Bogdan Fiedur (owner of scam & ponzi promoting site - Adlandpro)Threatening RS and Critics Again!!!

[scratchycat]

Sorry to break in here guys, love the subject of panties or knickers whatever...

The Monday morning edition of Scamland:


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[Soapboxmom]

www.realscamclassactionsuit.com now resolves into this dishonest solicitation:


Bogdan Fiedur’s Adlandpro Scam or a Dark Horse in Online Advertising


Adlandpro Offers Free Advertising for Online Entrepreneurs to Earn Passive Income

Adlandpro.com, run by Canadian entrepreneur and CEO Bogdan Fiedur, is a social network that offers free traffic to Internet entrepreneurs and affiliates through a free ad posting service. Bogdan Fiedur, a computer programmer turned startup CEO, created Adlandpro to serve as a community for people interested in online advertising, Internet marketing, and affiliate marketing. Adlandpro has provided expert guidance to both new and experienced Internet marketers for 13 years.

Social Network Advertising Experiences Competition from Free Ad Community
As of 2011, $1.42 billion was spent on US social network advertising; $1.52 billion is expected to be spent in 2012 alone. This amount is projected to increase to $1.64 billion as of 2013. Yet social network ad spend is on the decline compared to total online ad spend, dropping from 4.4% in 2007 to 4.1% in 2012. Social network ad spend is expected to fall to 3.9% by 2013.
Although roughly two thirds of adults in the US regularly use social media, an equal amount of social media users in both the US and Britain prefer not to be targeted by large companies on primary social networks, including Facebook and Twitter.
For many small e-commerce business owners and affiliate marketers, this has cut into their income significantly. For Internet marketers that have spent money on social media advertising, the return is not always worth the initial investment.
While social networks may have once been an ideal place to advertise several years ago when social media marketing was booming, today affiliate marketers and online entrepreneurs must reassess their advertising tactics.
For this reason, free ad programs that offer free traffic sources, like Adlandpro, are becoming more popular. Adlandpro has been established longer than popular social networks, such as Facebook, MySpace, and Twitter. Adlandpro attracts members through an exclusive social community that offers advanced privacy protection to all users.
After joining, Adlandpro members have the opportunity to post free advertisements within the social network and even become verified affiliates in order to earn passive income. Adlandpro affiliates can earn monthly revenue from autoresponder subscribers, surf exchange credit purchases, premium classified ad purchases, premium member purchases, and banner ad purchases.
According to one satisfied community member and Adlandpro affiliate, "I first signed up as an Adland Affiliate back in August, 1998 and since that time your excellent proactive website has sent more targeted traffic to my site than any other, with the exception of perhaps the top 6 search engines on which I am listed.”

Beginner Advertisers Welcome
Many advertisers on social networks like Facebook often complain about the difficulties of getting an ad approved. Ads may be rejected again and again based on strict criteria, causing significant delays in an advertising campaign.
Adlandpro has tailored their social community to cater to both beginner and advanced online advertisers. Upon signing up for a free membership, Adlandpro members will receive a free tutorial in how to write a compelling advertisement using ethical tactics to generate both traffic and income.
Those who are new to Internet marketing can join Adlandpro free of charge without any intimidation in order to learn the basics of free online advertising. Adlandpro provides extensive step-by-step tutorials to all members who have signed up for the free program.

Advanced Advertising Capabilities
Larger businesses can use the free ad program designed by CEO Bogdan Fiedur to test and track ad campaigns before backing them with large ad spend. If a business has used the Adlandpro free ads successfully and wishes to scale their ad campaign, they can take advantage of Adlandpro Premium Services.
Adlandpro Premium Services provide several different methods to promote online ad campaigns using renewable ads, search engine submissions, banner impressions, and traffic exchange.
According to one Adlandpro member, “We have advertised with MANY companies including: Yahoo, Excite, PcWorld, Cgi-Resources, TheGlobe, etc.. And we have been much more pleased with your service/support than we have been with any of these giants of the net. Your personal touch and quick responses are wonderful and we're having a great time advertising with you and AdLandPro.”
Another Adlandpro community member verifies, "Adlandpro has been a successful advertising medium for me, and I've spent more in other advertising with very poor if any results.”
For both individual entrepreneurs and large businesses, Adlandpro provides a means to successfully advertise at little to no cost compared to larger online advertising mediums.

Adlandpro Traffic and Statistics
Adlandpro has a three month global Alexa traffic ranking of 7,549. Since Adlandpro was launched by Bogdan Fiedur 13 years ago, it has earned a five-star Alexa review rating. Alexa users confirm that Adlandpro is a user-friendly, active community with quality content and reliable customer support.
Adlandpro member John Sanchez states in his Alexa review, “I've been a member of AdlandPro since March of 2005 and I must say that AdlandPro is the best community on the Internet. I belong to several communities on the Net and none come close to it. AdlandPro has the friendliest people on the Net. There quite of few people there that are experts in Network Marketing and they offer their services for free. The CEO of the AdlandPro, Bogdan Fiedur, has made it possible for us members to advertise our businesses for free in several ways. So if you have a business you want to advertise or you just want to meet nice people come to AdlandPro!”
Adlandpro community members can take advantage of free advertising on classified and community pages, as well as free traffic exchange ads that target 120,000 users. Members will receive free business leads through the Adlandpro community network and a free subscription to the Adland Digest Newsletter.
Adlandpro affiliates can earn up to $10,000 per month through the verified affiliate program. According to one Adlandpro affiliate, "I was worried about spending for the cost of that ad, but it was a much better price than I had expected for the amount of traffic that comes in! I earn $30 per sale of the service I'm advertising, and I made back the cost almost immediately! I have tracking for my site and every day AdlandPro showed up consistently as the place where people clicked! It brought in 50% of my traffic! I post a great deal of ads on Yahoo and send to dozens of opt-in lists every day and post to bulletin boards, even with all of that, the AdlandPro button-ad attracted 50% of my hits!”
Adlandpro community members can access free classified advertising, networking, marketing, promotion, and earning opportunities. Adlandpro was designed based on the vision of CEO Bogdan Fiedur, who lives by the motto, "Whatever you do, do it with passion.” Bogdan Fiedur has passionately committed himself for more than a decade to providing both free and inexpensive online advertising solutions to all members within the Adlandpro community.
For free advertising and free traffic opportunities, you can visit Adlandpro directly at www.adlandpro.com (http://www.adlandpro.com/) to join the community at no charge. You can also call 1-866-254-7228 toll-free in the US and Canada for further information.



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Facebook still has a lot of garbage ads for MLM scams, cash gifting, forex scams and much more, but they do police the ads and porn, prostitution solicitations, possible human trafficking, illegal pharmacy ads, used underwear ads, and the obivious scams littering Adlandpro are not there. Adlandpro has no standards and makes no effort to keep the public safe. No legitimate businesses will touch that cesspool with a ten foot pole! It is also quite nice one stop shopping for enforcement agencies looking for the next case.

Adlandpro after 13 years has 172,000 members. Facebook has 750,000,000. Is that zero disease out of remission, Bogdan? Are you sure the infighting among members, your slam sites publicly threatening and harassing members, your threatening e-mails, your fake law students posting outright lies and threats, and your high priced London attorney(though he seems to have disappeared into the woodwork) are not intimidation in its most vile and twisted form???

Soapboxmom

[scratchycat]

Wonder how Mark Zuckerber would react to the claim that FB got its ideas from Adlandpro??

https://www.facebook.com/#!/zuck


It's no news that social networks are a great place to advertise any business while establishing new friends and business contacts but, who really started it all? I don't really know the answer to this but I do know that since 2003, I've been a member of Adlandpro with Facebook, Myspace, Apsense and the likes not even having been created yet. Could it be they were all created because of what I like to call my little Gem?

One of the most important reasons why this little gem out shines the other social networks you may be currently involved in is the level of privacy protection you get as a member. Something that what I call "The Guru Networks" seem to be lacking in these days. Oh and lets not even mention that to this date, advertising with Adlandpro doesn't have to cost you one red cent. Try doing that with "TGN" (The Guru Networks). lol

For those of you who like to just read blogs or view websites that can only earn you money (Foolish Thinking), Adlandpro is also one of the first places I ever discovered that you can earn a good passive income from without investing one single red cent. Can you do that with TGN? Of course not! All they want is the advertising revenue you'll supply them with as marketers.

I can also add without any shame what-so-ever that, Adlandpro was one of the sites I wanted to sort of follow in the footsteps of when I created my own earn without cost opportunity!

[scratchycat]

Wonder if Maurice put up the "used panties" as an ad???!!!

[Whip]

Wonder how Mark Zuckerber would react to the claim that FB got its ideas from Adlandpro??

https://www.facebook.com/#!/zuck

Well, again, the fact that they think they invented messageboards (that's all it is folks) is as funny as Gore claiming he invented the internet.
I'm sure they all came from alt.sell-my-garbage.

[Soapboxmom]

Let's help Boggy with his advertising:467

Now, isn't that nice?

Soapboxmom

[path2prosperity]

John Sanches was Adland's best known "Christian," He promoted his faith with the passion of a true believer. He ranted and raved about the "rapture" and he was not slow in pointing out that agnostics like me would be very severely punished by his "God.", if they did not convert to Christ. John's upright religious principles were an example to born again Christians in Adlandpro. He was the spiritual leader of the fundamentalist Christian community within Adland.

Is John Sanches aware that Bogdan Fiedur has used his name to whitewash the Adlandpro Community in his diatribe against RealScam? This is a chance for John to lead Adlanders to THE TRUTH.

I QUOTE

"Adlandpro member John Sanchez states in his Alexa review, “I've been a member of AdlandPro since March of 2005 and I must say that AdlandPro is the best community on the Internet. I belong to several communities on the Net and none come close to it. AdlandPro has the friendliest people on the Net. There quite of few people there that are experts in Network Marketing and they offer their services for free. The CEO of the AdlandPro, Bogdan Fiedur, has made it possible for us members to advertise our businesses for free in several ways. So if you have a business you want to advertise or you just want to meet nice people come to AdlandPro!”

Please will John's Adland and Ex-Adland friends draw his attention to this thread and ask him to comment. If he is a Christian he can start threads about "The Rapture" and his fundamentalist beliefs in many forums. If his Christian virtues have been exploited by Fiedur, HE SHOULD BE THE FIRST KNOW ABOUT IT. (Please pass this message on to him, if you are in touch with him.) Is John Sanches a Christian or a scammer of the worst ilk?

[scratchycat]

P2P, I almost begged John Sanchez to come back to Adlandpro but he had other things to do. I believe John is working at a real job and has not returned to Adland for any length of time. He is in FB and still a friend. I think he learned his lesson with Adland and did not want to return.

John is an okay guy and wants no part of Adlandpro.

[scratchycat]

Is John Sanches aware that Bogdan Fiedur has used his name to whitewash the Adlandpro Community in his diatribe against RealScam? This is a chance for John to lead Adlanders to THE TRUTH.

I simply doubt it, P2P. I will try to let him know.

[Whip]

John Sanches was Adland's best known "Christian," He promoted his faith with the passion of a true believer. He ranted and raved about the "rapture" and he was not slow in pointing out that agnostics like me would be very severely punished by his "God.", if they did not convert to Christ. John's upright religious principles were an example to born again Christians in Adlandpro. He was the spiritual leader of the fundamentalist Christian community within Adland.

Is John Sanches aware that Bogdan Fiedur has used his name to whitewash the Adlandpro Community in his diatribe against RealScam? This is a chance for John to lead Adlanders to THE TRUTH.

I QUOTE

"Adlandpro member John Sanchez states in his Alexa review, “I've been a member of AdlandPro since March of 2005 and I must say that AdlandPro is the best community on the Internet. I belong to several communities on the Net and none come close to it. AdlandPro has the friendliest people on the Net. There quite of few people there that are experts in Network Marketing and they offer their services for free. The CEO of the AdlandPro, Bogdan Fiedur, has made it possible for us members to advertise our businesses for free in several ways. So if you have a business you want to advertise or you just want to meet nice people come to AdlandPro!”

Please will John's Adland and Ex-Adland friends draw his attention to this thread and ask him to comment. If he is a Christian he can start threads about "The Rapture" and his fundamentalist beliefs in many forums. If his Christian virtues have been exploited by Fiedur, HE SHOULD BE THE FIRST KNOW ABOUT IT. (Please pass this message on to him, if you are in touch with him.) Is John Sanches a Christian or a scammer of the worst ilk?

He's another hypocrit. You can't tell me he doesn't know about the porn being advertised right there with his own crap. And if he doesn't, he should be made aware of it and let's see him lay into the bog for embarrassing him.

[path2prosperity]

Let's help Boggy with his advertising:467

Now, isn't that nice?

Soapboxmom

I love it SBM. I have copied it up to my server but I would appreciate some help enlarging the image. I have updated my "libelous" adlandpro web page which will make it even more libelous when Boggie finds a solicitor to act for him against me. I have also finished my review of money making forums web site. The affiliates and business opportunities pages are almost finished and the picture will be in prime of place. A bigger picture appeal for my domain/Scamlandpro.

[scratchycat]

Well, again, the fact that they think they invented messageboards (that's all it is folks) is as funny as Gore claiming he invented the internet.
I'm sure they all came from alt.sell-my-garbage.

I agree and Adlandpro does not come close to being a likeness of FaceBook. At least it is controlled.

[littleroundman]

I love it SBM. I have copied it up to my server but I would appreciate some help enlarging the image.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scamvertising.jpg

[Soapboxmom]

He's another hypocrit. You can't tell me he doesn't know about the porn being advertised right there with his own crap. And if he doesn't, he should be made aware of it and let's see him lay into the bog for embarrassing him.
If he is a devout Christian, he is going to be quite offended by Scamlandpro's salacious content. Charming stuff!!! It will be quite amusing to watch the social members try to explain away where the real traffic is coming from! Of course, many won't have the cahones to tell Bogdan to shove it. They will very quietly slink away. Bye, bye Scamlandpro posters and traffic!

Soapboxmom

[Soapboxmom]

I love it SBM. I have copied it up to my server but I would appreciate some help enlarging the image. I have updated my "libelous" adlandpro web page which will make it even more libelous when Boggie finds a solicitor to act for him against me. I have also finished my review of money making forums web site. The affiliates and business opportunities pages are almost finished and the picture will be in prime of place. A bigger picture appeal for my domain/Scamlandpro.
Thanks! We girls have to have some fun once in a while. I have in fact communicated with the law firm that sent the threatening letter. As you never heard back from them at all and I haven't heard anything in a week, I suspect Bogdan has already been fired as a client. That would explain him conjuring up the provably fake UCLA law students. Otherwise, everyone would know he makes he legal decisions thanks to very inept personal Google searches about topics which he is clearly incapable of understanding. I have a degree in secondary and higher education. One area I focused on was reading and reasoning beyond the primary grades, so perhaps a term in my homeschool class would be beneficial for Boggy!

Soapboxmom

[path2prosperity]

P2P, I almost begged John Sanchez to come back to Adlandpro but he had other things to do. I believe John is working at a real job and has not returned to Adland for any length of time. He is in FB and still a friend. I think he learned his lesson with Adland and did not want to return.

John is an okay guy and wants no part of Adlandpro.

I want to believe that too "scratchy". I am not a friend of Sanches but I recognise him as one of the most powerful VOICES in Adland and I will join you in "almost begging him" to return. If he is being used by Bogdan he should be the one to testify on his own behalf. This is what I wish to say to members about Sanches.

If Adland's John Sanches is a Christian member of any prosltysising religious sect, he should be delighted by an invitation to bear withess to that fact here. Lynne,Scratchy and Luella May (an ex-Adlander and RS member) make their beliefs plain but it does not prevent all three of them from showing friendship to those who have doubts about their message. Chrisianity is a monotheistic religion. Pagan religions like Hinduism believe in the existence of many Gods but they are not proselytizing religions. It makes sense for a scammer to assume the mantle of Christianity and encourage followers to spread the word. I can not embrace the concept of monotheism but I have friends on and off line who come from the three biggist monotheistic religions.

Trevor Cook, the brains behind CEP autosurf and the CEP payment processor, studied and quoted The Bible with the intention of deceiving his flock of sheep and he got caught. He is serving a 25 year jail sentence. More details and and a quality mug shot can be obtained from Patrick Pretty. Trevor Cook (http://www.patrickpretty.com/2010/08/24/bulletin-trevor-cook-sentenced-to-25-years-in-federal-prison-victims-lost-at-least-158-million-in-international-forex-ponzi-scheme-that-traded-on-religion/) I brought this story to the attention od Adlanders when I joined them in 2010 after a long absence. I was surprised how few Adlanders expressed horror at the news of this "antichrist." The subject appeared to have been hushed up. Adland News (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2416820/TrevorCookFounderofCEPprocessorandCEPSurfprogramsj .aspx?flag=8).

I have not seen posts made by Bogdan Fiedur declaring that he is a Roman Catholic but people tell me that he has done that. Bogdan makes no bones about his support for polytheistic (pagan) religious beliefs on Adland's Mountain of Love forum created by Jill Bachman and in his new age web site. Jill's Journey (http://www.newageu.com/members/Journeyer.aspx)

I was rather surprised to see that John Sanches had joined Bogdan's web site for pagan believers. Scratchy and Luella kept well away. When I saw that Sanches had been quoted as the one to give reliable testimonials for Adland, I decided to ask John to speak about his beliefs here. I will make a final appeal to John.

Please come in here John to set the matter straight. Do you still recommend Fiedur's advertising service for Christians? Please explain how you embrace Christianity and the pagan New Age group developed by Bachman and Bogdan

[littleroundman]

Trevor Cook, the brains behind CEP autosurf and the CEP payment processor,

You've got Trevor Cook confused with Trevor E Reed and Clayton Kimbrell who were behind the Colon End Parenthesis (CEP) autosurf scam.

Reed was a student of the Southeastern Baptist Theological (http://www.sebts.edu/)Seminary (http://www.sebts.edu/)at the time

[scratchycat]

let's help boggy with his advertising:467

now, isn't that nice?

Soapboxmom

very nice, sbm!!

[path2prosperity]

You've got Trevor Cook confused with Trevor E Reed and Clayton Kimbrell who were behind the Colon End Parenthesis (CEP) autosurf scam.

Reed was a student of the Southeastern Baptist Theological (http://www.sebts.edu/)Seminary (http://www.sebts.edu/)at the time

I don't think so LRM. Trevor Cook went down for 25 years and that is confirmed by PatrickPretty (http://www.patrickpretty.com/2010/08/24/bulletin-trevor-cook-sentenced-to-25-years-in-federal-prison-victims-lost-at-least-158-million-in-international-forex-ponzi-scheme-that-traded-on-religion/)

I know CEP too well for my liking. I may have muddled up the pecking order in their GOD SQUAD ranks. I think Cook was higher up the scale than Reed or Kimbrill buy I am too busy to check that out just now. Cook tried to get the law on me. Another long story. I think I will have to open a thread for that one.

[scratchycat]

Please come in here John to set the matter straight. Do you still recommend Fiedur's advertising service for Christians? Please explain how you embrace Christianity and the pagan New Age group developed by Bachman and Bogdan

Not sure if you have contacted John Sanchez but I did send him a message in FB. He is working (I think) fulltime now and from what I have seen over the years, he is not much for online wars. You have given him a chance and he has been notified about this thread. I hope he shows up. You knew him well before I did but when he & Pauline ran the POTW and Foto contest, it was done fair IMO. He tried to be a Goodwill Ambassador after he gave up the POTW but the 'gang' would slaughter him every time he came back in. It is probably still there somewhere.

So this Julian Weider has fled the coup??? Hope it costs a pretty penny for his letter.

[path2prosperity]

Not sure if you have contacted John Sanchez.

I have not but I will now that you tell me that he is in the Facebook group.

He could be very diplomatic and helpful but he found it hard to accept that "We Foreigners" do not always accept Christ or USA as Alimighty forces. He was born Mexican so he is ultra passionate about his adopted fatherland. That makes a lot of sense to me.

Our Prince Charles leans towards some NewAge thinking. He has stated that he wants to be crowned as "defender of faiths" as opposed to defender of "the faith" It is hard to know how people like Prince Charles and John Sanches can be sympathetic with polytheistic (pagan) religions and remain Christians which is a monothestic religion.

He was probably the most influential person Adpro has ever had, so it seems right that he takes the witness stand and gets cross questioned first. Bogdan tells potential legal representative that Sanches vouches for Adlandpro as the best online advertising service. WHAT DOES SANCHES HAVE TO SAY?

[Soapboxmom]

So this Julian Weider has fled the coup??? Hope it costs a pretty penny for his letter.
We have no confirmation, but as Judy has never heard back after responding to the single letter sent and I have not heard from them in over a week that is a logical conclusion to draw. Bogdan's Realtruthorg.webs.com with his provably fake law students that he is clearly behind and his other many online meltdowns and lie-filled attacks would scare off reputable attorneys. Boggy the Blowhard appears beyond help to me. The first order of business would have been for him to :zip it:. Hilariously, it is way too late for that brilliant tactic. LOL!!!!

Soapboxmom

[scratchycat]

We have no confirmation, but as Judy has never heard back after responding to the single letter sent and I have not heard from them in over a week that is a logical conclusion to draw. Bogdan's Realtruthorg.webs.com with his provably fake law students that he is clearly behind and his other many online meltdowns and lie-filled attacks would scare off reputable attorneys. Boggy the Blowhard appears beyond help to me. The first order of business would have been for him to :zip it:. Hilariously, it is way too late for that brilliant tactic. LOL!!!!

Soapboxmom

Thanks for update SBM and that was my advice from the beginning but temper got in way.

P2P, it is beyond my knowledge on that one. I don't see why John would verify how great and CLEAN Adlandpro is now but you never know people either.

[path2prosperity]

Thanks for update SBM and that was my advice from the beginning but temper got in way.

P2P, it is beyond my knowledge on that one. I don't see why John would verify how great and CLEAN Adlandpro is now but you never know people either.

Boggy has quoted John's testimonial on the RealTruth web site. He may have said that at some stage. Boggy was a successful scammer in the early days but he has passed his "sell by date. the news will reach John Sanches soon enough.

[path2prosperity]

We have no confirmation, but as Judy has never heard back after responding to the single letter sent and I have not heard from them in over a week that is a logical conclusion to draw. Bogdan's Realtruthorg.webs.com with his provably fake law students that he is clearly behind and his other many online meltdowns and lie-filled attacks would scare off reputable attorneys. Boggy the Blowhard appears beyond help to me. The first order of business would have been for him to :zip it:. Hilariously, it is way too late for that brilliant tactic. LOL!!!!

Soapboxmom

I have little or no legal knowledge but there are plenty of members of my family who do. Boggie probably believed Internet yarns that Judy has mental health problems and that SBM was nothing but a bored housewife. I have assured him that he is wrong on those two premises on this web page (http://path2prosperity.com/business_opportunities.html). Please scroll down the page if you want to see the comment that attacking SBM was effectively meeting his Wateloo.

I suggest that we move on to Apsense now to learn who wins Adland awards in that social community.

[Soapboxmom]

RS traffic just keeps increasing. And, in case Boggy should forget, we have just 700 members and growing. His paltry traffic is for a site with 172,000 members. Its sinking like a rock Bogdan. Bye, bye scamvertising revenue!!!


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[littleroundman]

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[path2prosperity]

The first order of business would have been for him to :zip it:. Hilariously, it is way too late for that brilliant tactic. LOL!!!!

Soapboxmom

Not so sure that zipping the lip, is the best course of action in all cases SBM. Bachman and Carol Salisbury have zipped it and we know that those two are zipped up in Bowdoin's pocket with not much hope of vanishing into thin air. If Boggy zips his lips, most people will assume that he is in another person's pay!

If he spouts crap he will be a laughing stock for a few days but it will be good evidence that he is in nobody's pocket.

[Soapboxmom]

Since Scamlandpro has had traffic on the decline all year, perhaps Boggy should consider a new line of work. Judging from his latest incarnation of the RS class action suit site, I am sure I have found it. He can star in the Troll Hunter 2. He might as well go full out Rotten Tomatoes material as he has nothing to lose after his reputation ruining slam sites and fake law students debacles.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLEo7H9tqSM

Soapboxmom

[EagleOne]

I was reading an article by an Internet attorney and he mentioned that one tactic many people use is to hire a big-name law firm to draft a letter for them to send to someone they are having a dispute with. The theory being when they see the big-name law firm they will collapse in fear, be intimidated, and comply with whatever the letter is demanding them to do.

He went on to say while that works in some cases, you have the exception where the person is not intimidated and either ignores the letter or fights back. Then the person who paid for the letter has a dilemma on their hands. Do they then hire the big-name firm to actualy represent them and take the matter further or fold and run.

Kind of ironic don't you think? Guess which one happened to Bogdan? Guess he didn't learn that you have to "back it up with real action" rather than just trying to intimidate people into compliance. Oh well, some learn the hard way. :RpS_laugh:

[littleroundman]

I was reading an article by an Internet attorney and he mentioned that one tactic many people use is to hire a big-name law firm to draft a letter for them to send to someone they are having a dispute with. The theory being when they see the big-name law firm they will collapse in fear, be intimidated, and comply with whatever the letter is demanding them to do.

He went on to say while that works in some cases, you have the exception where the person is not intimidated and either ignores the letter or fights back. Then the person who paid for the letter has a dilemma on their hands. Do they then hire the big-name firm to actualy represent them and take the matter further or fold and run.

Kind of ironic don't you think? Guess which one happened to Bogdan? Guess he didn't learn that you have to "back it up with real action" rather than just trying to intimidate people into compliance. Oh well, some learn the hard way. :RpS_laugh:

The situation is even worse for the Bogmeister.

He now has loyal, albeit naive, members fully expecting him to follow through with his threats.

Fun and frivolity aside, it's obvious to me there are still Adland members who DO genuinely believe Adland is legit.

On the other hand, Boggie knows only too well what will happen if he DOES follow through and this silly saga makes it into a court.

Imagine, for just one minute, the atmosphere in a courtroom when the judge asks the Bogmeister to explain how his forum remains a "legitimate" family friendly community while advertising used womens' underwear.

ROCK meet HARDPLACE.

[path2prosperity]

I was reading an article by an Internet attorney and he mentioned that one tactic many people use is to hire a big-name law firm to draft a letter for them to send to someone they are having a dispute with. The theory being when they see the big-name law firm they will collapse in fear, be intimidated, and comply with whatever the letter is demanding them to do.

He went on to say while that works in some cases, you have the exception where the person is not intimidated and either ignores the letter or fights back. Then the person who paid for the letter has a dilemma on their hands. Do they then hire the big-name firm to actualy represent them and take the matter further or fold and run.

Kind of ironic don't you think? Guess which one happened to Bogdan? Guess he didn't learn that you have to "back it up with real action" rather than just trying to intimidate people into compliance. Oh well, some learn the hard way. :RpS_laugh:

Boggie hired a big name law law firm in Cavendish Square London W1 but My deceased father and uncle's law firm is located in Albermarle Street, London WI which is only a stone's throw away. Lindus and Hortin may not be as big a name as Howard Kennedy but Boggie does not know how small the West End of London is. The family firm Lindus and Hortin had some important clients. They were solicitors for Harrods and may still be! Either way Boggie made a fool of himself. My nephew practices law a few blocks away. Silly BoggyBoy. this is a small island.

[littleroundman]

Either way Boggie made a fool of himself.

More like:

"enhanced his already existing reputation as a fool"

[path2prosperity]

The situation is even worse for the Bogmeister.
Imagine, for just one minute, the atmosphere in a courtroom when the judge asks the Bogmeister to explain how his forum remains a "legitimate" family friendly community while advertising used womens' underwear.

ROCK meet HARDPLACE.

I have even suggested a defence for Boggie. HE COULD TRY SAYING the used underwear was for silly pet owners who bought their dog's Christmas presents! Please try it on Boggie. Pantomime season in West End of London goes on till March. Men's underpants are a delicious cozy place for ferrets. I have been assured that a pet ferret that runs up it's owners trouser leg does not bite delicate anatomical parts.

[path2prosperity]

When I got the letter from Fiedur, I had no idea whether Howard Kennedy or the law firm founded by my grandfather (Lindus and Hortin) was the more important within the legal eagle pecking order. I googled Harrods to see if Lindus and Hortin were still solicitors for Harrods yesterday and could not find the answer there. However, it is immaterial so I will not dwell on that.

What I do know is that I had spoken to a well known libel lawyer about an entirely different matter in 1988, Peter Carter Ruck (who was certainly a big name libel solicitor.) Mr. Carter Ruck told me that the issue was how important are you and how far has this libel spread. I am not important in the British social pecking order and I have kept my Internet Presence “on ice” since Bob Krimm absconded with the money which I had earned playing autosurf games on The Net. It did not amount to much as British pensions don't provide enough for our citizens to spend more than peanuts from their pensions on "betting money."

Those of you who remember the Krimm era, know what upset Krimm and his associate James Miranda. + Director of Opperations (Rhonda something or other) but she is known to most of you as "Brookie." I had published a web page KRIMM VIDEOS (http://path2prosperity.com/krimm_videos.html) which made Krimm a laughing stock. Krimm nearly exploded. Brookie and the rest of the Krimm mods issued threats to sue me for libelling Krimm. The writ for libel in that publication, has not arrived YET. "Terry the Banker or Wxxxxx” and others issued similar threats, so when Fiedur got round to it, the matter was old hat to me.

I do not know if Fiedur knows the Bob Krimminal and Nickers Smirnow history but it is very probable that they or their mods are lurking in Adland or Apsense with different user names. I have a very strong suspicion that a Krimm mod has registered as a new member on RS but I will not libel a new RS member by mentioning him or her by name. If the member who wanted answers based on facts only with no embellishment or speculation is not The Krimm mod, jerry1503 (or a similar number), I will apologize profusely.

How important is Boggie Boy in Canadian society? How far has libel about Boggie spread? It will spread a great deal further if his name and the names of his henchmen are published on WLD as anything there gets to the search engines in double quick time.

More importantly good coverage on WLD is far and away the best way to get the names of those who were innocent victims of the Krimm’s, Smirnow and Fiedurs above the radar and vindicated.

[Soapboxmom]

Boggy may be calling it libel, but the rest of the inhabitants of the planet that have an IQ exceeding their shoe size can plainly see it is the facts and the scathing commentary that he has just begged for. We just need to keep giving Boggy rope. He is doing a superb job of hanging himself. He sure is going to look swell in a troll catchers costume!!!!

Soapboxmom

[path2prosperity]

Is Boggy in control of the place anymore of have "The Generals" taken over?

It is odd that the solicitor's letter which I received complained about gross libel against Bachman and Bernier. Bachman is the most loquatious of the Generals spouting Mountain of Love messages ad nauseum. Bernier is recruiting an army at Apsense. VonBeenkom claims to be the "oldest" who has been there since 1998. Jimbo has started his new 12Secondcommute community and Fogel claims to have done no Internet marketing for yonks!

Is BoggyBoy really in charge or is he just a figurehead?

[path2prosperity]

I have discovered some rather nice images that you can use to make Christmas cards for BoggyBoy. I hope to have a few up here before Christmas but you can see them on a forum known as Ex Adlanders. There are not many of BoggyBoys supporters who have joined Ex Adlanders but there are plenty of RS members.

Please choose from the selection of images supplied by the webmaster and make some Christmas cards for your least favourite "Internet Friends" Available free from Ex Adlanders (http://afcw.net/exadlanders).

[oldcoot]

This is a truly sad stream. I have always had the greatest respect for Bogdan Fiedur and really do not see that any of this stream has been at the behest of Bogdan.
My impression is that Bogdan has lost control of Adland Pro and is his own victim. There is no way that such an intelligent person would issue such instructions.

[path2prosperity]

This is a truly sad stream. I have always had the greatest respect for Bogdan Fiedur and really do not see that any of this stream has been at the behest of Bogdan.
My impression is that Bogdan has lost control of Adland Pro and is his own victim. There is no way that such an intelligent person would issue such instructions.

I have said that Bogdan has lost control of Adland for a long time "oldcoot." Bachman and Bernier seem to be in control whilst Fiedur is nothing but a figure head. Exactly the same situation Vee and Mara. Mara contlrolled VLane not Vee.

You made a post about Bachman's involvement with The Humanitarian Bank and that convinced me that the woman had the controlling interest in Adlandpro. I will find the link to cross reference it here.

[path2prosperity]

I have found the post which "old coot" made about Jill Bachman's involvement with The Humanitarian Bank in RS in February. BoggyBoy is no innocent but this woman seems to be in charge of operations now. The woman remains silent while Boggy, Bernier, VanBeenkom, Jimbo and Fogel twist and shout. I think Bachman needs much more thorough investigation.

"Oldcoot's" questions about Bachman.

QUOTE

This is a really sad thread and I am so disappointed that a man for whom I had great respect and who has been extremely helpful to me seems to have abandoned his skill set and joined the sludge sucking crowd at interspam networks and been a factor in the demise of what should have been a fantastic social site.
It is disgusting that Jill Bachman is using the Humanitarian Bank as part of her con trick. The Humanitarian Bank is a genuine entity that allows people to donate money in order to provide African charities and social organisations with a ready source of funds for specific projects.
There is also HHC Humanitarian Bank which provides the same service in Israel although it also accepts 'deposits' of material goods to be used by poorer communities.
I have tried to contact the Humanitarian Bank in Lagos to warn them of the damaging effect Jill Bachman's abuse of their name might cause but I have, so far, been unable to contact any of the bank officials. I have left messages with several volunteers and other organisations for them to get in touch with me. I believe that 'The Humanitarian Bank' is an internationally registered trade mark so that should provide some protection as well as recourse to the law.

[path2prosperity]

There appears to be a rush to bury evidence about Jill Bachman's association with Andy Bowdoin This woman certainly needs investigation.

Who is Jill Bachman? Innocent victim (http://dream.homestead.com/index.html)?

[Soapboxmom]

Jill Bachman is an idiot. Putting grand kids' pictures on a private page available to family and friends is one thing. Putting them on a site promoting obvious scams such as the magic pendant crap is another. Life is tough enough. Scammers should leave the kiddies out of it!

Soapboxmom

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

This is a truly sad stream. I have always had the greatest respect for Bogdan Fiedur and really do not see that any of this stream has been at the behest of Bogdan.
My impression is that Bogdan has lost control of Adland Pro and is his own victim. There is no way that such an intelligent person would issue such instructions.

Hmm, the request to remove posts about some of his less salubrious members did come from him, as did the legal instructions to Julian Weider. Equally the realtruthorg.webs.com site appears to be his, as are many of the posts, if the writing style is anything to go by (and the fact that it is registered to an owner in Winnipeg) even though he "forgot" to join the site himself. None of his recent actions show much intelligence either!

It would be nice to think of Fiedur as a poor misguided chap, but he has condoned the promotion of illegal and immoral schemes as long as AdlandPro has been around and has never attempted to clean it up. His pleas of ignorance are a little inconsistent with his modus operandi Let's not get the Christmas spirit get the better of us. Too many people have lost money over the years through the schemes promoted there for that to be necessary.

[path2prosperity]

Hmm, the request to remove posts about some of his less salubrious members did come from him, as did the legal instructions to Julian Weider.

You can not be sure of this LORM. I wrote to the senior partner of Howard Kennedy and asked, if the letter which I received was genuine. I have not had a reply.

Adland is in chaos. A few of the top echelon members control parts of it now. Bachman and Bernier seem to be the most influential. The place is rotten to the core.

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

I am referring to his request to SBM, though also assuming that the request from Julian Weider was also sent on instructions. I cannot confirm this second part

[Whip]

Try as you might to separate them, they are all involved and know exactly what's going on.

[scratchycat]

Try as you might to separate them, they are all involved and know exactly what's going on.

That is beginning to be my opinion also. They know what they are doing and it is all in the name of $$$$$$$$$$$!!! Going to be interesting to see what happens when members start to withdraw from denial.

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

Try as you might to separate them, they are all involved and know exactly what's going on.
Couldn't agree with you more! The idea that the owner of AdlandPro is some poor little innocent who has neither the time nor the knowledge to understand what is advertised with him stretches credibility beyond the possible.

[scratchycat]

Jill Bachman is an idiot. Putting grand kids' pictures on a private page available to family and friends is one thing. Putting them on a site promoting obvious scams such as the magic pendant crap is another. Life is tough enough. Scammers should leave the kiddies out of it!

Soapboxmom

I agree with you SBM, it is using that "family cozy thing" to get followers to believe and hang on to every word. I heard the quote so much about as Jill says, "Love is the answer." Jill Bachman is not the originator of that phrase, I believe it is said in many ways in our Bible scriptures and even by Jesus. I finally told someone and don't use that quote on me again!

[scratchycat]

Hmm, the request to remove posts about some of his less salubrious members did come from him, as did the legal instructions to Julian Weider. Equally the realtruthorg.webs.com site appears to be his, as are many of the posts, if the writing style is anything to go by (and the fact that it is registered to an owner in Winnipeg) even though he "forgot" to join the site himself. None of his recent actions show much intelligence either!

It would be nice to think of Fiedur as a poor misguided chap, but he has condoned the promotion of illegal and immoral schemes as long as AdlandPro has been around and has never attempted to clean it up. His pleas of ignorance are a little inconsistent with his modus operandi Let's not get the Christmas spirit get the better of us. Too many people have lost money over the years through the schemes promoted there for that to be necessary.

The person or figure-head, Bogdan Fiedur, deletes what he wishes to delete and in his own timing. Some members get angry or hurt and delete threads or in my case, ALL OF MY FORUMS!! People are still getting caught up in the come on schemes to make big money and it happens all the time.

[scratchycat]

If all unactive members were to delete their accounts with Adlandpro it would make a significant impact. As it is, the numbers of members is just that NUMBERS. There are so many fly by night that just sign up send out some spamming scam and never come back. It would be interesting to see just how few members are really active, especially in the Networking part.

The scams, ponzis, MLMs, fraud - there is where the money comes from and those are the ones who will be supported.

[path2prosperity]

Couldn't agree with you more! The idea that the owner of AdlandPro is some poor little innocent who has neither the time nor the knowledge to understand what is advertised with him stretches credibility beyond the possible.

Nobody has suggested that Fiedur is some poor little innocent LORM. There were plenty of people who advertised legitimate businesses on Adland when it started including, you, me, "scratcy", "oldfart," "artistic rose" and plenty of others. There were very intelligent and interesting bloggers like "oldcoot" and Luella May who were powerful voices in Adlandpro in the early days.

Fiedur deserves respect for having established what COULD HAVE BECOME a world class online advertising service. The man is no fool so it is obvious that he has lost control of the place or cracked up. I am not sure when the really rapid deterioration started as I left in 2007. When I returned in 2010 Bachman and Fiedur appeared to have joint control.

The original Fiedur was no fool. Many people are wondering if the person who call himself Bogdan Fiedur now, is the same person who founded the community. The one thing that is obvious is that his association with Bachman was the turning point. Bachman has tried to change her spots and she has a great deal of help from people who want to bury the evidence of her past.

I think that Fiedur LOST or HANDED OVER control of Scamlandpro. I also think it happened when Bachman became THE LOUDEST VOICE in the community.

[Whip]

He is an absolute fool and has proven it beyond the shadow of a doubt with his ridiculous diatribes. He did not invent messageboards as much as he likes to think he did.

[path2prosperity]

He is an absolute fool and has proven it beyond the shadow of a doubt with his ridiculous diatribes. He did not invent messageboards as much as he likes to think he did.

The original Fiedur was no fool "whip". The entity who calls himself Bogdan Fiedur now is either somebody who has "gone banannas" or somebody who has complete control over the man.

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

The original Fiedur was no fool "whip". The entity who calls himself Bogdan Fiedur now is either somebody who has "gone banannas" or somebody who has complete control over the man.

I can't see any difference from then to now. I think simply that there are members who have changed their perception of the man and his forum and are now seeing him and the forum in its true light. Admittedly, it has gotten worse, but it is not a sudden change and it has progressed along the same lines since the rot set in (perhaps on Day One. lol). If Fiedur had not been such a fool, his forum maybe could have developed differently (and more legally) but maybe it is what he wants it to be. Let's face it, he could always have paid his expensive lawyers to write threatening letters to the scammers in his midst. Go figure.

[Whip]

I can't see any difference from then to now. I think simply that there are members who have changed their perception of the man and his forum and are now seeing him and the forum in its true light. Admittedly, it has gotten worse, but it is not a sudden change and it has progressed along the same lines since the rot set in (perhaps on Day One. lol). If Fiedur had not been such a fool, his forum maybe could have developed differently (and more legally) but maybe it is what he wants it to be. Let's face it, he could always have paid his expensive lawyers to write threatening letters to the scammers in his midst. Go figure.

Now THAT would be entertainment. The beekster wouldn't know what to do then. Let's see her throw her racism crap at them. LOL.

[laidback]

Now THAT would be entertainment. The beekster wouldn't know what to do then. Let's see her throw her racism crap at them. LOL.
But, but, but, you mean they wouldn't let her get away with the PC crap, where if you disagree with a "minority" you're either sexist, racist, or homophobic...?( I'm a W.A.S.P.ophobe myself...)

[path2prosperity]

I can't see any difference from then to now.

You must have believed that his service was reputable at one time LORM because you advertised there so did I. I learned a great deal from people who volunteered to help others in those days. "Grumpyoldfart and "oldcoot" taught me a great deal. You and Rose helped a lot of people to display images in Adland Art Gallery. That was a very good service in the community.

We need people who joined in the early days to help provide information about the source of the rot. I think the Mountain of Love forum changed the whole direction of Adland.

[path2prosperity]

The person or figure-head, Bogdan Fiedur, deletes what he wishes to delete and in his own timing. Some members get angry or hurt and delete threads or in my case, ALL OF MY FORUMS!! People are still getting caught up in the come on schemes to make big money and it happens all the time.

I wish that I could get all my links removed from Adpro. You can't get them removed, if it suits the current bosses. I Googled pressmania judy hortin and I am still seen advertising one of Fiedur's services. I joined when he first introduced the program to evaluate it. It seemed like a rubbish program and I decided to drop it. I tried to get my link removed years ago but I gave up. I think we should find a way of getting rid of these links forever.

[littleroundman]

When or why it changed makes no difference now.

Neither does ascertaining who knew what when and who was responsible.

The whole point for this thread being allowed to exist on REALSCAM.com (http://www.realscam.com/) is not to settle old scores, but, instead:

a) point out to readers the lengths to which Fiedur is prepared to go in defending his cesspool

b) warn readers of the possible consequences involved in becoming a member of AdLand Pro

c) Give readers the opportunity to see the depths to which AdLand Pro has sunk.

d) Give former members a forum to voice their displeasure at being "conned" into joining what they honestly believed to be a legitimate forum.

All the "shoulda, woulda, coulda" in the world makes little or no difference.

The point is, there ARE people who believed in AdLand Pro at some point and some of those people now realize the error of their ways.

Just as there ARE "true believers" in every fraudulent scam.

What "I" believe or what "YOU" believe makes no difference.

The basis of speaking out against fraud, in whatever form it takes, is the recognition there ARE innocent victims who DON'T get "it" no matter how obvious "it" may seem to others.

[scratchycat]

a) point out to readers the lengths to which Fiedur is prepared to go in defending his cesspool

b) warn readers of the possible consequences involved in becoming a member of AdLand Pro

c) Give readers the opportunity to see the depths to which AdLand Pro has sunk.

d) Give former members a forum to voice their displeasure at being "conned" into joining what they honestly believed to be a legitimate forum.

LRM, thank you for bringing out what we should be doing here. As I am one who was "conned" into believing I could add beauty to a place like that, it would be an accomplishment to see some more members of ALP discover the real truth about how the money is made. They turn a blind eye when they read what is stated here and look only to their LEADER fully believing it is Bogdan Fiedur who does all those things in Adlandpro. Folks, he is ONE person and not a God of any sorts. Maybe the real Bogdan is a good person who knows? However, the rulers behind Adlandpro are not good people. They know exactly where the money comes from and it is not from the upfront forums of music, Native Americans, Love of Cats, Art, Poetry, wisdom of some, and that ridiculous mountain of disgrace.

Why do you think those people (the gang of 5 mainly) are allowed to be there?? When they attack others, they bring in traffic. People just love a good fight!

I am going to post this link again in a group in FB, so if we can only get the attention of a few, it will grow from there.

P2P and LORM, you ladies are both wise in the ways of Scamland and working together we can all do our parts to get the message to others. Hopefully, the message has been received by legal authorities who watch communities such as ALP and see the trash they are supporting.

[scratchycat]

I wish that I could get all my links removed from Adpro. You can't get them removed, if it suits the current bosses. I Googled pressmania judy hortin and I am still seen advertising one of Fiedur's services. I joined when he first introduced the program to evaluate it. It seemed like a rubbish program and I decided to drop it. I tried to get my link removed years ago but I gave up. I think we should find a way of getting rid of these links forever.

P2P, that is one mistake I made also. I forgot to remove that when I signed up for that ad thing. Not sure what happened with that. I remember how one member got really upset about that popup ad and how I defended it - "Just sign up for it, it is free, and it will go away." :duh: Yes, that was me. :) I was a strong supporter of Adland and look what it got me, a kick in the behind!! It was a good kick though and I am happy to be free of it!

[scratchycat]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/sagari/

Come join me if you like, I will have to approve your membership.

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

You must have believed that his service was reputable at one time LORM because you advertised there so did I. I learned a great deal from people who volunteered to help others in those days. "Grumpyoldfart and "oldcoot" taught me a great deal. You and Rose helped a lot of people to display images in Adland Art Gallery. That was a very good service in the community.

We need people who joined in the early days to help provide information about the source of the rot. I think the Mountain of Love forum changed the whole direction of Adland.

I am afraid that I really do not see the relevance of the ins and outs of AdlandPro. Whilst I admit to having stayed after I realised it wasnt the business/social board it pretended to be nor a decent advertising option, the point at which it went downhill is a subjective one and we are not all going to agree on that. :pulling_hair_out: (I think it probably started on Day One. lol)

The bottom line is that today AdlandPro is a board which permits the advertising of bad news and illegal schemes which try to part innocent people from their money, including the retired and the disabled. The schemes and their promoters are there because they are permitted to be there by the owner who has complete and unilateral control over his board. As has been commented here before, it is far worse than the straightforward ponzi boards which promote nothing but money making schemes, because it pretends to be something else.

The value of this thread is, I believe, to educate people to see the realities of AdlandPro and make their own decisions accordingly. The owner Bogdan Fiedur, through his own actions, has been of great assistance in this respect. lol :loser:


As pointed out by LRM in his briliant summary of the purpose of this thread


The basis of speaking out against fraud, in whatever form it takes, is the recognition there ARE innocent victims who DON'T get "it" no matter how obvious "it" may seem to others.

[scratchycat]

This is Adlandpro, this is what it represents and what it supports. You might try to cover it up with the forums, but this is what it promotes.



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Katrina Bonita | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/members/tskatrina.aspx)

Classified Ads | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/ad/756733.aspx)

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It is offensive and disgusting.

[Whip]

I am afraid that I really do not see the relevance of the ins and outs of AdlandPro. Whilst I admit to having stayed after I realised it wasnt the business/social board it pretended to be nor a decent advertising option, the point at which it went downhill is a subjective one and we are not all going to agree on that. :pulling_hair_out: (I think it probably started on Day One. lol)

The bottom line is that today AdlandPro is a board which permits the advertising of bad news and illegal schemes which try to part innocent people from their money, including the retired and the disabled. The schemes and their promoters are there because they are permitted to be there by the owner who has complete and unilateral control over his board. As has been commented here before, it is far worse than the straightforward ponzi boards which promote nothing but money making schemes, because it pretends to be something else.

The value of this thread is, I believe, to educate people to see the realities of AdlandPro and make their own decisions accordingly. The owner Bogdan Fiedur, through his own actions, has been of great assistance in this respect. lol :loser:


As pointed out by LRM in his briliant summary of the purpose of this thread

I will say that for what some say is/was some groundbreaking advertising service....I had never ever heard of it before this board posted about it. It can't be that great or cutting edge.

[laidback]

I will say that for what some say is/was some groundbreaking advertising service....I had never ever heard of it before this board posted about it. It can't be that great or cutting edge.

Good point! I don't remember EVER doing a search for legitimate products from legitimate retailers and getting results for Adlandpoo...!

[path2prosperity]

P2P, that is one mistake I made also. I forgot to remove that when I signed up for that ad thing. Not sure what happened with that.
It was years ago when I signed up for Pressmania. It was probably 2005. I thought the wretched thing had fizzled out but it has resurfaced.

I think you helped me remove my affiliate link and the community introduction link because I had tried to remove them myself and the requests were not accepted. My ISP eventually stopped Adland spam from getting through. I will try complaining to Adland's web host and see if they will remove the Pressmania link for me.

[path2prosperity]

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The schemes and their promoters are there because they are permitted to be there by the owner who has complete and unilateral control over his board. As has been commented here before, it is far worse than the straightforward ponzi boards which promote nothing but money making schemes, because it pretends to be something else.



We are dealing with evolving systems that are changing at an unprecedented speed and there is no evidence to support the fact the "BoggyBoy" is one person. Adland is a cyberspace sewer which we are trying to get brought to the attention and hopefully closed down by legal authorities.

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

We are dealing with evolving systems that are changing at an unprecedented speed and there is no evidence to support the fact the "BoggyBoy" is one person. Adland is a cyberspace sewer which we are trying to get brought to the attention and hopefully closed down by legal authorities.


It is far more likely that the place will die from lack of traffic long before any authorities step in. LOL

[scratchycat]

Good point! I don't remember EVER doing a search for legitimate products from legitimate retailers and getting results for Adlandpoo...!

I came across it when I was trying to advertise my website, I was in for a shock!:shocked: Even in 2006 it was flooded with those get rich quick ads and scammers, I turned and fled for a few months and came back to get involved in the social aspect of it. I still have a few "friends" but most have dropped me or at least do not stay in touch...

[scratchycat]

It is far more likely that the place will die from lack of traffic long before any authorities step in. LOL

It really is irrevelant at this point who is in charge of the store. It would not surprise me to see the owner grab what he can and run for the hills before it is closed down.

In response to your statement LORM, I did hear yesterday that things were very quiet in the neighborhood with not much going on...

[path2prosperity]

It really is irrevelant at this point who is in charge of the store. It would not surprise me to see the owner grab what he can and run for the hills before it is closed down.

In response to your statement LORM, I did hear yesterday that things were very quiet in the neighborhood with not much going on...

The owner (He, she or they) are well represented at Apsense.

[path2prosperity]

I came across it when I was trying to advertise my website, I was in for a shock!:shocked: Even in 2006 it was flooded with those get rich quick ads and scammers, I turned and fled for a few months and came back to get involved in the social aspect of it. I still have a few "friends" but most have dropped me or at least do not stay in touch...

I thought those type of get rich quick ads were "the norm" when I joined in 2002. I just deleted as many as I could and tried to make my points. I was stupid not to have looked at other communities for a long time. I was shattered yesterday to find that all the evidence about the first autosurf to be set up by an Adlandpro member has vanished. It was hot news on Adland and I kicked up an absolute stink about the behaviour of admin and the only moderator of lucky7surf (http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox.a%40rls%3Dorg.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1024&bih=610&q=lucky7surf&btnG=Google+Search&oq=lucky7surf&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=2105l9755l0l13647l10l10l0l1l0l0l402l1559l0. 8.4-1l9l0#hl=en&client=firefox.a%40rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official&hs=uN9&channel=s&sa=X&ei=9XrzTqL8MtPD8QO2lvmnAQ&ved=0CBgQvgUoAA&q=lucky7surf&nfpr=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=440660d03c957758&biw=1024&bih=610).

Fortunately Adland crew can not delete the evidence of what happened in 2005 from Google or MMG. There is a long thread about it on MMG and a fair bit on TG. Most of the discussion was on Yahoo and I have not checked what remains there. YET

I have also found some archived Adpro pages where I complained about the business ethics of the admin. Some may remember her comment when she was asked about the members and she replied "eff the members"

[scratchycat]

RealScamClassActionSuit (http://www.bogdanfiedur.net/)

What happened to all those threats??!!!

[scratchycat]

Facebook, Myspace and Apsense. Are they all copies of Adlandpro from Bogdan Fiedur?

A Simply Amazing Social Network With A Twist That May Have Started It All.

It's no news that social networks are a great place to advertise any business while establishing new friends and business contacts but, who really started it all? I don't really know the answer to this but I do know that since 2003, I've been a member of Adlandpro with Facebook, Myspace, Apsense and the likes not even having been created yet. Could it be they were all created because of what I like to call my little Gem?

Definition of Gem From Our Wonderful Thesaurus:

Part of Speech: noun
Definition: precious stone; treasure
Synonyms: bauble, glass*, hardware, jewel, jewelry, masterpiece, nonpareil, ornament, paragon,



Now when I use the word gem when mentioning Adlandpro, I am thinking "Masterpiece" since that is exactly what the owner Mr. Bogdan Fiedur has created.

Why Adlandpro Shines Above The Rest.

Now with Bernier spouting all this trash, who is really the owner of ApSense??

[path2prosperity]

Now with Bernier spouting all this trash, who is really the owner of ApSense??

That is The Million Dollar Question.

[Whip]

*yawn* Is he still trying to claim he invented messageboards?

[littleroundman]

Now with Bernier spouting all this trash, who is really the owner of ApSense??

I think a more important question would be along the lines of:

"Who cares WHO owns the joint"

Determining the true ownership of a sanitary landfill site makes not one iota of difference to the stench given off and neither would knowing who's really behind AdLand Pro.

[path2prosperity]

I think a more important question would be along the lines of:

"Who cares WHO owns the joint"

Determining the true ownership of a sanitary landfill site makes not one iota of difference to the stench given off and neither would knowing who's really behind AdLand Pro.

Hi LRM. Scratchy had asked who is the owner of Apsense and I replied that this was the million dollar question. Adlandpro is above the radar and there are legal authorities, journalists, historians, researchers etc crawling all over it. I agree that those people will uncover more than we can.

Apsense is still below the radar and rumours about who is screwing whom in that corner of hyperspace are being circulated on the grapevine, which is a very bad thing. There was a migration from Adland to Apsense several years ago but the chief promoters of Adland scams were not evident until fairly recently. Bernier has put down roots in Apsense but I have not identified many others.

I consider it very important for members here to look for sources of infection from Adland in the relatively unpolluted Apsense soil. It does not hurt to try to identify seeds of poisonous plants over there.

[scratchycat]

I think a more important question would be along the lines of:

"Who cares WHO owns the joint"

Determining the true ownership of a sanitary landfill site makes not one iota of difference to the stench given off and neither would knowing who's really behind AdLand Pro.

I suppose just my thinking it might be a jumping off place for the Adland/Scamland BECAUSE there is so much attention focused on that cesspool. At least by putting up a fight this community has exposed the fakeness behind that threat to Judy & Heather and RealScam. Has anyone heard of a court date set??

[Soapboxmom]

I suppose just my thinking it might be a jumping off place for the Adland/Scamland BECAUSE there is so much attention focused on that cesspool. At least by putting up a fight this community has exposed the fakeness behind that threat to Judy & Heather and RealScam. Has anyone heard of a court date set??
I don't think Boggy and company could organize a trip to the loo, much less get any kind of litigation under way. He would need a cause of action and a lot more noodle than he appears to possess. At least he is entertaining!

Soapboxmom

[path2prosperity]

I was the one to whom this letter was addressed. The thing that struck me as ridiculous was the fact that the letter was SUPPOSED to be on behalf of Bogdan Fiedur but the complaint was about what "Fiedur" considered to be gross libel about Jill Bachman and Maurice Bernier. If BoggyBoy pays an expensive solicitor to act on his behalf, I would expect that he would complain about comments made about him, rather than Bachman and Bernier. This was one of the many reasons which prompted me to ask the senior partner of Howard Kennedy if it was genuine. I have had no reply. What can one conclude from that?

I do not know what any of you think but I think that BoggyBoy has fled the coop. If Howard Kennedy inform me that they are acting on behalf of Fiedur, I will apologize for having doubted the authenticity. Until that time, I remain convinced that the owners of Adlandpro, as it exists today include Bachman and Bernier.

It may not be an important issue to some readers of this thread but to me it is important. I want to know who it is who is threatening to sue me. I do not believe that "Bogdan Fiedur" is the sole owner of Adlandpro any longer.

[path2prosperity]

I don't think Boggy and company could organize a trip to the loo, much less get any kind of litigation under way. He would need a cause of action and a lot more noodle than he appears to possess. At least he is entertaining!

Soapboxmom

Quite right SBM. The disorganized rabble who operate under the Fiedur flag are totally effete.

[scratchycat]

We have been helping them clean up the place and knowing they read this, I will go ahead and tell you Bogdan you need to check out one member who has 45 accounts. Rodney Browne!!

Enjoy your new following while you can before they TURN on you again. :RpS_smile:

Oh, how easy we forget...

[path2prosperity]

We have been helping them clean up the place.



Clean up Adland!!!. If Boggy wanted to do that, he could get rid of Bachman and Bernier for starters. Instead he sends out solicitor's letters complaining about those of us who criticise his two commanders in chief.

[scratchycat]

Yes, I understand P2P, but he has someone getting rid of those 'sexy' model photos that we pointed out to him. I am sure all the classifieds are still there, it would take nuclear weapons to remove those!!

Also, we are looking forward to the POTTY award for 2011. Gosh, my keys just keep getting stuck on those 't's'!!

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

Have to agree with LRM on this one


"Who cares WHO owns the joint"

It would make more sense to prove the wrong doing and let law enforcement deal with the enablers. The names of the scammers du jour on the sites is anecdotal. Before them there were others. Doesn't any one remember AdlandPro being home for Pedro Dispenza and "Manolo" and a whole host of "well known" others since 2004/5? 12 Daily Pro and most other major scams were pimped there then, as others are now. What has changed, as far as I can see, is that many other boards (like Facebook etc) have taken over the "social" side of the place as people find them more fun and less inundated with network marketing cr*p AND, dare one say, better run. lol Others have gone to industry specific boards with their real businesses. (AdlandPro might have had more "good members" at the beginning, but it has always been pretty tacky from a real business perspective)

If Fiedur have ever wanted to clean up his forums, he should never have let them get out of hand at the start, way back then.

Apsense is just another story of a company which tried to start as a business advertising board and got taken over by the "network marketing industry". Their development has been a history of modernizing IT for it's use, combined with some kind of "social" environment, but that too is now a reflection of their membership which is equally uncontrolled.

[path2prosperity]

du jour[/I] on the sites is anecdotal. Before them there were others. .

We have pointed out plenty of wrondoing LORM. Sales of dirty knickers, porn and ponzis. I do not believe that Fiedur has total control of Adlandpro now. The fact that he sends me a solicitor's letter complaining about what he calls "libel" about Bachman and Bernier, suggests that they are part of Adland heirarchy. You say let law enforcement deal with the situation and that is certainly true to an extent. How can law enforcement know the contents of a solicitor's letter sent to me unless I mention parts of what it states.

I have decided to make the fact that this letter was about things I have said about Bachman and Bernier public knowledge so that any law enforcement agency can contact me, if they wish to know more. Evidence of who owns the joint may not matter to readers here but it could be of great interst to law enforcement agencies. I have given them the chance to request a copy of the letter.

[Whip]

We have pointed out plenty of wrondoing LORM. Sales of dirty knickers, porn and ponzis. I do not believe that Fiedur has total control of Adlandpro now. The fact that he sends me a solicitor's letter complaining about what he calls "libel" about Bachman and Bernier, suggests that they are part of Adland heirarchy. You say let law enforcement deal with the situation and that is certainly true to an extent. How can law enforcement know the contents of a solicitor's letter sent to me unless I mention parts of what it states.

I have decided to make the fact that this letter was about things I have said about Bachman and Bernier public knowledge so that any law enforcement agency can contact me, if they wish to know more. Evidence of who owns the joint may not matter to readers here but it could be of great interst to law enforcement agencies. I have given them the chance to request a copy of the letter.

It suggests to me they ARE 'bogdan'. It is merely a name.

[path2prosperity]

It suggests to me they ARE 'bogdan'. It is merely a name.
That is certainly what it suggests to me "whip." Heaven knows where the original Fiedur is. Gossip abounds and one of the latest yarns is that he has already escaped to a South American country.

[Whip]

That is certainly what it suggests to me "whip." Heaven knows where the original Fiedur is. Gossip abounds and one of the latest yarns is that he has already escaped to a South American country.

How do you know one ever even existed?

[path2prosperity]

How do you know one ever even existed?

Good point. However the original owner had a record of achievement. He/ she/they developed the first dedicated biz opps search engine and the first social networking community on the Internet. The original owner/owners were very upset, when Bachman's "Mountain Of Trash" forum gained popularity and he/she/they complained bitterly about the rubbish. The original owner claimed to be a Roman Catholic which is a monotheistic religion but the the present owners are propogating their polythestic, (pagan) religion.

The huge exodus from Adland started in 2005 but a few of us stayed on and tried to ignore the Mountain trash and growing amounts of spam through the PM system. "Oldcoot" made a spectacular exit from the community in protest but he was lured back by popular demand. He did his best to help the original owner to sort the place out but Bachman's following grew and new characters like Bernier, Van Beenkom and Jimbo appeared on the scene to corrupt the place even more than it was when Bachman and Fiedur had control.

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

He/ she/they developed the first dedicated biz opps search engine and the first social networking community on the Internet

This is what Bodgan Fiedur always told his members. lol I strongly suspect it was simply the first one some of us had heard of. Fiedur did not invent forum boards, much as he would like to claim that he did.

Equally, the idea that there were many real business opportunities there is a bit of a myth. There were one or two advertisers of real products but they left early on - like the first year? Please dont quote me as an example of a business advertiser as it took very little time to realise that it was a waste of time to stay there to get real traffic or slaes as the advertising of real stuff didnt work there. It was just fun to stay for a while for other reasons. The only "Biz opps" I ever saw were dodgy get right quick schemes, MLMs and autosurfs.

It is difficult to join the conspiracy theories of who owns AdlandPro. I suspect it is the same owner, as ever, and influenced by his chosen members, as ever. Darned right he is going to get his knickers in a twist if someone calls out the only people who bring him traffic. The only thing that has changed is the names of those who bring the traffic in and the he way he has handled it seems fairly consistent with the way he has always run his site.

The good news is that the way he has handled it has probably made him responsible for his and his site's own downfall.

[littleroundman]

This is what Bodgan Fiedur always told his members. lol I strongly suspect it was simply the first one some of us had heard of. Fiedur did not invent forum boards, much as he would like to claim that he did.

As if.

Bulletin boards have been around since connection speeds were measured in bauds and the boards themselves were in text form.

Fiedur didn't invent a bloody thing.


Internet (http://www.livinginternet.com/) > Internet Relay Chat (IRC) (http://www.livinginternet.com/r/r.htm) > IRC History



The IRC protocol was developed over the last 4 years since it was first implemented as a means for users on a BBS to chat amongst themselves. Now it supports a world-wide network of servers and clients, and is stringing to cope with growth. Over the past 2 years, the average number of users connected to the main IRC network has grown by a factor of 10.
- J. Oikarinen, D. Reed; Internet Relay Chat Protocol (http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1459.txt); RFC 1459; May 1993.



Who invented Internet Relay Chat? IRC was invented by Jarkko Oikarinen for use on the Internet (http://www.livinginternet.com/) in 1988. However, there has also been an interesting history to the development of distributed chat communications that goes back to the early 1970's. The following subsections provide more information:


Early Programs (http://www.livinginternet.com/r/ri_early.htm)



EMISARI (http://www.livinginternet.com/r/ri_emisari.htm)



PLANET (http://www.livinginternet.com/r/ri_planet.htm)



PLATO (http://www.livinginternet.com/r/ri_talk.htm)



EIES (http://www.livinginternet.com/r/ri_eies.htm)



CompuServe CB (http://www.livinginternet.com/r/ri_compuserve.htm)



Talkers (http://www.livinginternet.com/r/ri_talkers.htm)



Internet Relay Chat (http://www.livinginternet.com/r/ri_irc.htm)



IRC Networks (http://www.livinginternet.com/r/ri_net.htm).

Other resources. The BITNET (http://www.livinginternet.com/u/ui_bitnet.htm) network also provided a real-time chat system called Relay (http://web.archive.org/web/20071012091446/http://nethistory.dumbentia.com/).

[path2prosperity]

Equally, the idea that there were many real business opportunities there is a bit of a myth.

There were real business people who advertised there for a while as you did and I did. I advertised the services of two extremely good web hosting companies and affiliate products that I was selling, like Milliput. Many of the people who advertised their artwork were genuine.There were also people advertising good hardware and computer software products. I agree that the advent of the ponzi era was the death of Adland for any sensible advertising.

Fiedur may still run the place or still have sole access to the C-panel but I am certainly not convinced. Terry The ****** gave others access to his C-panel and all the facts as to who had access are now in the hands of legal authorities. I know this is fact because the person who handed the information has told one or two people who have direct contacts with members of these authorities.

If Bachman or Bernier have access, we will not know until the facts are published for the general public. Meanwhile let us hope that the end of Adlandpro along with Bachman and Bernier is in sight.

[path2prosperity]

As if.

Bulletin boards have been around since connection speeds were measured in bauds and the boards themselves were in text form.

Fiedur didn't invent a bloody thing.

Thank you for that information LRM. I think that settles the issue.

[path2prosperity]

Very interesting to see that another serial scammer is put out because of SBM's revelations about Adlandpro.

Who would have guessed that the Bachman, Bogdan, Bernier trinity had such a devoted following among recidivist scammers of THIS ILK. Post 10 will give you a good laugh (http://www.realscam.com/f8/paid-online-writing-jobs-980/)

The downfall of this unholy trinity is certainly making waves.

[path2prosperity]

Roger the Lodger is back trumpeting his Adland leader. He has dropped the SIR ROGER! What a turn around for a little man of Adland. Take a look for yourself. (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2409902/ForumInformumFeedbackforBusinessandPleasure/131.aspx)

I wonder if Roger knows that the CEO of Adlandpro whom he praises permits advertisments for dirty women's knickers in Adland classifieds.


Quote from one previously known as Sir Roger

A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL ACTIVE ADLANDERS

Please remember

THIS IS YOUR FORUM

I frequently find questions on other forums, some from new members some from established advertisers and networkers.

This is THE PLACE TO ASK

Our CEO Bogdan follows this forum

Bogdan is good at helping directly and if it is technical gets answers from the team

NO GUARANTEE, BUT AS NEAR AS YOU WILL EVER GET TO A GUARANTEE OF ADLAND ADVICE

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Forum Informum is a forum set up by Roger Macdivitt with the aim of helping new and existing members to resolve Adland social and advertising network, technical and other matters that can improve your use of Adlandpro.

Can't find your way around?

ASK

Can't log in?

ASK

Can't use the editor?

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All forum owners are invited to copy the above between the two red dots and paste this into their own forums.

We need everyone to know how to get around here.

We get out what we put in

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[littleroundman]

Our CEO Bogdan follows this forum
What's with this "CEO" B/S ??

Since when did the owner of a crappy little forum for scammers become a "CEO" ??

Talk about delusions of grandeur.

CEO my a**

[Soapboxmom]

What's with this "CEO" B/S ??

Since when did the owner of a crappy little forum for scammers become a "CEO" ??

Talk about delusions of grandeur.

CEO my a**

There is a lot of that going around. Jack Weinzierl, the Christian Millionaire mentor, claimed to be president of www.oneoasis.com. President of a 3 page Advantage Conferences pyramid scheme ad??? Really!!!!!

Soapboxmom

[Whip]

Thank you for that information LRM. I think that settles the issue.

Yeah...I can't believe no one's pointed that out before. :RpS_rolleyes:

[path2prosperity]

What's with this "CEO" B/S ??

Since when did the owner of a crappy little forum for scammers become a "CEO" ??

Talk about delusions of grandeur.

CEO my a**

Be Careful LRM. The Unholy Adland Trinity named Fiedur may try suing you! Libelous comments about the three in one at Adland could get you into court.

[littleroundman]

What a lovely place Mr Fiedur is running.

Choes me up just thinking about it, really.

Not only can the poor and underprivileged buy second hand womens' underwear on Adland, but there are lovely people wanting pen pals:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/MsDoris.jpg

Makes me think of kittens and puppies and baby animals and makes me go all gooey inside.

Who wouldn't sue to protect THAT sort of forum ???

[path2prosperity]

Yeah...I can't believe no one's pointed that out before. :RpS_rolleyes:

I can be a bit slow to get the point at times "whip", it is conneted with a disorder known as old age! Thanks for the reminder though!

[Whip]

I can be a bit slow to get the point at times "whip", it is conneted with a disorder known as old age! Thanks for the reminder though!

I'd almost buy that if it wasn't pointed out numerous times and not just by me. You really need to take the blinders off.

[path2prosperity]

I do not know what you are suggesting "whip". Adland was the first online community which I joined and I learned a great deal from people who have left. The only people with whom I remain in contact from that sewer now are members here or at Ex Adlanders. I hope that we can encourage people who were members there to join us here as there are plenty of Ex Adlanders selling lovely things like "scratcy's" greeting cards tee shirts etc.

I think that it is fair to say that once a believer in Fiedur, does not imply con artist or scammer.

[path2prosperity]

This proclamation sounds a bit like "Buster" philosophy.

Has Buster morfed into something else? Wise Words from a naive newbie or an old lag (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2494854/PostyourbusinessventureseveryoneandHappyNewYear201 2/6.aspx)? Somebody selling a site called senseNdollars (http://sensendollars.com/) sounds very fishy to me.

I QUOTE.

This is the beginning of a new era in Network Marketing!

ALL Network Marketers joining the same opportunities...what a novel idea!

These guys are definitely on to something big! As apposed to everyone joining opportunities at random, not knowing where they are positioned, spreading ourselves thin, and the company owners end up making most of the money...We can form a MASSIVE army of entrepreneurs and march across the Globe from opportunity to opportunity! Just watch as we drip on you week after week with thousands and thousands of invitations and new people joining everyday...So be sure to take a look at what we are doing and open your eyes to opportunity, because a closed mind can cost you more than you'll ever know!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/moneymatrix/

[Whip]

I do not know what you are suggesting "whip". Adland was the first online community which I joined and I learned a great deal from people who have left. The only people with whom I remain in contact from that sewer now are members here or at Ex Adlanders. I hope that we can encourage people who were members there to join us here as there are plenty of Ex Adlanders selling lovely things like "scratcy's" greeting cards tee shirts etc.

I think that it is fair to say that once a believer in Fiedur, does not imply con artist or scammer.

What I am suggesting is that 'all these people' (it could only be one person for all anyone knows) is/are liars/scammers, it has been pointed out numerous times, and you chose to ignore it and yet try to make excuses for it like your saying this 'bogdan' is some kind of genius. 'He's' not, then, finally, a third person posts the same facts that have been stated previously and it's somehow, just now, confirmed. I guess you thought I and laidback (I believe) must have been making it up in numerous posts.

Just like it's been pointed out that these are just anonymous names (see how that backfires on them) being used. I wouldn't believe any of them saying, who they say they are, even if i saw a birth certificate unless I could confirm it with fingerprints.

And has been pointed out, this so-called great advertising venue is/was nothing in the internet universe but what has been there is ripping people off since it's inception. That's why it has always been under the radar. I really don't get what your agenda is here.

[scratchycat]

Not sure about the recent comments here, so I won't respond to any of them right now. I just got this in an email, so I thought I would see if they were trying to draw me back in but no it tells me my account has been terminated. It has a link for me to unsubscribe so I am going to do that but thought I would post this one here:

Hi Sara - New revolution​ary affiliate product -this page sells itself
Inboxx


Adlandpro Admin rep@lyris.adlandpro.com
11:01 AM (3 hours ago)
to me



Hi Sara,

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[okosh]

Not sure about the recent comments here, so I won't respond to any of them right now. I just got this in an email, so I thought I would see if they were trying to draw me back in but no it tells me my account has been terminated. It has a link for me to unsubscribe so I am going to do that but thought I would post this one here:

Hi Sara - New revolution​ary affiliate product -this page sells itself
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Adlandpro Admin rep@lyris.adlandpro.com
11:01 AM (3 hours ago)
to me

I now get rubbish like this everyday from scamaland and/or it's members....I also get a heap of spam for porn sites since posting at scamaland...

[path2prosperity]

Hi scratchy,

I signed up for pressmania yonks ago, I think it was 2002, maybe 2003. You can't of get rid of the affiliate link unless you are some sort of computer geek. I know what I have to say on the matter and I am sorry if it offends you but it is my honest opinion.

Bugger the Good Ship Fiedur and All That Sail in Her.

[path2prosperity]

What I am suggesting is that 'all these people' (it could only be one person for all anyone knows) is/are liars/scammers, it has been pointed out numerous times, and you chose to ignore it and yet try to make excuses for it like your saying this 'bogdan' is some kind of genius.

I am not saying that Bogdan is a genius. I have said again and again that Adland was a far better community before Bachman and Bernier became big fish and helped to turn the place into the stinking sewer that it is today. The solicitor's letter which I received was about what three people considered to be libel. It is not surprising that I ask members here to express an opinion as to whether The owner of Adlandpro is one person or three? I have decided to refer to the owner of Adlandpro as "The Unholy Trinity." Like you I would not trust any one of the three or all of them further than I can spit.

I also believe that Vanbeenkom, Jimbo, Roger The Lodger and Fogel are different people who are fairly high up in the Adland pecking order. I believe that those people are seperate entities. You are entitled to say they are just anonomous names.

What I find more relevent to this discussion is the fact that I have been under a fair bit of pressure from several quatres to keep Bachman's name out of posts which I make on RS.

[scratchycat]

Well, I am here to report to you that due to all our findings about what is behind Adlandpro, there has been an attempt to 'clean up' their act a little. SBM most of the ads that you posted links to have been removed. Now they have shifted the focus to attacking Facebook by forming groups to disclose some child porn promoted in FB. Now don't get me wrong, I think that is disgusting and glad the people involved were caught. It was a private group operating in FB and seems there were others. The people have been named and hopefully behind bars due to cooperation of FB admin and Canadian police forces.

Today this was posted on my FB wall and also in Adlanders in FB.
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[scratchycat]

Think I will start another thread on all the things I discovered while searching behind the Causes thing.

[scratchycat]

I am not saying that Bogdan is a genius. I have said again and again that Adland was a far better community before Bachman and Bernier became big fish and helped to turn the place into the stinking sewer that it is today. The solicitor's letter which I received was about what three people considered to be libel. It is not surprising that I ask members here to express an opinion as to whether The owner of Adlandpro is one person or three? I have decided to refer to the owner of Adlandpro as "The Unholy Trinity." Like you I would not trust any one of the three or all of them further than I can spit.

I also believe that Vanbeenkom, Jimbo, Roger The Lodger and Fogel are different people who are fairly high up in the Adland pecking order. I believe that those people are seperate entities. You are entitled to say they are just anonomous names.

What I find more relevent to this discussion is the fact that I have been under a fair bit of pressure from several quatres to keep Bachman's name out of posts which I make on RS.

Bogdan, genius?? No. I am sure P2P does not think so either. It is easy to get fooled into believing and trusting someone - I can attest to that!! I thought Bogdan was a very interesting person and I was devoted to him and respected him. Does that make me a person to not be believed here now that I finally 'saw the light'?

He does have the charisma to draw people to him no matter what some think. I believe somewhere in here oldcoot has stated that he admired the man. What ever was, was and now is NOW. This community working together has helped to shed light on the evil operating and being promoted in Adlandpro.

We can't stop it but we have certainly helped to make some changes. You should all feel pretty good about that.

[scratchycat]

What I am suggesting is that 'all these people' (it could only be one person for all anyone knows) is/are liars/scammers, it has been pointed out numerous times, and you chose to ignore it and yet try to make excuses for it like your saying this 'bogdan' is some kind of genius. 'He's' not, then, finally, a third person posts the same facts that have been stated previously and it's somehow, just now, confirmed. I guess you thought I and laidback (I believe) must have been making it up in numerous posts.

Just like it's been pointed out that these are just anonymous names (see how that backfires on them) being used. I wouldn't believe any of them saying, who they say they are, even if i saw a birth certificate unless I could confirm it with fingerprints.

And has been pointed out, this so-called great advertising venue is/was nothing in the internet universe but what has been there is ripping people off since it's inception. That's why it has always been under the radar.

Well-stated, Whip, and I am a terminated from Adlandpro! LOL Except the part about someone's agenda, that sounds too much like an Adlander. However, I do believe what has happened in RS lately has brought more attention to Scamland. Why we even got them to try and clean up a bit. You know what that really made little difference because those were posted in FREE classified. You won't see them getting rid of any of the scummers and the PROGRAMS that are taking up most of the space, simply because that is where the $$$$$ come from. People like Bachman, Bernier, Vanbeekom, either little Jimbo and big Peter F. just keep things rolling along by attracting attention.

I wait for the day to see some internet agency file some reports against them.

[scratchycat]

Very good information and maybe why we have not heard anymore from the RealScamClassActionsuit against Judy and Heather and RS.

Business opportunities, models and strategies. Scamlandpro. (http://path2prosperity.com/business_opportunities.html)

Read on you who now rule Adlandpro.

[path2prosperity]

Very good information and maybe why we have not heard anymore from the RealScamClassActionsuit against Judy and Heather and RS.

Business opportunities, models and strategies. Scamlandpro. (http://path2prosperity.com/business_opportunities.html)

Read on you who now rule Adlandpro.

I have made some minor modifications "scratchy." I put the old page up for a specific purpose. I will be splitting the page into two pages very soon. The business opportunities page will be about cyberspace communities where it is safe to advertise legitimate products and services.

[path2prosperity]

Carl Harvaaldson the video maker for manelo/strosdegos and perpertrator of the Fortune 2x2 matrix scam nominated for Adland's Person of The Week. Do you think Carl will sue me for this? Adland award (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2504691/Voteforthe309THPOTW.aspx?flag=1).

Just look at Carl's Adland friends. OneXconcept and the tart looking for sex partners online, whom LRM identified Gasu Doris. Talk about laughing my backside off

Carl's Adland Friends (http://community.adlandpro.com/members/231557.aspx)

[path2prosperity]

BoggyBoy's new journalist friends. I would not like to be in their shoes when SBM gets wind of the story.

BOGGY BOY VINDICATED (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/1/prweb9051545.htm)?

[littleroundman]

For many e-commerce business owners this can add a new and considerable revenue source for their business offers the opportunity to recoup advertising money that they have spent money promoting their business by generating revenue through owning their own classifieds site.

All right, Mr Fiedur, I give up.

YOU try and make sense out of that extract from your self published PR release, because I sure as hell can't.

Fiedurs' free PR release (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/1/prweb9051545.htm)

Geez,

do potential clients to prove themselves to be fluent in gibberish before you'll bring them onboard ??

[Soapboxmom]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


Adlandpro is one of the few companies that still offer all three levels of customer support by live chat, email and telephone contact. Is our little BottomFeeder absolutely sure about that???

[path2prosperity]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Is our little BottomFeeder absolutely sure about that???

He must be sure that you will not remove comments about him from your web site and that I will not remove anything that I have said about him from my site. BF also means Bloody Fool.

[scratchycat]

Good digging there P2P!!

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[Soapboxmom]

Bogdan's Fiedur's desperation is showing. His traffic is plummeting and he is scrounging for advertisers! At least his gibberish is amusing! Who wouldn't want to join the idiots advertising used underwear pray tell?

Soapboxmom

[laidback]

I see that scamland finally deleted Wallaces "Bad Blood" thread. Wonder if they banned or terminated him? A search for his name comes up empty.

[baylee]

I see that scamland finally deleted Wallaces "Bad Blood" thread. Wonder if they banned or terminated him? A search for his name comes up empty.

It looks like Bogan is trying to get rid of the evidence. It will not do him any good as open air sunshine exposes all.

[Whip]

Could this mean a subpoena is on the way finally?

[laidback]

Could this mean a subpoena is on the way finally?Hope you're not holding your breath on that one...!

[Whip]

Hope you're not holding your breath on that one...!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Whip412/seinfeld-jerrythatsashame.jpg

[path2prosperity]

I see that scamland finally deleted Wallaces "Bad Blood" thread. Wonder if they banned or terminated him? A search for his name comes up empty.

That is not the only thread that has been deleted recently. When I returned to Scamland in 2010, the first forum that I created was in their board's "SCAM" section. My forum was called "Who Is Screwing Whom in Cyberspace." I mentioned well known scams which had been blown apart and I had a thread about ways to deal with scamming scum like Franchesco DeJesus. The whole forum has been deleted and "our friend Van Beenkom tried to nominate this low echelon spammer for their Person of The Year Award.

Anybody who deletes evidence against DeJesus and wants to be connected to that man is running very low in fire power. Legal Authorities, journalists, historians, researchers etc have got copies of all this information. Anybody who deletes evidence about what goes on in Scamland is burning their own boats.

[scratchycat]

This may explain some of the desperation Adlandpro is having.

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541

The reigning POTTY Queen is having such a good time with her new Koffee forum.


542


A dark Cave. In the middle, a Caldron boiling. Thunder.

Enter the three Witches.

1 WITCH. Thrice the brinded cat hath mew'd.
2 WITCH. Thrice and once, the hedge-pig whin'd.
3 WITCH. Harpier cries:—'tis time! 'tis time!
1 WITCH. Round about the caldron go;
In the poison'd entrails throw.—
Toad, that under cold stone,
Days and nights has thirty-one;
Swelter'd venom sleeping got,
Boil thou first i' the charmed pot!
ALL. Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and caldron bubble.
2 WITCH. Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the caldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt, and toe of frog,
Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork, and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg, and owlet's wing,—
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.
ALL. Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and caldron bubble.

Double, Double Toil and Trouble - Shakespeare (http://www.potw.org/archive/potw283.html)

[path2prosperity]

[QUOTE=scratchycat;15038]This may explain some of the desperation Adlandpro is having.

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541

The reigning POTTY Queen is having such a good time with her new Koffee forum.


542

Howard Kennedy can unearth far more data on Fiedur than we can "scratchy." Their concern was what I said about Bachman, Bernier and Bogdan. They have not issued any proceedings so the "Unholy Trinity" must be finding it hard to convince their lawers, that what I said about them, is not true.

A RS member has told me that (he/she) had corresponded with Mary Evelyn by snail mail. Keep on producing evidence to show that Mary Evelyn and others such as Myrna Ferguson are not what they appear to be and something important could be revealed at Bowdoin's criminal trial in Sept 2012. Snail mail is good evidence in court. Keep the good work up. Throw any MaryEvelyn mud that you can find against the wall till something sticks or she gets a genuine coat of whitewash.

"She" has corresponded by snail mail to one Adlander and "she" has probably written to others. I have corresponded with some Adlanders (not Mary Evelyn) by snail mail and I would gladly produce those in court. One Adlander concerned would probably be delighted to let HK see the evidence, as the letter was about the predatory nature of a cat who puked up dead wasps on my carpet!

MaryEvelyn may have only written to one Adlander by snail mail. If she is a "Bachman, Bogdan Bernier" persona, she had better watch her backside. Andy's trial is going to reveal a great deal.

[scratchycat]

Howard Kennedy can unearth far more data on Fiedur than we can "scratchy." Their concern was what I said about Bachman, Bernier and Bogdan. They have not issued any proceedings so the "Unholy Trinity" must be finding it hard to convince their lawers, that what I said about them, is not true.

Well I hope they have already done it P2P and found that the whole thing was a big stink since what they accused you and RS of is exactly what is happening in Scamland now to me. They are having a field day with their lies and insinuations. Kathleen has a big imagination because her memory is worse than mine. She surely has a way of twisting words.

[scratchycat]

MaryEvelyn may have only written to one Adlander by snail mail. If she is a "Bachman, Bogdan Bernier" persona, she had better watch her backside. Andy's trial is going to reveal a great deal

I will bet those words were so sweet you can have them for desert. I have known many Southern women like that, they come off as the sweetest thing in the world but carry a knife behind them that will stab you to death in a second. She is that sweet little lady from Tennessee that keeps moving for some strange reason, she is now in Florida. I would not be surprised if she was not involved in ASD thing with the number of "friends/downline" she has built up. She does not have the smarts for running anything.

[path2prosperity]

[QUOTE=scratchycat;15090 She does not have the smarts for running anything.[/QUOTE]

She wrote to a RS member by snail mail "scratchy." She is already burned toast but there is no harm in finding out if another Adlander and or RS has received snail mail from her.

[scratchycat]

Maybe they will let someone know. It wasn't me. We had a few decent pms for a short while.

I posted this in the thread I started http://www.realscam.com/f16/adlandpro-misses-its-star-member-cyber-bullying-972/index3.html
but I think it fits here also:

To visit or even pass by Adlandpro makes one want to go and take a bath, ugh!!




Kathleen Vanbeekom 1/22/2012 5:14:12 AM (yesterday), Kathleen Vanbeekom wrote:
Amanda, You can get product-labels from Vista Print, I ordered some a couple weeks ago and they were $3.99 for 12 (around size 2 inch x 4 inch or something like that) but the shipping was over $7....
in Mary Evelyn's Koffee Klatch in A casual social gathering for coffee and conversation

Kathleen Vanbeekom 1/21/2012 11:55:06 PM (yesterday), Kathleen Vanbeekom wrote:
I remember a couple years ago I had communications with her and advised her NOT to remove people from her friendship list because of possible retaliation, I told her it's not worth the couple click...
in The Hypocrite In Chief Is At It Again in The Meshugeneh Reality

Kathleen Vanbeekom 1/21/2012 11:47:10 PM (yesterday), Kathleen Vanbeekom wrote:
Thanks, Amanda! The second time I won, there was only one other contestant, otherwise there only would have been 1 entry if I hadn't entered. No appreciation for actually making her Picture Conte...
in The Hypocrite In Chief Is At It Again in The Meshugeneh Reality

Kathleen Vanbeekom 1/21/2012 10:07:09 PM (yesterday), Kathleen Vanbeekom wrote:
Hi Peter, Those are my 2 photos that won the Picture Contest last year, this photo and the one at the bottom of the previous page. If a contest owner is offering a prize, it should be given, if a...
in The Hypocrite In Chief Is At It Again in The Meshugeneh Reality

Now she is back to whining about not getting a prize for winning in the little picture contest I had going on, they are digging from the bottom. Here is your prize Kathleen and it was sent to you in your email and posted in the forum. The suggestion of this award as a prize came from Bogdan Fiedur as he said this is what they do in the Polish Site. Now go wash your dirty mouth out with soap or something. 546547

[Whip]

Wow. They reeeeeeeally have nothing going for them in their life that they have to worry about not getting some prize from an internet messageboard.

[scratchycat]

The truth is Whip I contacted her several times in regards to it and she never replied, not even once. It was a contest I ran on my own and used my own money to give the gifts!! Since she did not want a free copy of one of my poetry books, I did not suggest that one again. I still say she runs a close race with Casey Anthony the lying mom who killed her own child - not that Kathleen would kill a child but she surely can tell lies.

[scratchycat]

Now as far as Mary Evelyn, she does nothing wrong. She promotes this:

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What could be wrong with peddling


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This incredible NEW plan allows the average person to achieve success FASTER and EASIER than anyone could ever imagine.

The "American Dream" is alive and well!

[laidback]

I think the statement at the bottom says all you need to know:

* These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products and information are not intended to diagnose, treat,
cure or prevent disease. Take as directed and always consult with your doctor or healthcare professional before taking any supplements or medications.Translation: All of the above claims are pure crap, designed to separate people from their money. Since it is well established that money is filthy, we are doing you a favor by taking yours, thus reducing the risks of infection!!!

[path2prosperity]

The lower echelons are all making Scamlandpro a well known corner of cyberspace. No mention of Bachman, Bogdan or Bernier.

Google knows Scamlandpo (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=scamlandpro&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&source=hp&channel=np)

[Whip]

The truth is Whip I contacted her several times in regards to it and she never replied, not even once. It was a contest I ran on my own and used my own money to give the gifts!! Since she did not want a free copy of one of my poetry books, I did not suggest that one again. I still say she runs a close race with Casey Anthony the lying mom who killed her own child - not that Kathleen would kill a child but she surely can tell lies.

Since you brought that up, do you post at justice quest? And she learned from the best.....her own scamming mother.

[scratchycat]

Since you brought that up, do you post at justice quest? And she learned from the best.....her own scamming mother.

No, have not seen that but I have followed that case from day one and was outraged at the charge "not guilty".

[path2prosperity]

Fogel has diagnosed me as having senile demetia like Krimm's lackies "Chris007" and "brookie" Jack Cobb diagnosed me as having serious personality disorders despite the fact that he had never done any industrial psychometric profiling as I have done. Dr Mara's diagnosis of my mental health conditions are only available to those who signed her idiotic GMS NDU.

I look forward to the day that Fogel's diagnnostic and remedial skills are put to the test. Fogel The Medical Practitioner? (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2468646/TheHypocriteInChiefIsAtItAgain/17.aspx) or Fogel the twerp on a par with Chris007 who is reduced to posting on forums like Mutt's MyCashForums. Perhaps BoggyBoy's solicitor's will call Fogel as "An Expert Witness" on these matters.

[scratchycat]

The Fogel has been up to this for years P2P. He always thinks he is the doctor, lawyer, and indian chief. It is so familiar to me and he has done it not only to me but many others over the years. He sits in his little cyber cage and crawls out where there is anyone to attack. Never has anything positive. Always negative and talking about our President Obama like he really knows anything. Then he has that sick "joke" forum that I would not tread in ever!! Just reading the words from the forum messages is enough.


It's quite obvious who the cyber bullies really are.

I don't know about the rest of you and that includes the viewers of this thread but the alley cat and the mad dog Englishwoman are in a rage and their delusionally demented and pity me posts all over the internet are proof positive of that. Two sick ladies IMO.

I still wonder when the RS members will wake up to what these two woman (especially the alley cat) are doing to their anti scam advocacy site? They're turning their board into a gossip site and will not be taken seriously after these two sickos are through with them.

Shalom,

Peter

[scratchycat]

Peter

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Kiryat...

Re: The Truth The Whole Truth And Nothing But The Truth11/19/2008 11:58:05 PM
Hello All,

My good and close friends know that I thought hard and had reservations whether to start this thread or not. In the end I decided to start it for the obvious reason that I was attacked and wasn't able to defend myself but now there are additional reasons that are important to me and here they are.

Interesting things are happening in our community lately that I find hard to comprehend. It seems that many are finding it easier to relate to "pity me" then with the "truth".

Now don't get me wrong I do have pity and compassion for people that have problems, are ill, financial difficulties, defenseless animals, abused people especially children and the list goes on and on.

BUT I have a problem having much pity for people that:

Lie and knowingly misrepresent an issue wrongly attack others in the process and when called on their actions say Pity Me.

Say and this is a direct quote: I try but I really do not like to get into conflicts. Actually, I avoid them at all costs. Comes back to lies cos she actually did start this conflict knowingly and with fore thought apparently knowing the Pity Me will absolve her of all wrong doing and will be forgiven by others.

I have neither compassion nor pity for one that maliciously attacks with lies and supposed proof that proves nothing at all. Taking things out of context knowingly and at the end asks for forgiveness if she offended any one. Once again the Pity Me syndrome comes into effect. Why start the attack to begin with?

I will raise other points in future posts but the original question I asked what is more important TRUTH or PITY. Personally I've always been a seeker of the truth and never understood those that seem to fear the truth. That doesn't negate pity and compassion but that should be reserved for those that deserve it and are not malicious in their actions and deeds and then say Pity Me.

Shalom,

Peter

He has been spouting off that kind of stuff for years. He used to post everywhere about my Pity Parties and I have seen him do the same thing to others. He is no judge of anyone but needs to look in the mirror to see where the problems are.

[path2prosperity]

"Bogdan Fiedur" and "Barry Scott" of Scamlandpro endorse their POTW Person of The Week awards to one Lenworth Nelson who openly advertises scams like Zeek Rewards, JustBeenPaid, and jsstripler in his signature files.

Who is in control of Scamlandpro? Who endorses these awards for those who promote these scams? I have heard nothing from Howard Kennedy about the gross libel which I am purported to have made about Fiedur, Bernier and Bachman.

Does Fiedur wish to sue me for libel about comments on his choice of Person of The Week? Lenworth Nelson (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2510027/Voteforthe312POTW/2.aspx)?

[scratchycat]

"Bogdan Fiedur" and "Barry Scott" of Scamlandpro endorse their POTW Person of The Week awards to one Lenworth Nelson who openly advertises scams like Zeek Rewards, JustBeenPaid, and jsstripler in his signature files.

Who is in control of Scamlandpro? Who endorses these awards for those who promote these scams? I have heard nothing from Howard Kennedy about the gross libel which I am purported to have made about Fiedur, Bernier and Bachman.

Does Fiedur wish to sue me for libel about comments on his choice of Person of The Week? Lenworth Nelson (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2510027/Voteforthe312POTW/2.aspx)?

Glad to hear there has been no further action from the Kennedy firm.

We did not cover the news in Yahoo!!

Bogdan Fiedur and Adlandpro Offer Their 12 year old Classified ad Technology to the Public - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/bogdan-fiedur-adlandpro-offer-12-old-classified-ad-080634850.html)

Even Grandma can...

[Whip]

Glad to hear there has been no further action from the Kennedy firm.

We did not cover the news in Yahoo!!

Bogdan Fiedur and Adlandpro Offer Their 12 year old Classified ad Technology to the Public - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/bogdan-fiedur-adlandpro-offer-12-old-classified-ad-080634850.html)

Even Grandma can...

Same, self promoting, fake 'press release' he put out before claiming he invented messageboards.

[scratchycat]

Same, self promoting, fake 'press release' he put out before claiming he invented messageboards.

I know but did not realize it was covered in Yahoo also since I rarely go there!!

[path2prosperity]

The news that Adlandpro is down is all over the net. Let us hope that RS and legal authorities have blown that sewer sky high.

Best news is that Bachman's newage forum is also down.

newage4U (http://www.newageu.com/)

[scratchycat]

The news that Adlandpro is down is all over the net. Let us hope that RS and legal authorities have blown that sewer sky high.

Best news is that Bachman's newage forum is also down.

newage4U (http://www.newageu.com/)

Best news I've heard in a long time.

[path2prosperity]

Best news I've heard in a long time.

Thanks to all RS members who have inflicted damage on the the admin of Scamlandpro. The persona "Bogdan Fiedur" (whoever he/she or they are), thought it would be easy to scare an old English woman and an American housewife. SBM and I are not as green as we are cabage looking and we have many more questions to ask about Scamland.

Who introduced Autosurf Authority, as a voluntary service to clean up the autosurf industry? ASA which was run by Jake Amadee and Todd Heaps was not a voluntary service it was a huge scam. Many were taken in by that announcement on Adlandpro. Was ASA created to clean up the autosurf industry? Many Adlanders believed that it and they invested in Phoenix Surf, as a result of the promotion of ASA on Adlandpro.

The first surf program hawked as a trustworthy autosurf for Adlanders, was Lucky7surf. Well known Adlanders like Linda Harvey built large downlines. I think that Linda was a victim of the person who set up Lucky7surf. The moderator of that scam may not have known what he was getting into when he took up the job and stated that he believed in the findings on ASA. I know Lucky7surf was represented as being a "Christian Business" on Scamland.

[scratchycat]

Still down as of ll:23 am CST USA...

Bogan reports hardware problem...

[path2prosperity]

Bogdan? How did you get that news "scratchy?" Scamland is obviously leaking like a garden sieive, if a banned member like you hears his reports.

[scratchycat]

Bogdan? How did you get that news "scratchy?" Scamland is obviously leaking like a garden sieive, if a banned member like you hears his reports.

Must not reveal all my secrets P2P! :RpS_smile: However, he has now reported it is back up and operating...

[Soapboxmom]

The Dumb@$$ scammer is at it again!

The site RealScam.com engages in harboring disgruntled users who then create anonymous accounts on the RealScam site and out of revenge attack members, business owners and individuals accusing them of unproven actions, exposing their full names taken from their place of business or activity. Such unproven accusations cause irreparable damage to the reputation of users who have provided their full names in public places to conduct their business or other social activities.
For example these two members who were identified as Judy Hortin (http://www.realscam.com/members/path2prosperity/) and Sara Gardener Blow (http://www.realscam.com/members/scratchycat/) have been attacking members of the community they belonged to whom they had disagreements with in the past. Out of revenge two other members of the community (who had no online business for several years) were accused of running scam businesses and one being a crook. Other members have been attacked and without any investigation declared as scammers or fabricated facts have been linked to them.
Judy Hortin (http://www.realscam.com/members/path2prosperity/) has been terminated from social networking site for multiple cases of breaking of community rules after which she has started her attacks on the owner and active community members. She has been terminated on Dec 4, 2010 and has registered on the realscam.com on 01-15-2011. There is possibility that her actions could be qualified as cyber-bullying (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber-bullying), cyber-stalking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberstalking) and cyber-harassment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberharassment). The possibility of her breaking of these acts is now being investigated for the sake of filing reports with authorities. Since then she has been for close now to 10 months continually posting message in relation to one social networking site and its members.
We have done a little bit search on Judy Hortin and have found that she might have been part of programs which were later declared illegal.
Here is the link (http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/internetpaymentsgroup/message/12) on Yahoo groups where Judy Hortin discusses difficulties in receiving money from autosurf programs. The message indicates that the program has been blacklisted by E-Gold. It appears she didn't do the due diligence and joined a program which at best has been black listed by E-Gold. How many people did Judy refer to this program?

The RealScam.com appears to be represented by Heather Dobrott.
The RealScam.com doesn't offer any protection for individuals who can be targeted by malicious users of their site and doesn't have privacy statement, which at best can be called unprofessional and deceptive.
Belittling, ridiculing, calling names and using offending language is a common behavior on this site including main admin Heather Dobrott.
Site doesn't have information about its place of business and all information about site registration is hidden from the public using service Domains by Proxy, Inc to hide identity of the owner from liability.
Main admin stated that to prosecute her business we would have to be in her jurisdiction and we would not be able to prosecute all the other members who are spread throughout the world, implying that she can say and write whatever she wants and we can't do nothing about it.
She was amused with our immature and futile attempts to cause have any troubles.


We are still asking ourselves who is Heather Dobrott.
After checking discussion board on Heather Dobrott aka soapboxmom found in contempt.. (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=131712) we are learning that she was found in contempt of court on August 4th and ordered to pay $3,000 because of that finding.

Here are the details of the Collin County Court Records (http://cijspub.co.collin.tx.us/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=286573) and this was in 2007. If this link doesn't work acces main site here http://cijspub.co.collin.tx.us/ . click Civil & Family Case Records, select search by "Party" and type last name Dobrott and first name Heather in the search box, then click "Search" button.

So the scam-buster breaks the law herself. Now we know where she gets her experience in court matters.

Site RealScam encourages cyber-bullying, cyber-stalking and cyber-harassment by allowing the creation of anonymous accounts and by allowing the users to present of unproven accusations towards individuals of their targeted organization. The RealScam.com turns out to be just unprofessional harassment and bashing site with no verification of facts and indiscriminate attacks at anyone who looks like an easy target.

RealScam instead of contributing to fighting scam encourages cyber-bullying, cyber-stalking and cyber-harassment and perpetuates the problems which it has allegedly attempting to solve.

If you have been targeted by anonymous users from the RealScamSite.com and would like to join Class Actions Suit against RealScam.com or have any information which could help to enforce some rules in regards to this site, please send us email to following address support@realscamclassactionsuit.com (support@realscamclassactionsuit.com?subject=Joini ng%20Class%20Action%20Suit)




UncelFesta is askign question on the Is Realscam.com a haven for scammers? - WORLD Law Direct Forums (http://www.worldlawdirect.com/forum/internet-hyip-scams/59090-realscam-com-haven-scammers.html) board.Is Realscam.com a haven for scammers? and then he answeres.

The short answer is yes.

Why do I say the answer is yes you might ask. Well I'll tell you.

First we have admin Littleroundman. A well known incest pornographer and owner/manager of warez sites. He also scammed one poor demented woman known as Finix into believing he could offer her a new life halfway round the world.

Then there is Finix herself. A known participant in various scams. She has also tried to fund illegal processors and has at one time worked for the notorious Shadow Crew member Patryn. She is still a Patryn apologist.

Next we have Okosh. A well known ebay scammer and forum thief. He is also a ponzi participant although he says he has now seen the light. Personally, I doubt it.

Patryn himself has recently been welcomed into the forum.

Last but not least on my list ( there will be plenty of others) is Egg-on-legs Lynndel Edgington. He scams by having people believe that if they donate to his cause they are helping to save the world from scammers.






On another blog, the blog owner writes.
REALSCAM.COM may live up to it's name? - REALTRUTH.ORG (http://realtruthorg.webs.com/apps/blog/show/10527500-realscam-com-may-live-up-to-it-s-name) This is great and more than I could dream of, I wrote this blog because I got screwed in a purchase deal by one of the members on Real Scam and was then ignored. I tried to contact this real scam and was ignored. If they can have member's that have scammed people in the past and that they are aware of them could they be liable for anything like letting the member hide behind this joke of a website to make themself look credible? I mean if they are who they say they are they would investigate their members wouldn't they? If you need additional information you can reach me at littleroundsoapboxmom@gmail.com






On Alexa review section one user writes.
Realscam.com Site Info (http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/realscam.com#)
Comments: They posting fake alligigation against diffrent websites without having proofs. Also they list peoples private info WITHOUT the victim is agreeing on it. They ask money to remove it.





You can read here (http://realtruthorg.webs.com/apps/blog/show/10527500-realscam-com-may-live-up-to-it-s-name) what people think about realscam.com and here. (http://www.worldlawdirect.com/forum/internet-hyip-scams/59090-realscam-com-haven-scammers.html) You can see character of people associated with realscam.com They come in both threads to defend themselves with more cyber-bullying and cyber-harassment. Each time using anonymous accounts and never revealing their true identity.
Following articles might be of interests if you have been slandered, bullied, harassed by this site or if some of the anonymous users there engaged in defamation against you.


The CDA, cyber-racketeers, the DMCA, and changes to Section 230 by Domingo Rivera (http://cyberlawyerblog.com/2008/11/26/the-cda-cyberracketeers-the-dmca-and-changes-to-section-230-by-domingo-rivera.aspx)
Internet Bloggers Beware: Ohio Court Lands Another Blow Against Those Engaging in Internet Defamation (http://cyberlawyerblog.com/2008/05/01/internet-bloggers-beware-ohio-court-lands-another-blow-against-those-engaging-in-internet-defamatio.aspx)
Internet Defamation Law - Website owners and bloggers beware - The latest interpretation of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act (http://cyberlawyerblog.com/2008/04/04/internet-defamation-law-and-qualifying-as-a-service-provider--the-latest-interpretation-of-section-230-of-the-communications-decency-act.aspx)

In addition UK law defines harassment/Cyber-stalking as follows (http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/stalking_and_harassment/)




Harassment In this legal guidance, the term harassment is used to cover the 'causing alarm or distress' offences under section 2 of the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 as amended (PHA), and 'putting people in fear of violence' offences under section 4 of the PHA. The term can also include harassment by two or more defendants against an individual or harassment against more than one victim.
Although harassment is not specifically defined it can include repeated attempts to impose unwanted communications and contacts upon a victim in a manner that could be expected to cause distress or fear in any reasonable person.
The harassment of another or others can include a range of offences such as those under: the Protection from Harassment Act 1997; the Offences Against the Person Act 1861; the Sexual Offences Act 2003; and the Malicious Communications Act 1988. It is important when considering this type of offending to look at all relevant legislation when formulating charges.
Closely connected groups may also be subjected to 'collective' harassment. The primary intention of this type of harassment is not generally directed at an individual but rather at members of a group. This could include: members of the same family; residents of a particular neighbourhood; groups of a specific identity including ethnicity or sexuality, for example, the racial harassment of the users of a specific ethnic community centre; harassment of a group of disabled people; harassment of gay clubs; or of those engaged in a specific trade or profession.
Harassment of an individual can also occur when a person is harassing others connected with the individual, knowing that this behaviour will affect their victim as well as the other people that the person appears to be targeting their actions towards. This is known as 'stalking by proxy'. Family members, friends and employees of the victim may be subjected to this.
Certain groups of professionals are particularly susceptible to harassment connected with their work. These include doctors, judges, police officers, teachers and other authority and public figures. It may also involve harassment of individuals as a result of their employment by a particular employer.
...
Criminal Legislation Harassment (section 2): a summary only offence, carrying a maximum of six months' imprisonment and/or a level 5 fine;

Cyber stalking Harassment can take place on the internet and through the misuse of email. This is sometimes known as 'cyberstalking'. This can include the use of social networking sites, chat rooms and other forums facilitated by technology. The internet can be used for a range of purposes relating to harassment, for example:


to locate personal information about a victim;
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as a means of surveillance of the victim;
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damaging the reputation of the victim;
tricking other internet users into harassing or threatening a victim.








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[Whip]

Poor unclefecal (Note an anonymous name that 'bogdan' (another anonymous name) complains about. Suddenly it's OK?)...can never get any of his money back he invested in scams himself.
Funny...my name is out there as well as my business and I don't see it being reported on any scam site. But then again, I have a real business and it's legit.

[Soapboxmom]

It is obviously time to get tough with Bottom Feeder. Here is the link to the online complaint form for advertising in Canada. Let's complain about every ad on Scamlandro that is objectionable and get that dump shut down!!!

http://www.adstandards.com/en/Standards/canCodeOfAdStandards.aspx

ASC (http://www.adstandards.com/en/Standards/consumerSubmission.asp)

Soapboxmom

[littleroundman]

On Alexa review section one user writes.
Realscam.com Site Info (http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/realscam.com#)
Comments: They posting fake alligigation against diffrent websites without having proofs. Also they list peoples private info WITHOUT the victim is agreeing on it. They ask money to remove it.

WHAT ????


They ask money to remove it.

We're getting money for this ????

THAT DOES IT !!!!

Where's my cut ????

[scratchycat]

With you SBM, all the way!!!!

[littleroundman]

Uncle Festa is asking question

Here's a Zen question for you:

If someone posts a question on the internet and nobody reads it, is it really there ???

[Whip]

WHAT ????



We're getting money for this ????

THAT DOES IT !!!!

Where's my cut ????

We have fake alligators?

[Soapboxmom]

Boggy really attacks the high class, intellectual types, doesn't he???


On Alexa review section one user writes.
Realscam.com Site Info (http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/realscam.com#)
Comments: They posting fake alligigation against diffrent websites without having proofs. Also they list peoples private info WITHOUT the victim is agreeing on it. They ask money to remove it.

Of course, you will be publishing the proof of that since you published this page, right Boggy boy???

Soapboxmom

[EagleOne]

WOW! Finally made Bogdan's list. I can't get over the detailed due diligence done by Uncle Festa to come up with his brilliant conclusion. I mean he wrote pages and pages of facts to support his conclusion. Well, it was almost a paragraph. But the content was so in-depth I guess that is all that was needed to convince Bogdan.

So Bogdan, when do I get my award? Is it a trophy or a medal or both? I can't wait to display it. Next thing Bogdan will begin claiming that I own this forum and scam, and have a gazillion IP addresses, and everyone posting here is really me, and no-one else. I'm sure mmb will provide him all his "proof."

I am honored to have so many loyal fans and groupies. And all this time I thought only rock stars got them. I'm a STAR! :shocked::RpS_blushing:

[Whip]

So is Realscamclassactionsuite like a Presidential Suite?

[littleroundman]

I'm a STAR!

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/shootingstar.gif

[Soapboxmom]

So is Realscamclassactionsuite like a Presidential Suite?
Boggy boy does have delusions of grandeur.

[littleroundman]

So is Realscamclassactionsuite like a Presidential Suite?

More like the "ExecutiveWashroom Suite"

[littleroundman]

At the risk of repeating myself,

I really wish one of these blowhard wannabe Clarence Darrows DID institute legal action and not just talk about it.

Could it possibly be that Bogdan Fiedur is as stupid as he appears and is prepared to appear in open court to defend his forum and its' advertisers ??

For goodness' sake, he accepts money from frauds and fraudsters even AFTER he has had the fact pointed out to him.

Unless he could produce "real" proof of the fact he has sought "real" legal advice and has taken steps to ensure compliance with the law/s, he's merely pi****g into the wind.

If he wants to run such an enterprise, fine, it's his choice.

But, he CANNOT expect to go public with his threats and remain under the radar.

Again, it's his choice.

I suppose he HAS got his Andy Warhol "15 minutes of fame" but, other than that he's got nothing.

[EagleOne]

Maybe Bogdan and mmb were twins separated at birth? Both have the same IQ.

[path2prosperity]

Maybe Bogdan and mmb were twins separated at birth? Both have the same IQ.

BoggyBoy is no fool but the idiots who control him and his advertising board are in total chaos. Boggy appears to be more interested in defending Bachman and Bernier than anything else.

[path2prosperity]

QUOTE "Bogdan Fiedur" whoever he/she/ they may be.

"We have done a little bit search on Judy Hortin and have found that she might have been part of programs which were later declared illegal.
Here is the link on Yahoo groups where Judy Hortin discusses difficulties in receiving money from autosurf programs. The message indicates that the program has been blacklisted by E-Gold. It appears she didn't do the due diligence and joined a program which at best has been black listed by E-Gold. How many people did Judy refer to this program?"

How many people did I refer to the program BoggyBoy? If you had really done any DD, you would know that I was the first to give Collete Larson and her husband Dan Lunt "merrry -ell" for their fraudulent Autosurf Money processor and their e-surfpro autosurf program.

If you wish to imply that I was a referral whore for this scam, you should do a bit of DD. I tested Autosurf money with my own money and found it wanting. I infuriated Collete Larson who was threatening her members who spoke up about her nefarious deals. Those facts are available if anybody with an enquiring mind wishes to find out.

Were you trying to cast aspersions on my reputation BoggyBoy? You had better try a bit harder next time.

[scratchycat]

The entire statement on this poor excuse for a website, named by me this morning as RASCAL, is ridiculous. Do these people have spellcheck? Honestly, if someone uses those sources of information as "proof" I believe any legal professional would laugh them out of their office.

I have better things to do than visit that pathetic place, they don't deserve the traffic but they will get it out of nothing but curosity.

The Alexia thing is also a joke because anyone can go there and post what they want to. RS admins need to remove that really bad English statement though but yet it is rather humorous.

[scratchycat]

QUOTE "Bogdan Fiedur" whoever he/she/ they may be.

"We have done a little bit search on Judy Hortin and have found that she might have been part of programs which were later declared illegal.
Here is the link on Yahoo groups where Judy Hortin discusses difficulties in receiving money from autosurf programs. The message indicates that the program has been blacklisted by E-Gold. It appears she didn't do the due diligence and joined a program which at best has been black listed by E-Gold. How many people did Judy refer to this program?"

How many people did I refer to the program BoggyBoy? If you had really done any DD, you would know that I was the first to give Collete Larson and her husband Dan Lunt "merrry -ell" for their fraudulent Autosurf Money processor and their e-surfpro autosurf program.

If you wish to imply that I was a referral whore for this scam, you should do a bit of DD. I tested Autosurf money with my own money and found it wanting. I infuriated Collete Larson who was threatening her members who spoke up about her nefarious deals. Those facts are available if anybody with an enquiring mind wishes to find out.

Were you trying to cast aspersions on my reputation BoggyBoy? You had better try a bit harder next time.

I would not let their 'little bit of research' even cause a reaction except 'in one eye and out the other'. It is the same old thing those people have done in the past, instead of admitting that what they support is nothing but crime, they attack the exposers.

[scratchycat]

WOW! Finally made Bogdan's list. I can't get over the detailed due diligence done by Uncle Festa to come up with his brilliant conclusion. I mean he wrote pages and pages of facts to support his conclusion. Well, it was almost a paragraph. But the content was so in-depth I guess that is all that was needed to convince Bogdan.

So Bogdan, when do I get my award? Is it a trophy or a medal or both? I can't wait to display it. Next thing Bogdan will begin claiming that I own this forum and scam, and have a gazillion IP addresses, and everyone posting here is really me, and no-one else. I'm sure mmb will provide him all his "proof."

I am honored to have so many loyal fans and groupies. And all this time I thought only rock stars got them. I'm a STAR! :shocked::RpS_blushing:

Great to have you among the celebrities Leggs!!

[Soapboxmom]

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Boggy's site is still littered with porn, prostitution ads and possible human trafficking ads. It is high time that cesspool be shut down. That is precisely why legitimate critcs are calling out that money grubbing slime, Bogdan Fiedur. He makes a fortune of off promoting pure crap and then attacks legitimate critics who seek to protect the public. Legitimate businesses do not advertise at dumps like that!

Soapboxmom

[path2prosperity]

Boggy's site is still littered with porn, prostitution ads and possible human trafficking ads. It is high time that cesspool be shut down.
Soapboxmom

Good on you for showing the filth on the site up SBM. BoggyBoy has probably already scarpered. We know that the big Andy Bowdoin promoters like Jill Bachman and Carol Salisbury are above the radar so the person or people running the revolting place can't survive for much longer. It is ten times worse than places like TG and MMG.

[Soapboxmom]

domain: realscamclassactionsuit.com
owner: Bogdan Fiedur
organization: Softfornet Solutions Ltd
email: http://source.domaintools.com/email.pgif?md5=c6fd26073cf00ba48c4f25b0d77b8894&face=arial&size=9&color=000000&bgcolor=FFFFFF&face=arial&size=9&color=0000FF&bgcolor=FFFFFF&format[]=underline&format[]=transparent&format[]=transparent (http://www.domaintools.com/research/reverse-whois/?email=c6fd26073cf00ba48c4f25b0d77b8894)
address: 23-845 Dakota Street, Suite 332
city: Winnipeg
state: MB
postal-code: R2M 5M3
country: CA
phone: +1.2042547228
fax: +1.2042547228
admin-c: CCOM-6849 http://source.domaintools.com/email.pgif?md5=c6fd26073cf00ba48c4f25b0d77b8894&face=arial&size=9&color=000000&bgcolor=FFFFFF&face=arial&size=9&color=0000FF&bgcolor=FFFFFF&format[]=underline&format[]=transparent&format[]=transparent (http://www.domaintools.com/research/reverse-whois/?email=c6fd26073cf00ba48c4f25b0d77b8894)
tech-c: CCOM-6849 http://source.domaintools.com/email.pgif?md5=c6fd26073cf00ba48c4f25b0d77b8894&face=arial&size=9&color=000000&bgcolor=FFFFFF&face=arial&size=9&color=0000FF&bgcolor=FFFFFF&format[]=underline&format[]=transparent&format[]=transparent (http://www.domaintools.com/research/reverse-whois/?email=c6fd26073cf00ba48c4f25b0d77b8894)
billing-c: CCOM-6849 http://source.domaintools.com/email.pgif?md5=c6fd26073cf00ba48c4f25b0d77b8894&face=arial&size=9&color=000000&bgcolor=FFFFFF&face=arial&size=9&color=0000FF&bgcolor=FFFFFF&format[]=underline&format[]=transparent&format[]=transparent (http://www.domaintools.com/research/reverse-whois/?email=c6fd26073cf00ba48c4f25b0d77b8894)
nserver: a.ns.joker.com 184.172.157.218
nserver: b.ns.joker.com 66.197.237.21
nserver: c.ns.joker.com 66.252.5.4
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modified: 2011-10-31 16:42:26 UTC
expires: 2012-10-31 16:42:26 UTC
query-source: 216.145.14.142

contact-hdl: CCOM-6849
person: Bogdan Fiedur
organization: Softfornet Solutions Ltd
email: http://source.domaintools.com/email.pgif?md5=c6fd26073cf00ba48c4f25b0d77b8894&face=arial&size=9&color=000000&bgcolor=FFFFFF&face=arial&size=9&color=0000FF&bgcolor=FFFFFF&format[]=underline&format[]=transparent&format[]=transparent (http://www.domaintools.com/research/reverse-whois/?email=c6fd26073cf00ba48c4f25b0d77b8894)
address: 23-845 Dakota Street, Suite 332
city: Winnipeg
state: MB
postal-code: R2M 5M3
country: CA
phone: +1.2042547228

source: joker.com live whois service
query-time: 0.041155
db-updated: 2012-03-19 16:10:06
Bogdan owns that site and no matter who may be helping him, he is legally responsible. Not to smart to be making false criminal allegations and posting the garbage he is. It is a one stop shop for authorities. And, baiting one's legitimate critics has a nasty habit of biting one in the butt. Just ask Tim Darnell. I sued him and his posts about me and that hideous slam site disappeared. I dropped the case after I got what I wanted and now all the documents are online. He is being totally destroyed by the negative publicity and obvious inference that he authored the hideous slam site as my suit against him made it magically disappear. He also wasted thousands in attorney fees. I quit chasing him because he is an uncollectable pauper with $113,000.00 in IRS tax liens and a suit to enforce the lien on his home for delinquent property taxes. The authorities will be finishing that idiot off I imagine. Boggy is going to regret all the publicity he is generating. I can guarantee it! He should take Timmy, Jack Weinzierl and Broker Jones out for a drink adn ask them how they fared taking on RS!

Soapboxmom

[scratchycat]

I agree that it does not matter who is running the site, Bogdan is responsible since he is the owner according to records.

[scratchycat]

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[scratchycat]

That seems contrary to what you have shown here SBM.

[path2prosperity]

Bogdan owns that site and no matter who may be helping him, he is legally responsible. Not to smart to be making false criminal allegations and posting the garbage he is. It is a one stop shop for authorities. And, baiting one's legitimate critics has a nasty habit of biting one in the butt. Just ask Tim Darnell. I sued him and his posts about me and that hideous slam site disappeared. I dropped the case after I got what I wanted and now all the documents are online. He is being totally destroyed by the negative publicity and obvious inference that he authored the hideous slam site as my suit against him made it magically disappear. He also wasted thousands in attorney fees. I quit chasing him because he is an uncollectable pauper with $113,000.00 in IRS tax liens and a suit to enforce the lien on his home for delinquent property taxes. The authorities will be finishing that idiot off I imagine. Boggy is going to regret all the publicity he is generating. I can guarantee it! He should take Timmy, Jack Weinzierl and Broker Jones out for a drink adn ask them how they fared taking on RS!

Soapboxmom

That is great to know. Perhaps that is the reason why the Bachman's, Bernier's VanBeenkom's and others are so blatant about advertising their crap on Scamlandpro.

Do we know that he still resides in Canada? Could there be any truth in the rumour that he has fled to South America to avoid, what he calls "the dark cabal?" This may be rubbish but it shows that any crap gets circulated, when you are dealing with people who openly allow porn merchants to advertise in your name.

[path2prosperity]

Adland does not sanction porn posts according to Barry Scott.

That is complete spherical objects. Barry Scott is supposed to be an Adlandpro employee. How is it possible for an employee of the company not to know that the advertising board is littered with porn advertisers and posts. How could an intelligent employee fail to see that Zeek is another ponzi being promoted all over Adland?

Another Adland rumour that Barry Scott is another Fiedur persona could be true.

[Soapboxmom]

Another brilliant expose on Bogdan Fiedur's scam promotion site. Our sincere thanks to Patrick for standing tall for freedom of speech on the internet and taking a leading role in warning and informing the public. Kudos!

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[Soapboxmom]

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[Soapboxmom]

Patrick made an excellent point. Adlandpro members' pictures and names appear on the pages promoting prostitution and potential human trafficking and worse yet they might show up on a used underwear ad. Isn't that reason enough to abandon that ship!!!

Soapboxmom

[littleroundman]

Patrick made an excellent point. Adlandpro members' pictures and names appear on the pages promoting prostitution and potential human trafficking and worse yet they might show up on a used underwear ad. Isn't that reason enough to abandon that ship!!!

Soapboxmom

In the interests of fairness and lest we should be accused of being sexist, perhaps we should point out Fiedurs' forum continues to advertise used womens' underwear for sale.

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

Bogdan owns that site and no matter who may be helping him, he is legally responsible. Not to smart to be making false criminal allegations and posting the garbage he is. It is a one stop shop for authorities. And, baiting one's legitimate critics has a nasty habit of biting one in the butt. Just ask Tim Darnell. I sued him and his posts about me and that hideous slam site disappeared. I dropped the case after I got what I wanted and now all the documents are online. He is being totally destroyed by the negative publicity and obvious inference that he authored the hideous slam site as my suit against him made it magically disappear. He also wasted thousands in attorney fees. I quit chasing him because he is an uncollectable pauper with $113,000.00 in IRS tax liens and a suit to enforce the lien on his home for delinquent property taxes. The authorities will be finishing that idiot off I imagine. Boggy is going to regret all the publicity he is generating. I can guarantee it! He should take Timmy, Jack Weinzierl and Broker Jones out for a drink adn ask them how they fared taking on RS!

Soapboxmom


BRAVO!

It is of no major importance if Bogdan Fiedur is being led by the nose by his favorite scammer du jour, actively encourages them or even participates himself in the programs they advertise. The site is his and only his. He has always permitted scammers, trouble makers and political loonies to post with impunity and break every one of his ToS, AS LONG AS THEY BRING HIM TRAFFIC. The names change, but the song remains the same. The quality of that traffic doesn't seem to worry him - only the numbers.

His recent campaign to "save his site" is laughable. He doesn't seem to have caught up with the realities of the internet as it is today and lives in a past world when Facebook was never used by adults and noone over 21 felt comfortable with computers.

[path2prosperity]

BRAVO!

It is of no major importance if Bogdan Fiedur is being led by the nose by his favorite scammer du jour, actively encourages them or even participates himself in the programs they advertise. The site is his and only his. He has always permitted scammers, trouble makers and political loonies to post with impunity and break every one of his ToS, AS LONG AS THEY BRING HIM TRAFFIC. The names change, but the song remains the same. The quality of that traffic doesn't seem to worry him - only the numbers.

His recent campaign to "save his site" is laughable. He doesn't seem to have caught up with the realities of the internet as it is today and lives in a past world when Facebook was never used by adults and noone over 21 felt comfortable with computers.

I agree with you that the buck stops with Fiedur but the way that serial pimps like Kathleen VonBeenkom and Jill Backman use Scamland to promote their garbage does not mean that they are immune to any responsibility to their downlines, who were conned into joining programs like AdSurfDaily. I have pointed out some of the scams promoted by VonBeenkom today on a RS ZeekRewards Forum (http://www.realscam.com/f9/bidify-zeek-rewards-clone-along-usual-suspect-scandanavian-fraudsters-1155/).

[scratchycat]

Another brilliant expose on Bogdan Fiedur's scam promotion site. Our sincere thanks to Patrick for standing tall for freedom of speech on the internet and taking a leading role in warning and informing the public. Kudos!

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Soapboxmom


THANK YOU PATRICK!! And thank you SBM for reporting it to this site.

[path2prosperity]

Patrick mentioned that an Adlander's picture, which appeared on a sleazy sex site which was advertised in Adland, there was a picture of a couple holding what appeared to be an infant. I think that most of us know who that person was. I would not want this person or his wife as an Internet pen friend but I would not like to think that people like this are being associated with porn advertising without their knowledge.

Fortunately the person concerned reads RS and hopefully he will take the matter up with Bogdan Fiedur or the members who have Fiedur by "the short and curly's"

[scratchycat]

P2P, could this be the big bad wolf Peter and his dear wife with 5 year old grandchild (at least by now)????

[path2prosperity]

P2P, could this be the big bad wolf Peter and his dear wife with 5 year old grandchild (at least by now)????

We can not be sure that it was Peter and his wife that Patrick saw next to the sleasy sex ads. Patrick knew enough about Adland to state that the pictures of members next to the sex ads did not mean that they were part of the sex promotion. A newcomer to Adland may not know that and he or she could get the wrong idea. Patrick pointed out the fact that the couple (probably Peter) may not know that Bogdan allows pictures of his members in the sidebar when the sex ads are being pimped.

The place is full of porn and scams so it is not surprising that responsible people are deserting the sinking ship. I would like to be a fly on the wall when Peter tackles Bogdan on Patrick's comments.

[scratchycat]

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[Soapboxmom]

That is great. We need to get Scamlandpro as much attention as possible!

[scratchycat]

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Interesting post here, the last one and someone has mentioned one of the names on that list just recently.

[path2prosperity]

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Interesting post here, the last one and someone has mentioned one of the names on that list just recently.

I think that we should check LaNell's Buisiness Ventures forum as often as we check VanBeenkoms for the scam amd scammer of the day's offering. La Nell does not appear to be promoting her own scams but she is a very popular member of Adlandpro and the fact that these "Business Opportunities" are advertised in her forum, will encourages newcommers to part with their money.

LaNell will cave under pressure and we should do our best to get her farce of a business opportunities forum above the radar, so that she comes to her senses and do something constructive.

[path2prosperity]

5-Post your business ventures and misc topics everyone and get noticed. | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2512167/Post-your-business-ventures-and-misc-topics-everyone-and-get-noticed/5.aspx)

Interesting post here, the last one and someone has mentioned one of the names on that list just recently.

There are a lot of people asking about the whereabouts of Carol Salisbury, who had appeared to have vanished into thin air. Carol and Jill Backman were probably Scamland's biggest Bowdoin promoters. Neither have come forward to denounce the man or apologise to those whom they lured into his clutches. Jill promotes her polytheistic (pagan) religious views on her Mountain of Crap forum in Adland and now we find Carol promoting messages that have supposedly been discovered on the shroud of Turin.

Fortunately law enforcement has details of all associated with Andy Bowdoin including Jill and Carol. It makes a lot of sense to avoid any financial or spiritual advice from either of these people.

[Soapboxmom]

Boggy boy has done another 180. Apparently, today he is feelin' the love:

http://realscamclassactionsuit.com/699 (http://realscamclassactionsuit.com/)

[Whip]

Boggy boy has done another 180. Apparently, today he is feelin' the love:

http://realscamclassactionsuit.com/699 (http://realscamclassactionsuit.com/)

He's finally acknowledging we are correct and is forgiving his scammers for the trouble they are causing.

[scratchycat]

Boggy boy has done another 180. Apparently, today he is feelin' the love:

http://realscamclassactionsuit.com/699 (http://realscamclassactionsuit.com/)

Nice, I even like the wording.

Thanks for posting SBM.

[path2prosperity]

Perhaps some of his members went beserk when they realised that it could be their picture in the sidebar, when ALP showed the sleasy sex ads. The good thing is that he has dropped the ridiculous threats to sue his critics.

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

He's finally acknowledging we are correct and is forgiving his scammers for the trouble they are causing.


http://www.piano.christrup.net/PIANO/FORUM/rofl.gif

Now look what you've done to my keyboard! It's got coffee all over it. lol

[path2prosperity]

Has Maurice Bernier deserted the sinking Scamlandpro ship? His F5millionaires Club seeems to have disappeard. Did the fact that BoggyBoy failed to convince Howard Kennedy's libel solicitor Julian weired that what I have said on my website about him and Jill Bachman was libel?

Maurice still promotes The Power of Income for Life (ThePowerOfOneIncome4Life Forum !) on Scamland but his followers seem few and far between now. Reports of payments from this are dwindling very fast.

Last Bernier payment reported for Power Of Income For life appears to have been in February (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2427683/Reply-Here-For-Got-Paid-OR-Received-Signup-From-The-Power-Of-ONE-Income-4-Life/21.aspx)

[EagleOne]

While he may be feeling the love, I didn't get the impression that he has dropped anything. So I guess this means I am missing something about his love-in post.

Hopefully it does mean he has dropped it, but with him I am not convinced he has. I trust this guy about as far as I could toss a ton of bricks.

[path2prosperity]

[B][COLOR="#0000CD"]While he may be feeling the love, I didn't get the impression that he has dropped anything. So I guess this means I am missing something about his love-in post.

I trust his main henchmen (Bachman and Bernier) even less. WHY HAS BOGGY SPENT BIG BUCKS TO TRY AND GET COMMENTS ABOUT OTHERS REMOVED FROM MY SITE AND RS? I could understand his trying it on, if he were defending his own backside.

[littleroundman]

WHY HAS BOGGY SPENT BIG BUCKS TO TRY AND GET COMMENTS ABOUT OTHERS REMOVED FROM MY SITE AND RS?

The simple answer is, he had no choice.

He's been promoting his site as a legitimate business opportunity forum.

He has a number of members who really DO (or DID) believe what he was saying.

He couldn't afford to lose them, and they expected him to defend his honour, which is what a legitimate forum owner would do.

So, he either:

* admitted what people were saying was true, and lost the true believers
or
* didn't defend himself, thereby virtually admitting his guilt.

At least forums like Talkgold and MMG don't pretend to be anything else but HYIP ponzi promoters.

Fiedur, on the other hand, professes to be "legit"

No forum of that type can survive without true believers bringing in new money.

They CERTAINLY can't profit, or survive, if the only members are the scam promoters themselves.

Even desperadoes such as Kathleen Vanbeekom would soon tire of preaching to the converted.

Fiedur HAD to roll the dice and hope his critics backed down.

[Whip]

I trust his main henchmen (Bachman and Bernier) even less. WHY HAS BOGGY SPENT BIG BUCKS TO TRY AND GET COMMENTS ABOUT OTHERS REMOVED FROM MY SITE AND RS? I could understand his trying it on, if he were defending his own backside.

Is there any proof he/they actually spent any money?

[scratchycat]

http://www.piano.christrup.net/PIANO/FORUM/rofl.gif

Now look what you've done to my keyboard! It's got coffee all over it. lol

You are correct LORM, it is best to just laugh about it! The hate forums are still there.


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By Peter Fogel.

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By Peter Fogel.



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[scratchycat]

And, don't forget this one. These are treasures of the bad wolf Peter Fogel.

Musings On The New Goodwill Ambassador by Peter fogel And Friends | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2430617/Musings-On-The-New-Goodwill-Ambassador-by-Peter-fogel-And-Friends.aspx?flag=26)

[scratchycat]

The Hate Mongers hold on to their treasure houses:

Cyber-bullying News? SG Blowhard is a CYBERBULLY! | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2506300/Cyberbullying-News-SG-Blowhard-is-a-CYBERBULLY.aspx?flag=13)

This one is nothing but a hate thread:

The Case Against Barack Hussein Obama | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/1136991/The-Case-Against-Barack-Hussein-Obama.aspx?flag=235)

Why do people spread this kind of manure and seem to enjoy it??

[scratchycat]

Has Maurice Bernier deserted the sinking Scamlandpro ship? His F5millionaires Club seeems to have disappeard. Did the fact that BoggyBoy failed to convince Howard Kennedy's libel solicitor Julian weired that what I have said on my website about him and Jill Bachman was libel?

Maurice still promotes The Power of Income for Life (ThePowerOfOneIncome4Life Forum !) on Scamland but his followers seem few and far between now. Reports of payments from this are dwindling very fast.

Last Bernier payment reported for Power Of Income For life appears to have been in February (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2427683/Reply-Here-For-Got-Paid-OR-Received-Signup-From-The-Power-Of-ONE-Income-4-Life/21.aspx)

I have noticed this also P2P but some members are still promoting it in signatures, go figure...

[scratchycat]

The simple answer is, he had no choice.

He's been promoting his site as a legitimate business opportunity forum.

He has a number of members who really DO (or DID) believe what he was saying.

He couldn't afford to lose them, and they expected him to defend his honour, which is what a legitimate forum owner would do.

So, he either:

* admitted what people were saying was true, and lost the true believers
or
* didn't defend himself, thereby virtually admitting his guilt.

At least forums like Talkgold and MMG don't pretend to be anything else but HYIP ponzi promoters.

Fiedur, on the other hand, professes to be "legit"

No forum of that type can survive without true believers bringing in new money.

They CERTAINLY can't profit, or survive, if the only members are the scam promoters themselves.

Even desperadoes such as Kathleen Vanbeekom would soon tire of preaching to the converted.

Fiedur HAD to roll the dice and hope his critics backed down.

I agree with this. Yet there are still some people in there thinking they can make a difference by "working" for him for FREE. To me that is the joke to laugh about. Poor Mark if only he knew.

[scratchycat]

Is there any proof he/they actually spent any money?

I await an answer to this one Whip. We know someone had to pay that Julian person or the law firm for that letter sent to P2P, I am sure they didn't do it for free unless of course it also was a FAKE.

[Whip]

I await an answer to this one Whip. We know someone had to pay that Julian person or the law firm for that letter sent to P2P, I am sure they didn't do it for free unless of course it also was a FAKE.

Not necessarily. There are attorneys that will 'help a friend' for free. If you know what I mean. I believe they may be in bed with him is why that's why Judy hasn't gotten any more responses from them. I have an attorney who is legit and he'll send a delinquent paying customer a collection type letter for me for free. And he will actually talk to the customer.

[Soapboxmom]

I await an answer to this one Whip. We know someone had to pay that Julian person or the law firm for that letter sent to P2P, I am sure they didn't do it for free unless of course it also was a FAKE.
I e-mailed several people at the British law firm and asked if they really intended to represent that lying scamster Bogdan Fiedur, so I know the letter was legit. The PR manager from the firm was very concerned about this thread with Julian Weider's name in it and we spoke on the phone about it. As we can see, once Mr. Weider had the facts he bailed. I bet Bogdan paid through the nose for that letter. That idiot Tim Darnell paid $2,500.00 to send me a Cease and Desist letter. Rep X e-mailed and called that attorney and after a gander at Tim's threatening, lie-filled e-mails and the Summary Judgment from his frivolous harassment suit against the BBB that very reputable attorney from the NY based law firm dumped the boy like a hot potato. Obviously, as our dear Judy never heard from the lawyer at all he dropped that lying nut, Bogdan, like a hot potato as well.

Soapboxmom

[path2prosperity]

Is there any proof he/they actually spent any money?

I received a letter from a well known British law firm threatening to sue me for gross libel about Bachman and Bernier. BoggyBoy may have paid the solicitor to write the letter or somebodt posing as BoggyBoy may have written it. I sent the letter to the senior partner as I was concerned that it could be a fake. It was not and SBM has spoken to the solicitor who wrote it.

They have not taken any action against me, so it looks as if the law firm are not interestrd in persuing the matter.

[path2prosperity]

Who is behind the latest from Scamland Soundadz? (http://soundadz.com/)

The filth will all come out in the wash but I may not be around to tell the tale. Glad that you are about thirty years younger than I am SBM.

[path2prosperity]

Every dog has it's day! BoggyBoy, Bachman and Bernier have had theirs.

[scratchycat]

Who is behind the latest from Scamland Soundadz? (http://soundadz.com/)

The filth will all come out in the wash but I may not be around to tell the tale. Glad that you are about thirty years younger than I am SBM.



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6296 Freedom Hill Way
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United States

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Domain Name: SOUNDADZ.COM
Created on: 25-May-11
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Last Updated on: 25-May-11

Administrative Contact:
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Income Way Inc.
6296 Freedom Hill Way
Herriman, Utah 84096
United States
(800) 403-2270

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Thompson, Stan stan@incomeway.com
Income Way Inc.
6296 Freedom Hill Way
Herriman, Utah 84096
United States
(800) 403-2270

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[scratchycat]

Registrant:
Income Way Inc.
6296 Freedom Hill Way
Herriman, UT 84096
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (Go Daddy Mobile - Domain Search, Go Daddy Commercials (http://www.godaddy.com))
Domain Name: INCOMEWAY.COM
Created on: 29-Oct-04
Expires on: 29-Oct-13
Last Updated on: 07-Oct-08

Administrative Contact:
Thompson, Stan
Income Way Inc.
6296 Freedom Hill Way
Herriman, UT 84096
United States
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Technical Contact:
Thompson, Stan
Income Way Inc.
6296 Freedom Hill Way
Herriman, UT 84096
United States
8004032270 Fax --

[scratchycat]

I think that we should check Lxxx's Buisiness Ventures forum as often as we check VanBeenkoms for the scam amd scammer of the day's offering. Lxxx does not appear to be promoting her own scams but she is a very popular member of Adlandpro and the fact that these "Business Opportunities" are advertised in her forum, will encourages newcommers to part with their money.

Lxxx will cave under pressure and we should do our best to get her farce of a business opportunities forum above the radar, so that she comes to her senses and do something constructive.

Lxxx has vanished from Scamlandpro and deleted that forum P2P. Kathleen is still carrying the water bucket.

[path2prosperity]

Lxxx has vanished from Scamlandpro and deleted that forum P2P. Kathleen is still carrying the water bucket.

I am glad that the person has finally had the sense to desert Scamland. She did not give the impression of somebody out to scam or steal from others. However another extremely popular Scamland member has opened a forum called
Some of The Best Online Programs Ever. (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/18744/Some-of-the-Best-Online-Business-Programs-Ever.aspx)

This person was promoting Bernier's F5Mmilionaires Club for a long time and that placed him in a very bad light. Has he seen the light or has Bernier done a runner?
This particular Adlander is avery convincing and informed person who could be a very dangerous pimp. As I have said before, who is victim and who is villian in that quagmire? I am utterly disgusted to see that man running a phony biz opps forum. Perhaps one of his friends will point it out to him.

[scratchycat]

I am glad that the person has finally had the sense to desert Scamland. She did not give the impression of somebody out to scam or steal from others. However another extremely popular Scamland member has opened a forum called
Some of The Best Online Programs Ever. (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/18744/Some-of-the-Best-Online-Business-Programs-Ever.aspx)

This person was promoting Bernier's F5Mmilionaires Club for a long time and that placed him in a very bad light. Has he seen the light or has Bernier done a runner?
This particular Adlander is avery convincing and informed person who could be a very dangerous pimp. As I have said before, who is victim and who is villian in that quagmire? I am utterly disgusted to see that man running a phony biz opps forum. Perhaps one of his friends will point it out to him.

It looks as though he does not post there but allows others to promote scam and 'programs' - just as bad probably. The F5M is still in signature wonder if he realizes he is not making any money with it... Oh yes, if he turns bad he could be dangerous because I fully admit he is a CHARMER and women in particular just love him and not to mention he has a great voice. :brokenheart:

[scratchycat]

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[scratchycat]

Just learned this morning there was a response to comments about Scamland being down!


If someone listened and really helped close this place, THANK YOU!! Adlandpro pages give this message 503 Service Unavailable!!
Thursday, March 08, 2012, 8:09:38 AM– werestillhere
and you aint
3 days ago, 3:58:40 PM– sara
Thank God, I am not a part of that despicable place!! Just a matter of time...
Today, 10:11:04 AM–

So someone with very bad English is letting me know they are still there and I am not!! I find that laughable!! :RpS_smile:

More Proof (http://www.sagariexpressions.com/Discussions/moreproof.html)