray that things will get better for Jake and other money hungry power mongers. While these words may seem unfair or cowardly to you with the energy of the adversary in you who would want you to be blinded with hate instead. Cast out the enemy today and be free of his tyranny!

    What this world needs is more good guys. Are you man enough ? I challenge you to this... The enemy is weak and is going to lose. People fight over petty things as if they are going to live forever. This world will pass and the petty things will be no more. You need to put your focus on Christ instead because if you don't you are in the hands of the adversary in his torment.

    If you pay attention to todays world affairs you will see The Adversary and soon God In action. I have favorited a video on my youtube channel : ronniebranch

    find it it is 2 hours long and when you see what the adversary is doing your going to find the biggest scam of them all The father of Lies! Man only has scammed folksand is nothing compared to our eternal salvation. Make no mistakes in which side you join because you will thank God you stumbled on this forum message as a reminder of mans wicked ways because it can save your soul to have eternal life through Christ. As a Christian brother, It is my duty to get the word out! If it means saving souls, it is worth it.

    I had somebody steal $6000 from me, I actually smiled on the video cast about it and the Lord gave it right back to me immediately and then blessed me with a huge team in my MLM with compounding residual income.

    Thank you Lord! If you need help you can always add me Skype message

    Skype: ronniebranch

    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch

    2-21-2009, 06:07 PM
    Originally posted by Banker I share the same reaction. He arrived JIT to defend himself from the vague serious of accusations, so I suppose it didn't hurt to award him a few soapbox minutes.

    But a page and a half of ' holy speech ' and ' divine wisdom ' ? How eerie and suspicious can you get?


    Actually I came just so the good people can see my statements, as for the others there is no hope until their thinking changes and they start living in the light.

    Your friend in truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch


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    Originally posted by Unregistered

    Anybody that talks with this "devine" wisdom crap is full of ****...
    Those are words from the adversary. I'll pray the demons get out of your mind my brother.


    God Bless!


    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch
    Originally posted by Banker

    We have a phenomenal fortune teller among us!

    You foresaw that a wretched, transparent ' program ' packed full of desperate ponzi shills would eventually go down the tubes? Well jolly, good golly me! You must be filled with divine power from the heavens!

    While we're still on topic, what else do you ' foresee ' to ' fall ' in the upcoming year? Perhaps ASA Jake's new ponzi of the month, Dr fund? Feel any divine wind rushing to your nostrils as I mention that one?
    Sure I'd be glad to. You know people by the fruits they bear. So when doing business look to the fruits my brother.

    God Bless!


    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch
    Originally posted by Ronniebranch

    Those are words from the adversary. I'll pray the demons get out of your mind my brother.


    God Bless!


    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch
    Last I checked, this isn't the Exorcism Anonymous Club.

    Lunacy such as this also needs to end if you want the ' good people ' to take you even the slightest bit seriously, Ronnie Branch.
    Originally posted by Banker
    If you didn't come here to defend or explain yourself, what have you come to accomplish? Many have lumped you in the black bag of ASA Jake, Shad Foss, Ken Russo, Broker jones, and company.

    Instead of relaying more ' divine ' psychobabble, would it absolutely kill you to explain how you're different than just another Kent Black who attacked the major ponzi profiteer empire to promote his own illegal ponzi filth?

    I'm trying to help you adjust to the right track. If you have nothing better to do than slur religious jabber, the ' good people ' you described are going to ' see right through you ' very quickly.
    Even If I Explained it would not matter because others have already judged me. In the bible it says judge not or you will be judged. On the other hand I'm a simple loving guy who loves helping people be successful. People who know me know I am a hard working Entrepreneur. I am humble I am loving and forgiving and climbing the mountain of glory.

    The sin that is talked about her is against my nature if anybody knows the real me. Why don't you listen to my story on my youtube channel you can hear my great journey

    My youtube channel is : ronniebranch


    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch
    Originally posted by Banker

    Last I checked, this isn't the Exorcism Anonymous Club.

    Lunacy such as this also needs to end if you want the ' good people ' to take you even the slightest bit seriously, Ronnie Branch.
    Actually the good people know people by their fruits. The good people understand we are not here to judge anybody. If there ever is a wrong we are here to forgive and forget. The moment you judge another you will be judged that is how it works.

    I am not here to win anybody, I am actually here to bring light to the forum and do what a good christian will do spread the love of God.

    Thanks for your input brother

    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch
    Originally posted by Unregistered

    It may be the scammers that get rich, but if you play the games right you can make a nice extra income! Scammers like Ronnie Branch!
    Ronnie Branch is one of the most pathetic bible thumping scammers out there
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    Nothing is funnier than a scammer meltdown that gets them the attention they deserve. It is time for MLM to be made illegal!
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    Nothing funnier than a Christ-centered, God-ordained scam! We are still waiting for Ronnie Branch to produce his tax returns and more documentation of his success. Talk is cheap, Ronnie!
    03-01-2009, 04:17 AM

    Originally posted by Unregistered
    It may be the scammers that get rich, but if you play the games right you can make a nice extra income! Scammers like Ronnie Branch!
    Ronnie Branch walks in the Light, It is obvious your walking in the Dark.

    I'll pray for you my brother

    Oh by the way go visit ebay type in

    Happyworldgifts

    My old ebay customers actually love me just like my entire team

    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch
    Originally posted by Ronniebranch

    Yes, I been having people call me asking how they can start changing their life.

    I love to be blessed thank you Lord!

    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch
    It's freaks like this Ronnie Branch character that end up in clock towers with high powered rifles, after they've had their cult compound raided... usually for evading taxes or statutory rape.. really nice piece of work guys like him
    03-01-2009, 01:50 PM

    YAY RONNIE BRANCH! GREAT ENTERTAINMENT. PLEASE PASS THE POPCORN.

    Originally posted by Unregistered

    It's freaks like this Ronnie Branch character that end up in clock towers with high powered rifles, after they've had their cult compound raided... usually for evading taxes or statutory rape.. really nice piece of work guys like him
    Ronnie Branch puts a face with a name and hides from nobody. I can't say the same for the ones living in the dark where they hide in the shadows.

    Cast out those demons brother I'll help you with that

    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch
    Originally posted by Unregistered

    You cannot be serious,cause if you are your just another one of those chumps that hide behind Jesus to run your scams.
    Your friend that sees the light.
    Unregistered
    I feel the pain, you've been hurt in the past and you don't know the good guys or bad when you see one....

    The Adversary works in such ways.... My advice is to make christian friends and when you do your going to know the difference from the good people vs the bad.

    It becomes more and more clear as you walk in the walk and you can see a shadow from miles away.

    God Bless you brother!

    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch Boss Free Since 2005 Learn How I live a financial free lifestyle at godsmlmchampions dot com
    Originally posted by Banker

    What exactly is your relation to P2P, Ronnie Branch?
    Somebody posted my video in this thread which summoned me to this thread. I don't involve myself in hyip or ponzi games I'm a business professional and I operate a real business that has been around since 1950's

    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch
    Day 47 of 77 of my Challenge for MLM Success "The Jester Plays a Trick On The Templar" Part 1of3

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    Get your popcorn The Knight templar takes a bath while reading the bible in a bath tub while the court jester hides his clothes have fun

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    OMG, Did you really just ask that? Can you not read english? Of course he is claiming himself to be the good guy. He has said he was several times.

    Freaks like Ronnie Branch will get theirs in the end.
    So you operate a professional business that's been around since the 50's!

    Lol dont make me laugh ponzi's and pyramids have been around a hell of alot longer than that.
    Did your daddy pass down the ponzi i mean business to you ha ha?

    Hey ronnie was your daddy also a cult member like yourself, lol.

    PS i did not know the insane asylum let wackos have access to the internet

    Not your friend
    PITBULL
    I love wearing the Armor of God It's a beautiful thing brother.

    God Bless!

    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch
    Originally posted by Unregistered

    Speaking of queers. He is taking a shower with a man in his bathroom and reading his bible while taking a shower and then wearing womens clothes. Looks like another queen in this forum.
    WTF did that have to do with any of his scam MLMs?
    Ah it's all an act my good man, That is what generates the humor you should lightened up and watch some good comedies and relax some.

    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch
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    MLM comedy at its finest is drawing 'em in! Thanks, Ronnie!!!!
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    The following is why this thread is so important. These scammers must be exposed so folks will see how harmful these scams are and not get burned. The system doing all the work is the biggest whopper imaginable. 99% of those that pay into scams like this lose money. And, we know this deal imploded very soon after this lie-filled plug. Branch and his ilk need to be in the graybar hotel so that they will be stopped from promoting these scams.

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    An income that always comes in month after month for the rest of your life and you do not have to do anything. The home business you will create with Automatic Builder will grant you this.
    I was young when I was first introduced to the concept of MLM at a local Amway meeting. Many representatives constantly asked me, “Why not join? Don’t you have the dream???”
    Oh I had the dream and little did they know that I had been observing them for months. All I saw were a bunch of people buying motivation, dreams and digging themselves deeper and deeper into the red, BUT NEVER succeeding in improving their home business by gaining more customers and representatives through promotion. I asked – “What good is a bunch of endless motivation if the team never grows and more importantly your income?”
    I studied the concept of MLM for a few more years before I finally decided to give it a shot. I tried forum advertising, dropping off business cards, talking to leads, putting up flyers and signs. 9 months went by, and my downline was still empty, except for a single spillover! I left the business and wondered in frustration – “Why didn’t I succeed? Why didn’t my promotions work?”
    I found the answers to my questions. A year later, I was introduced to the Automatic Builder home business system and Nutronix International through team leaders Todd Heaps, Gary Smith and Ronnie Branch.

    “What is so amazing about Automatic Builder?”
    I can’t stand all the hype scattered all over the internet today on starting your own home business. So I will not bother you with any. Consequently, I’m not going to waste your time either by trying to play on your emotions or by giving you endless promises of making millions of dollars. All I can think when I see these websites is BLAH BLAH BLAH….
    Allow me to simply explain how our home business system helps everyone achieve results.
    Automatic Builder is the marketing and support team for Nutronix International, a popular health and wellness company in existence for 9 years. It is the presentation package that you will use to show your home business opportunity to the world.
    It is a set of websites, auto-responders, training tools and methods of gowing your home business and so much more. This is what markets your home business and trains you to become better at operating it.
    Nutronix has been around long enough to build up a solid global reputation. The company is debt free, extremely stable, and yet it is still very young. With so much growth potential ahead, Nutronix proves to be a great nutritional MLM business to build. Right now, the opportunity is especially ripe!
    Your Automaticbuilder back office contains all of the most proven online and offline business building strategies on how to grow your home business.
    Automaticbuilder is just that, automatic. With just a couple of hours a day or week you can run a home business that can make you and your family financially independent. It does almost all of the work for you. All you do is point people to your Automaticbuilder website to take the tour. It will present the entire business to them, it will contact them, and it will follow up with them. How easy is that?
    Your Automaticbuilder members’ area is full of flash and audio presentations, home business building strategies, internet marketing secrets, special offers and promotions to help you build a bigger and better home business.
    Automaticbuilder is the set of tools that will help you create the most incredibly lucrative long term residual income you can imagine.
    You have the potential to earn an extra $300.00, $500.00, $1,000.00 a month even $5,000.00 to $10,000.00 dollars a month. Believe it, it’s true, no hype here. There are some Automaticbuilder distributors making over $20,000.00 a month.
    With the power of the internet you can actually have your own an international home business in over 60 countries. You can actually have a worldwide home business of your own. How awesome is that?
    What does Automaticbuilder have going for it?
    No Selling! Reliable, Credible, Ethical
    No Meetings! Make $$$ while you sleep
    No or low risk! No Inventory To Buy Or Ship
    No Phone Calls! Unique and Amazing Products
    Tools and Training Ability to make $$$ right away
    Advertising Co Ops Six figure plus income potential
    Passive Income Stream Utilize the Power of the Internet
    Internet Marketing Tips You can build it in your Spare Time
    Guaranteed Tour Takers Very low start-up costs (Start for ~Free~)
    Build a Business Online or Offline A proven system that you put on Auto-Pilot
    Weekly Conference Calls Build a business in over 60 countries
    “The company sounds amazing, why is its team concept better than other programs?”
    This is one of the most important concepts the designers of Automatic Builder truly believe in. After all, what good is finding a promising company if your business never grows? The Automatic Builder creators implemented a very unique and powerful method that would help its members drive direct consistent traffic and quality prospects to its Nutronix representatives. They partnered with Horizons Marketing and developed an outstanding, affordable lead package system called Guaranteed Tour Takers (GTTs).
    When you join Automatic Builder, you are provided with a lead-capture page and a contact manager website. In your AutomaticBuilder back office you will learn how to take advantage of GTTs. These are specialized leads with an interest in starting a home business.
    They are guaranteed to visit your Automatic Builder website and view the opportunity. These are people just like you, they’re looking for a profitable method to earn money online with their own home business. Each package consists of 100 tour takers, and the sign-up rate is usually 4-6%.
    Doesn’t that sound better than picking random, un-qualified strangers at malls and restaurants to join your home business? Isn’t that better than littering business cards and flyers all over local colleges, churches and supermarkets?
    The key to building a successful home business is to attract qualified people, and Automatic Builder has enabled every member to do this with minimal effort!
    The Automatic Builder Team Goal:
    With AutomaticBuilder You only need 2 strong legs to earn a substantial monthly. Most other MLM companies require 3 to 8 legs. That type of system is old, out dated and 99% of the time fails for every member.
    Question: What is the trick to building a business that only grows with more members and never shrinks?
    Answer: You want to build an MLM home business in way so that everyone benefits; so that everyone makes money and is empowered to continue strengthening their team building efforts.
    In order to effectively build each team member’s downline, you must build an extremely stable 1st leg. To ensure that each member has this strong downline, the Automatic Builder program helps people build “powerlines.” The result is a long, single line of sponsorship.
    Our Automatic Builder team will help you generate your 1st powerline by First helping you organize all referrals into one, solid line and Second by placing spillover and additional members into your powerline.
    Once your first powerline is strong, stable and steady, all we ask is that you find at least one good person to help start your second powerline. It is possible this person may even be offered as spillover by me or another team member. We just ask that you try to help build your own team by working with the team and learning how through the multitudes of training materials in your AutomaticBuilder back office.
    So what would you need to do if you were part our AutomaticBuilder Team?
    Well here is exactly what you will NEVER do.

    • You will never have to work any set hours
    • You will never have to design or maintain a web site business on your own
    • You will never have to sell or explain any products
    • You will never have to approach family or friends
    • You will never have to talk to customers
    • You will never have to take or ship orders

    Automaticbuilder is an incredible system that no other company can even come close too.

    • The Automatic Builder Web Site does 95% of the work
    • It presents the Automatic Builder Opportunity so you never have too
    • It allows everyone to try the entire system for FREE
    • It automatically follows up with everyone who tours the web site through a series of informative emails so you never have too
    • It automatically begins training new members through a step by step series of emails so you never have too
    • The Automatic Builder Web Site is professionally maintained and updated

    “Alright, how do I get started?”
    When you join AutomaticBuilder for the first time, you will be given a special bonus: A free bottle of the popular Sublingual B-12 (+$2.95 S&H).
    However, in order to take part of the AutomaticBuilder/Nutronix home business opportunity, you must go on a monthly autoship for at least 40 PV ($40.00). You can join AutomaticBuilder and Nutronix International in one of three ways.

    • Junior Executive = 40 CV = $40.00/month
    • Executive = 100 CV = $100.00/month
    • Senior Executive = 500 CV = $500 1st month, $100.00/month

    If you would like to start building your AutomaticBuilder home business, but you are currently on a limited budget, I recommend signing as a “Junior Executive Director.”
    However, if your serious about operating a home business I strongly recommend signing up as an “Executive Director.” Your commission bonuses in the Nutronix compensation plan are slightly impacted by your director level, and “Executive Director” status will allow you to earn more from the powerline and fast start bonuses in the short and long term.
    If you have some finances to contribute and you are extremely serious about building this business, our team would love to see you join as a “Senior Director.” This status will bring extra bonuses from Nutronix and it shows leaders that you are truly serious about being a team player for the long haul. We will take notice of this and be sure to invest our Automatic Builder profits back into you and the powerline.
    Special Bonus for anyone that joins as a Senior Director:
    I will pay for your next month’s autoship!
    That’s a $100.00 bonus!
    If you’re ready to start your home business with our AutomaticBuilder team, use the link below and go to the main Automatic Builder website. Fill out the information, and then you will be able to take a short tour of the opportunity.
    Click HERE to go to the official Automatic Builder site
    Bill Gibson

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    More On Automatic Builder The Perfect Home Based Business

    Posted by billg123 on August 30, 2006
    Anyone out there serious about starting an “HONEST” home based business?
    Automatic Builder realistically pays $5,000, $10,000 even $40,000 per month.
    Starting a legitimate proven home based business will never get any easier than this.
    This web site only provides “Proven Facts” about the Automatic Builder System “Not Fiction”.
    If it’s money you want, Automatic Builder can and “WILL” earn you a steady stream of money, whether it’s an extra $5,000 – $10,000 per month working part-time or even $40,000 each month working full-time.
    In just 11 months Automatic Builder has helped thousands of people start their own online business and generate sales well in excess of 3 million dollars.
    I’m Bill Gibson, an Executive Director with Automatic Builder living in Ann Arbor Michigan.
    I along with the Automatic Builder System can make this happen for you very quickly.
    HOW?
    The Automatic Builder System is completely hands off it does 95% of the work for you, thus allowing you to earn a full-time income while spending most of your time doing what you enjoy.
    Some of you have already toured the main Automatic Builder Web Site and you know it comes with all the bells and whistles, music, animated graphics, video tour streaming, everything a professional web site must have to be successful.
    If you have not, you will be given the chance to see this amazing web site after this brief introduction.
    The Automatic Builder Web Site is a completely automated marketing dream.
    So what would you need to do if you were part of the Automatic Builder Team?
    Well let’s see exactly what you will never do.

    • You will never have to work any set hours…
    • You will never have to design or maintain a web site business on your own…
    • You will never have to sell or explain any products…
    • You will never have to approach family or friends…
    • You will never have to talk to customers or follow up with opportunity leads….
    • You will never have to take or ship orders….
    • You will soon visit the Automatic Builder Web Site at the link below.

    Here you can expect to find an incredible system that no other company can even come close too.

    • The Automatic Builder Web Site does 100% of the work…”
    • It presents the Automatic Builder Opportunity so you never have too…
    • It allows everyone to try the entire system for FREE…
    • It automatically follows up with everyone who tours the web site through a series of informative emails so you never have too….
    • It automatically begins training new members through a step by step series of emails so you never have too…
    • The Automatic Builder Web Site is professionally maintained and updated…

    You can join Automatic Builder “FREE” and have your own personal Automatic Builder Web Site instantly generated…
    Click Here Take The FREE Tour of Automatic Builder Today!!!
    Visit our new website at http://www.healthytreasures.net/ It contains all of the most advanced knowledge and training on how to succeed in your new Automaticbuilder Home Business.


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    Quickstart Your Automatic Builder Online Home based Business

    Posted by billg123 on August 28, 2006
    Quickstart Your Automatic Builder Online Home based Business

    How Do I Quickstart My Automatic Builder Online Home based Business?
    1. Go to your website AB Login Page and login to your Automatic Builder members area.
    2. Click on MEMBER LOGIN in the TOP RIGHT of the main site to be brought to the login screen page.
    3. Now into your LOGIN page, press the LOGIN BUTTON and then enter your username into the login menu. It will be in the information you were sent by email when you joined up for your (FREE 30 Day Trial).
    4. Your login menu will look like the illustration graphic below to give you an example of what your login menu will look like overall.


    5. Once you fill in the login information, then you click the OK BUTTON.
    6. Now once into your Automatic Builder members area after you logged on just look to your LEFT SIDE MENU and select HOW TO HAVE A QUICKSTART to learn more information about how to quickstart your AutomaticBuilder Online Homebased Business.
    How Do I Upgrade My Automatic Builder Online Home based Business?
    1. If you have joined within the last 30 Days of your (30 Day Trial) to try the Automatic Builder Online Home based Business. you would then pick your level of one of the 3 Levels Of Director’s Status to really benefit into this business immediately (I would recommend that you would atleast become an Executive Director for maximum commissions and benefits) as fast as you can so that you can quickly benefit earning residual income when you bring new members under you into the business.
    2. There are about 3 Executive Levels Of Director Status please refer to the illustration graphic examples below of these levels of director status you can option to join:
    3. You can become a Jr. Executive:
    4. You can become a Executive Director:
    5. You can become a Senior Executive Director. almost the same as a executive director status but with more value pack of monthly nutronix health products for your volume.
    6. For an example of the 3 Levels Of Director Status in the illustration graphic below.
    Become an Active Jr. Executive < Click Here >
    Become an Active Executive Director < Click Here >
    Become an Active Senior Director < Click Here >
    7. Also if you upgrade today, you can also be entered into Automat Builder Monthly Drawing to win NEW MEMBERS PUT UNDER YOUR DOWNLINE more information of the following of this special great monthly contest:
    8. Now visit our teams training site for additional help and advanced training. http://www.healthytreasures.net/
    Here Is The Examples Of The 3 SEPERATE DRAWINGS listings.
    Upgrade to the Junior Executive Level.
    You will be entered into drawing to win 3 Personally Sponsored NEW Members.
    (open to new Automatic Builder / Nutronix members)
    Upgrade to the Executive Director Level.
    You will be entered into drawing to win 6 Personally Sponsored NEW Members.
    (open to new Automatic Builder / Nutronix members)
    Upgrade to the Senior Executive Director Level.
    You will be entered into drawing to win 10 Personally Sponsored NEW Members.
    (open to new Automatic Builder / Nutronix members)
    NOTE: You MUST upgrade through your Automatic Builder Members Area to Qualify to Win.
    Not a member of Automatic Builder ? Click Here to Take The FREE Tour

    Posted in Automatic Builder, automaticbuilder, home based business, homebased, Homebased Business, Homebased Businesses, MLM, Network Marketing, Nutronix, work at home, Work From Home | Leave a Comment »

    Automatic Builder The Complete Work At Home Package

    Posted by billg123 on August 28, 2006
    Automatic Builder
    The Complete Work At Home Package
    1) Automatic Builder is a set of websites, auto-responders, training tools and so much more. It is your presentation package. It also contains all of the most proven business building strategies on how to grow your business, online and offline.

    2) Automatic Builder has partnered up with Nutronix International, a 7 year old International Debt Free company. Their target markets are the 250 Billion-Dollar health, wellness and preventative health care industry. Their products are innovative, effective and affordable. Basically the products make you look and feel 10 years younger.

    3) Automatic Builder provides a Compensation Plan that is just Amazing, Simple, Lucrative and designed to put $$$$ into your pocket right away, as well as developing for you a VERY high end residual income.

    4) Automatic Builder is a system that is so simple anyone can do it. It provides a Proven Plan to follow. They show you how to market your business online so you don’t have to call friends and family. There is no need to waste time talking to people who are not interested in an Internet business.

    Automatic Builder has a marketing system that does it all for you. All you have to do is point people to your website.
    It is Just That Simple.

    To get the facts for yourself:

    Take The FREE Tour Here
    P.S. Through a special Promotional Offer
    we’ve arranged with the company, you can actually test-drive
    this business for the next 30 days for FREE


    Posted in Automatic Builder, automaticbuilder, homebased, Homebased Business, Homebased Businesses, MLM, Network Marketing, Nutronix, work at home, Work From Home | Leave a Comment »

    Conference Call Scheduele

    Posted by billg123 on August 26, 2006
    Tuesday – 8:00 PM EST – Product Knowledge Conference:
    Host – Bob Bremner
    Founding Member/Co-Owner of Nutronix
    Tuesday: – 9:30 PM EST – The Success Team Training Call.
    Phone or Online conference center
    Download Internet Conference software from this address for this call only. http://www.tstmeeting.com
    Wednesday – 9:00 PM EST- Training Call:
    Host – Allan Hordal
    Founding Member of Nutronix
    Internet Only, not available on the phone line.
    Download Internet Conference software from this address.
    http://www.hotconference.com/softwar...hp?id=50578546
    Thursday – 9:30 PM EST – New Member TRAINING CALL!
    Get your Business Launched the RIGHT way!
    Host – Art Phelps
    Co-Owner of AutomaticBuilder.com
    Friday – 9:30 PM AEDST – Australia Sydney Time
    This time converts to 5:30 AM EST in the USA
    Pacific Rim Conference and Training:
    Host – The Fantastic Ian Moore From Down Under!
    30-60 Minute Training and Q&A.
    Internet Only, not available on the phone line.
    Download Internet Conference software from this address
    http://www.hotconference.com/softwar...hp?id=50578546
    Friday – 12:00 PM EST (Noon) – Live Q&A:
    Host – Jim and Lynn Wood
    Founding members of Nutronix
    Saturday – 11:00 AM EST – Advanced Training, Business
    Building Strategies and Compensation Plan Overview
    followed by Q&A:
    To join us on our conferences you can visit the Online conference center or call into our Phone Line: 512-305-4600 pincode 42365#
    *If you have not visited our Internet Conference Center download the free software to take advantage of this great training tool, available 24/7.* download the software here http://www.hotconference.com/softwar...hp?id=50578546
    Want to know the correct local time to dial into the calls if you live outside of the US? Check out the world clock at http://www.timeanddate.com (EST is Eastern Standard Time in the United States)

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    Why Nutronix?

    Posted by billg123 on August 26, 2006
    Biggest Reason – Convergence!
    For the First Time in History, there are
    4 Expanding
    and Converging Trends that are Creating Fortunes for those who find a way to participate.
    Internet – Because of the ease of doing business over the Internet people are creating fortunes. It is cheapest and most efficient way to reach thousands of people in a short time. Studies report that there will be over one billion users in less than eight years!
    The Baby-Boomers– 18,000 people are turning 50 every single day looking for ways to stay healthy and secure their financial future.
    Home-Based Businesses Over 14,000 people start their own home business every day. People are looking for ways to make more money and have more free time.
    The Wellness IndustryA majority of people would rather try something that’s All Natural, Easy to Take, That Can’t Hurt Them before taking a drug or prescription medication.
    The Fundamentals are present with Nutronix International to capitalize on all 4 major trends
    * Solid 8 year old company poised for massive growth.
    * Affordable and effective, consumable products.
    * A doable, Incredibly Lucrative Compensation Plan.
    *
    A way go from ground zero to thousands per month in as little 60-90 days.
    *
    An automated “fool proof” system that works for everyone who works it!
    Networking Marketing is Changing! Today we sit on the doorstep of a new era within this industry. A time when the challenges and obstacles that millions have faced over the last 5 decades have been addressed and eliminated. A time when technology has evened the playing field for anyone and everyone.

    AutomaticBuilder.com and Nutronix International are
    The Companies on the Cutting Edge of this New Era
    Visit Healthy Treasures For More Information
    Click Here to Take The FREE Tour

    Posted in Automatic Builder, automaticbuilder, homebased, Homebased Business, Homebased Businesses, MLM, Network Marketing, Nutronix, work at home, Work From Home | Leave a Comment »

    All It Takes To Succeed

    Posted by billg123 on August 26, 2006
    All It Takes To Succeed Is To Click Here

    There are millions and millions of people worldwide looking for something that really works. By sharing your Automatic Builder Website with them you can build a tremendous business. Enrolling just a few can launch your Automatic Builder business and build a HUGE Residual Income!
    Every obstacle to your success has been removed…
    Don’t have the time? You Don’t need it! The system does the work!
    Don’t have the money? This is the only Real Business that you can own and build for little or no cost!
    Don’t like to sell? You don’t have to! The System presents the Business for you! Just welcome people to your team!
    Don’t know anyone? Doesn’t matter! There are 100’s of millions people looking for a home-based business. We’ll show you how to get your Automatic Builder in front of them.
    Don’t like Network Marketing? I understand BUT this is not Traditional Network Marketing. This type of Internet Networking is the wave of the future and Automatic Builder is leading the way! (The smartest business decision we could have made 50 years ago was to buy a McDonalds Franchise for under $5000. We’d be multi-millionaires!)
    Use the Automatic Builder system to introduce this to just few other people and you can build a business that will reward you for the rest of your life. Introduce it to more and it will grow bigger and faster!
    Click Here to Take The FREE Tour

    Posted in Automatic Builder, automaticbuilder, Homebased Business, Homebased Businesses, MLM, Network Marketing, Nutronix, work at home, Work From Home | Leave a Comment »

    The Power Of One Strategy

    Posted by billg123 on August 25, 2006
    We are building Massive Powerlines and thousands of others are going to continue to enroll in AutomaticBuilder. Our success is based on Teamwork and we can help you make money by placing other team members below you.
    We keep it simple by identifying 1 person at a time who truly want to build their business, then help them become National and International Directors with Nutronix where they will be making an average of $1000+ per month.
    From there you will have a foundation for a business that will take on a life of its own, continue to grow without your day to day efforts, while providing a recurring income of thousands, even tens of thousands of dollars per month.
    Click Here – Take The FREE Tour

    Posted in Automatic Builder, automaticbuilder, homebased, Homebased Business, Homebased Businesses, MLM, Network Marketing, Nutronix, work at home, Work From Home | Leave a Comment »

    Automatic Builder Links

    Posted by billg123 on August 25, 2006
    Automatic Builder help and Training
    Automatic Builder Ezine
    Success Team Blog
    Nutronix Payplan
    Nutronix Forum

    Take The FREE Tour Here


    Posted in Automatic Builder, automaticbuilder, homebased, Homebased Business, Homebased Businesses, MLM, Network Marketing, Nutronix, work at home, Work From Home | Leave a Comment »

    About Nutronix

    Posted by billg123 on August 25, 2006
    Our mission is to provide the finest natural health care products possible, and to provide a fair and honest opportunity for our Business Associates.
    Nutronix International operates from an 8600 S.F. Office/Warehouse complex in Mechanicsville, Virginia, conveniently located near the Rt. 360 interchange of Interstate 295. Established in June, 1999 by Bob Bremner, John Moates and Harrison (Chief) Nesbit, the company is debt free and has experienced a steady and sustained growth since its startup.
    The company presently markets its products through a network of over 16,000 Independent Distributors located in more than 80 countries throughout the world.
    As you browse through the website, you will find that we have assembled an array of the most extraordinary life-changing nutritional products ever put together.

    • Coral Calcium products from Okinawa, Japan.
    • Cellfood products from Nuscience Corporation, recognized as the world’s leading developer of oxygen based products.
    • The finest weight loss product in the world – The Lean Connection – with research to back it up.
    • The Coral Spa line of body and skin care products, including the patented Elogen Skin Care System.
    • The finest line of nutraceuticals available anywhere. Take a look at the research behind the ingredients in the Ellagic Plus for example.

    * Solid 5 year old company poised for massive growth.
    * Affordable and effective, consumable products.
    * A doable, Incredibly Lucrative Compensation Plan.
    *
    A way go from ground zero to thousands per month in as little as 60-90 days.
    *
    An automated “fool proof” system that works for everyone who works it!
    View Nutronix Website Here

    Click Here to Take The FREE Automatic Builder Tour

    Posted in Automatic Builder, automaticbuilder, homebased, Homebased Business, Homebased Businesses, MLM, Network Marketing, Nutronix, work at home, Work From Home | Leave a Comment »
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