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Michael says:
October 20, 2010 at 10:10 am
I think Trey’s net worth is very relevant and should be made public.
Why?
Because if you do any research on Evolv – you will see that more than the product “Billionaire Trey White” is being marketed. Trey is profiting from a myth that he is a billionaire and using the credibility that comes along with that to sell VERY EXPENSIVE water. Trey is aware people believe…and he knows that it is a reason for people to become a part of Evolv. And he is not doing enough to clear up the misconception. Anyone who does not think this is a big deal isn’t thinking about it in terms of fraud.
So for me, it’s a fair question “how much of a fraud is he”?
Is he worth 800 Million and so he’s practically a billionaire? Is he worth 50 Million? This question needs to be answered.


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• Troy says:
  October 20, 2010 at 8:21 pm
  Michael,
  Thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinions.
  Why is Trey’s network any more relevant than any other shareholder of a private company? Part of the greatness of America is our ability to maintain some form of privacy.
  Now, it is easy to see through his VC firm that he does have access to millions of dollars, and based on the Evolv website it is clear he is NOT a billionaire, although most of us knew that long before the company launched. I’m just not clear on why his personal net-worth is relevant.
  With a little due diligence we may find trey White doesn’t own any of evolv or evolv’s parent company if it has one. Based on Trey’s own words, he does not do business in his personal name, he uses corporate entities, which is common among entrepreneurs, especially those who are in real estate.
  Seems, what would be more important is to know who the equity partners are, and if there are any other VC firms besides Trey’s involved in the company. Something else that is far more important than Trey’s personal net-worth is who is the true owner of the formula, and how long does Evolv have the license agreement for.
  Evolv is not the ones marketing “Billionaire trey White” Although like many companies they allowed the hype to go on way to long, they were clear on the website as to the facts. If we are going to lay blain or point fingers, then you had better call in the top leaders who propagated the story to their organizations.
  Now as for the “Very Expensive” Water. That is truly an old story that doesn’t hold “water” pardon the pun. Ruth Chris restaurant charges $9 on average for a bottle of water. Now that could be called expensive. However some folks would also say a Rolex is expensive.
  The price of any product is going to be priced to sustain the compensation plan, profit for the company, cover the cost of manufacturing, and in some cases future R&D. At the average retail price of $2.70 per bottle, that is still cheaper than an average cup of starbucks coffee which is not as good for you as Evolv water.
  Now back to the main topic… Trey. From day one I have warned folks about over hyping Evolv. Why didn’t you and others heed my warnings? Now that a couple of large teams leave to go elsewhere people all of a sudden want to cast doubt based on the over hyping. Is it fraud, or is it Texas. We all know everything is bigger in Texas.
  Show me some evidence that trey White, Brent Hicks, Evolv corporate ever stated in writing, video or live and in person Trey was a billionaire? Not to say Trey did not allow others to say he was one!
  But let me ask you and others this question. Why didn’t you do the due diligence before joining? Who were you following (if you are a rep or were a rep) who told you he was a billionaire.
  See my point is not to make Trey out a saint. It is to show everyone who has ever stated “trey is a billionaire” is just as much to blame.
  It took me less than 3 min to see Trey want not close to being a billionaire. And I know countless of others who are not a part of the company who also knew this and stated the facts.
  This is no different than all the companies in the world who tell folks “we’re debt free” right up to the time their file for bankruptcy. It wasn’t fraud, it was how what was said was interpreted.
  When folks build any direct selling business around the money story instead of around the product, this is what happens.
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  • Michael says:
    October 20, 2010 at 9:04 pm
    The point is that Trey has knowingly PROFITED from a myth about him being a billionaire. Google Evolv and you will see that the majority of people promoting Evolv were touting Trey’s false Billionaire status.
    If you don’t get why that is fraud, or a problem – you’re obviously too invested in this MLM to objectively look at yourself.
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    • Troy says:
      October 20, 2010 at 9:28 pm
      Michael,
      You have just made a subjective statement with not basis of validation. Where do you get that “Trey has profited” from the myth?” Seriously, Evolv is not close to a profit. They may be cash flow positive, but the amount of money that has flown out of Evolv, there is not one equity partner that is close to getting their investment back, or anything close to a profit.
      And any respectable business person doing business with Trey and Evolv already know this was all hype made up by over zealous distributors.
      I am no no way promoting the myth or condoning the actions of these distributors. But it is this continued fixation on Trey White that is the problem from both the critics and the zealous distributors.
      If you want to put an end to Trey White and Evolv, then stop focusing on trey and find out if the formula inside of the water is real of fake.
      And, as I stated already, show me the evidence Trey WHite and company every specifically stated he was a billionaire. I am not trying to trick you in requesting this information. I ask this, because I am so invested in direct sales. By the way there is no such thing as an MLM company, that is just common talk. MLM and/or Network Marketing (they are different) are compensation structures used by direct selling companies. The true designation is Direct Sales as recognized by the IRS. Just so when you write in other communities, you can be one up on the people you will be debating.
      Ok, back to the topic. Morally, you and others may see this as fraud. A court of law will not see it as fraud, because Evolv has publicly made it clear on the website trey is NOT a billionaire. And they have reprimanded, through their compliance office folks for this lie.
      Again, I have been very clear from day one, this was false. So this is not a new story, many other insiders called the reps out on this.
      Again, if you want to push fraud, then you need to prove the formulation is a fraud. the company is built around the formulation, and that is what is being sold.
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      • Michael says:
        October 24, 2010 at 8:08 am
        Sir, you are stupid. You do not know who I am, or what my connection to Trey White is. And for the protection of someone, I am not going to share that with you.
        Trey knew people were joining to the business because of the Myth of him being a billionaire. Trey benefits (profits) when people come to the business. To suggest Trey has not profited because the business is not yet profitable is truly one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard.
        There are just a million and one reasons why what happened is NOT ACCEPTABLE and should be a MAJOR RED FLAG to anyone considering joining. I’m also confident that a court would see this as fraud. Trey has not done enough to explain or acknowledge what happened.
        How dare you blame over zealous distributors? They were over zealous IN FRONT of Trey and he didn’t correct it. Virtually every website or blog about Evolv talks about Billionaire Trey White – and all he can do is add a “no, i’m not a billionaire” to an FAQ AFTER HE WAS FOUND OUT!?! Give me a break! I don’t buy miracle water from frauds and phoneys. Maybe there is an FAQ that says “this $55 a case water doesn’t do anything”.
        I won’t be reading your response to this. You really need to ask yourself why it’s ok with you that Trey (who has been selling himself more than the water, watch the videos) would let this myth flourish. You really think he’s an honest person?
        
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http://www.realscam.com/f9/trey-whit....html#post4083

There is one of many posts with the video of Trey White grinning like the moronic idiot he is while his rep pats him on the back and introduces him as a multi-billionaire. Trey answers with how that guy is going to ask all the hard questions. So, Troy Dooley don't tell us Trey White isn't directly responsible for originating and perpetuating that lie. More glaring proof that this industry is populated with liars and cons.

As to it being fraudulent, well, try going to court with a bench trial or jury trial and attempting to explain that away. If the victims relied on that information and that induced them to pay into this obvious scam, then it could very well lead to victory for the plaintiff / plaintiffs. Companies and upline reps should be very careful what representations they make to potential marks. If those representations end with money changing hands it ain't going to be pretty for the defendant / defendants.



http://www.pyramidschemealert.org/PSAMain/news/AmwaySuedasPyramidScheme.html

FTC declarations have stated that if the majority of the money used to pay the "upliners" is gained primarily from the purchases of the downliners – not from their retail customers – the payments are de facto payments for recruiting. In such cases, the "business opportunity" is not to sell the MLM products but to recruit others into the "business opportunity" in an endless chain. Endless chains are considered "inherent frauds" since they cannot deliver on their promise of income to any but a few at the top; the vast majority are doomed from the start to financial losses; and the schemes must use deception to lure consumers into nearly certain financial losses.


The FTC also says:
Your Responsibilities
If you decide to become a distributor, you are legally responsible for the claims you make about the company, its product and the business opportunities it offers. That applies even if you're repeating claims you read in a company brochure or advertising flyer. The Federal Trade Commission advises you to verify the research behind any claims about a product's performance before repeating those claims to a potential customer.

In addition, if you solicit new distributors, you are responsible for the claims you make about a distributor's earnings potential. Be sure to represent the opportunity honestly and avoid making unrealistic promises. If those promises fall through, remember that you could be held liable.

Soapboxmom

The morons of the century are at it again:

Evolv Water 90 Day Guarantee

November 20, 2010 by Kathy J
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Evolv Health, at their first annual convention in Dallas, Tx., has announced a 90 day money back guarantee for any customer who is unsatisfied with the Evolv water or Evolv gel product.
The Company is so confident about their products that they will issue a full refund of the product cost for any customer who, for any reason, is unhappy with his or her product experience. In order to receive a refund, customers will be required to return the empty bottles of Evolv water or tubes of Evolv gel. Future products will also be covered through this guarantee.

This news was applauded by the one thousand plus Evolv Health distributors attending the convention. Potential customers who may have been skeptical of the Evolv products will now rest assured in knowing that their results will be guaranteed by the Company.
In addition to offering a guarantee to customers, Evolv Health founder Trey White also announced a 90 Day Guarantee for all new independent distributors who join the business. Provided that they meet certain requirements as set forth by the Company, distributors who are dissatisfied with the business opportunity provided by Evolv Health may also receive reimbursement of their product expenses.

What this means is, there is no reason for any potential customer or business associate to refrain from trying the products or joining the Evolv Health business. With a 90 Day Guarantee, there is absolutely no risk. It doesn’t get much better than that!
If you would like to order the Evolv water or Evolv gel product, please visit
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The Texas ATtorney General's Office says:
https://www.oag.state.tx.us/consumer/bizops.shtml
Business Opportunities

The growth of the Internet, together with a trend toward more and more people working at home, has resulted in a proliferation of "business opportunities." These are offers by companies (or scammers) who claim they can set a consumer up in a small business, usually run out of the consumer's own home.

Some business opportunities are real, and in fact these opportunities are regulated by state law in Texas. But you should be aware that some such opportunities are rip-offs plain and simple. If you are going to consider an offer of this sort, you need to know the difference between a real offer and a scam. It is not always that easy to tell....

What the Law Says





Under the Texas Business Opportunity Act, a business opportunity is regulated by the law if (1) it requires you, the buyer, to pay $500 or more to start the business, AND (2) the seller promises you will earn or are likely to earn a profit exceeding the initial investment, AND (3) the seller promises any one of the following:

• the seller will provide locations or help you find locations on property not owned by either you or the seller for the use of or operation of the products, equipment, supplies, or services the seller is leasing or selling;
• the seller will provide a sales, production, or marketing program; this does not apply if the arrangement is defined as a "franchise" under federal regulation and certain requirements are met;
• the seller will buy back any products, supplies, or equipment purchased, or any product made, fabricated, grown or bred by the purchaser using equipment or products sold or leased by the seller.

A business opportunity meeting these criteria must be registered with the Secretary of State before the seller advertises it or offers it for sale. So your first step in evaluating a business opportunity offer is to see if it meets these criteria. If it does, contact the Secretary of State's Office to see if the business is registered as it is required to be under the law.
The Business Opportunity Act includes a list of eight exceptions which are transactions that do not classify as "business opportunities" under the statute, and are not regulated by the Business Opportunity Act.
Disclosure Requirements




Under the Texas Business Opportunity Act, the seller must provide you with the following information at least 10 days before you sign a contract or turn over any money to the seller:

• The names and addresses of all persons affiliated with the seller in this particular business;
• A copy of a current financial statement of the seller;
• A complete description of the actual services the seller agrees to perform for the purchaser;
• If training is promised, a complete description of the training, length of training, and cost of travel or lodging during the training;
• If services are promised in connection with placement of equipment or products, the full nature of the services and the nature of agreements to be made with the owners or managers of business locations;
• If the seller or his or her representatives have been adjudged bankrupt or have been subject to a judgment in a civil suit involving fraud or embezzlement during the past seven years, he or she must tell you;

If the seller makes representations about sales or earnings potential, he or she must disclose both the total number of people participating in the business opportunity for the past three years and the total number of people who have actually achieved the represented sales or earnings within the past three years.

The seller must give you the following statement in writing as part of the disclosure requirement: If the seller fails to deliver the product, equipment, or supplies necessary to begin substantial operation of the business within 45 days of the delivery date stated in your contract, you may notify the seller in writing and cancel your contract.

The foregoing cancellation policy might seems reassuring, but keep in mind that actually collecting a refund from an unscrupulous operator may be very difficult in reality. This is why it is so important to ensure that the business is registered and has posted the required bond.
Precautions

Promises are frequently made as a "come on" to sell the business opportunity by giving it the appearance of a no-lose proposition. But it is not that easy to set up a new business and make money. The more money the seller says you can make, the more you should investigate those claims for accuracy.

A legitimate seller will want to ask you many questions to see if you have a good opportunity for success. A legitimate seller will not be offended if you ask questions about successful participants in the business opportunity he or she is offering for sale. Many people have lost their entire investment by not checking first.

If the business opportunity seller promises purchasers that they are assured of making profit, he or she is required to secure a bond or trust account of $25,000 in favor of the State of Texas. Before buying a business opportunity, check with the Secretary of State to see if the company is registered and whether such a bond has been filed.
Multi-Level Marketing vs. Pyramid Schemes

Today, a popular type of sales program is "multi-level marketing" (MLM) or "network marketing." Many of these programs do not fall within the guidelines of the Texas Business Opportunity Act, so the sellers do not have to register with the Secretary of State or comply with the disclosure requirements. Such plans do make claims that people can earn money by signing up and participating, and they should be evaluated just as closely as any other type of business opportunity.

Generally, MLM plans allow you to recruit salespeople for your own sales team, who then recruit additional members. You receive commissions from sales made by your team. Team members down the line also get commissions from members below them.

There are legitimate MLM businesses where consumers who sign up can earn money by selling products. However, it is a field in which there are many shady operators and questionable sales programs. Some are nothing more than pyramid schemes.

A pyramid scheme is a plan or operation in which a person receives compensation primarily for bringing in additional participants rather than for selling a product. When you join a pyramid scheme, you pay (promoters may call it "investing") to join. The people you recruit pay you to join. People who get in on a pyramid scheme early might make money in the beginning, but the schemes inevitably collapse, victimizing the recruits at the base of the pyramid.

For an MLM plan to be legal, you must earn more from sales of products than from introducing others to join. Also, the company marketing the plan must have a refund policy that lets you return unused product within one year of purchasing the product. You should be able to get a refund of not less than 90% of what you paid for unused product that is in resalable condition.
Under the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices Act, it is illegal to promote a pyramid scheme. Besides being a civil deceptive trade practice, pyramid promotion is a state jail felony punishable by imprisonment in a state jail for up to two years and by a fine of up to $10,000.
Tips to Help You Evaluate MLMs

• Be skeptical of programs that can only be successful if new recruits continually join the sales organization. Are you required to recruit new people as a condition of joining the organization or can you earn money simply by selling the product?
• Before you join, be sure the product offered is something for which there is a market. Ask what the average monthly retail sales are per salesperson. Be wary of anyone who tells you that you do not have to sell anything to make money. For it to be legitimate, commissions must come from the retail sales of goods, so at some point someone will have to sell something.
• If the program you are considering does not provide distributors with a contractually enforced right to a 90% refund of commercially resalable product within one year of the purchase of the product by the distributor, the program may be an illegal pyramid, not a multi-level distributorship.
• Be extremely careful and wary of buying business opportunities out of weekend seminars given in local hotels, restaurants, or people's homes. Watch out for get-rich-quick plans advertised on late night television infomercials, by email or in the classified ads. If you buy from a seminar at a hotel, restaurant, or other place that is not the business's location, you must be given notice of a three day right to cancel.
• Be wary of a sales pitch that includes promises of high rewards with little effort.
• Be wary of job offers where you are told when you get to the interview that you have to pay money to get the job.
• If you have access to the internet, search on the name of the business and the product being sold to see if people are reporting complaints or problems.
• Be wary of opportunities marketing products purported to cure diseases. These claims are regulated by the U. S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and can only be made with proof that meets FDA standards.
• Be wary of business opportunities where you are told you can lease items to help you make the business successful. Look carefully over any leases or financing agreements. Some of these agreements require you to pay for the leased item even if it does not work or if the company that sold it to you goes out of business.

Revised: May 06 2010
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What a bunch of bloomin' idiots. Evolv has to offer refunds of 90% of the product price for a full year as it is required by law for crying out loud.

Also note that a seller involved in a suit for fraud or adjudicated bankrupt had to disclose that. I have no doubt that reps in those circumstances did not follow the law.

Anyone that was ripped off by these clowns should check out the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices Act.

Soapboxmom

Multi-billionaire buffoon Trey White and his rinky dink Marlin Atlantis still haven't gotten the EarthQuest dinosaur themed park any closer to coming to fruition. I think Don Lessem has been duped and a great man like him who has done so much to educate and entertain the public with his vast knowledge of dinosaurs and more should not have to have his good name tarnished by this bunch! Let's face it that lying buffoon Trey White grinned like the moronic idiot he is and quite happily allowed himself to be introduced on video as a multi-billionaire knowing it would be used to solicit his ridiculous miracle water and be disseminated publicly.

Planned ecology park near 59 would dwarf AstroWorld | Houston & Texas News | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

Amusement Park In Houston? - Houston News Story - KPRC Houston

Discussion about the New Caney Dino Park - Houston Dinosaur Park

Soapboxmom

College students to create game for theme park | Ultimate Kingwood

The EarthQuest Adventures project will be located in New Caney at Roman Forest Boulevard and U.S. 59. Originally slated to be open this year, construction has yet to begin. Initial costs were projected to be $500 million to build the theme park, however, developers have gone back to drawing board and cut $200 million from their projections.
The developer, Marlin Atlantis, told East Montgomery County Investment District board members Nov. 10 that the mixed-use project must be re-planned and built in phases. The first phase of the re-design — the dinosaur theme park and museum -will cost approximately $307 million to build and construction will start in the summer of 2011.

Please allow me to translate that. They have made a freakin' mess out of that thing as they estimated the whole project at 500 million which was probably a gross underestimate of what it would actually cost to build. I would bet the grandiose plans we have been hearing about could have cost double that easily. They are going multi-phase now, because they don't have a snowball's chance in hell funding anything of the sort. Marlin Atlantis is a small time developer of rinky dink little cheap tract house communities and is in way over its head on a project of this proposed magnitude I suspect.

Trey White's multi-billions have mysteriously not been offered for this project though the bragging of his great wealth is quite well documented all over the internet. Investors who have gotten wind of the goofballs like Trey involved in this thing won't touch it with a ten foot pole. 7.5 million in bond money was spent on this fiasco. As a Texan I am furious that that veritable clown college Marlin Atlantis was allowed to get this far. Think of all the time and money wasted. We had planned a vacation at Don Lessem's "Dino Museum" in 2009. I want no part of another Trey White business bust, however!

Soapboxmom

It's one of the oldest tricks in the "Shonky Developers' Handbook"

The clue for me was usage of the phrases "mixed use project" and "tract housing developers" and the supposed involvement of a known fraudster in Trey White.

I may be entirely wrong, and, for the sake of the residents of East Montgomery County Investment District, I sincerely hope I am, but this looks nothing more than a classic "bait and switch" tactic being used to obtain local support and planning concessions from legislators and history will prove there never was any intention of completing the project first mooted.

Master-Planned Communities - Real Estate Developer :: Houston Communities :: Whitestone

Located in southeastern Montgomery County, and with direct access to Hwy 59, this planned premier master-planned community will offer parks, trails, a large lake, and recreational facilities. There are planned landscape reserves and greenbelts for a quiet, natural setting. Whitestone, located on the east side of US 59, is the residential community component of a significant mixed-use development. The entertainment venue as well as a major retail/commercial development are located on the west side of US 59. Residential homes of various types will appeal to a broad market base. In Whitestone, residents will enjoy living, working, playing, and learning, all within the community. Planned are churches, a school site, daycare facilities, shopping offices, and restaurants.
COMING SOON!

That property is adjacent to the long promised Dino Park. Sure is convenient for these developers that with the rumored park the property values have soared. Now long time residents are paying exhorbitant taxes and folks who have recently moved into the area have paid very high prices for the homes. If the park doesn't materialize then many of those recent purchasers could end up upside down in their home loans and be harmed financially. I think the taxpayers deserved much more due diligence on the companies involved before millions of dollars were thrown at them.

Look at the disastrous mess developers Marlin Atlantis made near Duncanville where trees were removed ruining the landscape and creating erosion problems and then the whole deal ended up having to be foreclosed and fixed by the bank.

Dallas Wants to be a Green City, So Why Not Save Some Trees? - Page 1 - News - Dallas - Dallas Observer

Soapboxmom

EarthQuest Institute | EarthQuest Resort

How Will the EarthQuest Institute be Funded?

• EQ “For Profit” contributing $24 million in land and infrastructure
• State of Texas, EMCID and others providing $25 million in funding for construction

The EMCID / East Montgomery County Improvement District has already spent millions. The taxpayers of Texas, myself included, have a right to be demanding answers. I would never have agreed to this if I had known Marlin Atlantis was involved. I have seen enough of Trey White and his moneky business to have serious concerns! I encourage everyone in Texas to contact their representatives.

Who Represents Me--Home

Soapboxmom

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

Master-Planned Communities - Real Estate Developer :: Houston Communities :: Whitestone

That property is adjacent to the long promised Dino Park. Sure is convenient for these developers that with the rumored park the property values have soared. Now long time residents are paying exhorbitant taxes and folks who have recently moved into the area have paid very high prices for the homes. If the park doesn't materialize then many of those recent purchasers could end up upside down in their home loans and be harmed financially. I think the taxpayers deserved much more due diligence on the companies involved before millions of dollars were thrown at them.

Look at the disastrous mess developers Marlin Atlantis made near Duncanville where trees were removed ruining the landscape and creating erosion problems and then the whole deal ended up having to be foreclosed and fixed by the bank.

Dallas Wants to be a Green City, So Why Not Save Some Trees? - Page 1 - News - Dallas - Dallas Observer

Soapboxmom

Here are the loan papers for the Whitestone property. They have until the end of summer and then the loan will have to be renewed again. If they can deveop the property and sell the lots for high dollar they can make a killing. If it bombs the silly dummy corporations are foreclosed on or declare bankruptcy and John Marlin and Trey White will be off to their next business disaster.

Soapboxmom

Hong Kong Disneyland Secrets and Facts General - The Disneyland Report - Disney Secrets, Rumors, and Facts!

Disney's California Adventure - How They Did It

A Master's Paper

There are some great links. What if the total cost to build has been grossly underestimated?

Soapboxmom

I think it's time to call in our resident punting expert, Okosh, and get him to frame a market on the likelihood of:

1) Both the park and recreational projects getting off the ground

2) Either one of them getting off the ground

3) Both of them being completed

3) Either of them being completed

4) That "unforseen circumstances" force force the cancellation of the park project, but that the developers expect to keep the planning concessions they've been granted and completing the residential development.

5) Anything happening at all

Skeptical article in 'Outside' magazine May 2011:

Evolv Multilevel Marketing | OutsideOnline.com

http://www.marlinatlantis.com/pdf/20...Whitestone.pdf

This whole Dino Disaster apparently did begin as the Whitestone residential development. It was supposed to break ground in 2005 and be nearing completion now. I think "Dino Don" got dragged into this when Marlin Atlantis couldn't get this thing off of the ground. Since it has floundered since 2005, why would anyone think it was going to get on track now???

Soapboxmom

I think we should archive this piece of business fiction for posterity:

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He was born a third-generation entrepreneur in Dallas. From young adulthood he devoted time and effort to long-term projections for business success. Understanding that being first to market is a huge advantage, he directed energy toward achievements that positioned him ahead of competitors. To date, he has placed capital of more than $1.5B into companies he founded or co-founded:

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Mr. White is also involved in EarthQuest Adventures. EarthQuest Adventures is currently in the process of designing a $500M theme park in Houston, Texas named EarthQuest. EarthQuest will be the first mega theme park built in the US since DisneyWorld. Its unique position in the Houston market is projected to attract over 3M visitors per year and raise the bar in entertainment while delivering an eco-conscious message. To learn more about EarthQuest visit: EarthQuest's Website
In 2009, Mr. White founded EvolvHealth, LLC. EvolvHealth is a direct sales consumer health company headquartered in Dallas, Texas. Its purpose is to help people improve their family's physical and financial well-being through science-driven products and entrepreneurial opportunities. To learn more about EvolvHealth visit: EvolvHealth's Corporate Home Page

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The only credible aspect of this story is his ability to time his exits. He does have an uncanny knack for bailing right before the dung hits the fan as the Homestore.com debacle and White Energy sale clearly illustrate. More on that to come.....

Soapboxmom

Trey White and Marlin Atlantis need to clean up their act!

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Name:EarthQuest InstituteAddress:21575 US Highway 59 North, Ste 200 New Caney, TX 77357Phone:866-559-4006Web Address:http://www.earthquestinstitute.org/Also known as:Institute EarthQuest


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I checked the County site and no loan extensions, modifications or the like have been filed as of this morning. June 16th is the day the loan is due.

Soapboxmom

This is the link to the website showing loans on property for the Earthquest project. One can search names such as Bank of the Ozarks, Maw Magnolia, Marlin Atlantis, Whitestone and more.

https://gov.propertyinfo.com/WAM3/Se...&iApplNum=4001

This is the link to the website showing ownership of property in Montgomery County Texas.

TaxNetUSA - TX : Montgomery : 2010 Certified : Search

Watch and see boys and girls!

Soapboxmom

http://www.realscam.com/f11/trey-whi...-654/#post8383

Here are more CorporateWiki searches:
Whitestone Houston Land, Ltd. Company Profile - Located in Dallas, TX - Whitestone Houston Holdings, LLC

Whitestone Houston Holdings, LLC Company Profile - Located in Dallas, TX - Deborah A Thomas

Deborah Thomas - Executive Profile

Entertainment Ventures, LLC Company Profile - Located in Dallas, TX - Deborah A Thomas, Roscoe F White, John D Marlin

Roscoe White - Executive Profile

Virtual Eq, LLC Company Profile - Located in Dallas, TX - Entertainment Ventures, LLC, Don Lessem

Global Earthquest Ip Holdings, LLC Company Profile - Located in Dallas, TX - Entertainment Ventures, LLC, Don Lessem

White Energy Hereford, LLC Company Profile - Located in Dallas, TX - Deborah A Thomas, Roscoe F White

The Institute Earthquest Company Profile - Located in Dallas, TX - Donald A Lessem, Leon Cubillas, John Marlin

The Dinosaur Institute Company Profile - Located in Austin, TX - Donald A Lessem, Juliana Flower, Valerie Jones

Wv Holdings LLC Company Profile - Located in Dallas, TX - Roscoe F White, Deborah A Thomas, John D Marlin

Ma Creekside Holdings, LLC Company Profile - Located in Dallas, TX - Deborah A Thomas, John D Marlin, Wv Holdings LLC

Maw Magnolia, Lp Company Profile - Located in Dallas, TX - Maw Magnolia Holdings, LLC

Someone should share this with Oildog over at city-data. That moron couldn't figure out how Trey / Roscoe White was tangled up in this. He banned me for sharing factual information such as this. Trey White and his gang are involved in every aspect of this project and I think it explains the total lack of progress with this project.

Soapboxmom

Located in southeastern Montgomery County, and with direct access to Hwy 59, this planned premier master-planned community will offer parks, trails, a large lake, and recreational facilities. There are planned landscape reserves and greenbelts for a quiet, natural setting. Whitestone, located on the east side of US 59, is the residential community component of a significant mixed-use development. The entertainment venue as well as a major retail/commercial development are located on the west side of US 59. Residential homes of various types will appeal to a broad market base. In Whitestone, residents will enjoy living, working, playing, and learning, all within the community. Planned are churches, a school site, daycare facilities, shopping, offices, and restaurants.
COMING SOON!
«map©2006 - 2009 Marlin Atlantis. All Rights Reserved. | Website Created by: DeWitt Marketing & TNT Media Productions, Ltd.
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That was the current page.

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Following is the page from 2005:


Whitestone is a 1,564 acre Master Planned Community located next to the famous Lake Houston just north of Houston, Texas. This community is ideally located off of the newly improved Highway 59 just north of Kingwood which boasts quick and easy access to frontage roads on both the east and west sides of the highway. With the communities of Kingwood to the south and the Woodlands to the west almost finished out, Whitestone is the next large developable master planned community in the northern sector of Houston. It is located 29 miles from downtown Houston, and provides a quick and convenient route to the major Houston employment centers.

Whitestone is also located just minutes from the new industrial park on 1485 and 1314 which is home to the one million square feet Wal-Mart Distribution Center. This choice land has been owned and preserved by Rice University for more than 100 years and will have over 863 acres of residential living and 205 acres of neighborhood and commercial services. The community plans for two elementary schools, one middle school and a day care center.

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Whitestone will be designed to meet the needs of all families from first time home buyers to second and third move up buyers. Whitestone will provide a sense of community with all the villages linked by miles of hike & bike trails. The goal of Whitestone is to offer a new level of quality and enhanced lifestyle.

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There is a 1043 acre property owned by Whitestone Houston Holding as this website shows. That 19 million dollar loan is due September 1, 2011. The loan showing due on June 16th shows no extension yet. That 19 million dollar loan I take to be on the residential development that has been on the Marlin Atlantis website since 2005. How long can Marlin Atlantis and its dozens of realted LLCs keep paying on these loans whne there seems to be little chance of breaking ground and getting these developments underway?

Soapboxmom

Domain Not Valid

The Earthquest Adventures site is down . I called the hosting service and the hosting fees have not been paid. The site is deactivated. Why is multi-billionaire Trey White not paying???

Soapboxmom

I called the service provider and the hosting fees were not paid. The account was deactivated for non-payment. The service provider most likely sent reminders, but no one bothered to pay the few dollars a month needed to keep the site up. That does not sound to me like they are working on it. We can call Trey White and his flunkies at Marlin Atlantis and inquire!

Registrant:
Global EarthQuest Holdings
13455 Noel Road
Dallas, TX 75240
US

Domain Name: EARTHQUESTADVENTURES.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Global EarthQuest Holdings
13455 Noel Road
Dallas, TX 75240
US
972-715-6400

Record expires on 27-Jan-2012.
Record created on 27-Jan-2007.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS17.WORLDNIC.COM 205.178.190.9
NS18.WORLDNIC.COM 206.188.198.9

Soapboxmom

"Global EarthQuest Holdings" owns about4 other domains

Email Search:
is associated with about 3 domains



Registrar History:
1 registrar


NS History:
1 change on 2 unique name servers over 4 years.


IP History:
6 changes on 6 unique name servers over 4 years.


Whois History:
24 records have been archived since 2007-12-08 .


Reverse IP:
684 other sites hosted on this server.

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Reverse Whois:
"Global EarthQuest Holdings" owns about4 other domains


Email Search:
is associated with about 3 domains



Registrar History:
1 registrar


NS History:
1 change on 2 unique name servers over 4 years.


IP History:
6 changes on 6 unique name servers over 4 years.


Whois History:
24 records have been archived since 2007-12-08 .


Reverse IP:
684 other sites hosted on this server.



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Registrant:
Global EarthQuest Holdings
13455 Noel Road
Dallas, TX 75240
US

Domain Name: EARTHQUESTADVENTURES.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Global EarthQuest Holdings
13455 Noel Road
Dallas, TX 75240
US
972-715-6400

Record expires on 27-Jan-2012.
Record created on 27-Jan-2007.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS17.WORLDNIC.COM 205.178.190.9
NS18.WORLDNIC.COM 206.188.198.9

Website Title:
Domain Not Valid


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#237,816 with 6,787 Unique visitors per month


Quantcast Rank:
#674,093




AboutUs:
Wiki article on Earthquestadventures.com



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Terms:
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Images:
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Links:
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NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.

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2007-01-27


Expires:
2012-01-27


Updated:
2010-11-30


Registrar Status:
clientTransferProhibited



Name Server:
NS17.WORLDNIC.COM (has 3,053,202 domains)

NS18.WORLDNIC.COM (has 3,053,202 domains)



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EarthQuestAdventures.com (registered and active website)

EarthQuestAdventures.net (registered and active website)

EarthQuestAdventures.org (registered and active website)

EarthQuestAdventures.biz (never registered before)

EarthQuestAdventures.info (registered and active website)

EarthQuestAdventures.us (registered and active website)

Apache/2.2.14 (Unix) FrontPage/5.0.2.2635

IP Address:
206.188.192.113Reverse-IP | Ping | DNS Lookup | Traceroute


ASN:
AS19871


IP Location:
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Response Code:
200


Domain Status:
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Why is Trey White the mutli-billionaire of Marlin Atlantis not paying the few dollars a month in hosting fees???

Soapboxmom

Nice blather, but let's see the website back up, property loans extended and ground breaking!

Soapboxmom

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EMCID delays decision on EarthQuest Institute proposal

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Posted: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:00 am
EMCID delays decision on EarthQuest Institute proposalBy TIM WILLERTHouston Community Newspapers | 0 comments
The East Montgomery County Improvement District has turned down a request for funding by a member of the EarthQuest Institute team who wants to build the first phase of the museum project on the grounds of the EMCID Complex.
But Matthew Gardner, the institute’s chief science officer, figures to get another crack at selling his proposal this summer.

Gardner asked improvement district board members for $52,000 to pay for a building design concept and related images and plans he says will help raise $1 million to fill the proposed museum with interactive exhibits and other customer-friendly ‘stuff.’
“I see it as my job to move this project forward,” he told the board Dec. 9.

Gardener added that he plans to ask EMCID for a $1 million loan to build the museum, which he envisions being housed on EMCID soil while EarthQuest Adventures, a proposed 150-acre dinosaur theme park, is being built a few miles away.

Gardner said the first phase of the museum would be constructed with inexpensive, environmentally friendly materials that will be easy to move when the time comes.
A small modular hub, he said, would remain on EMCID property after the shell is moved to the site of the proposed 550-acre mixed-use project at Roman Forest Boulevard and U.S. Highway 59.

EMCID President and CEO Frank McCrady didn’t rule out Gardner’s proposal, asking him to refine his business plan and come back before the board in July.
“Absolutely we’re very interested in making this happen,”McCrady said. “It would give (EarthQuest Institute) a showcase, kind of a stage. I think having (the museum) on our property is one of the ways we can help.”

Gardner said he was not disappointed, but determined to press on in his quest to raise funding to build the nonprofit institute, which develops and presents state-of-the art exhibits, programs and information on energy, the environment and sustainable living.

“My goal is to find the resources to make this happen,” he said.
Last month, the EarthQuest Adventures developer told EMCID board members the mixed-use project must be re-packaged and built in phases in order to secure investors.
The first phase of the redesign - the dinosaur theme park and museum - will cost approximately $307 million to build
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I believe that Earthquest Institue is the only part of the project that can and should be saved. John Marlin, Trey White and all their phony LLCs , LPs and nonsense should be sent packing. Dr. Matthew Gardner and "Dino Don" Lessem should get their museum.

Fake multi-billionaire Trey White and his sidekick John Marlin should never have been allowed to go this far with taxpayers money. I firmly believe they are the reason the project is in the sad state is obviously in. Still no website. Still no loan extensions on file. Where have the millions of dollars thrown at this project gone???

Soapboxmom

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EMCID delays decision on EarthQuest Institute proposalBy TIM WILLERTHouston Community Newspapers | 0 comments
The East Montgomery County Improvement District has turned down a request for funding by a member of the EarthQuest Institute team who wants to build the first phase of the museum project on the grounds of the EMCID Complex.
But Matthew Gardner, the institute’s chief science officer, figures to get another crack at selling his proposal this summer.

Gardner asked improvement district board members for $52,000 to pay for a building design concept and related images and plans he says will help raise $1 million to fill the proposed museum with interactive exhibits and other customer-friendly ‘stuff.’
“I see it as my job to move this project forward,” he told the board Dec. 9.

Gardener added that he plans to ask EMCID for a $1 million loan to build the museum, which he envisions being housed on EMCID soil while EarthQuest Adventures, a proposed 150-acre dinosaur theme park, is being built a few miles away.

Gardner said the first phase of the museum would be constructed with inexpensive, environmentally friendly materials that will be easy to move when the time comes.
A small modular hub, he said, would remain on EMCID property after the shell is moved to the site of the proposed 550-acre mixed-use project at Roman Forest Boulevard and U.S. Highway 59.

EMCID President and CEO Frank McCrady didn’t rule out Gardner’s proposal, asking him to refine his business plan and come back before the board in July.
“Absolutely we’re very interested in making this happen,”McCrady said. “It would give (EarthQuest Institute) a showcase, kind of a stage. I think having (the museum) on our property is one of the ways we can help.”

Gardner said he was not disappointed, but determined to press on in his quest to raise funding to build the nonprofit institute, which develops and presents state-of-the art exhibits, programs and information on energy, the environment and sustainable living.

“My goal is to find the resources to make this happen,” he said.
Last month, the EarthQuest Adventures developer told EMCID board members the mixed-use project must be re-packaged and built in phases in order to secure investors.
The first phase of the redesign - the dinosaur theme park and museum - will cost approximately $307 million to build
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I believe that Earthquest Institue is the only part of the project that can and should be saved. John Marlin, Trey White and all their phony LLCs , LPs and nonsense should be sent packing. Dr. Matthew Gardner and "Dino Don" Lessem should get their museum.

Fake multi-billionaire Trey White and his sidekick John Marlin should never have been allowed to go this far with taxpayers money. I firmly believe they are the reason the project is in the sad state is obviously in. Still no website. Still no loan extensions on file. Where have the millions of dollars thrown at this project gone???

Soapboxmom