Thread: Brad Kamanski / AKA Brad Franklin / Brad Kamans / Kamans7 / Brad K Scammin' Fool

[QUOTE=kamans7;57047]You pig headed ass! A friend of mine was in the ATP. I am sure you can figure out the initials for that organization. He was on his way to the All England club to play singles and invited me to join him in the doubles event!.[/QUOTE

I can not figure out what ATP stands for, Sorry.

So who coached you and your friend? World class athletes have coaches Brad.

Did your friend invite you to play at All England tournaments when you were both junior, senior or veteran members?

Did you play at any Inter Varsity tennis matches while you attended Oxford University during the summer? Or have you admitted to having gone to a college in Oxford rather than to Oxford University?

If you are as good as you say you are, I am surprised you were not chosen to play against Cambridge in Inter Varsity tournaments. An Oxford tennis blue would be a real feather in your cap!

Oxford Lawn Tennis Club.

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

The only thing I asked you was the name of your tennis coach Brad and you have not answered that.

There are tennis tournaments at Wimbledon throughout the summer and you could have been invited to play in any of them. The armed forces have championships which are held at Wimbledon. Unknowns can play in the Army versus Navy or other Wimbledon championships. Dame Kelly Holmes was nothing but an unknown army squaddie when she appeared on world stage as a medium distance runner. The Army may have produced some tennis champions but I only know Dame Kelly as one who came up through the army ranks to become an athletic legend.

You have not told us what tournaments you were invited to play in Brad. If you were invited to play at Wimbledon in the All England Championships then you could give us the name of your coach Brad. If not, it is not hard for us to think that your invitation was sent by "The Tooth Fairy"

First Coach Kay Drake in Pacific Palisades. Next Victor Gedgoudas (spelling questionable). Third... Bud Ware at Palisades High. Fourth. Myron McNamara Carmel Valley Tennis Camp. (******* took away my two handed backhand). Next Coach Glenn Dickey at Redwood High School. College Coaches Ivan Madar and Keith Shein. Does that help?

[QUOTE=path2prosperity;57053]

Originally Posted by kamans7

You pig headed ass! A friend of mine was in the ATP. I am sure you can figure out the initials for that organization. He was on his way to the All England club to play singles and invited me to join him in the doubles event!.[/QUOTE

I can not figure out what ATP stands for, Sorry.

So who coached you and your friend? World class athletes have coaches Brad.

Did your friend invite you to play at All England tournaments when you were both junior, senior or veteran members?

Did you play at any Inter Varsity tennis matches while you attended Oxford University during the summer? Or have you admitted to having gone to a college in Oxford rather than to Oxford University?

If you are as good as you say you are, I am surprised you were not chosen to play against Cambridge in Inter Varsity tournaments. An Oxford tennis blue would be a real feather in your cap!

Oxford Lawn Tennis Club.

ATP= Association Of Tennis Professionals. See my post about the coaches I have had. I did forget to mention I was offered a FULL RIDE at U of Hawaii that I turned down. Personal reasons that if I divulged the group here would run with it and try even harder to destroy...I never played tennis while at University College in Oxford on High Street but I did give the #2 Squash Player a fair beat down. I had NEVER even played squash. The only Pro event I played here in the US was the Transamerica Open. I drew a McEnroe teammate from Stanford in the qualifying round and he beat me in straight sets. It allowed me a players pass and I remember going to the tournament to watch my friend Vince Van Patten play. Had a ball! Have a great day! Brad

Brad, it makes no difference what you have done in the PAST, who you had dinner with, who you played tennis with, where you did or didn't go to school/university, or any other of your stated accomplishments. It is what you are doing now, promoting illegal cash gifting schemes trying to sanitize them as being legal when they are not that matters. Bernie Madoff founded the NASDAQ, and look where it landed him. You are no different. Cash gifting is illegal and there have been plenty of people put in prison for running and participating in illegal cash gifting.

Now you can try to sugar coat it to all the ignorant who do not know better about cash gifting being illegal, but that dog won't hunt here. You also like to claim not all cash gifting is illegal. This is a bald face lie. Your trying to claim otherwise is a lie.

Instead of trying to impress everyone with all your past exploits, you are merely obfuscating the topic of this thread and that is you are a scammer, and always have been a scammer on the Internet. Try proving us wrong instead of trying to call us names, but we both know you can't do that. Anyone with an IQ above 50 knows who we all are, so why don't you?

Originally Posted by EagleOne

Brad, it makes no difference what you have done in the PAST, who you had dinner with, who you played tennis with, where you did or didn't go to school/university, or any other of your stated accomplishments. It is what you are doing now, promoting illegal cash gifting schemes trying to sanitize them as being legal when they are not that matters. Bernie Madoff founded the NASDAQ, and look where it landed him. You are no different. Cash gifting is illegal and there have been plenty of people put in prison for running and participating in illegal cash gifting.

Now you can try to sugar coat it to all the ignorant who do not know better about cash gifting being illegal, but that dog won't hunt here. You also like to claim not all cash gifting is illegal. This is a bald face lie. Your trying to claim otherwise is a lie.

Instead of trying to impress everyone with all your past exploits, you are merely obfuscating the topic of this thread and that is you are a scammer, and always have been a scammer on the Internet. Try proving us wrong instead of trying to call us names, but we both know you can't do that. Anyone with an IQ above 50 knows who we all are, so why don't you?

I agree with you completely that people ARE put in prison if the program they promote has an illegal structure. However, I had a Lawyer and Accountant give me the green light on TPP and BOTH were very familiar with the law pertaining to gifting. So, as long as the program I promote is above board I will continue to do so. I DO NOT believe it is illegal Lyndell. I have seen many come and go that were. If you are right then I may be in trouble with the law one day and I will cross that bridge when I get there. Or, if you would like to suggest a home business that you think is 100% legitimate I will look at it. God bless you and I hope you find peace.

As far as calling me a scammer is that ALL you have? You see, NOT ONE person has proven anything here! All they do is claim ALL cash gifting to be illegal. Next time I get $300 from my mother on my birthday I better claim it so the IRS can give it to illegal aliens who claim seven to ten dependents living in Mexico and get TAX REFUNDS of $15,000 or more! Now, there is a system I want to support! How about you?

Originally Posted by kamans7

I agree with you completely that people ARE put in prison if the program they promote has an illegal structure. However, I had a Lawyer and Accountant give me the green light on TPP and BOTH were very familiar with the law pertaining to gifting. So, as long as the program I promote is above board I will continue to do so. I DO NOT believe it is illegal Lyndell. I have seen many come and go that were. If you are right then I may be in trouble with the law one day and I will cross that bridge when I get there. Or, if you would like to suggest a home business that you think is 100% legitimate I will look at it. God bless you and I hope you find peace.

As far as calling me a scammer is that ALL you have? You see, NOT ONE person has proven anything here! All they do is claim ALL cash gifting to be illegal. Next time I get $300 from my mother on my birthday I better claim it so the IRS can give it to illegal aliens who claim seven to ten dependents living in Mexico and get TAX REFUNDS of $15,000 or more! Now, there is a system I want to support! How about you?

So did your lawyer and accountant (I have a hard time visualizing an accountant in your life, unless Mrs. Kamanski is one, mind you) also green light your personally-run Ponzi scheme, 1k2k3kAllDay, or your practice of postal chain letters?

Originally Posted by kamans7

I agree with you completely that people ARE put in prison if the program they promote has an illegal structure. However, I had a Lawyer and Accountant give me the green light on TPP and BOTH were very familiar with the law pertaining to gifting. So, as long as the program I promote is above board I will continue to do so. I DO NOT believe it is illegal Lyndell. I have seen many come and go that were. If you are right then I may be in trouble with the law one day and I will cross that bridge when I get there. Or, if you would like to suggest a home business that you think is 100% legitimate I will look at it. God bless you and I hope you find peace.

As far as calling me a scammer is that ALL you have? You see, NOT ONE person has proven anything here! All they do is claim ALL cash gifting to be illegal. Next time I get $300 from my mother on my birthday I better claim it so the IRS can give it to illegal aliens who claim seven to ten dependents living in Mexico and get TAX REFUNDS of $15,000 or more! Now, there is a system I want to support! How about you?

Twist, turn, deny, deflect and change the subject. LOL, SOP, it's on page 8 paragraph 3 of the "official Scammers Handbook.

Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins

So did your lawyer and accountant (I have a hard time visualizing an accountant in your life, unless Mrs. Kamanski is one, mind you) also green light your personally-run Ponzi scheme, 1k2k3kAllDay, or your practice of postal chain letters?

The "coward" always chimes in and gives his two cents worth! I was under the impression that a "chain" letter was a list of names with NO apparent product progressing to the top of the list was illegal. Since I only promote two Mail Order programs any more I am assuming since they are "product based" (read the flyers provided you can read) they are legal. The 1k 2k 3k Program started out as a good concept. When I discovered that if I COLLECT ALL the money that is when you run into the PONZI SCHEME I quickly changed it and had the money sent member to member. However, like THOUSANDS of programs online people LOST interest and there was not ONE sale over a four month period so I decided to close it. I am NOT the only owner who has ever closed down a program. If that makes me a scammer so be it. What industry are you in? I am curious...

And I will admit that I NEVER took money that did NOT belong to me! Every member who promoted the program ALWAYS got the money they were qualified to receive! 100% of it. A real SCAMMER would have taken ALL the money. Don't you agree?

I have a question? If I quit cash gifting will you remove this thread?

Originally Posted by EagleOne

Brad, it makes no difference what you have done in the PAST, who you had dinner with, who you played tennis with, where you did or didn't go to school/university, or any other of your stated accomplishments. It is what you are doing now, promoting illegal cash gifting schemes trying to sanitize them as being legal when they are not that matters. Bernie Madoff founded the NASDAQ, and look where it landed him. You are no different. Cash gifting is illegal and there have been plenty of people put in prison for running and participating in illegal cash gifting.

Now you can try to sugar coat it to all the ignorant who do not know better about cash gifting being illegal, but that dog won't hunt here. You also like to claim not all cash gifting is illegal. This is a bald face lie. Your trying to claim otherwise is a lie.

Instead of trying to impress everyone with all your past exploits, you are merely obfuscating the topic of this thread and that is you are a scammer, and always have been a scammer on the Internet. Try proving us wrong instead of trying to call us names, but we both know you can't do that. Anyone with an IQ above 50 knows who we all are, so why don't you?

We have succeeded in getting Brad to supply names of his tennis coaches and more details about his claim to have been a student at Oxford University. Our job is done. It is up to modern historians to decide if they wish to check the facts and record his biographical details for posterity.

He is some sort of "has been" in the world of sport and that will be of interest to some people who are alive today. My father and son achieved similar sporting success whist at Oxford. My father got a half blue for boxing. My son got a half blue for rowing but he was in the blue boat when Oxford raced both Harvard and Yale so some Americans may class him as a full Oxford rowing blue. These facts can be verified but they are of interest to a very small minority.

My father's life is of far more interest to posterity because he was some sort of judge at the Neuremburg trials. He was only a minor figure in the British zone of post war Germany but he was fluent in Russian, French, German and English and had been a solicitor for eighteen years before he was sent to Germany by the British Army. He won the first traveling scholarship from the school of Slavonic languages at Oxford in 1919 and lived in Riga for a year before returning to Oxford as an undergraduate. There are people at Oxford and Moscow University with whom he discussed his experiences that know what he had to say about his time in Russia and post war Germany than i will ever know. All I know is that he hated his job in Germany because he was forced to pronounce judgements on people without sufficient evidence to be sure and he had pronounced many innocent and they got away to perpetrate more crimes. The guilt of making wrong decisions weighed on him for the rest of his life. The point of my saying this is that historians can uncover facts about him if they consider him of sufficient interest to posterity. To me he was my Dad and that is all that matters.

Brad may be a petty criminal, a poor fool or a career criminal but he has been involved in illegal activities and history will be his judge and jury. You, me and other RS members have offered our opinions and facts which we have uncovered to help historians on both sides of the Atlantic to see him in his true colours and get the right perspective of the man.

ob·fus·cate
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ob·fus·cat·edob·fus·cat·ing


Definition of OBFUSCATE

transitive verb
1a: darken
b: to make obscure <obfuscate the issue>

2: confuse <obfuscate the reader>

intransitive verb
: to be evasive, unclear, or confusing
— ob·fus·ca·tion noun
— ob·fus·ca·to·ry adjective

Examples of OBFUSCATE

• Politicians keep obfuscating the issues.
• Their explanations only serve to obfuscate and confuse.

Origin of OBFUSCATE

Late Latin obfuscatus, past participle of obfuscare, from Latin ob- in the way + fuscus dark brown —First Known Use: 1577

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Synonyms
becloud, befog, blur, cloud, fog, muddy, confuseAntonymsclarify, clear (up), illuminateRelated Wordscomplicate, perplex, sophisticate; entangle, snarl, tangle; disarrange, disarray, discompose, dishevel, disorder, disrupt, disturb, jumble, mess (up), mix (up), muddle, scramble, shuffle, tousle, upset

There ya go, Braddles,

that's what you're doing

Here's another one for you,

this is what you are being:

dis·in·gen·u·ous

/ˌdisinˈjenyo͞oəs/

Adjective Not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.

Synonyms insincere - false - devious - hollow-hearted

* Cash gifting IS illegal in every state of the U.S.A.

* The IRS does NOT regulate cash gifting. The IRS is only concerned with the tax implications of gift giving.

* Using terms such as "as I understand it" or "I am lead to believe" means nothing in the context of this discussion

* YOUR understanding of what constitutes a "pyramid SCHEME" is irrelevant. (Note: the description used is of what you do as being a pyramid SCHEME and not a pyramid SHAPED scheme.

* Call them cash gifting, pyramid schemes, endless chain recruiting schemes, chain letters or what you will. It illegal to both promote AND participate in any such scheme. Whether or not everyone "got paid" is entirely irrelevant.

* The original "concept" is also totally irrelevant. 1k 2k 3k was an illegal cash gifting scheme.

So, in answer to your question, Braddles, NO, the thread will not be deleted.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

There ya go, Braddles,

that's what you're doing

Here's another one for you,

this is what you are being:



* Cash gifting IS illegal in every state of the U.S.A.

* The IRS does NOT regulate cash gifting. The IRS is only concerned with the tax implications of gift giving.

* Using terms such as "as I understand it" or "I am lead to believe" means nothing in the context of this discussion

* YOUR understanding of what constitutes a "pyramid SCHEME" is irrelevant. (Note: the description used is of what you do as being a pyramid SCHEME and not a pyramid SHAPED scheme.

* Call them cash gifting, pyramid schemes, endless chain recruiting schemes, chain letters or what you will. It illegal to both promote AND participate in any such scheme. Whether or not everyone "got paid" is entirely irrelevant.

* The original "concept" is also totally irrelevant. 1k 2k 3k was an illegal cash gifting scheme.

So, in answer to your question, Braddles, NO, the thread will not be deleted.

Uncle! Uncle! I give up! I am NO LONGER promoting cash gifting! I can get by without it!

Originally Posted by kamans7

Uncle! Uncle! I give up! I am NO LONGER promoting cash gifting! I can get by without it!

If that's what it takes...educating people about scams instead of name calling, finger pointing, blaming, taking personal shots at one another, demeaning others by all parties involved, on both sides...I am happy to see it.

I have a special place in my mind that that I think certain people belong. ken/drdave/russo/, faith sloan, blondie, drbooby, braddles, and all the co-conspirators
of these scams (I am sure I forgot a few of the scammers) belong. I really hope they rot there.

Originally Posted by baylee

I have a special place in my mind that that I think certain people belong. ken/drdave/russo/, faith sloan, blondie, drbooby, braddles, and all the co-conspirators
of these scams (I am sure I forgot a few of the scammers) belong. I really hope they rot there.

There are probably those who are serial scammers and those who are not. Does that mean we should 'paint everyone with the same brush'? Don't you think there may be more going on than meets the eye with some? Should we put ALL scammers in the same category? Should we put ALL scambusters in the same category? Why would you or anyone wish something on someone else that you wouldn't wish on you or yours?

Originally Posted by kamans7

I have a question? If I quit cash gifting will you remove this thread?

No. Forgiveness might be earned by a sinner, but we do not forget. Not after so much. And for forgiveness, ask angels or your fellow man, nether of which am I.
You're going to have to live with the scarlet letter of this thread until the Internet is demolished.

Originally Posted by Nancetta

There are probably those who are serial scammers and those who are not. Does that mean we should 'paint everyone with the same brush'? Don't you think there may be more going on than meets the eye with some? Should we put ALL scammers in the same category? Should we put ALL scambusters in the same category? Why would you or anyone wish something on someone else that you wouldn't wish on you or yours?

Sorry, there may be some point in time where I could possibly change my mind but years and years of scamming and a one time sorry about that doesn't cut it.
Maybe later but not now.

Originally Posted by baylee

Sorry, there may be some point in time where I could possibly change my mind but years and years of scamming and a one time sorry about that doesn't cut it.

I get that...I really do. I have been put thru the ringer and back by both sides. But does that mean that there can't be some compassion found somewhere for 'real people'? Is there one person on this site who can 'cast the first stone'? Can we not all learn by 'teaching'? Is there one of us on this site, and on all the others, who can claim we were 'perfect' in life? If so, I would love to meet them because I know it's not me. Teach Brad, and others, that cash gifting is wrong.

Originally Posted by kamans7

I have a question? If I quit cash gifting will you remove this thread?

Not a hope since your posts indicate that you see nothing wrong with what you doing but rather you say you will quit cos you been exposed...

Originally Posted by Nancetta

There are probably those who are serial scammers and those who are not. Does that mean we should 'paint everyone with the same brush'? Don't you think there may be more going on than meets the eye with some? Should we put ALL scammers in the same category? Should we put ALL scambusters in the same category? Why would you or anyone wish something on someone else that you wouldn't wish on you or yours?

No "Nancetta" neither, we nor or anybody who is alive today can paint an accurate picture of any of these scammers or our fellow scam busters. What we can do is to present facts and opinions that will help historians to paint them more accurately so that the pieces of each "scam zig saw" can be completed in the future.

Brad comes over to me as somebody who has extreme difficulty with communications of any sort. Pre senile dementia? Alcohol or drug induced hallucination? or psychopathic levels of greed? Religious nut case?

His friends and family may not have recorded any of his biographical information for posterity YET but when they do his part in cash gifting scams will become more clear. When I did industrial psychometric profiling, I used to invite four or five people to help me build a profile of the "person" people in the company wanted to fill a key post. Most of those were very similar. Next step was to ask a person who had done the job or was currently doing the job to fill out a profile of himself/herself. That profile was completely different from the one compiled by him or her . WHY?

Because people's behaviour is based on their own self image and that is influenced by the way others see you. We need a profile of Brad from observers in his workplace as well as the ones presented by clinical pshchometric profilers for posterity. Our input on scammers and scam busters should not be viewed as a judgement. It is an opinion of how this man's behaviour comes over to observers in June 2013. He comes over to me as somebody who is deeply disturbed about who knows what.

Originally Posted by baylee

I have a special place in my mind that that I think certain people belong. ken/drdave/russo/, faith sloan, blondie, drbooby, braddles, and all the co-conspirators
of these scams (I am sure I forgot a few of the scammers) belong. I really hope they rot there.

I think that these people's involvement in online scams has been sufficiently exposed to take the same attitude as you "baylee." They come over to me as recidivist scam promoters who have no intention of doing anything other than earning from victims in this unsavourary sub culture.

Originally Posted by Nancetta

I get that...I really do. I have been put thru the ringer and back by both sides. But does that mean that there can't be some compassion found somewhere for 'real people'? Is there one person on this site who can 'cast the first stone'? Can we not all learn by 'teaching'? Is there one of us on this site, and on all the others, who can claim we were 'perfect' in life? If so, I would love to meet them because I know it's not me. Teach Brad, and others, that cash gifting is wrong.

I think Nancetta truly demonstrates the spirit of Christ in this Sea Of Devils. Without giving away too much let me just say that NOT ONE of you could walk an inch in MY SHOES.

From the time I was 12 years old to 14 years old I was being violently raped by a MALE relative! I think you cannot fathom what that does to ones self esteem. I wandered through life lost and my own mother could NOT figure out why I was so angry. As a senior in High School I got into a fight with a black belt at a dance and beat him so severely he was hospitalized. I damn near went to jail for that. I never could hold a job because I did not trust anybody! In 1993 I got married for the first time and in 1995 I was working at Computer City in Alaska when I got the phone call NO ONE wants to get. My manager sat me down and told me my wife and two sons had been in a head on collision. My five month old baby Tyler Michael was in the front seat in my wives lap. They went into the dashboard together and Tyler started having violent seizures two days after the accident up until his death in 1997. He left me with over $750,000 in medical bills and weekly visits to the emergency room. He died on his brother Kyle's birthday at 2 1/2 years old. That devastated me again and the accident led to our divorce.

Today I have been delivered (10 years now) miraculously from a twenty year battle with cocaine addiction. I credit the Lord Jesus Christ and my relationship with God the Father for the deliverance. About the only thing I can do is work for myself and you all are doing your best to stop that! I appreciate the effort you put into hurting me but as you can see I have been through enough hurt in my life. Thank you ALL for being so compassionate. As far as gifting goes I really still do not believe ALL gifting is illegal. It is just my opinion. Also, when I enroll people IN ANY PROGRAM I always go FULL DISCLOSURE (unlike most of my fellow gifters) and even let them know there is a LOAD of controversy about gifting. That is just how I conduct business. I do not LIE to people like ALL of you say I do. Anyway, I have to go. Have a great day and try to be MORE like Nancetta! That would make GOD smile!

Looking at the obituary for Tyler Michael Kamanski of Anchorage, Alaska, I see one key piece of information is missing.
It's among the list of his surviving relatives... there is no mention of Brad at all.

In addition to his mother, Tyler is survived by his brothers, Kyle and Christopher; best friend, Doug; grandparents, Jim and Annette; aunt and uncle, James and Cheryl; cousin, James; and great aunt, Sharon. Arrangements by Kehl's Forest Lawn Mortuary and Crematory.

Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins

Looking at the obituary for Tyler Michael Kamanski of Anchorage, Alaska, I see one key piece of information is missing.
It's among the list of his surviving relatives... there is no mention of Brad at all.

You have to be the coldest person on Earth Higgy. My ex wife would NOT even let me speak at the service. Another dagger in my already broken heart. May God forgive you and have mercy on your soul!

Kamanski,

I too have had to deal with unimaginable circumstances for many years. I do not talk about all that here as this is not the place for it. The point of this thread is your involvement in clearly illegal cash gifting schemes and other uneconomic scams that harm the vast majority that participate in them.

You choose to push those "opportunities" and I am concerned about your victims.