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littleroundman

11-28-2012, 02:18 AM

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/2969/profitj.jpg

ProfitClicking thread, Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5002183&postcount=4086)

littleroundman

11-30-2012, 04:25 AM

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9550/profiti.jpg

ProfitClicking thread, Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5004405&postcount=4108)

littleroundman

11-30-2012, 04:32 AM

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1308/pcmmg.jpg

post #25810 (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Profit-Clicking-Profitc-t329007.html&view=findpost&p=7367352#entry7367352) and post #25811 (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Profit-Clicking-Profitc-t329007.html&view=findpost&p=7367373#entry7367373) and post #25812 (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Profit-Clicking-Profitc-t329007.html&view=findpost&p=7367386#entry7367386) in the ProfitClicking thread on MoneyMaker Group HYIP ponzi forum

EagleOne

11-30-2012, 04:53 PM

scratchycat

12-01-2012, 12:33 PM

Facebook bloggers have not caught on yet - or maybe they have and continue to scam others:

Stuart Naturinda Biz Concepts 1:18pm Dec 1

I trusted you so much but your mouth is never shut!
Why did you tel others my secret?
You really disappointed me.
Please,stop telling everybody that I was born naked! lol
It's time to make more money online, wake up and go!
Click on PROFIT CLICKING (http://www.naturinda.ws/profitclicking) and see a company that pays 50% profit in 50 days on shares you buy from them!

PROFIT CLICKING (http://www.naturinda.ws/profitclicking)

Someone removed the post from Get Your Blog Followers in FB!!

baylee

12-02-2012, 07:32 PM

I bet my2sense is going nuts. She kept complaining about all my negativity about PC, and it was nowhere close to what the members are saying. And the group of "negative members" is growing daily. They are finally getting it. It sure is fun to watch.

It is always interesting to watch the true believers realize they have been scammed and watch how the posts change.

mharriman

12-05-2012, 03:13 PM

Everyone is attacking ProfitClicking, attacking their products, and even attacking PC leaders, but after the smoke clears, PC members will be the last ones standing.

baylee

12-05-2012, 03:55 PM

Everyone is attacking ProfitClicking, attacking their products, and even attacking PC leaders, but after the smoke clears, PC members will be the last ones standing.

LOL, they will be standing and yelling SCAM!!!!!!!!

EagleOne

12-06-2012, 05:47 PM

In the "this is just too funny" category comes a private message from my2sense regarding my last post in the PC thread at MMG. She is on a mission to get me banned. She doesn't appreciate my posts, but conveniently omits all the PC members who say far worse than I am saying. Makes me wonder if she PM's them too complaining about all their negative posts. I am betting she doesn't.

And of course she is going to get mad because I am not responding to her PM. I wonder why she even bothers when all she does is name-call and a personal attack instead of asking a question for me to have something to respond to her about. But if she thinks I am going to answer a PM that all it does it tell me what a louse I am, etc, etc., she needs mental help.

You know the war is won when all the shills have only name-calling and personal attacks left to defend their Ponzi de Jour.

My only reason for posting this here is to show newbies how they do it, and hopefully they will learn to spot them and know how they operate so they don't fall victim.

Now if my2sense wants to take objection to what I have posted, please come and say so here. Your post will not get deleted, and I will engage you but only here. So give it your best shot, unless of course you are too chicken to do so.

Whip

12-07-2012, 12:35 AM

I think we need to see the PM as an example :)

littleroundman

12-07-2012, 12:43 AM

I think we need to see the PM as an example :)

There'd be no point.

As far as I know, none of us speak or understand "gibberish"

EagleOne

12-07-2012, 12:48 AM

LRM, while true can't as I deleted it as I have her other PM's complaining about my posts. I also wouldn't unless she gave me permission to do so. But I did receive a follow-up PM regarding my invite to her posting here. She said she wouldn't because of the "boundaries," whatever that is supposed to mean. I gave her my word that her posts would not be deleted or would she get banned for saying her piece, so will see if she takes me up on my offer.

laidback

12-07-2012, 12:49 AM

There'd be no point.

As far as I know, none of us speak or understand "gibberish"
I have been the recipient of a couple of her posts also, and you're right, a retarded turkey makes more sense.

Whip

12-07-2012, 12:49 AM

Strictly comedic value.

okosh

12-07-2012, 01:05 AM

littleroundman

12-07-2012, 01:56 AM

Tell her that Okosh is here waiting for his new toy to play with :chickendance:

Yeah, it's a shame really.

Just when you get them trained up, BANG, down goes another HYIP ponzi and you have to start all over again

littleroundman

12-07-2012, 02:14 AM

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/7481/screw.jpg

Post #4211 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5011822&postcount=4211) and post #4212 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5011867&postcount=4212) in the ProfitClicking thread on Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum.

littleroundman

12-07-2012, 02:24 AM

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3466/corsairq.jpg

Post #26997 Just Been Paid / ProfitClicking thread, MMG HIP ponzi forum (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Profit-Clicking-Profitc-t329007.html&view=findpost&p=7378717#entry7378717)

path2prosperity

12-07-2012, 06:09 AM

Perhaps The "Angel Gabriel" and "Brother Jesus" are short of funds. Scamland's Person of The Week, Louis Muguel Goitizolo explains all on page 3487 onward on

Adlandpro. Mountain of Love

Type http:// then add community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/569870/A-Journey-to-the-Mountain-of-Love/3489.aspx

Louis' personal appeal for more Profit Clicker support (http://profitclicking.com/?r=krishnanand).

scratchycat

12-07-2012, 09:38 AM

https://www.ultimatepowerprofits.com/index.cfm?c=affiliates&username=mypro (Paradigm Shift)

Another with profit clicking in profile but it takes you to Miguel's page, she apparently signed up under him. The one in middle has dropped PC from her signature but still has this one - http://www.paradoxcash.com/salespage.php?id=213

Wonder if any of those are in the TG and MMG forums??

littleroundman

12-07-2012, 08:44 PM

Uh Oh,

when the prince of pimps, Ken Russo/DRdave says a HYIP ponzi is dead, you'd better believe it's D-E-A-D

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1921/59965813.jpg

okosh

12-07-2012, 10:28 PM

Uh Oh,

when the prince of pimps, Ken Russo/DRdave says a HYIP ponzi is dead, you'd better believe it's D-E-A-D

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1921/59965813.jpg

So ken has not sent any updates to his downline for months cos he thinks PC is dead.....But during those months he's had no problem collecting reff commish from the purchases made by his downline...
What a scumbag.....

littleroundman

12-07-2012, 10:33 PM

So ken has not sent any updates to his downline for months cos he thinks PC is dead.....But during those months he's had no problem collecting reff commish from the purchases made by his downline...
What a scumbag.....

And, is anyone surprised ????

baylee

12-07-2012, 10:43 PM

And, is anyone surprised ????

No, I have known that he is the king of Scumbags for a very long time!

mharriman

12-08-2012, 01:22 AM

EagleOne

12-08-2012, 02:38 AM

ProfitClicking keeps on growing while everyone complains. The membership is so large how can everyone be satisfied at the same time. I see some members are getting paid and there seems to be an improvement on the withdraw system.

What you have to understand is that only a very select few are being paid, and then we have the shills who are paid to "claim" they have been paid. I doubt if 1/10 of 1% has actually been paid. But believe what you will, it is still a Ponzi. They said the same thing about ASD, 12DP, Megalido, PhoenixSurf, Zeek Rewards, and the list goes on and on and all of them have crashed and burned by running with the money or being shut down by the feds. This is no different, and the time for them to run with the money is almost here. If this latest rash of "I got paid" posts doesn't work to attract enough newbies and the gullible into this, this is toast before the New Year.

littleroundman

12-09-2012, 08:24 PM

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/8995/pctalk.gif

Post #4249 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5014220&postcount=4249) and post #4250 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5014232&postcount=4250) in the ProfitClicking thread on the Talkgold HYIP ponzi foruM

baylee

12-09-2012, 09:12 PM

This bucket Horsecrap reminds me of an old joke that I heard 40 years ago!

" One day a bill collector called a a man who owed his business money. The bill collector told him that he had not been paid in a couple of months. He said he wanted his money or at least payments until the man got got caught up on what was owed to him. The man told the bill collector that he had only so much money and he put all of his creditors names in a bucket and paid the ones drawn out until all his money was gone! He then told the bill collector that if he continued to bother him in such a manor with calling him or posting on the different forums he would take his name out of the bucket altogether and call him a Nay-Sayer, Dream stealer, or a negative person!

Oh, and steal all of his money supposedly invested.

Lesson learned! This is what these Pimps, Shills, and Scammers do.

littleroundman

12-09-2012, 09:22 PM

Yep,

HYIP ponzi operators have got it made.

When the HYIP starts collapsing, all they have to do is call up more pimps, shills and "monitors" to post more "I got paid" posts on the usual suspect HYIP ponzi forums and the "true believers" can't get their money out of their wallets fast enough to deposit even more.

littleroundman

12-11-2012, 06:11 AM

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/3002/pctoday.jpg

Posts number 4257 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5015245&postcount=4257) and 4258 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5015393&postcount=4258) and 4259 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5015458&postcount=4259) in the ProfitClicking thread on Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum

scratchycat

12-11-2012, 08:54 AM

http://www.profitclicking.com/?r=vx22utyvqyp9

She just knows it is not a scam!

Hi Stephen,

This is a great idea.

I know this one is a good one.

http://www.profitclicking.com/?r=vx22utyvqyp9
I haven't been a member for too long, but I know it is not a scam site. :duh:

littleroundman

12-14-2012, 02:05 AM

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2615/profitz.jpg

JustBeen Paid / ProfitClicking thread, Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5018007&postcount=4271)

littleroundman

12-14-2012, 02:46 AM

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/money.jpg

JustBeenPaid / Profitclicking thread, Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5018143&postcount=4272)

AHA !!!!

I think I've figured out why MoneyMakingBrainless hasn't graced this thread with his scintillating wit and financial genius lately.

littleroundman

12-17-2012, 07:42 PM

Desperate times mean desperate measures:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/sueme.jpg

I don't think anyone needs to be particularly worried about being "sued" by a HYIP ponzi.

One wonders just how what sort of reputation "Jardine Law Offices" will come out of it's association with JustBeen Paid / Profitclicking.

That is, of course, if "Jardine Law Offices" actually exist or the correspondence came from them and not some JustBeen Paid / ProfitClicking flunky.

NikSam

12-19-2012, 03:05 PM

.... if "Jardine Law Offices" actually exist ...

LRM, I am surprised that you forgot Joseph Jardine (the criminal trial lawyer), you were very active in 2009 on scam.com when this gang's
past scams were discussed and JJ Ulrich himself participated. go to thread "Elite Activity - the arrests have begun" on scam.com to refresh your memory.

Chris, HYIP-pulse blog owner (screenshot above) is preparing a big article on real people behind PC and their past scams, and requesting anyone
to provide anything they think is interesting with the source of information.

Thanks.

Whip

12-19-2012, 07:53 PM

LRM, I am surprised that you forgot Joseph Jardine (the criminal trial lawyer), you were very active in 2009 on scam.com when this gang's
past scams were discussed and JJ Ulrich himself participated. go to thread "Elite Activity - the arrests have begun" on scam.com to refresh your memory.

Chris, HYIP-pulse blog owner (screenshot above) is preparing a big article on real people behind PC and their past scams, and requesting anyone
to provide anything they think is interesting with the source of information.

Thanks.

Thanks. I knew the name sounded familiar for some reason.

baylee

12-19-2012, 09:19 PM

I just love the pimps and shills at MMG. It is most amusing to read their lies!

ProfHenryHiggins

12-19-2012, 10:40 PM

Jardine is involved again?

Hmm... makes one wonder who else he's represented in the period between springing Harvey Dockstader from jail and now.
And whether there are any other HYIPs, Ponzis, or pyramids among his clients in that time frame.

NikSam

12-20-2012, 01:10 AM

Jardine is involved again?

Not only him, the whole Elite Activity gang is behind ProfitClicking
JJ Ulrich, HJ Dockstader, Joe Read

Joseph Jardine is like their "family" lawyer :)

Whip

12-20-2012, 10:32 AM

Not only him, the whole Elite Activity gang is behind ProfitClicking
JJ Ulrich, HJ Dockstader, Joe Read

Joseph Jardine is like their "family" lawyer :)

Yeah....there is speculation that ulrich is 'fred mann'.

DrunkenTiger

12-20-2012, 11:30 AM

EagleOne

12-20-2012, 03:09 PM

Well I'm glad I found this forum. My uncle's had shown me profitclicking two months ago and I signed up. But didn't have the time to do anything with it. Month ago my uncle reminded me about using the free $10. So I started advertising online businesses of mine. They were telling me how they're going to put in hundreds of dollars (which they already did by now) and I was gonna put in a good amount. But I decided to look into it more and boy I'm glad I did! Now I've been advising some family of mine who are interested in it to have nothing to do with it.

Awesome forum by the way! Learning a lot.

Welcome to RS and thanks for your kind remarks. I also want to commend you for looking into this further before jumping in with both feet and doing some real due diligence. Hopefully you can get your Uncle out of this before it implodes on itself or the feds move in and shut it down. Since the bucket system is not working, it is going to be hard to do.

We wish you well in helping others from joining and getting others who are in it out of it. We look forward to more posts from you and how you are doing in spreading the word.

NikSam

12-21-2012, 05:54 AM

The story continues, HYIP-Pulse blog received another threat from legal@profitclicking.com claiming to be from Joseph Jardine Law offices.

To Whom it May Concern:

By this letter, I demand that you immediately take all necessary and appropriate steps to remove the slanderous and misleading statements you have made or promulgated through your website regarding ProfitClicking, JJ Ulrich, and Harvey Dockstader . To insinuate that they operate in a fraudulent or dishonest manner is a violation of both civil and criminal law. By republishing slanderous comments you yourself are liable for the content and consequences of those statements.

You have 48 hours to remove said material from public view. If no action on your part has occurred within that time frame, we will take all legal measures available to us to ensure their legal reputation is not jeopardized by you. These actions may include suing you, seeking injunctions against you, shutting down your webpages and/or server, and publicly denouncing your misstatements.

I am at a loss for your reckless disregard for the truth. Where is your proof that “Profitclicking is a scam?” You accuse Mr. Dockstader of illegal activity in his previous affairs. Again, what proof do you have? I hope you realize that when you accuse a person of a crime in this country, you are committing slander per se. Your only defense is if you speak the truth, and can prove it! Again I ask where is your proof? The fact is, that Mr. Dockstader has no criminal record. His conviction was overturned. Yes, he spent time in jail, but this country is full of stories of innocent people going free after wrongful convictions. For you to continue to state that he is a criminal without any law enforcement agency to back you up is foolhardy to say the least.

You may say, “ok but I didn’t say that, it was Nik.” Since you are republishing his comments without independent verification, you are responsible for his comments as well. If you are comfortable with his slew of allegations, then you better be prepared to defend them in court, as if they came from your own mouth. The damages the above-named individuals are suffering will be counted in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars.

Slanderous blogs such as yours are truly despicable. You should be ashamed of

yourself. I again demand that you remove your comments immediately. Govern yourself accordingly.

Sincerely,

Joseph Jardine

Attorney at Law

Chris (the owner of the Blog) still working on the article and might need your help.

Common guys - littleroundman, ProfHenryHiggins, wserra - you know a lot of dirt on this gang lets blow it wide open.

DrunkenTiger

12-21-2012, 11:09 AM

Welcome to RS and thanks for your kind remarks. I also want to commend you for looking into this further before jumping in with both feet and doing some real due diligence. Hopefully you can get your Uncle out of this before it implodes on itself or the feds move in and shut it down. Since the bucket system is not working, it is going to be hard to do.

We wish you well in helping others from joining and getting others who are in it out of it. We look forward to more posts from you and how you are doing in spreading the word.

Thank you. Yes I've been keeping them informed on what's going on. So one of my uncle's isn't to sure about profitclicking now. While my other uncle thinks its legit and sadly to find out he's put in a total of $900.

Ever since this past summer they've been looking for the next big thing and have come across sites that to me throw up red flags ie: bannerbrokers, ultimatepowerprofits, fastcashmega etc. So i'll keep the updates coming along and also with the new sites they try.

GlimDropper

12-21-2012, 11:07 PM

NikSam, Welcome to RealScam. Your third post contained a URL link and as an antispam measure if any new user posts a link (in their first three posts) it get's queued until approved. Sorry for the delay, your next post puts you past that restriction.

What is this blog you speak of? If there's any info there in jeopardy ask the blog owner if he'd like to archive it here. We have a bit of experience dealing with matters like this and thus far we've never deleted a word. As far as P.C. goes, I wouldn't worry much about that ever so very soon to be sunk ship.

From the letter you quoted:

You accuse Mr. Dockstader of illegal activity in his previous affairs. Again, what proof do you have? I hope you realize that when you accuse a person of a crime in this country, you are committing slander per se. Your only defense is if you speak the truth, and can prove it! Again I ask where is your proof? The fact is, that Mr. Dockstader has no criminal record. His conviction was overturned. Yes, he spent time in jail, but this country is full of stories of innocent people going free after wrongful convictions. For you to continue to state that he is a criminal without any law enforcement agency to back you up is foolhardy to say the least.

I'll quote and actual attorney on the issue of Mr. Dockstaders criminal conviction:

Re: Elite Activity Resurrected (Connecting Us All)! (http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4694&start=140#p114863)

http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/styles/Quatloos/imageset/icon_post_target.gif (http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?p=114863#p114863)by wserra (http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=195) » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:11 pm

I don't have access to Texas state court records, either, other than those indexed by Google. Moreover, while I saw Lambert's post, it doesn't matter. Here's why.

Dockstader's conviction was affirmed, in an opinion that made it clear that Elite was in fact a ponzi. He was sentenced to two years, which sentence he began serving in May of 2008 (release date 5-10-10). In March of 2010, a Texas court granted his motion for a new trial - not based on innocence, but instead on a blatant conflict of interest of his original attorney, a since-disbarred piece of work named Henry Curtis. He was released on bond in April of 2010. In other words, he served 23 months of his 24-month sentence. If he were tried a second time and convicted again, he could generally not receive a greater sentence than he did originally. North Carolina v. Pearce, 395 U. S. 711 (1969). Under these circumstances, most prosecutors (and judges) would think it a waste of time and resources to try him a second time just so that he could serve the last month of his sentence. I'm not at all surprised that's what happened.

From this thread over at Quatloos (http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4694&start=140).

littleroundman

12-21-2012, 11:25 PM

You have 48 hours to remove said material from public view. If no action on your part has occurred within that time frame, we will take all legal measures available to us to ensure their legal reputation is not jeopardized by you. These actions may include suing you, seeking injunctions against you, shutting down your webpages and/or server, and publicly denouncing your misstatements.

Personally,

I'd be inclined to tell them to go ahead with their threats.

I'd give almost anything to see Messrs Ulrich and Dockstader and/or their legal representative stand up in the discovery phase of any legal proceedings they may institute and explain to the court how their online history is "false" and/or libelous.

But that's just me and I have an inbuilt aversion to loud mouthed 'net bullies making threats.

YMMV

As Glimdropper mentioned, if you or your friends have any correspondence related to the threats, don't hesitate to forward them to any of the admins here on REALSCAM.com (http://www.realscam.com) and we will take the appropriate (very public) action.

NikSam

12-22-2012, 12:03 AM

I was bringing it up here not because blogger is afraid of any legal action or afraid of his blog being taken down. He doesn't , not at all.
It just makes him more interested to continue on the story, specifically because it drives a lot of interest from people who slowly opening their eyes.

To anybody surprise there are a lot of brainwashed members of Profitclicking who is not even aware who they are dealing with or in denial.

Am sure we can make a good illustrated case/story of this gang's activity 2001-present if we work all together.

some links if you allow me which generated interest from Jardine Law offices:
Profitclicking Scam Owned By A Scammer « HYIP-Pulse.com Blog (http://blog.hyip-pulse.com/profitclicking-scam-owned-by-a-scammer/)
Profitclicking Wants To Sue Me! LMFAO! « HYIP-Pulse.com Blog (http://blog.hyip-pulse.com/profitclicking-wants-to-sue-me-lmfao/)
Profitclicking: The Ridiculous Story Continues! « HYIP-Pulse.com Blog (http://blog.hyip-pulse.com/profitclicking-the-ridiculous-story-continues/)

(read comments there too, also interesting)

GlimDropper

12-22-2012, 12:59 AM

Thank you for the links NikSam, they make several things much more clear. HYIP-Pulse is what I'd call a "pimp blog," perhaps more honest than some but it's goal isn't to appose the ponzi games but rather to serve them. To each their own but I'd beg you to remember their attitudes towards their servants.

Here's the skinny, ask their shyster exactly, word for word what they find objectionable. This is important. Make it clear and in writing that the blog owner invites either Mr. Dockstader or his representatives to post to the blog correcting any information they feel is incorrect. Publish and address those posts. Do your research, keep a level head a civil tongue and a sharp wit about you and I'll tell you why. The magic word here is "Discovery."

If some serial scammer is stupid enough to give you a specific list of demands, particularly from an attorney, of what they want deleted from your website they have given you a list of questions they can be legally compelled to answer, under threat of perjury in the discovery process of any court action they initiate against you. Look up "discovery process" if you have questions. The last place a serial scammers want to find them self is in a court of law, especialy against anyone who's done their homework.

Don't be an a-hole and be smart about how you say it, but tell Mr. Jardine to F-himself.

okosh

12-22-2012, 01:26 AM

Personally,

I'd be inclined to tell them to go ahead with their threats.

I'd give almost anything to see Messrs Ulrich and Dockstader and/or their legal representative stand up in the discovery phase of any legal proceedings they may institute and explain to the court how their online history is "false" and/or libelous.

But that's just me and I have an inbuilt aversion to loud mouthed 'net bullies making threats.

YMMV

As Glimdropper mentioned, if you or your friends have any correspondence related to the threats, don't hesitate to forward them to any of the admins here on REALSCAM.com (http://www.realscam.com) and we will take the appropriate (very public) action.

I can see it now.....

Ulrich and Dockstader: well judge, we were running our hyip ponzi scam and some hyip blogger posted nasty things about us.....

HYIP-Pulse: Well judge I was just writing to my readers over at my referal farm about all the scams I promote and it seems I upset some admins....

Give me a friggin break.....

NikSam

12-22-2012, 03:00 AM

I can see it now.....

Ulrich and Dockstader: well judge, we were running our hyip ponzi scam and some hyip blogger posted nasty things about us.....

HYIP-Pulse: Well judge I was just writing to my readers over at my referal farm about all the scams I promote and it seems I upset some admins....

Give me a friggin break.....

yes it is funny. and sounds ridiculous but I do not believe it will reach courts :)

On the other hand i see how you think this blog is on opposite side of fighting scams, but i would say not all monitors are the same.
HYIP-Pulse Blog never ever claimed any legitimacy to any program, it just looks at the whole thing as some gambling games and try to make sure all readers
who participate in the programs are aware of it. It is a fact that some have a long-term record of profits if playing those games carefully and picking most promising ones.
According to owner no money from promotion ever cashed out but used to pay for expensive anitiDDOS (it has a lot of enemies)
and hosting, the rest is distributed to downlines in form of ref-backs and wining pool.

Well, judge him as you wish, but when he dig something up (real identities of people behind PC)
i think he deserves some support in his fight.

okosh

12-22-2012, 03:09 AM

yes it is funny. and sounds ridiculous but I do not believe it will reach courts :)

On the other hand i see how you think this blog is on opposite side of fighting scams, but i would say not all monitors are the same.
HYIP-Pulse Blog never ever claimed any legitimacy to any program, it just looks at the whole thing as some gambling games and try to make sure all readers
who participate in the programs are aware of it. It is a fact that some have a long-term record of profits if playing those games carefully and picking most promising ones.
According to owner no money from promotion ever cashed out but used to pay for expensive anitiDDOS (it has a lot of enemies)
and hosting, the rest is distributed to downlines in form of ref-backs and wining pool.

Well, judge him as you wish, but when he dig something up (real identities of people behind PC)
i think he deserves some support in his fight.

A reff whore is a reff whore is a reff whore.....

The ONLY reason for the blog(your blog??) is to gain a following to lead from scam to scam to scam so you(??) can play with other peoples money rather then your own.....

A reff whore deserve NO support when they come out and say that a program is a scam when the game is over.....
PC is dead....So how much the blog owner(you??) made while it was paying??....While it was justbeenpaid??....

NikSam

12-22-2012, 03:49 AM

A reff whore is a reff whore is a reff whore.....

The ONLY reason for the blog(your blog??) is to gain a following to lead from scam to scam to scam so you(??) can play with other peoples money rather then your own.....

A reff whore deserve NO support when they come out and say that a program is a scam when the game is over.....
PC is dead....So how much the blog owner(you??) made while it was paying??....While it was justbeenpaid??....

It is not my blog and i'm not affiliated to it in any way, i been following it for some time because i like a spirit of his articles,
you can see my comments there a lot.

He plays with his own money, you might be unaware but he doesn't really have huge amount of downlines.
You can rewind his articles back in time, he was always critical about programs which were well paying at the time including JBP/ProfitClicking.

Criticisms was because of a lot of brainwashed were showing up and claiming that some program is a real deal, no mater if it's paying or not.

Well, anyway sorry if you think i'm wrong mentioning all of it here. I only did it because the threat letter he received was mentioned in this thread, that's why i registered.
I am not in any way promoting the blog or trying to give him a good name.
I am just a regular reader and post comments from time to time.

Sorry to bother anyone

GlimDropper

12-22-2012, 09:36 AM

Help is help and advice is free. I don't support HYIP-Pulse but that doesn't mean Docstader and Jardine have a right to push them around. If a pimp blog shines a little light in some dark corners I'll thank them for doing it.

Whip

12-22-2012, 10:40 AM

The story continues, HYIP-Pulse blog received another threat from legal@profitclicking.com claiming to be from Joseph Jardine Law offices.

Chris (the owner of the Blog) still working on the article and might need your help.

Common guys - littleroundman, ProfHenryHiggins, wserra - you know a lot of dirt on this gang lets blow it wide open.

I'm finding it extremely hard to believe that was written/proof read by an actual attorney.

Whip

12-22-2012, 10:46 AM

okosh

12-22-2012, 11:48 AM

It is not my blog and i'm not affiliated to it in any way, i been following it for some time because i like a spirit of his articles,
you can see my comments there a lot.

He plays with his own money, you might be unaware but he doesn't really have huge amount of downlines.
You can rewind his articles back in time, he was always critical about programs which were well paying at the time including JBP/ProfitClicking.

Criticisms was because of a lot of brainwashed were showing up and claiming that some program is a real deal, no mater if it's paying or not.

Well, anyway sorry if you think i'm wrong mentioning all of it here. I only did it because the threat letter he received was mentioned in this thread, that's why i registered.
I am not in any way promoting the blog or trying to give him a good name.
I am just a regular reader and post comments from time to time.

Sorry to bother anyone

Not true....

Criticisms was because hyip-pulse didn't join JSS trippler/PC till late May or early June 2012 with a $100 deposit.....
Of course by then this one was all but over and I doubt he even got his money back.....
hyip-pulse played the game and LOST....So now he wants to cry about it??

Go read this post from June for proof :RpS_wink:
Short Justbeenpaid update « HYIP-Pulse.com Blog (http://blog.hyip-pulse.com/short-justbeenpaid-update/)

NikSam

12-22-2012, 04:17 PM

Not true....

Criticisms was because hyip-pulse didn't join JSS trippler/PC till late May or early June 2012 with a $100 deposit.....
Of course by then this one was all but over and I doubt he even got his money back.....
hyip-pulse played the game and LOST....So now he wants to cry about it??

Go read this post from June for proof :RpS_wink:
...

It is interesting that you picked one post which suits only your opinion and how is it possible that "pimp" lost according to your previous statements?
He got his money back plus some, let's look what was before and after the one you picked
here is May and first mention: Why I joined JustBeenPaid « HYIP-Pulse.com Blog (http://blog.hyip-pulse.com/why-i-joined-justbeenpaid/) - critical enough.
here is Jul: Is JustBeenPaid about to scam? « HYIP-Pulse.com Blog (http://blog.hyip-pulse.com/is-justbeenpaid-about-to-scam/) - JBP is blooming and paying
here is entire story if you want: You searched for justbeenpaid « Page 8 of 8 « HYIP-Pulse.com Blog (http://blog.hyip-pulse.com/page/8/?s=justbeenpaid)

And why we even judging him in this thread? who is on trial here?

I already apologized for even talking here, i fought you guys dedicated to fight scams but it seems you just fight anyone who dared to say hi.

my mistake.

NikSam

12-22-2012, 04:23 PM

I'm finding it extremely hard to believe that was written/proof read by an actual attorney.

Yes, I noticed it too.
The second part starting with ""I am at a loss for your reckless" is written by absolutely different person than part before that.
And Lawyer would not dare to say those things even via proxy.

Whip

12-22-2012, 04:43 PM

Yes, I noticed it too.
The second part starting with ""I am at a loss for your reckless" is written by absolutely different person than part before that.
And Lawyer would not dare to say those things even via proxy.

The very first sentence gave them away. Written is 'libel'. Oral is 'slander'.

Lil Ol' Radical Me

12-22-2012, 06:42 PM

The very first sentence gave them away. Written is 'libel'. Oral is 'slander'.

Wondered when some would notice that little slip of the pen. lol If their lawyer doesn't know the difference, they are in deep doo dah.

littleroundman

12-22-2012, 08:23 PM

It is interesting that you picked one post which suits only your opinion and how is it possible that "pimp" lost according to your previous statements?
He got his money back plus some, let's look what was before and after the one you picked
here is May and first mention: Why I joined JustBeenPaid « HYIP-Pulse.com Blog (http://blog.hyip-pulse.com/why-i-joined-justbeenpaid/) - critical enough.
here is Jul: Is JustBeenPaid about to scam? « HYIP-Pulse.com Blog (http://blog.hyip-pulse.com/is-justbeenpaid-about-to-scam/) - JBP is blooming and paying
here is entire story if you want: You searched for justbeenpaid « Page 8 of 8 « HYIP-Pulse.com Blog (http://blog.hyip-pulse.com/page/8/?s=justbeenpaid)

And why we even judging him in this thread? who is on trial here?

I already apologized for even talking here, i fought you guys dedicated to fight scams but it seems you just fight anyone who dared to say hi.

my mistake.

I'll tell you what, NikSam,

stick around the HYIP ponzi scene long enough, and I'm certain YOU'LL be of the same opinion as others here.

The HYIP ponzi "industry" depends for it's existence on a large range of "enablers" without whom it simply couldn't function as it does.

"Enablers" come in many guises.

It obviously wasn't the bloggers first rodeo, neither was it his last, AND, no matter how anyone rationalizes or justifies it, he came out in front AT THE EXPENSE OF SOMEONE ELSE.

Having said that, I totally agree with Glimdropper.

Nobody deserves to be bullied by the likes of ProfitClicking or their "legal representative.

Personally, I tend to think along the lines of, "if it's involved in the HYIP ponzi industry, the only safe option is to believe NOTHING is true and it's ALL fantasy until proven otherwise"

littleroundman

12-23-2012, 12:28 AM

Ever wondered what pimps and shills really think about HYIP ponzi members ???

Here's our old friend and well known HYIP ponzi apologist, "legalrep" discussing the possibility of the owners of Talkgold are being behind many of the HYIP ponzi games on the Talkgold forum:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/legal.jpg

Post #4364, ProfitClicking thread on Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5026371&postcount=4364)

Whip

12-23-2012, 11:00 AM

littleroundman

12-27-2012, 06:09 AM

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/safe-1.jpg

ProfitClicking thread, Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5029058&postcount=4387)

EagleOne

12-27-2012, 07:28 AM

Well we can add another convicted criminal to the list of PC supporters. Yes our dear friend Clarence Busby of Golden Panda/ASD fame is now soliciting the database of GP/ASD to sign up under him in this fantastic money-making opportunity. Guess the lone convicted criminal in the management team needed a support convicted criminal to round things out. You can bet if Andy was not in prison, he would be in this too.

Just like Ken Russo and Stros, Busby never met a Ponzi he didn't love. Guess he feels he las laid low long enough for the authorities not to notice his joining PC. He should think again.

legalrep

12-29-2012, 09:22 PM

Boys will be boys

littleroundman

12-29-2012, 09:25 PM

And, a rolling stone gathers no moss.

Your point being .................???

legalrep

12-29-2012, 09:32 PM

At least he's finally admitting he's a dumbass.

I don't assume guilt unless someone proves otherwise. You seem to enjoy piling on people with your opinions, but I choose to consider everyone innocent until someone proves to me a person is guilty. My law professor said he did not believe our Constitution would have any force of law 20 years from now. And that was in 1982. I believe he may have been correct. I see a blatent disregard for the rule of law in the United States today.

baylee

12-29-2012, 10:24 PM

I don't assume guilt unless someone proves otherwise. You seem to enjoy piling on people with your opinions, but I choose to consider everyone innocent until someone proves to me a person is guilty. My law professor said he did not believe our Constitution would have any force of law 20 years from now. And that was in 1982. I believe he may have been correct. I see a blatent disregard for the rule of law in the United States today.

LOL, I am sure you checked this with your legal staff before you posted this. I have seen your posts on other forums referencing your legal staff! Too funny!

PPBlog

12-29-2012, 10:40 PM

I see a blatent disregard for the rule of law in the United States today.

Me, too. Especially in the HYIP sphere. Also among the "freedom drivers" and other "sovereigns" -- and among the folks who sell memberships to "private associations" that purportedly make it possible to sell unregistered securities and practice law and medicine without a license.

PPBlog

littleroundman

12-29-2012, 10:43 PM

Poor legalrep,

he's condemning the population of the U.S.A. to a future without the First Amendment of the very constitution of which he claims to be an advocate.

innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT OF LAW legalrep, IN A COURT OF LAW.

Besides the fact what you are seeing here are OPINIONS, and there's no possibility of the subject of said OPINIONS being penalized for being "guilty" many of the posters here are not restricted by the provisions of the U.S. constitution, being from outside the U.S. anyway.

Add the fact many of said posters are, in fact, attempting to provoke fraudsters into exercising THEIR constitutional rights by following through with their empty threats and instituting court proceedings.

The 'net has proven to be a double edged sword.

As well as giving fraudsters a far bigger market in which to peddle their scams, it has also given the "ordinary" netizen a means by which to fight back.

Add in an increase in jurisdictions which have introduced antiSLAPP legislation, the recognition of the possibility of HYIP ponzi scams being used to funnel vast amounts to criminal and/or terrorist organizations and the growing public distaste at the obvious between worldwide tough financial times and the proliferation of fraud and fraudsters, and consumer advocates have never been in a better position to treat obvious fraud enablers of the "legalrep" type with the contempt they so obviously deserve.

In other words, "legalrep", in the words of that great philosopher, Vinnie Barbarino:

"Stick it up your nose with a rubber hose"

littleroundman

12-29-2012, 10:52 PM

I see a blatent disregard for the rule of law in the United States today.

It's funny,

as hard as I may try, I can't see any law which states it's OK for U.S. citizens to steal from fellow citizens while pretending to be a legitimate "business"

In fact, it is the responsibility of of a business to prove IT is operating legally before accepting one cent for it's services.

"Caveat Emptor" is a general principle, not a rule of law.

hendyphilhendy

12-31-2012, 06:16 AM

The classic 'scam to scam' scenario. Just been pitched via email this today by one of the larger local earners in Banners Broker.

littleroundman

01-02-2013, 02:22 AM

Hmmmnn,

I wonder if he's telling the truth and he can't access his money, or the ProfitClicking shills and pimps are telling the truth and everything's roses ???

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9028/grimwz.jpg

ProfitClicking thread, Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5033491&postcount=4436)

littleroundman

01-02-2013, 09:02 PM

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4174/profod.jpg

Post numbers 4442 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5034074&postcount=4442) and 4443 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5034108&postcount=4443) in the ProfitClicking thread on Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum

littleroundman

01-03-2013, 01:35 AM

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4411/grimxw.jpg

ProfitClicking thread, Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5034229&postcount=4445)

littleroundman

01-03-2013, 07:07 PM

baylee

01-03-2013, 09:27 PM

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/profitclicking.jpg

Posts # 4453 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5034828&postcount=4453) and 4454 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5034857&postcount=4454) in the ProfitClicking thread on the Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum

I find it hard to understand why anybody would feel sorry for the mods in this scam. They need to be prosecuted along with admins to fullest extent of the law!

When the authorities start to hammer the pimps and shills, watch the the scammers run and hide!

littleroundman

01-03-2013, 09:30 PM

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/dave.jpg

Posts #4455 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5034992&postcount=4455) and 4456 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5034995&postcount=4456) In the ProfitClicking thread on the Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum

littleroundman

01-04-2013, 08:48 PM

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2223/againm.jpg

Posts # 4463 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5035728&postcount=4463) and 4464 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5035832&postcount=4464) and 4465 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5035855&postcount=4465) in the ProfitClicking thread on the Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum

baylee

01-06-2013, 04:37 PM

I just saw this over at the TG forum from Ken/DrDave/Russo. You know the scam is dead when someone like him says it.

Re: JustBeenPaid - justbeenpaid.com - profitclicking.com

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laidback

01-07-2013, 10:57 AM

littleroundman

01-07-2013, 11:05 AM

Actually, you know it's a scam if Russo/DrDave is or was ever in it...!

AND,

if it's on Talkgold as well:

RUN FOR YOUR LIFE

scratchycat

01-07-2013, 03:09 PM

Oh, it is in TG and at least one person has caught on...

2611

scratchycat

01-07-2013, 03:33 PM

Profit Clicking - Profitclicking.com , (JPB-JustBeenPaid.com) 1.5-2% daily + Ads & Matrix

amosobie

post Today, 11:07 AM

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Group: Member
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Joined: 3-October 12
Member No.: 488,484

Just received an email from payza's support. They said that if I haven't received my checks in 60 days, I can report it. Then for a fee of $4 per check, they will cancel the check and resend them to me. **Sigh**

chouchou

post Today, 11:17 AM

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I cannot log into my account anymore. It is telling wrong user or password and I am sure I am using the correct one. I have tried 3 times making sure it is correct and impossible to log in?

Has anyone having the same problem please?

thanks
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mfan53

post Today, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE (chouchou @ Jan 7 2013, 12:17 PM) *

I cannot log into my account anymore. It is telling wrong user or password and I am sure I am using the correct one. I have tried 3 times making sure it is correct and impossible to log in?

Has anyone having the same problem please?

thanks

According to the PC Facebook page;

"IT is working on the log in issues at this time. We apologize if you are having log in difficulties. Thanks."

This post has been edited by mfan53: Today, 11:23 AM

honestmoney3

post Today, 11:27 AM

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Profit Clicking - Profitclicking.com (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Profit-Clicking-Profitc-t329007.html&pid=7423283&st=32220#entry7423283)

path2prosperity

01-07-2013, 03:38 PM

Oh, it is in TG and at least one person has caught on...

2611

Good for Lita for calling this one out. She was one of the best scam busters when TG allowed naysyers in their forum. She did join RS but she has kept a low profile. I look forward to hearing more from her in TG or RS.

Hope somebody will encourage her over here. Some of us miss her.

busttheblock

01-07-2013, 07:09 PM

Blondie is a big fish in this scam, like many other scams she is involved with. She is one to keep an eye on too just like russo.

baylee

01-07-2013, 07:42 PM

Blondie is a big fish in this scam, like many other scams she is involved with. She is one to keep an eye on too just like russo.

Yes, I just returned from MMG and reading her shall we say, version of the truth about PC. What a crock of Crapola. Blondie also has a close follower in kaykay, same crap, same day.

littleroundman

01-08-2013, 07:34 AM

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/pc1_zpse1459fea.jpg

ProfitClicking thread, MMG HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Profit-Clicking-Profitc-t329007.html&view=findpost&p=7423914#entry7423914)

100 days and 83 days without payment.

Yet the "monitors" still show ProfitClicking status as "paying"

Dead HYIP

laidback

01-08-2013, 05:50 PM

baylee

01-08-2013, 09:45 PM

I just returned from MMG and found a post from blondie and it is typical pimp/shill posting as this scam is swirling down the drain. Thought I would share.
More crapola!

Blondie

post Today, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE (passiveincome84 @ Jan 8 2013, 06:31 PM) *
holy cow blondie, 100 days???? I'm never going to see my money this rate. PC knows people are just trying to get their money out now, and that's why they're doing this. How can they continue to promote indefinitely sustainable, when it's clearly been proven it can't be sustainable? JBP never did payouts like this, so why change it, if you're indefinitely sustainable? I want my million dollars now!

Yeah, sadly enough I'm still waiting on that Oct 1st request.
Haven't been trying the buckets lately. Figured I'd leave that for those not in profit yet.
I'll be sure to post here when that old one is paid. peace.gif

littleroundman

01-08-2013, 09:58 PM

Ah, for the good old HYIP ponzi days, when a HYIP was moved to

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9752/closedk.jpg

after 7 or 30 days of "not paying"

HYIP ponzi newbies today don't stand a chance.

okosh

01-08-2013, 09:59 PM

Errr, I believe the word is"heap"...!

Errr, I believe the word is "heap of dead scam" :RpS_laugh:

path2prosperity

01-09-2013, 02:44 AM

The good thing is, there's very few actual "members" for the lads to dump on.

Maybe MMG has more desperados and true believers, but the number of players is definitely down.

Dennis Clairmont, a top echelon Adlandpro pimp is trying to hawk a new version called jbpnew.com

Dennis Clairmont's Adlandpro profile
Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/members/265854.aspx

Dennis Clairmont hawking newjbp in an Adlandpro thread See the man's signature files http:// then jbpnew.com?u=clairmont2101
Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2584989/100-Friends.aspx?flag=202

Dennis' jbpnew link GONE MISSING!
(http://jbpnew.com?u=clairmont2101)

Finix

01-11-2013, 02:23 PM

Stats from MMG PC thread: 32,692 posts, 1,191,282 views. The first post is from almost three years ago. Not bad for a program nowadays!

Finix

01-11-2013, 02:37 PM

Think from a different angle, people. All this crap is scams of course, but it brings traffic, discussion, new members to forums, etc. Keeps the scene alive, plus gives y'all something to talk about and do.

EagleOne

01-11-2013, 03:48 PM

Welcome back Finix. Hope all is well, and Happy New Year.

okosh

01-11-2013, 03:57 PM

Stats from MMG PC thread: 32,692 posts, 1,191,282 views. The first post is from almost three years ago. Not bad for a program nowadays!

Didn't pay for even close to 3 years....Was a bunch of restarts and just numbers on the screen for much of the 3 years..

Finix

01-11-2013, 04:38 PM

Welcome back Finix. Hope all is well, and Happy New Year.
Happy New Year to you too!

It's unbelievable what sort of crap passes for a scam nowadays. Decent con artists would be ashamed of such unprofessional work.

So how do we stop people from falling for this nonsense? They really need to stop wanting easy money. It almost never works out to be easy, and even when it does, it's easy come, easy go.

Finix

01-11-2013, 05:36 PM

A bit more about so called easy money.

To consistently win in scams requires a great deal of knowledge and skills that newbs simply don't and can't have. There are two categories of people who consistently make money in scams: experienced players and pimps.

If you are a player, it's a game of minds, you against the admin. You have to get inside the admin's head, which is a very dark and unpleasant place to be in to boot. You have to truly know and remember at all times that nothing is real, and stay cool and collected. In short, it's a lot of work, and the outcome is still unknown as the admin might turn out to be more skilled than you are.

If you are a pimp, it's not easy money either. You have to constantly find new prospects and to keep them in-line with lies and false promises.

If you are a pure gambler, every now and then you'll get lucky and get in early on a scam that will turn out to be long-lasting and profitable. However, if you keep gambling, you'll blow that money on other scams where you won't be as lucky.

path2prosperity

01-11-2013, 06:16 PM

Blondie is a big fish in this scam, like many other scams she is involved with. She is one to keep an eye on too just like russo.

And the ProfitClicker brigade in Scamlandpro. The very likely winner of their Person of the Year promotes jbpnew dot.com in his signature and another contender promotes ProfitClicking.

EagleOne

01-11-2013, 07:41 PM

Happy New Year to you too!

It's unbelievable what sort of crap passes for a scam nowadays. Decent con artists would be ashamed of such unprofessional work.

So how do we stop people from falling for this nonsense? They really need to stop wanting easy money. It almost never works out to be easy, and even when it does, it's easy come, easy go.

Are you saying you want to come join us on the "dark side," and help us in our efforts to warn people about Ponzi's? If so, welcome aboard.

Finix

01-11-2013, 08:37 PM

Are you saying you want to come join us on the "dark side," and help us in our efforts to warn people about Ponzi's? If so, welcome aboard.
I don't know about warning people as it seems to have little (if not opposite) effect, but I can tell them quite a bit about how all kinds of scams work on the inside. If it stops them from falling into the easy money trap, great, if not, they'll learn by doing like the rest of us.

The best thing to do is to offer them some insight on how to make money legitimately, but who wants to hear about working hard and saving when they walk in onto the scene and see people rolling in cash seemingly with no effort?

path2prosperity

01-12-2013, 01:36 AM

[QUOTE=Finix;40843]
The best thing to do is to offer them some insight on how to make money legitimately, but who wants to hear about working hard and saving when they walk in onto the scene and see people rolling in cash seemingly with no effort?[/QUOTE

I do.

"Matron" at my 1950's boarding school taught me more about MLMs and having a punt on the horses than taking advice from people who appeared to be rolling in cash. I have enjoyed my working life but it had its ups and downs. Working is a bit like a game of "snakes and ladders." You go up the ladder then get bitten by people like "Jake The Snake" from "Autosurf Authority."

School Matron was Turkish and loads of fun if your parents were really wealthy. I hear some of best modern scammers are based in Turkey. Start learning the lingo Finix and you may make a big name for yourself in some of these forums.

Finix

01-12-2013, 10:24 AM

Start learning the lingo Finix and you may make a big name for yourself in some of these forums.
Forums don't accomplish a thing. The ever-lasting flame wars between scam participants and scambusters give the appearance of something going on when nothing is really happening. People online don't have any reason to believe one group of strangers over another. The whole forum situation is rigged in favor of the devil.

scratchycat

01-12-2013, 10:33 AM

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Published on Aug 10, 2012

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My name is Frederick Mann. I'm the main designer of JustBeenPaid! (JBP) and I'm glad to be able to provide you with the means to become a Successful Online Moneymaker!

I've been earning a fulltime online income since 1997. Over the years, I've been very aware of how some people struggle to make money online. I've put a great deal of thought into what could be done to make it as easy as possible for people to earn online.

JustBeenPaid! -- particularly its "subprogram" JSS-Tripler -- is a great breakthrough in that it makes the "road to success" as short as possible. You don't have to sponsor people to make money. However if you do sponsor people you can earn a great deal more.

How to Make Money on JBP New 2013 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvtgb8wx83I)

Being promoted by the potential winner in Adlandpro's person of the year contest. I thought Freddie boy retired!

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2591976/It-is-time-to-vote-for-the-Person-of-the-Year-2012.aspx?flag=47

scratchycat

01-12-2013, 10:41 AM

I Love My Profit clicking Hella Money in it yea for all us Profit Clickers

Quote from Facebook person.

http://www.profitclicking.com/?r=simikathy&p=opp

Why do people go from one to another of these schemes? Do they really make any money? I have watched several over the years that do this and have never quite understood. Finix maybe you could explain.

Finix

01-12-2013, 01:39 PM

Why do people go from one to another of these schemes?
Most of them are gamblers. Like any gambling, gambling in scams is addictive.

Do they really make any money?
No. What they make in one scam, they lose in another. Only admins and pimps make any real money.

scratchycat

01-12-2013, 04:15 PM

Most of them are gamblers. Like any gambling, gambling in scams is addictive.

No. What they make in one scam, they lose in another. Only admins and pimps make any real money.

Thank you, it is what I thought and yet they keep gambling...

path2prosperity

01-12-2013, 08:27 PM

Quote from Facebook person.

http://www.profitclicking.com/?r=simikathy&p=opp

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Absolutely hilarious!

Kathy Hamilton talking about JBP/ProfitClicking in Facebook. Why does she and lick Dennis Clairmont's boots in Scamland posts? Has she reservations about Adlandpro or programs presented by Adlandpro's most probable Person of The Year award winner?

I thought that "dog" had had her day when her hubby and Marylyn Ali got into the Adlandpro gossip columns. Love, lust fun or scam stories? I can not remeber but I can remember Kathy's anti semetic stance! Careful Kathy. It is not wise to try and play scam busters if you want to be a big fish in Adlandpro. Some of us remmeber what you had to say?

path2prosperity

01-12-2013, 08:39 PM

Quote from Facebook person.

http://www.profitclicking.com/?r=simikathy&p=opp

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Absolutely hilarious! Kathy Hamilton in Facebook. Does she want better pasture for scams than Adlandpro?

I thought that "dog" had had her day when her hubby and Marylyn Ali got into the Adlandpro gossip columns. Love, lust fun or scam stories? I can not remember but I can remember Kathy's anti semetic stance! Careful Kathy. It is not wise to try and play scam busters when you have been loquacious in Adlandpro or expressed too many view about The Holocaust. Some of us remmeber what you had to say when you were a big fish in that pond.

baylee

01-12-2013, 10:24 PM

I was just on MMG forum and found this post, (What a Clown) (Best I can tell him/her is Glug, Glug, Glug, and there are no life preservers available!)

playfair

post Today, 03:40 PM
Post #32860

MMG Member
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Group: Member
Posts: 450
Joined: 21-May 07
Member No.: 107,830

ProfitClicking is still here and and they are paying.
Inspite of all the negative posts on this thread, this program is here to stay.

I know I might be opening a can of worms with this post.
But some of us need to upgrade our brains, as Frederick Mann used to say.

I keep reiterating this statement, even though I have only caught the bucket a couple of times.
PC is paying and is here for the long haul.
Look at their plans and read it meaninfully-check your email updates.

I'll swim or sink with PC!
Now, let go look for the bucket!! smile.gif

This post has been edited by playfair: Today, 03:41 PM

littleroundman

01-12-2013, 10:27 PM

To continue Mr /Ms Playfairs' analogy:

I wonder if he/she realizes how the phrase "clutching at straws" came into being.

GlimDropper

01-12-2013, 10:39 PM

Forums don't accomplish a thing. The ever-lasting flame wars between scam participants and scambusters give the appearance of something going on when nothing is really happening. People online don't have any reason to believe one group of strangers over another. The whole forum situation is rigged in favor of the devil.

This I would respectfully disagree with. We may not alter the trajectory of the outcome but we do provide "the rest of the story," there are (some) people who look before they leap and that's why we're here. I entertain few delusions (the meds help with that), we aren't "game changers" but we are players, or anti-players as the case may be. I'm less concerned with the marketing aspects of changing everyone's mind than I am with making it easier for the people looking for the other side of the sales pitch to find it.

A humble aspiration but a worthy one.

We can't save everyone, that's the stone truth but every now and again I look at the number of people who wanted to save their money by not getting ripped off and found us and when I do I smile. And when I see how many of those people hang on and try to do the same for someone else, I know that what we (collectively) are doing is worthwhile.

okosh

01-13-2013, 02:14 AM

This I would respectfully disagree with. We may not alter the trajectory of the outcome but we do provide "the rest of the story," there are (some) people who look before they leap and that's why we're here. I entertain few delusions (the meds help with that), we aren't "game changers" but we are players, or anti-players as the case may be. I'm less concerned with the marketing aspects of changing everyone's mind than I am with making it easier for the people looking for the other side of the sales pitch to find it.

A humble aspiration but a worthy one.

We can't save everyone, that's the stone truth but every now and again I look at the number of people who wanted to save their money by not getting ripped off and found us and when I do I smile. And when I see how many of those people hang on and try to do the same for someone else, I know that what we (collectively) are doing is worthwhile.

IMO we are game changers.....

What we do is put scams ON the radar.....If not for us then scams like Zeek, ASD, Legisi, CEP, PIPS even all the way back to 12dp would come and go without any of the admins or winners doing a days jail or have to pay back a dime via clawbacks....

We are "part of the game".....The part that the players, reff whores and shills hate....

True that we will never ever save everyone.....But we do save a few from being victims.....And a few less victims is a good thing IMO....
Just imagine how many more victims scams like Zeek, ASD and the others would have if not for us....

I think we are a huge game changer

littleroundman

01-13-2013, 02:31 AM

I think we are a huge game changer

And, as hobbies go, it sure beats catching butterflies.

Finix

01-13-2013, 07:47 AM

We are "part of the game".....The part that the players, reff whores and shills hate....
The part that newbie players, newbie pimps and newbie shills hate. They hate it because they are not aware of the whole picture. The experienced ones aren't bothered by scambusters as they are aware of all parts of the game and can use even the negative to the advantage.

path2prosperity

01-13-2013, 08:07 AM

mharriman

01-14-2013, 12:25 AM

And, as hobbies go, it sure beats catching butterflies.

As said earlier, these forums are supported by people who have some sort of of agenda. What makes one business better than the other. You can find something wrong with any company. I'm making money on multiple sites and ProfitClicking is one of them. Stop wasting time bad mouthing and start making money getting with the program. There are many more opportunities coming in 2013.

littleroundman

01-14-2013, 06:38 AM

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/jss.jpg

Just Been Paid thread, MMG HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Profit-Clicking-Profitc-t329007.html&view=findpost&p=7434510#entry7434510)

littleroundman

01-14-2013, 06:41 AM

As said earlier, these forums are supported by people who have some sort of of agenda. What makes one business better than the other. You can find something wrong with any company. I'm making money on multiple sites and ProfitClicking is one of them. Stop wasting time bad mouthing and start making money getting with the program. There are many more opportunities coming in 2013.

So, tell us, mharriman,

I forget, was that the Wall Street Journal or CNN Finance you report for ???

Finix

01-14-2013, 07:26 AM

What makes one business better than the other.
What makes one scam better than the other is the fact of making payments on schedule.

DrunkenTiger

01-14-2013, 08:43 AM

IMO we are game changers.....

What we do is put scams ON the radar.....If not for us then scams like Zeek, ASD, Legisi, CEP, PIPS even all the way back to 12dp would come and go without any of the admins or winners doing a days jail or have to pay back a dime via clawbacks....

We are "part of the game".....The part that the players, reff whores and shills hate....

True that we will never ever save everyone.....But we do save a few from being victims.....And a few less victims is a good thing IMO....
Just imagine how many more victims scams like Zeek, ASD and the others would have if not for us....

I think we are a huge game changer

This I would respectfully disagree with. We may not alter the trajectory of the outcome but we do provide "the rest of the story," there are (some) people who look before they leap and that's why we're here. I entertain few delusions (the meds help with that), we aren't "game changers" but we are players, or anti-players as the case may be. I'm less concerned with the marketing aspects of changing everyone's mind than I am with making it easier for the people looking for the other side of the sales pitch to find it.

A humble aspiration but a worthy one.

We can't save everyone, that's the stone truth but every now and again I look at the number of people who wanted to save their money by not getting ripped off and found us and when I do I smile. And when I see how many of those people hang on and try to do the same for someone else, I know that what we (collectively) are doing is worthwhile.

Because of this forum it saved me time, headaches and hundreds of dollars not putting it in PC and others. Helped me learn of these HYIP's and what they're really about. Now I share what I learn with other people.

scratchycat

01-14-2013, 09:36 AM

As said earlier, these forums are supported by people who have some sort of of agenda. What makes one business better than the other. You can find something wrong with any company. I'm making money on multiple sites and ProfitClicking is one of them. Stop wasting time bad mouthing and start making money getting with the program. There are many more opportunities coming in 2013.

And you are one of the reasons we will continue to expose these scams.

DrunkenTiger

01-14-2013, 11:00 AM

As said earlier, these forums are supported by people who have some sort of of agenda. What makes one business better than the other. You can find something wrong with any company. I'm making money on multiple sites and ProfitClicking is one of them. Stop wasting time bad mouthing and start making money getting with the program. There are many more opportunities coming in 2013.

What is the average you make in day with PC and what are these opportunities for 2013?

Whip

01-14-2013, 01:02 PM

As said earlier, these forums are supported by people who have some sort of of agenda. What makes one business better than the other. You can find something wrong with any company. I'm making money on multiple sites and ProfitClicking is one of them. Stop wasting time bad mouthing and start making money getting with the program. There are many more opportunities coming in 2013.

You are absolutely correct about all the scamming forums you participate on. They stand to lose money if you don't try to suck others into your scams.

busttheblock

01-14-2013, 02:59 PM

Word has it that Fred Mann might be the person behind the latest scam called Onwardads!

justbeenpaidnew.com at Website Informer. JBP New.Com - Just Been Paid New Attractive 2.5% Daily Plans. (http://website.informer.com/justbeenpaidnew.com#tab_ip_whois)

Published on Aug 10, 2012

Signup HERE : Profit Clicking :: HOME (http://bit.ly/RurWrF) and Enjoy
My name is Frederick Mann. I'm the main designer of JustBeenPaid! (JBP) and I'm glad to be able to provide you with the means to become a Successful Online Moneymaker!

I've been earning a fulltime online income since 1997. Over the years, I've been very aware of how some people struggle to make money online. I've put a great deal of thought into what could be done to make it as easy as possible for people to earn online.

JustBeenPaid! -- particularly its "subprogram" JSS-Tripler -- is a great breakthrough in that it makes the "road to success" as short as possible. You don't have to sponsor people to make money. However if you do sponsor people you can earn a great deal more.

How to Make Money on JBP New 2013 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvtgb8wx83I)

Being promoted by the potential winner in Adlandpro's person of the year contest. I thought Freddie boy retired!

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2591976/It-is-time-to-vote-for-the-Person-of-the-Year-2012.aspx?flag=47

littleroundman

01-14-2013, 07:36 PM

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/prof.jpg

ProfitClicking thread, Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5046306&postcount=4561)

EagleOne

01-14-2013, 08:18 PM

What is the average you make in day with PC and what are these opportunities for 2013?

My guess is he is pimping Profitable Sunrise, NewGNI, JPBNew, bidifi, GlobalOnline, to name just a few more Ponzi's. It's all he knows. His due diligence is "It's Paying, or I got Paid" mantra of all Ponzi pimps.

I just love it when Ponzi pimps come on this blog to pimp their Ponzi de Jour. Notice how he left out all the facts as to why PC is not a Ponzi. :RpS_lol: :RpS_lol: :RpS_lol:

littleroundman

01-14-2013, 08:36 PM

There are many more opportunities coming in 2013.

A guy he's never seen before walks up to mharriman.

The guy says: "Give me some money via an non refunding offshore payment processor and I promise to give it back to you with 1% per day interest some time in the future"

mharriman says: "Hey, that sounds like an opportunity, I think I'll give you my money"

Yep, I can guarantee you 2013 will be FULL of "opportunities" like that.

NikSam

01-14-2013, 09:13 PM

Word has it that Fred Mann might be the person behind the latest scam called Onwardads!

Is it some attempt to promote this new scam here ?
What made you think it is by fictional Fred Mann ?

It runs on the Gotenks script, an HYIP script with under $1k price tag, huge downgrade for genius Fred Mann :)

EagleOne

01-14-2013, 09:25 PM

Is it some attempt to promote this new scam here ?
What made you think it is by fictional Fred Mann ?

It runs on the Gotenks script, an HYIP script with under $1k price tag, huge downgrade for genius Fred Mann :)

You think that JBP was more? Fred would do it for a $10 script if the thought he could steal even more money.

NikSam

01-14-2013, 09:34 PM

You think that JBP was more? Fred would do it for a $10 script if the thought he could steal even more money.

JBP was a bit original with in-house programming , etc to make it stand out from the rest cheap ass HYIPs, so expenses were way higher.
Now "Fred Mann" would trade down to just shrink-wrapped HYIP script , where is his engineering vision to change the world ?
whats next , a $145 goldcoders script. Can not be the group which calls itself Fred Mann.

okosh

01-15-2013, 01:54 AM

What is the average you make in day with PC and what are these opportunities for 2013?

He does not make a cent from PC.....PC has not paid in months.....All he gets is money in his PC account which he can't withdraw....
It's what's known as "Just numbers on the screen"......

mharriman

01-15-2013, 02:16 PM

My average is moderate compared to the amount that I have with ProfitClicking. It's enough were I have some money stashed away like a savings account. You can make as big as you like. They pay you $10 to start, which is nice because you can take your time to learn the system. Once I felt comfortable with the two different ways of the advertising revenue, I began to see my online business grow on both systems. ProfitClicking is not a get rich quick like most online businesses lead you to believe. PC is a revenue share program that sells Advertising credits through ad packs, traffic pack, products, and training. They are soon releasing more products for this year that will give you even more opportunities to grow your income.

littleroundman

01-15-2013, 05:51 PM

It's enough were I have some money stashed away like a savings account.

Oh dear,

mharriman is about to get a very expensive real world lesson in how to play HYIP ponzis.

It's called "numbers on a screen"

You haven't "GOT" anything, mharriman.

What shows as your "stash" doesn't exist.

Until it's in your pocket, you have NOTHING.

Finix

01-15-2013, 06:52 PM

PC is a revenue share program
Not a revenue share program, just share program. Share your money with the admins and other members who got lucky to be paid when PC was still making payments on schedule.

baylee

01-15-2013, 08:38 PM

okosh

01-16-2013, 12:03 AM

I am still trying to decide if you are a shill/pimp/ or true believer.

I'm going with "moron".....He knows he can't withdraw a dime and that his account is worthless....

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01-16-2013, 10:33 AM

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DrunkenTiger

01-16-2013, 12:39 PM

He does not make a cent from PC.....PC has not paid in months.....All he gets is money in his PC account which he can't withdraw....
It's what's known as "Just numbers on the screen"......

Yes it's just numbers on the screen. One of my uncles got into PC last Nov and has been waiting for a deposit for a month now. He made a small $22 request. He wanted to see if what I've been saying is really the case of it not being a money maker like he thought it was.

littleroundman

01-16-2013, 07:27 PM

EagleOne

01-17-2013, 02:49 AM

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9992/davez.gif

When the 'nets biggest HYIP ponzi pimp isn't getting paid, you just KNOW this one is dead.

Damn, where's MoneyMakingBrain when you need him ??

I'm sure he could explain how we've all got it wrong and Freddie wouldn't let his members down.

I already know the answer. First he will claim that JBP was not a Ponzi when Fred owned it. Fred sold JBP to PC, and therefore it is PC that is the Ponzi and Fred has nothing to do with it. Sadly I learned mmb speak a long time ago.

Of course Fred is still involved, JBP was a Ponzi and PC is just a continuation of that Ponzi.

littleroundman

01-18-2013, 01:11 AM

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/time-1.jpg

14 hours and no "I got paid" posts on the Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum ????

D--E--A--D UNsustainable HYIP.

EagleOne

01-22-2013, 03:18 AM

Is there a full moon out tonight I don't know about? I've got a new Groupie. First I had Myriad Force go off at MMG in the Profitable Sunrise thread by posting, then answering his post and then answering his post again. Now I have Just4Fun going nuts in the PC thread at MMG. I responded to an earlier post of his and this was his reply (underlined emphasis mine):

QUOTE (Lynndel @ Jan 21 2013, 06:47 PM)

You totally do not understand what it is that Eagle does. We are not law enforcement. We just provide information to our assigned law enforcement agents. It is up to them to take action.

If I were you, I would be filing with IC3. The more who do, the potential of them acting quicker in taking this down. It is called number of victims and dollars involved. It takes a lot of people filing a complaint to be heard. Investigations take time. The feds may be still in the early stage of an investigation, in the middle, near the end, or not investigating at all yet. They don't tell where they are in an investigation, or for that matter even if one is being conducted.

But if no-one files a complaint, the odds of any action taken is slim to none. If there is suspicion of money laundering or wire fraud, it is a whole different set of circumstances and ballgame.

By the way, no offence taken by what you have said before. I do understand where you are coming from so never take things personally.

I need you to take action right now. Not when all the money are gone. You don't want to do it quietly, then you are the problem here. Do you go to a robbery in progress with full siren on, or do you use surprise tactics? You want to help people but you are causing more damages with your so called good intention. Tell them to jump in right now, or quit your blabbing. The longer you keep this up, the less money will be left. If I have the power I would shut all of these down right now, but since I cannot, then like the saying goes, "If you cannot beat them, join them."

If someone hold a knife to your neck and I am the cop, and I keep yelling for the guy to go away before I get there or he will be locked up, would you want that? Of course not. I know you would want me to sneak on him and make a surprise attack and finish him in a split of a second, right? Then why are you making noise if you claim you are here to save people?

We are going broker here at home and you want to save the world with our tax money. How many more times do you want the government to raise the debt ceiling? The reason American invest oversea is because there are too many crooks at home to do business with, and I am not talking about street robberies, or used car salespeople.

I am just debating with you, but really, I know exactly what you are doing, and it is not about saving people from getting robbed. I am biting my teeth on this. I know you don't really care about my safety or my well being. It is about an ego thing. And this is where I stop. Good luck on your endeavor, whatever it may be. I did invest quite a bit with Bampaid, but I know you don't care to investigate that. You would probably say that it is my own damn fault.

America was built on the fact that we didn't want business from oversea, but now America is the New British, the greedier we are the faster we will fall. We need to be in tuned with the world, Global Economy is the key. I know you don't want to hear that, I am sorry. I've already said too much. I will keep my mouth shut for now.

BTW, IC3 is no good for me now because all of my money has already been gone a long time ago. Where were you two years ago?

Now he is following me to every thread at MMG and posting such nonsense. I guess he thinks I care and he is somehow hurting me. These people are 3-pancakes short of a short stack.

littleroundman

01-22-2013, 03:31 AM

Now he is following me to every thread at MMG and posting such nonsense. I guess he thinks I care and he is somehow hurting me. These people are 3-pancakes short of a short stack.

Gee,

the only thing he left out was blaming you for his ingrown toenail.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

And, somehow it's your fault he keeps playing HYIP ponzis and keeps losing ??

I think Einstein had HYIP ponzi players in mind when he gave that quote.

Finix

01-22-2013, 08:12 AM

Now he is following me to every thread at MMG and posting such nonsense.
He's just pissed about his money and needs someone other than himself to blame. New player syndrome, he'll get over it.

scratchycat

01-22-2013, 10:23 AM

Finix, that seems to be the way of 'players' always putting the blame elsewhere.

Finix

01-22-2013, 10:53 AM

Only the ones you see on forums. The smart ones don't make their issues public.

PPBlog

01-22-2013, 10:59 AM

There are magical constructions and there are extreme constructions. Just4Fun now is in the extreme category.

Magical construction = "I got paid, so it's real."

Extreme construction = "The critics are to blame, and I know your name, address, phone number and the name of your wife and the family dog."

The ones who believe they are clever try to introduce elements of ambiguity when they're issuing threats. The threats are veiled or may include a smilie at the end. They're at least as dangerous as the people who cannot control their emotions and begin to publish their extreme constructions.

Think about how upside down the HYIP world already is even before the elements of extremism surface: "Christians" cheering for felons and money-launderers, for instance. The constant repackaging of warmed-over schemes as something shiny, new and nice. The antigovernment, antiagency vitriol. The constant infusion of politics, including extremist politics, into business discussions. The demonization of receivers and trustees.

The fact that it is loosely organized just makes the whole thing more dangerous. It is racketeering and extremism merging to form one package. And because no one really knows where the money is going, it is dangerous beyond measure.

Vincent McCrudden was sentenced to 28 months in federal prison for threatening to kill 47 regulators; he emailed some of the threats from Singapore. He went extremist -- and the Feds caught him.

"The nature of the crime, it’s just horrendous," the judge said, according to Bloomberg:

Ex-Trader McCrudden Gets 28 Months in Prison for Threats - Bloomberg (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-06/ex-trader-mccrudden-gets-28-months-in-prison-for-threats-2-.html)

The McCrudden case was disturbing, perhaps particularly because he was from the brick-and-mortar world. The HYIP universe is more of a powder keg because it is far, far murkier. Profitable Sunrise is just an electronic version of the factoring and hard-money lending schemes in the brick-and-mortar world. Banners Broker, meanwhile, appears to have taken the JSSTripler/JustBeenPaid business model and tweaked it into a "blind network" advertising scam. (When JSS/JBP was in its heyday, members were buying into an "advertising" service that literally did not exist. Frederick Mann later speculated that the "program" servers could be targeted in a "cruise-missile" attack by the U.S. government.)

ClubAsteria was an investment scam operated by HYIPers and cash-gifters. It was married to a purported charity that somehow purportedly enjoyed IRS recognition from Hong Kong. AdViewGlobal also tried to tie itself to a charity -- one purportedly interested in saving the rainforest. Just about all of the recent Phil Piccolo scams have tried to tie themselves to government entities such as the AMBER Alert program or purported efforts to feed starving children.

What EagleOne's stalkers are trying to do is to minimize Eagle's efforts and/or extort Eagle in other ways. Again, it is an effort to create confusion with an element of intimidation thrown in. Some of the recent efforts by the capo lieutenants are of the drip . . . drip . . . drip variety. They are going to release allegedly damaging information on their schedule, a classic form of extortion.

What it shows is planning, which almost certainly makes it a conspiracy. One of these days, the HYIP universe is going to have its own Vincent McCrudden, an individual who tried to advance a purported cause via both direct and veiled threats.

That will be revealing enough. But the greatest danger is that some of the capo lieutenants are inspiring others to become capo lieutenants. That introduces the specter of a flash mob or a lone wolf. If someone gets hurt or maimed or worse, the tracks are going to lead straight to the Ponzi boards and/or people who now are invading sites such as RealScam.com in an effort to chill.

The only safe thing to assume is that these people are capable of anything.

PPBlog

Finix

01-22-2013, 11:07 AM

What EagleOne's stalkers are trying to do is to minimize Eagle's efforts and or extort Eagle in other ways.
The pissed off players are not really stalkers, they are just venting their own frustrations. Once they calm down, they go away.

Curiously, the most persistent of his stalkers is not even from HYIP world at all. The same one you have as a stalker, UncleFesta with his videos.

littleroundman

01-23-2013, 09:58 AM

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/clicking.jpg

mharriman

01-23-2013, 03:34 PM

I just read that ProfitClicking has reset the Withdrawal Queue which is gong to free up the system. New withdrawal requests will process up to $100/ day per Payment Processor.

Finix

01-23-2013, 03:51 PM

Dude, you aren't going to make it in HYIP world if you are going to believe everything the admins tell you. All the admins are losers and liars, without exception. It's very simple, really. Getting paid - good, not getting paid - bad.

Finix

01-23-2013, 04:44 PM

It's enough were I have some money stashed away like a savings account.
Oh, you are the one who uses HYIPs as savings accounts. You got a lot to learn, brother. If the HYIP doesn't scam you, the payment processor might. If the payment processor doesn't scam you, the exchanger might. It's not money until it's in your hands.

littleroundman

01-23-2013, 08:35 PM

baylee

01-23-2013, 08:54 PM

Oh, dear,

now ProfitClicking victim err....members have even had their withdrawal requests taken away from them.

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7956/reset.gif

ProfitClicking thread, MMG HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Profit-Clicking-Profitc-t329007.html&view=findpost&p=7453171#entry7453171)

And yet, the ProfitClicking pimps and shills are STILL saying this is a good thing and ProfitClicking is growing.

The newbies are learning a very expensive lesson about the pimps/shills/ and thieves. I truly hope some of the newbies will sue their up-line but for the most part their up-line is family and close friends. I am sure some will lose life long friends and relatives will estranged.

Finix

01-23-2013, 09:04 PM

"Profit Explosion" 3% per day - Take
advantage of finding out just how easily
you can be earning hundreds if not
thousands of dollars. Don't let this
opportunity pass you by. Remember! You
will earn 3% per day until maturity on ALL
Ad Packs purchased with new funding
between now and February 14th.
The greedy bastards want to pick up a bit more cash on their way out. It's possible in the online world, but in real life it would really hard to keep a straight face with this BS.

littleroundman

01-23-2013, 09:05 PM

I am sure some will lose life long friends and relatives will estranged.

Without a doubt.

We will never get to hear about it, though.

Which is fortunate for us, but, not so fortunate for the victims of the next HYIP ponzi the shills and pimps decide to promote.

They won't realize the losses created by these things aren't confined to just money.

PPBlog

01-23-2013, 09:35 PM

From LRM's screen shot: "Remember! You will earn 3% per day until maturity on ALL Ad Packs purchased with new funding between now and February 14th."

That's a new wrinkle: a pre-Valentines Day massacre. Maybe they got the idea from Profitable Sunrise, which appears to be running a pre-Easter massacre.

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Finix

01-23-2013, 10:11 PM

The newbies are learning a very expensive lesson about the pimps/shills/ and thieves.
You don't know who has what in the cards. Not all newbies share the same fate. The lesson could be expensive or it could be cheap. Even free in this case as free accounts were available.

Fat City, LA

01-25-2013, 12:42 AM

Of course this is scam, but could have lots of time left. They pay out next to nothing.

Might get shut down, under current bucket withdraw system, you can argue they are running defacto lottery.

Going to be many, many long faces after massive profitshift (how they put off paying) coming after the Feb 14th 3% cut off date.

Finix

01-25-2013, 06:54 AM

Of course this is scam, but could have lots of time left.
It could last a long time if they just leave the site up and ignore the members, but what's the point in dragging it out past the optimal profit point?

Fat City, LA

01-26-2013, 06:07 PM

The latest:
PC cancelled the "Q" and put back in wallet.
Many withdraw requests going back to Oct are null.
Rather than return full amount, it was returned minus fees. For example $250 Payza was returned as $230.

littleroundman

01-26-2013, 08:10 PM

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/offshore12.jpg

Posts #4632 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5063026&postcount=4632) and #4633 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5063045&postcount=4633[/url) and #4634 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5063488&postcount=4634) in the ProfitClicking thread on the Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum

littleroundman

01-26-2013, 08:39 PM

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/marianne.jpg

post #34507 in the ProfitClicking thread on the MMG HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Profit-Clicking-Profitc-t329007.html&view=findpost&p=7459410#entry7459410)

littleroundman

01-28-2013, 03:05 AM

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/pcpacket.jpg

ProfitClicking thread, MMG HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Profit-Clicking-Profitc-t329007.html&view=findpost&p=7461581#entry7461581)

scratchycat

01-28-2013, 10:05 AM

Fat City, LA

01-29-2013, 02:07 PM

From latest PC Email (I got it 3 times)
-------------------
Major Breakthrough Planned

Over the coming few days, we're
going to putting an enormous amount
of effort into help members get their
accounts funded in Profit Clicking!

That's Really Great News!

Because the number one problem members
have is to take the next step, and
buy more advertising with their own
money - yes, it's true!
--------------

Its at point of high comedy.

baylee

01-30-2013, 09:21 PM

I have an awful time with screen shots so this is the best I can do but this guy/gal (MoreMoola) has more cold blood in his/her body than the law allows in my opinion.
(I want mine, screw everybody else fits him/her to a tee)

baylee

post Today, 09:16 0)
Post #34985

MMG Member
**********

Group: Member
Posts: 1,676
Joined: 21-May 09
Member No.: 171,424

Warn: (20%) X----

QUOTE (MoreMoola @ Jan 30 2013, 06:45 PM) *
I am hopeful that the new gift cards will be something we can sell to prospective investors for like 80% of face value to get some of our money out. Probably they will not make this possible.

If I was a moderator, I would quit. It must be hard on them to remain positive with all the facts available.

Why would anyone with conscience try to bring in new members knowing all the while they are just throwing money away??? That's really cold blooded.

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PPBlog

01-30-2013, 09:44 PM

Baylee, quoting MoreMoola: "I am hopeful that the new gift cards will be something we can sell to prospective investors for like 80% of face value to get some of our money out. Probably they will not make this possible."

This reminds me of the EMG/Finanzas Forex case in which some participants allegedly were told that, in order to leave the "program" whole, they had to recruit more investors, have the investors pay the participants directly -- and then the participants had to steal the investor's money to make themselves whole.

In short, they had to steal their way out of the "program."

It was one of the most morbid schemes ever, with participants also allegedly being told that, if they contributed to the "cause" of freeing kidnapping victims in Colombia, the "opportunity" would match the contribution.

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NikSam

01-31-2013, 01:44 AM

.... sell to prospective investors for like 80% of face value to get some of our money out. ....

She should sell them to her family members, I am sure they will appreciate being scammed.

kelmo

01-31-2013, 09:52 AM

Fat City, LA

02-01-2013, 05:04 PM

The latest:
-Try to withdraw you get
"error communicating with server, please try again later"

-Try again you get:
"You are loading this page too often. Try again later"

I'm sure some on here remember Doc from Elite-when I saw he was in change/associated w/PC. (barely out of jail)
I knew it was bad, bad news. Every day it gets worse.

EagleOne

02-01-2013, 06:22 PM

I saw this thread of 19 pages containing one man hyping up the members to join the ponzi and then read the last post by xopilax.
Want to start with $10 Free Money to get Big Passive Income? JUST GET IN EARLY! - Page 19 - TBN - The Botting Network (http://thebotnet.com/make-money/118252-want-to-start-with-10-free-19.html)
It started me digging. and I found this forum. This is my first post.
I am posting to let you know that you do good in the world.
I for one have been turned by your words and not by anyones action or lack of action.
Thank You.

Welcome to RS and glad you found us. We are pleased to know that we did make a difference to you and for you kind words. It is truly appreciated. Don't be a stranger as there are plenty of topics on RS that I am sure will be of interest to you, and we welcome your input.

GlimDropper

02-01-2013, 07:33 PM

I know I have a strange sense of humor but JBP/PC reminds me of the following article:

Report: Most Small Businesses Fail In First 6 Hours Of Being On Fire (http://www.theonion.com/articles/report-most-small-businesses-fail-in-first-6-hours,30919/)

News in Brief (http://www.theonion.com/features/news-in-brief/) • News (http://www.theonion.com/channels/news/) • business (http://www.theonion.com/channels/business/) • ISSUE 49•03 (http://www.theonion.com/issue/4903/) • Jan 16, 2013
http://o.onionstatic.com/images/19/19240/original/700.jpg?5330

WASHINGTON (http://www.theonion.com/topics/washington-dc)—A new report from the U.S. Small Business Administration reveals that being consumed by flames poses an even greater risk to small companies than originally thought, typically causing ruinous insolvency within the first six hours of conflagration. “The data we’ve gathered reveals a consistent pattern of business failure shortly after the start of a fire, which can lead both to inventory problems and a difficulty attracting customers, who, quite frankly, do not wish to step into a retail location that is currently ablaze,” said SBA administrator Karen Mills, whose staff inspected dozens of flaming businesses in preparing the report. “For example, a small family-run electronics store in a downtown location with thick, choking smoke raging through its aisles is going to be hard-pressed to compete with the big box stores that have highly competitive prices and aren’t on fire.” The report noted that fires have less of an effect on Internet retailers, whose customers continue to shop online even as their houses burn down around them.

bolding mine.

laidback

02-01-2013, 08:41 PM

I know I have a strange sense of humor but JBP/PC reminds me of the following article:

bolding mine.Errr, bizarre was the word I was thinking of....!

okosh

02-01-2013, 11:04 PM

Errr, bizarre was the word I was thinking of....!

You need to watch more Seinfeld and then you'll get it because his post was funny :RpS_laugh:

Fat City, LA

02-03-2013, 03:04 AM

Stopped by the PC 24/7 conf room.

Heard the mod say- Of course your not able to withdraw, you are not accepting lifes challenges. Do you think the guy who invented the high jump did this?........

littleroundman

02-03-2013, 08:01 PM

Are we starting to see a little frustration in ProfitClicking members ???

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/949/jrnh.jpg

ProfitClicking thread, Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5075213&postcount=4680)

EagleOne

02-03-2013, 08:53 PM

At MMG this has been going on for at least 20 pages or more. Then we have the shills come in who use the "don't report them to the government because everyone will lose everything and the "evil" government will keep it all for themselves" mantra. But when people start offering their PC cards at a deep discount, none of the "believers" are interested in buying. Just too funny to watch.

EagleOne

02-05-2013, 03:43 AM

littleroundman

02-05-2013, 03:51 AM

But the good news is they are putting in new servers to speed things up

Which means the members can find out they are not getting paid even faster than before.

Fat City, LA

02-05-2013, 04:28 AM

Well now we have the fire sale of PC account balances being offered at MMG. So far a few takers, but more people willing to sell than buyers wanting to take advantage of the deep discounts on the account balances. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of what the "believer's" truly think about PC.

Also no payments for at least 4 days now. Seems their 3% offer extended to new money up to Feb 14 is not working as well as they had hoped. But the good news is they are putting in new servers to speed things up. Hmm, that's what they said when JBP sold to PC and we all know how that worked for everyone. Also adding a new payment processor, but that is also just more smoke and mirrors. Adding another one will not free up any money.

I personally think PC wants all the old-timers (those who were in JBP) to get discouraged and walk away. Thus eliminating a large liability so they can pay the newbies to get them to promote PC as paying. But if the 3% offer is not getting enough new people, this will all crash very soon.

I see the misery going for much longer.
They are at the point of zero payout other than % hyip monitors and the mods and their cronies.
Their largest expense appears to be: ministers of misinformation (microjobs for fake tweets, Fb postings, forum bashing of the rational etc) and threatening legal actions.

I just keep taking my screenshots and getting contact info off FB pages. All the USA based crooks, mods, shills promoting PC knowing it doesnt pay, get to have long talk w/IRS soon.

The true brutal part-people in developing world have life changing amounts of $ in PC they will never see.

As far as the "buyers" of PC gift cards- how many "buyers" will still be on MMG in a few days.
Just setting the sellers up for a much more complicated scam. I call it the golden ticket.

Ive been banned from MMG dozens of times, just not my duty to warn them anymore.

littleroundman

02-05-2013, 06:10 AM

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/evidence_zps13f40c2f.jpg

ProfitClicking thread, Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5076825&postcount=4684)

Fat City, LA

02-06-2013, 04:21 AM

They locked -er-down @ MMG Forum.

Looks like PC has no backers (non-insider pay, non micro worker) left.

littleroundman

02-06-2013, 06:19 AM

They locked -er-down @ MMG Forum.

It's called "rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic"

littleroundman

02-09-2013, 01:47 AM

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/profitlogo_zps383781ac.jpg

Yep,

that would encourage me to send my money to someone I'd never heard of before.........NOT !!!

littleroundman

02-10-2013, 01:34 AM

This message has been showing on the Front page of the ProfitClicking.com (http://profitclicking.com/) website for weeks now.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7379/domain.jpg

Surely a multi million dollar company could afford to at least pay a work experience kid a few dollars to put it right.

If history is anything to go by, I'd say the thieves behind ProfitClicking have already left the building and ProfitClicking is now being run by an autopilot script.

littleroundman

02-10-2013, 06:25 PM

NikSam

02-10-2013, 08:06 PM

...
When the King of HYIP ponzi pimps says it's dead, it's D--E--A--D

He said the same months ago, still some happy Profitclicker who managed to withdraw using "bucket" spreads his payment report and it multiplies across the forums,
creates illusion that it pays and all naysayers just jealous and don't want a little man to benefit on it.

Also funny to see how some profitclickers advising boycotting PC and stop clicking their ads till payments resume to normal,
they do belive that those ads matter for PC :)

Stevexxx

02-13-2013, 11:49 AM

New arrival here, too late to save me though, I'm sunk..(though not for much)

If only I had have known sooner I could have broke even before JBP metamorphosized into the farce they call profit clicking... I almost believed it could work, believed all that bull about the JBP servers on order to resolve the issues, one a week I think they were going to add. Now its super- servers they are waiting for to resolve all the pay issues...

Still waiting for the so-called panels from 6 months ago, though they seem to be archiving my older accounts "unretrievable" I'm told... Hang on, they are my active accounts ??????? I spend many happy hours now seeing if I can access the bucket withdraw, my sister actually found it open once and got $250 out, alas never to be repeated.. Oh yeah, they now actually have live withdraw support.. why is it always offline though??

Its like a comedy listening to doc's calls or the conference room excuses.... Why didn't I see this months ago... Have to admit its been fun dreaming about making loads of Harry Enfields... Feeling very sorry now for those being duped into still putting in money, scammed with the gift cards by unscrupulous up lines desperate to get cash back.....

So on to the next venture, Profitablesunrise / InterReef LTD perhaps? UK registered supplying insured bridging loans in the States, good reviews got to be legit !!!! Strange how Companys House has no record of them !!!! Hmmm think I will stick to ITV roulette :/

okosh

02-13-2013, 04:47 PM

Fat City, LA

02-16-2013, 02:21 AM

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/drd_zps6db33d0a.jpg

ProfitClicking thread, Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5082618&postcount=4708)

Well, there you have it.

When the King of HYIP ponzi pimps says it's dead, it's D--E--A--D

From MMG. PC must of placed all its microjobs all at once by mistake. 1 thread is over run w/Indonesians Micro Labor.
Some cut and paste same exact things.
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Profit-Clicking-Profitc-t329007.html&st=36075&p=7498138#entry7498138
______________________
This is from official PC facebook page:

MICRO JOBS from Indonesia-some post exact same things.

Indonesia Love PC ❤-what are the odds 100's of unrelated PC posters just put this is one thread?

SAME EXACT POST?....word for word...
For example (from very bottom of this post.)

Mbah Tatong PC is an incredible online business, yes, I believe it. I believe the PC was able to change my life and my family. Keep going forward and there developed. We (members of Indonesia) will always supportive and optimistic about you. Because we believe the PC is capable of giving and changing our lives become more, more, and better.Indonesia Love PC ❤
23 minutes ago · Edited

Ahmad Scremo Freshtilldeath PC is an incredible online business, yes, I believe it. I believe the PC was able to change my life and my family. Keep going forward and there developed. We (members of Indonesia) will always supportive and optimistic about you. Because we believe the PC is capable of giving and changing our lives become more, more, and better.Indonesia Love PC ❤

Its the same !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is a thread w/250 plus..

A sample

==============
3 hours ago

Ahmad Tajul Kurnaen I like pc is the best .......Indonesia Love PC
3 hours ago · 1

Jefi Kurniawan The best results of our income is from profitclicking, go, go pc,,, Indonesia Love PC ❤
3 hours ago · 1

Veni H Herawati I LOVE PC ,PC IS THE BEST BUSINESS Indonesia LOVE PC ❤
3 hours ago · 1

Rizal M Nasir i lovve profitclicking PC is the best business
3 hours ago via mobile · 1

Roy Ciputra III I LOVE PC AND PROGRAM PC, PC always in my heart .... Indonesia Love PC ❤
3 hours ago · 1

Dauz Black Mau sukses ?? ikutan PC aja,,,
Profit Clicking is The Best Online Bussines
Indonesia Love PC ❤
2 hours ago · 1

Antoxs Ghaisani congratulation for the winner..... PC is the best and the better,,,, indonesia love PC!.....
2 hours ago · Edited · 1

Satria Baja Egood don't be sad with PC........ indonesia love PC
2 hours ago · 1

Pelangi Indah I liked the program profitclicking, hopefully the future is always more fascinating
Indonesia Love PC ❤
2 hours ago · 1

Cahyadi Doang Our PC Our Experince Our Financial Freedom Our Imagine and Wonderful Our Indonesia Love PC ❤
2 hours ago · 1

Fatur Sen Diri that success is a choice ... your thinking also dictates, if you keep negative thoughts then the result will never be up .. but if you are thinking positive ... then it will be up .... remember what you think is what will happen in your life ... That's a word that you say your prayers ... so Always say positive hal2 can motivate your spirit, which can burn your beliefs and always was saying: I SURE SUCCESS IN Profitclicking, because your faith DETERMINANTS LIFE .......... do not forget to pray and sow to those in need .. AND SEE RESULTS .. SUCCESS ALWAYS ^ _^ GO SOlution 98%
2 hours ago · 1

Aris Hidayat Good...I'm very like PC, love PC, need PC, we are member PC always together forever!?Indonesia LOVE PC ❤
2 hours ago · 2

Agung Zagrex Indonesia Love PC ❤
2 hours ago · 1

Pasif Income PC love Indonesian
2 hours ago · 1

Cyqo Jepara Garuda selalu di dada kita dan PC tetap di hati kita ,spirit love PC selalu,,, Indonesia Love PC ❤
2 hours ago via mobile · 1

Rillah Leres pc bravo...excellent..
Indonesia Love PC ❤
2 hours ago · 1

Raja Wali I will wait for you untill your server is done...
I am believe PC will be the stong ona BO in the wold...
Keep spirit always and continu to take action...
I Love You PC...
Indonesia Love PC...
Go go go go PC ...
2 hours ago via mobile · 1

Kholid Syaifuddin Muhtarom Garuda is always on our chests and PC stay in our hearts, the spirit of love PC always,,,
Indonesia Love ❤ PC
2 hours ago via mobile · 1

Bunga Desa we are member pc always member together forever
Indonesia love pc
2 hours ago via mobile · 1

Nurdiusman I still believe the pc hopefully we can be successful together with the pc, Indonesia Love PC ❤
2 hours ago · 1

Giggs Schwarz life is like riding a bicycle, to keep your balance, you must keep moving.
Indonesia Love PC
2 hours ago via mobile · 1

Ira Putri already 1 year in JBP / PC, the best investment sustainable indefinitely, I love you Profitclicking
Indonesia love PC ❤ ❤ ❤
2 hours ago

Jan 'ian' Tiraada Profit Clicking....positive prospects for your finances.....Indonesia Love PC ❤
2 hours ago

Si Ndrew AjaLah PC is the most powerful, can change in every human life, pc wheel was spinning as clockwork, and that we may not be possible here,
Getting in front of the PC, and the other the miss
move on PC,, I ❤ PC Forever
2 hours ago · 1

Zhee Innezta I liked the program profitclicking, hopefully the future is always more fascinating
Indonesia Love PC ❤,
about an hour ago · 1

Herie Bachtiar Rifa'i Great, congrat for Indonesia people . . .
Indinesia Love PC
about an hour ago · 1

Duwi Saputra Profit clicking is the best, business on line number one is the word, I still believe the pc hopefully we can be successful together with the pc Our PC Our Experince Our Financial Freedom Our Imagine and Wonderful ProfitClicking really changes my life,
With it, i starting to feel the real financial freedom and continue life with pleasure success is not destination but it is a journey
so that more of our friends from Indonesia who wins.
specifically for ARDI PRABOWO, I hope in contest next time can be the first ranked. Congratulations to ardi Prabowo!!!
Successfully for all members PC,
Hopefully PC always give things interesting and best for all of us,
Our members love Indonesia PC!
INDONESAN LOVE PC ...I ❤ PC Forever
about an hour ago · 2

Ate Mustopa Dua Indonesia Love PC ❤
about an hour ago

Aing Billy Ibrahim 98% solution for financial problem and it's true and good to be true
make action for the solution to becom true, i can feel it money flowing never ending

Indonesia Love PC ❤
about an hour ago · 1

Abdul Latief Karkun indonesia LOVE PC
about an hour ago · Edited · 2

Profit Clicking It's great to hear all your comments and I can feel the Love. If you tweet your comments using #PC love you could win the next contest. ☎
about an hour ago · 1

Herie Bachtiar Rifa'i Ok, all people of Indonesia very-very love PC . . .
about an hour ago · 1

Zainul M Putra Bumigora pc is the best solution to go financialll freedomml......i love u pc...........
about an hour ago

Juliauwanto With PC.. Im The Winner... Impossible Is Nothing .. PC is My Dream Come True - Indonesia Love PC ❤ - Indonesia Love PC ❤ - Indonesia Love PC ❤. Yessssss!!!
about an hour ago · 2

Kukuh Hendri Many months I have joined this program, from JSS to turn into a PC, during that time I learned the system. Never happened to me with despair to what I've experienced at JSS transition to the PC, but it is not the case ANSWER. guess it started to disappear on their own with I continued to follow a system that is built PC and I continue to follow the advice of the Mater PC that has been long in this business. I finally get my adpackges position continues to increase. Fair sales profit me $ 10 per day, multiplied by 20 days if it can reach $ 200. PC is not a program that makes us rich quick, but the PC can make us successful and wealthy. Some members have complained that WD hard, I've been there. But this is where lies the unique business PC. Apparently the key is: patience is the main thing in this business, the second is a business strategy that we have in play "PLAYER" on the PC, the third is the mindset we have built and motivated to be more creative in the PC business. PC is all of our future business. OK, I like u PC and Bravo to you. Indonesia Love PC ❤
about an hour ago · 1

Napit Napitupulu 98% solution to solve financial problems, it is right and true. I feel the money continues to flow without stopping .. PC is the best Indonesia Love PC ❤
52 minutes ago

Muhammad Arifin PC akan selalu maju dan saya percayakan keuangan saya di infestasikan di PC. karena PC hingga saat ini masi Top Online Bussines. maju terus PC. Indonesia Love PC ❤
32 minutes ago

Imelda Amelia SC The bigest hope today is PC growth better and better...
Do your best PC..
Indonesia Love you..
Profitclicking
26 minutes ago via mobile

Indrawati M Jusuf PC is the first online business that I follow and never want to try another online business because I am sure that the PC will be successful forever. Indonesia Love PC ❤
25 minutes ago

Mbah Tatong PC is an incredible online business, yes, I believe it. I believe the PC was able to change my life and my family. Keep going forward and there developed. We (members of Indonesia) will always supportive and optimistic about you. Because we believe the PC is capable of giving and changing our lives become more, more, and better.Indonesia Love PC ❤
23 minutes ago · Edited

Ahmad Scremo Freshtilldeath PC is an incredible online business, yes, I believe it. I believe the PC was able to change my life and my family. Keep going forward and there developed. We (members of Indonesia) will always supportive and optimistic about you. Because we believe the PC is capable of giving and changing our lives become more, more, and better.Indonesia Love PC ❤

This post has been edited by jbird1234: Today, 10:19 PM

NikSam

02-16-2013, 06:49 AM

This is just normal.
Indonesians do not speak english, and rely on ones who can to come up with the promoting messages, most of them do not have an idea what exactly they posted.
they just know it says "PC is good" :)

Saw a-lot of them before promoting AVO.net , Uinvest and others the same way, hundreds use exact same text.

EagleOne

02-17-2013, 06:55 PM

Well, my2sense finally let the cat out of the bag and admitted the depth of her involvement in PC at MMG, and I quote:

"So thats your opinion, duly noted, now you don't need to say anymore until something different happens one way or another.. I have $10,000 invested,,, do you hear me complaining???

By the way haven't made any withdrawals, and won't until I see everything is back to normal, and it will come back..."

She's also was upset with me "exposing" JBP/PC as a Ponzi. I, along with all the other members of PC who now know this is a Ponzi, are hurting PC from being able to come back. We just have to be patient and PC will recover. Great things coming. Yep, been hearing that since last May when it was JBP.

baylee

02-17-2013, 09:55 PM

busttheblock

02-19-2013, 07:33 AM

Guess who is back - This was posted in the mmg forum:

Our dear Frederick Mann is back:

CLICKPAID

Now in PRELAUNCH

GLOBAL IMPACT IN
IT'S AS EASY AS CLICK... VIEW... PAID!
PAID IN LESS THAN 60 SECONDS!

Who doesn't
love quick cash?
Click and get paid for
viewing sites daily.
GET THE FACTS

Advertisers Need Traffic - You're Paid For Generating It!
YES, Its Really That Simple!

Users can get paid easily into their accounts once they complete any of the offers on the Click Paid site. Different offers will offer different payments.

The Click Paid referral program has just two levels. Users can get paid on their first level referrals and on their second level. Both levels combined can become very lucrative! In addition to this, Click Paid offer many extra bonuses and cash prizes.

Accepts Payza and PayPal

There will be a Conference Call by Frederick Mann in Feb 28 or March 1 so stay tuned.

Check it out here:

VISIT AND JOIN HERE

Get in to be part of Phase 1:

What's so special about Phase 1?

There is a special perk to being placed into Phase 1 status. When Click Paid launches the Panel Matrix in the next few weeks, you will be placed at the top, allowing you to cycle through the matrix faster and start earning amazing income even faster!

scratchycat

02-19-2013, 10:25 AM

Is this the end? As far as I know last time bucket was open at 02/03/2013. This is when I hit it for the last time. Has anybody hit the bucket after that (except monitors)?

This post has been edited by noice: Today, 12:57 AM

Profit Clicking - Profitclicking.com (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Profit-Clicking-Profitc-t329007.html&pid=7503668&mode=threaded&start=36200#entry7503668)

NikSam

02-19-2013, 02:50 PM

... Our dear Frederick Mann is back:

Something does not match up, Fred Mann and taking paypal ?
I guess i will only take it as such when a see same bearded man pimping this one.

EagleOne

02-19-2013, 04:38 PM

busttheblock

02-19-2013, 06:47 PM

Where was this posted at MMG, and what is the link to check it out? It was missing from your post. Thanks.

Clickpaid - Clickpaid.com (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Clickpaid-Clickpaidcom-t436623.html)

EagleOne

02-19-2013, 09:44 PM

Clickpaid - Clickpaid.com (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Clickpaid-Clickpaidcom-t436623.html)

Thanks for providing the link. I thoought at first I had the wrong one as it was requiring me to be registered to login to access the website. Guess too many people were tyring to access the website at the same time. It works now.

NikSam

02-20-2013, 09:48 AM

Some member posted his correspondence with Jardine Law offices reagrding PC:
3155

URL: http://blog.hyip-pulse.com/profitclicking-scam-owned-by-a-scammer/#comment-2868

Looks like their Lawyer is now careful what he says :) Oh my. Jardine might cash-in again on representing his clients but afraid to be dragged along.

littleroundman

02-20-2013, 10:17 AM

GlimDropper

02-20-2013, 10:49 AM

One wonders how many HYIP ponzi frauds a lawyer can claim to "represent" before he is busted or his reputation is so badly damaged it can never be recovered

I am reminded of the latin phrase from my schooldays:

qui cum canibus concumbunt cum pulicibus surgent ("He that lieth down with dogs shall rise up with fleas")

From earlier in the thread:

It's Jardine... I wouldn't expect any communication from them unless they're being retained on a case that you are also involved with. Remember, this was the law firm that J.J. Ulrich used to spring Harvey Dockstader from prison. At one time I thought that they were a normal, if a bit clueless legal partnership, but nowadays what comes to mind when Joseph Jardine is mentioned is Hugo Ingermann.

If you wake up with fleas from laying down with dogs, I'd hate to think what you wake up with after getting in bed with Dockstader and Ulrich. But it's safe to say your wallet will be lighter.

littleroundman

02-21-2013, 07:07 AM

busttheblock

02-21-2013, 07:51 AM

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/brad_zps3394b7db.jpg

Post #36353 in the ProfitClicking thread on the MMG HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Profit-Clicking-Profitc-t329007.html&view=findpost&p=7508091#entry7508091)

No need to say this HYIP is GOING, GOING, GOING, GOING

this one is G-O-N-E

Looks like old Freddy boys latest ponzi will be here just in time then to help pick up the pieces left over from the PC scam. Oh but wait, that is freddy boys own little mess that he left behind. I hate these damn scammers!

Stevexxx

02-21-2013, 09:06 AM

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/brad_zps3394b7db.jpg

Post #36353 in the ProfitClicking thread on the MMG HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Profit-Clicking-Profitc-t329007.html&view=findpost&p=7508091#entry7508091)

No need to say this HYIP is GOING, GOING, GOING, GOING

this one is G-O-N-E

If indeed it even has anything to do with Freddy, there is nothing mentioned on his B
igbooster website, in fact he's still pushing PC there...

littleroundman

02-21-2013, 09:36 AM

If indeed it even has anything to do with Freddy, there is nothing mentioned on his B
igbooster website, in fact he's still pushing PC there...

Or, whoever is PRETENDING to be Freddie Mann logs into the BigBooster website every now and then and PRETENDS to update the site with PRETEND information.

Let's not forget, outside of the usual suspect HYIP ponzi forums and a squillion ProfitClicking members' websites, NOBODY has personally seen Frederick Mann.

Has anyone seen one shred of evidence that could be used in a court of law which proves Frederick Mann "owned" JustBeenPaid / ProfitClicking or that he even exists ???

Note I said the evidence needs to be sufficient to prove to a court, NOT a million HYIP ponzi players believe it, so it must be true.

path2prosperity

02-21-2013, 10:39 AM

Or, whoever is PRETENDING to be Freddie Mann logs into the BigBooster website every now and then and PRETENDS to update the site with PRETEND information.

That is a good point. Would anybody with an iota of sense sign up for BigBooster? I remember the day it was launched and it was too stupid for words. Sounds as if somebody or somebodies are keeping the thing alive to deflect attention from other issues.

NikSam

02-21-2013, 11:36 AM

A follow up on

3155

Mr. Wessels,

Thank you for your response. I see now why you may have drawn the conclusion that you have. However, my letter should not be read as an endorsement in any fashion of the company. My intention in writing the letter was merely to stop misleading statements regarding Profitclicking.

In any event, I have forwarded your email to the company and you should expect a response back within the next 10 business days.

Sincerely,

Joseph Jardine
Managing Attorney
39 Exchange Place, Ste 101
Salt Lake City, UT 84111
Jardinelawoffices.com
Phone 801-350-3506
Fax 801-746-3508

I am not sure, did he really signs his name under the past threats?
Did he just call ProfitClicking a company?

Is there some office cat who replies to Jardine emails ?
Does any of it sounds like a lawyer to you ?

Old Cease and Desist letter:

To Whom it May Concern:

By this letter, I demand that you immediately take all necessary and appropriate steps to remove the slanderous and misleading statements you have made or promulgated through your website regarding ProfitClicking, JJ Ulrich, and Harvey Dockstader . To insinuate that they operate in a fraudulent or dishonest manner is a violation of both civil and criminal law. By republishing slanderous comments you yourself are liable for the content and consequences of those statements.

You have 48 hours to remove said material from public view. If no action on your part has occurred within that time frame, we will take all legal measures available to us to ensure their legal reputation is not jeopardized by you. These actions may include suing you, seeking injunctions against you, shutting down your webpages and/or server, and publicly denouncing your misstatements.

I am at a loss for your reckless disregard for the truth. Where is your proof that “Profitclicking is a scam?” You accuse Mr. Dockstader of illegal activity in his previous affairs. Again, what proof do you have? I hope you realize that when you accuse a person of a crime in this country, you are committing slander per se. Your only defense is if you speak the truth, and can prove it! Again I ask where is your proof? The fact is, that Mr. Dockstader has no criminal record. His conviction was overturned. Yes, he spent time in jail, but this country is full of stories of innocent people going free after wrongful convictions. For you to continue to state that he is a criminal without any law enforcement agency to back you up is foolhardy to say the least.

You may say, “ok but I didn’t say that, it was Nik.” Since you are republishing his comments without independent verification, you are responsible for his comments as well. If you are comfortable with his slew of allegations, then you better be prepared to defend them in court, as if they came from your own mouth. The damages the above-named individuals are suffering will be counted in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars.

Slanderous blogs such as yours are truly despicable. You should be ashamed of

yourself. I again demand that you remove your comments immediately. Govern yourself accordingly.

Sincerely,

Joseph Jardine

Attorney at Law

scratchycat

02-22-2013, 10:56 AM

Some people are not ready to give it up. I had messages with a person asking them to take a look at this thread. I can't say it in my words, so I have copied the response and will paste here. I will not reference it and you can just take it as my opinion for present but it seems to be a mindset of players likes this one. They have no conscience and taking money like this gives an appetite to risk more and involve others. It is like a gambling habit.

thanks but I have been in it for almost 2 years and have drawn out over 4,000 dollars and I have never had a hard time getting my money out I love the program and even if it closes I have initially put in 1,000 and have made that back so I did not loose anything I got another 4,000 off it for just having my 1,000 in it so 5,000 is good just for about 2 yrs. to do nothing but roll it over. so right now I just consider any money I have in it monopoly money so I have only gained great money which I have already taken out and just playing with what I have in from them, I have never ever lost any money online in 6 years I have been doing things. so its all good thanks for the info

Same person was in JSS/JustBeenPaid.

EagleOne

02-22-2013, 04:18 PM

Some people are not ready to give it up. I had messages with a person asking them to take a look at this thread. I can't say it in my words, so I have copied the response and will paste here. I will not reference it and you can just take it as my opinion for present but it seems to be a mindset of players likes this one. They have no conscience and taking money like this gives an appetite to risk more and involve others. It is like a gambling habit.

Same person was in JSS/JustBeenPaid.

Well, if this person is claiming they are not having any problems getting paid from PC now they are either lying or part of an inside group that are the only ones getting paid.

But the day is coming when this person is going to get burned and burned bad. Then it is going to be interesting to see if they learned their lesson and will be open to listening to the advice from others. Or they get caught up in a sting and get charges filed against them. It is not a zero sum game.

scratchycat

02-23-2013, 08:22 AM

I agree Eagle, with so many pots in the fire, this person is going to get burned sooner or later. Over these 6 or so years, I have been 'invited' to join in the various 'programs' sponsored by this person and others. A lot of money is probably made through recruiting but I never put any money into their schemes. Overconfidence can sometimes be a killer.

baylee

02-23-2013, 07:28 PM

I see that blondie is still pimping profitclicking trying to milk the very last nickel out of people that she can. I also see that she see like to call people who disagree with her "trolls" Image that. I got a name for her but I will be polite.

I can't screen print, this is the only why I know to copy and paste, so here is her post from MMG.

Blondie

post Today, 07:22 PM
Post #36501

MMG Addict
Group Icon

Group: Supporter
Posts: 7,094
Joined: 16-January 05
From: Rocky Mountains, CO
Member No.: 2,147

QUOTE (nora13 @ Feb 23 2013, 04:16 PM) *
Are they going to delete queue withdrawals as they stated there will be no queue anymore?

I have no idea Nora. Maybe someone in the know will respond to that.
(and no, I don't mean one of the trolls here, lol)

I'm just waiting for the next update to fill us in on the details smile.gif

@ Chiron: in your dashboard.

This post has been edited by Blondie: Today, 07:22 PM

--------------------
blondie's lounge - since 2007

Sol-R Energy - Up to 2.7% Daily x 90 days!

The Link:

Profit Clicking - Profitclicking.com (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Profit-Clicking-Profitc-t329007.html&pid=7514171&st=36495#entry7514171)

littleroundman

02-23-2013, 07:53 PM

blondie's lounge - since 2007

Sol-R Energy - Up to 2.7% Daily x 90 days!

No need to describe what you think she is.

She's done the job for you, baylee.

Promoting a 2.7% DAILY ROI, she's nothing but a HYIP ponzi pimp of the worst kind.

Finix

02-23-2013, 08:04 PM

If indeed it even has anything to do with Freddy, there is nothing mentioned on his B
igbooster website, in fact he's still pushing PC there...
The only people who give a damn about such things are the people who want to put admins in jail. The participants don't care if his name is Fred or the devil himself. He wants to be called Fred, then Fred it is.

baylee

02-23-2013, 09:17 PM

The only people who give a damn about such things are the people who want to put admins in jail. The participants don't care if his name is Fred or the devil himself. He wants to be called Fred, then Fred it is.

I have never thought about it that way but you are 100% right when I do.

Finix

02-24-2013, 06:26 AM

I have never thought about it that way but you are 100% right when I do.
It's a handle, just baylee or Finix. The society uses names for enumeration, tracking past histories, etc. You don't need none of that in the money games. You need someone who can keep them going for at least a couple of years. His real name and social status are irrelevant to his ability to run a scam.

Stevexxx

02-24-2013, 08:59 AM

Well they have now introduced a traffic light system for withdraws to let us know when the buckets are open so thought I would give it a go. Sat there for 5 hours when green lights started to flash up and 4 of the buckets opened.. My heart jumped at the chance of getting some of my cash out and instantly hit the withdraw button only to find that all the open processors are under maintenance AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH.. So there we are, another nasty evil heart-breaking twist to the scam, I live in hope of getting some of my money back but alas I don't think i will ever see a penny...

EagleOne

02-26-2013, 09:18 PM

But there is hope for the hopeless in PC, and I quote:

" "The Green Light in the New System is ALWAYS On!"

Did you hear the news?

New, Premium Ad Package System Coming!

- $10 per Ad Package
- 3% a day Daily Sales Commissions
- 10% and 5% Referral Commissions - Multi-Site Advertising System - Daily Withdrawals - up to $1,000 a day per payment processor
- No more full buckets
- No more withdrawal queue
- Same tested compensation plan
- Use your existing wallet funds
- Use your gift cards
- New, fresh panel system

All the components of an Amazing System

Launching within the next few days! "

See, nothing to worry about and all of us naysayers are wrong.

NikSam

02-27-2013, 04:58 PM

I am not sure if someone already mentioned it before, but
Profitclicking.com domain was initially registered by JJ Ulrich himself,
I do not know that many employees or hired consultants (as JJ explains his role) who register main centerpiece as the domain in their own name, do you ?

3231

EagleOne

02-27-2013, 08:15 PM

Actually it was originally under Fred Mann. When it was pointed out that the name was under him and his bigbooster registration, they changed it to Corporate, but forgot to change the contact info. Then they changed all the information to JJ Ulrich trying to make it look like Fred was still not a part of it or owned it.

NikSam

02-27-2013, 08:22 PM

What i showed is the original (initial) first registration by JJ Ulrich on March
Fred Mann first appeared on the domain only in August

3232

Nobody even heard about PC till August

JJ Ulrich never appeared on that domain again except him registering it for the first time

NikSam

02-28-2013, 10:40 AM

... When it was pointed out that the name was under him and his bigbooster registration, they changed it to Corporate, but forgot to change the contact info. ...

Nope, JJ Ulrich showed exactly what he wanted everyone to see, August 4 he changes the owner from JJ Ulrich to Frederick Mann, August 5 Profitclicking is first announced/mentioned.
Everyone who thinks its all just rumor or wrong information, does a whois and confirms that PC is endorsed by Fred Mann otherwise he would not be the owner of domain.
And later they do so called transition to the new team, and change the records to "nobody".

Whip

02-28-2013, 11:57 AM

Nope, JJ Ulrich showed exactly what he wanted everyone to see, August 4 he changes the owner from JJ Ulrich to Frederick Mann, August 5 Profitclicking is first announced/mentioned.
Everyone who thinks its all just rumor or wrong information, does a whois and confirms that PC is endorsed by Fred Mann otherwise he would not be the owner of domain.
And later they do so called transition to the new team, and change the records to "nobody".

I even floated the possibility, in this thread, that they were one in the same anyway.

NikSam

03-01-2013, 03:36 AM

3243

LET’S HIT BACK at ProfitClicking by not clicking PC ads. PC will surely die without us clicking ads. .....

:RpS_lol:

NikSam

03-04-2013, 03:33 PM

NikSam

03-05-2013, 02:37 AM

Whois also shows that JJ Urlich was the first (before Fred Mann) owner of the ClickPaid.com domain
http://www.realscam.com/f8/latest-scam-clickpaid-2062/#post47557

Fat City, LA

03-07-2013, 10:28 PM

Looks like tonight was all she wrote. No more Doc calls. 24/7 long gone, most monitors from FB pag, etc

Q:How did these nitwits not monetize such a huge, active membership like JBP/PC?
A:They went in stealing and nickel and dime ing from day one.

Check out this thread from a PC members FB page. 20k in PC, schools fees and cant go back now, etc
http://profitclickin... | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/ProfitCliickiing/posts/297617487034353)

littleroundman

03-16-2013, 09:53 PM

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/660/profiteq.jpg

littleroundman

03-17-2013, 02:51 AM

Why anyone would pay a single cent for something as worthless as a HYIP ponzi fraud gift voucher is beyond me.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/mabi_zpsb5e7e620.jpg
ProfitClicking thread, Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5132457&postcount=4907)

Another sign this one is dead and buried, though.

aussie_striker

03-22-2013, 10:59 PM

JBP, Profitclicking, Clickpaid are basically one and the same. I called JBP a ponzi when I first saw it and was mocked by people who were in it. Then it went to profitclicking and people still claimed it was going to be for real and legit. Sometimes people need to wakeup to reality. The problem is the people making lots of money do not want to lose that. They claim it is for real because they have made a lot. That is not what makes it legit, that is what makes others promote it.

littleroundman

03-24-2013, 04:59 AM

Wouldn't this make your eyes water ??

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/profit1_zpse602546d.jpg

One day you think you have $250,000 - the next day you have nothing.

The reality of HYIP ponzi fraud.

ProfitClicking thread, Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5143816&postcount=4978)

NikSam

03-24-2013, 05:34 AM

One of the comments from ICC blog (ClickPaid Call Record: It’s Him! | InternetCyberCrime.com (http://internetcybercrime.com/clickpaid-call-record-its-him/#comment-75):)):

Update 1: Profit Clicking – Clickpaid – Frederick Mann – Profit Holdings – SCAM SCAM SCAM

It takes a real investigator to discover the truth of these career criminals. I was invited to join Just Been Paid in early 2012 and immediately recognized this was a Ponzi. I started attending calls being hosted by Frederick Mann, Carl Pearson, Lavour Lewis, PK Clarke and an assortment of moderators that handle the live meeting/training rooms. I began to investigate this organization to prevent more people being hurt. I always say “Don’t be a victim, be a hunter of the wicked and protector of the innocent!”

I have now developed relationships with over 60 of the key leaders and we have been compiling evidence to give to the Government where these leaders are located. We believe the organization has now exceeded 2.2 Million Members and has frauded people out of more than $200,000,000 Dollars. If you want to be added to this Investigation you can email me the details you have and we will add you to the package being prepared. There has been much recent activity as one of our key technical staff was able to gain access to 4 email accounts and this information has opened the details to a whole new level.

Here is what we have learned:

Frederick Mann (Arizona – fm1@amug.org):
Frederick Mann: This is an older man who is also know by other alias names such as Michael Freeman. We believe both names are not accurate, however, we do know he lives in Arizona and is the mastermind of www.JustBeenPaid.com, www.ProfitClicking.com, Make Money Online - Home-based Business - Business Opportunities - Money-making Secrets (http://www.BigBooster.com), www.LuvvLiving.com, BuildFreedom.com -- Free World Order (http://www.buildfreedom.com), Project CertoPower (http://www.certopower.com), and his new endeavor Welcome to ClickPaid (http://www.ClickPaid.com). He has multiple other projects that our CI in Canada has explained he is developing. These consist of what is known as “The Billion Dollar Plan, AFX, My Ad Power, Think Real Group, Top Success Clinic, Viral Profit List and list of other entities. In an email below you will also see they have a bank to funnel their money through. Frederick operates like “Oz” from the Wizard of Oz. He hides behind the curtain pulling the strings. Frederick is well educated and a freedom activist. We have been notified he has known affiliation with Terrorists Cells and is believed to support these members financially. You can see a video of him at: Frederick Mann & BIGBOOSTER! part 1 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W82gm_Oc-ns)

Carl Pearson (488 West Shore Road Westport Island, ME – Cell: (207) 210-7254 – carl@carlpearson.info):
Carl Pearson and Frederick Mann are business partners. Carl is on all the paperwork for payment processors and the corporations. He is the master programmer who programmed the software and runs all operations within the company. Carl also owns and operates 3 Eagle Farm a miniature horse ranch. (3 Eagle Farm (http://www.3eaglefarm.com)). You can also see more information about Carl at (Carl Pearson (http://carlpearson.info/)). Our CI has given us significant information about millions of dollars being stolen from the company while Carl has been running operations. Our CI has also made us aware there is a significant disorganization in the ranks of the company. Our CI has a top level position within the company and has been feeding us information from early April 2012; however, within recent months they have provided information leading to a significant increase in information. Carl position in the last few months has changed to a subordinate role. He remains on all the accounts and overall control of the finances, however, a disgruntled employee just let us in on a lot of additional information.

J.J. Ulrich (10808 South Riverfront Parkway South Jordan, UT – 801-381-5111 – me@jjulrich.com)
J.J. Ulrich is the latest newcomer to this cult. He was recruited into the company by Carl Pearson and Fredericks other right hand person PK Clarke. We know of this guy all too well. Many people first saw him when he shut down Elite Activity and started a company known as Connecting Us All. This guy is as stupid as they come. (J.J. Ulrich | "Where impossible is just another opportunity" J.J.Ulrich (http://www.jjulrich.com)) He is constantly getting involved as a self-proclaimed expert in these money making Ponzi Schemes. The employee we have been speaking to says J.J. brought on many people he has worked with to supposedly bring this Ponzi into compliance. We are being told he is like a tyrant and incredible difficult to work with. Also that he is a naive story teller with no practical skills other than being a con man. J.J. brought on a Criminal Defense Attorney Joseph Jardine – Jardine Law Offices (Criminal Defense Attorney / Lawyer Salt Lake, Personal Injury Law Firm Salt Lake City (http://www.jardinelawoffices.com/)) from Salt Lake City to be in house council for the company. He must know the inevitable outcome of what is going to happen to all these criminals.

PK Clarke (28 Radford Ave Fort Erie Ontario, Canada – (905) 871-4054 – joinpktoday@gmail.com)
PK Clarke is the Operations Director for www.ProfitClicking.com and www.LuvvLiving.com . We have been informed that she replaced Carl Pearson in his operating role due to her being in a romantic relationship with Frederick Mann. PK manages the over 300 employees the company has. We believe the recent structure changes to the company were developed by PK Clarke. We have had a very difficult time getting any information on PK. We are not even sure if this is her real name.

Now onto the juicy stuff… We have recently uncovered an email from our CI showing the complete operating structure of the company. This email is authentic and was extracted directly from the Money Mastermind Teilon Ferreira the man who controls all the money and corporate accounts for Mr. Frederick Mann. (Teilon Ferreira – 732-820-0454 – 2130 Apollo Dr Ocean, NJ – teilon102480@gmail.com) Teilon Ferreira and Carl Pearson are the money launders for Frederick Mann. They hold all the cards and the accounts for this Ponzi.
Below you will find an email extracted from our CI showing the current structure of the company:

Email Sent From Frederick Mann:

Folks,

I propose that we implement the following ASAP:

1. Chief Operating Officer – Founder – Owner (COO – FM) — in charge of company overall; coordinates work of the “top executives” who report to him.

2. Chief Financial Officer (CFO – Teilon) — reports to COO; responsible for corporate structures, overall financial health, handling payment processor accounts, payroll, withdrawals, bank accounts, etc.
(Teilon is also the Company President.)

The CFO also ensures that there are budgets for all appropriate parts of the Company. All parts of the Company need to operate within their budgets. If necessary, pay needs to be reduced and/or people laid off.

3. Establishment Officer (ESO – Margrit) — reports to COO; works with ORO to provide personnel and resources; responsible for “hatting” (job descriptions) and personnel training. May assist COO with “company establishment issues” (like legal structures, offices, etc.) Works with HR on hiring, “hatting,” and firing. Ensures that all personnel are doing useful work.

4. Planning Officer (PLO – Kevin) — reports to COO; ensures that we have proper implementation plans, project plans, technical specifications, and operating plans for all company operations. The PLO may collaborate
with the other “top executivess” and Department Directors to improve planning. We need implementation plans for at least:
(a) Marketing Af-x
(b) Advertising System (MyAdPower)
(c) Search Engine (ScrewStop)
(d) Viral7Up
(e) Upgrading Traffic Exchange
(f) Top Success Clinic (TSC)
(g) LuvvLiving
(h) Think-Real Group (TRG)
(i) Our payment processor
(j) Our bank

(Kevin could also be responsible for Product Development.)

5. Business Development Officer (BDO – PK) — reports to COO; responsible for program
and product development, particularly Jomboa, LuvvLiving, TopSuccessClinic,
MyAdPower (advertising system), and ScrewStop (search engine): Billion Dollar Plan (http://bigbooster.com/jbp1.html)

BDO needs to be informed of all new business development. There’s also a business-intelligence function
with 3 parts:

(a) Using current data, including analytics, to identify the “products” (see #6 below) PRO should focus on increasing the production of.
(b) How to best monetize our existing programs and websites, including bigbooster.com, buildfreedom.com, certopower.com, etc.
(c) What new businesses we should get into next: Billion Dollar Plan (http://bigbooster.com/jbp1.html) Responsibility for the BI function could be split between BDO, PLO, and PRO.

6. Product Officer (PRO – PK) – reports to COO; responsible to see that the company’s “products” are being produced/completed. “Products” include implementation steps that need to be completed, all the tasks individual staff members need to complete, products like ebooks, courses, etc. the company can sell, web pages to be designed, etc. The PRO is most interested in speeding up the production/completion of “products” that will most increase revenue/profits with the least effort. The PRO identifies “blockages” or bottlenecks and gets them resolved. When the PRO spots organizational issues that prevent or impede production, she informs the ORO to fix/improve organization, add resources, or improve training.

7. Organizing Officer (ORO – Doc) – reports to COO; ensures that personnel, procedures and work flow are organized to optimize production. Whenever necessary, works with ESO to get additional personnel and resources. Spots “missing functions” — things that should be done that are not being done, and reports them to COO and PRO.

The Department Directors report to the ORO. The ORO coordinates the activities of the Departments.

The #2-7 executives are all on the same level.

Carl is responsible for PC.

JJ is responsible for CP and the India team.

Carl and JJ report to COO. They can also play advisory roles in respect of other projects,

Questions, comments, suggestions?

FM

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I’ll pay you $1 million, if…
http://www.justbeenpaid.com/?r=bigbooster&p=jsstripler3
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We are unaware of who Margarit and Kevin are and how they fit into this scam other than the roles outlined in this document. “Doc” is Harvey Dockstader (Harvey Dockstader – Colorado City, AZ – 435-817-7267) a top level executive and our CI says he is the new spokesperson for the company. He handles the Wednesday calls where he tries to hide his true identity by calling himself as “Doc”. We are not sure of his true involvement. We will attempt to get the location and contact details for both Margarit and Kevin and update this when the information is available.
As you can see this con goes very deep and is affecting millions of people. We will keep you informed as more information surfaces.

Don’t be a victim, be a hunter of the wicked and protector of the innocent!
Sherlock
Lead Investigator
Truth Island Investigation

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Update 2:
Topic: New Update – New facts From Profit Clicking/Just Been Paid Ponzi

In our recent update we provided details to the illegal organizations ran by Frederick Mann and the individuals he has running these organizations. Our team is working with a series of leaders to gather details, create significant challenges for their organization, disrupt workflow, and gather financial resources by targeting their financial centers. All this information will be used to add to our legal complaint submitted to law enforcement agencies to help shut this company. Weeks ago our team gained access to some very interesting details. We have now received copies from the company’s corporate paperwork directly from the Dominican Republic where Teilon lives with his Wife and new daughter. The more important details we gained access to are conversations held by the company’s executives.

We have now gained access to conversations from a team referred to as the Operations Team. This group runs the operations of the company and includes Frederick Mann, PK Clarke, Margrit Terceman, Teilon Ferreira, Patrick Bielen and Kevin Campbell. In a few occasions we have recordings of Frederick Mann being on the call, however, he says little to nothing during these calls.
Listening to these calls opened our eyes to the real operations behind this organization. From the sound of the calls PK runs the entire operations for Teilon and Frederick. In our last status update it was our knowledge that Carl Pearson (488 West Shore Road Westport Island, ME – Cell: (207) 210-7254) ran all the operations of the company. The information on these calls have changed the facts and provided compelling additional information. The Operations team determines all the priorities and they spend a lot of time mocking the effectiveness of the current staff that is operating the company.

We have now lost access to several of the systems we were monitoring and they have now discovered our attempts to disrupt their operations. Now that they are aware of us they are working very hard to discover every area we have monitoring their operations. We discovered that J.J. Ulrich (10808 South Riverfront Parkway South Jordan, UT – 801-381-5111) discovered we had access to key information and filed a Police Report to track us down. We are attempting to get the police report that was filed. Our team found it interesting Mr. Ulrich would involve the police based on his involvement with the company. We will let you know more when we get access to the actual police report. The new information gained from the phone calls made us shift our strategy to concentrating on the Operations team. We are working on getting the calls transcribed and will provide them here when they are available.

We have a lot more information, however, with the recent events over the last few weeks we felt it vital to confirm the data before we post the new information we have. Below you will find the key people we now investigating and will let you know when we know more.
Tag: Companies: Just Been Paid, JBP, Profit Clicking, Profit Holdings, Viral7Up, VPL, Top Success Clinics, Think-Real Group
Tag: Frederick Mann – Michael Freeman – Arizona – 602-840-3111 – frederick@bigbooster.com –
Tag: PK Clarke – 28 Radford Ave Fort Erie Ontario, Canada – (905) 871-4054 – joinpktoday@gmail.com – known con women for multiple online organizations and scams.
Tag: Margrit Terceman – 9077 Mustang Road Alta Loma, CA 91701 – (909) 210-2505 – tnargrut@yahoo.com – known con women investigated for Securities fraud: www.corp.ca.gov/ENF/pdf/2010/TercemanM_dr.pdf
Tag: Teilon Ferreira – 2130 Apollo Drive Ocean, NJ – 732-820-0454 – teilon102480@gmail.com – www.facebook.com/teilon.ferreira – Wife – Maria Alejandra Ferreira – Daughter – Noliet Ferreira – Believe to be the real Frederick Mann and Michael Freeman. He lives with his wife and newborn baby in Santiago De Los Caballeros, Santiago, Dominican Republic – This is the same location the companies are setup.
Tag: Patrick Bielen – Location Unknown – patrick@bielco.nu
Tag: Kevin Campbell (Location Details Unknown or Details)

path2prosperity

03-24-2013, 06:07 AM

Haha, Fred Mann is calling from JJ Ulrich computer and pimping Clickpaid :) Clickpaid First Webinar with Frederick Mann Get Half Of Our Commissions Back - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6JNJvmTW2qo#)!

ProfitClicking is promoted very heavily by Louis Miguel Goitzolo from Adlandpro. Louis contributes to all Scamland's art forums but is his interest art or scam promotion? Louis is promoted (for that purpose?) by Roger Macdavitt as a genuine authority on the world of fine art which impresses a lot of newbie Adlandpro members who could follow Louis (and Roger Macdititt?) into the ProfitClicking scam.

Louis Miguel Goitizolo

Fine art promoter or ProfitClicking scam promoter?

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/members/miguelgoitizolo.aspx

Rioger Macdivitt has been invited into this forum to explain why he allows Yasni to list him as a medical practitioner but he has not offered an explanation. If I am wrong and he is not a ProfitClicking member, he can inform us and he will get a chance to answer questions about his Yasni entry at the same time. You would be welcome to explain things here Roger.

Whip

03-24-2013, 07:40 PM

ProfitClicking is promoted very heavily by Louis Miguel Goitzolo from Adlandpro. Louis contributes to all Scamland's art forums but is his interest art or scam promotion? Louis is promoted (for that purpose?) by Roger Macdavitt as a genuine authority on the world of fine art which impresses a lot of newbie Adlandpro members who could follow Louis (and Roger Macdititt?) into the ProfitClicking scam.

Louis Miguel Goitizolo

Fine art promoter or ProfitClicking scam promoter?

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/members/miguelgoitizolo.aspx

Rioger Macdivitt has been invited into this forum to explain why he allows Yasni to list him as a medical practitioner but he has not offered an explanation. If I am wrong and he is not a ProfitClicking member, he can inform us and he will get a chance to answer questions about his Yasni entry at the same time. You would be welcome to explain things here Roger.

He thinks scam promotion is an art. lol

littleroundman

03-27-2013, 06:22 AM

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8387/albuc.jpg

Just Been Paid / Profitclicking thread, Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5149679&postcount=5007)

path2prosperity

03-27-2013, 06:56 AM

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8387/albuc.jpg

Just Been Paid / Profitclicking thread, Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5149679&postcount=5007)

I wonder if Louis Miguel Goitzolo from Adlandpro is one of those who are in receipt of selective payments.

Rumours and yarns that people who post names of Adlandpro members are asking for a libel writ against RealScam are annoying me. True or false. You decde.

Louis ProfitClicking (http://profitclicking.com/?r=krishnanand)

Louis Miguel Goitzolo from Adlandpro (http://path2prosperity.com/images/adlandlouis.jpg). Mugshot.

Adlandpro Deletions Director and his employees have been hard at work but the paper trail of all dubious characters is not hard to find.

littleroundman

03-29-2013, 10:04 AM

laidback

03-29-2013, 06:58 PM

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/8260/freec.jpg

ProfitClicking thread, MMG HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Profit-Clicking-Profitc-t329007.html&view=findpost&p=7588854#entry7588854)

Those #@%&* members trying to get their money out again.

What's the HYIP ponzi business coming to ???
Gloryoskey! I must be doing something right. I responded to that post and got a threatening pm from my2sense... It is great to be loved....!

baylee

03-29-2013, 08:56 PM

Gloryoskey! I must be doing something right. I responded to that post and got a threatening pm from my2sense... It is great to be loved....!

I have received a few from him/her/it over time. I was so flattered that I open the case number of whatever scam he/she/it was referring to IC3 and sent the link to them along with the threatening PM. Whatever the FBI or Secret Service or other organization that IC3 forwards the information to. I love IC3 as it is so easy to report these scams and scammers, and cheerleaders.

littleroundman

03-31-2013, 04:50 AM

Every now and then, in amongst the cheerleader B/S and the shills lies on the usual suspect HYIP ponzi forums, you get one little flicker of the reality behind playing HYIP ponzis:

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6383/noluck.jpg

littleroundman

03-31-2013, 11:36 AM

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/500_zps6f25ab6d.jpg

DrunkenTiger

03-31-2013, 03:52 PM

littleroundman

03-31-2013, 06:53 PM

So I get an email from one of my uncle's thing morning to a Youtube video (http://youtu.be/jDbWt6IrqNA) of some guy saying by adding money in the Premium account you're able to withdraw. I stay still think the whole thing is bs. I have no involvement in it. But unfortunately my uncle does. He just wants to get his money he put in, out. Just wanted to know what your thought's about the vid.

Once you have realized that HYIP ponzi fraud exists for one reason and one reason only, the video is easy to understand.

HYIP ponzis exist solely to take as much money from as many people in the shortest possible period of time with the least expenses as is possible.

There is no other reason.

Fat City, LA

04-01-2013, 01:55 AM

3. Establishment Officer (ESO – Margrit) — reports to COO; works with ORO to provide personnel and resources; responsible for “hatting” (job descriptions) and personnel training. May assist COO with “company establishment issues” (like legal structures, offices, etc.) Works with HR on hiring, “hatting,” and firing. Ensures that all personnel are doing useful work.

??????? Is it the head mod, Ive seen Margrit reference.
https://www.facebook.com/tinieopsteegh?ref=ts&fref=ts

4. Planning Officer (PLO – Kevin) — reports to COO; ensures that we have proper implementation plans, project plans, technical specifications, and operating plans for all company operations. The PLO may collaborate
with the other “top executivess” and Department Directors to improve planning. We need implementation plans for at least:
(a) Marketing Af-x
(b) Advertising System (MyAdPower)
(c) Search Engine (ScrewStop)
(d) Viral7Up
(e) Upgrading Traffic Exchange
(f) Top Success Clinic (TSC)
(g) LuvvLiving
(h) Think-Real Group (TRG)
(i) Our payment processor
(j) Our bank

(Kevin could also be responsible for Product Development.)
-Tinie aboves boyfriend?, cant remember his last name.

littleroundman

04-08-2013, 05:46 AM

Anyone got $300 they'd like to lose ???

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/basic_zps82360cd1.jpg

JustBeenPaid / Profitclicking thread, Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5170064&postcount=5116)

scratchycat

04-08-2013, 08:45 AM

Here is another 'confession' about profitclicking:

RE: Do you know Profitclicking?

3/13/2013 9:52:46 PM

Hi Vincentina!

Great to see You My Friend!

Thank You for posting your invitation for all of us here... much appreciated.

I am with Profit Clicking myself, forced by the sales of Just Been Paid; I have quite some money in there and, not able to get a penny out of there. I seriously hope that you do not have too much money in there as the day will soon come where they will disappear with all of our money... TRUST ME!

Keep me posted on your success.

Have an awesome day!

To your Succe$$,

Alain

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