Quote Originally Posted by Len Clements View Post
Wes, I will give practically anything, anything, to get you on a recorded conference call, before a live audience. I'd love to see how cocky you are when all the little hiding places and safety nets afforded you on a message board are removed. I know you've already declined this offer once before - in spite of my having only a two year Associates Degree and you having an advanced degree in law. As a litigator you are basically a professional debater, yet you still ran from the opportunity to confront me in a live debate. So what will it take? Under what conditions will you face me?

Len Clements
Lenny, tell the truth for once and let people know exactly why Wes declined your offer to debate in your living room.

It had nothing to do with you having "only a two year Associates Degree" and he having an advanced degree in law.

Here's exactly why Wes didn't want to get involved in your nonsense:

Quote Originally Posted by wserra
Horsepucky. I refused to engage in a debate hosted in your living room, where you control the inputs, the recording and just about everything else. I similarly would not agree to an open-ended debate with you in any live forum concerning the MLM industry. You make your living as an MLM distributor and writer. I am a lawyer whose practice has nothing to do with any commercial matters, let alone specifically with MLMs. I have no doubt that you could pull all sorts of supposed statistics out of your hat, which I would need time to investigate before commenting. I'm perfectly comfortable discussing the law of pyramid schemes, or specific ones such as USANA - but, as to the specific ones, only after I have the time to investigate. That actually is why a forum such as this one is less histrionic and more analytical than anything live - because both sides have the time to investigate the respective claims.
Maybe you should inquire of him if he'd like to debate the law of pyramid schemes, or specific ones such as USANA, instead?

I'm sure with your two year Associates Degree from Heald College and 155 Mensa tested IQ you'd be more than up to the challenge.