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    The funny thing is, of the two guys that I know who were in Zeek, one is Jewish (I'll call him BB). He got the other guy, who's a Christian, into Zeek (I'll call him GG).

    I actually told GG that Paul Burks is a scammer, and sent him a link to this thread, directly to GlimDropper's excellent post about Paul Burks' stellar history (page 4, post #77).

    GG's response? "Paul burke is a christian man i met h im" (spelling errors intact from original).

    Well then... I guess that settles it! Not! *facepalm*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marley View Post

    GG's response? "Paul burke is a christian man i met h im" (spelling errors intact from original).
    You've got to be able to speak fluent ponzispeak to realize your friend is telling the truth.

    Not the whole truth, but, the truth, just the same.

    Here's the same sentence in realspeak: "Paul burke is a christian man who ran a fraudulent operation which turned over at least $600 million and left thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of people out of pocket i met h im"

    See ???
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Ho Boy, Kettner's lips are moving again. How can I tell? He's lying:

    Hey Zeek Samurai Kazoku,

    We just got off the phone with Robert Craddock in response to news going on around the Internet of rumors and other misrepresentations of the truth. So here is what we found out directly from Robert...

    On Monday, August 27, the retainer was sent directly to SNR Denton to represent ALL Zeek Rewards affiliates who donated and joined the protected group through Fun Club USA, LLC. It was announced many times to not contact SNR Denton directly as they were going to work directly through Robert Craddock and the group can have all questions answered directly by Robert. What happened was people did not listen. SNR Denton begin getting tons of calls from across the globe with people asking them questions that they could not answer and disrupted not only the progress of our legal filing that they were trying to do, but also interfered with their entire law firm operations.


    Due to this, SNR Denton told Robert on Friday, August 31 that they would no longer be able to represent us and sent back the retainer funds to Robert. They did however share a few law firms that they believed would be successful in representing us and Robert this past week has been able to retain another powerful law firm moving forward and has already made significant progress this week. Due to what happened with SNR Denton since people do not listen, the name of this law firm and our representing attorneys will not be announced until the filings are done early next week. At this time, the court filings will be made public.

    Again, we ask that when the law firm is announced, DO NOT CONTACT them! If you want things to proceed, then take a step back and let them proceed. People that want more information delay the work that is happening including sending Robert, myself and other emails, calls and Skype messags asking us how are things going with the Zeek fight. Please people, trust in the fact that as we know things, we will announce them. Please be patient and know that if you do these things that we are asking you not to do, all you are doing is hindering the operation. If you want to help, then spread the word of the fight, spread the word of how you can help, and pray for the best and for justice to prevail.

    Here is the great news...The law firm has already talked to the SEC and the NC DOJ. On Thursday, Robert got a call from one of our attorneys regarding the conversation that he had with the SEC. Here is what he said:

    The SEC acknowledged that there are a couple of problems with the case against Zeek Rewards and Rex Venture group. Here are the problems:

    1. We (the SEC) are not able to find a victim in this case. We are not able to find anybody at this time that has been harmed by Zeek Rewards.
    2. We (the SEC) are having a hard time finding a security. In the complaint, it said that Zeek was selling securities and was an investment scheme.

    Based on their (the SEC) new knowledge of the Zeek Rewards business model, they are having a hard time moving forward in making their case. And they are now looking for a path or way to back out of this.

    What are attorneys will be doing next week is filing a motion of appearance that they are now representing Fun Club USA, LLC. and the people that are now associated with them (the protected group). The receiver, Kenneth Bell, has now also realized that 2/3 of the Zeek Rewards affiliates are international which makes for the use of federal clawback laws being used to recover more funds impossible as they cannot collect them from the international affiliates and would not hold the 1/3 of US affiliates liable for the entire company.

    You may have noticed that on the site, Zeek Rewards Affiliates united against what is believed to be Unlawful action by the SEC » Let and zteambiz.net had to pull down the PayPal donation button. This had to be done because PayPal found out that we were working to defend Zeek Rewards and since PayPal had to stop working with Zeek in the past due to the fact that Zeek is an MLM and PayPal does not work with MLM's, they decided that they could no longer work with Fun Club USA, LLC. either. So, if there is anyone that has made a donation to Fun Club USA, LLC for their donation to the legal fight against the SEC and needs a refund for any reason, you can request that through Robert directly by sending an email to zeeklegal@gmail.com. If more donations are needed for the law firm, these directions will be forthcoming. Please realize that all funds that have been received have been sent directly to the law firm and more news will be announced next week as the filings are made with the courts.

    In the conversation with the SEC, our attorney's have already put forth the direction with moving forward with what they are calling "Zeek Rewards 2.0". They already have decided on another law firm where our attorneys would write an opinion letter which is something we have been told should have been done a long time ago with Zeek and had not been done. What this opinion letter will do is go to all regulatory agencies which will put them all on notice as to how this business, "Zeek Rewards 2.0" operates. Furthermore, if there should ever happen in the future like what happened with the SEC emergency injunction against Zeek, there will be a process that will have to be done first where they would have to go through a series of steps going through the law firm first that fully understands the business model. In other words, what happened to Zeek Rewards on August 16 which was a major mistake by the SEC, will never happen again.

    It has also been our goal to fight the SEC allegations to prove that what they accused Zeek and Rex Venture to be false, and then to get Zeek Rewards back into operation. The SEC, since we have basically called them out to prove their allegations and put their feet to the fire, they now have to own up to this HUGE mistake on their part. They can no longer sweep this mistake under the carpet and are now going to be forced to assist us in getting our business back up and running more then likely stronger then ever. The SEC were the ones that actually have recommended how to set up the opinion letter with the law firm that they recommended to be sure that the new Zeek is protected from this ever happening mistakenly again.

    Ok, well that is a wealth of information...Please be sure to share this news with everyone. Do know that these steps still need to play out in the court system and it will take time. But the most important thing to know from all of this is that we have already succeeded in showing that the proof that we have fully proves that EVERYTHING the SEC accused Zeek and Rex in their August 16 complaint was gravely mistaken as they did not fully understand the Zeek business model and that it now looks very positive that there WILL be a Zeek Rewards business moving forward. Again, please be patient and allow for the court system and our attorneys to do their job. Please also do not listen to the "talking heads" that claim they know everything online as the only thing that they are trying to do is drive up controversy which builds their own followers and gets more views to their websites.

    I hope you all have a Blessed weekend...Keep the faith and look for further announcements from us a we get them.

    God Bless,

    Dave Kettner
    Let me take a few points lies in order:

    the retainer was sent directly to SNR Denton to represent ALL Zeek Rewards affiliates who donated and joined the protected group through Fun Club USA, LLC.
    No you thieving scumbag, "Fun Club USA" (12 members) are being represented. The donors aren't part of any sort of "protected group." Even your partner Robert isn't stupid enough to pretend otherwise when he's talking to Troy (see his recent blog post for proof of that).

    What happened was people did not listen. SNR Denton begin getting tons of calls from across the globe with people asking them questions that they could not answer
    They could not answer those questions because SNR Denton did not represent the people calling. Whether they donated or not. And will Zeek Rewards affiliates ever tire of being blamed for all the misfortune in the lives of the people trying to rip them off? What most likely happened here is the total number of calls wasn't the problem, the fact that people who donated to "Fun Club" felt they were being represented by the firm was. It wasn't the calls, it was the lies Dave told to attract donations that convinced SNR Denton to kick Fun Club to the curb.

    Here is the great news...The law firm has already talked to the SEC and the NC DOJ. On Thursday, Robert got a call from one of our attorneys regarding the conversation that he had with the SEC. Here is what he said:

    The SEC acknowledged that there are a couple of problems with the case against Zeek Rewards and Rex Venture group. Here are the problems:


    1. We (the SEC) are not able to find a victim in this case. We are not able to find anybody at this time that has been harmed by Zeek Rewards.
    There were no "victims" in Ad Surf Daily either, in that case (and in Zeek) the government shut them down before it stopped paying. This specific point was raised in ASD's forfeiture proceedings and was summarily dismissed. As it will be if it's raised this time.

    2. We (the SEC) are having a hard time finding a security. In the complaint, it said that Zeek was selling securities and was an investment scheme.
    LOL, what made them change their mind? granted we only have the word of two people asking for donations to indicate the SEC has changed it's mind so pardon my skepticism over which of your two asses you pulled this out of.

    Based on their (the SEC) new knowledge of the Zeek Rewards business model, they are having a hard time moving forward in making their case. And they are now looking for a path or way to back out of this.
    You lying sack of ****. The SEC isn't having a hard time moving forward with the case, the CASE IS OVER. They have no need to "move forward", it's DONE. Paul signed his consent to the SEC order under extremely qualified legal advice. It's done, case closed, get it yet? FINISHED. You are either deliberately manufacturing a falsehood here or you are too incompetent for a leadership position in any but the most fraudulent of fund raising efforts. And the two aren't mutually exclusive.

    I'm getting just a little worked up so perhaps it's best I let some else dissemble the rest of the many deceptions and perhaps highlight the sheer amount of deja vu that e-mail invokes in anyone who watched the Ad Surf Daily fallout. And perhaps without taxing the swear filter. Thanks.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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    Ho Boy, Kettner's lips are moving again. How can I tell? He's lying:

    Hey Zeek Samurai Kazoku,

    We just got off the phone with Robert Craddock in response to news going on around the Internet of rumors and other misrepresentations of the truth. So here is what we found out directly from Robert...

    On Monday, August 27, the retainer was sent directly to SNR Denton to represent ALL Zeek Rewards affiliates who donated and joined the protected group through Fun Club USA, LLC. It was announced many times to not contact SNR Denton directly as they were going to work directly through Robert Craddock and the group can have all questions answered directly by Robert. What happened was people did not listen. SNR Denton begin getting tons of calls from across the globe with people asking them questions that they could not answer and disrupted not only the progress of our legal filing that they were trying to do, but also interfered with their entire law firm operations.


    Due to this, SNR Denton told Robert on Friday, August 31 that they would no longer be able to represent us and sent back the retainer funds to Robert. They did however share a few law firms that they believed would be successful in representing us and Robert this past week has been able to retain another powerful law firm moving forward and has already made significant progress this week. Due to what happened with SNR Denton since people do not listen, the name of this law firm and our representing attorneys will not be announced until the filings are done early next week. At this time, the court filings will be made public.

    Again, we ask that when the law firm is announced, DO NOT CONTACT them! If you want things to proceed, then take a step back and let them proceed. People that want more information delay the work that is happening including sending Robert, myself and other emails, calls and Skype messags asking us how are things going with the Zeek fight. Please people, trust in the fact that as we know things, we will announce them. Please be patient and know that if you do these things that we are asking you not to do, all you are doing is hindering the operation. If you want to help, then spread the word of the fight, spread the word of how you can help, and pray for the best and for justice to prevail.

    Here is the great news...The law firm has already talked to the SEC and the NC DOJ. On Thursday, Robert got a call from one of our attorneys regarding the conversation that he had with the SEC. Here is what he said:

    The SEC acknowledged that there are a couple of problems with the case against Zeek Rewards and Rex Venture group. Here are the problems:

    1. We (the SEC) are not able to find a victim in this case. We are not able to find anybody at this time that has been harmed by Zeek Rewards.
    2. We (the SEC) are having a hard time finding a security. In the complaint, it said that Zeek was selling securities and was an investment scheme.

    Based on their (the SEC) new knowledge of the Zeek Rewards business model, they are having a hard time moving forward in making their case. And they are now looking for a path or way to back out of this.

    What are attorneys will be doing next week is filing a motion of appearance that they are now representing Fun Club USA, LLC. and the people that are now associated with them (the protected group). The receiver, Kenneth Bell, has now also realized that 2/3 of the Zeek Rewards affiliates are international which makes for the use of federal clawback laws being used to recover more funds impossible as they cannot collect them from the international affiliates and would not hold the 1/3 of US affiliates liable for the entire company.

    You may have noticed that on the site, Zeek Rewards Affiliates united against what is believed to be Unlawful action by the SEC » Let and zteambiz.net had to pull down the PayPal donation button. This had to be done because PayPal found out that we were working to defend Zeek Rewards and since PayPal had to stop working with Zeek in the past due to the fact that Zeek is an MLM and PayPal does not work with MLM's, they decided that they could no longer work with Fun Club USA, LLC. either. So, if there is anyone that has made a donation to Fun Club USA, LLC for their donation to the legal fight against the SEC and needs a refund for any reason, you can request that through Robert directly by sending an email to zeeklegal@gmail.com. If more donations are needed for the law firm, these directions will be forthcoming. Please realize that all funds that have been received have been sent directly to the law firm and more news will be announced next week as the filings are made with the courts.

    In the conversation with the SEC, our attorney's have already put forth the direction with moving forward with what they are calling "Zeek Rewards 2.0". They already have decided on another law firm where our attorneys would write an opinion letter which is something we have been told should have been done a long time ago with Zeek and had not been done. What this opinion letter will do is go to all regulatory agencies which will put them all on notice as to how this business, "Zeek Rewards 2.0" operates. Furthermore, if there should ever happen in the future like what happened with the SEC emergency injunction against Zeek, there will be a process that will have to be done first where they would have to go through a series of steps going through the law firm first that fully understands the business model. In other words, what happened to Zeek Rewards on August 16 which was a major mistake by the SEC, will never happen again.

    It has also been our goal to fight the SEC allegations to prove that what they accused Zeek and Rex Venture to be false, and then to get Zeek Rewards back into operation. The SEC, since we have basically called them out to prove their allegations and put their feet to the fire, they now have to own up to this HUGE mistake on their part. They can no longer sweep this mistake under the carpet and are now going to be forced to assist us in getting our business back up and running more then likely stronger then ever. The SEC were the ones that actually have recommended how to set up the opinion letter with the law firm that they recommended to be sure that the new Zeek is protected from this ever happening mistakenly again.

    Ok, well that is a wealth of information...Please be sure to share this news with everyone. Do know that these steps still need to play out in the court system and it will take time. But the most important thing to know from all of this is that we have already succeeded in showing that the proof that we have fully proves that EVERYTHING the SEC accused Zeek and Rex in their August 16 complaint was gravely mistaken as they did not fully understand the Zeek business model and that it now looks very positive that there WILL be a Zeek Rewards business moving forward. Again, please be patient and allow for the court system and our attorneys to do their job. Please also do not listen to the "talking heads" that claim they know everything online as the only thing that they are trying to do is drive up controversy which builds their own followers and gets more views to their websites.

    I hope you all have a Blessed weekend...Keep the faith and look for further announcements from us a we get them.

    God Bless,

    Dave Kettner
    Let me take a few points lies in order:

    the retainer was sent directly to SNR Denton to represent ALL Zeek Rewards affiliates who donated and joined the protected group through Fun Club USA, LLC.
    No you thieving scumbag, "Fun Club USA" (12 members) are being represented. The donors aren't part of any sort of "protected group." Even your partner Robert isn't stupid enough to pretend otherwise when he's talking to Troy (see his recent blog post for proof of that).

    What happened was people did not listen. SNR Denton begin getting tons of calls from across the globe with people asking them questions that they could not answer
    They could not answer those questions because SNR Denton did not represent the people calling. Whether they donated or not. And will Zeek Rewards affiliates ever tire of being blamed for all the misfortune in the lives of the people trying to rip them off? What most likely happened here is the total number of calls wasn't the problem, the fact that people who donated to "Fun Club" felt they were being represented by the firm was. It wasn't the calls, it was the lies Dave told to attract donations that convinced SNR Denton to kick Fun Club to the curb.

    Here is the great news...The law firm has already talked to the SEC and the NC DOJ. On Thursday, Robert got a call from one of our attorneys regarding the conversation that he had with the SEC. Here is what he said:

    The SEC acknowledged that there are a couple of problems with the case against Zeek Rewards and Rex Venture group. Here are the problems:


    1. We (the SEC) are not able to find a victim in this case. We are not able to find anybody at this time that has been harmed by Zeek Rewards.
    There were no "victims" in Ad Surf Daily either, in that case (and in Zeek) the government shut them down before it stopped paying. This specific point was raised in ASD's forfeiture proceedings and was summarily dismissed. As it will be if it's raised this time.

    2. We (the SEC) are having a hard time finding a security. In the complaint, it said that Zeek was selling securities and was an investment scheme.
    LOL, what made them change their mind? granted we only have the word of two people asking for donations to indicate the SEC has changed it's mind so pardon my skepticism over which of your two asses you pulled this out of.

    Based on their (the SEC) new knowledge of the Zeek Rewards business model, they are having a hard time moving forward in making their case. And they are now looking for a path or way to back out of this.
    You lying sack of ****. The SEC isn't having a hard time moving forward with the case, the CASE IS OVER. They have no need to "move forward", it's DONE. Paul signed his consent to the SEC order under extremely qualified legal advice. It's done, case closed, get it yet? FINISHED. You are either deliberately manufacturing a falsehood here or you are too incompetent for a leadership position in any but the most fraudulent of fund raising efforts. And the two aren't mutually exclusive.

    I'm getting just a little worked up so perhaps it's best I let some else dissemble the rest of the many deceptions and perhaps highlight the sheer amount of deja vu that e-mail invokes in anyone who watched the Ad Surf Daily fallout. And perhaps without taxing the swear filter. Thanks.

    And a late edit to add Robert's own update from the "old" dot com site:

    Update of events over the past week:


    Greetings everyone,


    This last week has been a busy one. As some of you are aware of, we have made changes in law firms that are assisting us in providing protection against possible crawl back action by the SEC. Second, in questing the application made by the SEC for Emergency seizure of Rex Venture Assets including monies we all held in e-wallets and last, getting access to the financial records of Zeek Rewards to prove this was a legitimate business we were all involved in.


    We took a moment to share with Troy Dooly this information and trusted he would not betray our trust. As it turns out we have been fooled twice, the first time was the publishing of the SNR Denton partners bio’s and next with the latest video.


    Let me say that we are going to do our best to prevail and it is looking real good from where we sit. There are some conversations going on with the SEC, the North Carolina Department of Justice and with our attorneys that lead us to believe the outcome will be better than we could have ever hoped for.


    There will be a formal filing next week with the courts announcing our attorney representation of Fun Club USA and the members of Fun Club USA which are prior Zeek Rewards affiliates. At this time, the name of the firm and the attorneys representing us will be public. We trust the attorney will take steps to protect their personal information as SNR Denton did not. Due to lack of foresight SNR Denton was hounded with thousands of calls, emails and yes, harassment and threats when people could not get answers quick enough.


    People please understand we have made great progress; we have brought up a portal to allow you to place information relevant to your business relationship with Zeek Rewards. In the last fifteen days we have interviewed as of now eight law firms, three before we retained SNR Denton and last week five before we retained the current one.


    I would like to say that as luck would have it, we feel lucky to have the current firm and feel we will be represented correctly and our outcome looks great.


    PayPal also decided to pull the plug and we have put in place a check draft system so we are no longer at the mercy of third party payment solutions.


    We expect to have more news this week and will post it just as soon as we have it.
    Thanks again for your support and understanding.


    Robert Craddock
    Bolding mine

    "Betrayed" by Troy? I'll have to watch the video again to understand what Robert is saying. The only thing I can recall off the top of my head was Troy expressing some well found skepticism about funding fun club.

    OK, I answered my own question.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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    More spin job.

    I believe Troy Dooly enough to believe that if you told Troy Dooly "Psst, this is for you, not for public consumption", he would not have said anything.

    This is Craddock trying to blame Dooly for that failed "trial balloon" claiming Denton took their retainer, i.e. "it's not my fault if HE can't keep his mouth shut". You leaked it, it's YOUR fault.
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    And now for something just a little bit alarming. Fun Club got booted off of PayPal and the reason was (depending on who you asked and when) A: PayPal is owned by eBay and eBay didn't want to help Zeekler return and displace them as the bestest auction site on the planet, or B: Zeek Rewards is MLM and even though this donation effort isn't MLM PayPal doesn't want to touch any money that touches MLM.

    Gee, that kinda reminds me of the parade of excuses that got trotted out to avoid answering the question of why six individual nations got banned from Zeek Rewards last spring. In retrospect even Troy now admits the reason for the ban was a tremendous amount of fraud occurring on the site because the incompetent programers couldn't figure out how to configure basic security features like HTTPS and SSL Encryption. And I mention this why? Well history doesn't always repeat it's self but it does have a tendency to stutter.

    Here's a screen shot of the zTeamBiz.net donation page. The gray box on the right side of the page is FireFox's page info popup. Please note, since they've lost their PayPal privileges they're doing electronic check drafts. They need your bank account number and your routing number, if that information fell into the wrong hands those wrong hands could clean out your account. Please also note they are not using HTTPS or you'd see it in the address bar and as the page info box tells you they aren't using encryption of any kind. They are literally floating all the information a hacker needs to clean your checking account out over the internet without taking the most simple precautions to protect that data.

    But they are selling (false) hope, so I guess that's OK then? (and sorry for the poor image quality)
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    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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    Oh, dear lord.

    OK, the guys I know that are (were) into Zeek... I know them from my local gin mill.

    I stopped in earlier today (NFL season opening Sunday, yay! Too bad my team, the Dolphins, are getting their arses handed to them).

    Yeah, GG is CROWING about "The SEC made a mistake and Zeek will be back!" He used the above nonsense e-mail to prove his point.

    I said, "Um... unless it appears on the SEC website, then somebody is yanking your chain, dude."

    He actually tried to bet me $1000 that Zeek would be up and running within two weeks. As tempting as it was, I couldn't take advantage of him like that. So I just bet him a pitcher of beer that it wouldn't happen. I even gave him one month instead of the two weeks he'd initially proposed.

    That beer is going to taste so sweet... mmmm, Ponzi beer!

    The crazy thing is, he's a net loser... he (and his elderly mom) each sank $10K into this nonsense and never took a dime.

    I don't know whether to laugh or cry... it's just so freaking absurd!

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    Welcome to RealScam Marley.

    It IS annoying but I'm sad to say I understand it. Every big online ponzi has a small number of "Judas Goats," the serial promoters who move from program to program and they know how these games really work. It's their job to go out and attract an army of first timers, people who've never done this sort of thing to put their money in. That's where the money to pay the promoters come from.

    Once your average first timer joins there are conference calls, skype rooms, FaceBook pages and all other manner of social media to assure them, leaving no room for doubt that they should thank their upline sponsor every day for introducing them to this once in a lifetime opportunity. There's an endless Hallelujah Chorus of praises for the program, for it's leaders and then you add to it the near Pavlovian conditioning of logging into your back office each day and seeing your point total grow and you've got an effective brainwashing environment. Everyone shares stories about trying to share this miracle with friends and family only to be rebuffed. "Wont they eat crow when I hit it big" is the constant refrain.

    It really is hard for someone who's never been through it to understand just how "cult like" these situations can be and the only "deprogramming" technique is going cold turkey. That is why I find myself despising Kettner, Craddock and Disner for their false hope law suit. They know for a fact they have no chance in court, Todd Disner's been through this before and has the motion to dismiss to prove it. But they also know that with Paul, Dawn and Darryl on an attorney imposed gag order there's a Kool-Aid shortage among the faithful so they're dispensing it with a pumper truck and passing the collection plate at the same time.

    It would be difficult for me to exaggerate who cynical and malignant I find these people to be. But all I can do about this is to try and warn the people they're trying to revictimize and to document their deceptions. One of these days these people will pay.

    And wise move going for the pitcher. Not only is it a class act but the poor sap probably couldn't come up with the grand anyway. :)
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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    Funny what you say about cult thinking... back in 2007, when I was out of work, I started to read about Scientology. That led me to the Rick Ross web site. I began reading up on various cults and the indoctrination techniques that they use. I subsequently landed a job, and let my minor obsession fall by the wayside.

    Until the Zeek phenomenon. Suddenly, for the first time, I actually saw two people become indoctrinated, by increments, before my very eyes.

    Reading about stuff online and seeing it happen in front of you are two very different things... theory vs. practice as it were.

    I'm still a bit stunned by the whole thing. Guys that I'd considered, if not friends, at least friendly acquaintances were suddenly drooling kool-aid drinkers who turned on me on a dime.

    Watching two seemingly normal (if not terribly bright, to be honest, even before Zeek) people become absolutely transformed by greed is probably one of the most eye-opening experiences of my life.

    I learned more about human nature than I wanted to, to be honest.

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    What I find most amusing is that the "Circle of 12", as I call them, are repeating word-for-word the stuff ASD cheerleaders said 4 years ago. It's like they are reading from the same handbook....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizzard7 View Post
    What I find most amusing is that the "Circle of 12", as I call them, are repeating word-for-word the stuff ASD cheerleaders said 4 years ago. It's like they are reading from the same handbook....
    They're playing to a whole new generation of disciples to whom it's all "new" so, it's not as silly as it seems.

    Many/most of the Zeeklers have never heard of ASD and are resistant to even researching what happened.

    Personally, I think there's multiple different motives for what's happening.

    * For the gang of 12 to have their defense paid for.

    * to rope in a new generation of HYIP ponzi players

    * to reinforce to those true believers still remaining (and there are many) that Zeek was a legit. business and this is what any legit business owner would do.

    * create as much confusion as possible to fend off the upcoming criminal investigation/s

    * capitalize on what's happened and the discontent it's created by offering to "sooth the pain" with new "opportunities"
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    I try to avoid posting stuff like this, there are a lot of hurting people clinging to any hope they can find. But this is the sort of unmitigated BS that the Kettner's are letting be posted on the "Zeek Rewards Affiliates United Against the SEC" FaceBook page:

    • Sue Brown Coggeshall From what I am reading Zeek 2.0 is not going to be a re-opening of the business we all knew and loved, BUT a new. Therefore our downlines, RPP and $$ is still gone! Correct me if I am wrong but that is what I am reading.
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    • Deedee Kanok Where did you read Sue?
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    • Jim Forbes Sue, As I understand it, the original Zeek was shut down by Paul Burks in the process of pleading no contest. Therefore, Zeek must be re-instituted as a new company. But, keeping the name Zeek Rewards 2.0 means all downlines, RPP and monetary assets should stay in place. This will require agreements between our attorneys and the SEC of course, but this is how I see it.
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    • Collins-Lock Lori Sue, I haven't read that. It's my understanding that Zeek 2.0 will be a better and stronger version than the initial Zeek. I also understand that the idea is to roll the 2 Zeeks together to accomplish this.
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    • Jenifer Stinson Sue I hope that is not true, talk about a lot of pissed off people. Yes it is going to be 2.0, but I did not read anything about money.
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    They started this Zeek 2.0 hogwash and are milking the false hope for all the donations they can get.

    For the people with any doubt that Zeek Rewards is dead and gone, watch the following and when they say "Parrot" you should hear "Zeek."




    And a quick edit to add what is purported to be an e-mail received from Peter Minglis, the former Lead trainer of the now very much deceased Zeek Rewards:

    Here is part of an email I just received from Peter Minglis one hour ago!
    Hello (Redacted),

    You signed up for a Free LMS System (Lead Management System) when you were working your Zeek business.

    I had a "passenger's side front seat view" of what happened with Zeek between late February 2012 through today and have my own opinions of how things went awry.

    I have been mostly silent on this. The pending investigations will either clarify or distort this issue further. If you attended any training calls, you might have heard me say, "Unless I know all the variables, any conclusion I draw is probably wrong". I will hold my final conclusion when the facts are presented. There's a lot of confusion about Zeek, so imagine that everyone involved is working with incomplete information.

    Here is what I do know:

    The ripple effects of the handling of Zeek's closing and the SEC actions will effect this Industry and the lives of many honest people for years to come. As other agencies prepare and implement their power, more people's lives will be negatively affected.

    Here's a few of my thoughts:
    I saw many people in the field and the home office doing everything right.
    I knew and interviewed legal and business counsel, compliance and fraud personnel, affiliate services, home office staff, and lots of affiliates ... and conclude "you" were part of something special and certainly not a ponzi.

    Unless some information comes out that was hidden from almost everyone, what happened to Paul Burks and your company to influence the closing of Zeek was wrong. I am proud to witness what "you" did collectively, knowing there were some rouge affiliates that would have been weeded out over time.

    If you have any doubts, dismiss them. If you "did Zeek the right way", you should be proud.

    I also stated "what should be and what really is in real life" can be different and not always fair. This is certainly the case moving forward.

    If you have the entrepreneurial spirit within you, you already know that obstacles are what you see, when you take your eyes off your goals. Millions of people everyday overcome greater challenges. If you were one of the hundreds of thousands affected worldwide, I know you can too.

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    Jordan Maglich, Forbes magazine contributor and Author of the PonziTracker blog posted about the Disner/Kettner/Craddock lawsuit:

    SEC Admissions Of Weakness In Zeek Case "Inaccurate"; Tactics and Motivations of Zeek Victim Group Questioned

    Jordan D. Maglich Monday, September 10, 2012 at 8:37PM

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    These apparent admissions by the SEC quickly spread over the internet, with dozens of websites frequented by the multi-level marketing community accepting the statements as fact and quickly proclaiming that the SEC was close to capitulating. The claims seem skeptical for several reasons. First, it is highly unlikely that these kind of admissions would be made to a potentially adversarial party and/or attorney. Second, both Rex Venture Group and Paul Burks have each already entered into a consent judgment agreeing to waive any right of appeal, and, in Burk's case, paying a $4 million civil penalty.
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    These suspicions were confirmed today after Ponzitracker spoke with a top SEC official familiar with the case. After reviewing the allegations, the official, who declined to be named, labeled the statements as "inaccurate" and "false". Additionally, it would be highly impractical for the SEC to make such moves and statements without allowing the receiver to complete his initial investigation and make appropriate recommendations.
    And not a snip but a shout out to our man:

    Craddock is no stranger to controversy in his affiliation with Zeek and Rex Venture Group. Several months before Zeek was shut down by the SEC, a blogger who goes by the name of KSChang posted an article presenting a detailed look into the legitimacy of Zeek. The article contained a wealth of information about Zeek, its past, and, perhaps most prescient, whether "ZeekRewards [is] a Ponzi Scheme?".
    snip

    Less than three weeks later, the SEC confirmed the article's skepticism and shut down Zeek.
    Congratz KSChang, instead of shutting you up Robert Craddock got you a link on a LexisNexis top 25 buisness law blog. Robert should put that in his resume.

    Oh, and the rest of the article can be read here.
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    GD, you also made a great post on the Ponzitracker's blog, and yes kudos to Kasey for the acknowledgement of his efforts.

    I posted it on MMG and can't wait to see the responses. This should be good for a lot of laughs of watching people trying to dance around the news and put their "positive" spin on it. I can already guess what they are going to say.
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    Got a heads-up from Mr. Maglich already. It's certainly interesting.

    If you read lawyer-speak for a while, you can tell that SEC was really pissed off.
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    Hmm, assembled from fragments and assuming we take them at face value Robert Craddock had not yet begun taking much money out of the program. But Kettner was in Zeek for over a year and I believe his wife was as well, and if Todd Disner wasn't THE top earner he was darn close to it.

    With claw backs lurking not so very deeply below the surface, is this a good time to piss off the SEC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlimDropper View Post
    Hmm, assembled from fragments and assuming we take them at face value Robert Craddock had not yet begun taking much money out of the program. But Kettner was in Zeek for over a year and I believe his wife was as well, and if Todd Disner wasn't THE top earner he was darn close to it.

    With claw backs lurking not so very deeply below the surface, is this a good time to piss off the SEC?
    Not when you consider it has "friends" in high places....!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    I called a wrong number at SNR Denton and quite by chance ended up talking to someone who can't comment on the record, but the short story is SNR Denton fired the client. Some things are apparently too scummy for even a lawyer to touch. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    I called a wrong number at SNR Denton and quite by chance ended up talking to someone who can't comment on the record, but the short story is SNR Denton fired the client. Some things are apparently too scummy for even a lawyer to touch. :)
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    The latest zTeam Biz Update:

    LATEST NEWS

    Update as of September 11, 2012

    Greetings good people, I use this term as it is one you are used to seeing and it also seems to be firing up the Internet Clowns as I would like to describe them. As you are aware of we have secured a law firm and are moving forward with, answering the questions all of us want to know. We have some great things happening but if I can I would like to discuss how you all need to be aware of potential threats on the web.


    As we all know if you read something on the web through a blog or posting people tend to accept it as being true and I would like to point out that in most cases it is not. For the ones that have had the privilege to meet with, you know that Zeek Rewards was in the process of retaining me, to challenge some of the negative posting and content being placed on the web. As we have moved into this new challenge and like most people out there I also would like to see Zeek Rewards come back but know the challenges that await us are enormous but not impossible.


    If I may I would like to explain the logic of keeping everyone confused and guessing “what comes next”, for example let’s look at the revenue model of Troy Dooly’s MLM Help Desk. As we all know Troy site did not get the traffic it now enjoys before Zeek Rewards, but in the last 4 weeks the traffic has shot up as shown by this graph from Alexa



    If you look at the graph the site was kind of flat but if you take a look at the spike in traffic you can see that due to the problems at Zeek Rewards, Troy Dooly was capitalizing on your pain and confusion. As we formed a group to assist and provide legal representation the excitement was enormous and Troy wanted to capitalize on this, again as you can see by the spike in traffic. Now you may ask yourself how this would translate into dollars for Troy if he continued to keep you on this roller coaster of emotion, well simply, if you have advertisement on your page you most likely get paid by one of three ways if not all three. First you have impression revenue that simply means that the more people that come to your site the more you make, the next one is click through revenue and again with more traffic the more chances, and you have that someone will click on a banner advertisement. The last is flat rate advertisement and that happens when you can’t show large amounts of traffic and by Troy site it appears he has a flavor of both.

    Banner Ad Pricing
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    I would say to you that Troy wanted to get updates starting on the 5th of September and, have responded to Troy that we needed to let the information he received will need to come from court filings. Now this is not going to drive traffic to his site so he needs to create a sense of panic, and he has done that.

    I’m posting this now to help you understand that Troy needs to keep the prior Zeek Affiliates in a panic and let you think that the latest news will come from Troy but I’m here to tell you that you will only get updates from me in your secure backend area located at Zteambiz.net


    If you have not gotten your login please go to zteambiz.net and signup, its free and you do not need to donate anything to be part of this site.


    And last please don't let people play with your emotions for their financial gain
    "Don't let people play with your emotions for their financial gain"- As MammaDropper always said, when you point your finger at someone, you have three fingers pointing back at your self. That being said:

    Craddock/Kettner are idiots. This update was a reaction to Troy Dooly making a blog post after someone sent him a link to Jordan Maglich's PonziTracker blog post. It's one thing for Dave and Robert to lie in awkward and disprovable ways but for as much as I like the guy, the reason Troy shaves his head is to avoid chafing when he lets people pull the wool over his eyes. All they needed to do is gladhand Troy a bit and then Troy would have continued to handwave away the red flags, but instead they antagonize the man.

    I am glad they did it for the obvious reasons, this proves they're less than fully competent con men which will save a few people a few bucks. And it leads to the possibility that they'll make even more critical mistakes which could be fun to watch. And perhaps, just perhaps they'll be so incautious as to make legally actionable mistakes and I'd love to see these scumbags in a perp walk.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

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    But that's good for "us" the ponzi-busters, right? Dooly was on cordial terms with Craddock because Craddock was buddy with Caldwell (whom Dooly knows personally). When Craddock starts talking sh__ about Dooly, Dooly's gonna change his mind pretty quick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kschang View Post
    But that's good for "us" the ponzi-busters, right? Dooly was on cordial terms with Craddock because Craddock was buddy with Caldwell (whom Dooly knows personally). When Craddock starts talking sh__ about Dooly, Dooly's gonna change his mind pretty quick.
    This is not the first time that Troy Dooly has "backed a loser", and, as far as I am aware, he is still supporting some other rather dubious MLMs. It would be good to think that this time he has learnt his lesson and will do his homework properly before backing a scheme. Because he is well known in the MLM world, a large number of people follow his advice and he, therefore, has a great responsibility to his readers to get it right. He has let them down over Zeek and it is almost certain that there are people who joined BECAUSE of his recommendations and since lost their money. If he has a conscience, he should be having a hard time sleeping nights.

    If he doesn't learn from this, then he does not deserve the respect he presently has in some circles (though by no means all!) and is little better than any other ponzi promoter who wants to make a fast buck and doesn't care where the money comes from.

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    Troy just posted a new video lambasting Craddock for not answering questions. At the end he made a "read between the lines" concession that Zeek's not MEANT to be a Ponzi, and given enough time Caldwell could have fixed it. Whether that's reality or not is up for debate, but it seems it's a concession nonetheless. I wouldn't call him out on it though. He's gonna get all defensive if you guys call him out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kschang View Post
    Troy just posted a new video lambasting Craddock for not answering questions. At the end he made a "read between the lines" concession that Zeek's not MEANT to be a Ponzi, and given enough time Caldwell could have fixed it. Whether that's reality or not is up for debate, but it seems it's a concession nonetheless. I wouldn't call him out on it though. He's gonna get all defensive if you guys call him out.
    What kind of pre-teen nonsense is this? "I didn't mean to?" Seriously? That's the best he's got for being dead wrong and probably sucking in countless victims that thought his analysis meant something?
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Quote Originally Posted by laidback View Post
    What kind of pre-teen nonsense is this? "I didn't mean to?" Seriously? That's the best he's got for being dead wrong and probably sucking in countless victims that thought his analysis meant something?
    Just like he 'didn't mean to' shill for his friend in the failed telecom mlm scam until he got caught just like here...........

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