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    Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?

    One of the things the internet has ushered in is the U-TUBE GURU who claims to have an answer to all of your financial ills. Most of what I have seen in my short time online is a recruiting type scheme. A person puts up a video, maybe a website like AlanSills.com | Adding value and support for the entrepreneur and small business professional, then tells you about a great deal, for a fee you can get in. Of course they earn a commission from your entry into the program. The actual program itself seems almost secondary, just has to sound good.

    In these two videos Al Sills promotes his affiliate link to the Elevation Group. Those who have read these pages know all about Forex Scams and returns of 100%+, in fact anyone who has been around knows if it sounds to good to be true, it is. I will save the reader the suspense of how it turned out, but think a train wreck meets your wallet.

    One of the things an astute reader will notice is the absence of negative or skeptical comments on many of the videos. All aces as they say, but here is the not so secret trick. The people who manage these channels simply delete and block anyone who dares question their great opportunities. Al has blocked several friends of mine from his U-Tube Channel, so as they say, it is time for home court advantage.

    I am left asking several questions... Is this person qualified to evaluate business opportunities? Does this person think these are legitimate businesses opportunities? Does this person know they are promoting scams and not care? Or does this person, know a good thing and only want to get you in on the deal?



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    In May 2012, investors learned that Pousa’s offering was a massive fraud.”
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    Re: Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?

    The video is more of the same blather, with the same reference to the "referral link". What I think is more important is the screen shot of below the video. 100% returns. LMAO!!!



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    Re: Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?

    Alan Sills is a VERY heavy promoter and apologist in chief for Banners Broker. Quite a few folks both on and off this site have done work exposing Banners Broker and now Rippln. Both threads here are excellent reading on the types of scams that proliferate on the internet.

    http://www.realscam.com/f8/banners-b...onzi-scam-897/

    http://www.realscam.com/f9/rippln-py...u-decide-2241/
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    Re: Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?

    A lot of good information on the web, including an awesome thread linked below on one Dinar Scam. I am all for asking questions, but who do you go to for advice and how do things turn out. If someone is asking you to "go in to business with them" do you know where they are getting their information? Almost all thing Iraqi Dinar Revaluation related have proved 100% false.

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    Re: Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?

    HUZBE is going to be the next big thing, just like Banners Broker will have Google Crying Uncle. Oh look an affiliate program.

    Hubze is the brainchild of David Foster, CEO and is currently still in the pre-launch stage. As a company, it first started out being called "Moneza" but this was changed a week later as it was felt that its name implied that it was all about making money. It is a social networking tool that will give an individual access to all of their social networking sites such as Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn with just one click of a button. Alongside this, the company are offering an affiliate program

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    Re: Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?

    Hold the phones, Universal Private Banking to replace Pay Pal. Are we seeing a trend, things being pitched are going to replace things that already exist, for a fee of course.

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    How did it turn out?

    From this awesome blog..A MLM Skeptic: BREAKING NEWS: "Universal Private Banking", not a bank, got flagged as PHISHING SCAM by McAfee

    Instead, this "banking service" (apparently unlicensed) is charging $20 to open an account, paying out 1% bonuses to anyone who wants to deposit money, as well as bonus for any one recruited to join (paid to the recruiter).

    And this awesome blog.. McAfee Site Advisor Issues Phishing Warning On ‘UPrivateBanking,’ Program Targeted At Profitable Sunrise Victims

    UPDATED 6:12 P.M. EDT (MAY 7, U.S.A.) McAfee Site Advisor has issued a phishing warning for the website domain of “UPrivateBanking,” one of the “programs” targeted on Facebook at victims of the Profitable Sunrise HYIP scheme.

    And this awesome blog.. Universal Private Banking Review: An MLM bank? | BehindMLM

    As always, if an MLM company is not openly upfront about who is running or owns it, think long and hard about joining and/or handing over any money.
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    Re: Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?

    Here is another big thing, YOLI, guess who is a/was a distributor? Admittedly I have held a few jobs in my life, some for years, and a one for just a few hours. But to claim to be a "work form home" blasy blah, shouldn't one be able to turn up some thins that have worked? Not worked for a year, or worked until recruits dried up, but an actual business that sustains itself.

    Unless, and I am just speculating here, your whole income is based on recruiting, recruiting, recruiting.


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    Re: Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?

    SEND OUT CARDS....

    Alan Sills's Profile on Swom.com - Swom.com

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    Alan Sills, Real Estate Mortgage Broker - ActiveRain.com

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    This is an aside, completely unrelated, but it sure would be nice to know the terms being made on the reverse mortgages. This is an area rife with bad deals for seniors. So much so that the FBI has a warning about it. In fairness Al could be making these loans on great terms, just don't know.

    Reverse Mortgage Scams

    The FBI and the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development Office of Inspector General (HUD-OIG) urge consumers, especially senior citizens, to be vigilant when seeking reverse mortgage products. Reverse mortgages, also known as home equity conversion mortgages (HECM), have increased more than 1,300 percent between 1999 and 2008, creating significant opportunities for fraud perpetrators.

    Reverse mortgage scams are engineered by unscrupulous professionals in a multitude of real estate, financial services, and related companies to steal the equity from the property of unsuspecting senior citizens or to use these seniors to unwittingly aid the fraudsters in stealing equity from a flipped property.

    In many of the reported scams, victim seniors are offered free homes, investment opportunities, and foreclosure or refinance assistance. They are also used as straw buyers in property flipping scams. Seniors are frequently targeted through local churches and investment seminars, as well as television, radio, billboard, and mailer advertisements.

    A legitimate HECM loan product is insured by the Federal Housing Authority. It enables eligible homeowners to access the equity in their homes by providing funds without incurring a monthly payment. Eligible borrowers must be 62 years or older who occupy their property as their primary residence and who own their property or have a small mortgage balance. See the FBI/HUD Intelligence Bulletin for specific details on HECMs as well as other foreclosure rescue and investment schemes.

    Tips for Avoiding Reverse Mortgage Scams:

    Do not respond to unsolicited advertisements.
    Be suspicious of anyone claiming that you can own a home with no down payment.
    Do not sign anything that you do not fully understand.
    Do not accept payment from individuals for a home you did not purchase.
    Seek out your own reverse mortgage counselor.

    If you are a victim of this type of fraud and want to file a complaint, please submit information through our electronic tip line or through your local FBI office. You may also file a complaint with HUD-OIG at Homepage | Office of Inspector General, Department of Housing and Urban Development or by calling HUD’s hotline at 1-800-347-3735.

    FBI — Seniors

    You can read the send out cards reviews on Yelp. There are also quite a few is this a scam videos.

    Send Out Cards - Salt Lake City, UT | Yelp

    This guy screen shoots the earnings statement. Looks like so many other programs where recruiting is the goal.
    Send Out Cards: You’ve Been Had!

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    Re: Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?

    Excellent posts! So many scammers out there. Such shameless MLM Gurus. It never ceases to amaze me how far and for how long these guys keep plugging!
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    Re: Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?

    Quote Originally Posted by ribshaw View Post
    SEND OUT CARDS....

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    This is an aside, completely unrelated, but it sure would be nice to know the terms being made on the reverse mortgages. This is an area rife with bad deals for seniors. So much so that the FBI has a warning about it. In fairness Al could be making these loans on great terms, just don't know.

    Reverse Mortgage Scams

    The FBI and the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development Office of Inspector General (HUD-OIG) urge consumers, especially senior citizens, to be vigilant when seeking reverse mortgage products. Reverse mortgages, also known as home equity conversion mortgages (HECM), have increased more than 1,300 percent between 1999 and 2008, creating significant opportunities for fraud perpetrators.

    Reverse mortgage scams are engineered by unscrupulous professionals in a multitude of real estate, financial services, and related companies to steal the equity from the property of unsuspecting senior citizens or to use these seniors to unwittingly aid the fraudsters in stealing equity from a flipped property.

    In many of the reported scams, victim seniors are offered free homes, investment opportunities, and foreclosure or refinance assistance. They are also used as straw buyers in property flipping scams. Seniors are frequently targeted through local churches and investment seminars, as well as television, radio, billboard, and mailer advertisements.

    A legitimate HECM loan product is insured by the Federal Housing Authority. It enables eligible homeowners to access the equity in their homes by providing funds without incurring a monthly payment. Eligible borrowers must be 62 years or older who occupy their property as their primary residence and who own their property or have a small mortgage balance. See the FBI/HUD Intelligence Bulletin for specific details on HECMs as well as other foreclosure rescue and investment schemes.

    Tips for Avoiding Reverse Mortgage Scams:

    Do not respond to unsolicited advertisements.
    Be suspicious of anyone claiming that you can own a home with no down payment.
    Do not sign anything that you do not fully understand.
    Do not accept payment from individuals for a home you did not purchase.
    Seek out your own reverse mortgage counselor.

    If you are a victim of this type of fraud and want to file a complaint, please submit information through our electronic tip line or through your local FBI office. You may also file a complaint with HUD-OIG at Homepage | Office of Inspector General, Department of Housing and Urban Development or by calling HUD’s hotline at 1-800-347-3735.

    FBI — Seniors

    You can read the send out cards reviews on Yelp. There are also quite a few is this a scam videos.

    Send Out Cards - Salt Lake City, UT | Yelp

    This guy screen shoots the earnings statement. Looks like so many other programs where recruiting is the goal.
    Send Out Cards: You’ve Been Had!

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    You failed to mention the failure of My Harvest America. He really knows how to pick 'em.

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    SCAM? “Due to circumstances beyond our control, My Harvest America, Inc. has been forced to file for protection under Chapter 7 Bankruptcy. Further information for claims will be forthcoming from the US Bankruptcy Court, May 27, 2011. Case # 2:11-bk-15482″. That is the message My Harvest America Inc. posted on their website.

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    Re: Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?

    Are you sure there isn't an "h" in his last name?

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    Re: Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?

    I don't understand. I quoted you and searched My Harvest America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whip View Post
    You failed to mention the failure of My Harvest America. He really knows how to pick 'em.
    LOL, with so many great opportunities...

    Both of the links are broken, there was something called Experience the Peak, which may have been related to Send Out Cards he was promoting.

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    Re: Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTooMuchTime View Post
    Are you sure there isn't an "h" in his last name?
    H-is for the Hit your wallet takes. If a HYIP forum labels something a scam, pretty sure it is not "Like Facebook".

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    Re: Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?

    Alan Sils has all his fingers in so many pies(scams!) he must be absolutely rolling in it. And yet...he lives in an RV. WHY? It makes it REAL hard for the authorities to trace him.
    Well done Ribshaw for starting this thread! This weasel needs showing up for what he is, a grubby little scammer!

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    Re: Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?

    Alan is in an RV in Colorado in the winter cause most of these scams are impossible to get your $ out.
    Finding suckers is 1/2 the battle. Getting $ out of a ponzi is the other 1/2.

    Send Out Cards. I agree w/all the above statements.
    BUT
    I have a friend in my home town who is making $30k-50k yearly.
    He has earned it by selling it business to business to Doctors, Dentists, etc
    Doesnt do the MLM part.
    He has his wife/brother etc as reps below only to max out his $.

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    Re: Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?





    Just in case anyone is in any doubt Alan Sills remains as crooked as a dogs' hind leg.
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    Re: Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?

    What a clown...how is that $5000 per month he was eying by Dec 2013 going?

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    Re: Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?

    You can follow Alan as he travels across America in his RV!

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    Re: Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?

    500 Connections & only 1 recommendation:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat City, LA View Post

    Send Out Cards. I agree w/all the above statements.
    BUT
    I have a friend in my home town who is making $30k-50k yearly.
    He has earned it by selling it business to business to Doctors, Dentists, etc
    Doesnt do the MLM part.
    He has his wife/brother etc as reps below only to max out his $.
    So far, SOC is the only program in this thread that has not completely turned to crap. If this, like many of these deals were pitched as "you are going to hit the pavement and sell stuff" there would be a lot less skepticism on my part. Then if people wanted to go sell $30 milkshakes and $50 juice, they could have at it and know what they are in for. $30,000 to $50,000 is a solid income for full time work. But, its not exactly put your feet up and live here on a residual income type cash.

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    I agree with you on that part based on my reading of SOC, as not to seem like I am arguing on that point I made the line below. It should be a stand alone post, but its late and mixed a few thoughts. With AL, it is not just the opportunity, but the way he seems to do "business".

    Al Sills has bunch of videos on SOC, in fairness people could watch them and see the way he presents it.

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    In Al's advertisement above he represents the buy in for SOC as $1,000, that is one hell of an ante just to beat the pavement! Maybe Al is snowshoeing it around town closing deals on greeting cards, having choked down more than a few of Al's videos I don't see that. Looking at his BB Tripe above, $5,000 a month seems to fall from the sky. Now however, some of his comments surrounding Banners Brokers he almost blames the people who lost money in this scam. I think he is now calling it a "venture", which is a far cry from his previous shtick. All I have seen is someone who wants referral commissions and to hear himself talk. He does not seem to care if he is pushing Ponzi Schemes, fabricated banks, Forex schemes, as long a the commission roll in.

    This was on his Facebook page just the other day, despite all the problems we know about Banners Broker:

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    Here is his video on BM. He like many in the pimp trade seem not to know what "slander" means. His tone to the commenter aside, if he is such a wizard of business, why is he not 100% sure this is not a Ponzi. (As a note, there are a few comments that were deleted by Al that were a little more probing) He is in touch with Chris Smith, is a master beta tester for the next version. Why as a business person has he not asked Chris to produce audited financial statements? Just seems to take the Gomer Pyle approach, sign up, and if you lose, well golly it was a venture.



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    Poor ol' Alan Sills is still living in the past when threats like this had some effect.

    Can you imagine the high excitement there would be in the ranks of those who speak out against fraud if someone like Alan Sills or Chris Smith was actually foolish enough to follow through with the threats ???

    The courts would be forced to hire Madison Square Garden to accommodate the number of media representatives who would fly in from around the world to see the inner workings of a fraud like Banners Broker explained in court.
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    Re: Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?

    "So far, SOC is the only program in this thread that has not completely turned to crap."


    If your a dentist a $500 commit on cards can get you that $1k plus root canal.etc
    Last comment on that.

    Doubt he is selling hard of anything. Why be so petty & non reasonable in his postings? (BB doesnt pay, he is not of non normal intellect, face the truth)

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    So as I lay in bed last night, I realized I had forget all about a Gmail account that had not been banned by Al Sills. I thought it would be good to pose a few questions to him again. I want to set this up just a bit in my purpose of writing this thread, other than good fun and hearing the clack of the computer keys. If one were to buy any business, two very real documents to ask for would be tax returns and financial statements. Anyone who is asking you to invest, should willingly comply. (That is my opinion, other people may hear so and so is a good guy and write a check)

    People like Alan Sills will come and go, but the methods for keeping your money out of harms way will always remain the same.

    This has been asked previously, but where are the 1099s and tax filings from BB? Keeping in mind Alan Sills in one of his videos claims to have something like $300,000 in his account. Under US Tax law(and numerous other jurisdictions) this is fully taxable as earnings, even if it is left in the account. He PROUDLY made a video about it, where is the difficultly with providing proof of not only the earnings, but that he reported them to the IRS? Many "gurus" often talk about doing deals, but when it comes to producing proof they slither away.

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    Here is my question about audited financial statements. I had asked before, and all comments were banished to hater hell by Pollyala Sills.

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    Re: Alan Sills, Alansills.com. Knowlegeable business builder, or dangerous to your wallet?

    Wanted to build on something I said yesterday. This may or may not be useful to a random reader of this blog about Alan Sills, Alan@alansills.com , Sills leadership, or whatever other names the man uses to pimp schemes. Taking a circuitous as I am apt to do, I am a big fan of American Greed on CNBC CNBC's American Greed: Scams, Schemes, and Broken Dreams, and really all things scam. A common set up is a person rolls in to town, seems to print money, everyone is happy, and poof one day it turns out to be scam. Or you have a sterling member of the community, think Madoff and poof one day same ending.

    Yesterday I mentioned Tax returns and financial statements. If you are conducting true due diligence, the documents need to come from the source. For tax returns Form 4506 allows you to request a tax return be sent directly from the IRS. (Of course the person has to sign off) If you have done a mortgage, especially post 2009 this is what a many banks do. That way you get to see what the person actually filed. Most people will not exaggerate income to the IRS, unless they are laundering money.

    The second thing is account statements MUST come DIRECTLY from an independent source. To be clear, if someone says they have $300,000 in an account, a screen shot or a document they give you does not suffice. It does not matter if someone is managing money or running a pretendy advertising platform. The point should be obvious, but that is the reference to American Greed. In almost all of the scams, the adviser/guru was producing their own statements.


    Both of these guys have books with a little more information on how to suss out the details of an opportunity. I am pretty sure that not many who have read ether is not making videos on line promoting Ponzi schemes, or doing a cameo on American Greed.

    Ken Fisher How to Smell a Rat: The Five Signs of Financial Fraud (Fisher Investments Series): Kenneth L. Fisher, Lara Hoffmans: 9780470631966: Amazon.com: Books
    And Lynn Edginton Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun: Cyber Crime - How They Do It: Mr. Lynn Edgington, Mr. Graham McMillan, Mr. Les Henderson, Mr. Paul Schlegel: 9781453895290: Amazon.com: Books
    "It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff
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