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Jarrettcomm HYIP Ponzi Player
Yes, everyone knows this is a ponzi, anything paying 2% daily is not real. People who join without doing a simple google search, or putting any effort into analyzing where there money is going. Will just as easily throw there money away somewhere else.........
Or the program maintains steady growth and they make a good profit =P Then they are off to find the next ponzi!
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Originally Posted by
jarrettcomm
Yes, everyone knows this is a ponzi, anything paying 2% daily is not real. People who join without doing a simple google search, or putting any effort into analyzing where there money is going. Will just as easily throw there money away somewhere else.........
Or the program maintains steady growth and they make a good profit =P Then they are off to find the next ponzi!
Not everyone knows that this is a Ponzi, what about a senior citizen with Dementia who is convinced by her 20 something grandson who is simply naive? This may come as a shocker to you, but the people who run these scams could care less about the ham and eggers that throw in $50 and tweet about their .$75 interest payments all day on MMG. They use those people to gain momentum and pull in the real suckers, some of which think they are getting in on a real business.
I could care less about the people who play the games knowingly, but the true victims that result now that's another matter.
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Originally Posted by
jarrettcomm
Yes, everyone knows this is a ponzi, anything paying 2% daily is not real. People who join without doing a simple google search, or putting any effort into analyzing where there money is going. Will just as easily throw there money away somewhere else.........
Or the program maintains steady growth and they make a good profit =P Then they are off to find the next ponzi!
No, everyone doesn't know this is a Ponzi. For if they did, this would have collapsed already. These Ponzi's have to keep sucking in new people to last any length of time. All the players, shills and pimps know this, and that is why you see all the: most honest admin, admin really cares about the members, admin has integrity, and then the all the "I got paid, I got paid fast, Paying, No problems with payments, one of the best programs on the net," yada, yada, yada BS.
But I just love it when Ponzi shills come here and try to give their Ponzi de Jour an air of legitimacy. The next thing you will try to tell us is that Terry is a saint.
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Originally Posted by
ribshaw
Not everyone knows that this is a Ponzi, what about a senior citizen with Dementia who is convinced by her 20 something grandson who is simply naive? This may come as a shocker to you, but the people who run these scams could care less about the ham and eggers that throw in $50 and tweet about their .$75 interest payments all day on MMG. They use those people to gain momentum and pull in the real suckers, some of which think they are getting in on a real business.
I could care less about the people who play the games knowingly, but the true victims that result now that's another matter.
MMG....what a collection of 3d world imbeciles and nickel and dime scammers. Its pathetic.
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
No, everyone doesn't know this is a Ponzi. For if they did, this would have collapsed already. These Ponzi's have to keep sucking in new people to last any length of time. All the players, shills and pimps know this, and that is why you see all the: most honest admin, admin really cares about the members, admin has integrity, and then the all the "I got paid, I got paid fast, Paying, No problems with payments, one of the best programs on the net," yada, yada, yada BS.
But I just love it when Ponzi shills come here and try to give their Ponzi de Jour an air of legitimacy. The next thing you will try to tell us is that Terry is a saint.
Someone not doing any research on an investment is like someone going to play blackjack without having played before. Like I said they will throw their money away somewhere else inevitably. To those who claim the elderly with dementia? give me a break....... They are one phone call away from wiring away their life savings.
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Originally Posted by
jarrettcomm
Someone not doing any research on an investment is like someone going to play blackjack without having played before. Like I said they will throw their money away somewhere else inevitably. To those who claim the elderly with dementia? give me a break....... They are one phone call away from wiring away their life savings.
Give me a break until it is someone you care about that is stolen from, then you won't be shrugging your shoulders like Gomer Pyle.
Why have any laws? Let's just let the elderly, mentally ill, mentally retarded, whoever be preyed upon, they will be stolen from eventually. Let's take down all the stop signs, traffic lights, air bags, guard rails, people gonna die. Let's do away with pharmacies and just let people get what they think they need, doctors get it wrong quite a bit anyhow. Beginning to sound a lot like Somalia circa 2013. It always cracks me up in a cynical was to read such tripe.
We get it, if a cashier gives you too much change you think it is fine to put in your pocket and walk out the door. Forget if she loses her job, or the business can not afford the loss. Finders keepers. Other than being a very sad way to earn you will find it is not very profitable for most, and just about as satisfying. But understand you are stealing from old ladies and others that are just not as worldly as you.
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
The problem is that the people you describe losing are 1% of the member base. The majority of losers are those who believe they can still make profit before it collapses, but end up being wrong. BOO f******* HOO
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Originally Posted by
jarrettcomm
Someone not doing any research on an investment is like someone going to play blackjack without having played before. Like I said they will throw their money away somewhere else inevitably. To those who claim the elderly with dementia? give me a break....... They are one phone call away from wiring away their life savings.
I thought almost like you before. How can anybody not realize that this thing is a scam? But after I figured out ponzi technics I realized that not everybody who enters is an idiot or about to lose their money anyway. I bet you live in a big city and used Internet for quite a while. But a lot people who get in this are from small towns where everybody knows each other and respect each other word more than Internet websites or TV news. All it takes to fool only one person and the whole community will be financially devastated. Not everything is as simple as it looks.
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Really, elderly are only 1% of ponzi base? Considering that they are the most gullible segment of the country population and without looking demo at least 30% of the population, your number is highly unlikely.
Other point that the majority of losers play to the end. Problem with this reasoning is twofold. If you check basic ponzi/pyramid math, even in "honest" scheme at least 50 people will lose money. Second, do you know when ponzi will stop paying? Actually it is possible theoretically, but most people will not be able to do that kind of math.
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Originally Posted by
jarrettcomm
The problem is that the people you describe losing are 1% of the member base. The majority of losers are those who believe they can still make profit before it collapses, but end up being wrong. BOO f******* HOO
And you know this 1% figure is true and can prove it how, exactly ??
Even if it were true, ONE innocent victim is one too many, ESPECIALLY when the "winners" are smart ass posters like the "jarrettcomms" of the world.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Originally Posted by
jarrettcomm
The problem is that the people you describe losing are 1% of the member base. The majority of losers are those who believe they can still make profit before it collapses, but end up being wrong. BOO f******* HOO
What a low class post. huh? Seems like an imbecile, fits the mmg demographic.
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Originally Posted by
Fat City, LA
What a low class post. huh? Seems like an imbecile, fits the mmg demographic.
Nah, not an imbecile.
A smartass keyboard warrior, yep.
Why would he/she care about who gets ripped off or the damage it causes ???
He/she can simply go back to the MMG HYIP ponzi forum and spend the rest of the day doing virtual high-fives and congratulating him/herself on how he/she came over here and "showed us" how tough and uncaring he/she is.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
True measure of a man/women is how you treat those who have no value to you.
Idea is unfathomable to hyipheads.
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Originally Posted by
littleroundman
Nah, not an imbecile.
A smartass keyboard warrior, yep.
Why would he/she care about who gets ripped off or the damage it causes ???
He/she can simply go back to the MMG HYIP ponzi forum and spend the rest of the day doing virtual high-fives and congratulating him/herself on how he/she came over here and "showed us" how tough and uncaring he/she is.
I prefer the term "Basement Wizard". I treat MMG and all forums as monitors, and I do my part.
About the 1% statistic, I'm applying this to the "fun small ponzis". I have the EXACT same mindset as all of you when it comes to, Banners Brokers, Zeek etc. I hate when HYIP's go public and it sickens me.
Don't forget we just have different moral beliefs in all this. Also, uncaring is the wrong word. I'm as honest as humanly possible when it comes to ponzis.
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Originally Posted by
jarrettcomm
I prefer the term "Basement Wizard". I treat MMG and all forums as monitors, and I do my part.
About the 1% statistic, I'm applying this to the "fun small ponzis". I have the EXACT same mindset as all of you when it comes to, Banners Brokers, Zeek etc. I hate when HYIP's go public and it sickens me.
Don't forget we just have different moral beliefs in all this. Also, uncaring is the wrong word. I'm as honest as humanly possible when it comes to ponzis.
Not the response I expected. More compassion than you ever see out of hyiphead crowd.
If it was the just the money$game crowd=enjoy.....
Its the silent majority who go in one time. Not knowing its over... before it started that makes me rage.
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Originally Posted by
Fat City, LA
Not the response I expected. More compassion than you ever see out of hyiphead crowd.
If it was the just the money$game crowd=enjoy.....
Its the silent majority who go in one time. Not knowing its over... before it started that makes me rage.
All I can do to prevent that is to post scam warnings on the forums as soon as red flags pop up. I usually call a program scam long before others.....selective payments are the worst aspect though. You say its a scam, then 20 people post their selective payments, so the newbie doesn't know what to make of it.
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Originally Posted by
Fat City, LA
Not the response I expected. More compassion than you ever see out of hyiphead crowd.
If it was the just the money$game crowd=enjoy.....
Its the silent majority who go in one time. Not knowing its over... before it started that makes me rage.
I know what you mean, believe it or not that's what we have in common though. I get tons of PM's from low post accounts asking me "how does X work?" "Is X a ponzi?" I give them the straightest answer possible, just as you would do. I do not advise against or for it though, I leave it to free will.
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
What has always been fascinating, and totally illogical, to me, are those who claim they "KNOW" a program is a Ponzi, but they "KNOW" how to play the "game." But when it is pointed out that they are stealing from others who don't "KNOW" how to play the "game" they throw a hissy-fit and run crying and complaining to the mods it is name-calling or a personal attack.
Well, if they "KNOW" it is a Ponzi and they "KNOW" how the "game" is played, they "KNOW" it is stealing. And they "KNOW" it is stealing or it wouldn't upset them so much when it is pointed out. The mere definition of a Ponzi is stealing. So if they "KNOW" they are crooks just like the admin running the Ponzi.
But to further deny they are stealing, they all promoted the program as: being real, what a great and honest admin the program has, and how much the admin cares about the little-guy helping him get ahead. You know how the rich want to keep the little guy down, and the evil government only wants their cut as they need the money mantra BS when the feds shut them down that is spouted by all of the in the "KNOWS."
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
What has always been fascinating, and totally illogical, to me, are those who claim they "KNOW" a program is a Ponzi, but they "KNOW" how to play the "game." But when it is pointed out that they are stealing from others who don't "KNOW" how to play the "game" they throw a hissy-fit and run crying and complaining to the mods it is name-calling or a personal attack.
Well, if they "KNOW" it is a Ponzi and they "KNOW" how the "game" is played, they "KNOW" it is stealing. And they "KNOW" it is stealing or it wouldn't upset them so much when it is pointed out. The mere definition of a Ponzi is stealing. So if they "KNOW" they are crooks just like the admin running the Ponzi.
But to further deny they are stealing, they all promoted the program as: being real, what a great and honest admin the program has, and how much the admin cares about the little-guy helping him get ahead. You know how the rich want to keep the little guy down, and the evil government only wants their cut as they need the money mantra BS when the feds shut them down that is spouted by all of the in the "KNOWS."
Ponzi loves say "earned"
Ponzi haters say "Stole"
I say "won"
All your points are right, except the "being real" part only really applies to the Giants of the industry. I very rarely see anyone claim the small fun ponzis are real.
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Originally Posted by
jarrettcomm
Ponzi loves say "earned"
Ponzi haters say "Stole"
I say "won"
All your points are right, except the "being real" part only really applies to the Giants of the industry. I very rarely see anyone claim the small fun ponzis are real.
You are a newbie to Ponzi-land. Try reading some of the forum Closed and Inactive Threads for a real education. There are no "earnings or winnings" only stolen money.
EagleOne
Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
You are a newbie to Ponzi-land. Try reading some of the forum Closed and Inactive Threads for a real education. There are no "earnings or winnings" only stolen money.
Ahh but what about the guy who knows it's a ponzi, and that he could lose his money. Was his money "stolen" or "given" away?
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Originally Posted by
jarrettcomm
Yes, everyone knows this is a ponzi,
Assumption based on anecdotal evidence, therefore invalid.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Originally Posted by
jarrettcomm
People who join without doing a simple google search, or putting any effort into analyzing where there money is going. Will just as easily throw there money away somewhere else.........
Assumption based on anecdotal evidence, therefore invalid.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Originally Posted by
jarrettcomm
Then they are off to find the next ponzi!
Assumption based on anecdotal evidence, therefore invalid.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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Re: Terry Cuthbert again
Originally Posted by
jarrettcomm
Someone not doing any research on an investment is like someone going to play blackjack without having played before.
No, it's not "like" someone playing blackjack for the first time at all, any more than a Volkswagen is "like" a Porsche.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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