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    Re: Ronnie Branch....god fearing or scammer?? Shaklee Scam

    So, the previous post talking about making 40 grand a month and wild success is a total lie. The automatic builder for Nutronix / Berry Tree was a total scam and everyone lost money except little nutcase Ronnie. "Out of 4,000 distributors, I was the only one that found a way to succeed in my previous company" says Ronnie. And, Ronnie thinks that the FDA and law enforcement won't nail him and his fellow Shaklee scammers making medical claims that they can't substantiate with double blind clinical studies.
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    He got you all to watch it. that is all he wanted. he will be back with more I am sure.
    I would rather use my 5.5 minutes to jack off than to watch a jack offs video
    Actually I do these videos to make people laugh, there is to much bad going on this world in my good man and its nice to take your mind off from things.

    You should watch my Don Lapre Video on my youtube channel... The infamous guy who helped you land your first million dollars...

    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch
    Originally posted by pitbull

    So you operate a professional business that's been around since the 50's!

    Lol dont make me laugh ponzi's and pyramids have been around a hell of alot longer than that.
    Did your daddy pass down the ponzi i mean business to you ha ha?

    Hey ronnie was your daddy also a cult member like yourself, lol.

    PS i did not know the insane asylum let wackos have access to the internet

    Not your friend
    PITBULL



    Actually my dad drinks a lot I had to get away from that... I turned out to be the only good son in the family. Cult members are not humble and likely don't follow the scriptures in the bible. They also don't give money to people either ... I was in my crusader armor walking around town giving people money it was an awesome feeling my good man. I recorded it Just let me know if you want to watch another good show.

    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch
    Originally posted by Unregistered

    I would like to see you dressed up as a woman and take your show to a local supermarket. Oh Oh, better yet - take your jester show to the local prison with a bucket of butter and a few really good romantic songs.

    I double dog dare ya.........
    Ah it wouldn't suit the theme of the entertainment. Good fruits and Bad don't mix to well my good man... If you have any real suggestions I'll be glad hear them from my fans.

    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie
    Originally posted by Unregistered

    Would you rub your head on my shiny bottom and make a wish?
    Righteous men are in love with God my good man... The body and flesh is weak, if your eye balls cause you to sin pluck them out for the sake of saving you from sin

    Or better yet ask for Jesus for forgiveness to keep your eyes.


    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch
    Originally posted by Unregistered

    Yes, I am 9, Why don't you post your address and I will visit you and show you just how bad this 9 year old is going to beat the **** out of you, it will be a good warm-up for when I find Nick.
    I'll bet Ronnie gives you a great big stiffy - I can picture the 2 of you in the shower frolicking with a bar of soap.....

    Oh - by the way, what do you usually wear when you're out beatin' the living sh*t out of people from the internet - yo mama's great big gaunch? You're probably a 5' 4" skinny little girlie pr*ck that couldn't beat himself out of a wet condom.
    03-04-2009, 04:24 AM


    I'm not in this program you guys are in, but if you lost money I am quite sorry friends. If your open to the possibility of building long term residual income from a man who has done great things and learned from in the past on what we must look for to build sustainable income for the longterm I'd be happy to help you.

    Serious inquires can add me on skype : ronniebranch

    If you like peace, the real deal fun friends who all work together to build checks that come in each and every month I'm your man to help. Out of 4,000 distributors, I was the only one that found a way to succeed in my previous company and later went off to do great things in a new company just went up 3 ranks. Of Course God gets the Glory I just be a good steward. Details will be provided once u add me skype only!

    I can teach you how to have people call you and express interest in what your about. After doing it for 3 years I can safely say I have cracked the code through trial and error so if you want to learn this stuff its not to hard but you need a mentor who can show you and keeps things real without having dollar signs in their eyes which makes them totally blind.

    I've tried hyip,autosurfs and have lost.... I did something about it and am quite glad I did about 3 years ago...

    My products have improved my eyesight, health and peace of mind. Our infrastructure is the only one that the FDA would never touch because we are classified as a food packaging company. About 90% of the company's out there would be shut down because they are pharmacitual drugs stimulant vitamins. If they ever passed a law to prove their products get in the blood stream and this is due to becase there products are not in clinical studies and or not legally structured right for longterm... More details will follow later for serious inquires... If not no worries...

    Happy investing !


    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch

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    This Ronnie is sure singing a different tune than the one viciously attacking me for sharing the truth.
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    Ronnie Branch.. I thank you for your honesty and love my brother. Please post as often as you wish here, I truly enjoy your posts.
    In this world (and forum) full of hate and bitterness your posts are a refreshing breath of air.

    Best wishes,
    Rick
    Rick, make sure to collect your free koolaid on your way out of ' The Way of the Holy Ronnie ' Assembly. Also, be sure not to ask any intelligent questions. Just drink it.
    Originally posted by Unregistered

    Same ol' BS from the P2P distraction club.They can't face the reality! With each passing day the likelyhood of a P2P resurrection is fading away.

    Where your master Nick? Admit it,you dont have a clue. Wheres the refunds?

    It's own up time, P2P is up sh*t creek without a paddle.
    I'm starting to think ' Ronnie Branch ' isn't even really Ronnie Branch, but just a desperate gimmick used by the depraved ponzi shill club. It's quite simple to ' steal ' an identity when playing around on a forum. WLD does not even require a legitimate email address.

    I've searched for Ronnie Branch on other forums, and although the persona matches the assumed identity witnessed here, it does not seem to include such ridiculous, irrelevant references to religion. In other words, the real Ronnie Branch doesn't seem to represent himself as an absolute Bible thumping lunatic, except within his own ' video ' productions.
    03-06-2009, 06:59 PM


    Glad you folks enjoy a good laugh, I realize I can't please everybody but I love them just the same. We are commanded to love our enemies and if you think about it if we hate in return we really are hypocrites.

    I will surely pray for all the people who have not taken Jesus in their life because for the non believers and having the Wrath of God on them is something more serious then precious metals,power and pleasures in life to enjoy now.

    When we die and it will happen every action we take, we will look back and likely will wish things could of been different. Now is your chance to take Jesus in your life and lift your worries from the world and cast it on the Lord.

    You will Thank God & Your brothers and Sisters for helping to spread this message it can save you!

    Spread the love and joy, God knows what is good for us he is perfect truly wants us to live a fulfilled life.

    When I was homeless back in the 90's my family really did not care for me, it was the kindness of a stranger that transformed my life to be who I am today to make a long story short.

    The compassion and humility helps us shine in business and God will bless that.

    You are powerful beyond belief, but only if you utilize your potential.

    Just felt like sharing some thoughts that's on my mind.


    Your friend in Truth & Light,
    Ronnie Branch


    Originally posted by Unregistered

    I AM mouthing off from my computer, never said I wasn't. The only difference here is I am NOT speculating like the naysayers do - only asking for proof.

    If you know that P2P is a scam please provide us all with the proof. That's all we want.

    I think that gerbil is tickling your ****** to the point of distraction and you're not getting the point.
    Mouthing off is your right. Mouthing off and constantly making a complete fool out of yourself is another issue, but as we've all been able to witness, it's also apparently another on your list of rights.

    I'm also anxious to know if you and Ronnie happened to complete the same ' special ' educational program in your former elementary education days? I trust you will pardon me for assuming that you both passed.
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    Re: Ronnie Branch....god fearing or scammer?? Shaklee Scam

    Case in Point

    May 3, 2013 | by Jonathan Brand Under the current US Federal Trade Commission, multi-level marketing product-based pyramid schemes, (MLMs), violate plain ethical boundries with legal impunity. In creating this public warning website back in mid-December 2012, The authors of shaklee-pyramid-scam.com, including myself, acted out of an urgent sense of duty to protect the public from a confidence game that remains unregulated in the United States and costs trusting participants billions of dollars each year through the use of deciept as evidenced throughout this site, countless others including mlm-thetruth.com and 20 years of acedemic research by top pyramid scheme experts, Dr. John M. Taylor and Robrt Fitzpatrick. The heartbreaking fact is that the DSA lobbies (bribes) named, known public offcials who oversee the Federal Trade Comission. The result is that MLM companies like Shaklee, Herbalife, NuSkin and Amway can legally operate on US territory. The immediate effect is that multi-level marketers (MLMs) can use perversely unethical and seemingly lawless tactics to con people out of earnings with confidence games dressed as "business opportunities." Below, you will find the reason Shaklee hires law firms to go after its victims who speak out and tell the truth: Shaklee is rightfully classified as a product-based pyramid scheme where approximately 99.8% of participants lose their entire investment. A business that doesn't rely on the use of deceit can withstand varied public opinions being published online whereas, a business structured around a confidence game will begin to crash when the truth is exposed openly. To a legitimate business, publication of the facts is standard. To a confidence game, publication of the facts constitutes an attack.
    Again, where are those tax returns of the wildly successful Ronnie Branch???
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    More for math impaired Ronnie. MLM-thetruth's Dr Jon Taylor writes:


    3. Markets quickly become saturated with MLM recruitment.


    MLM spokesmen have argued that the expected saturation and resultant market collapse has not occurred because some MLMs are still operating after decades of recruitment –and the market is nowhere near saturated, with less than 1% of total domestic sales accounted for by MLMs. But the issue is not whether or not total saturation has occurred – which would be absurd. Why would a town of 100,000 people need 100,000 distributors? Perhaps ten or twenty would be all the town could support, with new distributors finding it harder and harder to recruit or sell to persons who had not already been contacted. It is market saturation that is relevant, not total saturation. Some have been contacted multiple times and will never buy.


    Market saturation is high in the US, and this is not just for individual MLMs, but for the aggregate collection of hundreds of extant MLMs operating. We know from worldwide feedback that MLM recruitment is both predatory and extremely viral, quickly spreading to other states and countries as saturation makes recruiting difficult in market after market.


    As far as market collapse is concerned, this is replaced by continuous collapse in MLM. New recruits are continually replacing dropouts – in revolving door fashion. And as I suggested, eventually MLMs must recruit in other countries, or the MLM may start new product divisions and start the chain of recruitment all over again – a process I call re-pyramiding. This is combined with deceptive recruitment to keep the endless chain of recruitment going. Nu Skin, for example, has done this in numerous countries and with several new product divisions, including Interior Design Nutritionals, Big Planet, Pharmanex, PhotoMax, and others suspiciously appearing on the scene with inordinate frequency.


    I hired some students to do a random survey of residents in Utah County, which has the highest concentration of MLMs in the U.S. headquartered there. We found four MLM distributors for every one customer who is not a part of the network of distributors.

    4. Attrition is high among MLM firms.

    Contrary to the representations of MLM promoters, MLM participation does not lead to permanent, passive, residual, annuity-like income, except for a few at the top or who got in at the beginning of the chain of recruitment. Attrition rates for participants in MLM companies are extremely high.
    Replacement of dropouts is accomplished by continual recruitment of a revolving door of new recruits, which is one reason “TOPPs” (top-of-the-pyramid promoters), or “kingpins,” garner a disproportionate share of the revenues. TOPPs are the driving force of MLMs.


    MLM companies are careful to keep information on attrition rates hidden. However, a Google search for “MLM” – associated with the words “turnover” or “retention” or “attrition” – reveals a great concern about the number of participants that drop out each year. And some of the most damaging evidence of high attrition rates has come from court cases in which MLM officials have been forced to reveal data they have attempted to keep from participants, the media, and from law enforcement.
    For example, according to Eric Scheibeler, author of the book Merchants of Deception, from a 2005 Quixtar (Amway) internal management report, out of 10,000 participating IBOs, only 414 remained in the business after the 5th renewal. That’s a 95.9% dropout rate in only five years for the largest of all MLMs – truly a smoking gun!



    Melaleuca at one time claimed to have the highest retention rate in the MLM industry – 94.5%. But in a Texas court case, it was revealed that instead of an average attrition rate of 5.5% per year, it was 5.5%per month, for an annual dropout rate of approximately 66%! That’s a huge difference. Prepaid Legal also revealed on its annual report that half of its customers and distributors quit each year. Nu Skin and Excel Telecommunications also reported such high dropout rates. (Robert Fitzpatrick, 10 Big Lies of Multi-level Marketing).


    In sharp contrast, one nationwide survey of small businesses showed that over the lifetime of a business, 39% are profitable, 30% break even, and 30% lose money. Cumulatively, 64.2% of businesses failed in a 10-year period. (William Dennis, Nat’l Federation of Independent Businesses, reported by Karen E. Klein in Business Week, September 30, 1999).
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    More from our dear colleague, Dr. Jon Taylor:
    5. Prices for MLM products are not competitive, so MLMs depend for sales revenues on personal consumption by participants, who are lured into purchasing through misleading income and product claims.

    Having to support a bloated hierarchy of “distributors,” MLMs price their products too high to compete with standard retail outlets. I conducted an MLM price survey, comparing prices of multi-vitamins products offered by ten retail outlets – with an average price of $11.22, with those offered by ten MLM companies – with an average price of $61.22 – over five times as much. Even at wholesale, after adding taxes and shipping, MLMs prices were more than triple the price of products from competing outlets. Based on initial checking, a similar price disparity is evident also for exotic fruit drinks, which are flagship products for many of the newer MLMs.

    Whenever abysmal average earnings of MLM participants are disclosed, the DSA/MLM cartel argues that most recruits sign up to buy the products at wholesale prices. When one makes price comparisons for comparable products from competing retail outlets, this argument is obviously bogus. Why would a person pay $46 wholesale (including retail tax and shipping) for a fruit drink when one can buy a drink with equivalent benefits at a supermarket for $12? Our correspondence with MLM victims suggests that most people quit buying the products from the MLM after dropping out.

    Of course, the MLM promoter will claim unique features that justify the high prices, but laboratories that have analyzed the ingredients have found such claims misleading. Many pitches for MLM “potions and lotions” are the modern equivalent of “snake oil peddlers” of a bygone era.
    It is not my purpose here to expose numerous misleading product claims of typical MLM companies. For those who are interested, Dr. Steven Barrett, sponsor of quackwatch.org and mlmwatch.org has posted on his many web sites extensive evidence of misleading product claims for “potions and lotions” which seem to be endemic to the MLM field.

    People buy to qualify for commissions and advancement in the pyramid of participants, enticed by prospects of easy money from building a downline. There is little evidence of a significant customer base, with the possible exception of party plans. The distinction between buyers and sellers is blurred. The sellers are the buyers, and the buyers are the sellers – to themselves and their family. This is called “personal (or internal) consumption” a key legal distinction in proving illegality in some court cases. Commissions from purchases of huge downlines primarily enrich founders and TOPPs. James Kohm of the FTC refers to such schemes as “little more than a transfer scheme, dooming the vast majority of participants to financial failure.” (Letter to Neil Offen of the DSA, January 14, 2004)
    In a typical MLM, if no commissions were paid on downline sales, the company would fold.
    So, just where are those tax returns from Ronnie Branch? Why isn't he responding to us and proving us wrong?
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    So let me get this straight. She talks to 20-30 people per day, but in 13 years she only had 15 views. She sent out 1,000 voice broadcasting videos, but only got 20-30 calling her back. She claims this is successful? Seriously? That's a dismal 2-3% return rate. The average direct mail response rate is 5-7%. A voice broadcast should be doing 10-15% minimum if it is any good. Says a lot about the content of her voice broadcast videos doesn't it. What a tool.
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    1,357 Ways YOU Can Make a LOT more Money* than in MLM - MLM-TheTruth

    This is for Ronnie. 1357 Ways You Can Make a Lot More Money Than in MLM!!!
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