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    Shaun Smith Convicted UK SCAMMER

    Shaun Smith much like fellow UK Scammer http://www.realscam.com/f16/simon-stepsys-3342/ earns his living getting people to sign up for the crap he is pitching. What he does not do is suss out great opportunities that will provide lasting residual income. For this thread my goal is explore some of his previous endeavors so we get to see how things turned out for people downwind from Shaun.

    Whether we use the term, Ponzi, Pyramid, or Endless Recruiting, below is some reading from the FTC on the subject. Setting aside the illegality of these ventures, most people end up losing money as the world runs out to people to recruit. People like Shaun Smith and Simon Stepsys get in early because they have large sucker lists to market to. Then they have friends that get the call, and those friends have friends, then an "opportunity" is ready to launch to the public. Most if not all of the higher ups in these scams know very well they are promoting a Pyramid that will collapse. If they don't know, they are too stupid to be giving money advice. Take your pick, either way it is fresh money from suckers thinking they have finally found a mentor with a real business that keeps these schemes going, for a while...

    https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/blog/te...pyramid-scheme

    Your income is based mainly on the number of people you recruit, and the money those new recruits pay to join the company — not on the sales of products to consumers

    https://www.ftc.gov/public-statement...yramid-schemes

    What is a Pyramid Scheme and What is Legitimate Marketing?

    Pyramid schemes now come in so many forms that they may be difficult to recognize immediately. However, they all share one overriding characteristic. They promise consumers or investors large profits based primarily on recruiting others to join their program, not based on profits from any real investment or real sale of goods to the public. Some schemes may purport to sell a product, but they often simply use the product to hide their pyramid structure. There are two tell-tale signs that a product is simply being used to disguise a pyramid scheme: inventory loading and a lack of retail sales. Inventory loading occurs when a company's incentive program forces recruits to buy more products than they could ever sell, often at inflated prices. If this occurs throughout the company's distribution system, the people at the top of the pyramid reap substantial profits, even though little or no product moves to market. The people at the bottom make excessive payments for inventory that simply accumulates in their basements. A lack of retail sales is also a red flag that a pyramid exists. Many pyramid schemes will claim that their product is selling like hot cakes. However, on closer examination, the sales occur only between people inside the pyramid structure or to new recruits joining the structure, not to consumers out in the general public

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    In this Video Shaun is nice enough to earn a commission sponsoring you, the rest well let's let Shaun's history speak for itself.

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    Re: Shaun Smith Convicted UK SCAMMER

    res ipsa loquitur



    Two men who conspired to defraud thousands of unsuspecting home-workers out of more than £1m have each been jailed for five years.

    Shaun Smith and Craig Bradley were found guilty at Stafford Crown Court last month of various charges of plotting to defraud home-workers from across the UK.

    Passing sentence at the court on Wednesday, the judge described the men as "callous swindlers".

    A third man, Ralph Blore, was given a two-year jail term after the judge heard he had conned the public out of about £150,000 over a two-year period.

    'Fraudulent businesses'

    The court heard the men ran companies which took money from people who wanted to work from home.

    They operated from offices in the Staffordshire village of Wheaton Aston.

    Court recorder Alan Pardoe QC said the offences were particularly serious because a large number of those hoodwinked were in dire financial straights.

    The judge told Smith and Bradley that the companies they set up were carefully designed to defraud members of the public and to persuade them they were being offered opportunities to do interesting work for which they would be paid handsomely.

    He added: "These businesses were fraudulent from the beginning."
    BBC News | ENGLAND | Home-working 'swindlers' jailed


    The duo were each jailed for five years at Stafford Crown Court on Wednesday for conspiracy to defraud tens of thousands of hard-up victims.

    The judge, Recorder Alan Pardoe QC, branded them 'callous swindlers.'

    CRUEL CONMEN WHO PLOTTED FRAUD IN JAIL; ]Shocking truth revealed as home-working swindlers jailed. - Free Online Library

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    £700 in a day: Shaun Smith Conman

    http://www.bizoppsblog.com/422/a-cou...nd-yournetbiz/

    http://www.bizoppsblog.com/465/simon...-scam-problem/

    Here is http://www.realscam.com/f16/simon-stepsys-3342/ defending Shaun, do want the lad not to get a fair shake. The Truth Behind The Shaun Smith Scam Issue
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    Re: Shaun Smith Convicted UK SCAMMER

    A lot of people think if such and such was a scam, the authorities would shut it down. Don't be fooled that jail time or a slap on the wrist from the ASA will stop the likes of a Shaun Smith.





    ASA Adjudication on Shaun Smith
    Shaun Smith
    S M Publications
    Arion Business Centre
    Harriet House
    118 High Street
    Birmingham
    B23 6BG
    Date:
    28 September 2011
    Media:
    Internet (OM 3rd party)
    Sector:
    Financial
    Number of complaints: 1
    Complaint Ref:
    A11-165530
    Ad

    A website for an online homeworking system, stated “Shaun Smith Online Is Exposing An Amazing ... But True System, Showing You How To Make £10,000-£30,000+ A Month ... Let Me Show You How To Make Over £30K A Month FREE... I Will Show Step By Step How To Make £1000+ A Week ... Get Unlimited Amounts Of FREE Products And Services And Make Money”.
    Issue

    The complainant, who saw the ad on 12 July and did not believe the likely levels of earnings could be substantiated, challenged whether they were misleading.
    CAP Code (Edition 12)
    20.43.13.113.33.73.9

    Response

    Shaun Smith said he supplied a free e-book about how he made £10,000 to £30,000 a month from many different income streams. He said this was not a homeworking scheme but a business opportunity. He attached a number of screenshots which he said indicated that, between 1 July and 31 July 2008, 1 January and 31 January 2010, 1 April and 30 April 2010, 1 January and 31 January 2011 and 1 August and 23 August 2011, transactions for the net value of between £10,279.28 and £32,070.49 were successfully deposited into a personal account with an accounting information system. He also submitted screenshots of a general report document which he said showed that between 1 August and 23 August 2011 a profit of £2,231.18 had been achieved, an account home page that showed that weekly sales on 24 August 2011 was $137.52, a page that stated “Total Estimated Earnings = $294.24”, a “Transfer Commissions” document that showed that, on 5 August 2011 $638 was earned and on 12 August $162 was earned, and an online e-commerce account which showed that, during August, various monies were transferred into a bank account. He said they showed the money he had earned from various income streams and therefore substantiated the quoted earnings.
    Assessment

    Upheld

    The ASA considered the ad implied that earnings of £10,000 to £30,000 a month were representative of the amounts that consumers could achieve each month. We noted that, although the “Transfer Commission” and “Estimated Earnings” screenshots quoted earnings, they did not provide evidence that transactions had been carried out or that similar earnings had been achieved by others enrolled in the scheme. We noted the screenshots of the accounting information system provided details about five monthly transactions that had been completed since 2008. However, we noted only two of these related to the last 12 months and showed that transactions relating to less than £12,000 and £8,000 had been successful. We noted some of the screenshots showed that monies had been deposited or withdrawn during August 2011 but did not consider that these provided adequate evidence to demonstrate that, on 12 July 2011, consumers could achieve £10,000 to £30,000 each month. Furthermore, we noted we had not received any evidence of how the money was obtained, or that the money had resulted from participation in the business opportunity offered by Shaun Smith. We considered that Shaun Smith had not shown that the earnings claims were representative of the likely returns a consumer could expect. We concluded that the ad was misleading.

    The ad breached CAP Code (Edition 12) rules 3.1 and 3.3 (Misleading advertising), 3.7 (Substantiation), 3.9 (Qualification), 3.11 (Exaggeration) and 20.4 (Homework schemes).
    Action

    The ad must not appear again in its current form. We told Shaun Smith not to make earnings claims in the future unless he held robust substantiation to support them.



    https://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjud...x#.VYNus0ZqCUl
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    Re: Shaun Smith Convicted UK SCAMMER

    If something involves "endless recruiting" for new participants and their money it's at a minimum a bad business model if not an outright scam. One could argue that an MLM like Amway endlessly recruits and has been around for fifty years. Still, 95%+++ of Amway distributors lose money after time and expenses every year. That is a tough path to walk unless you are a super recruiter Shocking MLM statistics.

    Looking for something where 5% of participants make money at the expense of the 95% that is also illegal? Things like http://www.realscam.com/f10/zeek-rew...ee-member-642/ may be for you.

    Shaun Smith thought it was the cats ass, even did this lovely write-up.








    Endless recruiting = Bullshit Opportunity. Maybe the authorities shut it down, maybe the funds just dry up. Who cares why if your money disappears? Zeek was a mess, people went to prison, many lost money. Shaun walked away with his commissions like nothing ever happened.


    Shaun Smith – a resident of Bridgnorth who stole $262,900 under one or more usernames, including “topincometeam”

    Zeek Receiver files clawbacks against nine UK investors

    ZeekRewards founder arraigned in $850 million scam - Washington Times

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    All that brings us to today's great deal from Shaun Smith.



    These "internet marketers" either disable or delete negative comments from their channels. Wonder why that would be?



    Oz who reviews a ton of these deals says Infinite Leverage reminds him of Burn Lounge. Should end well for the punters.

    Infinite Leverage System Review: $4297 traffic generation

    BurnLounge appeal denied, still a pyramid scheme.

    https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/pres...-scamthousands
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    Re: Shaun Smith Convicted UK SCAMMER

    Another video of Shaun Smith, this time using every scammers' "reverse psychology" trick in the book.

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    The weirdest thing, Shaun was the number four recruiter in http://www.realscam.com/f9/my-advert...html#post87610 but seems to have completely scrubbed it from his channel.

    Rope 2000 people in, take a commission on their investment and blamo gone like a rocket? Hardly seems right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Another video of Shaun Smith, this time using every scammers' "reverse psychology" trick in the book.

    So strange after referring 2000 followers, at 3:20 of this lovely video he implies the MAPS concept is a Pryamid Scheme and says it is illegal.

    Yeah, some people don't work very hard no argument there, but even if everyone worked the system the majority would still fail due to the math.

    Why do Pyramid Schemes Fail? Illegal Pyramid Schemes, MLM Scams, Gifting Circle Clubs

    "Pyramid schemes are inherently injurious to consumers because as a mathematical certainty, they are doomed to collapse. As in the case of chain letters that require a payment, only the people at the very top make any money.

    The only way anybody can make money through a pyramid scheme or chain letter is if participants in levels below them are defrauded into giving money based upon a rapidly diminishing promise of eventually getting something in return.

    Eventually they must break down because the pool of possible recruits becomes exhausted and recruitment stops. Those at the bottom of the pyramid, the vast majority of the participants, lose money because there is no one below them."
    "It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff
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    A lot if not all of these fuckos like to toss around "passive income" or "residual income" and pan actually working and earning for an income. These gurus would be a little more credible if they had started a business ten years ago and have been sitting on the beach ever since. Can't do that, they have jobs, roping suckers for fresh dough. If they don't have a passive income, what on earth gives them the idea they are skilled enough to show anyone else?


    Shaun Smith and Simon Stepsys Scammer Tag Team.jpg

    Shaun Smith and Simon Stepsys Scammer Tag TeamII.JPG

    tag team scamming shaun smith and simon stepsys.JPG

    http://www.realscam.com/f8/serial-su...es-again-2829/

    TARA TALKS: SIMON STEPSYS - BEWARE!

    Are Shaun and Simon retied on a beach somewhere from "That Free Thing"?
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    Empower versus Neucopia like asking would you rather be kicked in the Nads or have your nipples waxed with a cheese grater? It don't matter Shaun will be happy to earn a commission on whatever scam you choose.

    Empower Network.JPG

    http://www.realscam.com/f8/empower-network-1659/

    Empower vs Neucopia **** versus puke.JPG
    Neucopia scam with shaun smith.JPG


    As usual, we have people that evaluate things a little differently than Shaun.



    Neucopia Scam? Yes It Is In My Opinion! - Ethan Vanderbuilt
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    Re: Shaun Smith Convicted UK SCAMMER

    Bids that give, the F with the BBB apparently stands for F everyone that took Shaun Smiths crappy advice on this one.

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    Another winner picked by scammer Shaun Smith. Check out the video on the founder of this "opportunity", does Shaun do any due diligence before taking people's money?

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    Is My Shopping Genie A Scam?


    An expert in commercial law said it had all the hallmarks of a pyramid scheme and this was confirmed by a representative of the National Consumer Agency.
    Watchdog rejects 'pyramid' scheme report complaint - Independent.ie



    https://www.ftc.gov/enforcement/case...-inc-et-al-ftc
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    Another wise selection by Shaun Smith, well wise for him I suppose.

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    In conclusion, Automated Income Course is a total scam designed to part newcomers from their hard earned cash.

    Home Income a Scam? | Reviews
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    Last edited by ribshaw; 06-18-2015 at 10:55 PM.
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    "It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff
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    Re: Shaun Smith Convicted UK SCAMMER

    Five Tricks of a Con Artist

    They give you something for nothing


    http://www.18kaweek.com/Shaunsystem.pdf


    He makes you like him





    They make you think it's now or never


    Urgent Update on giving Shaun Smith your money.JPG

    He says he's going to make you rich

    Shaun Smith will make Shaun Smith rich.JPG

    They make you believe it worked for other people

    Shaun Smith about me scamming you.jpg

    https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov...f-a-con-artist
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    You goofed if you thought Shaun Smith could pick legitimate businesses.

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    Shaun at 1:18 is in a privileged position to share this great opportunity with you, before the masses get in.

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    Up in the air, the quality seems mixed on the offerings. As long as Shaun got a commission I'm good.

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    People got so tired of making massive cash with this one the server got overloaded and burned itself to the ground.


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    Refer others and you will profit.

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    Shaun doesn't want you to join "money games" and instead should sell this genuine jewelery.

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