justbeenpaid / ProfitClicking

[ProfHenryHiggins]

Eh? Who was the original author of that piece, EagleOne? And where was it posted?

[surfer]

Eh? Who was the original author of that piece, EagleOne? And where was it posted?

JustBeenPaid - justbeenpaid.com (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/JustBeenPaid-j-t329007.html&st=11925&p=6925377#entry6925377)

[baylee]

It is easy to file a complaint to IC3 about this scam and it doesn't require standing either. All it takes is a few minutes of ones time and it's all done on line.

Link:

Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) | Home (http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx)

[EagleOne]

Let's explain about what the US can and can't do when it comes to having jurisdiction regarding investment opportunities.

If an investment program offers investments to just one US Citizen, US laws and regulations must be adhered to and followed. It makes no difference where the company/program is domiciled (located), they still must comply with US securities laws. That is the requirement of the SEC.

It is a myth that being offshore, in cyber space or in a galaxy far, far away, the US laws don't apply. The US had extradited dozens of people who were running an illegal Ponzi outside the borders of the US to stand trial. In fact, extradition proceedings are underway for Peter Roor (Pedro Dispenza online moniker), who is a Dutch National, and his wife to stand trial here in the US.

The same is true for most other western countries, so this nonsense that because JBP operates on the Internet makes them exempt from securities laws in the US, or in other countries, is all bunk, a myth and a lie.

Every HYIP program and non-HYIP Program admin tries to make this bogus claim. Just because the gullible and the players in these programs accept it as being true, does not make it true.

So much for I'm offshore or in space somewhere so the laws don't apply to me mantra.

[EagleOne]

Another one who gets it, and this is from the MIN forum, which is now closed for failure to pay hosting fees:

January 31, 2012
Braden @ 3:32 pm
@pikot:
I have been in JBP since May of last year and I have earned over 30k. The rumblings you are hearing are about the last restart. This is a feature where the program restarts once the obligation to pay becomes greater than the money coming in. When this happens the positions that earn daily (short term) are converted into matrix positions (long term). Your daily earnings decrease, but your overall portfolio increases in value. The issue people had is the last restart came sooner than people were expecting. I for one love the restart feature; much rather take a hit on my daily earnings than have the program disappear.

And that my friends is a classic definition of a Ponzi. The only problem with his logic is that Fred Mann will not keep doing these restarts for very much longer. People are beginning to learn that they indeed lose money every time one is done, and as each one is done they will continue to lose even more. But for the claim this is sustainable indefinitely using this formula is hilarious.

Fred knows the longer he tries to keep his Ponzi running, the greater chance he has of the authorities moving in. So he will only do this a couple more times at best before he runs with the money. Unless of course the feds move in first. No doubt the clock is ticking, and it remains to be seen who punches the timeclock first.

[EagleOne]

Now all the major pimps of JBP/JSS have claimed this is a legal program. Of course it is not registered anywhere, but it is still legal. So if this is such a legal and upstanding program, why do they insist upon these two clauses:

6. I affirm that I am not an employee or official of any government agency, nor am I acting on behalf of or collecting information for or on behalf of any government agency.

7. I affirm that I am not an employee, by contract or otherwise, of any media or research company, and I am not reading any of the JBP pages in order to collect information for someone else.

in their membership agreement? Hmmm, now why do you suppose that is?

I think Fred should become our Treasury Secretary, and handle all the US investing so we could end our national debt in just 2-3 years. Then we could get Greece, France, Italy, Germany, or any other country for that matter to join also. Why with all the money these countries could infuse into his program, world debt would be eliminated in 2-3 years. Yet he doesn't want anyone of them participating. How narrow minded of him.

[littleroundman]

HeHeHe,

Don't ya just love those "membership agreements" ??

Ya gotta laugh, though.

Can you imagine Freddy Mann or his sycophant, MoneyMakingBrain fronting up in court and saying:

"I object to this witnesses' statement, Your Honour.

He signed the membership agreement certifying he isn't a reporter or Government agent, and he told a dirty rotten lie.

The defense moves he should be sent to the naughty corner"

What a lot of poppycock.

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/rinserepeatjpg.jpg

As well as the obvious questions,

The other question nobody has yet answered is: how is "Frederick Mann" able to produce 2% per day interest WITHOUT fraud being involved..

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/rinserepeatjpg.jpg

As well as the obvious questions,

The other question nobody has yet answered is: how is "Frederick Mann" able to produce 2% per day interest WITHOUT fraud being involved..

Oh that's an easy question. The answer is HE CAN'T. 100% impossible, never been done (or even close) and never will be.

[scratchycat]

This may be in here somewhere but I found it interesting enough to resubmit for reading.

EDITORIAL: ENOUGH! Payments For ‘JustBeenPaid’ Purportedly Routed Through Canada From BigBooster.com Email Address Linked To Frederick Mann At Domain That Uses Street Address In South Africa; Pitch Site Features Repurposed Video Of Warren (http://www.patrickpretty.com/2011/10/13/editorial-enough-payments-for-justbeenpaid-purportedly-routed-through-canada-from-bigbooster-com-email-address-linked-to-frederick-mann-at-domain-that-uses-street-address-in-south-africa-pitch/)

Here is a report from APSense also:

Just Been Paid / JSS Tripler... Ponzi Scam Alert by Udo Hoffmann (http://www.apsense.com/article/just-been-paid-jss-tripler-ponzi-scam-alert.html)

This one Patrick posted last October:

MoneyMakerGroup Ponzi Forum ‘Temporarily’ Closes ‘JustBeenPaid’ Thread After Bickering Between Former Club Asteria Pitchman And Pitchman For ‘New’ Program Trading On JustBeenPaid’s Name (http://www.patrickpretty.com/2011/10/31/moneymakergroup-ponzi-forum-temporarily-closes-justbeenpaid-thread-after-bickering-between-former-club-asteria-pitchman-and-pitchman-for-new-program-trading-on-justbeenpaids-name/)

[littleroundman]

Damn, buy a premium membership and wait "35 days" at the tail end of a HYIP ponzis' life, I DON'T THINK SO:

Only newbies would think of "investing" new money at this late stage.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/complaintandreply.jpg

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/jbp-1.jpg

Sigh,

remember the good ol' days of Just Been Paid, when it was all so simple ???

2% per day. No hoops to jump through, no "restarts" no need to continually pay more to "upgrade"

I'm tellin' ya, anyone who sends money off to Frederick Mann now had better kiss it goodbye BEFORE they send it,

'cos they sure as eggs won't be seeing it again. Not in this lifetime, at least.

Anyone missing all the hints and clues being put out there really deserves to lose their money now.

[laidback]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/jbp-1.jpg

Sigh,

remember the good ol' days of Just Been Paid, when it was all so simple ???

2% per day. No hoops to jump through, no "restarts" no need to continually pay more to "upgrade"

I'm tellin' ya, anyone who sends money off to Frederick Mann now had better kiss it goodbye BEFORE they send it,

'cos they sure as eggs won't be seeing it again. Not in this lifetime, at least.

Anyone missing all the hints and clues being put out there really deserves to lose their money now.
LOL, it is looking like their going to have to rename this from "JustBeenPaid" to JustBeenPhuqued...!

[EvilZoe]

LOL, it is looking like their going to have to rename this from "JustBeenPaid" to JustBeenPhuqued...!
JustBeenLAID? lol

[littleroundman]

I'm tellin' ya:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/untilnow.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4696761&postcount=1708 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4696761&postcount=1708)

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/jbp-2.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4697881&postcount=1714 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4697881&postcount=1714)

[littleroundman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vjWZKMRHZMQ

I couldn't decide whether to post this in the Just Been Paid thread or the When times are tough, HYIPs become more ridiculous (http://www.realscam.com/f10/when-times-tough-hyips-become-more-ridiculous-1084/) thread

Which is more ridiculous ??

2% per DAY interest

OR

a HYIP ponzi promoter claiming he will now, or will ever, be able, to pay out $1 MILLION

OR

the B/S membership claims:

JSS-Tripler now has 306,677 members -- having grown by just over 12,000 new members during the past 48 hours


Still, I suppose desperate times call for desperate measures.

Freddy is obviously desperate.

[scratchycat]

Guess they want to get in on this list:

The 10 Nastiest Ponzi Schemes Ever | Business Pundit (http://www.businesspundit.com/the-10-nastiest-ponzi-schemes-ever/)


The King of Get Rich Quick, Charles Ponzi became a millionaire in six months by promising investors 50% return in 45 days on international postal coupon investments. He earned $15 million, which in 1920s terms was serious money. After Ponzi was caught, investors only received $5 million back.

Nastiness Factor: Mythical. This ancestor of fraudulent men passed his name on to the many schemes that would follow his own. His legacy, and his scheme, are forever memorialized, earning them a unique Nastiness Factor label.

[EagleOne]

The pressure is building for a restart. The amounts he is having to pay out is getting too much for him to keep this going much longer without one; or he just runs with the money.

He will be lucky if he makes it to the end of this month before he has to pull the plug claiming it is a restart. The longer he runs this, the more he knows the authorities could be closing in on him. What will be most interesting to see is if he does shut it down claiming a restart and instead just disappears. The CONSOB shut-down was a warning shot, and there is no doubt he is worried other countries won't be far behind.

It has now reached critical mass, and that's when these go bye-bye, or the feds raid. The next few weeks are going to be interesting indeed.

[baylee]

Patrick Pretty's latest! Patrick is the best!

SPECIAL REPORT: Hollow Claim: Caller Brings Up AdSurfDaily Ponzi Prosecution In JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid Conference Call; Frederick Mann Tells Affiliates Operating In United States That ‘We Don’t Have An Office In The U.S.’
By PatrickPretty.com 6:41 pm Mar 17, 2012

Link:

SPECIAL REPORT: Hollow Claim: Caller Brings Up AdSurfDaily Ponzi Prosecution In JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid Conference Call; Frederick Mann Tells Affiliates Operating In United States That ‘We Don’t Have An Office In The U.S.’ (http://www.patrickpretty.com/2012/03/17/special-report-hollow-claim-caller-brings-up-adsurfdaily-ponzi-prosecution-in-jss-triplerjustbeenpaid-conference-call-frederick-mann-tells-affiliates-operating-in-united-states-that-we-dont-ha/)

[MoneyMakingBrain]

Originally Posted by MoneyMakingBrain


irrelevant, rationalizing, justifying nonsense

Any further off topic posts while be similarly dealt with

Please remain in your own rubber roo......thread

[ProfHenryHiggins]

And that link is one the reasons this crackpot forum was set up. And how can we forget Eagle, right Lynn?

MMB


Reason it was set up? Are you now claiming that mortals can time travel, MMB? Because I would call you a liar if that were the case.
2012 is later than 2010.

[MoneyMakingBrain]

Originally Posted by MoneyMakingBrain


irrelevant, rationalizing, justifying nonsense
Any further off topic posts while be similarly dealt with

Please remain in your own rubber roo......thread

[ProfHenryHiggins]

As I've said before, I am neither Lynn nor Patrick, nor am I an Australian.
One would think that you would grasp the concept of cities and counties, not to mention states, having a population rather than singular, Borg-like inhabitants.

[laidback]

As I've said before, I am neither Lynn nor Patrick, nor am I an Australian.
One would think that you would grasp the concept of cities and counties, not to mention states, having a population rather than singular, Borg-like inhabitants.

It is rather apparent that he has no grasp on anything.....!

[littleroundman]

Coincidence or signs of things to come ????

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/asign.jpg

[littleroundman]

Another clue as to how things REALLY are for non pimp members in JustBeenPaidland:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/why.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4712130&postcount=1766 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4712130&postcount=1766)

[littleroundman]

And the signs keep coming:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/justbeenrippedoff.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4712520&postcount=1771 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4712520&postcount=1771)

[Whip]

And the signs keep coming:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/justbeenrippedoff.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4712520&postcount=1771 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4712520&postcount=1771)

What a dope. If it really was growing, he'd actually be getting someone else's money of this '10,000 new members a day'. But it's just not happening. And rebuild what merits?

[littleroundman]

What a dope. If it really was growing, he'd actually be getting someone else's money of this '10,000 new members a day'. But it's just not happening. And rebuild what merits?

This is the bit when reality starts to set in for the "true believers"

Pimps and shills are easy to identify, "true believers" are the ones who start to express outrage when things go wrong.

[path2prosperity]

This is the bit when reality starts to set in for the "true believers"

Pimps and shills are easy to identify, "true believers" are the ones who start to express outrage when things go wrong.

VERY TRUE!

Unfortunately they ususally express their outrage to those who are known to be sitting on the sidelines rather than those who were actually involved in the scam. I have been sent so much information about scumbags like Dr Mara that it makes my head spin. I have published very little on my blog or web pages but I have been thrilled to see the Krimm, Smirnow, Vee and other cyberbullying thugs loosing control and law enforcement gaining more power.

I have found some strange malware when I visit some pages including JBP. I am gathering information about these threats to protect my own system but comments about this subject from tech gurus could be of great value to many who read this forum.

[littleroundman]

OH NO !!!

Not the Korean DDoS attack excuse:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/ddos.jpg

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

OH NO !!!

Not the Korean DDoS attack excuse:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/ddos.jpg

Well it makes a change from dengue fever. lol You'd think they could come up with something more original by now.

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/endgame.jpg

So,

what's the betting ??

* Game over ?

* Genuine DDoS attack ??

* Restart ??

* Malaria/Dysentery/Ebola Virus/Rare tropical disease ??

* Nothing to worry about, put in more money ??

[okosh]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/endgame.jpg

So,

what's the betting ??

* Game over ?

* Genuine DDoS attack ??

* Restart ??

* Malaria/Dysentery/Ebola Virus/Rare tropical disease ??

* Nothing to worry about, put in more money ??

My bet is they will return and 10cent-boy will wave his pom-poms and say "Nothing to worry about, put in more money"....

This one should be good for at least a couple more rounds....Errrr....I mean restarts...

[littleroundman]

Would all those wishing to claim their million bucks please form an orderly line to the left.

Thank you.

Freddie M


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Lj-rf8YjlaM

JustBeenPaid - $1 Million Dollar Challenge! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj-rf8YjlaM)

[okosh]

Freddie M


Freddie M??....
Thought you'd have posted the video to "Another one bites the dust"....

[littleroundman]

Freddie M??....
Thought you'd have posted the video to "Another one bites the dust"....

You know it's unAustralian to kick a man while he's down.

Anyway, readers have a right to know who they have to call to claim their million smackers.

[surfer]

Looks like the Korean attack is over, lol.

Site is back up and it looks like it's been changed a little.

[okosh]

And here is the update from admin saying that all is well and please, please, please deposit some more $$$.....



Welcome to all our new members!

During the past 24 hours our servers were subjected to a devastating DDOS (Distributed Denial of Service) attack.

Fortunately, today we were able to implement "DDOS protection" to nullify the current attack and also to protect against future attacks.

So we're back in business! You should now be able to access the JBP, JSS-Tripler and JSS sites for business as usual, although for some of you, propogation maybe still need to happen - this can take another 24 hours possibly.

Meanwhile, the 2% earnings will NOT be paid tomorrow. We'll resume the daily 2% earnings 24 hours later, just as to be expected.

Also, because of the servers being down we're unable to pay tonight's withdrawals. We'll also resume paying withdrawals as soon as we can, most probably tomorrow also.

As described in the previous update, this downtime is no reason for panic. Last August we had a "business time-out" for over a month while we did a Restart and moved to offshore servers. After
that we came back in full force!

Working for our wealth and success,
Frederick Mann

[okosh]

And the update saying that the daily % on Sat and Sun will drop due to a lack of fresh money being deposited...



Welcome to all our new members!

Thanks to the heroic efforts of our systems admin staff, we've been able to get almost everything up and running after a massive DDoS (Distributed Denial of Service) attack that started on April
2nd. We now have proper DDoS protection to minimize the effects of future attacks.

Good news! The 2% daily earnings will resume tomorrow (April 5th) and can be expected to continue daily without more interruptions.

Typically, on Saturdays and Sundays our funding drops to about half of the levels for weekdays. For this reason, from now on, the daily earnings for Saturdays and Sundays will be 1.5%. This will save us a lot of money over time, and could significantly increase the time between Restarts -- another great idea from one of our members!

Withdrawals were not paid since 4/1, but expect them to be paid today, and after that, each day without delay, especially since our system is getting more reliable with each passing week.

The Help Desk just started working properly since the DDoS attack, so please expect a couple days of delay in answering your requests -- keep in mind, we usually had a 24-48 hour turnaround time on answering help desk requests before the DDoS attack.

Otherwise, please feel free to report any other issues you have experienced since the DDoS attack -- several changes had to be made to get us back up and running properly, so a problem or two might still exist for you.

JSS-Tripler now has 434,880 members. Thank you to our many promoters for doing such a great job!

[laidback]

It has just been posted at MMG that a restart is imminent: JustBeenPaid - justbeenpaid.com (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=329007&view=findpost&p=6973106)
After a couple of surprise restarts, now an announcement? Sounds like the push for funds to do a runner with....

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/restart.jpg

[Eddie Haskell]

How many restarts does this make now?

[path2prosperity]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/restart.jpg

And who is cindy when she is at home? I am almost cerain that I know the identity of the person concerned. Rogues from the Kent Black and Jack Cobb era are not below the radar. If cincy cares to speak up in her defence, I may apologise. I do not like to cast aspersions on an innocent person. If cindy has accidently created a user name similat to that of a well known scammer, it is better to speak up and reveal his/her identity.

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/more.jpg

[littleroundman]

Shills and pimps = justgotpaid

Regular members = not paid

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/jbp-4.jpg

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/JBPMMG.jpg

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/nobunaga.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4732858&postcount=1882 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4732858&postcount=1882)

[pico3021]

I haven't been with jbp too long and even though it's been proven tha a person doesn't need to sponsor to make money, well i want to take on the challenge of trying to earn more by sponsoring, i will have to start off with free so does anybody know of any free but effective ways to try and get sponsors from one of my pages? Would really appreciate the info ...thank

[Soapboxmom]

pico3021,

Welcome to the site. I think you might be barking up the wrong tree. You are unlikely to get advice on how to perpetuate what is an obvious scam on this particular board.

Here is some constructive advice:
1,357 ways to make more money than in MLM. (http://mlm-thetruth.com/tools1/1357ways/)

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/jbp1.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4738924&postcount=1915 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4738924&postcount=1915)

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/amended.jpg

http://www.justbeenpaid.com/ (http://www.justbeenpaid.com/)

[scratchycat]

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Comments: Everybody is raving about this program. The website is fine, speed if good, design isn't all that great but functional. I can see why people would like the content. From a psychological view the website pushes all the right buttons to get you in. The program itself is a bit confusing which is the part that I don't like. It is not very clear where the money comes from but if you dig a little deeper (read the interview) you'll find that this is a hybrid program. Some money comes from new members spending their way in, another part comes from revenue such as a Paid-To-Surf program. The program owner advertises that this is 'Indefinitely Sustainable' but I doubt that. Given the fact that withdrawals (cash flow out) are increasing rapidly in size I doubt that this is sustainable at all. The very fact that recently this program had a 'reset' illustrates just that. The cash flow in couldn't keep up with the cash flow out. Alexa here is showing us that traffic is pretty much topping. That tells us there can't be much new money coming in. No matter how you shift positions in the system and other tricks you do on paper, eventually it all boils down to stalling because it didn't change the incoming cash flow. Eventually the cash flow in can't possibly keep up with the ever increasing cash flow out. The next reset will be sooner. Now I might be wrong about this but after some discussion with people in the know I found no evidence or reasons to change my view. Up to today nobody could explain to me why this would be Indefinitely Sustainable. I'm sure the program owner will have some other tricks up his sleeve to prolong the duration of this program. But I'm seriously doubting if most people will like it as much as they do now in 6 months from now. Time will tell. Anyway, that is just my opinion against the other 9 positive ones above. Don't flame me for having an opinion ;-)



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Where is Fred Mann?

[surfer]

Wow, after reading through some of the WealthBooster Magazine Archive (http://bigbooster.com/7million/wbm/), I don't think there has been a ponzi or pyramid scam in the last decade that old Frederick Mann hasn't been a part of.... 12DailyPro, Prosperity Automated Systems, YMMSS, Reality Millions, and on and on.

[scratchycat]

Wow, after reading through some of the WealthBooster Magazine Archive (http://bigbooster.com/7million/wbm/), I don't think there has been a ponzi or pyramid scam in the last decade that old Frederick Mann hasn't been a part of.... 12DailyPro, Prosperity Automated Systems, YMMSS, Reality Millions, and on and on.

Old Freddie might be giving Andy a bit of competition, you think??

[EagleOne]

Wow, after reading through some of the WealthBooster Magazine Archive (http://bigbooster.com/7million/wbm/), I don't think there has been a ponzi or pyramid scam in the last decade that old Frederick Mann hasn't been a part of.... 12DailyPro, Prosperity Automated Systems, YMMSS, Reality Millions, and on and on.

I think that maniacalmoronbrain should tell us which one of these Fred lost money in, and which one he got taken by the admin. After all he "knows" that Fred did because Fred said so, and mmb believed him. Fred being such an "honest" man.

[littleroundman]

Judging by his posts, I think it's entirely probable MonkeyBrain has no idea of the existence of HYIP ponzi scams or the underworld in which they exist.

To MonkeyBoy, Surfer pointing out that Freddie Mann was involved in "12DailyPro, Prosperity Automated Systems, YMMSS, Reality Millions, and on and on" meant nothing in terms of establishing a pattern or as a pointer to past behaviours.

[littleroundman]

tick-tick-tick

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/jbp-9.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4760705&postcount=2086 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4760705&postcount=2086)

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/jbp-13.jpg

What an excellent idea.

Now, where is that bloody credit card ??

[Nancetta]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/jbp-13.jpg

After about 40 days, my free $10 is sent back to JPB so now I have about $5 bucks interest for my 'Legendre' effort...

Legendre:

"From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Adrien-Marie Legendre (1752–1833), a French mathematician
Legendre (crater), a lunar impact crater located near the eastern limb of the Moon"

Let me get this straight...After 40 days I may get about $5 bucks 'interest' (do I get to withdraw that $5 bucks?)...Then you suggest I fund my account with $1000...So, you give me $10 bucks free... I possibly/may get $5 bucks interest (not sure if can w/d)...Then you want me to 'fund' my account with $1000?...Ah'm a thinkin' this 'Legendre' effort is more a big crater than any mathematician...

Uh, why, after my free $10 bucks earned about $5 bucks interest, do I have to turn around and invest $1000? The 'math' just doesn't add up:RpS_confused:...Maybe it's just me...I never was very good at math:RpS_blushing:


[quote]littleroundman: What an excellent idea.

Now, where is that bloody credit card ??

LRM, if you will 'loan' me your credit card I will gladly put $1000K into this 'crater'...You trust me...uh...this...right? (Really need 'whistle icon' here)...

[littleroundman]

LRM, if you will 'loan' me your credit card I will gladly put $1000K into this 'crater'...You trust me...uh...this...right? (Really need 'whistle icon' here)...

Better still,

why don't I give you the serial number, P.I.N. number, CVV number and expiration date in my next post.

I mean, what could go wrong giving those details to strangers online ??


DUH !!

[surfer]

Interesting update on the PPBlog (http://www.patrickpretty.com/2012/05/25/urgent-bulletin-moving-jssjbps-frederick-mann-admits-company-is-not-registered-government-workers-part-of-a-criminal-gang-of-robbers-thieves-murderers-liars-imposters-program-patri/).

So Fred Mann admits he's a criminal and is a bit off his rocker to boot. :crazy:

[Whip]

Interesting update on the PPBlog (http://www.patrickpretty.com/2012/05/25/urgent-bulletin-moving-jssjbps-frederick-mann-admits-company-is-not-registered-government-workers-part-of-a-criminal-gang-of-robbers-thieves-murderers-liars-imposters-program-patri/).

So Fred Mann admits he's a criminal and is a bit off his rocker to boot. :crazy:
Shhh. Don't tell 'manndownthedrain'.

[EagleOne]

Hmm, the restart began and everyone is happy.....well, not everyone. Seems there are a few people who have not been paid for several days now, some didn't get their 1.5%, and can't get into the website back office.

On cue, as soon as they posted, we had the rush of "I got paid" posts and of course the member had to have done something wrong because Fred is such an honest man and a great admin. This even happened on the MMG forum where anyone who dares raise any question or post payment issues is immediately drowned out by the "I got paid" posts and of course it is the members fault they aren't getting paid.

When this goes down, and it will, it is really going to be interesting to read all the "excuses" as to why, as well as all the moaning and groaning and crying. One just gets the feeling that Fred knows this has just about run its course when you listen to his conference calls. Of course the faithful never hear this, but only what they want to hear. The only question is will he continue until the Feds move on him, or will he try to run first.

I get the feeling he wants the Feds to shut him down so he can blame them. He knows the faithful will never blame him. As a sovereign, this will make him a hero and martyr in their eyes.

[Whip]

I say he runs and starts something else like Bowdoin did.

[okosh]

I say this one is good for a few more restarts yet....

[littleroundman]

I say this one is good for a few more restarts yet....

Yep,

the pimps and shills are moving into overdrive and singing the praises of restarts,

the newbies are agreeing with them,

still some mileage in this one,

unless those really behind it decide to buck the Bowdoin/Marsden/CEP trend and snatch the money and run.

[MoneyMakingBrain]

[COLOR="#0000CD"]I think that maniacalmoronbrain should tell us which one of these Fred lost money in, and which one he got taken by the admin. After all he "knows" that Fred did because Fred said so, and mmb believed him. Fred being such an "honest" man.

Thanks for this and the last posts in my "I make a fool of myself" thread. :)
There is no question that Fred knows all the ins and outs as well as all the perils of running a bad HYIP. It gives me more confidence and reason to say that the old man probably knows what he is doing. You, on the other hand, consider his experiences in those programs as a bad thing. Well, how can you build a better program than those who failed without knowing those who did and why???


[B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Hmm, the restart began and everyone is happy.....well, not everyone. Seems there are a few people who have not been paid for several days now, some didn't get their 1.5%, and can't get into the website back office.

It has been exactly as I said: Fred waited several days to fund its merchant accounts from his own bank account at a rate of $100,000 dollars per day (which is most of the payment processors' funding limits). That didn't include all the "Triplers" that were converted into JSS positions and which reduced JBP's liabilities acquired before February 17, 2012.

The restart took place when all funding was completed and triplers' conversions balanced JBP's financial sheet.


On cue, as soon as they posted, we had the rush of "I got paid" posts and of course the member had to have done something wrong because Fred is such an honest man and a great admin. This even happened on the MMG forum where anyone who dares raise any question or post payment issues is immediately drowned out by the "I got paid" posts and of course it is the members fault they aren't getting paid.
Well, you should question why people aren't running in throngs upon throngs, pushing and shoving you out of the way to make a line at the BBB to file complaints of fraud. There is clear evidence that JBP has an enormous amount of members now. You would think that after operating for more than a year, there would be at least one single complaint filed against them by now. Some say JBP has close to a million users, but I can't confirm that.


When this goes down, and it will, it is really going to be interesting to read all the "excuses" as to why, as well as all the moaning and groaning and crying. One just gets the feeling that Fred knows this has just about run its course when you listen to his conference calls. Of course the faithful never hear this, but only what they want to hear. The only question is will he continue until the Feds move on him, or will he try to run first.

That's your opinion all over again, Lynn. To put things in perspective, each time you've predicted that the end was coming, you have been consistently wrong about that.


I get the feeling he wants the Feds to shut him down so he can blame them. He knows the faithful will never blame him. As a sovereign, this will make him a hero and martyr in their eyes.
More hearsay. Your feeling is wrong and it makes no sense from the business stand point. Fred is making more money than anybody, not only because he is the biggest sponsor of it's own program, but he is probably paying himself a nice salary as the owner of the company, and which he rightfully deserves.
So, to assume that he wants the "Feds" or anybody to shut him down is a ridiculous statement at best coming (not surprisingly) from you.

Let me get this straight...After 40 days I may get about $5 bucks 'interest' (do I get to withdraw that $5 bucks?)...Then you suggest I fund my account with $1000...So, you give me $10 bucks free... I possibly/may get $5 bucks interest (not sure if can w/d)...Then you want me to 'fund' my account with $1000?...Ah'm a thinkin' this 'Legendre' effort is more a big crater than any mathematician...


Uh, why, after my free $10 bucks earned about $5 bucks interest, do I have to turn around and invest $1000? The 'math' just doesn't add up...[b]Maybe it's just me...I never was very good at math

It is YOU....Nobody is asking you to deposit $1K.....nobody is forcing you to deposit any specific amount of money, but if you really want to cash out the free $10, you are going to compound the 2% interest on your gift for about 112 days.

Here is another tip, if you want to expedite receiving your whopping $15, , just buy one TRIPLER position ($10) and in only 68 days you can withdraw $25. That is $15 (your bonus) + $10 (your deposit).

Now, do you "clearly" get the idea???

[MoneyMakingBrain]

That didn't include all the "Triplers" that were converted into JSS positions and which reduced JBP's liabilities acquired before February 17, 2012.

This was inaccurate of me. The exact date, according to Fred, was April 7, 2012.

[EagleOne]

Hmm, could it be there are signs that there may be chinks in the armor of JBP? A lot of people not getting paid, others who accounts are frozen with no expanation, problems accessing the site, conversations banned about customer- service related issues on the conference calls, support tickets not being answered for weeks or more, and of course members E-mails hacked.

As in true Ponzi fashion, as soon as these posts start showing up on the Ponzi Forum threads for JBP, we have the obligatory "I got paid on time, what a great and honest guy Fred/admin is, if there is something wrong with your account it's your fault."

And now comes the dreaded "P" word.....Patience. Usually this word is not used until there are massive payment issues with people not getting paid posting on the forums. For them to be trotting this word out now, could mean that there are many not getting paid that do not post on the forums. They have to keep up this front that all is well in JBP-land so they can sucker even more people into this Ponzi.

No doubt the next few weeks are going to be interesting to see if the number of member complaints rise regarding all these issues that are happening now.

[scratchycat]

Just found one from Uganda promoting this on Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/naturinda1


Justbeenpaid is an International company and started in 2004 to help online marketers start seeing the reality of making real big money online without having to suffer too much, working for pennies.
It has grown very fast and steadily and now, people from all over the world converge to cerebrate its presence daily, it does great life and has created daily smiles each time members check in!
You are missing daily money from JSS tripler and 50% profit on any savings you make, on addition to 10% commissions on saving members you bring.
MONEY TRIPPLER (http://www.naturinda.ws/justbeenpaid)

News of nonpayments must not have reached some people. MONEY TRIPLER - what a joke!

[scratchycat]

https://www.facebook.com/naturinda1#!/tripleyourcash

Their own PAGE!



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Shahzad Hanif Hi dont you think that that programs like TGP and Royalty7 will have effect on JBP members? JBP should also launch similar to or better than TGP in their Level 2? is TGP indefinitely sustainable? appreciate your comment.
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Engle-Jones Aquino ‎15 dollar one time payment awch
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Maybe MMB could go over and be a leader for them! Fred would probably appreciate that!

[EagleOne]

https://www.facebook.com/naturinda1#!/tripleyourcash

Their own PAGE!




Maybe MMB could go over and be a leader for them! Fred would probably appreciate that!

Can't you just see him telling everyone that he knows who they are due to his IP Detector and web bugs! Now that would be worth reading.

[EagleOne]

More people having their accounts frozen, payments being delayed, issues with STP, and can't access the website.

What is truly fun to watch at MMG is all those who are epxressing 'issues' with not being paid, can't access the website, and then the immediate posting of I got paid on time as always. Straight from the Ponzi handbook.

[littleroundman]

They're a sympathetic bunch of cheerleaders over at JustBeenPaid.

This poor guy is one of the low level members caught up in the payout problems:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/jbp1-1.jpg

What does he get ?? Sympathy ?? Offers of help ??? Suggestions ??

Nah, in true HYIP ponzi player fashion he gets:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/jbp2-1.jpg

[EagleOne]

That's nothing. Over at MMG if you complain they ban you.

[littleroundman]

Hmmnn, I see what you mean:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/mmg-1.jpg

Perhaps it's simply mind over matter.

Freddie doesn't mind, and the members don't matter

[EagleOne]

Sadly he wasn't the first, and won't be the last. I think their issues are compounding faster than they thought they would at MMG.

[EagleOne]

Hmm even more not getting paid posts at MMG, others expressing problems accessing the site, triplers not being credited; and then of course all the I got paid immediately or I got paid on time posts followed. Just too predictable.

There have been a lot of complaints at TG, but MMG has been relative free, but no longer. These next few weeks are really going to be interesting to see if this trend continues that started just a few days ago, or they get it resolved.

Some of the faithful are telling those who are thinking of putting in more than $500 to hold-off until they resolve the issues. Fred has to have this income to keep this going. If he is forced to do a restart this soon after the last one, it will be the death knell for many. Unless he plans on shutting down before he thinks the feds might move against him. With the recent charges and extradition of Horohorin from France has to have him looking over his shoulder.

[Renegade]

That's nothing. Over at MMG if you complain they ban you.

My friend, ISPY, got an infraction for calling JBP a ponzi.

[littleroundman]

My friend, ISPY, got an infraction for calling JBP a ponzi.

An infraction ???

That's nothing in the world of HYIP ponzis.

Wait until the ponzi goes belly up and the death threats start.

[kschang]

The sad part is JBP are still advertised elsewhere. Here's one in Taiwan:



JustBeenPaid (JBP.JSS), to sleep at home, vacation, shopping, fully automated network system can help you make money - JBP Asian Chinese team


Link to Chinese Classified Ads Kijiji.com (http://penghu-kinmen-matsu.kijiji.com.tw/c-Start-Up-Franchise-start-ups--W0QQAdIdZ381476674)

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/jbp-14.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4807260&postcount=2453 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4807260&postcount=2453)

[EagleOne]

I am seeing more and more I'm not getting paid, support tickets are not being answered, I can't get into the back office, payment processor issues, and the faithful pimps cannot post fast enough I got paid posts to drown them out. In fact, some are questioning the "I got Paid" posts since they are not getting paid. The bloom very well be coming off the pumpkin. Even Fred is begging for $1,000 to $20,000 deposits. He's in deep doo-doo and this is going to be really fun to watch in the coming week.

If he has to do a restart, this is over. People will finally wake up and realize all the money is gone and he can't pay until he stops paying and gets enough new money in to pay a little while longer.

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/necron.jpg

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/jbp-15.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4807975&postcount=2464 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4807975&postcount=2464)

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/mann1.jpg

http://testimonials.ws/south-africa/craighall-park/i-sponsored-91-people-in-my-first-month-328860742291524374002081738445192703137.html?spons or= (http://testimonials.ws/south-africa/craighall-park/i-sponsored-91-people-in-my-first-month-328860742291524374002081738445192703137.html?spons or=)

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/mann2.jpg

Frederick Mann today

Same guy ????

[MoneyMakingBrain]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/mann1.jpg

http://testimonials.ws/south-africa/craighall-park/i-sponsored-91-people-in-my-first-month-328860742291524374002081738445192703137.html?spons or= (http://testimonials.ws/south-africa/craighall-park/i-sponsored-91-people-in-my-first-month-328860742291524374002081738445192703137.html?spons or=)

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/mann2.jpg

Frederick Mann today

Same guy ????

You are comparing a picture form the early 60's to one in the past year......look at the nose and ears, do you think they are now that different???

[littleroundman]

There's 2 pictures.

There's no comment.

There's a question: "Same guy ????"

I'm not "comparing" anything.

But, you knew that, didn't you ??

[MoneyMakingBrain]

There's 2 pictures.

There's no comment.

There's a question: "Same guy ????"

I'm not "comparing" anything.

But, you knew that, didn't you ??

http://s16.postimage.org/xj3dmv8kl/oldfred.jpg


Fix it for ya.

Now you can see his face :)

[laidback]

http://s16.postimage.org/xj3dmv8kl/oldfred.jpg


Fix it for ya.

Now you can see his face :)
I see your picture editing skills are right up there with your investigative skills---Non-existent...!

[EagleOne]

Let's see, the government took down CEP, 12DP, PhoenixSurf, and ASD; and Megalido, adventures4U, and several other autosurfs ran with the money. And what does Fred want to do? He wants to add an autosurf to JBP. Talk about painting a bulls-eye on yourself.

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/jbp-16.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/jbp2-2.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showthread.php?t=283019&page=248 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showthread.php?t=283019&page=248)

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/necron-1.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4810038&postcount=2483 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4810038&postcount=2483)

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/jbpmmg-2.jpg

http://www.moneymakergroup.com/JustBeenPaid-j-t329007.html&view=findpost&p=7081758#entry7081758 (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/JustBeenPaid-j-t329007.html&view=findpost&p=7081758#entry7081758)

[AllSeeinGuy]

i give JBP a week, nobody is getting paid other than the mods, Fred and his buddies, also in his latest call he joked that they may not be doing a call next week.

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/jbp-17.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4810832&postcount=2494 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4810832&postcount=2494)

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/mmg-2.jpg

http://www.moneymakergroup.com/JustBeenPaid-j-t329007.html&view=findpost&p=7083004#entry7083004 (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/JustBeenPaid-j-t329007.html&view=findpost&p=7083004#entry7083004)

[EagleOne]

Let's see, we had manicalmoronbrain telling us that JBP did not have to be registered in the US, and the US authorities would have no jurisdiction over JBP. That Fred was smart to do his business in cyber-space, and therefore was not subject to any countries laws.

But wait, there was a big announcement today by JBP, and here is what the announcement had to say, and I quote:

"Exciting Announcement - Our New Legal Team Is Here -

Dedicated to legal compliance with international regulations, JBP is excited to announce the addition of our globally respected legal team. Seasoned in the realm of innovative business models, Jardine Law Offices is our primary source for legal counsel. This new department addition will ensure that Just Been Paid is acquiescent with all laws and regulations in every area that we serve.

Founding attorney, Joseph Jardine, comes to us with a globally rooted reputation for his skill, persistence and case by case savvy. His ability to acquire and win cases that other attorneys have deemed hopeless is the reason legal professionals herald him as a pioneer in his field. His extended expertise and commitment to customer welfare within an ever-evolving industry is what makes Jardine Law Offices and JBP a perfect fit.
A true advocate for his clients, Jardine will never persuade you into an unsatisfactory plea agreement just to resolve a case. Instead, he brings a competitive spirit and sharp perception to each individual. His client’s interest has been and will always remain his foremost concern. As he states in his own words, “I want to make sure that our clients are better off than when they walked into our office for the first time. It's a huge honor to represent a person's liberty and to fight for their freedom. We take our role seriously and work hard to help our clients."

Jardine Law Offices | Toll Free - (866) 550-3505 | 39 Exchange Place Suite 101 - Salt Lake City, UT 84111 - United States of America"

But Fred said that JBP did not have to be registered anywhere because he was not "physically" located in any country and therefore did not have to register JBP anywhere. Now they say, and again I quote:

"This new department addition will ensure that Just Been Paid is acquiescent with all laws and regulations in every area that we serve."

Now you would think this law firm specialized in Securities Law, Network Marketing Law, or even Business Law from this big buildup. No, they list their services as follows:

Our law firm provides aggressive, responsive, and committed client service in the following criminal cases:
DUI and related drunk driving charges
Implied consent violations, such as refusing a breathalyzer
Felony DUI cases, such as injury accidents or involuntary manslaughter
Driver's license hearings before the Utah Driver License Division
Domestic violence charges
Drug charges from possession to conspiracy to import or distribute
Sex offenses Sex crimes involving minors
Violent crimes such as murder or assault
Federal crimes
State or federal investigations or grand jury proceedings
Property crimes from vandalism to auto theft or burglary
Fraud crimes and other white collar offenses
Internet crimes , computer fraud, or online identity theft
Criminal charges that could result in action against a professional license and related drunk driving charges
Hearings on alleged probation or parole violations

What they are is a criminal law firm. Gee, do you think that Fred might be a little worried the feds are about to come after him? But Fred is not a crook, nor is JBP a Ponzi. :RpS_lol: :RpS_lol: :RpS_lol: :RpS_lol:

[littleroundman]

"This new department addition will ensure that Just Been Paid is acquiescent with all laws and regulations in every area that we serve."

Yup, yup, yup.

When "all the areas that we serve" is the whole bloody internet.

How likely is it a single company which specializes in


DUI and related drunk driving charges
Implied consent violations, such as refusing a breathalyzer
Felony DUI cases, such as injury accidents or involuntary manslaughter
Driver's license hearings before the Utah Driver License Division
Domestic violence charges
Drug charges from possession to conspiracy to import or distribute
Sex offenses Sex crimes involving minors
Violent crimes such as murder or assault
Federal crimes
State or federal investigations or grand jury proceedings
Property crimes from vandalism to auto theft or burglary
Fraud crimes and other white collar offenses
Internet crimes , computer fraud, or online identity theft
Criminal charges that could result in action against a professional license and related drunk driving charges
Hearings on alleged probation or parole violations

would have all their bases covered ??

Maybe in the world of get-rich-quick schemes, HYIP ponzis and those with no experience in the real worlds of business and law, it might seem possible.

But, to the rest of us................................................ ........nah.

[EagleOne]

Now what is truly interesting is that this law firm is in Utah. So does this mean that Fred is now living in Utah? JBP is not registered in Utah, so how does a law firm from Utah do them any good?

Or maybe Fred is revealing more about himself that he needs a criminal lawyer for any one of their other services:

Domestic violence charges; Drug charges from possession to conspiracy to import or distribute; Sex offenses Sex crimes involving minors; Violent crimes such as murder or assault.

Something is not right here, and I think this may be more smoke and mirrors to try to calm the members who are getting nervous the feds might act.

[littleroundman]

I think this may be more smoke and mirrors

IM(very)HO, when playing HYIP ponzis games, the the only way to give yourself half a chance of coming out in front is to remember it's ALL smoke and mirrors.

[Whip]

Thought their name looked familiar:

Fraud Awareness: Company called "Connecting us All" - Spirit Unlimited (Minneapolis, MN) - Meetup (http://www.meetup.com/SpiritUnlimited/messages/boards/thread/19983972)


I was just informed today about a new scam hitting the Twin Cities by a company called "Connecting Us All". This program is being promoted by 2 very well known people in our community (and this is not the first time they have promoted a very bad MLM scam/junk --> please keep in mind, I do not think all MLMs are bad, there ARE some very good ones out there).

This is a Cash Gifting Pyramid Scheme, and one of the founders, HARVEY JOSEPH DOCKSTADER, JR., was put into prison in Texas for awhile because of it when it was called "Elite Activity". Elite Activity has now transformed into Connecting Us All.

This program promises "Abundance" and being able to create cash with "5th Dimensional thinking." They say that this program has been around for 9 years... though, in reality, Connecting Us All was founded in 2009 (http://archive.consta... and from their WHOIS record: http://who.godaddy.co... and BBB: Untitled (http://www.bbb.org/so)...)

This is their website: http://www.connecting...

Here are the Legal briefs from TX: http://www.search.txc...

They claim that HARVEY JOSEPH DOCKSTADER, JR. is not in this program, though, he talks to you in this video introducing you to the "Flip'n" system here: http://www.connecting...

So, if you are approached by someone trying to get you into this program, please let them know about this, and do NOT give them money.

Now, a little more on the company:

Their legal council is Jardine Law Offices... which is a Criminal Defense law firm... (this is very odd)

And just a reminder from Wes at Quatloos:

Quatloos! • View topic - Elite Activity Resurrected (Connecting Us All)! (http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4694&start=60)



Nope. It's common practice, however, for scams like Connecting Us All to write a letter to a firm and then claim that they are on retainer.

[scratchycat]

http://s16.postimage.org/xj3dmv8kl/oldfred.jpg


Fix it for ya.

Now you can see his face :)

Not really, it could be the same person. The ears are the same and the nose does tend to droop a bit with age. I did some comparisons, so look again.

14071408

I guess it really does not matter what the guy looks like now but it was fun to work with.

JBP/JSStripler probably in a free fall but never fear they will do a restart or Tripler 4...

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp3.jpg

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp2.jpg

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp1.jpg

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp4.jpg

[baylee]

I have been reading at MMG and where there is smoke, there is fire and there is a lot of smoke coming from JBP.

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp.jpg

[JustTooMuchTime]

Has anybody called the or written the wacky-choice law firm to confirm they are really representing JustBeenPaid?

"Utah - When Nobody Else Will Take Your Case!"

[EagleOne]

Now we have all been told that JBP does not have a physical address, and they don't need one, because they operate solely in cyber-space. We have also been told, ad nauseum, that because they operate in cyber-space they do not need to be licensed or registered anywhere to do business. So you can imagine my surprise when I saw this on their website, and I quote:

JustBeenPaid is an internationally based organization committed to legal compliance.
Our in-house globally renowned law firm ensures that legal operations are maintained within all of our operations.

Jardine Law Offices | 39 Exchange Place Suite 101 - Salt Lake City, UT 84111 - United States of America

So how does a company that exists solely in cyber-space have an in-house law firm? How does a company that claims because it operates solely in cyber-space and therefore does not have to register or be licensed be legally compliant when you do have to be licensed and registered? How does a criminal law firm ensure they are legally compliant when they don't handle this type of law?

I would appreciate a loyal supporter of JBP to explain how this can be.

[ProfHenryHiggins]

Jardine? Back when they were helping JJ Ulrich, I checked into them and saw that they were only licensed to argue law in two states. I wonder how many other shady businesses "retain" Jardine? Might be something to investigate.

[gotta love it]

Now we have all been told that JBP does not have a physical address, and they don't need one, because they operate solely in cyber-space. We have also been told, ad nauseum, that because they operate in cyber-space they do not need to be licensed or registered anywhere to do business. So you can imagine my surprise when I saw this on their website, and I quote:

JustBeenPaid is an internationally based organization committed to legal compliance.
Our in-house globally renowned law firm ensures that legal operations are maintained within all of our operations.

Jardine Law Offices | 39 Exchange Place Suite 101 - Salt Lake City, UT 84111 - United States of America

So how does a company that exists solely in cyber-space have an in-house law firm? How does a company that claims because it operates solely in cyber-space and therefore does not have to register or be licensed be legally compliant when you do have to be licensed and registered? How does a criminal law firm ensure they are legally compliant when they don't handle this type of law?

I would appreciate a loyal supporter of JBP to explain how this can be.

Eagleone, have you considered getting on one of Fred's conference calls to ask him some of your questions directly? It would be nice to see that happen.

[littleroundman]

Eagleone, have you considered getting on one of Fred's conference calls to ask him some of your questions directly? It would be nice to see that happen.

It's simple.

Fred is offering an impossible to attain 2% per DAY return.

Why would anyone then believe anything else he says ??

[Nancetta]

Originally Posted by gotta love it
Eagleone, have you considered getting on one of Fred's conference calls to ask him some of your questions directly? It would be nice to see that happen.
Oh, my darling...I am not sure if you are asking Eagleone to do this because you actually believe in Freddie...Or, if you think for one second Freddie will tell the truth.

Either way, I have been on many a 'conference call' in a different capacity...Not with JBP, but with others...They, on the conference call, will NEVER EVER tell the truth no matter who the Admin is and which game they are playing. And, I can tell you another thing...No matter WHO gets on the 'call' and starts asking legit questions, they (the person asking the legit questions) will be 'shot down', 'banned', and/or the 'Admin' of said 'hyip/scam' will ALWAYS have an...uh...umm...'so-called' answer. When the 'program/business/hyip' is not legit, the 'Admin' on the 'conference call' will always have an "Answer" to give to those who he has sucked into believing what he has to offer is a legit business...


It's simple.

Fred is offering an impossible to attain 2% per DAY return.

Why would anyone then believe anything else he says ??

Listen to LRM...What Freddie is offering is not possible...plain and simple...bottom line.

LRM...They believe because they want to believe...They are desperate and hopeful and wishing for so much better in life...That is how these 'Admins' and their 'Pimps' suck people in...

[littleroundman]

LRM...They believe because they want to believe...They are desperate and hopeful and wishing for so much better in life...That is how these 'Admins' and their 'Pimps' suck people in...

Sage words, Nancetta.


They believe because they want to believe.

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp-1.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/ (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4818296&postcount=2570)

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbpmmg.jpg

http://www.moneymakergroup.com/JustBeenPaid-j-t329007.html&pid=7092500&mode=threaded&start=15600#entry7092500 (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/JustBeenPaid-j-t329007.html&pid=7092500&mode=threaded&start=15600#entry7092500)

[EagleOne]

Seems someone is starting to catch on that things are not as they seem with this Ponzi, and I quote:

(mikojan @ Jul 7 2012, 03:56 AM)

Hmmm... All these events do not smell to good.

I just compared the top 20 earners from 20 days ago (on my blog I have a screenshot of that time) and the top 20 today. As I can see some of the leaders of the earnings, now there is no longer on the list! What means that? All of their earnings pulled out from Tripler. 20 days ago there were 13 people who earned over $ 100,000, now only 4. Where are the 9 of them have disappeared? The situation is similar with the top 20 promoters. I don't want to spread negative vibrations, but all this does not smell to good.

Despite all... Think positive - be positive!
Long live JBP!

This post was on MMG, page 1060 and Post #15905.

Also what most have not been watching is how all of the major players early on posting at MMG, are no longer posting their "I got paid" and their payment proof. Another dead give-away this is in trouble.

We are seeing more and more payment issues, login issues, triplers not showing up for long periods of time; but of course it is just due to growing pains and all must be "PATIENT." The dreaded "P" word in Ponzi-land.

Some are even wondering if another restart is close, and many are saying it is too soon as Fred had said 175 days before they would need to do another restart, and this has only been 45 or so days since the last so-called restart.

Then of course we had Fred on his last call saying for the upteenth time that there is no outside revenue, and that the only way this continues is from new people joining and investing, and for the current member to compound instead of taking their money out.

They have now hit critical mass, and that's when any Ponzi only has a short-time left before it collapses.

[Dofarrell]

I believe Just Been Paid is completely revamping their entire program to be fully compliant. Why else would they hire a law firm in the USA. I have looked at many of the post on this site and noticed many errors by posters. JBP or JSS Tripler does not guarantee 2% daily. They pay up to 2% daily. Big difference. I think many people are judging this book by its cover, but in reality, I think Frederick Mann is morphing this into something very legitimate, otherwise, why bother to have a law firm? I think when you see the massive fraud being committed by banks, and now high ranking government officials, sometimes I wonder if its safer to trust online opportunities rather than give your money to the Jon Corzines of the world who ripped off $633 Million from his MF Global clients and is a free man today dining at the finest resturants. It's obvious to me, crime does pay for those with the right connections. As it stands right now, I trust the online programs more than I trust the so called mainstream investment companies. Seems like the woile world is coming apart from greed. And the worst of the bunch are the ones connected to Wall Street who get to scam all of us under the so called view of the SEC and avoid prosecution when they do wrong. What does that say about the SEC?

[EagleOne]

I believe Just Been Paid is completely revamping their entire program to be fully compliant. Why else would they hire a law firm in the USA. I have looked at many of the post on this site and noticed many errors by posters. JBP or JSS Tripler does not guarantee 2% daily. They pay up to 2% daily. Big difference. I think many people are judging this book by its cover, but in reality, I think Frederick Mann is morphing this into something very legitimate, otherwise, why bother to have a law firm? I think when you see the massive fraud being committed by banks, and now high ranking government officials, sometimes I wonder if its safer to trust online opportunities rather than give your money to the Jon Corzines of the world who ripped off $633 Million from his MF Global clients and is a free man today dining at the finest resturants. It's obvious to me, crime does pay for those with the right connections. As it stands right now, I trust the online programs more than I trust the so called mainstream investment companies. Seems like the woile world is coming apart from greed. And the worst of the bunch are the ones connected to Wall Street who get to scam all of us under the so called view of the SEC and avoid prosecution when they do wrong. What does that say about the SEC?

New at this aren't you. First, the SEC does not oversee and regulate banks, the OTC does, but this is nothing more than deflection on your part from the true situation with JBP.

Let's let Fred not pay 2% daily and see what happens when he explains the 2% is not guaranteed. He does promise that he "will" pay 2% daily and 1.5% on weekends. He didn't say up to 2%. Read the website.

You have to be legal day one, not open up for business then over the next couple of years start to become legal. The mere fact they are saying they hired this law firm to make them legal proves they are operating currently illegally.

But this law firm is not a business law firm, SEC law firm, or even an MLM law firm. Now I am going to type this real slowly so you get it: They are a CRIMINAL Defense law firm, and they represent "individuals" who have been charged with a crime. They couldn't make JBP legal if they tried.

It has not been proven that they even represent JBP, only that JBP claims it. The mere fact they are a criminal law firm should speak volumens about what they fear is coming.

But if you are going to try to deflect attention away from JBP being a Ponzi, at least get your information correct when you want to illustrate all the "other" types of crime as a reason why JBP is no different. If JBP is no different, then you are admitting they are crooks.

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp-2.jpg

[EagleOne]

I guess I must have ticked off a few of the believer's at MMG in the JBP thread with my last post. Now I can only access page 1 of the thread even though it is showing page 160. They didn't ban me as I can still login under my name, just can't post anything new, at least I think it won't post. I didn't even get a notice that I was blocked or even given a warning.

Guess I hit too close to home and they can't have anyone exposing this Ponzi for what it is. But it won't make any difference as now there are too many posting on MMG they haven't been paid for 2-3 days, triplers are not showing up, and a whole host of other back office issues. Me thinks the Titanic is taking on water, and it is just a matter of time before this sinks for good.

PS: I had a friend check out the thread and was told I am not banned, a temp ban, or a time-out, so it has to be a techie issue. I thought it might be since I could still access the forum and login. And I'm sure I would have received an E-mail advising me of a temp ban or a warning. They have treated me very well since my ban was lifted, and I do appreciate that. Still I'm sure my last post didn't sit too well with the faithful.

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp-3.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4823778&postcount=2629 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4823778&postcount=2629)

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp-4.jpg

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp-5.jpg

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp-6.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4825594&postcount=2649 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4825594&postcount=2649)

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/JBP-7.jpg

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp-8.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4826010&postcount=2654 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4826010&postcount=2654)

[EagleOne]

Notice that maniacalmoronbrain made a hasty retreat, just as I predicted he would, before the wheels started coming off the bus? He used the 24-hour suspension as his excuse to exit stage left. At the rate they are going they will be lucky to survive the month. Fred knows if he does a restart this soon, when he starts back up people will be in total withdrawal mode and it's over.

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp-9.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4827256&postcount=2663 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4827256&postcount=2663)

[laidback]

Over in MMG the secondary shills are kicking up a fuss, a sure sign that they don't feel their fave scam is too healthy.(The primary pimps and shills are generally keeping quiet, counting their money.) They get into the personal attack mode and then call for naysayer bans when they get called out. Wonder how long it has to circle the drain before it gets sucked down...?

[littleroundman]

The primary pimps and shills are generally keeping quiet, counting their money.

If history is anything to go on, the primary pimps got "the nod' a few weeks back and are long gone, taking their referral commissions with them.

[EagleOne]

You gotta love it. As laidback has said, the shills and cheerleaders start name-calling, and when those who were attacked respond, they complain the thread is off-topic. Typical Ponzi playbook. Well I knew this was coming, and finally Yippee took action. The thread at MMG for JBP is now closed for a cooling-off period. Here's what she had to say and I quote:

"Looks like we need a REMINDER here:

This is the final warning in this topic


Members are ignoring the forum rules as well as the moderators warnings in this topic.

This thread is for discussion of the JustBeenPaid.com program ONLY.


You cannot ARGUE or FIGHT with other members who have a different opinion from yours!
You cannot ARGUE or FIGHT with other members who have a different opinion from yours!
You cannot ARGUE or FIGHT with other members who have a different opinion from yours!
You cannot ARGUE or FIGHT with other members who have a different opinion from yours!
You cannot ARGUE or FIGHT with other members who have a different opinion from yours!
You cannot ARGUE or FIGHT with other members who have a different opinion from yours!
You cannot ARGUE or FIGHT with other members who have a different opinion from yours!
You cannot ARGUE or FIGHT with other members who have a different opinion from yours!
You cannot ARGUE or FIGHT with other members who have a different opinion from yours!
You cannot ARGUE or FIGHT with other members who have a different opinion from yours!
You cannot ARGUE or FIGHT with other members who have a different opinion from yours!
You cannot ARGUE or FIGHT with other members who have a different opinion from yours!

If you choose to ignore it, you will receive a warning and/or suspension of your MMG Account - No Exceptions!

If that doesn't work we will consider locking this topic permanently."

[laidback]

Well, my2sense has opened 2 realscam threads at MMG to post everything we say over here... The reason he (she?) is so ticked is that he was one of the diehard P2P pimps back in the day trying to sidestep and wiggle around that scam, gee just like he's doing with JBP...! BTW, Lynn, I think Yippee is female.

[laidback]

LOL serial scammer my2sense sent me 2 PM's exhibiting how immature he really is,
my2sense
You're blocked, Today, 11:22 AM


MMG Member
**********

Group: Member
Posts: 35
Member No.: 151,104
Joined: 29-September 08




So you can kiss my a00BTW, can't find the realscam threads he started...!

[laidback]

Now he has followed up with this little gem:
my2sense
Don't be stupid, Today, 03:10 PM


MMG Member
**********

Group: Member
Posts: 35
Member No.: 151,104
Joined: 29-September 08




Better watch it, I can FIND YOU...

PP blog learned not to FUC0 with me.. you better learn real fast not to either... He has obviously advanced from immature to psychopathic!

[littleroundman]

Better watch it, I can FIND YOU...

PP blog learned not to FUC0 with me.. you better learn real fast not to either...

Oh dear,

no one said MonkeyBrain had a brother/sister.

[laidback]

Oh dear,

no one said MonkeyBrain had a brother/sister.
Hmmm, now the BIG question is which one has the lesser grasp on reality...!

[baylee]

Hmmm, now the BIG question is which one has the lesser grasp on reality...!

I am betting on my2sense, but it's really, really close with the drain! (Almost too close to call) OK, call it a tie!

[okosh]

BTW, Lynn, I think Yippee is female.

Yes SHE is :RpS_wink:

[littleroundman]

The thread at MMG for JBP is now closed for a cooling-off period. Here's what he had to say and I quote:

I don't know if it's the case over at MMG, but, long term observers of the HYIP ponzi "scene" won't be surprised it's happened.

When the trickle of complaints starts to become a flood, it's normal HYIP ponzi forum protocol to close the relevant thread/s, at least temporarily.

Never fear, the heavy hitter shills and pimps are long gone with their money, leaving the true believers and low level "players" behind to take the hit.

[laidback]

Our boy my2sense is upping the rhetoric quotient:
my2sense
Re:Don't be stupid, Today, 06:20 PM


MMG Member


Group: Member
Posts: 35
Member No.: 151,104
Joined: 29-September 08



QUOTE
QUOTE
Better watch it, I can FIND YOU...

PP blog learned not to FUC0 with me.. you better learn real fast not to either...
Maybe... just be certain that is what you really want to do...!

Well what do you expect, call us names, what makes you any better than any of us?

This is a BIG GAME to you guys, well some people it is their bread and butter, so go after another so called scam,, not this one... There are some very BIG NAMES IN THIS if I told you, might have trouble sleeping..

So either heed the warning or ask yourself, have I gone too far...
But by then it's too late... I am a programmer/ hacker

Now I'm sure I will see this on Realscum so don't let me down..

[Whip]

Our boy my2sense is upping the rhetoric quotient:

This retard babble looks familiar.

[littleroundman]

Now I'm sure I will see this on Realscum so don't let me down..

WOW !!!

A real live psychic.

How DOES she do that ???


Define: Empty rhetoric

Empty rhetoric consists essentially of hollow promises-words uttered without any attempt to take the action necessary to back them up. These promises and commitments are made and then ignored or forgotten.

[littleroundman]

Better watch it, I can FIND YOU...

PP blog learned not to FUC0 with me.. you better learn real fast not to either...
Maybe... just be certain that is what you really want to do...!

Well what do you expect, call us names, what makes you any better than any of us?

This is a BIG GAME to you guys, well some people it is their bread and butter, so go after another so called scam,, not this one... There are some very BIG NAMES IN THIS if I told you, might have trouble sleeping..

So either heed the warning or ask yourself, have I gone too far...
But by then it's too late... I am a programmer/ hacker

you know, guys like Brian Krassenstein of Talkgold and MMG and all the other professional HYIPers must choke on their Cornflakes when they see posters like my 2sense coming out in public with threats like that.

It must be hard enough keeping their HYIP ponzi games 'under the radar' as it is, without some LulzSec wanabee threatening to blow the whole thing wide open by involving other agencies as well.

After what happened to Andy Bowdoin, even Blind Freddy knows the I.R.S, Secret Service and FBI are fully aware of what's going on in the HYIP ponzi world.

One can't imagine introducing a little cyber-terrorism into the mix will help them stay 'under the radar' for much longer.

[okosh]

Our boy my2sense is upping the rhetoric quotient:

Laidback....Why don't you invite your friend to come over here for a visit.....You could introduce him/her to me and LRM and all the other fun people here...
I will be glad to personally welcome my2sense to the forum :RpS_smile:

[EagleOne]

Maybe this is mmb's long lost twin? Now what is really interesting is the claim, and I quote:

"There are some very BIG NAMES IN THIS if I told you, might have trouble sleeping.."

Now this could mean organized crime, or the who's who of the Sovereign movement, or the Illuminati, or all three.

Of course it probably is all just blowing smoke trying to impress. Kind of makes you hope the feds do take it down and go after my2sense too.

[littleroundman]

"There are some very BIG NAMES IN THIS if I told you, might have trouble sleeping.."

NEWSFLASH #1:

There's some "very big names" in all of the "next big thing" HYIPs.

NEWSFLASH #2:

The very last thing they're going to do is come out in public and expose themselves by doing something stupid to members of forums or those who speak out against them.

They leave that sort of nonsense up to blowhard wannabe gangsters because they're too busy counting their ill gotten gains.

[Renegade]

Well, my2sense has opened 2 realscam threads at MMG to post everything we say over here... The reason he (she?) is so ticked is that he was one of the diehard P2P pimps back in the day trying to sidestep and wiggle around that scam, gee just like he's doing with JBP...! BTW, Lynn, I think Yippee is female.

Do you know what this scumbag's ID was in P2P? Their forum was extreme cultic. I remember Chris, Wise Owl, and others. Scum of the earth.

[littleroundman]

Do you know what this scumbag's ID was in P2P? Their forum was extreme cultic. I remember Chris, Wise Owl, and others. Scum of the earth.

No mystery there.

She was using the same nick back then as she uses today.

She was most active around October 2008.

If you go back and check the Pathway-2-prosperity thread on MMG you'll find her using the same old tired arguments and threats she's using today.

where's the proof.....yada yada........I'm a 'leet HaXoR....yada yada......you're all negative.....yada yada.....'Merica is not the boss of me.

You know, deep, insightful, well thought out stuff like that.

Mind you, no one's saying she's the sharpest crayon in the box.

She's like the poster child for the "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" crowd.

[laidback]

Do you know what this scumbag's ID was in P2P? Their forum was extreme cultic. I remember Chris, Wise Owl, and others. Scum of the earth.No clue. He seems to have disappeared for the moment. May have garnered a temp ban at MMG.

[littleroundman]

TICK, TICK, TICK:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp-10.jpg

[laidback]

I see that MMG is censoring posts on the side of scams again. A Post that Lynndel had put up pointing out several of Fred's lies is gone. Not much new, is there?

[EagleOne]

I see that MMG is censoring posts on the side of scams again. A Post that Lynndel had put up pointing out several of Fred's lies is gone. Not much new, is there?

Actually I was wondering how long it would stay up, as I knew all who claimed that they had me on ignore would complain big-time to the mods. So let's see how long my last post stays up.

This is in even deeper trouble than I thought if they are censoring posts now. Notice that thebeachworks has totally disappeared from the thread? Too funny.

[okosh]

Actually I was wondering how long it would stay up, as I knew all who claimed that they had me on ignore would complain big-time to the mods. So let's see how long my last post stays up.



It's loooong gone......

The problem you have at MMG is that just about all the mods there don't even hide the fact that they are players....So you can bet that any scam you post in at least some of them are members there and have a finantial interest in your posts not being seen....

[EagleOne]

I think I should send a case of Kleenex to all the cry-babies in the JBP thread at MMG for my exposing their Ponzi de Jour and all of Fred's lies.

Seems my last post got me a warning as I am trolling repeating the same thing over and over (Fred is a liar and JBP is a Ponzi); and of course name-calling by calling Fred a liar. I thought facts were not trolling or name-calling. So much for an open discourse on a Public Forum.

Now this also raises a new question. Since my last 2 posts were deleted, they don't exist. Therefore in the future if I post the same information that was deleted, it cannot be said I am repeating myself, and by not specifically calling Fred a liar is not name-calling, right? :RpS_lol:

[littleroundman]

That all sounds a bit too logical for HYIP ponzi forums.

They're playing and supporting HYIP ponzi games, every thing else is just nonsense.

[okosh]

That all sounds a bit too logical for HYIP ponzi forums.

They're playing and supporting HYIP ponzi games, every thing else is just nonsense.

You use the words, "logical" and "Hyip forum" in the same line?????....Really LRM...Shame on you :pao:

[littleroundman]

You use the words, "logical" and "Hyip forum" in the same line?????....Really LRM...Shame on you :pao:

One can only live in hope, I guess.

I figure that maybe if I hang around long enough I'll get to see someone able to deliver 2% a day WITHOUT being a HYIP ponzi, a HYIP player use logic on a forum and MonkeyBrain string together a coherent sentence.

How's THAT for thinking positive a'la "The MLMers' Handbook"

[littleroundman]

BEWARE !!

RUDE SHOCK AHEAD 1MILE:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp-11.jpg

[Whip]

You use the words, "logical" and "Hyip forum" in the same line?????....Really LRM...Shame on you :pao:

Look how long he had to wait to be able to pull that off...................

[EagleOne]

Well it won't be much longer now until Fred loses Payza as a payment processor. Their board just announced they would be instituting new rules in regard to their customers.

https://blog.payza.com/user-agreement-updates/user-agreement-update

Now what is also interesting is that STP is also moving away from their wink-nod agreements and going to go legit based on their last comments. Seems they are getting heat from FSA and they want to partner with an US bank and their credit card. To do so, they have to clean up their act and get rid of the Ponzi's. So the Ponzi's payment processors pool is beginning to dwinde a little. Of course they still have those in Panama, DR, Costa Rica, Vanuatu, Seychilles, Aruba, Somalia, and Angola that I know will be glad to get the business. The only problem is it is going to cost the Ponzi's more, and they have no guarantee they won't steal all their money. :RpS_lol:

[baylee]

JPB has large scale problems and it is only going to get worse.

[littleroundman]

Tick, tick, tick:



http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/payza.jpg

[EagleOne]

Well it is raising some eyebrows at MMG, but of course many don't think there is a problem as JBP is not doing anything illegal. (cough, cough) Then another one claims they will find a work-out as they won't bite the hand that feeds them. Some are just not smart enough to come in out of the rain.

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp-12.jpg

[littleroundman]

ANYONE, and I do mean ANYONE who ignores the signs and sends any money to Just Been Paid now might as well save themselves the time, trouble and heartache and simply flush it down the toilet instead.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp-13.jpg

[laidback]

One thing the Payza announcement HAS done...at MMG it has served to illuminate the difference between the pimps and shills, ("don't worry, Payza won't cut off JBP", " Payza's silly TOS", etc) and the regular players/members. And of course, then there was redsnapper trying to claim that discussion of the new TOS has nothing to do with JBP...! At least maybe some of them are waking up and smelling the BS.

[littleroundman]

One thing the Payza announcement HAS done...at MMG it has served to illuminate the difference between the pimps and shills,

Absolutely true.

Watching the "true believers" rationalize away the reality of the situation would be funny if it weren't so sad.

[Former Player]

This message below has been claimed to have come from Payza to an HYIP operator.


Dear Zepp Lombardo, This email is to notify you that your industry is no longer supported by Payza. Due to an increasingly stringent regulatory environment associated with your industry, which has been reflected in an update to Section 6.02 of Payza’s User Agreement, we can no longer process payments for your business industry. Because Payza is a licensed money transmitter agent, Payza must conform to the standards and regulations imposed by the U.S.A. and its individual state regulators. As a result, your industry has been included as one of the industries Payza can no longer support. As of July 20, 2012, we will be required to conclude our business relationship with you and terminate your current Payza account. Please be sure to close your Payza account and withdraw all of the remaining funds. After July 20, 2012, your account will be automatically closed or restricted. If you are not able to withdraw your funds before this date, you must contact us for an assessment of your fund withdrawal eligibility. As it is not our intent to hinder your business, we would like to suggest EgoPay, one of our most recent authorized e-currency exchangers, to help with your transition. For additional details on how Payza can help you with this transition, or if you have any questions or concerns, please contact our Business Development Team at bizdev@Payza.com. Thank You for your understanding, The Payza Team”.

[path2prosperity]

Well, my2sense has opened 2 realscam threads at MMG to post everything we say over here... The reason he (she?) is so ticked is that he was one of the diehard P2P pimps back in the day trying to sidestep and wiggle around that scam, gee just like he's doing with JBP...! BTW, Lynn, I think Yippee is female.

Can you give us the link "laidback"?. I did a searc on MMG looking for threads about RS and I could not find any.

[laidback]

Can you give us the link "laidback"?. I did a searc on MMG looking for threads about RS and I could not find any.
Sorry, the threads were deleted and my2sense probably was given a timeout, if not a permanent expulsion. If you do a search for my2sense posts, you'll see where he was coming from...!

[littleroundman]

Sorry, the threads were deleted and my2sense probably was given a timeout, if not a permanent expulsion.

Yep, gone like a http://animated-gifs.org/wp-content/themes/frugal/graphics/cat/smoking/smoking-024.gif

[littleroundman]

Let's have a quick pop test here.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/handsup.jpg

Hands up anyone who thinks this poor soul has any chance of getting his money back before the collapse, much less make a profit ??

[okosh]

Let's have a quick pop test here.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/handsup.jpg

Hands up anyone who thinks this poor soul has any chance of getting his money back before the collapse, much less make a profit ??

So JBP "works" because he's being paid with his own money??....What a :loser:

[littleroundman]

So JBP "works" because he's being paid with his own money??....What a :loser:

Yeah, I love that bit:

"I give you $1000"

"You give me back $1 a day of my own money, (well, "give me back on my screen", I mean)

"I call you a financial genius"

So, the guy quoted above started with $1000 in his pocket, now, 30 days later he has $200 in his pocket and thinks Fred is a hero.

[okosh]

Yeah, I love that bit:

"I give you $1000"

"You give me back $1 a day of my own money, (well, "give me back on my screen", I mean)

"I call you a financial genius"

So, the guy quoted above started with $1000 in his pocket, now, 30 days later he has $200 in his pocket and thinks Fred is a hero.

Fred is not only a hero but a genius....He's got them all in the forums asking what time of day it's possible to actually make a withdraw.....Of course the right answer changes on a daily basis.....
What a brilliant way to keep members away from their money....
In other words Fred treats them like dirt yet they still think he walks on water!!!!

[littleroundman]

In other words Fred treats them like dirt yet they still think he walks on water!!!!

They're caught in the Bermuda Triangle of ignorance, willful ignorance and desperation.

Some people still can't see,

some people don't want to see,

some people see, but realize there's not a damned thing they can do about it.

The guy above is a prime example.

It's taken 30 days for him to recoup just 20% of the money he sent.

At that rate, he's looking down the barrel of another 4 months before he's even recovered his deposit.

Who, in their right mind, would bet on Just Been Paid being around for another 4 months, much less being able to pay a consistent 1% or 2% daily for that length of time ??

Not regular HYIP ponzi players, THAT'S for sure

[scratchycat]

These threads should be linked but here is one member who is telling us the truth:



justbeenpaid

Junior Member
Re: Just been paid!

I lost everything. I was tricked by an old friend named Neil Gallagher. He offered me a free surfboard if I lost any money with Just Been Paid. I lost every penny of the $1000 I invested, so I asked Neil for the surfboard and screwed me on his offer. So I contacted the FBI and the State Police against Carl Pearson and Frederick "The Nutcase" Mann. They are watching and investigating as we speak, and I hope that someday soon these guys get busted.

http://www.realscam.com/f9/just-been-paid-547/index12.html Post #279

[MoneyMakingBrain]

These threads should be linked but here is one member who is telling us the truth:




http://www.realscam.com/f9/just-been-paid-547/index12.html Post #279

Telling the truth??? What's the truth?? That he is an idiot (for getting into an online money scheme because of the promise of a surfboard)?
It's ridiculous., that's what that is....

[laidback]

Telling the truth??? What's the truth?? That he is an idiot (for getting into an online money scheme because of the promise of a surfboard)?
It's ridiculous., that's what that is....

You are hardly an authority on the truth, since you couldn't recognize the truth if it bit ya on the tushy...!
__________________________________________________ _________________________
MonkeyButtBreath and the truth are mutually exclusive...

[scratchycat]

Telling the truth??? What's the truth?? That he is an idiot (for getting into an online money scheme because of the promise of a surfboard)?
It's ridiculous., that's what that is....

Do I care??? No Sweetie, I don't. The fact is JBP and JSStripler are going down the tubes. Did you invest $1,000??? How much did you get back???

[MoneyMakingBrain]

Do I care??? No Sweetie, I don't. The fact is JBP and JSStripler are going down the tubes. Did you invest $1,000??? How much did you get back???

For someone who claims doesn't care you've been sticking your nose into it too long.....How much did i invest???? $10!!! I made a whopping return of $15!!!!! That's the promised 150%, isn't it???? Gebuss, shocks...


The fact is JBP and JSStripler are going down the tubes
Fact??? Where did you get your "fact"??? EagleOne???
You know nothing honey, nothing. You just talk the same rhetorical drivel the others do but without knowing a thing about what you talk about. At least that's my experience on this forum with JBP and the so called anti-scam members. You guys could be right about of other things, but as far as I know, you are complete ignorants when it comes to JBP.

[scratchycat]

For someone who claims doesn't care you've been sticking your nose into it too long.....How much did i invest???? $10!!! I made a whopping return of $15!!!!! That's the promised 150%, isn't it???? Gebuss, shocks...


Fact??? Where did you get your "fact"??? EagleOne???
You know nothing honey, nothing. You just talk the same rhetorical drivel the others do but without knowing a thing about what you talk about. At least that's my experience on this forum with JBP and the so called anti-scam members. You guys could be right about of other things, but as far as I know, you are complete ignorants when it comes to JBP.

Well, hello Mr. Brain!! The FACTS are the 'writing on the wall' as what happens with every other 'investment scheme', the authorities will be showing up one of these days and all will be over for this one. You may have to wait a little longer and many other people will lose their money but it will happen.

So you got your $5.00 and that makes you believe in this program? I think that might be how others get suckered into it and then wind up losing big time. Oh and thanks for telling me how ignorant you think I am - you might want to join the Gang of 5 over in Scamlandpro, they would welcome another supporter!!

[EagleOne]

Opps, Fred is out of money again. This time it only took just a little over 50 days from the actual day he did his last restart because he was out of money.

This means not enough people are putting enough money in, or the major players have pulled their money out so they don't lose when Fred goes bye-bye. Actually it is both, but that's what the restarts are for...but it is not a Ponzi. :RpS_lol:

[MoneyMakingBrain]

Opps, Fred is out of money again. This time it only took just a little over 50 days from the actual day he did his last restart because he was out of money.

This means not enough people are putting enough money in, or the major players have pulled their money out so they don't lose when Fred goes bye-bye. Actually it is both, but that's what the restarts are for...but it is not a Ponzi. :RpS_lol:

This is the first time that i'll have to agree with you on something not sitting well......
I didn't expect a restart less than 2 months the last one. Hmmmm........I wonder if the old man's reasoning has been crippled by the aging process or this was something he waited all his life to do. I guess I may not make my new next big whopping $15 payout. LOL. ....True to be told and all jokes aside, there is no reason why he should do a new restart unless his balance sheet is near the red.

But hang on Lynn....before you give yourself a pat on the back, there is still the possibility (remote as it may seem) that this restart is nothing but the new (annoying) strategy to keep the programme "indefinitely" going and to keep it "sustainable".....so don't blow your celebration whistle just yet....

[EagleOne]

While it is still unclear if Fred received a notice from Payza that as of the 20th JBP can't use Payza, the alternative payment processor egopay is not as rosy as first thought. There are going to be a lot of really unhappy people if they use Egopay. Seems their fees are a lot higher according to information provided by MyBrowserCash as reported at MMG:

URGENT! ALL PAYZA USERS READ!!!!!

Within one week many programs will have to move their funds from Payza to EgoPay.

The Egopay game is going to be very costly. Direct Payza funding cost 3.9% + 0.59$ per transaction, withdrawing cost 2%. Add to those costs 8% of JBP withdrawal fee, and if we assume that most transactions will be at rate of $20.00, This gives us a total cost of $3.57 on each $20.00 transaction in both directions.

This represents a cost of 17.85% in total. A big portion of we can earn in JBP.
I am afraid that this might be deliberatly constructed problem, just to make enormous number of JBP members to go through egopay.com and take almost 1/5 of their investments.

To be fair, I did correct misspelled words and grammar somewhat, but the content has not been changed.

At first blush a lot of people were pleased that Payza had an alternative payment processor, but now it remains to be seen if it is a payment processor that will be used.

This might also be the strategy of Payza to set the fees high enough that people won't use it. Still I am sure those programs who are in need will use them since the fees are born by the members. They could care less what the fees are to the members.

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp1-3.jpg

[EagleOne]

If this catches on with the masses, this will collapse within weeks after the restart:

ha ha yeah. I won't be putting up with this for too much longer. No one should have to " foot race " to the withdraw button, just to get out money that they've invested with the company. I've been with JBP since June 2011. I knew that getting tons and tons of members would ultimately be a downfall for them. Now it is nearly impossible to withdraw, and the MODs won't even answer your questions hardly. Half of them are probably just there for a paycheck anyway. As soon as I can ever get a withdrawal, I'll be moving all my funds elsewhere, until they get it together.

That is unless Fred knows this is going to happen and just doesn't come back after the restart. The next couple of weeks are going to be interesting indeed.

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/blow.jpg

[littleroundman]

Anyone care to estimate how long it will be before MonkeyBrain and Rustaveli come along and say they're all lying, Just Been Paid is running as smoothly as ever and it's all just growing pains ??

[laidback]

If this catches on with the masses, this will collapse within weeks after the restart:

ha ha yeah. I won't be putting up with this for too much longer. No one should have to " foot race " to the withdraw button, just to get out money that they've invested with the company. I've been with JBP since June 2011. I knew that getting tons and tons of members would ultimately be a downfall for them. Now it is nearly impossible to withdraw, and the MODs won't even answer your questions hardly. Half of them are probably just there for a paycheck anyway. As soon as I can ever get a withdrawal, I'll be moving all my funds elsewhere, until they get it together.

That is unless Fred knows this is going to happen and just doesn't come back after the restart. The next couple of weeks are going to be interesting indeed.
Last time around, he announced the restart and there was a stampede to pour money in because of all the hype. The restart was announced the first week of April, but didn't commence until the last week(I think) of May because of the influx of cash. The delay between now and the actual restart should give a clue to how poor the cashflow is. Then you'll really see the shills trying to shout down any voice of reason to try to milk a few more days or weeks out of it.

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/request.jpg

[littleroundman]

Ahh,

don't ya just love the smell of desperation in the morning:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp1-4.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp2-1.jpg

Is Pearson seriously trying to tell us the licensing authorities are going to be fooled into thinking Payza has gone legit, when he openly admits it is opening a subsidiary processor in an attempt to get around the rules ???

Either he's lying, Payza is lying, or, the more likely scenario is, they're both lying.

Anyone who now sends money off to this lot is just begging to be ripped off.

[laidback]

Ahh,

don't ya just love the smell of desperation in the morning:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp1-4.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp2-1.jpg

Is Pearson seriously trying to tell us the licensing authorities are going to be fooled into thinking Payza has gone legit, when he openly admits it is opening a subsidiary processor in an attempt to get around the rules ???

Either he's lying, Payza is lying, or, the more likely scenario is, they're both lying.

Anyone who now sends money off to this lot is just begging to be ripped off.
I think the answer may well be as this member gloats"

masikk08
Today, 02:42 AM
Post #16780


MMG Member


Group: Member
Posts: 184
Joined: 19-September 11
Member No.: 344,770

Ii think the whole idea of payza creating egopay is fantastic. Now they can not say that payza as a payment processor by law is not allowed to do business with this or that program, because as long as we use egopay payza becomes an exchnger and not a payment processor. Very clever. Thank you payza . Also note that Payza now has another level on which fees can be collected...!

[littleroundman]

I wonder if anyone seriously believes the people from the SEC/FBI/Secret Service/IRS/FTC and CFTC are sitting around saying:

"Damn, they outsmarted us again. Now we'll NEVER catch them"

Like, PEOPLE, for goodness' sake.

Forums are PUBLIC, people.

The news of what Just Been Paid and Payza are doing is all over the 'net.

The SEC/FBI/Secret Service/IRS/FTC and CFTC knew about it before the members of MMG and Talkgold knew about it.

[littleroundman]

APPARENTLY THE NATIVES ARE GETTING RESTLESS:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/natives.jpg

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/lady.jpg

[okosh]

How much did i invest???? $10!!! I made a whopping return of $15!!!!!


So this means you sold your soul to the devil for $5.....You're an idiot :loser:

[littleroundman]

So this means you sold your soul to the devil for $5.....You're an idiot :loser:

What's more, he's an idiot who used the word "invest" to describe his involvement.

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp1-5.jpg

[laidback]

So this means you sold your soul to the devil for $5.....You're an idiot :loser:
Since you need a minimum of $20 to withdraw, AND I believe you must be upgraded to withdraw (i.e. buy an upgrade) AND JBP keeps intentionally rotating the time of day a withdrawal can occur, he has basically sold his soul for.......squat...!

[littleroundman]

Looks like even the old hands and regular HYIP ponzi players are slowly starting to wake up:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/SAFE.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4836919&postcount=2749 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4836919&postcount=2749)

[littleroundman]

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[littleroundman]

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[littleroundman]

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[littleroundman]

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[JustTooMuchTime]

[B][COLOR="#0000CD"]

"Exciting Announcement - Our New Legal Team Is Here -

Dedicated to legal compliance with international regulations, JBP is excited to announce the addition of our globally respected legal team. Seasoned in the realm of innovative business models, Jardine Law Offices is our primary source for legal counsel. This new department addition will ensure that Just Been Paid is acquiescent with all laws and regulations in every area that we serve.

Founding attorney, Joseph Jardine, comes to us with a globally rooted reputation for his skill, persistence and case by case savvy. His ability to acquire and win cases that other attorneys have deemed hopeless is the reason legal professionals herald him as a pioneer in his field. His extended expertise and commitment to customer welfare within an ever-evolving industry is what makes Jardine Law Offices and JBP a perfect fit.
A true advocate for his clients, Jardine will never persuade you into an unsatisfactory plea agreement just to resolve a case. Instead, he brings a competitive spirit and sharp perception to each individual. His client’s interest has been and will always remain his foremost concern. As he states in his own words, “I want to make sure that our clients are better off than when they walked into our office for the first time. It's a huge honor to represent a person's liberty and to fight for their freedom. We take our role seriously and work hard to help our clients."

Jardine Law Offices | Toll Free - (866) 550-3505 | 39 Exchange Place Suite 101 - Salt Lake City, UT 84111 - United States of America"


Gee, Jardine Law never did get back tome to confirm or deny their association with these knuckleheads. How about you, Lynn?

[EagleOne]

Gee, Jardine Law never did get back tome to confirm or deny their association with these knuckleheads. How about you, Lynn?

Me neither. It was a simple question: Does your firm represent companies too or only individuals?

Now since they are a criminal law firm, there is no way they could help keep JBP in legal compliance. Since JBP is in cyber-space, kind of hard to be an "in-house" law firm don't you think?

Makes you wonder if Fred is now domiciled in Utah or Southern Idaho since that is the only areas this law firm is licensed to practice.

Maybe my question was too difficult for them to answer?

[littleroundman]

It's a HYIP ponzi,

what makes anyone think ANY of it is true ??

[okosh]

LOL...You guys actually spent the time to contact the law firm???.....And you thought they would reply????....

Hahahaha....too funny....

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/million.jpg

Ignoring the obvious signs of a dying HYIP ponzi, hands up anyone who believes Just Been Paid has anything like a million members.

[ProfHenryHiggins]

LOL...You guys actually spent the time to contact the law firm???.....And you thought they would reply????....

Hahahaha....too funny....


It's Jardine... I wouldn't expect any communication from them unless they're being retained on a case that you are also involved with. Remember, this was the law firm that J.J. Ulrich used to spring Harvey Dockstader from prison. At one time I thought that they were a normal, if a bit clueless legal partnership, but nowadays what comes to mind when Joseph Jardine is mentioned is Hugo Ingermann.

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbpissues.jpg

[JustTooMuchTime]

LOL...You guys actually spent the time to contact the law firm???.....And you thought they would reply????....

Hahahaha....too funny....

Was just a fun and simple thing to do. Didn't really expect them to reply, though.

[MoneyMakingBrain]

Me neither. It was a simple question: Does your firm represent companies too or only individuals?

Now since they are a criminal law firm, there is no way they could help keep JBP in legal compliance. Since JBP is in cyber-space, kind of hard to be an "in-house" law firm don't you think?

Makes you wonder if Fred is now domiciled in Utah or Southern Idaho since that is the only areas this law firm is licensed to practice.

Maybe my question was too difficult for them to answer?

If it's a real "law office", then they don't have time to play silly online games, so sending silly emails, or even leaving phone messages, will probably not be considered serious inquiries and thus be ignored or deleted.
The correct way to address these concerns is via the US postal service. Send them a good old fashion letter, and if you are a non-profit company as you claim to be Edgington, with your letterhead and write all your concerns about the legality of Justbennpaid and ask if indeed they've been retained as a law firm for their legal representation in the US.

Any other method is plain silly, IMO.

[EagleOne]

If it's a real "law office", then they don't have time to play silly online games, so sending silly emails, or even leaving phone messages, will probably not be considered serious inquiries and thus be ignored or deleted.
The correct way to address these concerns is via the US postal service. Send them a good old fashion letter, and if you are a non-profit company as you claim to be Edgington, with your letterhead and write all your concerns about the legality of Justbennpaid and ask if indeed they've been retained as a law firm for their legal representation in the US.

Any other method is plain silly, IMO.

And it is only your opinion. You have no clue what I did or didn't do, or for that matter what anyone else did or didn't do.

But I loved the "If you are a non-profit company as you claim" line. :RpS_lol: :RpS_lol: By the way, have you and Festa kissed and made-up?

[Whip]

Wait a minute.....if they allegedly don't have time to 'play silly games', then how are they going to follow through on the scammers threats that they will come after critics for libel?

moneydowntheloveit - the turd that's eternally swirling in the toilet

[baylee]

JBP is really going to get interesting as more and more members are getting frustrating trying to withdraw. More and more members are opening their eyes to this scam.

[okosh]

By the way, have you and Festa kissed and made-up?

festa is real angry over there....He must be out of booze....

[littleroundman]

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[Fgold]

For someone who claims doesn't care you've been sticking your nose into it too long.....How much did i invest???? $10!!! I made a whopping return of $15!!!!! That's the promised 150%, isn't it???? Gebuss, shocks...


How's that possible?? The minimum ammount to get 1 lottery ticket for the selective draw of cashouts is $20!!!
obviously you didn't invest anything but just played a virtual scam game...

[littleroundman]

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[littleroundman]

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[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/monday.jpg

Just think, all the money in his account plus 50c and this member STILL hasn't got enough to buy a cup of coffee.

[littleroundman]

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[littleroundman]

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[littleroundman]

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[EagleOne]

Well, besides having to chase around the clock to get your money out, now Fred's, the Genius, program is having these issues:

Is anyone else having problems with their triplers being placed? I had around 20 triplers over a week period or so that had still not been placed. It was about 433 triples purchased 412 triplers placed. Then suddenly I had 434 purchased to 203 placed with 184 active triplers in my "positions" area. Has anyone else noticed that the numbers in their members areas are all messed up?

Also, has anyone else noticed that their expired and transferred triplers have disappeared from their tripler members areas? I had 70+ transferred triplers that had still not been placed in my matrixes but showed up clearly in my tripler members area in both the financial and positions section as well as 18 triplers converted from the last restart that had still not been placed. All of this info has disappeared and no new matrixes have been created. Now in my tripler financial section, all it says is I now have 16 expired triplers. Have I missed something here, are they doing something new with the accounts, or is it just my personal account that's glitching up terribly?

Posted by isayyes at MMG this morning.

Hmm, and here I thought Fred, the Genius, was making everything "easier" for the members. Any bets all the "wonderful stuff to come" doesn't happen? Just like there won't be any cease and desist orders or lawsuits for libel.

[EagleOne]

And the hits just keep on coming for Fred, the Genius, and his JBP that is indefinitely sustainable, and I quote from MMG:

QUOTE (oPatricko @ Jul 23 2012, 07:57 AM)
I am sure this will be resolved soon

Patrick

Yeah I hope so Patrick. I feel like I am in limbo right now. $200 withdrawal missing from JBP, $600 withdrawal missing from STP to my bank account, plus $1,400 of withdrawals from STP which have been showing pending on my account status since early July. STP not answering support tickets and their phone just rings busy all day long. I hope they aren't about to go down again. They have been the best option for JBP since Pazya stopped allowing ACH transfers to my bank account and then of course they stopped dealing with JBP all together. I guess I just need to sit tight and hope for the best huh?

Let's see: We have roaming payment times, but are limited to how much you can withdraw, if you can withdraw; E-mail addresses of members hacked; missing Tripler's; missing money; website not accessible at times (not maintenance); a restart in just over 50 days meaning Freddie, the Genius, is out of money already; no outside income to keep this going; need constant new money or restarts will be even closer together; but this is the best program on the net and is not a Ponzi. :RpS_lol: :RpS_lol: :RpS_lol: :RpS_lol:

[littleroundman]

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[baylee]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp-16.jpg

This pretty much says it all!

[littleroundman]

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[littleroundman]

Even the faithful are noticing all's not well in Freddies' World:

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[littleroundman]

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[baylee]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/block.jpg

It won't be long now! Just look at the so called payouts across the forums!

[littleroundman]

It usually takes around 3 or 4 ponzis before people wake up to the fact that in HYIPspeak, "balancing accounts between payment processors" really means "we're running out of money and we're only selectively paying a few members, ESPECIALLY monitors and those shills who will post "I got paid" on the various forums"

This disgruntled member is slowly waking up to the realities of "selective payments"

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/20th.jpg

[littleroundman]

Reality bites another average member:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/24.jpg

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/new-1.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/new2.jpg

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbplatest.jpg

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/bux1.jpg

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/wizzy.jpg

[Whip]

It's amazing they haven't figure out yet that there is no window to actually get their money.

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/golden-1.jpg


it has close to, if not more than two million members from virtually all the countries

and, if you believe THAT, you'll believe anything.

[laidback]

The ever helpful "stealkid"1460

[littleroundman]

Looks like StealKid really has consumed more than his fair share of the KoolAid.

Now he's repeating the "2 million member" mantra.

Huh, 2 million members.........as if.

[laidback]

Looks like StealKid really has consumed more than his fair share of the KoolAid.

Now he's repeating the "2 million member" mantra.

Huh, 2 million members.........as if.
He's a koolaid dispenser not a consumer. His attitude is, "I got mine, if you didn't get yours you're a whiner or stupid or, or, or"...!

[laidback]

Gee, What a Surprise...NOT!!!1461