Thread: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

Originally Posted by laidback

In looking at the documents that Don so diligently gathers, this one is somewhat bizarre to me: The document from Synovus Bank saying they had stopped payment on $86000 worth of Cashiers checks. Doesn't that fly in the face of the purpose and security of a cashiers check? Also, I wonder how many of those were 'new' suckers as opposed to people that had already 'profited'...!

The bank actually did a booboo. They claim they were not informed for 3 days. The receivership took effect on 17th, they only got the word on the 20th. Duing those 3 days 86K worth of cashier's check were cancelled by the bank and refunded to the purchasers, even though those funds were in transit and is technically part of receiver's estate. So they want a decision from the judge: what do we do now, since we didn't know? Do we have to pay the receiver those 86K?

I guess the question here is... are the purchasers Synovus bank account holders? Can the bank institute a "clawback" (ironic use of the term) citing court order and deduct money from their account holders? Or do they just have to eat the loss? Or will the judge give them a discount, like "give reciever 50% of that 86K and you have to eat the remainder at a loss as penance"?

Originally Posted by Gregg

That whole "rebuttal" just makes me want to open the window and see if my computer can fly.

Gregg, people who wrote that "rebuttal" have NO understanding of the law and has their own narrative to fit the events. They are NOT receptive to "reality". They consider that "negativity". It's very cultish, and it's how they operate. Nobody outside of the group has "the truth as we know it", blah blah blah. Cult of Zeek, has a ring to it. Maybe we can get Steven Hassan to make a comment.

EDIT: Any one want to help his group get a file opened on "Cult of Zeek"? Fill in form here:

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Rumor mill is running rampant among Zeekheads. Wonder if someone's doing a disinformation campaign, to keep the masses distracted and pliable, instead of uniting against the evildoers?

Nash Dunn strikes again! (The Dispatch newspaper of Lexington NC) He wrote a nice piece on history of Paul Burks and his various "businesses".

Former Zeek Rewards CEO Paul Burks has ties to politics | GoUpstate.com

Originally Posted by kschang

Rumor mill is running rampant among Zeekheads. Wonder if someone's doing a disinformation campaign, to keep the masses distracted and pliable, instead of uniting against the evildoers?

Oh, you can bank on that happening.

It's the pimps, shills and promoters' livelihood we're talking about here.

The whole next generation of HYIP ponzi players is in among the Zeeklers.

The one thing the HYIP "industry" cannot afford to happen is for the bulk of the Zeek membership to wake up to what really happened.

There'll be no time off for the pimps, shills and promoters until after the criminal case/s are completed.

Even then, they'll still be out there pushing as hard as they can to ensure "someone else" other than the HYIP ponzi "industry" gets the blame.

Side Project: any one want to start compiling "Dooly's Follies", i.e. everything he got wrong about Zeek?

Originally Posted by kschang

Side Project: any one want to start compiling "Dooly's Follies", i.e. everything he got wrong about Zeek?

No doubt he's created a few "internet gospels" about things that he either flat pulled out his ass or passed along.

An "internet gospel" is a big lie that has been repeated enough that however ridiculous it is, it's accepted as an undisputed fact and often cited as the basis for a particular string of improbabilities that are just nuts. A perfect example is from the ASD case, where someone said the SEC had actually admitted they were wrong but had to file something so they wouldn't lose face.
I have seen several times in the last few days that the North Carolina AG had declared Zeek Rewards legal just a few days or weeks prior to closing them down. It's not true and plenty of places can be found that show it's not true, but people believe it because it supports their delusions. Amazing how stupid greed can make you.
Another one is the "it was not an investment, we were told several times it was not an investment". It doesn't matter what you call it, a lot of things that are not from a legal point of view not investments are called investments and no one is suggesting we shut down all the colleges in the country because they often say education isan investment in the future. If you send money somewhere and expect more back, for the most part it's an investment. If you accept payments from people who want more than they sent you to be sent back to them, you cannot use the money people are such sending to you to make payments to them. In the instant case, if Zeek had divided up the 2% of their revenue that wasn't affiliate money they at least wouldn't have been a ponzi scheme (they'd still be unregistered securities among other things) but I really doubt the business would have grown very much had it taken years to recoup your initial deposits (like most real businesses by the way)
If the affiliates understood that single concept, and the pimps could be duct taped to a chair in the closet so they couldn't teach them stupid internet gospels, a good deal of the controversy would not exist. The problem is twofold, first, the lies being told tend to make people hope they're true and the pimps are telling them with some false authority. Because he's telling them they might still get back on the gravy train, a lot of weak minded people still consider Troy a real expert. Troy is not an expert in anything, and that's the real truth. He's some degree of shill or another, if he's not getting direct payments from any of the companies he reports on, he still has an income stream that is related to him being a soothing voice in a sea of screaming loonies. His only credibility is an illusion of being neutral and he by words an actions makes himself an expert because people looking for that authority to ease their minds are not much better at picking an expert than they are at picking investments.
A true expert almost panics the foolish. Look at any Iraqi Dinar Forum, they'll deride a roomful real economists as being notoriously inept and then the next thread they'll talk about how wise Adam Montana (real name James Wolf, a purported HS dropout) is. The only experts they give any credibility to are spouting patent nonsense about how Iraq is the wealthiest nation in the world and their currency should reflect that....which is literally the same as saying the richest people in New York are the guys on the street corners and washbuckets. I mean really, do you know how many cars are in Manhatten? Those guys have the best business in the world! The investment bankers on Wall Street don't even drive cars of their own, they ride around in limousines but they don't tell you that limo is a rental.

Ron White said it, you can't fix stupid, and I'd add that stupid and greedy are damn near invincible.

Originally Posted by kschang

Side Project: any one want to start compiling "Dooly's Follies", i.e. everything he got wrong about Zeek?

The list of every thing he got right would be shorter and quicker!!!

Originally Posted by laidback

The list of every thing he got right would be shorter and quicker!!!

We should read that virtually non-existent, right?

The latest Zeek Samadhi Couscous update is out:

Zeek Update and Plan B Company

From:Dave Kettner <zeeksamurai@gmail.com>
To:xxxxxxxx@yyyy.zzz
Date:Fri, 31 Aug 2012 9:19 PM (9 hours 55 minutes ago)

Hello Zeek Samurai Kazoku!


I hope this finds you all doing well. I wanted to give you a heads up on what is new with Zeek news and the fight against the SEC.

Robert Craddock will have a website up in the next few days that will allow every Zeek Rewards affiliate that has donated to the law firm fight to enter their details that they my have missed when making their donation so the law firm will have all the data they need. Also, to clarify any rumors that are going around the Internet, yes, if you make a donation to Fun Club USA, you are a plaintiff in the lawsuit and in the group protected by SNR Denton. You do not need and should not contact the law firm directly. Contacting the law firm will result in more billable hours charged and hinder the work that they are trying to do on our behalf to get our company back.


Robert has been working with the attorneys to get all of our ducks in order as well as getting all of our list of affiliates information in place. We are expecting a press release to be coming soon, but do understand that these things do take time.

We will continue to provide you updates regarding how things are moving forward with our Zeek fight. If you have not already supported the fight, you can do so at Zeek Rewards Affiliates united against what is believed to be Unlawful action by the SEC » Let. You can email your questions directly to zeeklegal@gmail.com and please participate in the great discussions that are taking place on our Zeek Affiliates United Against the SEC here Zeek Rewards Affiliates United Against The SEC | Facebook.

On another note, we have been asked by many of our teams to begin building our plan b company so we can all focus our collaborative efforts on generating another source of income. Many people on our teams were relying on their profits that were either being paid or were going to be paid soon. Therefore many people are now looking for another stream of income and some are in serious need to have it happen fast.

So Mary and I got with our leaders and decided on what we felt was the best option to begin building. We decided on a solid company that has been around almost 10 years, a 3.3 billion dollar company, has open books with a 3rd party CPA, is based overseas outside of the US, is not a penny auction business, and is free to join without any monthly fees or any autoships. The best part is that you utilize your own shopping that you are already doing to make this program work for you plus you get cash back on every purchase.

If you would like to learn more, I encourage you to contact your upline to get more information about this new program and how we are moving our teams over to this new business. We are a team that honors the line of sponsorship from Zeek and will give those lines of sponsorship the first chance to decide whether or not they would like to work with us on this new venture. If your upline does not want to work with us, then we would speak to you directly. Have your leaders email us for more information.

That is it for now...I hope everyone has an awesome Labor Day weekend and enjoy the last official weekend of summer!

God Bless,

Dave Kettner



Please find below an update directly from Robert Craddock:

As everyone knows, Zeek Rewards is under the control of Kenneth D.
Bell of McGuire Woods LLP as temporary receiver of ZeekRewards for the
purposes of marshaling and preserving all assets of ZeekRewards and
those assets (a) held or possessed by ZeekRewards; (b) held in
constructive trust for ZeekRewards; and (c) fraudulently transferred
by ZeekRewards.

For this reason the leaders of Zeek Rewards (your up line leaders) are
working to correct this issue. The leaders have come together and are
in the process of obtaining a law firm to represent all of us that
join the protected group. You simple action of going to
Zeek Rewards Affiliates united against what is believed to be Unlawful action by the SEC » Let and donating anything from $20 dollars to $100
dollars will allow us to hire one of the best if not the best firm in
the country to protect us.

Our goals are simple, first protect everyone one of us by first
proving that Zeek was not a ponzi scheme, second by assisting Paul
Burks to re-open Zeek Rewards allowing all of us to continue making
money. And last to prevent the government from keeping all the money
that we used to purchase bids with and the money we have received or
is pending in one of the e-wallets.

We feel our chances are good and expect to restore Zeek to a position
better than it was before.

There will be an additional link coming up on Zeek Rewards Affiliates united against what is believed to be Unlawful action by the SEC » Let
for latest news and updates we will be keeping everyone informed at
this location.


If you can spread the word as we are putting together a dream team of
attorneys, accountants and PR firms to assist in correcting the damage
the government has caused and restoring our income.

Sincerely,

Zeek Affiliates Legal Team

Compare this statement from above:

Also, to clarify any rumors that are going around the Internet, yes, if you make a donation to Fun Club USA, you are a plaintiff in the lawsuit and in the group protected by SNR Denton.

With this statement from the z team biz website:

SNR Denton US LLP represents Fun Club USA and all inquiries about this representation should be directed to Fun Club USA at zeeklegal@gmail.com. SNR Denton’s legal representation is limited to Fun Club USA; SNR Denton does not represent and does not have an attorney-client relationship with affiliates of Zeek, Zeek Rewards, Rex Venture Group LLC or with any individual or party that chooses to provide funds to Fun Club USA.

They contradict themselves but the second one is correct.

Anyone want to put money on the identity of the "plan B" company? I'd put a few bucks on it being Lyoness, after all with Dr. Keith Laggos is pushing it we know it has to be legal.

MoneyMaker Group HYIP ponzi forum

Starting a new folder: Caldwell and Craddock's greatest hits in "Other" as not to clutter this topic with non-Zeek stuff.

Anything relating to Caldwell and Craddock, but not about Zeek, should go there. We can analyze a 'reputation manager' at work.

http://www.realscam.com/f16/caldwell...est-hits-1555/

I have written SNR Denton asking them to clarify this....

Greggory Brian Evans


September 1, 2012
Gene R. Besen
Partner
SNR Denton
2000 McKinney Avenue
Suite 1900
Dallas, TX 75201-1858
Dear Mr. Besen:

I am an online journalist researching matters related to Rex Venture Group and Zeek Rewards and their current troubles with among others, the Securities and Exchange Commission.
As you are aware, a group of Zeek Rewards affiliates have apparently retained you as their attorney in regards to this case. My question is, I would like some clarification on exactly who you represent. A Mr. Robert Craddock has been saying that you have been retained on behalf of all affiliates who contribute to this effort through a website he has set up to accept contributions. In a letter to potential donors dated today, Mr. Craddock states

“Also, to clarify any rumors that are going around the Internet, yes, if you make a donation to Fun Club USA, you are a plaintiff in the lawsuit and in the group protected by SNR Denton. “

I find this statement hard to believe, as in this case the court appointed receiver has indicated he intends to pursue clawbacks of ill gotten gains and while Mr. Craddock and the members of his group are net winners in this scheme and the people from whom he is soliciting donations are very likely net losers. If your representation goals are to protect your clients from clawback actions, those interests would be in direct conflict of those who would benefit from the receiver maximizing the amounts he recovers from ill gotten profits.
All the communications I have found in regards to this eventually point to Fun Club USA, a site and company controlled by Mr. Craddock. They have the site set up to collect donations for their legal fund, with a disclaimer I am guessing your firm has insisted upon.
More in line with what I expect is the statement that Fun Club USA has on their website, to wit:

“SNR Denton US LLP represents Fun Club USA and all inquiries about this representation should be directed to Fun Club USA at zeeklegal@gmail.com. SNR Denton’s legal representation is limited to Fun Club USA; SNR Denton does not represent and does not have an attorney-client relationship with affiliates of Zeek, Zeek Rewards, Rex Venture Group LLC or with any individual or party that chooses to provide funds to Fun Club USA.”

As a writer covering a story I’d like some clarification on just exactly who you and your firm represent. As a concerned citizen, I’d like to ask you to clarify to your client the same question and urge them to not confuse the issue.
I realize I’m not exactly The New York Times but I still think it would be in everyone’s interest that you and your clients clarified these issues. I intend to cover it and I’m sure other, more mainstream publications will, too.


Sincerely,
Greggory Brian Evans, PhD

Only have a minute, but the Secret Service has frozen more Zeek money. Read Patrick Pretty for the story.

Originally Posted by kschang

Can the bank institute a "clawback" (ironic use of the term) citing court order and deduct money from their account holders?

In previous ponzi cases, that's exactly what has happened, so, it's not a matter of "if" it's a matter of "when"

It has to be that way, otherwise it would give "insiders" an unfair advantage.

The court order comes in to effect when it's entered, not when people hear about it.

Originally Posted by Gregg

I have written SNR Denton asking them to clarify this....

Greggory Brian Evans


September 1, 2012
Gene R. Besen
Partner
SNR Denton
2000 McKinney Avenue
Suite 1900
Dallas, TX 75201-1858
Dear Mr. Besen:

I am an online journalist researching matters related to Rex Venture Group and Zeek Rewards and their current troubles with among others, the Securities and Exchange Commission.
As you are aware, a group of Zeek Rewards affiliates have apparently retained you as their attorney in regards to this case. My question is, I would like some clarification on exactly who you represent. A Mr. Robert Craddock has been saying that you have been retained on behalf of all affiliates who contribute to this effort through a website he has set up to accept contributions. In a letter to potential donors dated today, Mr. Craddock states

“Also, to clarify any rumors that are going around the Internet, yes, if you make a donation to Fun Club USA, you are a plaintiff in the lawsuit and in the group protected by SNR Denton. “

I find this statement hard to believe, as in this case the court appointed receiver has indicated he intends to pursue clawbacks of ill gotten gains and while Mr. Craddock and the members of his group are net winners in this scheme and the people from whom he is soliciting donations are very likely net losers. If your representation goals are to protect your clients from clawback actions, those interests would be in direct conflict of those who would benefit from the receiver maximizing the amounts he recovers from ill gotten profits.
All the communications I have found in regards to this eventually point to Fun Club USA, a site and company controlled by Mr. Craddock. They have the site set up to collect donations for their legal fund, with a disclaimer I am guessing your firm has insisted upon.
More in line with what I expect is the statement that Fun Club USA has on their website, to wit:

“SNR Denton US LLP represents Fun Club USA and all inquiries about this representation should be directed to Fun Club USA at zeeklegal@gmail.com. SNR Denton’s legal representation is limited to Fun Club USA; SNR Denton does not represent and does not have an attorney-client relationship with affiliates of Zeek, Zeek Rewards, Rex Venture Group LLC or with any individual or party that chooses to provide funds to Fun Club USA.”

As a writer covering a story I’d like some clarification on just exactly who you and your firm represent. As a concerned citizen, I’d like to ask you to clarify to your client the same question and urge them to not confuse the issue.
I realize I’m not exactly The New York Times but I still think it would be in everyone’s interest that you and your clients clarified these issues. I intend to cover it and I’m sure other, more mainstream publications will, too.


Sincerely,
Greggory Brian Evans, PhD

"Great letter and looking foward to their reply.

I got a reply from Troy Dooley this morning that just sent me over the bend. I wrote what is, even for my own little arrogant sarcastic self a blistering reply. I should have copied it before I sent it along, I'm curious to see if he allows it.

I have to give credit where it's due, so I'd like to say that I'm carrying on a dialogue of sorts with Troy Dooly on his webiste and while I do not agree with his positions at all, the man has been more than fair with me after I had some pretty harsh comments about him on his site. Comments he could have just ignored and not published but that he chose to not only allow but to address them with good faith arguments of his own. We have vastly different points of view but I have come in the last 24 hours to have a lot of respect for his character.
I'm much more accustomed to being banned from sites like his, an admin who is willing to enage with arguments that they believe in is a refreshing change.

GBE

Apparently state of Maine warned its citizens that some leftover Zeek charges may continue to hit various Zeek credit cards.

See PatrickPretty.com for citings.

In other news of post-Zeek land... Todd Hirsch, Bidify affiliate, claimed Troy Dooly is heading to the slammer for being a part of Zeek conspiracy. :D Video was pulled after a few days.

Yea well, when the company your sending money to needs you to disable fraud protection on your credit card sometimes bad stuff happens.

I think Troy made a mistake by giving a low rent serial scammer like Todd Hirsch free publicity but since he has the least I can do is link to Todd's most recent little cycling matrix scam.

Finally found it:

http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=867221&postcount=794

This is a great question, and I actually address this in a video I just did on XLER8.

Twice in 2009 I did not follow my own benchmarks, and guidelines due to personal relationships. Once was with Global Verge, the other was XLER8.

In both cases instead fo sticking with facts, I allowed my personal relationships with friends in those companies determine how we reported.

With Global Verge, I revered the category and gave them a chance to change, based on friends asking for me to let up.

I take full responsibility for this action, and within two weeks realized the corporate leadership had not changed, and came to the conclusion that those I called friends, may very well be involved in the overall culture that has been created.

When XLER8 left the MLM arena this week and left 6400 reps scrambling, I realized I had once again allowed friendships to interfere with the facts.

The quarterly report published in November was very clear, if the field did not increase sales of the product, instead of just recruiting new people to fill the void of those leaving, the company would have to focus on different marketing channels.

I read it, and did not report. I was a true wake up call for me to realize, friendships are great, but facts must be delivered even if it means friendships may be stretched.

No excuses the buck stops with me. I should never have reversed my stance, and since that time we have continued to focus and gather information on Global Verge.

I understand in most cases the Scam family and the MLMHelpDesk family do not see MLM in the same light. However, there are some good companies.

I want to thank you here at Scam for allowing me to post from time to time, and for accepting me as a guest to this community.

Hope this clears things up.

And... I promise I will not listen to my upline :)

Living An Epic Adventure,

Troy
__________________
Never Give Up,

Troy Dooly
MLMHelpDesk.com

2 years later....same old, same old.

http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=120023&page=27

Originally Posted by Whip

Finally found it:

http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=867221&postcount=794



2 years later....same old, same old.

http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=120023&page=27

But, but, but it's different this time. Honestly.

Readers can view the original release on the Securities and Exchange Commission website

ZeekRewards Investors

On August 17, 2012, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed a complaint in the United States District Court for the Western District of North Carolina alleging that Rex Venture Group LLC d/b/a Zeekrewards.com and its principal, Paul R. Burks, conducted a fraudulent Ponzi scheme that raised $600 million from approximately one million investors. The District Court has appointed a receiver to handle potential claims from injured investors.

The Receiver has established the following website as his primary means of communicating with investors:

ZeekRewards Receivership Website

The Receiver may also be contacted (email only) at:info@zeekrewardsreceivership.com

Please monitor the Receiver’s website for updates concerning the claims process and for updates regarding the status of your claim.
Although the SEC is not handling claims, you may also wish to monitor the SEC’s website, www.sec.gov, for any updates on the status of its complaint.

A copy of the SEC’s press release and accompanying complaint is available at http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2012/2012-160.htm.

Information regarding Ponzi schemes, including frequently asked questions, is available on the SEC’s website at:
http://www.sec.gov/answers/ponzi.htm and http://www.sec.gov/spotlight/enf-actions-ponzi.shtml

Originally Posted by Gregg

I have written SNR Denton asking them to clarify this....

Greggory Brian Evans


September 1, 2012
Gene R. Besen
Partner
SNR Denton
2000 McKinney Avenue
Suite 1900
Dallas, TX 75201-1858
Dear Mr. Besen:

I am an online journalist researching matters related to Rex Venture Group and Zeek Rewards and their current troubles with among others, the Securities and Exchange Commission.
As you are aware, a group of Zeek Rewards affiliates have apparently retained you as their attorney in regards to this case. My question is, I would like some clarification on exactly who you represent. A Mr. Robert Craddock has been saying that you have been retained on behalf of all affiliates who contribute to this effort through a website he has set up to accept contributions. In a letter to potential donors dated today, Mr. Craddock states

“Also, to clarify any rumors that are going around the Internet, yes, if you make a donation to Fun Club USA, you are a plaintiff in the lawsuit and in the group protected by SNR Denton. “

I find this statement hard to believe, as in this case the court appointed receiver has indicated he intends to pursue clawbacks of ill gotten gains and while Mr. Craddock and the members of his group are net winners in this scheme and the people from whom he is soliciting donations are very likely net losers. If your representation goals are to protect your clients from clawback actions, those interests would be in direct conflict of those who would benefit from the receiver maximizing the amounts he recovers from ill gotten profits.
All the communications I have found in regards to this eventually point to Fun Club USA, a site and company controlled by Mr. Craddock. They have the site set up to collect donations for their legal fund, with a disclaimer I am guessing your firm has insisted upon.
More in line with what I expect is the statement that Fun Club USA has on their website, to wit:

“SNR Denton US LLP represents Fun Club USA and all inquiries about this representation should be directed to Fun Club USA at zeeklegal@gmail.com. SNR Denton’s legal representation is limited to Fun Club USA; SNR Denton does not represent and does not have an attorney-client relationship with affiliates of Zeek, Zeek Rewards, Rex Venture Group LLC or with any individual or party that chooses to provide funds to Fun Club USA.”

As a writer covering a story I’d like some clarification on just exactly who you and your firm represent. As a concerned citizen, I’d like to ask you to clarify to your client the same question and urge them to not confuse the issue.
I realize I’m not exactly The New York Times but I still think it would be in everyone’s interest that you and your clients clarified these issues. I intend to cover it and I’m sure other, more mainstream publications will, too.


Sincerely,
Greggory Brian Evans, PhD

My money on no reply or a reply that says they got no idea who this fun club is and that they don't represent anyone in relation to the zeek case...