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    VIII. INVALID and FALSE CLAIMS TO COPYRIGHTS, TRADEMARKS and PATENTS

    Speaking of Copyrights, it should be noted that on Gary M. Beavers Knights Templar web sites including ordotempli.org, he makes reference to these sites and web pages being under the protection of Copyright law.
    Copyright notice at bottom of Ordotempli.org
    "copyright 2000, 2001, by Magistral Priory of Notre Dame (Saint Mary Magdalene) ORDO SUPREMUS MILITARIS TEMPLI HIEROSOLYMITANI, THE SUPREME MILITARY ORDER OF THE TEMPLE OF JERUSALEM,OSMTH, SMOTJ, All rights reserved. No part of this copyrighted website may be reproduced in any manner without prior written permission of the copyright holder, including distribution via electronic means such as eMail or Internet."
    I checked (by using the individual agency web search engines) with the United States Patent and Trademark Office, the U.K. Patent Office, French Intellectual Property Code (article L 111-1 of the French Intellectual Property Code), Belgium Copyrights Office and even copyright law observed by the Berne Treaty of 1978. Guess what, again? No such Copyrights have ever been filed neither are they enforce (based on my research findings) unless Gary M. Beaver has a filing in a different country other than mentioned. His advertisement of Copyright protection is an illusion, hoax or a fraud, apparently! You may wish to have your legal counsel verify this information by contacting the agencies directly.
    Want to find out more? Click on U.K. Patent Office or US Patent Office logo








    IX. ILLEGITIMATE BUSINESSES: THE MOST NOBLE ORDER OF THE SWORD, TEMPLAR TELEVISION and FILM PRODUCTIONS, LTD, and Violation of U.S. District Court Order

    1.) Note: The Most Noble of the Sword web site registration is still showing up on
    Google. Please go there and you will see the listing "pop" up. Of
    special note, will be the registration number, 4046962, registered as a
    Non-profit organization in England and in Wales.
    The Google listing yields:
    "Most Noble Order of the Sword
    The Most Noble Order of the Sword. Registered Non-Profit Organization in
    England & Wales No. 4046962 (click here to read the news of our new Registration).

    Description: A non-profit society devoted to the ideals of knighthood
    chivalry with membership by invitation and...
    Category: Society > Organizations > Lineage > European Historical
    www.order-of-sword.org/ - 15k"
    Most Noble Order of the Sword, The Grand Master
    ... Master stated "under the direction of our past Grand Master, The Baron of Richecourt,
    the Order had the privilege of welcoming many new Noble Members world ...
    www.order-of-sword.org/the_grand_master.htm - 9k
    From Companies House research site:
    Name & Registered Office :
    THE MOST NOBLE ORDER OF THE SWORD
    SOMERSET HOUSE 40-49 PRICE
    STREET, BIRMINGHAM
    WEST MIDLANDS B4 6LZ
    Status :Proposal to Strike off
    Company No. :04046962
    Date of Incorporation : 03/08/2000
    Country of Origin : United Kingdom

    Company Type: PRI/LBG/NSC/S.30 (Private, limited by guarantee, no share capital, section 30 of the Companies Act)
    Nature Of Business (SIC(92)):
    None registered

    Accounting Reference Date : 31/08
    Last Accounts Made Up To :
    Next Accounts Due : 03/06/2002
    Last Return Made Up To :
    Next Return Due : 31/08/2001 OVERDUE
    As of 4 May 2002, the www.order-of-sword.org web site is deactivated. I am checking with the Insolvency Service Prosecution Section in London, using the Registration number, to ascertain is Gary M Beaver is on their list for Disqualified Directors, The Insolvency Service | BIS . The contact information for this institution is:
    Garry Pett
    The Insolvency Service
    Prosecution Section
    Room 111
    21 Bloomsbury Street
    London
    WC1B 3QW
    Tel: 0845 601 3546
    Fax: 020 7637 6654
    "The Disqualified Directors Hotline was set up in January 1998, as a result
    of a ministerial initiative to catch defiant directors and undischarged
    bankrupts who blatantly disregard disqualification orders made against them.
    The Hotline is open 24 hours a day and enables people who have information
    about defiant directors and bankrupts to pass it on. The intention is to
    enforce the disqualification and prevent the public from being exposed to
    more instances of corporate misconduct."
    There appears to be a history where beaver forms "non-profit" businesses in the U.K., charges membership fees to join, then simply goes out of business after collecting such. Some of this history is present via his Lord of Newport business and Order of the Sword. He works out of multiple countries such as the U.K., Belgium and France.
    Reasonable conclusion: If Gary M Beaver was charging membership fees into the Most Noble Order of the Sword organization from August 2001 until 2003, then said fees were never used to pay towards keeping this business solvent in the eyes of the Companies House. Therefore, this is just another of the many examples of fraud perpetrated by beaver. Since August 2001, GMB had no intent of keeping this organization solvent but elected to keep accepting fees for membership into such to profit from illegal gains.
    Templar Television and Film Productions, Ltd.

    2.) WARNING: Gary M. Beaver has stated on his web site, http://www.ordotempli.org/templar_te...roductions.htm that he has formed Templar Television and Film Productions, Ltd. He claims this business in in partnership with "two global television and production companies." Again, I cite reference to Companies House, where no such business has been established nor legally exists in the U.K. as of 7 May 2002 even though he has advertised this union on his web site since March 2002. Please go to the Companies House web site and verify this information for your own piece of mind.

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    Violation of United States District Court Order by Gary Martin Beaver

    Name of U.S. District Court "Final Judgement": United States District Court for the Northern District of Texas Dallas Division
    Date of Issue of U.S. District Court's Final Judgement: November 12, 1996
    Civil Action Number: 3-95CV-0890-G
    Plaintiff: THE SOVEREIGN MILITARY ORDER OF THE TEMPLE OF JERUSALEM, INC.
    Defendant: COUNT DON FERNANDO CAMPELLO PINTO DE SOUSA FONTES
    U.S. District Judges issuing "Final Judgement": A. Joe Fish, United States District Judge & United States Magistrate Judge Jane J. Boyle
    Note: By Gary Martin Beaver acting as the H.S.E. Magistral Prior of the OSMTH - Notre Dame, Saint Mary of Magdalene, the Official International OSMTH Website and doing business in the United States plus having a U.S. based company host his web site, GMB has violated the above standing United States District Court order prohibiting such. GMB's claims can be seen on his web site at:
    Ordotempli.org
    Ordotempli.org
    GMB's USA Commandery: Magistral Commandery of Odo de St. Amand - Texas, USA
    Citations from the Final Judgement:
    "It is further ORDERED, for reasons set forth in that order of November 12, 1996, the defendant Fontes, and all parties acting in concert or participation with him who receives actual notice of this judgment, are permanently enjoined from:
    (1) Adopting or using in any way any Sovereign Military Order of the Temple of Jerusalem, Inc. ("SMOTJ") mark or any confusingly similar mark in connection with Fontes' organization, activities, products, or services:
    (2) committing any acts likely to cause the public to believe that Fontes, or any person acting in concert or participating with him, is affiliated with, originated from, or is authorized, approved, or sponsored by SMOTJ:
    (3) otherwise competing unfairly with SMOTJ in any manner, including but not limited to using false designations or origin, false or misleading descriptions of fact, which misrepresent the nature, characteristics of qualities of Fontes' organization, goods, or fraternal activities; and
    (4) attempting, causing, or assisting any of the above described acts."
    Please Note: This judgment was executed 4 years before GMB even was admitted into the Order! Therefore, GMB is subjecting Count Don Fernando Campello Pinto Peirera de Sousa Fontes, the Order's current Grand Master, to potential legal endangerment via GMB's willful, wanton neglect & violation of a U.S. District Court order that is now legally enforce

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    X. INVALID and FALSE CLAIM to VATICAN PAPAL MARQUISATE
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    X. INVALID and FALSE CLAIM to VATICAN PAPAL MARQUISATE

    If the reader is involved in, The Magistral Priory of Notre Dame (Saint Mary of Magdalene), with Gary M Beaver, you may take note to an email received from an Chevalier John Barden, Major Royal Marine Commandos (ret.)
    "Also, please note that his claims to have been given a Papal Marquisate (Marquess of Aulnois) are false; I have personally checked with the church having spoken to a Papal official in Rome who confirmed that the grant was a lie as Beaver is not a Catholic and has been divorced five times! No way, said the Vatican!! By John Barden, Major Royal Marine commandos (ret.)"
    "I hope this helps, but it also illustrates the fact that dealing with Beaver is not new to us - we have been at it for a couple of years, and have had some success. We will continue!"
    Please use the Search Engine at the Vatican's web site to verify any of GMB's Marquisate claims:
    The Holy See



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    XI. DISASSOCIATION AND REMOVAL by the ARMED FORCES NETWORK
    It came to my attention, 9 April 2002, that Gary M. Beaver had listed and registered himself on the Armed Forces Network web site, http://www.armedforces.net/search/So...ty/more3.shtml. This is a web site dedicated to the men and women of the armed forces, in multiple democratic countries, who have pledge their honor at risk of peril and their lives, to wear a uniform, protect and defend their countries. Based on the information I have collected to date, I felt that it was a travesty and an insult to these great men and women in uniform, past and present, to have any web site by or connected with Gary M. Beaver, Baron of Richecourt associated in any capacity with such honorable people.
    My personal opinion: "It has been shown that Gary M. Beaver, Baron of Richecourt is a man without honor nor truly understands the meaning of the word." I supported my documentation to the Armed Forces Network with contact names and email addresses of nine senior military, commissioned and noncommissioned, officers in both Britain and the USA who share my concern.The Editor of the Armed Forces Network was gracious to research this matter, agreed with my findings, and thus removed Gary M. Beaver's web site information, linked from the Armed Forces Network web site, and their database.
    Below is their reply:
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Admin" <admin@armedforces.net>
    To: Jim McMichael
    Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 7:58 AM
    Subject: Re: One of your web listings
    We appreciate you bringing this to our attention, and the offending site has been deleted from our database. If we can be of further assistance, do not hesitate to email us at admin@armedforces.net.
    Thank you,
    John M. Jones
    Editor
    Armed Forces Network
    ________________________________________



    XII. CONCLUSION AND SUMMARY

    Based on the copious amounts of evidence collected and the lack of exculpatory evidence, Gary M. Beaver continued his Modus Operandi of fraud, deceit, lying, theft, and mis-representation the very day he was Invested into the Knights Templar Order. I have also shown that his behavior runs counter to the Code of Honor and beliefs that fellow Knights and Dames promote and share. Gary M. Beaver has dishonored our values and uses the Knights Templar priories to only promote himself and his ill gotten gains. Due to the way he manufactures slanderous and libelous emails and web sites including false claims of Copyright protection, all under the name of the Knights Templar, he is legally compromising the entire institution.
    James R. McMichael
    Dallas, TX USA
    Post Thought: "He appears to have not so much a strategy as a concept of grandeur. He is never satisfied with what he has. He operates by opportunity more than by plan and takes devastating risks if the gambles might expand his power."
    Sound familiar? Is this about Gary Martin Beaver? No, this is a quote from Time Magazine's "Sinister World of Saddam," http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020513/story3.html, April 28, 2002 but note the interesting similarities.



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    APPENDIX
    If you are at all interested in seeing how many times megalomaniac beaver enjoys seeing his name in print, then please take note of the following web sites, all discovered via a simple Google.com web search:
    Most Noble Order of the Sword, The Grand Master
    ... Our Grand Master stated "under the direction of our past Grand Master, The Baron
    of Richecourt, the Order had the privilege of welcoming many new Noble Members ...
    www.order-of-sword.org/the_grand_master.htm - 9k - Cached - Similar pages
    Royalty
    ... Arabian Royal Family. The Barony of Richecourt - The official website for the barony
    of Richecourt, the Lord Chevalier Gary M. Beaver, Baron of Richecourt. ...
    genealogyorg.com/Royalty/ - 28k
    Fansites.com ODP Implementation
    ... Richecourt Add to favorites The official website for the barony of Richecourt, the
    Lord Chevalier Gary M. Beaver, Baron of Richecourt. url: www.richecourt.com. ...
    dir.fansites.com/ index.cgi?base=%2FSociety%2FGenealogy%2FRoyalty%2F - 53k - Cached - Similar pages
    e-bannerx.com Exchange and Directory: Society/Genealogy/Royalty
    ... website for the barony of Richecourt, the Lord Chevalier Gary M. Beaver, Baron
    of Richecourt. (Hits: 0 Rating: 0.00 Votes: 0) Rate It, , Report bad link! ...
    www.e-bannerx.com/pages/Society/ Genealogy/Royalty/more3.html - 12k - Cached - Similar pages
    Education World: Web Directory: Society: Genealogy: Royalty:
    ... website for the barony of Richecourt, the Lord Chevalier Gary M. Beaver, Baron of
    Richecourt. The British Monarchy - Family trees of Royal Houses (in PDF format ...
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    ... The Barony of Richecourt The official website for the barony of Richecourt, the
    Lord Chevalier Gary M. Beaver, Baron of Richecourt. http://www.richecourt.com. ...
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    The Barony of Richecourt The official website for the barony of Richecourt,
    the Lord Chevalier Gary M. Beaver, Baron of Richecourt.
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    ... website for the barony of Richecourt, the Lord Chevalier Gary M. Beaver, Baron of
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    ... A Living Document on Templar Quotes, Statements and Writings. Researched
    & Recorded by The Baron Beaver of Richecourt KGOTJ. ...
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    Unfortunately virtually all of the links in my previous post no longer work.After all Beaver/st Clair doesn't like to hang around long enough to get caught with his pants down around his ankles!
    In his hey-days of acting out the part of being Gary Martin Beaver also known as His Emminence,he married no less than five times.His fast talking persuasive bull-**** worked amazingly well on womenfolk.However they soon saw through his charades but for many the realisation came a little late,often as the money ran out.(Theres that is!)
    Ive got copies of all the marriage certificates and a couple of interesting birth certificates as well,but Realscam is not the place to publish such documents,but I could be persuaded to give them an airing via a PM.
    I will content myself in the meantime by publishing a few more photos of Beaver/st Clair in his various guises. If anyone knows of his current whereabouts please do advize,as the poor chap has dissolved into thin air,which is most unusual!
    Pics to follow shortly.Toodle-pip!
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    Re: Ray st Clair.The real story.

    Heres an interesting clip or two of Lardy Boy Ray in action.It begins with our man in full technicolour dancing about on a table in an English court of law! Mmmm---very interesting.

    Raymond St Clair
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    Heres another rather interesting slant on Major Ray st Clairs--- errr---preferences,shall we say. Seems Ray must have upset more than just a few people it would seem!

    Raymond St Clair Pedophile on Vimeo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Lee Tobed View Post
    Unfortunately virtually all of the links in my previous post no longer work.After all Beaver/st Clair doesn't like to hang around long enough to get caught with his pants down around his ankles!
    In his hey-days of acting out the part of being Gary Martin Beaver also known as His Emminence,he married no less than five times.His fast talking persuasive bull-**** worked amazingly well on womenfolk.However they soon saw through his charades but for many the realisation came a little late,often as the money ran out.(Theres that is!)
    Ive got copies of all the marriage certificates and a couple of interesting birth certificates as well,but Realscam is not the place to publish such documents,but I could be persuaded to give them an airing via a PM.
    I will content myself in the meantime by publishing a few more photos of Beaver/st Clair in his various guises. If anyone knows of his current whereabouts please do advize,as the poor chap has dissolved into thin air,which is most unusual!
    Pics to follow shortly.Toodle-pip!
    saying that, if you would like more info, i suggest you get in contact with me ASAP i have something very intresting that maybe of use.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Versuvious View Post
    saying that, if you would like more info, i suggest you get in contact with me ASAP i have something very intresting that maybe of use.....
    Interesting proposal Versuvious. Perhaps the best way ahead would be for you to provide some of your "interesting info" on these pages first,and then we can go from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Lee Tobed View Post
    Interesting proposal Versuvious. Perhaps the best way ahead would be for you to provide some of your "interesting info" on these pages first,and then we can go from there.
    well, it would first help if you read the messages i sent you in your inbox....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Versuvious View Post
    well, it would first help if you read the messages i sent you in your inbox....
    Yes Im sure it would-----thats why I did read them first.
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    well, im going off to find him, iv got some good leads so.... and il also be requesting where and how you obtained my fathers details as not even i seem to have access to them... which is very strange indeed... but meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Versuvious View Post
    well, im going off to find him, iv got some good leads so.... and il also be requesting where and how you obtained my fathers details as not even i seem to have access to them... which is very strange indeed... but meh.
    How bizarre! Versuvious claims to be William Beaver,son of Gary Martin Beaver alias Major Raymond st Clair,and states that he is looking for (in his words) "my conman father",demands a face to face meeting with me as he has "important information" to divulge.But finds himself unable to post anything remotely relevant to this thread.
    Strangely "Williams" spelling mistakes (there were lots in his PMs)are uncannilly like those of a certain dubious character named Ray st Clair-----here you dont suppose!?---meh.

    PS.The word father is not spelt "farther".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Versuvious View Post
    well, im going off to find him, iv got some good leads so.... and il also be requesting where and how you obtained my fathers details as not even i seem to have access to them... which is very strange indeed... but meh.
    It looks like "William" needs a little guiding hand in order to assist him in his search for his alleged "missing Father" Gary Martin Beaver aka Major Raymond st Clair. Well William old chap its not difficult to set you on the right trail really.Just type in Archbishop Gary Beaver on either Yahoo or Google and youre on your way!
    Not quite rocket-science,and theres plenty of leads to follow.They all point to Gary/Rays numerous scams which at that timewere mostly fake churches and charities.One of them registered at Companies House was called SUFFER LITTLE CHILDREN. Company number 05185485.It was struck off for failing to submit accounts on 21.07.2004. Co Directors being Gary and his wife of the time Selina Beaver.GMB has been married no fewer than five times,and to my knowledge has NO CHILDREN which in my book means "William" is a bit of an imposter!
    However Im ever willing to be proved wrong,so how about bringing on some proof of who you say you are Versuvious???
    In the meantime I will hum "cat got your tongue" in the background.
    More news to follow shortly----(as ever).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Lee Tobed View Post
    It looks like "William" needs a little guiding hand in order to assist him in his search for his alleged "missing Father" Gary Martin Beaver aka Major Raymond st Clair. Well William old chap its not difficult to set you on the right trail really.Just type in Archbishop Gary Beaver on either Yahoo or Google and youre on your way!
    Not quite rocket-science,and theres plenty of leads to follow.They all point to Gary/Rays numerous scams which at that timewere mostly fake churches and charities.One of them registered at Companies House was called SUFFER LITTLE CHILDREN. Company number 05185485.It was struck off for failing to submit accounts on 21.07.2004. Co Directors being Gary and his wife of the time Selina Beaver.GMB has been married no fewer than five times,and to my knowledge has NO CHILDREN which in my book means "William" is a bit of an imposter!
    However Im ever willing to be proved wrong,so how about bringing on some proof of who you say you are Versuvious???
    In the meantime I will hum "cat got your tongue" in the background.
    More news to follow shortly----(as ever).
    then your not as smart as you think you are then..... as yes, i am William Gary Beaver, and also he has 2 other children, one of which is named Luke (unknown last name) and also Nathan Christopher beaver, we are children unto gary / ray and Karen Elizibeth Vinnecombe/smart/beaver/stephens, so, sir before you start to call me an imposter i think you have to do your homework a little better....... or do you think you know my family better than myself....

    oh yes... the joys of google and its 1,000,000 dead ends and constant trail of liquidated businesses. such leads are useless as most are dated back as far as 2008.....

    and also, typos are permitted its not like im in school, or have to be top of the class or some useless bother..... but i would like it if your a little less hostile as i sense your a man that doesn't like to be stood corrected.

    ah yes..... and how would you like this proof handed to you? via email? or if better yet you have my phone number you could even check to what name that's registered too,
    otherwise i have my birth certificate ( which i will not be posting via an online forum ) and a multitude of paper work in my name. i am who i say i am, i wouldn't be here if i wasn't.

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    Fabulous grammar and speaks about himself in the third person. I am convinced!!! LOL!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Lee Tobed View Post
    It looks like "William" needs a little guiding hand in order to assist him in his search for his alleged "missing Father" Gary Martin Beaver aka Major Raymond st Clair. Well William old chap its not difficult to set you on the right trail really.Just type in Archbishop Gary Beaver on either Yahoo or Google and youre on your way!
    Not quite rocket-science,and theres plenty of leads to follow.They all point to Gary/Rays numerous scams which at that timewere mostly fake churches and charities.One of them registered at Companies House was called SUFFER LITTLE CHILDREN. Company number 05185485.It was struck off for failing to submit accounts on 21.07.2004. Co Directors being Gary and his wife of the time Selina Beaver.GMB has been married no fewer than five times,and to my knowledge has NO CHILDREN which in my book means "William" is a bit of an imposter!
    However Im ever willing to be proved wrong,so how about bringing on some proof of who you say you are Versuvious???
    In the meantime I will hum "cat got your tongue" in the background.
    More news to follow shortly----(as ever).
    LOL, This is a very entertaining thread. Thanks for sharing Earl Lee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Versuvious View Post
    then your not as smart as you think you are then..... as yes, i am William Gary Beaver, and also he has 2 other children, one of which is named Luke (unknown last name) and also Nathan Christopher beaver, we are children unto gary / ray and Karen Elizibeth Vinnecombe/smart/beaver/stephens, so, sir before you start to call me an imposter i think you have to do your homework a little better....... or do you think you know my family better than myself....

    oh yes... the joys of google and its 1,000,000 dead ends and constant trail of liquidated businesses. such leads are useless as most are dated back as far as 2008.....

    and also, typos are permitted its not like im in school, or have to be top of the class or some useless bother..... but i would like it if your a little less hostile as i sense your a man that doesn't like to be stood corrected.

    ah yes..... and how would you like this proof handed to you? via email? or if better yet you have my phone number you could even check to what name that's registered too,
    otherwise i have my birth certificate ( which i will not be posting via an online forum ) and a multitude of paper work in my name. i am who i say i am, i wouldn't be here if i wasn't.
    OOPS! Seems like I touched a raw nerve William by calling you an "imposter". You see though old boy,youre not the first to approach me with a "cock and bull" story and shouldn't think you will be the last. So do forgive my sceptiscism. Anyway the ball is entirely in your court.Mmmm perhaps your "brothers" Luke and Nathan might like to offer some family back up as I assume they are looking for Papa too?
    Soapboxmum has raised a rather valid point too don't you think William? (probably not Meh!!}

    NB. I will also try to be less "hostile" William---terribly sorry and all that.
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    LOL, This is a very entertaining thread. Thanks for sharing Earl Lee.
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    Its interesting that "wannabee William" alleged son of Beaver/st Clair has added sweet zero to this thread when I have supplied such a rich seam of info on his "Papa"! Of particular note is the fact that no challenge has been forthcoming that Gary Martin Beaver has also masqueraded as Major (Lord) Raymond st Clair among all the other charades played out over the years. All very strange.Wonder whats going to pop out of the woodwork next? This thread now takes top-spot on Google on page 1 if you simply type in "Ray st Clair"-----ahhh fame at last,and of course,"just desserts" for our conman Ray. Well done Realscam.com!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Lee Tobed View Post
    Its interesting that "wannabee William" alleged son of Beaver/st Clair has added sweet zero to this thread when I have supplied such a rich seam of info on his "Papa"! Of particular note is the fact that no challenge has been forthcoming that Gary Martin Beaver has also masqueraded as Major (Lord) Raymond st Clair among all the other charades played out over the years. All very strange.Wonder whats going to pop out of the woodwork next? This thread now takes top-spot on Google on page 1 if you simply type in "Ray st Clair"-----ahhh fame at last,and of course,"just desserts" for our conman Ray. Well done Realscam.com!
    not a nerve its just that its funny how yes, i would come on here, and post but once more, you can find me on the electoral roll - and many other things like in the national archives, and im sure if you were to look back to the place of which my father was from, stains ( walton on themes ) excuse if i am wrong in the place name, but i was born on 01/06/1990 in Ashford and its funny, that my dad "gary martin beaver" has himself registerd on that birth certificate; and thus more as a Buissness manager! which i thought was funny, due to the fact of when i was around 4-5 years old and lived in slough - he registerd himself as part of some " special regimented police investigator" also, id like to add that when i was 10 years of age my father booked into the "grande de veir" hotle in southampton and quoted his tittle of "doctor" and also "lord of newport" i, in actual fact STILL have this card which stated he was "lord of newport" which we ALL know was a tittle stolen and first led me to this site via a website named "faketittles.com" if i am correct.

    and also, he was living just near "stains" one time when he was with that "salena" his at the time, arabic girlfriend.

    but still you have my phone number and everything, and you know my name, and can easily find my birth certificate in the national database or even phone up the registry office in Ashford to confirm my existence.

    but yeah, the ball is in your court - i have supplied contact info and it does hurt that you think i'm an imposter.... once more i stress you have the information to background check on me and if you REALLY would like i can give you my national insurance number if you REALLY want it to check me via the council.

    ah yes, theres another bit of information, my fathers brother, my uncle Mel owned a care dealership also in the where abouts of stains...... i remember he took me there once to pick up a sports car.... also i remember once he took me to this little "computer business" he owned somewhere in the radius of the same area....
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    not a nerve its just that its funny how yes, i would come on here, and post but once more, you can find me on the electoral roll - and many other things like in the national archives, and im sure if you were to look back to the place of which my father was from, stains ( walton on themes ) excuse if i am wrong in the place name, but i was born on 01/06/1990 in Ashford and its funny, that my dad "gary martin beaver" has himself registerd on that birth certificate; and thus more as a Buissness manager! which i thought was funny, due to the fact of when i was around 4-5 years old and lived in slough - he registerd himself as part of some " special regimented police investigator" also, id like to add that when i was 10 years of age my father booked into the "grande de veir" hotle in southampton and quoted his tittle of "doctor" and also "lord of newport" i, in actual fact STILL have this card which stated he was "lord of newport" which we ALL know was a tittle stolen and first led me to this site via a website named "faketittles.com" if i am correct.

    and also, he was living just near "stains" one time when he was with that "salena" his at the time, arabic girlfriend.

    but still you have my phone number and everything, and you know my name, and can easily find my birth certificate in the national database or even phone up the registry office in Ashford to confirm my existence.

    but yeah, the ball is in your court - i have supplied contact info and it does hurt that you think i'm an imposter.... once more i stress you have the information to background check on me and if you REALLY would like i can give you my national insurance number if you REALLY want it to check me via the council.

    ah yes, theres another bit of information, my fathers brother, my uncle Mel owned a care dealership also in the where abouts of stains...... i remember he took me there once to pick up a sports car.... also i remember once he took me to this little "computer business" he owned somewhere in the radius of the same area....



    OK for the tme being we will assume, that you are whom you say you are.However I will carry out due diligence which takes time.In the meantime perhaps you could impart some helpful information on any aspects that may be relevant and assist in locating Gary/Ray st BeaverClair current whereabouts,as hes been off the radar for around a year now.
    For he time being can you clarify whom exactly your mother is,as you state she is Karen Vinniecombe/Smart/Beaver/Stephens,and clearly it cant be all four. Also Id like the names of your grandparents and your grandmothers maiden name. Your Uncle Mels details would be useful too.
    If you prefer you can PM me.However I have to warn you that this thread is all about publicising this evil little mans scams/shams and therefore anything that furthers that aim I will post on this forum.That said I will respect your privacy as far as possible.
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    Its interesting that Versuvious logged in just after my last post but failed to respond to my three simple questions.
    1. What is your Mothers name.
    2.What are your Grandparents names.
    3.What is your Grandmothers maiden name.
    I would have thought anyone genuinely part of the Beaver/st Clair family would have no hesitation in supplying the answers-----doesn't put "William" in a very good light does it?
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    Very entertaining saga "Earl Lee."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Lee Tobed View Post
    Its interesting that Versuvious logged in just after my last post but failed to respond to my three simple questions.
    1. What is your Mothers name.
    2.What are your Grandparents names.
    3.What is your Grandmothers maiden name.
    I would have thought anyone genuinely part of the Beaver/st Clair family would have no hesitation in supplying the answers-----doesn't put "William" in a very good light does it?
    i'v already stated my mothers name, which is Karen Elizibeth vinnecombe/smart/beaver/stephens, the only grandparents i know of are from my mothers side, and to be honest with you here i have given up with your childish " 20 questions" game your playing if you dont believe me then fine because right now i really cant be bothered to be dealing with what seems to be a community of people where they ridicule one person looking to find the asshole that made him.

    oh yes, and the reason i didnt respond is because unlike some, i have to work to live and pay bills blah blah, and also, i was trying to talk to my mum on all this but as you see i dont have a great relationship with her either so DO excuse the lateness of my response (not)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Versuvious View Post
    i'v already stated my mothers name, which is Karen Elizibeth vinnecombe/smart/beaver/stephens, the only grandparents i know of are from my mothers side, and to be honest with you here i have given up with your childish " 20 questions" game your playing if you dont believe me then fine because right now i really cant be bothered to be dealing with what seems to be a community of people where they ridicule one person looking to find the asshole that made him.

    oh yes, and the reason i didnt respond is because unlike some, i have to work to live and pay bills blah blah, and also, i was trying to talk to my mum on all this but as you see i dont have a great relationship with her either so DO excuse the lateness of my response (not)
    Hummm???? I really wonder how Sigmund Freud would have tied this into potty training?????

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    Hummm???? I really wonder how Sigmund Freud would have tied this into potty training?????
    I think Sigmund would have been confused and amused at the same time-----! Meh.
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