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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    There's still IRS, FBI, NC AG, and SS to deal with... Where's the rest of the gang?

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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    Quote Originally Posted by laidback View Post
    Here are more vultures circling the carcass: Zeek Rewards Recovery
    Interesting, since according to this Troy Dooley video, he was hired by Bidify back in March, 2012.

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    I'm not clear on who Todd Disner is. While I can totally understand the outrage and not wanting to feel helpless two words come to mind regarding his putting together a crack team of attorneys, GOOD LUCK! Been there, done that, (and bought the t-shirt). I wasted $85K more of my (MY) money along with others who did similarly. One of the chief faults with that plan was that I forgot that when an attorney passes the bar he becomes an "officer of the court". Duh, who does he work for? And who's interest's must he put first? What is lamentable (among many things) is that very very few of those who signed on as affiliates intended anything other than passive income. Not realizing that successful people in any monetary endeavor in life are entrepreneurs. A very good definition of entrepreneur is risk taker. Risk is not a scary word. The idea is to determine if and how the risk is manageable. For those who participated in the Zeek "experience" that truly are entrepreneurs, they have moved on already. Like any other death, the death of Zeekler needs to be mourned. But, then less we become just bitter souls, we move on. I know I am moving on.
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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    Quote Originally Posted by The Great Dane View Post
    Like any other death, the death of Zeekler needs to be mourned.
    Really? Why would someone mourn the loss of something that was destined to hurt so many more people? Or maybe you meant that people should grieve the fact that they got scammed and possibly hurt other people and then move on? That makes sense if that's what you meant.

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    Todd Disner is one of the founders of Quiznos. He also apparently hasn't seen a scam he didn't like,because he was in the failed ASD, OneX, and Zeek, plus probably many others. When the Feds shut down ASD Todd partnered with Dwight Schweitzer, a former attorney to sue the Government. They were scurrying around trying to get people to donate to their legal fund.
    Patrick Pretty has written extensively about it, and our own Wizzard7 is following the progress of their case through the court.
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Quote Originally Posted by laidback View Post
    Todd Disner is one of the founders of Quiznos. He also apparently hasn't seen a scam he didn't like,because he was in the failed ASD, OneX, and Zeek, plus probably many others. When the Feds shut down ASD Todd partnered with Dwight Schweitzer, a former attorney to sue the Government. They were scurrying around trying to get people to donate to their legal fund.
    Patrick Pretty has written extensively about it, and our own Wizzard7 is following the progress of their case through the court.
    Todd Disner had over 1.5 million VIP points from what I know a few months ago. His final points total could have been higher. He is one of the "top 12 affiliates making $1M/month". Keep in mind the "200 founders" at the top of the matrix made a lot of money each month as well. When you have tens of thousands to hundred thousand affiliates under you and you are earning matrix commissions on them, that adds up.

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    Zeek victims need to be very, very careful what they do WRT cheques and deposits.

    A receiver HAS been appointed and a court ordered asset freeze is in place that covers funds in ALL payment processors, including those online.

    A portion of the full order:







    The full Courts' Order Appointing Receiver can be downloaded in .PDF format from HERE
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    Noted and respected industry expert, court certified expert witness and all around swell guy Len Clements has completed his in depth and comprehensive investigation into Zeek Rewards:

    ZEEKREWARDS REVIEW
    Len Clements © 2012In the 21 years I have been analyzing and reviewing network marketing programs I don’t believeI have ever received more requests for commentary on any single opportunity, over any sixmonth period, than I have for ZeekRewards. Nor do I believe there has been as manyassumptions, and as much conjecture and misinformation published about any single networkmarketing program. ZeekRewards is confusing.Let’s see if we can clear things up a bit.The first challenge in reviewing ZeekRewards is that it has been in a constant state of metamorphosis. It’s like trying to paint a portrait of a butterfly while it’s still in the cocoon. Andalthough we know it started out as a pretty ugly caterpillar, it’s still yet to be seen exactly what’sgoing to emerge. But after closely following, researching and analyzing ZR for over three monthsI think I’ve got a pretty good idea of what they are turning into – and it isn’t a beautiful butterfly.More like a malformed, brown moth. But the real question is, will it fly, or die?
    [Link]

    One of the frustrations Mr. Clements expressed during his not nearly brief enough stint as an Administrator on scam dot com was that we said nasty things about some programs before we had "proof." I asked him what short of a court records would he accept as "proof"? He never answered at the time.

    Len, the reason we warn people about a scam before the dust settles is because that's the only time you can help them. I'm sure you have the gratitude of all the people who didn't invest their money in Zeek Rewards based on your considered expert opinion.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    Poor Lenny. That was one convoluted answer he gave. Apparently, he meant to say this one looks questionable. Lucky for our readers, some of us here are less flowery and verbose. How about those very informative one word answers I come up with like:

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlimDropper
    One of the frustrations Mr. Clements expressed during his not nearly brief enough stint as an Administrator on scam dot com was that we said nasty things about some programs before we had "proof."
    I love it when fence sitters like Lenny come out with nonsense like that.

    How can a guru of his guruness not understand the people we're describing are criminals ??

    You know, the kind of people who are perpetrating a fraud.

    The kind of people who lie, cheat, lie, steal, lie, forge documents, lie, and, above all else, lie.

    Produce a document, they'll Photoshop it.

    Point out a flaw ??

    They'll pretend they've fixed it.

    Look at the ASD/Bowdoin story. What part of it turned out to be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth ??

    Even ASDs' street address was phony, it was 1 digit out.

    Think about it Lenny, hundreds of millions, if not billions have passed through Zeek since its' inception.

    What would YOU do, Lenny for access to hundreds of millions of dollars.

    Then ask yourself, what would a criminal do ??

    Tell the truth ?? About ANYTHING" ???

    Wake up, your guruship, wake up.
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    Troy's newest blog post is up, here's the video:




    Just a quick note, I was posting links to his videos on YouTube when he was having site issues and his blog was frequently unavailable. These seem to have mostly been resolved (save for some issues with the comment system) but in a way, Troy and I are in the same buisness, that being trying to make a website grow. Now our content and our perspectives aren't the same but I respect that he shares the same commitment to free speech as we do here. You want to cuss me out, do it. Troy has earned some of the brickbats swinging at him and he's standing still for them. I make mention of this to explain that from now on, as long as his site isn't experiencing any technical difficulties, if I feel the need to comment on one of his posts or videos I'll link to his blog post on the topic and not the video only.

    As to his latest video, step in the right direction. It's been said that Rome wasn't built in a day, but it burned in one. Troy is starting to shift through the ashes. We can blame him all we want for not smelling the smoke before the fire department showed up but that wont change anything.

    I've said it before, while Troy did mention a few tiny little red flags the over all tenor of his ZR coverage was not conveying an impression of concern but rather of optimism and encouragement for the program. I have no doubt that many people invested a whole lot of money in Zeek Rewards because of the impression Troy conveyed. I also believe that this can change him.

    Perhaps I'm overly optimistic and acting on a false sense of encouragement but I think this can change him for the better. Do I still find myself slapping my forehead sometimes when i hear him speak, hell yea. But I also hear him say a few things which need to be said to some people who would never listen to us.

    One small funny, at about the 4:10 mark Troy said (not a direct quote) "They were terminating distributors for doing things wrong right up till the time the SEC called and told them they needed them to close their doors." Yea, ZR was terminating distributors for being out of compliance right up until the time the SEC called and closed them down for doing things wrong. And what I find funny about that is I'm not really sure if Troy can see why that's funny. Folks, let's try to explain that joke to him.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlimDropper View Post
    Noted and respected industry expert, court certified expert witness and all around swell guy Len Clements has completed his in depth and comprehensive investigation into Zeek Rewards:



    [Link]

    One of the frustrations Mr. Clements expressed during his not nearly brief enough stint as an Administrator on scam dot com was that we said nasty things about some programs before we had "proof." I asked him what short of a court records would he accept as "proof"? He never answered at the time.

    Len, the reason we warn people about a scam before the dust settles is because that's the only time you can help them. I'm sure you have the gratitude of all the people who didn't invest their money in Zeek Rewards based on your considered expert opinion.
    How did he ever find the time to pull himself away from the penultimate project of testing the amega wand claims to even post that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    I love it when fence sitters like Lenny come out with nonsense like that.

    How can a guru of his guruness not understand the people we're describing are criminals ??

    You know, the kind of people who are perpetrating a fraud.

    The kind of people who lie, cheat, lie, steal, lie, forge documents, lie, and, above all else, lie.

    Produce a document, they'll Photoshop it.

    Point out a flaw ??

    They'll pretend they've fixed it.

    Look at the ASD/Bowdoin story. What part of it turned out to be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth ??

    Even ASDs' street address was phony, it was 1 digit out.

    Think about it Lenny, hundreds of millions, if not billions have passed through Zeek since its' inception.

    What would YOU do, Lenny for access to hundreds of millions of dollars.

    Then ask yourself, what would a criminal do ??

    Tell the truth ?? About ANYTHING" ???

    Wake up, your guruship, wake up.
    He's just hoping to get a seat with dooly on that shill money train and is upset he's too late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whip View Post
    How did he ever find the time to pull himself away from the penultimate project of testing the amega wand claims to even post that?
    Easy,

    He combined both tests.

    He waved the Amega wand and it whispered in his ear.
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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    I admire a good turn of phrase:

    Receiver takes over at Zeek, affiliates seek rewards

    A two-story gray house on West Second Avenue in Lexington is reported to be the home of Rex Venture Group's Paul Burks, who operated Zeek Rewards and zeekler.com.
    Donnie Roberts/The Dispatch

    By Nash Dunn
    The Dispatch

    Published: Monday, August 20, 2012 at 1:16 p.m.

    Last Modified: Monday, August 20, 2012 at 1:16 p.m.


    The attorney responsible for collecting, managing and distributing Zeek Rewards funds says it's too early to predict what money will be returned to affiliates.

    Last week, the federal government froze the assets of Rex Venture Group, LLC, the parent company of Zeek Rewards that was headquartered in Lexington, calling it a pyramid and Ponzi scheme on the verge of collapse. Since January 2011, the company and its Chief Executive Officer Paul Burks allegedly raised more than $600 million from nearly one million affiliates throughout the world by making unregistered offers and sales of securities, according to a complaint filed by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) filed in federal court in Charlotte on Friday.
    The rest of the story is available over at The Dispatch.

    In the meantime, a website is being constructed for concerned and affected affiliates. The website, www.zeekrewardsreceivership.com, should be up and running within the next couple of days and will include the SEC's complaint, court orders for the receiver, updates and claim forms.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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    Our old friend, Amanda/Quickie over at the Money Insider News HYIP ponzi form has decided to contribute her words of wisdom to the debate.



    How excellent, conspiracy theory AND the old "go offshore" red herring.

    Damn, you'd think someone would change the script every now and then.
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    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soapboxmom View Post
    Speaking of picking over the corpse of Zeek. I just got a lovely call from a computer with a message from Jack Calderon (sp?) He has a fantastic option for those poor Zeeksters that have been burned and asked those interested to leave him a message at the beep. I did! I did!!! I thanked him for calling Soapboxmom and told him I would share his latest scam with all the readers at Realscam. I tried to call back and inquire as to what crum bum deal he was pushing, but incoming calls are not answered except to say it is not a valid mailbox. Boohooo!!! How will I know what to sign up for if Jack doesn't call me back???

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    I was so keen to see what he would say now that zeek has been shut down and he didn't let me down....

    This guy is an expert with the use of the bible to scam....

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    On Friday, in the midst of all the confusions surrounding Zeek, I sent out an email which a lot of people received very well and responded positively to it. I am so pleased to see quite a lot more people picking up from where they have fallen and are already up and running with several other options available to us.



    Like the Biblical Moses, Zeek is gone, it is time for Joshua to quit lamenting and get himself and the people into the promise land. Wailing and crying over the demise of what looked like the deliverer does not help anyone, except you are willing to keep the dream of deliverance alive by pursuing and completing the vision.



    My position is to keep our vision alive no matter what happens. Working from home and earning full-time income online is not a dream but a reality which some of us are already experiencing. There is no how you will be denied the same experience if you are willing to persevere.




    For those who were Zeek affiliates, you can’t bring back Zeek, but you know you can challenge yourselves to push forward and make happen what has already started. For the first time online, 100% of the people made money working on the same opportunity.


    Zeek may be dead, but many Joshuas are up and running while many more will be showing up sooner than you think. Only those who wipe their tears, let go of the past, learn the lessons and look forward for the promises of the future can reach the promise land of f-inancial independence.



    It may be that, metaphorically, Zeek has completed his own assignment and must be removed in order for the next man (warrior and decisive leader) to lead the way to the Promised Land.



    While Zeek was alive he inspired others who are now running strong and not willing to give up. The path that Zeek created cannot be beaten easily regardless of whether it was a ponzi or not! Zeek will always remain fresh on many hearts as the pace-setter and the pathfinder of what was a mere theory in the network industry.



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    Zeek could not stand the hurricane! Now we know better and have added to our knowledge of what an unshakeable opportunity looks like.



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    I got a couple links to that too. Denied them as spam. **** Vultures.

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    After reading through Len Clement's LONG missive on Zeek Rewards... I'll give him a B-.

    He got most of the facts right, and he's pretty plain spoken. However, his analysis has two MAJOR failings:

    1) Relies too much on Zeek's own words, esp. ZeekRewardsNews.com
    2) Relies too much on Troy Dooly's words

    Without considering the bias on BOTH of the sources.

    The NCSECU issue is a bit weird. I know the story changed somewhat, but relying on Caldwell and Dooly for info? Nah.

    His NCDOJ section had no particular conclusion.

    Len also tried to play the "blame BBB" game, though immediately turned around and explained the trend looks bad for Zeek.

    Len also discussed "discontinuation of 5cc" without realizing that the 5cc was simply "outsourced" to Bessoni's ZCustomers, though I could have swore I mentioned it to him once.

    Len's explanation on why Zeek's not a Ponzi scheme is flat wrong. Let me explain why by quoting him:

    "this part of the ZR business model is ingenious. Start an MLM company called ZeekRewards, collect an army of people who will place literally millions of small advertisements all over the net, and buy literally millions of bids to give away, all designed to attract customersto a penny auction site called Zeekler.com. While the penny auction site is selling items to hundreds of winning bidders and raking in 10 to 40 times their cost for each one, all day long, seven days a week, they can easily afford to plow “up to 50%” of Zeekler’s daily profits into ZeekRewards."

    Len here *assumed* that the Penny Auction Side *can* produce the profits to feed the ZeekRewards side. He failed to test the snapshots of auctions, calculate the potential revenue, and so on and so forth. There is NO WAY the auctions can be producing that much revenue for sharing. It's impossible, even if you stretch the numbers.

    And of course, the SEC complaint, stating that only 2% of payout did NOT come from affiliates, and only 0.5% of all giveaway bids were redeemed, confirmed that virtually all the "profits" being shared are from the giveaway bids, NOT through the auctions.

    In fact, Len later, in the "pyramid scheme" section, wrote "(Zeek) openly describe how the vast majority of bids are, in fact, not being used for bidding".

    If they are not used for bidding, then where are the profits coming from? Len? From the affiliates!

    Though his pyramid scheme analysis is top-notch.

    Seems he just glossed over the Ponzi section, because Dooly told him it's not a Ponzi.

    I hate to say this, but Len, you and Dooly are a circular argument, at least on that aspect.

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    OOPS !!!

    Won't THIS put a cat among the "use online payment processors and you'll be safe" pigeons.

    The times, they really ARE a changin'

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    OK, who didn't see this coming?

    Zeekers - Don't lose your income without a fight Re: subscribe

    From:suzyn posch <zeekersunite@gmail.com> [Add]To:xxxxxxxxxxxx [Add]
    Date:Tue, 21 Aug 2012 5:31 AM (less than a minute ago)

    ------------------------------------------------------- Zeek Diamond Updates zeekdiamondupdates@gmail.com 8:12 AM (2 hours ago) PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO YOUR ZEEK TEAM and ANY ZEEK REWARDS AFFILIATE YOU MAY KNOW... I am joining Todd Disner who is putting together a Legal Team to go after the Government for what they did to Zeek Rewards and How They Did It! Dear Zeek Rewards Team Affiliate In a few days we are putting together a war chest to go after the SEC and The Legal System that BROKE EVERY RULE IN THE BOOK! They interfered with our business and our privacy. Paul Burkes was literally Physically Sick, and did not have the strength or the will power to fight. We know they came in with their scare tactics the same way they did with ASD. Do not let the press or rumors drown you out with here say. Just because they say it that does not make it TRUE or RIGHT. They took on ONE MAN - PAUL BURKES and WON a BATTLE... But now they need to take on TWO MILLION ZEEK REWARD AFFILIATES who will have a Multi-Million Dollar Legal War Chest. Stay Tune for MORE DETAILS!!! Regarding ZEEK REWARD AFFILIATES "VS" The Government of The United States And if you think The Government of the USA is to big to take on... Let me reword it for you... ZEEK REWARD AFFILIATES & GOD "VS" The Government of The United States PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO YOUR TEAM and ANY ZEEK REWARDS AFFILIATE YOU MAY KNOW... TO STAY UP TO DATE E-MAIL US AT "Zeek Diamond Updates" <zeekdiamondupdates@gmail.com> ================ Thank you for reading, Suzyn Posch Diamond sjzeekler@gmail.com Skype: sjmarkets
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    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kschang View Post
    After reading through Len Clement's LONG missive on Zeek Rewards... I'll give him a B-.

    He got most of the facts right, and he's pretty plain spoken. However, his analysis has two MAJOR failings:

    1) Relies too much on Zeek's own words, esp. ZeekRewardsNews.com
    2) Relies too much on Troy Dooly's words


    Without considering the bias on BOTH of the sources.

    The NCSECU issue is a bit weird. I know the story changed somewhat, but relying on Caldwell and Dooly for info? Nah.

    His NCDOJ section had no particular conclusion.

    Len also tried to play the "blame BBB" game, though immediately turned around and explained the trend looks bad for Zeek.

    Len also discussed "discontinuation of 5cc" without realizing that the 5cc was simply "outsourced" to Bessoni's ZCustomers, though I could have swore I mentioned it to him once.

    Len's explanation on why Zeek's not a Ponzi scheme is flat wrong. Let me explain why by quoting him:

    "this part of the ZR business model is ingenious. Start an MLM company called ZeekRewards, collect an army of people who will place literally millions of small advertisements all over the net, and buy literally millions of bids to give away, all designed to attract customersto a penny auction site called Zeekler.com. While the penny auction site is selling items to hundreds of winning bidders and raking in 10 to 40 times their cost for each one, all day long, seven days a week, they can easily afford to plow “up to 50%” of Zeekler’s daily profits into ZeekRewards."

    Len here *assumed* that the Penny Auction Side *can* produce the profits to feed the ZeekRewards side. He failed to test the snapshots of auctions, calculate the potential revenue, and so on and so forth. There is NO WAY the auctions can be producing that much revenue for sharing. It's impossible, even if you stretch the numbers.

    And of course, the SEC complaint, stating that only 2% of payout did NOT come from affiliates, and only 0.5% of all giveaway bids were redeemed, confirmed that virtually all the "profits" being shared are from the giveaway bids, NOT through the auctions.

    In fact, Len later, in the "pyramid scheme" section, wrote "(Zeek) openly describe how the vast majority of bids are, in fact, not being used for bidding".

    If they are not used for bidding, then where are the profits coming from? Len? From the affiliates!

    Though his pyramid scheme analysis is top-notch.

    Seems he just glossed over the Ponzi section, because Dooly told him it's not a Ponzi.

    I hate to say this, but Len, you and Dooly are a circular argument, at least on that aspect.
    Bold black: Why shouldn't he? People have been posting them all over the internet. All he had to do was copy them.
    Bold red: And you expected something different? They're all scammers.

    You're talking about someone who alleges to have this outrageously high IQ but insisted and testing a piece of plastic to see if it really has magical powers or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlimDropper View Post
    Todd and Dwight ride again.
    Mr Disner, calling Mr Disner, your transport has arrived:

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Mr Disner, calling Mr Disner, your transport has arrived:

    They will need a lot of luck there, since the Donkey is smarter than both of them...! How in the h-e-double-tooth-picks did Todd manage to co-found a legitimate, thriving business?
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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