Just been paid!

[littleroundman]

tock-tock-tock

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/jbp-10.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4761061&postcount=2089 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4761061&postcount=2089)

[scratchycat]

Seems we all know how to "chill" after a long days labour.Good stuff.If more people learned how to relax the world would be a much better place.It certainly is once I've had my G&T! (or three!) ----ahhhh,Im having one now----just medicinal of course. :RpS_wink:


Perhaps I ought to add,its 11.10pm here,in case anyone thinks Im a lush! Toodle-pip!

It is better than prescription drugs, so go for it. Everyone needs to relax and I enjoy my Kool-aid. Of course it is medicinal, it has lots of Vitamin C!!!!

[EagleOne]

I teach people why Justbeenpaid is truly indefinitely sustainable.... you might want to take a few lessons.

Want to take a real test to prove or disprove JBP/JSS can do everything Fred says it will? If so, I'll let you take the Black Box Method of Due Diligence. It was put together by a skilled mathematician, and it makes no difference what the program is, it will provide a true outcome.

Just think, if JBP/JSS passes the test, it will give you plenty of ammunition to tout how wonderful JBP/JSS truly is as it passed the test. But of course if it fails, then you will admit JBP/JSS is nothing more than a Ponzi like we have all been saying. Are you game?

[gotta love it]

Want to take a real test to prove or disprove JBP/JSS can do everything Fred says it will? If so, I'll let you take the Black Box Method of Due Diligence. It was put together by a skilled mathematician, and it makes no difference what the program is, it will provide a true outcome.

Just think, if JBP/JSS passes the test, it will give you plenty of ammunition to tout how wonderful JBP/JSS truly is as it passed the test. But of course if it fails, then you will admit JBP/JSS is nothing more than a Ponzi like we have all been saying. Are you game?
I don't mean to brag, but I am a skilled mathematician myself. After studying the system being used by JBP, I concluded that it is in fact indefinitely sustainable. Being indefinitely sustainable DOES NOT mean it will last forever, as I believe there are no guarantees in life. The member agreement of JBP also states this.... but one thing I will say is this... it is the only online program I will put my money in. All the others are almost guaranteed to fail.

[laidback]

I don't mean to brag, but I am a skilled mathematician myself. After studying the system being used by JBP, I concluded that it is in fact indefinitely sustainable. Being indefinitely sustainable DOES NOT mean it will last forever, as I believe there are no guarantees in life. The member agreement of JBP also states this.... but one thing I will say is this... it is the only online program I will put my money in. All the others are almost guaranteed to fail.
Well, since you are side-stepping the challenge, perhaps you'd like to demonstrate how you arrived at your conclusion...!

[PPBlog]

From Paragraph 27 of the Aug. 5, 2008, complaint for forfeiture in the AdSurfDaily Ponzi case:

"Over the Internet, ASD claims to have a business model with an "innovative rebate structure that will enable [it] to continue indefinitely."

The import of the allegation in the context of JSS/JBP is that it shows that the Feds previously have encountered "programs" that have claimed to be indefinitely sustainable and simply viewed at as wordplay designed to confuse participants and mask the fraud scheme.

JSS/JBP fundamentally has the same commission-payout scheme as ASD while offering double ASD's daily payout. Meantime, ASD's "advertising" module already was in place when the federal raid occurred. The JSS/JBP rotator exists in theory only. JSS/JBP has dangled it for months -- all while insisting it is an "advertising" company. If anything, JSS/JBP is more dubious than ASD.

JSS/JBP is efforting to run a "slow" Ponzi. That's something else the Feds addressed in the ASD case. Also from Paragraph 27 of the Aug. 5, 2008, ASD forfeiture complaint:

"Of course, the slow payout schedule allows ASD time to expand its base of paying members and perpetrate this scheme for a longer period of time."

PPBlog

[littleroundman]

I don't mean to brag, but I am a skilled mathematician myself. After studying the system being used by JBP, I concluded that it is in fact indefinitely sustainable. Being indefinitely sustainable DOES NOT mean it will last forever, as I believe there are no guarantees in life. The member agreement of JBP also states this.... but one thing I will say is this... it is the only online program I will put my money in. All the others are almost guaranteed to fail.

That's excellent news.

It means you'll still be around when this one goes belly up.

The cracks are already starting to show, so it shouldn't be long now.

[EagleOne]

I don't mean to brag, but I am a skilled mathematician myself. After studying the system being used by JBP, I concluded that it is in fact indefinitely sustainable. Being indefinitely sustainable DOES NOT mean it will last forever, as I believe there are no guarantees in life. The member agreement of JBP also states this.... but one thing I will say is this... it is the only online program I will put my money in. All the others are almost guaranteed to fail.

I do hope it is not your day job. First you giveth and then you taketh away. If it is indefinitely sustainable it means just that: FOREVER! It does not mean that it can end one day. You do understand the definition of the word indefintely don't you?

Amazing that no-one who suppots JBP/JSS wants to take the test, but of course I knew you would decline. All Ponzi pimps do, so why should you be the exception to the rule?

But indefinitely sustainable.......:RpS_lol: :RpS_lol: It is but it isn't.

[PPBlog]

This September 2011 document is from the Alabama Securities Commission via the North American Securities Administrators Association:

http://www.asc.state.al.us/News/2011%20News/9-7-11%20NASAA%20Soc%20Network.pdf

Some folks don't know it, but the Alabama Commission took down Andy Bowdoin in the 1990s -- in the pre-AdSurfDaily days. (In other words, in the days before JSS/JBP's Frederick Mann became a pitchman for Bowdoin before the ASD Ponzi scheme was exposed in 2008 after Bowdoin's earlier schemes were exposed in Alabama. The Feds now say Bowdoin used criminal proceeds from the ASD scheme to pay some of the restitution in the Alabama cases.)

The document above is interesting in a number of respects. One thing that leaps off the page is the warning about fraud schemes spreading through social-networking sites. FINRA and the SEC have issued similar warnings. JSS/JBP, like ASD before it, is spreading through social networking.

Of particular note in the document is the information under the subhead of "What are the red flags of an online investment scam?" For example, "returns" of 2 percent a day and 14 percent a week are described as "too good to be true." (Those just happen to be the same "returns" advertised by JSS/JBP.)

The commission also talks about "offshore operations" and scammers using payment processors "to cover up the money trail."

The document is well worth the read.

PPBlog

[littleroundman]

I do hope it is not your day job. First you giveth and then you taketh away.

HeHe, talk about covering all your bases while remaining firmly on the fence.

Gotta Love It must have been a politician in a previous life.

[Nancetta]

I don't mean to brag, but I am a skilled mathematician myself. After studying the system being used by JBP, I concluded that it is in fact indefinitely sustainable. Being indefinitely sustainable DOES NOT mean it will last forever, as I believe there are no guarantees in life. The member agreement of JBP also states this.... but one thing I will say is this... it is the only online program I will put my money in. All the others are almost guaranteed to fail.

I have no 'dog in this fight' however, I decided to do a little DD of my own:

I researched 'indefinitely sustainable':

The only thing that showed up was links to scam/hyip sites using that term...So I decided to break it down into 'indefinitely' and 'sustainable' and this is what I found:

indefinitely - definition of indefinitely by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia. (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/indefinitely)

indefinitely [ɪnˈdɛfɪnɪtlɪ]
adv
without any limit of time or number


Sustainable: sus·tain·a·ble/səˈstānəbəl/

Adjective: able to be maintained at a certain rate or level.

After having done so, all I can say is...hmmm...questionable...

[scratchycat]

This September 2011 document is from the Alabama Securities Commission via the North American Securities Administrators Association:

http://www.asc.state.al.us/News/2011%20News/9-7-11%20NASAA%20Soc%20Network.pdf

Some folks don't know it, but the Alabama Commission took down Andy Bowdoin in the 1990s -- in the pre-AdSurfDaily days. (In other words, in the days before JSS/JBP's Frederick Mann became a pitchman for Bowdoin before the ASD Ponzi scheme was exposed in 2008 after Bowdoin's earlier schemes were exposed in Alabama. The Feds now say Bowdoin used criminal proceeds from the ASD scheme to pay some of the restitution in the Alabama cases.)

The document above is interesting in a number of respects. One thing that leaps off the page is the warning about fraud schemes spreading through social-networking sites. FINRA and the SEC have issued similar warnings. JSS/JBP, like ASD before it, is spreading through social networking.

Of particular note in the document is the information under the subhead of "What are the red flags of an online investment scam?" For example, "returns" of 2 percent a day and 14 percent a week are described as "too good to be true." (Those just happen to be the same "returns" advertised by JSS/JBP.)

The commission also talks about "offshore operations" and scammers using payment processors "to cover up the money trail."

The document is well worth the read.

PPBlog

1373

Thank you and very good advice to offer to Social Networking members (IF they would pay attention!)

[scratchycat]

I don't mean to brag, but I am a skilled mathematician myself. After studying the system being used by JBP, I concluded that it is in fact indefinitely sustainable. Being indefinitely sustainable DOES NOT mean it will last forever, as I believe there are no guarantees in life. The member agreement of JBP also states this.... but one thing I will say is this... it is the only online program I will put my money in. All the others are almost guaranteed to fail.

Then don't unless you back it up with your credientials. Like I mentioned before if YOU want to invest your money in this loser after all the evidence of its being a scam, then by all means, pour your money into it and come back with proof of your earnings. Yes all others are quaranteed to fail and so is JBP/JSS.

[scratchycat]

To our supporters of JBP/JSS, did any of you READ this??


"Of course, the slow payout schedule allows ASD time to expand its base of paying members and perpetrate this scheme for a longer period of time."

quoted from PPBlog

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/jbp-11.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showthread.php?t=283019&page=212 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showthread.php?t=283019&page=212)

[littleroundman]

Want to know why the average member of these things doesn't stand a chance ??

Here we have one of Just Been Paids' leading pimps, Mobilbo, boasting about how he's pulled $22,000 from Just Been Paid while only depositing $4,500.

With no outside income of which to speak, that $17,500 profit made by Mobilbo is coming straight out of the pool.

Playing HYIP ponzis is one thing, throwing your hard earned at a professional ponzi pimp is another.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/JBPMOBILBO.jpg

[scratchycat]

Here is one strong supporter and participant of JBP. Now I give him credit for putting together a great marketing program and knowledge of new technology, he is also a poet and still an acquaintance. I just wanted to see if he actually does make money with JBP.

JustBeenPaid - "You've Just Been Paid!" (http://adv.justbeenpaid.com/?r=poetrymusic)

Website (http://mattiaskroon.com/)

Blog (http://moneymaker4554.blogspot.com/)

He seems to know his stuff about blogging and using it to the fullest for marketing, he has a following in FB. I signed up the group to get help with my own blog about Nature, Art, Gardening, etc. but I do not have the motivation to keep it going.

Food for thought here.

[path2prosperity]

Here is one strong supporter and participant of JBP. Now I give him credit for putting together a great marketing program and knowledge of new technology, he is also a poet and still an acquaintance. I just wanted to see if he actually does make money with JBP.

JustBeenPaid - "You've Just Been Paid!" (http://adv.justbeenpaid.com/?r=poetrymusic)

Website (http://mattiaskroon.com/)

Blog (http://moneymaker4554.blogspot.com/)

He seems to know his stuff about blogging and using it to the fullest for marketing, he has a following in FB. I signed up the group to get help with my own blog about Nature, Art, Gardening, etc. but I do not have the motivation to keep it going.

Food for thought here.

Mattias Kroon was one who was relaunched at Scamland in a blaze of glory. He was announced as a person who had deserted Scamland then returned to the fold. I asked him questions which he could not answer and I decided to have nothing more to do with him.

It is a strange coincidence that this man won Scamland's Person of The Week Award just before the Bowdoin hearing and just in time to use the Scamlander's winner endorsement to entice Adland newbies into one of Freddie Mann's nefarious deals.

Stay clear of anything pimped by Mattias Kroon. He is a Scamland plant. Take a look at GrandBankClub (http://grandbankclub.com/?ref=poetry) which he promotes in his blog and ask if this does not stink of people like Scamland's Maurice Bernier.

[Whip]

I don't understand. Are you saying you are endorsing this scammer?
His blog follows the typical scammer mantra:


I am not one who fail in my marketing but believe me, I have met a lot of ugly, evil people online who don´t want you to succeed but who want to come up with all sorts of obstacles against you.Every time I have won that battle though.

and then has the audacity to use this picture:

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r208/T-Chi/Fraud.jpg

[littleroundman]

tick - tock - tick - tock

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/jbp-12.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4766281&postcount=2133 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4766281&postcount=2133)

[scratchycat]

I don't understand. Are you saying you are endorsing this scammer?
His blog follows the typical scammer mantra:

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r208/T-Chi/Fraud.jpg

and then has the audacity to use this picture:

No, I am not saying that!! His marketing technique could be applied to my own real products (to an extent) so I joined the group to learn from others - not just him. I was not sure he was still promoting JBP/JSS3 until I checked out the blog. I would advise anyone to steer way clear of those programs! No, I do not endorse any of the scam he promotes. As a fellow poet we became 'friends' and then when the bullies went after him in Scamland, I sided against them. I had heard through the scamland gossip that Peter & Jim were also laughing about him and making fun of him. (They were supposed to be helping him to learn marketing.) I think he broke with them but I do not even try to keep up with these things, they could very well be great friends again.

[scratchycat]

Mattias Kroon was one who was relaunched at Scamland in a blaze of glory. He was announced as a person who had deserted Scamland then returned to the fold. I asked him questions which he could not answer and I decided to have nothing more to do with him.

It is a strange coincidence that this man won Scamland's Person of The Week Award just before the Bowdoin hearing and just in time to use the Scamlander's winner endorsement to entice Adland newbies into one of Freddie Mann's nefarious deals.

Stay clear of anything pimped by Mattias Kroon. He is a Scamland plant. Take a look at GrandBankClub (http://grandbankclub.com/?ref=poetry) which he promotes in his blog and ask if this does not stink of people like Scamland's Maurice Bernier.



I did see that he was nominated and knew fairly well he would win but did not check back. He does not seem to be around there much anymore and uses Facebook more. Still that is my opinion and I do not know.

[Hyman Roth]

Darn, Now I have to clean up my computer screen, Please warn us before you tell a funny. You are right about one thing, It is not a MLM, It is a scam.

What? To get the Tippex off?

[thanhvinh]

I just don’t understand it. Maybe JBP have few hundreds of thousands of members out there. I’m wondering anyone of them see that the login and signup pages are INSECURE. I tried to signup, but when I see the website is insecure. I'm shock.
WHO ARE THOSE PEOPLE? WHAT KIND BUSINESS IS THIS?

Stop talking how much you making money from JBP.
Just show me how JBP protect my password and money in the account?
Where is the Customer Support phone and email address?

JBP IS SCAM SCAM! SHOULD BE SHUTDOWN NOW!

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/jbp-18.jpg

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4813755&postcount=2524 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4813755&postcount=2524)

[littleroundman]

I just don’t understand it. Maybe JBP have few hundreds of thousands of members out there. I’m wondering anyone of them see that the login and signup pages are INSECURE. I tried to signup, but when I see the website is insecure. I'm shock.
WHO ARE THOSE PEOPLE? WHAT KIND BUSINESS IS THIS?

Stop talking how much you making money from JBP.
Just show me how JBP protect my password and money in the account?
Where is the Customer Support phone and email address?

JBP IS SCAM SCAM! SHOULD BE SHUTDOWN NOW!

It's hard to believe Just Been Paid has several hundred thousand members.

The most successful HYIP ponzi scam in recent times, AdSurf Daily only claimed to have 80,000 members at its' peak, and, from memory, less than half that amount were shown to be "real" members.

It must be remembered, also, the great majority of "members" are, in fact, HYIP ponzi players who don't care about security.

In answer to your question:
WHAT KIND BUSINESS IS THIS?

Put simply, it's not a "business"

It's a HYIP ponzi fraud.

[Rustaveli]

I just signed up only to post one thing to you people who are in denial, you must be a complete Idiot to still think that JBP is a "scam" when you have no freaking clue how system works,
which pay processors to use, you posted couple pictures of people having trouble getting money out, oh yes pay processors have limit, and depending on how much people are withdrawing
you might have to try right time to transfer your money, now let me guess you gonna cry me a river oh freaking well, for amount of money JBP pays it's members I can live with that,
you don't understand how restart works, you people are a Joke really I am laughing here reading how Frederick Mann is supposedly "does not exist" lol it's pathetic really.

please tell me if JBP is such a "scam" and nobody can confirm anything about them, please explain to me with your little puny words how is it that I enter the conference room
with usually 250+ members of Genuine good citizens of world from all over the world, some new some old, some having problems some don't, some get pay earlier some later, but at
the end Nobody in there is screaming "scam" please explain to me they all must be hired right? lol and we are all stupid because we don't really exist it's Just recorded voices talking to each other right? I guess my 20 cent a day which is now 2 dollars a day which will increase soon with time is also "imaginary" right? I am sorry it's sad and funny at the same time, go on youtube for crying out loud I guess every JBP user who is showing income are scammers, everyones a scammer!!!!!! real pathetic guys.

[littleroundman]

Well, I certainly hope you feel better for having got that off your chest.

I guess we'll see you back here in a couple of months explaining what happened, will we ??

[Rustaveli]

you guys are like Police officer who only deals with drug addicts and drug dealers and gang bangers and terrorists, when he encounters real person he has lost ability to treat people
normally because he is so used to treating people the way he treats people he normally encounters, all the complaints you have highlighted are based on not understanding system
and/or not reading the rules and now you are ignoring many peoples positive claims and only highlight negative which again is due to not knowing rules or not understanding how system works, sure you can highlight negatives, but problem with what you are doing is you have to dig for it, most peoples claim about JBP is POSITIVE, people we encounter are GREAT,these guys don't sound like scammers, I have met many people from all over the world and learned many things from them on JBP, please I invite you to come in here:

Conference, V3.2.8 (http://login.meetcheap.com/conference,jbpdailyconferenceroom)

what kind of scam organization has 24/7 live web conference?

Do you want me to show you withdraw receipt? I mean what does it take to convince you that many people are getting paid?

their word? not good enough right

many peoples words? would that be enough

please go in room and ask around, I guess they are all paid actors? we have world wide map shows where everyone is from I guess that's fake too right?

I am just trying to understand you and I know you have to "protect people from evil scammers" but damn man get a reality check.

[justbeenpaid]

I lost everything. I was tricked by an old friend named Neil Gallagher. He offered me a free surfboard if I lost any money with Just Been Paid. I lost every penny of the $1000 I invested, so I asked Neil for the surfboard and screwed me on his offer. So I contacted the FBI and the State Police against Carl Pearson and Frederick "The Nutcase" Mann. They are watching and investigating as we speak, and I hope that someday soon these guys get busted.

[justbeenpaid]

I lost everything. I was tricked by an old friend named Neil Gallagher. He offered me a free surfboard if I lost any money with Just Been Paid. I lost every penny of the $1000 I invested, so I asked Neil for the surfboard and he screwed me on his offer. So I contacted the FBI and the State Police against Carl Pearson and Frederick "The Nutcase" Mann. They are watching and investigating as we speak, and I hope that someday soon these guys get busted.

[scratchycat]

Well, I certainly hope you feel better for having got that off your chest.

I guess we'll see you back here in a couple of months explaining what happened, will we ??

So am I!! Lots of words but said nothing. Up to $2 a day, wow!! Must be getting rich off this scam.

[scratchycat]

I lost everything. I was tricked by an old friend named Neil Gallagher. He offered me a free surfboard if I lost any money with Just Been Paid. I lost every penny of the $1000 I invested, so I asked Neil for the surfboard and he screwed me on his offer. So I contacted the FBI and the State Police against Carl Pearson and Frederick "The Nutcase" Mann. They are watching and investigating as we speak, and I hope that someday soon these guys get busted.

Welcome JBP!! We like to hear the real truth behind these conmen. You can't even trust your friends these days. Sorry you lost your investment and hope you get it back and they go to jail where they belong.

[Rustaveli]

I lost everything. I was tricked by an old friend named Neil Gallagher. He offered me a free surfboard if I lost any money with Just Been Paid. I lost every penny of the $1000 I invested, so I asked Neil for the surfboard and he screwed me on his offer. So I contacted the FBI and the State Police against Carl Pearson and Frederick "The Nutcase" Mann. They are watching and investigating as we speak, and I hope that someday soon these guys get busted.


lol it's funny please post some proof that you lost your "investment" how exactly did you lose it? where did your money go?

[littleroundman]

HeHeHe,

now THAT'S funny.

Well done Rustaveli.

HeHe,

Freddie Mann promises 2% a DAY interest and you don't question him,,

Yet justbeenpaid says he's lost his $1000 and you need proof.

The HYIPponzi Players League (Inc) WILL be proud of you.

[Whip]

Poor rustytrombone....another one that got in too late. lol

[Rustaveli]

I lost everything. I was tricked by an old friend named Neil Gallagher. He offered me a free surfboard if I lost any money with Just Been Paid. I lost every penny of the $1000 I invested, so I asked Neil for the surfboard and he screwed me on his offer. So I contacted the FBI and the State Police against Carl Pearson and Frederick "The Nutcase" Mann. They are watching and investigating as we speak, and I hope that someday soon these guys get busted.


Just the fact that you call Frederick a "nut case" makes you look not credible, you claim that you "lost your investment" yet you did not explain exactly HOW??


let me guess you went on to fund your account with $1000.00 and it did not show up so now you are here crying about getting scammed, position purchase is
like 50 Hours behind right now, give time and it will show up, other wise you have not lost anything and simply Panicking, please describe to us HOW did you lose your money because I am totally not convinced, not when right at the same time I am talking to 100's of people who have not lost anything, but only make money.
so if I have to guess you are new and in panic mode because your placements are not showing up yet.


Conference, V3.2.8 (http://login.meetcheap.com/conference,jbpdailyconferenceroom)

please come in to this live web conference and explain it to us how exactly you lost your money I have to hear this lol.


it's funny how you guys are making fun of my $2.00 a day I never said I was getting rich of it now did I? but hey whatever floats your boat,
you keep calling it a scam, yet you have no balls to come in the live web and tell us how exactly it's a scam.

[Rustaveli]

I lost everything. I was tricked by an old friend named Neil Gallagher. He offered me a free surfboard if I lost any money with Just Been Paid. I lost every penny of the $1000 I invested, so I asked Neil for the surfboard and he screwed me on his offer. So I contacted the FBI and the State Police against Carl Pearson and Frederick "The Nutcase" Mann. They are watching and investigating as we speak, and I hope that someday soon these guys get busted.


you have not lost anything, and I am not asking for no proof of paper or anything what i am asking is tell us HOW DID YOU LOSE THE MONEY?

where did it go? if I had to guess you are new and you placed your positions and they are not showing up yet so you are panicking,
please come in to live web and tell us how you lost your money we are all here waiting.

[Rustaveli]

HeHeHe,

now THAT'S funny.

Well done Rustaveli.




HeHe,

Freddie Mann promises 2% a DAY interest and you don't question him,,

Yet justbeenpaid says he's lost his $1000 and you need proof.

The HYIPponzi Players League (Inc) WILL be proud of you.




ell hey he is saying he lost money, but he is not describing HOW?

lost money as money is not showing up?

Lost money as can not withdraw?

lost money as not getting paid promised interest?

lost money as got hacked? totally possible not fault of JBP if your PC is infected with virus


how exactly was the money lost? please elaborate.

[Rustaveli]

I lost everything. I was tricked by an old friend named Neil Gallagher. He offered me a free surfboard if I lost any money with Just Been Paid. I lost every penny of the $1000 I invested, so I asked Neil for the surfboard and he screwed me on his offer. So I contacted the FBI and the State Police against Carl Pearson and Frederick "The Nutcase" Mann. They are watching and investigating as we speak, and I hope that someday soon these guys get busted.


please tell us HOW did you lose your money?


did your placement not show up?

were not able to withdraw your money/earnings?

did you get hacked and your money was stolen?


please elaborate how exactly did you lose your $1000.00 because so far I am not convinced at all,
if I had to guess you put your money in and placed positions and they are not showing up so now you are panicking
not realizing that it takes time for them to show up, so again I am trying to figure out how did you lose your money?

[littleroundman]

because so far I am not convinced at all

Err, sorry mate,

but I think "convincing Rustaveli" is the last thing on his mind.

Geez, self important much there, young Rusta ???

How about you leave him alone and go into your "live web" and see if you can get Freddie to "convince" you he can offer 2% per day, hey ??

[Rustaveli]

Err, sorry mate,

but I think "convincing Rustaveli" is the last thing on his mind.

Geez, self important much there, young Rusta ???

How about you leave him alone and go into your "live web" and see if you can get Freddie to "convince" you he can offer 2% per day, hey ??


I am just saying, it's easy to say something, but if you can't elaborate and explain it then yeah I am not convinced at all,
so far I have lot more people who make money with this than 1 out of 100 that is complaining that he lost money with no elaboration,
well you talk a good talk but do you have a live web voice conference room?

what's the harm you don't have to have an account, he has an account, does he not owe it to himself if he lost money to come in and talk to people and mods?
if I lost 1000 Dollars I would be all over it, again not very convincing sorry :)

[MoneyMakingBrain]

Err, sorry mate,

but I think "convincing Rustaveli" is the last thing on his mind.

Geez, self important much there, young Rusta ???

How about you leave him alone and go into your "live web" and see if you can get Freddie to "convince" you he can offer 2% per day, hey ??

Here we go again....treating users who disagree on this forum like ignorant children and as if they need to be convinced of the "imminent" fall of JBP because you care so much about them....has it ever occurred that some people doesn't give a crap about what you believe in??? And when you realize they don't,. Isn't that the main reason you tell them to go somewhere else? What kind of "forum" does this???

If the JBP online programme is a scam, it should be over by now and not making new expansions....

[littleroundman]

AWWWW, isn't that nice.

Our favourite friend, MonkeyBrain has once again graced the forum with his presence and pearls of wisdom.

It's always refreshing to see his HIS interpretation of things.

I gotta admit, MonkeyBrainlogic in action is a wonder to behold.

This one's a goodie:


If the JBP online programme is a scam, it should be over by now and not making new expansions....

So, scams have a finite lifetime in MonkeyBrainWorld, how interesting.

Maybe in MonkeyBrainWorld they come with an accompanying message like:

"Welcome Mr MonkeyBrain, this scam will self destruct in 5-4-3-2-1 months"

[littleroundman]

Ya gotta give it to Freddie,

He's done an awesome job of tricking people into believing his B/S story about balancing the payment processors being the reason they can't withdraw their money.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp-14.jpg

I don't know what happens in other places, but here, the only reason a client can't withdraw from a bank is there's no money in the account.

I almost feel sorry for the payment processors who are getting the blame for the fact there's not enough new money coming in to the Just Been Paid accounts to cover withdrawals.

(and, I did say ALMOST feel sorry for the payment processors)

[Whip]

And, of course, nothing on how his criminal boyfriend can legally guarantee 2%, or even 1% per day.

[littleroundman]

Wash your mouth out with soap, Whip.

The Gods don't have to concern themselves with such minor technicalities.

His Royal Monkeyness has way more important things to consider.

It's not easy looking down the internet and declaring anyone who claims to have lost money is wrong.

[littleroundman]

What kind of "forum" does this???

Umm, this one ?

[Rustaveli]

reason he could not withdraw money is because they have a limit, if too many members withdraw money they freeze withdrawing so you have to wait, I would say
that's only bad thing about JBP is that pay processors they use are not the best, you have to know when withdrawing is on and if you are too late you are out of luck, but with that said
people are getting paid world wide with this system even if withdrawing money is harder and not always on point it still does not mean that it's a scam, please do your research better.

[Rustaveli]

so you highlight 1 or 2 withdrawing problems out of 100's that can withdraw with no problem right? I could flood this forum with positive feedback about how people are withdrawing and living off interest using JBP, so again you fail, you are in denial..I mean after all how would you feel if you were honest with yourself and admitted that yes people make money on JBP
you just assume it's a scam because "it's too good to be true" and for some other reasons and totally dismiss common sense and math and highlight few negatives which again are due to
not paying attention how system works and know when to withdraw and know how long it takes for things to process.


and not to look down on your mission because believe it or not we need people like here who expose scams and God knows there are many out there, but this is not one of them
at least not now, I can not guarantee that JBP won't just shut down with peoples money in it who knows? but for those who are in profit already and making money off JBP how can it be a scam? even if it shuts down on them they have not lost anything only made money so again you are up against it and can not win this battle against JBP because there are
too many members out there making money.

[littleroundman]

you are up against it and can not win this battle against JBP because there are too many members out there making money.

There is no "it" for us to be up against.

There is no "battle"

http://www.realscam.com/images/misc/realscam-logo1.gif

See that ???

"Is it or isn't it? YOU decide"

Obviously, YOU have decided.

It simply doesn't matter whether anyone listens to our advice or not.

The impossibility of 1% or 2% per day is what will make what happens happen.

[okosh]

lol it's funny please post some proof that you lost your "investment" how exactly did you lose it? where did your money go?

To the pocket of a member who joined b4 him??...

[littleroundman]

Here we go again.

The ticks are getting closer.

ticktickticktick:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Scams/jbp1-2.jpg

[MoneyMakingBrain]

AWWWW, isn't that nice.

Our favourite friend, MonkeyBrain has once again graced the forum with his presence and pearls of wisdom.

Actually, I was expecting to see it all deleted as soon as you got out of bed. I'm glad you've seen the light...don't worry, there won't be talk of IP's or anything off topic from me in this thread (I promise).


It's always refreshing to see his HIS interpretation of things.

I gotta admit, MonkeyBrainlogic in action is a wonder to behold.

Nothing to behold here, I am just a bona fide armchair lawyer who has been engaging in JBP's unsolicited defense within the parameters of the US legal code. Mainly that law enforcement can't bring someone to custody based on speculation and internet hearsay. My stand has been clear: you need hard proof that a crime has been committed or you (LE) have to focus your attention on "real" acts of crime.

For all the best intentions you may have on this forum, you and your lackeys maybe hurting a program that also had only the best intentions for its members, and if this programme is able to deliver what it promised, all the unsubstantiated warnings and nonfactual claims of scam posted here will only demonstrate to the authorities that forums like this are the ones that should be shut down because they prove to be as misleading as the online money programs they purport to be giving free "advice" against.

Really "LRM", you're walking on a fine line between libel-defamation and responsible discussion. That begs the question; isn't that the main reason why you and 99% of the members hide your real names behind a computer??? There is no question in my mind that had I used my real name to make this counter-argument in favor of JBP, my real name and identity would have been tarnished forever on the web and I would have been titled a "scammer", a "shill", a promoter, you name it. Meantime, all of you would have been cowardly hiding behind your computers. As a matter of fact, and in all fairness, the most courageous members appear to be Lynn Edgington and Patrick Hernan, and this I say regardless of my personal experience with them. At least they speak to the public what they believe in, and in the process, put their real names on the line.


This one's a goodie:

So, scams have a finite lifetime in MonkeyBrainWorld, how interesting.

Is that how you interpret what I said??? Why can it mean just what it says??? IF this was a scam, people wouldn't continue to work on the JBP site, let alone install a MySQL script. Let me ask you, LRM, do you know what MYSQL is used for???


Maybe in MonkeyBrainWorld they come with an accompanying message like:

"Welcome Mr MonkeyBrain, this scam will self destruct in 5-4-3-2-1 months"


Perhaps you should read your own posts in my "official thread" (say...like back in March?) as a reminder of your own old drivel....

[littleroundman]

That's the main problem with todays' generation.

They have no sense of history and, what's worse, think they know it all based on what they see on YouTube and TV.

If MonkeyBrain had either the sense or the inclination to do the slightest bit of research, he would quickly find there's no need for anyone to answer his ridiculous questions or challenge his interpretation of events.

It's all been done before, most of it in the immediate past, as well.

Unlike TV, in the real world, legal precedent trumps armchair lawyers every time.

[scratchycat]

reason he could not withdraw money is because they have a limit, if too many members withdraw money they freeze withdrawing so you have to wait, I would say
that's only bad thing about JBP is that pay processors they use are not the best, you have to know when withdrawing is on and if you are too late you are out of luck, but with that said
people are getting paid world wide with this system even if withdrawing money is harder and not always on point it still does not mean that it's a scam, please do your research better.

Sooooo, I give Mr. Freddie $1,000 (supposedly earning 2% per day). Now I want to withdrawn (my money) and I have to wait in line for a payment processor to give me (my money!!). Can anyone even imagine how long it would take to even recover the $1,000 much less make anything off this deal. People playing this scam to make Freddie richer are bound to get burned in the longrun. No, I think I had rather bet on horses or something.

[Earl Lee Tobed]

Sooooo, I give Mr. Freddie $1,000 (supposedly earning 2% per day). Now I want to withdrawn (my money) and I have to wait in line for a payment processor to give me (my money!!). Can anyone even imagine how long it would take to even recover the $1,000 much less make anything off this deal. People playing this scam to make Freddie richer are bound to get burned in the longrun. No, I think I had rather bet on horses or something.


Alternatively Monkey Brain could invest it for you.Hes been itching to start his own Freddie ScamMann type ponzi scheme for ages.
Who knows he might up the ante to 3% daily

Ahhh--- its good to be back from my travels. I see MMB s been really busy.

[scratchycat]

Nothing to behold here, I am just a bona fide armchair lawyer who has been engaging in JBP's unsolicited defense within the parameters of the US legal code. Mainly that law enforcement can't bring someone to custody based on speculation and internet hearsay. My stand has been clear: you need hard proof that a crime has been committed or you (LE) have to focus your attention on "real" acts of crime.

For all the best intentions you may have on this forum, you and your lackeys maybe hurting a program that also had only the best intentions for its members, and if this programme is able to deliver what it promised, all the unsubstantiated warnings and nonfactual claims of scam posted here will only demonstrate to the authorities that forums like this are the ones that should be shut down because they prove to be as misleading as the online money programs they purport to be giving free "advice" against.

Really "LRM", you're walking on a fine line between libel-defamation and responsible discussion. That begs the question; isn't that the main reason why you and 99% of the members hide your real names behind a computer??? There is no question in my mind that had I used my real name to make this counter-argument in favor of JBP, my real name and identity would have been tarnished forever on the web and I would have been titled a "scammer", a "shill", a promoter, you name it. Meantime, all of you would have been cowardly hiding behind your computers. As a matter of fact, and in all fairness, the most courageous members appear to be Lynn Edgington and Patrick Hernan, and this I say regardless of my personal experience with them. At least they speak to the public what they believe in, and in the process, put their real names on the line.

I am not hiding and many others who are here have legitimate businesses and websites. I chose my avatar so that I could fight back after being attacked constantly by cyberbullying in a social network. I believe most everyone knows who I am and it really makes little difference. Your refer to libel-defamation. You want to read some active ones against me then visit the links posted here:
Cyberbullying (http://www.sagariexpressions.com/Discussions/continuedbullying.html)
in the latest comments at bottom. There have been others, some have been deleted, some I deleted - but I expose the trash on Scamlandpro because of what they have done to me. They really can't harm me anymore but it is still allowed and against their TOC. Now, since you are an armchair lawyer, you want to help me sue them for libel-defamation??

This website attracts attention to dubious ways of internet scammers, fraudsters, ponzi players and many other crimes. Members here have their own way of exposure and some of them are really professional and know what they are doing. It helps to get a little 'crazy' and make jokes about some things. As I see you are pretty good at yourself.
:RpS_smile:

Anyway, I am happy we are finished with the IP stuff. You know all the members here are not one and the same as you have claimed. I am fairly new at this and feel like a juvenile up against the experienced group here. Don't make light of this website - I have witnessed action being taken as a result of what these members are doing. (Good action, I might add.) Maybe you would like to join with us in the fight against crime and stop protecting top players like "Frederick Mann". You would be good at it. Thank you for keeping your comments here 'clean' as I can only tolerate a little profanity and I am not an admin so I can't remove it.

[scratchycat]

Alternatively Monkey Brain could invest it for you.Hes been itching to start his own Freddie ScamMann type ponzi scheme for ages.
Who knows he might up the ante to 3% daily

Ahhh--- its good to be back from my travels. I see MMB s been really busy.

Well Hello and Welcome Back Mr. Earl Lee!! Were you off on a 'round the world trip? No, I will just hang on to my cash, got to buy a house!

[littleroundman]

Really "LRM", you're walking on a fine line between libel-defamation and responsible discussion.

Actually, I'm not.

What I AM doing, and, quite deliberately too, is trying to find a HYIP owner/shill/pimp/supporter who really believes in his/her own nonsense enough to actually follow through with the hollow threats and empty rhetoric.

It's called "having the courage of your convictions" and "never, ever, EVER give in to bullying"

Freddie Mann sue ????

Not in a month of Sundays.

But, I can keep on hoping, can't I ???

[justbeenpaid]

The proof is that they took my $1000 dollars, they did a restart, and poof like magic my money was gone and was now called matrix, then Carl shut my access down when I complained that my account showed a value of $8 dollars and that I had to either pay or get others to pay to complete my matrix in order for the matrix to mature. It's an illegal ponzi scheme created by a mentally ill person. What more proof do you need.

[Earl Lee Tobed]

Well Hello and Welcome Back Mr. Earl Lee!! Were you off on a 'round the world trip? No, I will just hang on to my cash, got to buy a house!

Thanks Scratchy.

No world trip Im afraid,just a few weeks back at the old homestead in Spain.Back to work now till October in the UK.:RpS_wink:

[scratchycat]

Actually, I'm not.

What I AM doing, and, quite deliberately too, is trying to find a HYIP owner/shill/pimp/supporter who really believes in his/her own nonsense enough to actually follow through with the hollow threats and empty rhetoric.

It's called "having the courage of your convictions" and "never, ever, EVER give in to bullying"

Freddie Mann sue ????

Not in a month of Sundays.

But, I can keep on hoping, can't I ??? (my highlighting)

LRM, thank you!! Everyone always says turn the other cheek, walk away, ignore, ignore - IT DOES NOT WORK!! I am with you - fight back!!

No, Freddie won't be suing anyone, going to be the other way around.

[littleroundman]

Were you off on a 'round the world trip?

Wouldn't that question be better addressed to MonkeyBrain ??

With a click of his mouse, he can tell you where Earl has been, where he is now and what operating system he is using.

[scratchycat]

The proof is that they took my $1000 dollars, they did a restart, and poof like magic my money was gone and was now called matrix, then Carl shut my access down when I complained that my account showed a value of $8 dollars and that I had to either pay or get others to pay to complete my matrix in order for the matrix to mature. It's an illegal ponzi scheme created by a mentally ill person. What more proof do you need.

And that is the way of these schemes. They just want your money and if a few people make a little they sound off how happy they are - for what?? getting back some of their own money!!?? I am sure there are some who have been playing the game long enough to learn the playing field and just happen to make money off the newbies. That is why they have so many restarts, so they don't have to pay up. They just close down, everyone loses, and they start another one.

[scratchycat]

Thanks Scratchy.

No world trip Im afraid,just a few weeks back at the old homestead in Spain.Back to work now till October in the UK.:RpS_wink:

That sounds like more fun than a world trip!!

[Whip]

That's the main problem with todays' generation.

They have no sense of history and, what's worse, think they know it all based on what they see on YouTube and TV.

If MonkeyBrain had either the sense or the inclination to do the slightest bit of research, he would quickly find there's no need for anyone to answer his ridiculous questions or challenge his interpretation of events.

It's all been done before, most of it in the immediate past, as well.

Unlike TV, in the real world, legal precedent trumps armchair lawyers every time.

So, before he was claiming to be LE...now he's claiming to be a lawyer?

[littleroundman]

So, before he said he was LE...now he's claiming to be a lawyer?

He actually said "armchair lawyer"

I presume that means if his armchair gets sued, he'll represent it in court.

[Whip]

He actually said "armchair lawyer"

I presume that means if his armchair gets sued, he'll represent it in court.

And yet still no proof how the criminal can guarantee 1 - 2% a day without it being illegal as the criminal himself admitted to. That's the only 'defense' needed. You don't even have to make believe you're a lawyer to try and scare people to do that.

[littleroundman]

We should all congratulate ourselves on successfully keeping him here long enough so he'll be around when it goes belly up.

Which, by the way things are panning out, shouldn't be too long now.

[MoneyMakingBrain]

The proof is that they took my $1000 dollars, they did a restart, and poof like magic my money was gone and was now called matrix, then Carl shut my access down when I complained that my account showed a value of $8 dollars and that I had to either pay or get others to pay to complete my matrix in order for the matrix to mature. It's an illegal ponzi scheme created by a mentally ill person. What more proof do you need.

If your cash earnings are now $8 (per day??) then it means that out of your 100 initial positions, 60 of your triplers were converted to JSS positions and are most likely now on hold (up to 2 months, I heard). You haven't lost anything and according to you, you appear to be the ONLY guy I've heard of whose majority of triplers (60%) have been converted after the restart.....sorry, but i smell a rat here and I'm not buying it.

Maybe "JustBeenPaid" wants to tell us when he joined in and on what date he called Fred's or Carl's conference line for help (assuming he was trying to get help, that is)????
If not, a screenshot of that support ticket would be a start....

[MoneyMakingBrain]

Wouldn't that question be better addressed to MonkeyBrain ??

With a click of his mouse, he can tell you where Earl has been, where he is now and what operating system he is using.

You're testing me aren't you???

[MoneyMakingBrain]

Freddie Mann sue ????

Not in a month of Sundays.

But, I can keep on hoping, can't I ???

And may I ask who would this be???

[Whip]

We should all congratulate ourselves on successfully keeping him here long enough so he'll be around when it goes belly up.

Which, by the way things are panning out, shouldn't be too long now.

Meh. he's still only as useful as wet toilet paper at this point.

[okosh]

He actually said "armchair lawyer"

I presume that means if his armchair gets sued, he'll represent it in court.

I thought it means that monkey brain sits on his mothers couch all day watching judge Judy.....

[Xander756]

Hey all, came across this forum during my research and wanted to post my review in this thread. I wrote an in-depth review of Just Been Paid and the JSS-Tripler on my website. I’d post the full text here but it is over one thousand words so a link would be more suitable. Please check it out if you are on the fence about this program – Why Just Been Paid and JSS-Tripler are scams (http://www.penguinrungames.com/jbpreview.php)

[EagleOne]

Hey all, came across this forum during my research and wanted to post my review in this thread. I wrote an in-depth review of Just Been Paid and the JSS-Tripler on my website. I’d post the full text here but it is over one thousand words so a link would be more suitable. Please check it out if you are on the fence about this program – Why Just Been Paid and JSS-Tripler are scams (http://www.penguinrungames.com/jbpreview.php)

Welcome to RS and thanks for joining us in exposing JBP/JSS-Tripler for the Ponzi that it is. You will note that the regular posters here have said this is a Ponzi when it launched.

But it is always good to have other sites exposing it for what it is. Hope your website gets a lot of hits so those viewing can be warned and not join.

[Xander756]

First off, I'm not even a native English speaker and I can tell that you didn't go to college:



That is a funny thing to say. Actually I did go to college (a pretty expensive private university. I'm still paying off the loans! :crying_2:) and have a Bachelor's Degree in Criminology. I also make my living as a full-time writer, sports journalist, and have published a book.

[littleroundman]

Never fear, Xander, you're not going nutso.

I've moved MonkeyBrains' post to his own thread here: http://www.realscam.com/f22/official-moneymakingbrain-makes-fool-himself-thread-1113/index95.html

[richardfedes]

I think Just Been Paid is not perfect and does have some glitches like restarts,slow jss matix cycling with increasing memberships of now upto 2 million participating in triplers and matrices.But,Just Been Paid does pay & its sustainable for long term & huge returns of income potential.The future of Justbeenpaid seem good & i would like to stick with justbeenpaid as my primary business for my income.JustBeenPaid has also listed its to-do-list for its development to add more income streams for members.

Upcoming JustBeenPaid future projects

1) Full activation of the JSS Traffic Exchange

2) JBP Living

3) Platinum Placements for JSS

4) Fill Now Feature for JSS

5) Viral Power List

6) Upgrade to Level 2 and 3 in JBP

7) New look and feel for JustBeenPaid

8) Automatic Buying of JSS-Tripler Positions

9) Gift cards for JustBeenPaid

10) Autoresponder System for New Member Orientation

11) and much, much more

You are at the right place, at JustBeenPaid!

I am a member of Just Been Paid since July,2011 and earn a descent income from Just Been Paid though had to build my triplers after every restart.I have developed a strategy to cope with future restarts ..hence restarts won't be problem for me.

[scratchycat]

richardfedes, you must be one of very few to still be getting paid. Did you lose some money yesterday when Fred did the remake??

http://www.realscam.com/f8/justbeenpaid-810/index21.html

[Whip]

upto 2 million participating in triplers and matrices

:RpS_laugh:

and thanks for the heads up on the future scams they'll be trying to pull.

[scratchycat]

For those looking at this thread, please go to this thread for further comments as it is still ongoing!

http://www.realscam.com/f8/justbeenpaid-profitclicking-810/

Of course, you can always comment here, this one just got split off into several directions. Seems to have had a monkey attack! :RpS_smile: