Thread: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

I contacted Ted Nuyten who revised his estimate of revenue to 50 million (2010) and 150 million (2011).

And I goofed. The IDS says payout to US active affiliates is 58.5 million, not 65. Though 65 is probably all payouts, pretty close.

Still doesn't explain how they paid 58.5 million "profit share" out of 50 million revenue.

Zeek leadership keeps acting like a cult. Their behavior has been akin to "Do as we say or else, and no dissent is allowed. Those who may be on the cusp of dissent need more neuro-linguistic-reprogramming."

How do we fight back against a Ponzi with an army of linguistically-programmed defenders who subconsciously and monetarily benefit as the Ponzi draws in more victims? We do it Legally, Anonymously (if you prefer), Morally, and Ethically. It is called the power of LAME as we will lay bare their lame attempts at deception with the viral power of the interwebs!

The Heroes in this Epic Battle:

• Realscam.com
• BehindMLM.com
• kschang.hubpages.com
• PatrickPretty.com

What I Propose:

• Exposure, exposure, exposure! We need to link to the Heroes above.
• Search Engine Optimization. If you own any web publishing properties and can link to these sites, do it! "Like" the threads on these 4 sites, use Google +1. Use the correct anchor text such as "Zeek Rewards", "zeekrewards", "zeek rewards scam".
• Fight misinformation... everywhere! Every blog post, Facebook account, forum, everywhere. Reply with the facts and logical analysis.

Fighting Fire with Lots of Fire:

• I am mining bitcoin and for every 1 bitcoin earned, I will use to recruit Google +1, Facebook Likes, and Twitter Re-Tweets to these 4 web sites. Anyone who wants to donate bitcoin can do so anonymously (by creating a new bitcoin account in your bitcoin eWallet) and send to: 1MMAaEfi9PUK21jf6LkY7qSpn7mfeVngyh
• YouTube Videos... Zeek's own compliance overreach of making every marketer take down their own advertising leaves the SEO game much easier for us to dominate! We will create Zeek videos revealing the truth. Remember, we are using the LAME technique, so we will not spread FUD or misinformation, but only shout from the rooftops the facts and logical analysis.

Heavy Handed Tactics (but still following the LAME guidelines):

• Find all *.zeekrewards.com user sites in search engines and use the "Learn More" box to send anonymous messages to an active affiliate letting them know about the RISK of participating in a Ponzi, including possible liability in their country if they are one of the top affiliates. (Search for "Charter Diamond Affiliate" to find affiliates that likely have been in the longest and have the largest balances.) kschang has provided some great legal precedent and actual court cases where top affiliates were held liable for the Ponzi.
  
• Post on Zeek's own support forum at zeeksupport.zeekrewards.com. This will require you to become a free affiliate. Remember to post honest questions and link back to the Heroes above. Don't be a troll and be forthright with your questions.
  
• Post on Zeek's Facebook page. They moderate and will delete your post - but they are usually slow, but it will get exposure. Link to the Heroes above. Post in the form of a question rather than look like one who is trying to lecture from on high. Two techniques for Facebook posting:
  
  1. Start a question so your text is seen on the main page without having to click through. The first 60 characters are the most important because that is what will be displayed!
  2. Reply to an exiting series of comments with a lot of users. This will result in them being notified. Best to find comments that already show some suspicion or uncertainty of the Ponzi/scam, as you probably will not deter the converted - but you might get the converted to withdraw more aggressively.

DO NOT PERFORM ANY ANARCHIST PROTEST TECHNIQUES! No calling their customer support phone number, no typing up faxes, no DDoS attacks against the website, no web application scanning (even though they are probably VERY LIKELY vulnerable to SQL injection attacks based on their weak programming evidenced to date). We are using LAME techniques only.

Mission #1 - Improve SEO for our Heroes.

The reality is that the only way to stop a ponzi, other than law enforcement or regulatory action, is to educate those who have yet to join. Stop (or slow) the flow of new money into the Ponzi! We can do that with this wonderful site and the other Heroes. The key to being successful in educating those thinking about joining the ponzi is to:

1. Show up on their radar - be on the first page of Google for the main keywords, LDO!
2. Be honest, forthright, credible, use logical analysis, facts when available, qu and ote Zeek Reward's own inconsistencies and deception, and never resort to name calling or any kind of forum vitriol. This is why we embrace the four Heroes above as they have a long history of fighting the good fight.

Progress Report - Mission #1, Day #1

We have some work to do here! Time to backlink, guest blog, +1, Facebook likes, Pinterest, and do whatever we can to improve these search rankings. Thankfully, BehindMLM is doing well on page 1. We need all 4 Heroes to show up on page 1!

Google rankings for keyword: "zeek rewards":

• BehindMLM: 7
• RealScam: None
• PatrickPretty: 46
• kschang.hubpages.com: 105

Google rankings for keyword: "zeekrewards":

• BehindMLM: 7
• RealScam: None
• PatrickPretty: 72
• kschang.hubpages.com: None

Google rankings for keyword: "zeek rewards scam":

• BehindMLM: 9
• RealScam: 148
• PatrickPretty: None
• kschang.hubpages.com: None

Mitch, keyword spamming is no longer the proper way to do SEO. We need news papers and TV stations and genuine highly trusted sources to pick up us and THAT would increase our rankings.

Don't forget your local Congressman/woman.

They simply cannot be expected to know what's going on "out there" and, I'm certain would appreciate their constituents help in identifying fraudulent operations stealing money out of the national accounts.

The representatives from North Carolina would doubtlessly be delighted to know they have such an about-to-become-world-leaders in their chosen field such as Zeek Rewards and Mr Paul Burks so close at hand.

After all, North Carolina was so proud of the fact it was, at one time, the home of Charis Johnson and 12 Daily Pro.

Being an out-of-towner, I'm not certain, but, I'm fairly certain they would have more than one form of media in Zeek Rewards' home in Lexington

How about Las Vegas ???

Wouldn't they like to know they have a celebrity in their midst ??

You also need to get all those who have had their accounts frozen, removed, or banned from the program that are owed money to file an online complaint with IC3: Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) | Home

If you can also get them to contact me at Eagle Research Associates, Inc. - Home Page, I will forward their information to our assigned agent with the federal law enforcement agencies (we work with more than one agency). The more who contact me and provide me their information, the more successful we will be with any investigations.

We also have a warning on our website under our Warnings, Alerts & Hot Topics link on our site about Zeek. We link to Kasey's excellent article and the article at behindMLM. I am also in the preparation of an updated article for our website. Just another source for people to read and learn. When the article is up, I will be promoting it on Twitter, our Facebook fanpage, and Google+.

To be honest, I think they are in their death knell stage right now. They have major issues and they are serious that could cause them to collapse before the end of July. Just my opinion.

I appreciate all your efforts and ideas on how to get the word out to the unknowing victims and keep people from becoming victims.

Mission #2 - Spreading the Word

We need to spread the word and direct those seeking information to our Heroes website, including realscam.com.

We need to reply on every blog post, article, Facebook group, forum... everywhere Zeek is mentioned, we need to encourage would-be Zeek prospects to simply DO THEIR RESEARCH. We are not spreading FUD. We are not fighting deception with deception. We are simply encouraging people to THINK for themselves.

An anonymous army of activists have been gathering. This is just the beginning: Zeek Rewards Youtube Video

Originally Posted by Mitch McDeere

How do we fight back against a Ponzi with an army of linguistically-programmed defenders who subconsciously and monetarily benefit as the Ponzi draws in more victims? We do it Legally, Anonymously (if you prefer), Morally, and Ethically. It is called the power of LAME as we will lay bare their lame attempts at deception with the viral power of the interwebs!

Are they using NLP? That is relatively harmless or are they using subliminal sound? I am off topic again but it is a subject which I would like to raise in the Science and Conspiracy thread soon and I hope that you will contribute. There is a very big difference between NLP and the use of subliminal sound.

Houdy Mitch, Welcome to RealScam.

I'm plagiarizing myself from something I posted over at Patrick's Place:

I realize the following is more or less an unknowable statistic but I wonder what the ratio is between the amount of money ZR has spent on the Gerry Nehras, Richard Waaks, and Keith Laggos’ of the world compared to the amount “earned” by the Todd Disners, “Team” Aaron and Shara, Jerry Napier, Trudy Gilmond and all the other serial ponzi/pyramid pimps that are either top grossing affiliates or employees of Zeek Rewards? I wonder if it’s possibly as low as 1 to 10? But I doubt it.


It amuses me that ponzi pimp Jerry Napier (if Dawn was being honest*) was the one who recommended Nehra, Waak and Laggos to ZR. It was a shrewd move by an experienced pro, hire top shelf legal (and consulting) talent who know where the line between zealously defending their clients interests and perjury really is and who have a proven track records of walking that line for a big enough paycheck. Please note that neither Nehra nor Waak have thus far issued any public statements Vis-a-vis Zeek Rewards and Laggos’ opinion is only his opinion. And there is reason to suspect that published opinion was largely ghost written (by Dawn**) and published in exchange for a large number of preordered copies of Mr. Laggos’s Network Marketing Business Journal.


A picture is developing, Zeek Rewards is accepting advice and counsel not only from MLM’s best and brightest but also from the ponzi world’s greediest and seediest. But I’m sure they know which side of their bread the butter is on.

* - From about five minutes into this Zeek Conference Call.

** - From Oz's May 18th post on his Behind MLM Blog from which I quote:

Dawn said she bought $100K worth of prints of NMBJ and Keith’s personal consulting time to review Zeekler for compliancy and in return Zeek gets good play in the mag. I would not call the coverage in NMBJ anything other than an advertorial it is not journalism – Keith’s name might be on the piece but Dawn wrote most of it.

Some of Zeek Rewards most prestigious and respected defenders have been promising updates and answers but they sure seem to be taking their own sweet time in publishing them. Until they do it's sorta important to make sure the best questions don't get forgotten. Just one example, Last April Paul Burks issued an official update on the ZeekRewards News site stating emphatically that the American Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) mandated that several countries with ZR members were under "sanctions" and therefore ZR had no choice in banning all members in those countries. Paul is a clumsy and easily disproven lair, yet somehow Zeek's highest profile advocates never hold him accountable. How many legitimate and sincere Zeek affiliates were removed from the program for no reason ZR leadership and management has ever been given any adequate motivation to explain?

I completely understand why Paul and Dawn are all too happy to keep issues like this one swept as far under a rug as possible but what is less clear to me is why so many people with a professed love for the MLM industry and for the people who try to make their living in it, let people like Paul and Dawn blur and threaten to erase the line between legitimate MLM and the HYIP/Ponzi world. And if all it takes to get respected industry advocates like Troy Dooly to shill for you is to pay retainers and consultant fees to Troy's friends and mentors then I am personally very disappointed in Mr. Dooly and very sad for anyone relying upon him for advice.

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

Are they using NLP? That is relatively harmless or are they using subliminal sound? I am off topic again but it is a subject which I would like to raise in the Science and Conspiracy thread soon and I hope that you will contribute. There is a very big difference between NLP and the use of subliminal sound.

NLP is a myth, a "woo" if you will.

NLP: Neuro-linguistic Programming

Originally Posted by kschang

NLP is a myth, a "woo" if you will.

NLP: Neuro-linguistic Programming

As is the supposed efficacy of "subliminal sound"

Originally Posted by littleroundman

As is the supposed efficacy of "subliminal sound"

Careful, I've had a ten second cassette tape loop repeating at subaudible levels while I sleep for most of the last year. The loop repeats "Glim is not a gibbering idiot" and while my overall idiocy score has yet to be affected I have confirmable statistics indicating a firm 5% decrease in overall gibbering.

I realize that the plural of anecdote is not data but results like this warrant more rigorous examination.

Local TV station got egg on face, pulled video puff piece of Zeekler where the reporter claimed NC AG office pronounced the company "legal".

BULLETIN: North Carolina Attorney General’s Office Refutes Suggestion That Zeek Has Been Deemed ‘Legal’; ‘We Do Have Concerns,’ Agency Says; TV Station Removes Video Report Zeek Was Linking To On Its Blog

Originally Posted by kschang

Mitch, keyword spamming is no longer the proper way to do SEO. We need news papers and TV stations and genuine highly trusted sources to pick up us and THAT would increase our rankings.

Have no fear my friends, you are in good hands with Mitch McDeere. As you know, there are ways to rank on the first page of Google with a powerful combination of link tiers using articles, press releases, web 2.0 sites, blog postings, home page link networks (post-Panda/Penguin), profiles, and blog comments. The key is to create real content, leveraging proper use of anchor text with diversity in backlinking, add in the proper LSI mix in the articles, and then sprinkle on some secret sauce automation techniques.

I will not rest until RealScam, BehindMLM, PatrickPretty, and kschang.hubpages.com all rank on the first page of Google for "Zeek Rewards".

We need to get the research in front of the prospects. Information is powerful! People are not stupid.... they just need enough information upon which they can act and to rebut the inane claims of the Zeek cultists.

Stay tuned... progress takes time but we will prevail!

Originally Posted by Mitch McDeere

Mission #2 - Spreading the Word

We need to spread the word and direct those seeking information to our Heroes website, including realscam.com.

We need to reply on every blog post, article, Facebook group, forum... everywhere Zeek is mentioned, we need to encourage would-be Zeek prospects to simply DO THEIR RESEARCH. We are not spreading FUD. We are not fighting deception with deception. We are simply encouraging people to THINK for themselves.

An anonymous army of activists have been gathering. This is just the beginning: Zeek Rewards Youtube Video

Highly promoted in Adlandpro/Scamlandpro by the leading Tennessee Lady named Person of the the Year, Mary Evelyn Simpson.

ZeekRewards - The Rewards Program of a Lifetime!

The 'friendly' little gathering place for her 22 thousand + "friends".
Mary Evelyn's Koffee Klatch | View Thread | AdlandPro Community

Who could refuse to not take this one seriously and buy into all those programs she advertises and promotes?

She is also spouting it out on Facebook now: https://www.facebook.com/maryevelyn.simpson

mySiselPro.com
mytsx.com

https://www.facebook.com/ZeekRewardsNews

They are all over Facebook!!

This was posted June 18 on their NXPay page:

Hello Fine People.

We are in the process of our Monday commission run as well as running any past due subscription runs through the “past due” payment pages set up in your ZeekRewards back office. As these past due months are paid the commissions pay up instantly, so please get the word out to your teams. We will begin this weeks claw-back in a couple of hours and we will be offering both Payza (formerly known as AlertPay) and STP for instant payments. As NXPay is our newest eWallet with the least amount of recyclable cashflow – there will be a delay in payments of approximately 5 business days.

We are in the process of bringing on board other payment solutions and getting information from STP as to the 3 states they are working out licensing with. The CEO of the company feels they are close to a solution and will be getting us information as she has it.

Thanks so much for all of your continued support.

Zeek

NXPay and Other Monday News

On that same website NXPay, they told that a newsreporter had stopped by and made a video about the Penny Auction, however the link that you click on does not take you there.

I did find the video here:
Latest Bidding Craze Based In Lexington | Video | digtriad.com

Latest Bidding Craze Based In Lexington

What if you could use a penny to buy an iPad? Turns out, you can, if you use an online penny auction. However, placing your bid will cost you more than pennies.

However, there is nothing in the video - unless my pc does not pick it up.

Finally found the article:

Popular Penny Auction Website Based In The Piedmont | digtriad.com

Written by
Liz Crawford

Very good link she posted:

Pyramid Schemes

Pyramid Schemes

The speaker claims that you can get rich, like him, by recruiting people to become distributors in an exciting new company. He explains that if you bring people into the business, and they recruit more people, you would earn a percentage of all of their sales.



You buy hundreds of dollars worth of the company's products on credit and become part of the speaker's “downline.” Not only is it impossible to sell the products you bought, but now even your friends and family are avoiding you.

The Law on Pyramid Schemes

Many companies that operate through network or multi-level marketing are in fact pyramid schemes. Promoters often claim that their program is legal because a product or service is offered. Under North Carolina law, a pyramid scheme is any plan in which a participant (1) pays money (2) for the chance to receive money (3) upon the introduction of new participants into the program.

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Local & State





Lexington, NC-- What if you could use a penny to buy an iPad? Turns out, you can, if you use an online penny auction. However, placing your bid will cost you more than pennies.

Here's how a penny auction works: An item is up for auction and people can bid online just one cent at a time. So the item is increased by one penny with each bid. Once the clock runs out, the last person to bid gets the items for what could be a few pennies.

But there's a catch.

You have to purchase your bids ahead of time. With the Lexington-based penny auction website, Zeekler, each bid cost you 65 cents. If you buy 100 bids that cost you $65.

That means, if you win an item in the penny auction, it may go for half the retail price or even more. However, you already spent $65 for your ability to place 100 bids.

Another catch with penny auctions, you cannot rely on that countdown clock.

"Each time somebody bids, the price goes up one cent and 20 seconds gets added to the clock so the auction continues as long as people want to bid and then when it's over, the last person who placed a bid wins the item for whatever number of pennies have been bid," explained Paul Burks, Zeekler owner.

Although, items may be posted for days, the action doesn't start until the end, since winning is all about being the last person to bid.

It's not easy to do, considering with every bid, 20 seconds is added to the clock. The bidding process goes on and on until people stop bidding and the clock runs out.

Burks told News 2 they are the number two penny auction website on the internet right now when it comes to traffic.

The North Carolina Attorney General's office told News 2 they have received a handful of complaints when it comes to Zeekler and their sister site, Zeek Rewards. A court has not yet ruled whether this operation is legal or illegal.

If you are unsure about buying merchandise from a retailer or operation, the NC Department of Justice recommends this website.

WFMY News 2

The video's been wiped as the reporter claimed that NC AG's office had pronounced ZR to be legal and it did no such thing.

Originally Posted by kschang

Mitch, keyword spamming is no longer the proper way to do SEO. We need news papers and TV stations and genuine highly trusted sources to pick up us and THAT would increase our rankings.

I agree with that 200% kasey. I was taught how to issue a press release by my deseased brother in law who was a Professor of journalism at City University.

The most important thing is not to say anything about yourself.

If the journalist is interested in what you say, he or she will find out who you are. My brother in law said that you introduce the subject then write four or five lines about what four, possibly five well known people have to say about the subject which you are introducing.

He was right. I wrote to a provincial news paper in 1977. The Sunday Times picked up the story, then The Sunday Telegraph and The Observer and to my amazement Yorkshire Television. The real spin that gave my employment agency a real boost was a three or four line comment in The Financial Times which said "Judy Hortin The best Known Supplier of Electronic Engineers in The Country Says"

I can not help feeling that somebody should try to break the news about Jill Bachman, Carol Salisbury and other MLMers who are trading on the name of Nobel Prize winning scientists to hawk anti ageing products. You would think that their attempts to hawk ASD would have taught them the error of their ways but apparantly not.

Jill's Folly

Originally Posted by kschang

The video's been wiped as the reporter claimed that NC AG's office had pronounced ZR to be legal and it did no such thing.

Thanks ks, you seem to have been working with this for some time now. Sure glad you joined up here and I am with you, the more we expose this, the better.
Zeek Rewards confirm $100,000s in fraud occurring | BehindMLM

Found that through a Google search.

http://amlmskeptic.blogspot.com/

Nice blog also.

Thanks to Zeek team for full disclosure. I would venture to guess that those putting this down as a scam haven't read it. For everyone else, I too joined this. I've got thousands in loads of other stuff I've tried over the last 5 years with only nominal success. In only two weeks, I'm starting to make real money. It,'s not a scam and it's not a ponzi. It's profit sharing from the net revenues of the Zeekler online auction which we buy and give bids to users. That's only one of seven ways to make money on this. I am elated. This came just in time!

Originally Posted by Stockette

Thanks to Zeek team for full disclosure. I would venture to guess that those putting this down as a scam haven't read it. For everyone else, I too joined this. I've got thousands in loads of other stuff I've tried over the last 5 years with only nominal success. In only two weeks, I'm starting to make real money. It,'s not a scam and it's not a ponzi. It's profit sharing from the net revenues of the Zeekler online auction which we buy and give bids to users. That's only one of seven ways to make money on this. I am elated. This came just in time!

Stockette, welcome to the forum. I take it that you have not been in one of these type of programs before based on your comments. If I am mistaken, please forgive me. I understand your enthusiasm for the program, but I must ask what makes you think we have not read the material presented by Zeek?

If you have successfully bid on a product, what was your total cost to win the bid? Not what the winning bid amount was, but your total cost: Your total costs of buying your bids, the number of bids you made and their cost and then the winning bid amount. These are costs that most of the members of Zeek never take into consideration as to what the winning bid really did cost them, and you must also add in shipping costs. Take your total costs and subtract it from the retail cost of the item. Then you will know if you really got a deal or were had.

You see most of the winning bids when all the costs are added up far exceed the retail price of the product you were bidding on. This is the norm, not the exception to the rule. I also think you are overlooking all the internal problems Zeek is having and they are not minor.

But we do appreciate your posting and hope you will do so again.

Originally Posted by Stockette

In only two weeks, I'm starting to make real money

Welcome to the forum, Stockette.

Have you been able to transfer any of your "real money" into your bank account, or is it only "real" in your back office so far ???

IOW, are we talking "numbers on a screen" or "money in your pocket" here ??

You say you've been in the program for around 2 weeks.

At 1 or 2% per day, how many days do you calculate it will take before you have covered the amount you deposited and move into "profit" and how many more days will it take before you have the money in your hand ??