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drtish73
09-14-2011, 02:35 AM
Poor li'l drtish has obviously never heard the First Law of Holes:

"When you're in one, stop digging"

He is so determined to bury himself, he's providing his own dirt.

you must have been in many to know such rules.

With the article below i can see why these things happen people as ignorant as you do exist,

Despite the High Court's recent scuttling of the so-called 'Malaysia solution' to Australia's perceived boat-people problem, the Gillard government still seems sunk in confusion and denial, if not outright defiance.

The court ruling was plain enough; because 'Malaysia is not a party to the Refugees Convention or its protocol', the human rights of people sent there cannot be assured, and thus it is against both Australian and international law to send people there against their will.

I'm personally inclined to put the case less politely than this, in citing as a precedent the old proverb that 'if you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas'.

The Gillard government has long been aware, or should have been, that the Umno/BN government of Malaysia is an absolute dog when it comes to human rights for not just refugees but its own citizens.

So it's laughable to see Immigration Minister Chris Bowen scratching his head in bewilderment at the High Court decision denying him the right to deliver helpless human beings into the clutches of this corrupt and outright criminal regime.

And ludicrous that he's still muttering his mantra of “breaking the people-traffickers' business model” given that this is the 'model' that is covertly permitted and supported by the very authorities with whom he made the now-defunct agreement.

In any case, Bowen and his colleagues in the Australian government, like the opposition under the similarly addled Tony Abbott with its punitive and also arguably illegal 'Pacific solution', should be focusing their attentions on assisting people fleeing repression and persecution, not using these helpless victims to punish those who prey on their desperation.

But, still stubbornly refusing to take the High Court's 'No' for its final answer, the Gillard government is now attempting to achieve a bipartisan agreement with the opposition to amend the immigration legislation and thus open the way for Australia to proceed with trafficking refugees to Malaysia.

This not only flies in the face of international law and overwhelming evidence of the inhumanity of Malaysia's Umno/BN regime, but also against the wishes of a clear majority of Australian voters.

According to the latest opinion poll published by the Sydney Morning Herald, 54 percent of all voters believe that asylum seekers arriving by sea should be permitted to land and be assessed in Australia. The figure rises to 62 percent of the Labor government's own supporters. And Gillard's approval rating has sunk from 43 percent in May to 32 percent today.

So, besides being a fundamentally bad idea to do seedy deals with regimes like Umno/BN, the Gillard government's bloody-minded determination to stick with its Malaysian concept appears electorally suicidal.

Especially in view of the fact that its parliamentary majority is so razor-thin that its survival depends on a mere handful of independent MPs, and could soon be diminished further as a result of corruption allegations besetting one of its sitting members back from his days as a union official.

Meanwhile, according to a report by the ABC, the UN High Commissioner for Refugees is calling for a “serious review and serious reform” of Australia's system of mandatory detention of asylum-seekers, with particular concern to unaccompanied minors.

Stupid side-shows

As for the Malaysian side of the refugee deal, who knows? There are always so many scandals dogging the Umno/BN regime that the refugee-swap deal with Australia is just a flea-bite by comparison.

Dozens if not hundreds of suspicious deaths in at the hands of law-enforcement agencies continue to remain unresolved and many cases uninvestigated.

There has been the usual bloodbath on Malaysia's roads during the Hari Raya holidays.

Financial scams involving crony contractors, government-linked corporations and toll concessionaires continue unabated. The regime is still doing everything in its power to delay or deny the need for electoral reforms.

And, as vividly illustrated in Zunar's latest cartoon 'Weapon of mass distraction', Umno/BN keeps trying to divert public attention from its criminal acts and derelictions with a series of stupid side-shows.

Like the seemingly endless sodomy trial of Anwar Ibrahim, the outrageous 'Datuk T sex-tape' scam, and now a 'debate' on whether Malaysia was formerly a colony of Britain, or actually just a 'protectorate'.

This diversionary tactic isn't working too well, however, as Malaysians seem increasingly sick of the regime's continual rewriting of history in support of its false claim to have led the nation's 'struggle' for independence.

Whatever the terminological niceties involved, the fact is that Britain ruled and ripped-off Malaya for centuries, then coolly handed the country over to the so-called Alliance, now re-branded as Umno/BN, which has since proceeded with its own programme of repression and robbery.

With the result that, from all the comments I've seen on the net, most people seem to consider that today Malaysia needs not some fatuous and spurious 'colony' debate, but something more like a colonectomy - radical removal of the Umno/BN malignancies of which the nation has long had such a gut-full; a surgical purge of all the parasites infesting the bowels of the body-politic.

It should be the same kind of treatment that the Australian electorate a few years ago meted out to the Howard federal government - and looks set to shortly subject the Gillard government to this, if it doggedly persists in flying in the face of legality and morality in pursuing its dodgy refugee deal with the verminous Umno/BN regime.








DEAN JOHNS, after many years in Asia, currently lives with his Malaysian-born wife and daughter in Sydney, where he coaches and mentors writers and authors and practises as a writing therapist. Published books of his columns for Malaysiakini include 'Mad about Malaysia', 'Even Madder about Malaysia', 'Missing Malaysia' and '1Malaysia.con'.

okosh
09-14-2011, 05:02 AM
you must have been in many to know such rules.

With the article below i can see why these things happen people as ignorant as you do exist,

Despite the High Court's recent scuttling of the so-called 'Malaysia solution' to Australia's perceived boat-people problem, the Gillard government still seems sunk in confusion and denial, if not outright defiance.

The court ruling was plain enough; because 'Malaysia is not a party to the Refugees Convention or its protocol', the human rights of people sent there cannot be assured, and thus it is against both Australian and international law to send people there against their will.

I'm personally inclined to put the case less politely than this, in citing as a precedent the old proverb that 'if you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas'.

The Gillard government has long been aware, or should have been, that the Umno/BN government of Malaysia is an absolute dog when it comes to human rights for not just refugees but its own citizens.

So it's laughable to see Immigration Minister Chris Bowen scratching his head in bewilderment at the High Court decision denying him the right to deliver helpless human beings into the clutches of this corrupt and outright criminal regime.

And ludicrous that he's still muttering his mantra of “breaking the people-traffickers' business model” given that this is the 'model' that is covertly permitted and supported by the very authorities with whom he made the now-defunct agreement.

In any case, Bowen and his colleagues in the Australian government, like the opposition under the similarly addled Tony Abbott with its punitive and also arguably illegal 'Pacific solution', should be focusing their attentions on assisting people fleeing repression and persecution, not using these helpless victims to punish those who prey on their desperation.

But, still stubbornly refusing to take the High Court's 'No' for its final answer, the Gillard government is now attempting to achieve a bipartisan agreement with the opposition to amend the immigration legislation and thus open the way for Australia to proceed with trafficking refugees to Malaysia.

This not only flies in the face of international law and overwhelming evidence of the inhumanity of Malaysia's Umno/BN regime, but also against the wishes of a clear majority of Australian voters.

According to the latest opinion poll published by the Sydney Morning Herald, 54 percent of all voters believe that asylum seekers arriving by sea should be permitted to land and be assessed in Australia. The figure rises to 62 percent of the Labor government's own supporters. And Gillard's approval rating has sunk from 43 percent in May to 32 percent today.

So, besides being a fundamentally bad idea to do seedy deals with regimes like Umno/BN, the Gillard government's bloody-minded determination to stick with its Malaysian concept appears electorally suicidal.

Especially in view of the fact that its parliamentary majority is so razor-thin that its survival depends on a mere handful of independent MPs, and could soon be diminished further as a result of corruption allegations besetting one of its sitting members back from his days as a union official.

Meanwhile, according to a report by the ABC, the UN High Commissioner for Refugees is calling for a “serious review and serious reform” of Australia's system of mandatory detention of asylum-seekers, with particular concern to unaccompanied minors.

Stupid side-shows

As for the Malaysian side of the refugee deal, who knows? There are always so many scandals dogging the Umno/BN regime that the refugee-swap deal with Australia is just a flea-bite by comparison.

Dozens if not hundreds of suspicious deaths in at the hands of law-enforcement agencies continue to remain unresolved and many cases uninvestigated.

There has been the usual bloodbath on Malaysia's roads during the Hari Raya holidays.

Financial scams involving crony contractors, government-linked corporations and toll concessionaires continue unabated. The regime is still doing everything in its power to delay or deny the need for electoral reforms.

And, as vividly illustrated in Zunar's latest cartoon 'Weapon of mass distraction', Umno/BN keeps trying to divert public attention from its criminal acts and derelictions with a series of stupid side-shows.

Like the seemingly endless sodomy trial of Anwar Ibrahim, the outrageous 'Datuk T sex-tape' scam, and now a 'debate' on whether Malaysia was formerly a colony of Britain, or actually just a 'protectorate'.

This diversionary tactic isn't working too well, however, as Malaysians seem increasingly sick of the regime's continual rewriting of history in support of its false claim to have led the nation's 'struggle' for independence.

Whatever the terminological niceties involved, the fact is that Britain ruled and ripped-off Malaya for centuries, then coolly handed the country over to the so-called Alliance, now re-branded as Umno/BN, which has since proceeded with its own programme of repression and robbery.

With the result that, from all the comments I've seen on the net, most people seem to consider that today Malaysia needs not some fatuous and spurious 'colony' debate, but something more like a colonectomy - radical removal of the Umno/BN malignancies of which the nation has long had such a gut-full; a surgical purge of all the parasites infesting the bowels of the body-politic.

It should be the same kind of treatment that the Australian electorate a few years ago meted out to the Howard federal government - and looks set to shortly subject the Gillard government to this, if it doggedly persists in flying in the face of legality and morality in pursuing its dodgy refugee deal with the verminous Umno/BN regime.








DEAN JOHNS, after many years in Asia, currently lives with his Malaysian-born wife and daughter in Sydney, where he coaches and mentors writers and authors and practises as a writing therapist. Published books of his columns for Malaysiakini include 'Mad about Malaysia', 'Even Madder about Malaysia', 'Missing Malaysia' and '1Malaysia.con'.

Though completely off topic here....
This decision by the high court of Australia is the best decision they ever made.....(And was one of the fastest)...
The Gillard Gov is a disgrace.....
They should either build more detention centers here in Aus(which states like WA are begging for) or bite the bullet and admit that they got it wrong when they closed Naru which was a great solution during the Howard days...
Malaysia was a rediculous option....

Maybe admin can split the thread and make new thread about this topic :RpS_wink:

littleroundman
09-14-2011, 06:09 AM
Moved here from: AMF Ltd thread (http://www.realscam.com/f8/amf-limited-real-hyip-real-scammer-621/index2.html)

littleroundman
09-14-2011, 09:57 AM
So now we have an internet HYIP fraudster trying to divert attention away from his own wrongdoings by introducing a completely unrelated matter onto the forum.

What's more, showing all the class of your typical opportunistic HYIP ponzi promoter, he's using the plight of a handful of unfortunates who seek a better life for themselves and their families to further his own cause.

You, "drtish" are nothing but a lowlife snake and beneath contempt.

You are also persona non grata here.

In plain English,

piss off and go and play in your own mud pond.