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    Re: Frank Calabro Jr

    While it's convenient to call people haters and imply they're jealous of your success, it's not the same as producing evidence that your business ventures have produced lasting success for others. I have no trouble believing some people make very large commissions promoting Ponzi/Pyramid/Chain Letter schemes, MOST DON'T. Additionally, in virtually every Ponzi/Pyramid there are "net winners" that end up taking out more than they put in. Some people don't care as long as they get paid, can't do much about that.

    This begs the question for the person on the fence, is there a way to determine if something is a scam before sinking money in? Do they just have to wait until the feds move in and hear things like they don't understand the model? Maybe some other excuse, we were hacked, admin ran off with the money, evil garden gnomes.

    In my opinion people that want to earn referral commissions holding themselves out as "internet entrepreneurs" should at least follow some variation of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prudent_man_rule .

    The prudent man rule directs trustees "to observe how men of prudence, discretion and intelligence manage their own affairs, not in regard to speculation, but in regard to the permanent disposition of their funds, considering the probable income, as well as the probable safety of the capital to be invested."

    A person presenting an "opportunity" and holding themselves out as some sort of "expert" should at the very least help prospects steer clear of the very basic threats in the scam kingdom. If ANY combination of these things are present RUN with your wallet clutched tightly unless you have a thing for funding the lifestyle of others.

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    In http://www.realscam.com/f12/investin...217/#post88567 there are a few links I often refer back to in writing about scams and wanted a useful place to dump them. Additionally there are things I read of interest to me on investing in general. For the purposes of this thread I will post them with an eye on keeping money safe from predators. The caveat being, I am not an investment professional, not an accountant, not an attorney, not a broker, insurance agent, or super hero and am not giving advice. That said, considering some of the garbage I see passed off one could do worse...

    Some links to agencies that provide a wealth of information on avoiding scams and due diligence. There are probably 1000s of scams written about on this website and I doubt any did not show at least some red flags listed below well before they imploded. Many possess all the warnings and people still want to argue that they somehow have found a program that really works. Can't save them all.



    How to Recognized an HYIP/PONZI Scam

    The promise of high daily, weekly or monthly returns.
    An offer from the company to pay “referral fees” to investors for bringing in additional investors.
    The use of social media to spread the word and praise the program.
    The promoter provides very few details about who runs the company and how profits are generated.
    The promoter may require that the investor open an e-currency account to invest. E-currency accounts are not licensed as a money transmitter.

    http://www.nasaa.org/33583/informed-...dvisory-hyips/

    What are some Ponzi scheme "red flags"?

    Many Ponzi schemes share common characteristics. Look for these warning signs:

    High investment returns with little or no risk. Every investment carries some degree of risk, and investments yielding higher returns typically involve more risk. Be highly suspicious of any "guaranteed" investment opportunity.

    Overly consistent returns. Investment values tend to go up and down over time, especially those offering potentially high returns. Be suspect of an investment that continues to generate regular, positive returns regardless of overall market conditions.

    Unregistered investments. Ponzi schemes typically involve investments that have not been registered with the SEC or with state regulators. Registration is important because it provides investors with access to key information about the company's management, products, services, and finances.

    Unlicensed sellers. Federal and state securities laws require investment professionals and their firms to be licensed or registered. Most Ponzi schemes involve unlicensed individuals or unregistered firms.

    Secretive and/or complex strategies. Avoiding investments you do not understand, or for which you cannot get complete information, is a good rule of thumb.

    Issues with paperwork. Do not accept excuses regarding why you cannot review information about an investment in writing. Also, account statement errors and inconsistencies may be signs that funds are not being invested as promised.

    Difficulty receiving payments. Be suspicious if you do not receive a payment or have difficulty cashing out your investment. Keep in mind that Ponzi scheme promoters routinely encourage participants to "roll over" investments and sometimes promise returns offering even higher returns on the amount rolled over.

    If you are aware of an investment opportunity that might be a Ponzi scheme, contact the SEC by phone at (800) 732-0330 or submit a tip online at sec.gov/complaint/tipscomplaint.shtml.

    SEC.gov | "Ponzi" Schemes

    SEC.gov | Beware of Pyramid Schemes Posing as Multi-Level Marketing Programs

    SEC.gov | Pyramid Schemes

    https://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/te...toconsider.htm

    SEC.gov | Five Questions to Ask Before You Invest

    https://www.sec.gov/contact/addresses.htm

    On checking investment professionals, review both state and federal databases as they aren't always synced up.

    SEC.gov | Protect Your Money: Check Out Brokers and Investment Advisers

    http://www.finra.org/investors/brokercheck-search-help
    Last edited by ribshaw; 09-07-2015 at 08:33 AM.
    "It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Scam-...98399986981403

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