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WishfulThinking
02-22-2011, 07:19 PM
A 2 x 2 cycler founded by Robert Corriveau and Parvis Parvizi and promoted by what look to be the usual cast of ponzi promoters including manolo (Strosdegoz ) and Carl Haavaldsen on MMG, talkgold, AdlandPro etc.

Does anyone here have any concrete information that would help prospective victims? It looks totally illegal and even worse than some of the others

Fortune 2x2 Reviewed - A Closer Look Reveals It May Not Be What You Think (http://hubpages.com/hub/Fortune-2x2-Reviewed-A-Closer-Look-Reveals-It-May-Not-Be-What-You-Think)

Not being a mathematician, I wasnt sure how to explain this one.

A Life Aloft
02-22-2011, 09:01 PM
Funny, there was a program called EZ 2x2 (another complicated matrix scheme) that suddenly just vanished. They never even notified the members, the site just became unaccessable. lol And it had been aorund for awhile. Then it came back on and would be on again, off again.

It had as red flags:

Member joins and pays EZ2x2 via AlertPay.
Payment not confirmed in the back office.
AlertPay says the money changed hands.
Member attempted to login and could not.
EZ2x2 message flashed user not in system.
Person attempts to start new membership.
EZ2x2 says cannot duplicate a record already in the system.
EZ2x2 has no contact information. Scammer practice.
Trouble tickets not answered. Bad business.
Site would not load for over a week which happened several times. Really unreliable.

This is very difficult with all the cycle business and getting your referrals (which are not easy to get to begin with) to get so many referrals in such and time frame to keep building the matrix. You have to recruit your ass off and this is one of the main factors that keeps anyone from really "succeeding". People still have to recruit heavily to cycle out to be able to hit the residual matrix pay, so in the end it will level out, like ALL cycling programs do. Flash in the pan. These programs never last long, they lose their momentum quickly.

This crap is so complicated and it's built that way purposely. Let's see if I get this b.s.....There are 4 phases to this thing. You have to cycle 2 times in Fortune 2×2 before you go to the next level. Coming from the 1×2 Power Start You are now placed in the 1×2 Power Roll at a value of $35. Once the two members have followed you into your 1×2 Power Roll you will then cycle out and receive a cycle bonus of $5 and then be placed into the 2×2 Follow Me following your sponsor.

The Next step is the 2X2. Now that you are in the 2×2 where you will be following your sponsor at a value of $59.95. Once you have filled your 2×2 matrix from personally sponsored members or from spill over you will receive a cycle bonus of $100, a new 2×2 matrix AND TWO MONTHS of auto-ship in the 2×10 power matrix! Yikes! I cringe when I see the words auto-ship.

So every time you cycle through the 2X2 you get 2 months worth of residuals from the 2X10 Power Matrix.

Finally, you get to the 2X10 Power Matrix (residual income), supposedly.
Everyone receives a position in the 2×10 when they join. It will not activate until you have cycled out of your 2×2. This is so you will NEVER lose your personally sponsored member (again supposedly) and since it will not activate until you have cycled out of your 2×2 you will not be charged an auto-ship as well.

Once you have cycled out of your 2×2 that is when your position in the 2×10 Power Matrix is activated. Why then, you might ask. Because now for cycling out of the 2×2 you received 2 months auto-ship. Every time you cycle out of your 2×2 that will give you 2 months auto-ship. EVERY TIME.

Wasn't LGN Prosperity much like this? It's all a big money shuffling scheme with the founders keeping the majory of the money as far as I can tell.

I love the "early bird sign up specials" too. lol I also like how they tout that everyone will be successful. Hmmmm....okey dokey. The truth is that the vast majority of people are not able to build huge (and you need huge for this) downlines and sustain those downlines and therefore, they never generate any income in programs such as these. How many relatives, friends can you con, beg and plead to to join this thing, let alone strangers?

Oh, and they are also using AlertPay. These scams never use PayPal because they are against PayPal's TOS. That alone, should tell you something. If you look at some of the videos on line, it's confusing as hell. They had their pre launch (before the Early Bird Specials lol) back in November, I believe. And, as a "prize", you have the chance to win some worthless e-books.

They had this announcement on December 18th from CEO Robert Corriveau : "You all know by now that there was an issue with the coding of 1X2 matrices. It was discovered right after we launched.
This is being addressed right now and corrected by the systems team.
Robert will be talking about what happened and how we will correct it."

That's impressive. Already having issues right out of the gate. Perhaps he needs to read some of his free E-books to help him with his accounting/puter system issues.

Said it before and I'll say it again, Pyramids belong in Egypt.

To be fair, I did see that one moron actually posted the first check he got online from this scam. It was for get this......are you ready.....$16.00! Swear. $16.00. lmao I had to look twice while blowing my nose through my watery eyes to make sure I read the numbers correctly.

Also, in December and January, a bunch of members were complaining about serious lack of support and not addressing member's many issues, when they tried to contact the office. (most likely someone's garage with a phone). So on January 23rd they put out this little announcement:

"We are happy to announce that we now have a NEW and FANTASTIC system for support tickets.

When you click on SUPPORT in your back office, you will now see an avatar that will give you instructions on how to send a ticket.
When a support ticket is sent, you will immediately receive an email with the ticket number. This ticket number will be used until the support issue is resolved, so please save the e-mail with your ticket number.
Support tickets are generally answered with 24 hours, but please allow 48 hours, especially on the weekends. When sending any support issues, please include all relevant information including usernames."

Shouldn't they have worked out their support and computer issues before they launched? Just asking.

Anyways, that's my one cents worth.....I would have put in two cents worth, but I am sick with a cold. (again!)

path2prosperity
02-23-2011, 01:53 AM
Funny, there was a program called EZ 2x2 (another complicated matrix scheme) that suddenly just vanished. They never even notified the members, the site just became unaccessable. lol And it had been aorund for awhile. Then it came back on and would be on again, off again.

Wasn't LGN Prosperity much like this? It's all a big money shuffling scheme with the founders keeping the majory of the money as far as I can tell.



EZ2x2 is very much alive. All variations of EZscams have been promoted by Kathleen VanBenekam at Adlandpro for years. The latest name is ezquickcash, and here is Kathleen's link Ez-Biz Quick Cash (http://www.ez-bizquickcash.com/?id=177) Kathleen. Scroll to the bottom of Kathleen's link and see that it is powered by freeworld scripts YourFreeWorld.com Scripts - Taking Care of Business (http://www.yourfreeworld.com/script/?id=361)

Wasn't LGN Prosperity much like this? It's all a big money shuffling scheme with the founders keeping the majority of the money as far as I can tell.

LGN Prosperity has been promoted by Jill Bachman at Adlandpro for years. Jill has the audacity to call LGN "The Humanitarian Bank" Here is the link to The Humanitarian Bank from Bachman's signature files. http://starhaven.lgnprosperity.com/

Fortune2x2 is being promoted by a British man at Adlandpro, who may be unaware that he will be breaking the law by advertising sites which do not conform to ASA standards by March 1st. Hopefully Roger McDavitt will see sense and remove the link to his Fortune2x2 web site by that date. If he does not comply, he can be prosecuted. Please take note Roger and remove the site.

51-Guest Gallery | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2366019/GuestGallery/51.aspx)

okosh
02-23-2011, 02:36 AM
A 2 x 2 cycler founded by Robert Corriveau and Parvis Parvizi and promoted by what look to be the usual cast of ponzi promoters including manolo (Strosdegoz ) and Carl Haavaldsen on MMG, talkgold, AdlandPro etc.


What more information could anyone need to tell them that this is a scam?? :RpS_unsure:

path2prosperity
02-24-2011, 01:11 PM
What more information could anyone need to tell them that this is a scam?? :RpS_unsure:

This should be enough to tell people it is a scam but Roger Macdivitt from Adlandpro
(who has been made aware of this thread) has decided that it is not sufficient evidence and that the Fortune2x2 matrix provided for Adlanders by "our friend Carl" is a legitimate opportunity to be advertised in the UK. This could be a very interesting test case.

Web site owners in UK have until March 1st to make sure that all their ads conform to British Advertising Authority standards. I do not think that Fortune2x2 does and I will report Roger Macdivitt, if he continues to advertise this "opportunity" after March 1st. Fortune2x2 (http://www.fortune2x2.com/?referrer=romacmail)

Hopefully Roger will consult British Advertising Authority ASA - Advertising Standards Authority (http://www.asa.org.uk/) to see if they consider it legitimate and take the web site down before I have to report the matter. If he does not we will see if complaints about Fortune2x2 are upheld by The British Advertising Standards Authority.

path2prosperity
03-12-2011, 09:58 AM
Fortune2x2 dies and gets reborn with a new domain.

Copied from Fortune2x2 web site.


To all Fortune2x2 Members GREAT NEWS!!


As you can see the web site is temporarily down! The reason for this is because we are migrating our new system and will be unvieling a brand new back office for members, new corporate site, and a whole lot of other new features for you to capitalize on. That's right all new and improved just for our membership as we felt our current systems were not up to the standard we want for our members.

We have been developing this for over 2 months and have brought forward the release date as we are also rebranding to FortuneDWB.com once we roll it out.

With any new system it takes some time to migrate and test but but we expect to be live very soon.

We are holding a Webinar to give our membership further details this Wednesday and by now you should have received an invitation by email to this event.

The management are confident you will be very happy with the new FortuneDWB services and facilities.

Thank you for your patience..

WishfulThinking
03-12-2011, 10:13 AM
Now why am I not surprised?

littleroundman
03-12-2011, 10:18 AM
Serial shill Manolo aka strosdegoz aka Dirson E Jimenez goes positively orgasmic over the change of name and direction on his DO NOTHING MONEY (http://blog.donothingmoney.com/fortune2x2-to-become-fortunedwb.html) blog

Apparently, the DWB part of FortuneDWB stands for "digital web book"

Digital Web Books, in Dirsons' own words "are a sort of eBook that you can edit and put any information you want in it. This is a great product because you can share anything you like and at the same time promote your business"

IOW, another B/S product which is available for free from a squillion sources making FortuneDWB nothing more than an attempt to at least LOOK like a legitimate business and not just the common, garden variety HYIP ponzi scam it is.

Nothing new to see here, folks, move along now.

Ponzi players only allowed on this ride, thank you.

path2prosperity
03-12-2011, 01:38 PM
IOW, another B/S product which is available for free from a squillion sources making FortuneDWB nothing more than an attempt to at least LOOK like a legitimate business and not just the common, garden variety HYIP ponzi scam it is.



It will be interesting to see if the British Advertisng Standards Authority are going to be fooled into believing that it is a legitimate business. Roger Macdavitt from Adlandpro was advertising the original site from the UK which obviously did not meet their standards. I doubt if he will be allowed to advertise the new one in the UK.

scratchycat
03-12-2011, 03:31 PM
It is still in his signature but I have not checked the link.

path2prosperity
03-22-2011, 04:07 AM
It is still in his signature but I have not checked the link.

Yes the new scam matrix advertisment is still in the signature and we can see the new web site and domain name for Fortune2x2 Fortune DWB (http://www.fortunedwb.com/)

Has "Sir Roger" from Adlandpro changed his user name for this scam? Has "Sir Roger's" previous user name for the Fortune2x2 scam, which was "romicail" re emerged as Marie Clements?

We will see what Advertising Standards Authority for UK has to say about the legitimacy of this advertisment in the not so distant future.

littleroundman
03-22-2011, 07:04 AM
Oh what a tangled web we weave,

when first we practice to deceive.

FortuneDWB website is registered to:
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/fortune001.jpg

HOWEVER,

the email address given for both the "admin" and "tech" contacts, tony@ballyhornan.org, rather than being of "Robert Corriveau" in fact leads us to THIS (http://ballyhornan.org/Newsletter-spring-2010.pdf) website where the good Mr Shore is shown as being a committee member of the BALLYHORNAN AND DISTRICT COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION (http://ballyhornan.org/Who2.html)

NOW we discover that "Tony" is, in fact TONY SHORE (https://profiles.google.com/inetmentor#inetmentor/about)here on GOOGLE PROFILES

"Tony Shore" it turns out, lists his occupation as being an "internet marketer" with one of his interests being as a member of the Monavie MLM MENTORS GLOBAL eXpansioN(MGX) (http://www.mentorsglobalx.com/tonyshore) team.

So,

the question now is whether "Tony Shore" is, in fact, merely the innocent webmaster of the FORTUNEWB (http://www.fortunedwb.com/) website, or is he really "Robert Corriveau" in disguise ???

But, WAIT, there's more.

We take a quick peek at the registration details for the Ballyhornan Community website, and what do we find ???

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Ballyhornan.jpg

Heavens to Murgatroyd,

and address in NORWAY of all places.

WHAT A SURPRISE !!!!!!

WishfulThinking
03-22-2011, 10:30 AM
And what is more Tony Shore has a UK telephone number and an address that doesnt look very norwegian that needs to be checked later after I've had my coffee

WishfulThinking
03-22-2011, 10:36 AM
15 Killard Square
Ballyhornan
DOWNPATRICK
BT30 7PW

NORTHERN IRELAND, UK

So we have a false address on the registration.

littleroundman
03-22-2011, 10:53 AM
15 Killard Square
Ballyhornan
DOWNPATRICK
BT30 7PW

NORTHERN IRELAND, UK

So we have a false address on the registration.

But, but, but,

"Tony" says that

15 Killard Square
DOWNPATRICK
BT30 7PW

is in Norway.

Surely he wouldn't be trying to cover his tracks by lying, would he ???

Maybe it's pure coincidence, and there really IS a

15 Killard Square
DOWNPATRICK
BT30 7PW
Norway.

WishfulThinking
03-22-2011, 02:35 PM
Who knows? It may come as a surprise to the norwegians though. lol

path2prosperity
03-22-2011, 04:23 PM
It looks as if Fortunedwb is not the only new domain and web site for this crap program. It is also Myfortune2x2

They also have their own money making forum with comments by a well known poster.
MyFortune2x2 - myfortune2x2.com - Money Earning Forum - Sponsored By Lucky2bet.com | FXCambier.com | PMarkets.com (http://www.moneyearningforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16108)

They have a new 2x10 matrix program run by a person whom they deem to be an honest admin :: www.Mef-Matrix.com | Let Money Come to You :: (http://www.mef-matrix.com/) and

They have 48 videos on YouTube - strosdegoz Channel: YouTube - strosdegoz's Channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/strosdegoz)

RobertC
03-22-2011, 06:03 PM
Hello

My name is Robert Corriveau, CEO of FortuneDWB, and I would like to reply to all the comments on this thread. First and foremost FortuneDWB is NOT A SCAM. Now, normally I would just overlook all this because it is based on nothing more than someone having too much time on their hands and think they know everything, when in fact, they know nothing. Why would you not just contact the source of your inquiries and ask?
Second, I NEVER run from anything. I have nothing to hide and am more than happy to talk to anyone to answer their questions. Seems a little funny though that if you look at the profiles of the individuals writing this false information - they have nothing there Hmmmmm.
Now what I would like to do is address each issue here.

WishfulThinking---(A 2 x 2 cycler founded by Robert Corriveau and Parvis Parvizi and promoted by what look to be the usual cast of ponzi promoters including manolo (Strosdegoz ) and Carl Haavaldsen on MMG, talkgold, AdlandPro etc.)

Answer: yes the company is founded by me (Robert Corriveau) As for the members involved I cannot stop anyone from joining and second if you have been in this industry for anytime there are always going to be things said about people that just are not true. I’m not condoning companies running a scam, as a matter of fact I would love to help shut them down. But sometimes people get involved with the company not knowing this. Then the people they bring into the company get hurt and of course they blame their upline when the real blame needs to be on the company.

WishfulThinking---“WOW” First this was a long one so I’ll just say this, first you have our compensation plan all wrong. Please go to this link to see what it is - then comment once you have it right.
Fortune DWB (http://www.fortunedwb.com/compensation.php)
Then you have this - (I love the "early bird sign up specials" too. lol I also like how they tout that everyone will be successful. Hmmmm....okey dokey. The truth is that the vast majority of people are not able to build huge (and you need huge for this) downlines and sustain those downlines and therefore, they never generate any income in programs such as these. How many relatives, friends can you con, beg and plead to to join this thing, let alone strangers? )

Answer: I would just like to point you to a great mentor of mine - Tim Sales. Please take a look at the video. Here is the link YouTube - MLM: Do Most People Fail? by Tim Sales (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LEjX1GfDEI)
(Oh, and they are also using AlertPay. These scams never use PayPal because they are against PayPal's TOS. That alone, should tell you something. If you look at some of the videos on line, it's confusing as hell. They had their pre launch (before the Early Bird Specials lol) back in November, I believe. And, as a "prize", you have the chance to win some worthless e-books.)

Answer: First we are using Alertpay at the start because we are now integrating our Ewallet system that is linked to Bank of America. Does Bank of America work with a scam? And we will be accepting all major credit cards. Second, take a look at PayPa.l They only work with 1 tier comp plans we are a multi level marketing company.
(They had this announcement on December 18th from CEO Robert Corriveau : "You all know by now that there was an issue with the coding of 1X2 matrices. It was discovered right after we launched. This is being addressed right now and corrected by the systems team. Robert will be talking about what happened and how we will correct it."
That's impressive. Already having issues right out of the gate. Perhaps he needs to read some of his free E-books to help him with his accounting/puter system issues.
Said it before and I'll say it again, Pyramids belong in Egypt.)

Answer: Yes we did have some trouble at the start and that is entirely because of the programmers that we had. To tell you the truth, once we could see that we were having trouble we brought in a new programmer and he let us know that the previous programmer did a really bad job and that they had ripped us of for $17,000. So we had to take in a new programmer to get it right and we lost 17k. One more thing, have YOU ever put a system together?
(To be fair, I did see that one moron actually posted the first check he got online from this scam. It was for get this......are you ready.....$16.00! Swear. $16.00. lmao I had to look twice while blowing my nose through my watery eyes to make sure I read the numbers correctly. )

Answer: That’s great a member showing that he was able to make money with us! You see it as $16. I see it as someone trying to make difference in his life. You may want to join under him and the reason I say that - well he has $16 and here is your end comment (my head is in the sky, my heart is with my wife and my ass is broke)
And as for the support, once we could see that we needed more support we got it done! BETTER than doing nothing right?

Path2prosperity---this is just someone trying to pitch there opportunity (EZ2x2)

Littleroundman--- (IOW, another B/S product which is available for free from a squillion sources making FortuneDWB nothing more than an attempt to at least LOOK like a legitimate business and not just the common, garden variety HYIP ponzi scam it is.)

Answer: We have a great product and we don’t even try to hide it. You can download a free digital web book from our site and if you had any imagination at all you would know all the great things that can be done with it. Please feel free to go to our site and down load.

Path2prosperity--- (It will be interesting to see if the British Advertisng Standards Authority are going to be fooled into believing that it is a legitimate business. Roger Macdavitt from Adlandpro was advertising the original site from the UK which obviously did not meet their standards. I doubt if he will be allowed to advertise the new one in the UK.)

Answer: We are currently working with CAP (Committee of Advertising Practice Digital remit advice - Committee of Advertising Practice (http://www.cap.org.uk/CAPServices/Digital-remit-advice.aspx)) to make sure we meet all ASA laws.

Path2prosperity--- Yes the new scam matrix advertisment is still in the signature and we can see the new web site and domain name for Fortune2x2 Fortune DWB
Has "Sir Roger" from Adlandpro changed his user name for this scam? Has "Sir Roger's" previous user name for the Fortune2x2 scam, which was "romicail" re emerged as Marie Clements?

Answer: This I have no idea what you are talking about.

Littleroundman--- the email address given for both the "admin" and "tech" contacts, tony@ballyhornan.org, rather than being of "Robert Corriveau" in fact leads us to THIS website where the good Mr Shore is shown as being a committee member of the BALLYHORNAN AND DISTRICT COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION

Answer: Yes very good, you are right. Tony Shore is Admin and tech support and not me, why would I want support calls and tech questions? That is what I hire people to take care of. Do you think the CEO of Amway handles support tickets?
And yes Tony is a member of the Ballyhornan Community Association, donating his time to support his community. Do you support your community?
(the question now is whether "Tony Shore" is, in fact, merely the innocent webmaster of the FORTUNEWB website, or is he really "Robert Corriveau" in disguise ???)

Answer: This one is just funny

(We take a quick peek at the registration details for the Ballyhornan Community website, and what do we find ???)
Answer: wow you are really good, and yes Tony handles all their I.T. work. So yes, the domain would be under his name.


To end this massage, I know and feel that FortuneDWB is going to be a great company where many lives can be changed for the better and that through FortuneDWB we are going to be able to help thousands of people around the world better their lives with the charities we are working with. That is all I can say because I’m sure the people that adversely have way too much time on their hands will just see this as a plug to take a better look at FortuneDWB.

Like I said I have nothing to hide and I would be more than happy to answer any questions you may have. If you dare to call me here is my number (786-623-2353) and yes that is a Florida number. I use Skype and that is a number I have through them to save money for the people that are calling me from the States. Or you can email me at rob@fortunedwb.comTo Your Success

Robert Corriveau
CEO/FortuneDWB.

path2prosperity
03-25-2011, 02:29 AM
Path2prosperity--- (It will be interesting to see if the British Advertisng Standards Authority are going to be fooled into believing that it is a legitimate business. Roger Macdavitt from Adlandpro was advertising the original site from the UK which obviously did not meet their standards. I doubt if he will be allowed to advertise the new one in the UK.)

Answer: We are currently working with CAP (Committee of Advertising Practice Digital remit advice - Committee of Advertising Practice (http://www.cap.org.uk/CAPServices/Digital-remit-advice.aspx)) to make sure we meet all ASA laws.



We will see if British Advertising Standards Authority consider that Roger Macdavitt, who has the audacity to call himself Sir Roger on the corrupt Adlandpro advertising board upholds your statement about Sir Roger's right to advertise this "legitimate opportunity" in UK. "Sir Roger" has a replicated web site Fortune DWB (http://www.fortunedwb.com/?aff=romacmail)

path2prosperity
03-25-2011, 02:54 AM
"Sir Roger" advertises his Fortune2x2 opportunity in an art forum. What has Fortune2x2 got to do with fine art? Please let us know "SIR ROGER". More likely the adverising from one better known as Roger The Lodger The ---. 18-Bogdan Fiedur Featured Art Exhibit | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2417517/BogdanFiedurFeaturedArtExhibit/18.aspx)

A Life Aloft
03-25-2011, 03:13 AM
Interesting....Sprint landline
Roi Unlimited
Marie Klemets
Ph. 786-623-2353
Marie Klemets's ROIUnlimited.com Site - Changing Lives Across the Globe (http://www.roiunlimited.com/easymoney-tour.php?a=home)

Oooohhh and they have all new "Travel Cards" .......and oooohhh again, the Roi "Travel Club" ROI Unlimited Travel Portal (http://www.roitravelportal.com/)

Geez, World Ventures, move over!

Treasue Island Hotel and Casino Vegas 2 adults April 9th-April 11th- Expedia deluxe room view of the strip, 35% off show tickets and 50% cabana credit $248.46

ROI TIHC $262.45 2 adults same dates deluxe room with strip view and and same show and cabana discounts

Wow what a deal! lol

wserra
03-25-2011, 06:17 AM
Like I said I have nothing to hide and I would be more than happy to answer any questions you may have.

Good. I have a couple.

FortuneDWB has no history. It's only been around for months. So a large part of the reason for anyone to sign up would be the personal entreaties of the people who run the place. On your "Executive Team" page (http://www.fortunedwb.com/company.php), you brag that "FortuneDWB was founded by an innovative, dynamic, and experienced team of professionals dedicated to changing lives around the world ... with decades of experience in the direct selling industry". Given that the company has no track record, the only basis for due diligence is the track record of those who run it. And you come here to give it a plug.

So: you've been very careful online to only give a Finland address. Is that really where you are? Because there are "Robert Corriveau"s in the US with interesting pasts. Judgments. Federal tax liens. Evictions. Bankruptcy. I'm sure you'll agree that a prospective investor in a company would need to know if its CEO had such a past. Where are you?

How's "PowerGBG" doing? That was your last big thing (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/robert-corriveau/13/a1b/336), right? Y'know, that incredible opportunity that'll get you huge yachts and piles of cash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrJQKJEItOY&feature=related)? The Google cache of the site (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:PEdSgjqsCFEJ:www.powergbg.com/+Power+GBG&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com) and the whois (http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?domain=powergbg.com&prog_id=GoDaddy) make it clear it was you. It appears to have folded up shop (http://www.powergbg.com/) about a month ago.

So you just moved on. Next. What happened to the folks who gave "PowerGBG" money?

Whip
03-25-2011, 07:51 AM
Does Bank of America work with a scam?

Yes they have.
The ASD ponzi as well as a Russian criminal syndicate through not vetting the mules hired in the States:
Ebook websites, fraud charges, Devbill/DigitalAge/Pluto - Scam and Phishbusters | DSLReports Forums (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19620593-Ebook-websites-fraud-charges-Devbill-DigitalAge-Pluto)

strosdegoz
03-26-2011, 03:20 AM
It looks as if Fortunedwb is not the only new domain and web site for this crap program. It is also Myfortune2x2

They also have their own money making forum with comments by a well known poster.
MyFortune2x2 - myfortune2x2.com - Money Earning Forum - Sponsored By Lucky2bet.com | FXCambier.com | PMarkets.com (http://www.moneyearningforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16108)

They have a new 2x10 matrix program run by a person whom they deem to be an honest admin :: www.Mef-Matrix.com | Let Money Come to You :: (http://www.mef-matrix.com/) and

They have 48 videos on YouTube - strosdegoz Channel: YouTube - strosdegoz's Channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/strosdegoz)


This Youtube channel is the real proof we have been all looking for....
After looking at it which you clearly didn't now everything is clear about FortuneDWB aka Fortune2x2.

Specially this one that explains the compensation plan : YouTube - strosdegoz's Channel (http://www.youtube.com/strosdegoz#p/a/u/0/H_dgp442v74)

Or Maybe this one talking about the product : YouTube - strosdegoz's Channel (http://www.youtube.com/strosdegoz#p/a/u/1/EyACBFKvti4) (In this one specially if you know Spanish you will realize is a news tv show about sport) but I guess Fortune2x2 is the same.

This one is definitely the proof relating, fortune2x2 with the end of the world in 2012... (See for yourself ) YouTube - $50,000 Car on Excalibur Casino, Las Vegas Nevada (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-hElnvCMxY)

Bottom line, if you have a youtube channel with videos about your friend coming on tv, or with your vacations footage then you mind end up in the Club-Asteria or Fortune2x2 thread.

ROFL!!!

P.S. I personally purchased myfortune2x2.com to promote fortune2x2, nothing to do with the company and MEF is a forum that I am barely familiar with...

Do I hear Drugs??? Anyone?

baylee
03-26-2011, 03:49 PM
Hello

My name is Robert Corriveau, CEO of FortuneDWB, and I would like to reply to all the comments on this thread. First and foremost FortuneDWB is NOT A SCAM. Now, normally I would just overlook all this because it is based on nothing more than someone having too much time on their hands and think they know everything, when in fact, they know nothing. Why would you not just contact the source of your inquiries and ask?
Second, I NEVER run from anything. I have nothing to hide and am more than happy to talk to anyone to answer their questions. Seems a little funny though that if you look at the profiles of the individuals writing this false information - they have nothing there Hmmmmm.
Now what I would like to do is address each issue here.

WishfulThinking---(A 2 x 2 cycler founded by Robert Corriveau and Parvis Parvizi and promoted by what look to be the usual cast of ponzi promoters including manolo (Strosdegoz ) and Carl Haavaldsen on MMG, talkgold, AdlandPro etc.)

Answer: yes the company is founded by me (Robert Corriveau) As for the members involved I cannot stop anyone from joining and second if you have been in this industry for anytime there are always going to be things said about people that just are not true. I’m not condoning companies running a scam, as a matter of fact I would love to help shut them down. But sometimes people get involved with the company not knowing this. Then the people they bring into the company get hurt and of course they blame their upline when the real blame needs to be on the company.

WishfulThinking---“WOW” First this was a long one so I’ll just say this, first you have our compensation plan all wrong. Please go to this link to see what it is - then comment once you have it right.
Fortune DWB (http://www.fortunedwb.com/compensation.php)
Then you have this - (I love the "early bird sign up specials" too. lol I also like how they tout that everyone will be successful. Hmmmm....okey dokey. The truth is that the vast majority of people are not able to build huge (and you need huge for this) downlines and sustain those downlines and therefore, they never generate any income in programs such as these. How many relatives, friends can you con, beg and plead to to join this thing, let alone strangers? )

Answer: I would just like to point you to a great mentor of mine - Tim Sales. Please take a look at the video. Here is the link YouTube - MLM: Do Most People Fail? by Tim Sales (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LEjX1GfDEI)
(Oh, and they are also using AlertPay. These scams never use PayPal because they are against PayPal's TOS. That alone, should tell you something. If you look at some of the videos on line, it's confusing as hell. They had their pre launch (before the Early Bird Specials lol) back in November, I believe. And, as a "prize", you have the chance to win some worthless e-books.)

Answer: First we are using Alertpay at the start because we are now integrating our Ewallet system that is linked to Bank of America. Does Bank of America work with a scam? And we will be accepting all major credit cards. Second, take a look at PayPa.l They only work with 1 tier comp plans we are a multi level marketing company.
(They had this announcement on December 18th from CEO Robert Corriveau : "You all know by now that there was an issue with the coding of 1X2 matrices. It was discovered right after we launched. This is being addressed right now and corrected by the systems team. Robert will be talking about what happened and how we will correct it."
That's impressive. Already having issues right out of the gate. Perhaps he needs to read some of his free E-books to help him with his accounting/puter system issues.
Said it before and I'll say it again, Pyramids belong in Egypt.)

Answer: Yes we did have some trouble at the start and that is entirely because of the programmers that we had. To tell you the truth, once we could see that we were having trouble we brought in a new programmer and he let us know that the previous programmer did a really bad job and that they had ripped us of for $17,000. So we had to take in a new programmer to get it right and we lost 17k. One more thing, have YOU ever put a system together?
(To be fair, I did see that one moron actually posted the first check he got online from this scam. It was for get this......are you ready.....$16.00! Swear. $16.00. lmao I had to look twice while blowing my nose through my watery eyes to make sure I read the numbers correctly. )

Answer: That’s great a member showing that he was able to make money with us! You see it as $16. I see it as someone trying to make difference in his life. You may want to join under him and the reason I say that - well he has $16 and here is your end comment (my head is in the sky, my heart is with my wife and my ass is broke)
And as for the support, once we could see that we needed more support we got it done! BETTER than doing nothing right?

Path2prosperity---this is just someone trying to pitch there opportunity (EZ2x2)

Littleroundman--- (IOW, another B/S product which is available for free from a squillion sources making FortuneDWB nothing more than an attempt to at least LOOK like a legitimate business and not just the common, garden variety HYIP ponzi scam it is.)

Answer: We have a great product and we don’t even try to hide it. You can download a free digital web book from our site and if you had any imagination at all you would know all the great things that can be done with it. Please feel free to go to our site and down load.

Path2prosperity--- (It will be interesting to see if the British Advertisng Standards Authority are going to be fooled into believing that it is a legitimate business. Roger Macdavitt from Adlandpro was advertising the original site from the UK which obviously did not meet their standards. I doubt if he will be allowed to advertise the new one in the UK.)

Answer: We are currently working with CAP (Committee of Advertising Practice Digital remit advice - Committee of Advertising Practice (http://www.cap.org.uk/CAPServices/Digital-remit-advice.aspx)) to make sure we meet all ASA laws.

Path2prosperity--- Yes the new scam matrix advertisment is still in the signature and we can see the new web site and domain name for Fortune2x2 Fortune DWB
Has "Sir Roger" from Adlandpro changed his user name for this scam? Has "Sir Roger's" previous user name for the Fortune2x2 scam, which was "romicail" re emerged as Marie Clements?

Answer: This I have no idea what you are talking about.

Littleroundman--- the email address given for both the "admin" and "tech" contacts, tony@ballyhornan.org, rather than being of "Robert Corriveau" in fact leads us to THIS website where the good Mr Shore is shown as being a committee member of the BALLYHORNAN AND DISTRICT COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION

Answer: Yes very good, you are right. Tony Shore is Admin and tech support and not me, why would I want support calls and tech questions? That is what I hire people to take care of. Do you think the CEO of Amway handles support tickets?
And yes Tony is a member of the Ballyhornan Community Association, donating his time to support his community. Do you support your community?
(the question now is whether "Tony Shore" is, in fact, merely the innocent webmaster of the FORTUNEWB website, or is he really "Robert Corriveau" in disguise ???)

Answer: This one is just funny

(We take a quick peek at the registration details for the Ballyhornan Community website, and what do we find ???)
Answer: wow you are really good, and yes Tony handles all their I.T. work. So yes, the domain would be under his name.


To end this massage, I know and feel that FortuneDWB is going to be a great company where many lives can be changed for the better and that through FortuneDWB we are going to be able to help thousands of people around the world better their lives with the charities we are working with. That is all I can say because I’m sure the people that adversely have way too much time on their hands will just see this as a plug to take a better look at FortuneDWB.

Like I said I have nothing to hide and I would be more than happy to answer any questions you may have. If you dare to call me here is my number (786-623-2353) and yes that is a Florida number. I use Skype and that is a number I have through them to save money for the people that are calling me from the States. Or you can email me at rob@fortunedwb.comTo Your Success

Robert Corriveau
CEO/FortuneDWB.

This guy is a second string Tap Dancer. Run away as fast as you can.

baylee
03-26-2011, 04:31 PM
This Youtube channel is the real proof we have been all looking for....
After looking at it which you clearly didn't now everything is clear about FortuneDWB aka Fortune2x2.

Specially this one that explains the compensation plan : YouTube - strosdegoz's Channel (http://www.youtube.com/strosdegoz#p/a/u/0/H_dgp442v74)

Or Maybe this one talking about the product : YouTube - strosdegoz's Channel (http://www.youtube.com/strosdegoz#p/a/u/1/EyACBFKvti4) (In this one specially if you know Spanish you will realize is a news tv show about sport) but I guess Fortune2x2 is the same.

This one is definitely the proof relating, fortune2x2 with the end of the world in 2012... (See for yourself ) YouTube - $50,000 Car on Excalibur Casino, Las Vegas Nevada (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-hElnvCMxY)

Bottom line, if you have a youtube channel with videos about your friend coming on tv, or with your vacations footage then you mind end up in the Club-Asteria or Fortune2x2 thread.

ROFL!!!

P.S. I personally purchased myfortune2x2.com to promote fortune2x2, nothing to do with the company and MEF is a forum that I am barely familiar with...

Do I hear Drugs??? Anyone?

If you are pimping it, that's all I need to know. Out and out scam.

WishfulThinking
03-26-2011, 04:45 PM
Robert Corriveau,

Nice to see you coming over here to try to justify Fortune 2 x 2 as a real legitimate business. It's not the kind of thing that real businesses usually do, because they are just that - real businesses, but there you go.

Your comment



Answer: yes the company is founded by me (Robert Corriveau) As for the members involved I cannot stop anyone from joining and second if you have been in this industry for anytime there are always going to be things said about people that just are not true. I’m not condoning companies running a scam, as a matter of fact I would love to help shut them down. But sometimes people get involved with the company not knowing this. Then the people they bring into the company get hurt and of course they blame their upline when the real blame needs to be on the company.

would be amusing, if it wasnt for the fact that you are charging people real money for your (IMHO) valueless product.

After 35 years as a small business owner, I can assure you that you can stop people from joining a business, selling your product and using your business name if you wish to.

No prudent business owner permits association for long with anyone who will drag their name into disrepute or misrepresent the business. When that happens in the real business world, there is usually a parting of the ways. The "industry" where this simple business rule does not apply is, of course, the "network marketing business". Here the ends justify the means and business owners dont seem to give a d*mn if their members/salesmen/independent business operators invent a whole history of falsehoods in the name of the business to make a buck. To h*ll with reputation or offering value for money, lets just get em in, paid up and recruit recruit recruit.

Your innocent protests about your seeming helplessness to control who represents your business and how they do it are not going to convince anyone who has ever been in business for more than 5 minutes. By using a little common sense, we can only assume that you are perfectly aware of what is going on with Fortune 2 x 2 and who is promoting it and where.

As far as Paypal is concerned, you will find that you can buy certain real products sold by MLMs, but not the many nebulous eproducts pumped by network marketers. In fact you are probably safer with them than the Bank of America. lol They froze the ASD account shortly after it was opened, whilst BoA continued processing payments for ASD until the Secret Service raided.

Nice try, but so far you have not addressed the questions asked of you, but have simply bluffed your way through it by making non-answers


through FortuneDWB we are going to be able to help thousands of people around the world better their lives with the charities we are working with.

If you are going to use the charities card, I hope you have your ducks in a row and have all the suitable registrations and permissions to use their names.

strosdegoz
03-26-2011, 06:28 PM
:RpS_thumbup::judge::Fiddler::RpS_thumbsup:

LOL

A Life Aloft
03-26-2011, 06:56 PM
:RpS_thumbup::judge::Fiddler::RpS_thumbsup:

LOL
That's your response, Dirson, dear? I guess that's all we can expect from a 23 year old 3rd rate con man with no education or desire to get one apparently, from a third world country, who is involved with and pimps several scams all over the net. Let us know in five years how your activites have worked out for you and what kind of life you have. At least you have plenty of rum down there to dull your senses with. You'll need to soon enough.

I thought this was pretty damn funny: "Amount of hours spent on the MMG forums daily?: 6-12 Hours". Posts: 13,029 posts (7.05 per day)
Joined: 5-March 06 Last Seen: Today, 03:00 PM

Obviously, you have no job either. lmao BTW, how's Club Hysteria working out for you, and your "do nothing make big money" plan, sonny? You make enough money by scamming others, to buy a bicycle yet? How are your worthless Ebooks going? Just how many ponzies and HYIPs are you in now? I gave up counting.


http://www.apsense.com/abc/strosdegoz

http://blog.donothingmoney.com/

strosdegoz
03-26-2011, 07:16 PM
If you are pimping it, that's all I need to know. Out and out scam.

So you can in and loose all of your savings in a HYIP!!! You don't see any of the flags when your money was in the game.
So now you lost all of your savings and decide to promote the crappy Millionaire Cycler and cry around every forum screaming scam, lol.

You should have seen the blue, green, yellow and red flags when your money was in it, ROFL.

And Millionaire Cycler is the exact same thing you complain all around, so why promote it?
That's the evidence that all you say is just trying to get people to join you on that crappy program.

strosdegoz
03-26-2011, 07:18 PM
That's your response, Dirson, dear? I guess that's all we can expect from a 23 year old 3rd rate con man with no education or desire to get one apparently, from a third world country, who is involved with and pimps several scams all over the net. Let us know in five years how your activites have worked out for you and what kind of life you have. At least you have plenty of rum down there to dull your senses with. You'll need to soon enough.

I thought this was pretty damn funny: "Amount of hours spent on the MMG forums daily?: 6-12 Hours". Obviously, you have no job either. lmao BTW, how's Club Hysteria working out for you, and your "do nothing make big money" plan, sonny? You make enough money by scamming others, to buy a bicycle yet? How are your worthless Ebooks going?

strosdegoz's Business Center - My Business Opportunities (http://www.apsense.com/abc/strosdegoz)

DoNothingMoney Blog | Advertising Strategies & Income Opportunities. How To Advertise And Build your business with online (http://blog.donothingmoney.com/)

24 Years old my friend

strosdegoz
03-26-2011, 07:19 PM
That's your response, Dirson, dear? I guess that's all we can expect from a 23 year old 3rd rate con man with no education or desire to get one apparently, from a third world country, who is involved with and pimps several scams all over the net. Let us know in five years how your activites have worked out for you and what kind of life you have. At least you have plenty of rum down there to dull your senses with. You'll need to soon enough.

I thought this was pretty damn funny: "Amount of hours spent on the MMG forums daily?: 6-12 Hours". Obviously, you have no job either. lmao BTW, how's Club Hysteria working out for you, and your "do nothing make big money" plan, sonny? You make enough money by scamming others, to buy a bicycle yet? How are your worthless Ebooks going?

strosdegoz's Business Center - My Business Opportunities (http://www.apsense.com/abc/strosdegoz)

DoNothingMoney Blog | Advertising Strategies & Income Opportunities. How To Advertise And Build your business with online (http://blog.donothingmoney.com/)

Yup, I do not work at McDonalds like you and make way more :D :P

baylee
03-26-2011, 07:25 PM
And Millionaire Cycler is the exact same thing you complain all around, so why promote it?
That's the evidence that all you say is just trying to get people to join you on that crappy program.

Son! You should get off of whatever you are on. Sorry LA but he doesn't rate 3rd rate con man, more like Oh, I don't know? How far down does Pimp go?

A Life Aloft
03-26-2011, 07:30 PM
Son! You should get off of whatever you are on. Sorry LA but he doesn't rate 3rd rate con man.Man, this little worm is a huge serial scammer and a little ponzi pimp Queen! lmao He's Manola over on Talk Gold Join Date 08-05-2006 Total Posts 1,045. He also promotes Zubie!

baylee
03-26-2011, 08:30 PM
Man, this little worm is a huge serial scammer and a little ponzi pimp Queen! lmao He's Manola over on Talk Gold Join Date 08-05-2006 Total Posts 1,045. He also promotes Zubie!
LOL, I know who he is, Every time he posts a "I got paid and how much, I send that post to these people. I just hope they do "clawback" when they take him down.

StopFraud.gov - Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force (http://www.stopfraud.gov/)

littleroundman
03-26-2011, 08:35 PM
LOL, I know who he is, Every time he posts a "I got paid and how much, I sent that post to these people. I just hope they do "clawback" when they take him down.

StopFraud.gov - Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force (http://www.stopfraud.gov/)

As if anyone would bother going after such a small time shill.

Better to keep him posting his nonsense on forums such as this so people can get a much clearer picture of what Manolo/Strosdegoz/Dirson is REALLY like

(HINT: he ain't no literary or financial genius)

A Life Aloft
03-26-2011, 08:37 PM
LOL, I know who he is, Every time he posts a "I got paid and how much, I sent that post to these people. I just hope they do "clawback" when they take him down.

StopFraud.gov - Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force (http://www.stopfraud.gov/) Cripes, I keep learning about scammers constantly. Who the hell can keep up with them all? lol This guy has been at this for a few years now apparently and started hawking scams when he was just a teenager! His parents must be so proud. He's hanging around on the net with several other well know scammers (I am just seeing), some of which I recognize/know about and some not so much. It's more than a full time job just trying to keep up with the likes of these douchebag lowlife swindlers, let alone all the thousands of the phony flim flams.

One of many things that they seem to have in common though, are asinine, unintelligent posts, deflecting and nevering answering any direct questions or respondingand addressing the facts and issues. Most of them have no ability whatsoever to even begin to defend their actions and schemes. They do seem to enjoy the hell out of the emoticons though.

littleroundman
03-26-2011, 08:53 PM
One of many things that they seem to have in common though, are asinine, unintelligent posts, deflecting and nevering answering any direct questions or respondingand addressing the facts and issues. Most of them have no ability whatsoever to even begin to defend their actions and schemes. They do seem to enjoy the hell out of the emoticons though.

I can imagine young Stros running around his bedroom hi fiving himself and yelling out

"mum, mum, I'm on the internet, I'm famous"

baylee
03-26-2011, 09:13 PM
I can imagine young Stros running around his bedroom hi fiving himself and yelling out

"mum, mum, I'm on the internet, I'm famous"

Oh, he has some friends who support him named 10pucksup, omar, dittoteam, lerdbottom, and few others that bottom feed.

littleroundman
03-26-2011, 09:48 PM
Oh, he has some friends who support him named 10pucksup, omar, dittoteam, lerdbottom, and few others that bottom feed.

FRIENDS ??????

You Americans really ARE strange if that's what you consider to be "friends"

As for "support" FAWGEDDABOWDIT

That bunch would rip off their own grandmothers and smile while they did it.

A Life Aloft
03-26-2011, 10:01 PM
24 Years old my friend24! Well that makes all the damn difference in the world then, sonny! Happy Birthday, dear! 24 years old now and what exactly do you have to show for your 24 years on this planet thus far? A college education? Nope. A career? Nope. A job? Nope. Still living at home with Mommy? Yeppers. At least I was spot on with the rest of my assessment of your pathetic hapless resume.

I love it when a scammer is scammed by one of his fellow scammers though. What goes around always eventually comes around.

CashX Payment Processor written by strosdegoz (http://www.italkmoney.com/topic/7807-cashx-payment-processor/)

I see you whining like a girl all over the net about scams you dumped your money into and then got ripped off! Karma is a real bitch isn't it?

From MMG where he is promoting yet another scam (they seem to be endless with this little weasel) in response to some mark who invested in it: "Hey thanks alot!!!
When you want your 20 cents, pm me, or post here." 20 whole cents! Move over Bill Gates!!!!

One poster wasn't too pleased though: "joined since yesterday,sent pm with egold details to stros, still not paid ,where is stros?"

Cripes, what a bunch of pathetic losers. It's pretty bad when a Mod on MMG steps in and closes the thread! I mean when does that ever happen on that cesspool? LMAO

A Life Aloft
03-26-2011, 10:10 PM
I can imagine young Stros running around his bedroom hi fiving himself and yelling out

"mum, mum, I'm on the internet, I'm famous"I imagine it will be another one of his marvelous, insightful You Tube videos, real soon! ROTFL!

Wonder how many millions he made in Trivita.......I guess enough to buy a new tee shirt.

Wow!! What a classy bunch! Love the big pewter star earing!!! That just screams good taste and success!! lol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AB2UTQwUB0

A Life Aloft
03-26-2011, 10:38 PM
Yup, I do not work at McDonalds like you and make way more :D :PGee, that was witty. Let's compare bank accounts then. Post a photocopy of your current bank statement, sweetie. You're all talk, hype, lies, phony b.s. and no cojones. You make all kinds of bullshit bogus claims all over the net. Let's see the proof. I am pretty damn certain that I made more money in the last 24 hours than you have in a year of trying to promote scams and attempting to steal from others and rip them off, sonny. And, I earned it legally and honestly; something you would know nothing about and have no experience in.

http://www.bruce-it-now.com/ebay/listings/chicken.gif

littleroundman
03-26-2011, 11:12 PM
I just KNEW I'd seen that Manolo guy and his compadres somewhere before:

It was seeing the guy in the formal attire singlet who threw me off.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:rUp0SRx6y0UPPM:http://members.tripod.com/%7Eink_and_paint/2crows.jpg&t=1

Heyyy, Manolo, joo wun smart hombre

where you keepa deez brainzzz"

"Iss eezi, onder my sombrero"

okosh
03-27-2011, 12:44 AM
Wonder how many millions he made in Trivita.......I guess enough to buy a new tee shirt.

Sorry for off topic but I must ask....
Trivita is a scam??....Just wondering since they doing a big launch here in Aus complete with infomercial and big dinners and promotions in major cities...

A Life Aloft
03-27-2011, 01:08 AM
Huge scam, typical MLM. Over priced vitamins and various supplements with b.s. health claims. They have no actual medical studies on even one of their products to back up their outrageous claims, only "testimonials". Oh and they throw in the Christian aspect to sucker that group in as well.

TRIVITA Scam Review | Affiliate Trivita.com
Posted on 23 November 2010

"I was asked to evaluate Trivita’s Affiliate Program so here we go …
The following information is from the affiliate member sales pdf.

Trivita has two affiliate structures

1. Afilliate – your basic multi level marketing mlm structure.
2. Co-op advertising – purchasing the right to make affiliate commissions off a customer who has already made a purchase from trivita.

So let’s see what we can learn.

Affiliate payout structure is mlm …Plainly!!!

In the affiliate pdf it clearly lays out an mlm structure. It refers to “tiers 1 through 7.” any time you see the word “tier” please just stop considering the “opportunity”. Mlms have one of the worst time investment to profit ratio possible.

Co-op advertising (from the Q and A section of the pdf) and my responses.

The co-op advertising program is an option for affiliate members to expand their customer base and contacts in an effort to grow their business. The program allows affiliate members to acquire these contacts for the current going rate, …

they don’t tell you what the going rate is but my research shows it to be about $50 per customer.

…Which is based on the volume of response generated by trivita corporate advertisements. When an affiliate Member acquires these contacts through the co-op formatted program, they are also receiving the lifetime rights to earn compensation on the acquired contacts as long as they are an active affiliate member. …

Make sure you don’t stop being an “active affiliate member” because it sounds like you then lose your income from the customers you purchased.

…Compensation is paid and calculated through the trivita affiliate member compensation plan based on commissionable orders placed by the media contacts.…

Cool, so let’s get this straight. Some lady happens over to the trivita.com website. She listens to a video and feels moved by how the company is so much into wellness. Because they talk about the four types of welness …Spiritual, physical, emotional, financial. So she looks around to find a product to her liking. Let’s say for example “trivita joint complex” she pays $37.99 (if she’s a first time customer) or $29.99 if she has purchased previously.

So now that she is a customer of trivita, you have the opportunity to pay $50 for the rights to a percentage of her future purchases.

This gets me thinking about my spending habits. There are many websites i have only purchased one item from. So i hope this lady is not like me because that would mean whoever paid the $50 for me, just flushed all of it down the toilet. Let’s do a little calculating here so we can figure out how much more the lady has to spend for us to brake even. According to the affiliate pdf you get 30 percent of a person directly under you. So to make our $50 back she has to spend …

$50/.30=$166

So she has to spend $166 or 5.5 more bottles of the joint complex for you to get your $50 back. That’s just to break even. But wait, she didn’t just spend $166. Remember she bought her first bottle for $37.99. That’s how she became a customer. And you got no commission on that one. So to re-do the math in this example your customer has to spend a total of (166+38=204) $204 on trivita products for you to just break even.

…Affiliate members can enhance their compensation and order volume by following up with their acquired media contacts by cultivating relationships and sharing the affiliate member opportunity.

Oh no they did not just say that out loud!!
Forgive me, I had to stop and laugh for a moment.

So remember that gal that bought her first bottle of joint complex. Well guess what? For your $50 you now have the right to contact this poor woman and try to get her to join the affiliate program.

Are you serious trivita??

Some poor lady is nice enough to purchase something from your website and now you are going to allow some stranger to contact her and try to make her his affiliate?

I’ve really seen enough here. These type of business models are used by company’s because of the huge advantage to the company. Not to you!

Advice …
- please stay away from any business model that uses confusing formulas in there payout structures (like the ones in this affiliate pdf).
- the first time you hear or see the word “tiers” run for the hills.

Here’s an idea! Enter all the ingredients to trivita’s joint complex formula into google. There you will find the same exact product for about $20 plus the same shipping as trivita. Slap your own label on it and sell it for the same price as trivita does. If the same lady buys 5 of those then you just made at least $50 bucks instead of just breaking even.

Good luck out there!

PART II

It looks like I overlooked one aspect of the “Trivita Business Opportunity” as some like to call it. It turns out that the examples I gave you above are only good for the first 90 days. After the first 90 days the Trivita affiliate program knocks 20% off all of your future commissions (Actually it says it knocks it down by only 20% but then the math example they give, shows it is knocked down even more than that).

Isn’t that lovely. So here you are putting all that blood, sweat, and tears into this company for the first 90 days then bada-bing! Whammo! they reward you by reducing all your commisions, from day 91 forward, to 80% of what they previously were (or lower, as the math will show).

“Hey thanks affiliate! You’ve shown so much dedication to our company that now we are going to make it even more difficult for you to become profitable. We still love ya tho! So keep up the good work! :^)”

Let’s take another look at our example in the previous post with the co-op advertising portion of the “Trivita Business Opportunity.”

So after the 90 days are up, if we now buy one of their customers for $50, how much money does the customer have to spend in order for us to break even?

Before we calculate this, let’s read the proper new calculation on the Trivita affiliate pdf

(Http://www.Trivita.Com/web/us/media/pdf/affiliate_member_sales.Pdf)
There are two important variables in factoring the Reward Value on your personal and total group sales. The first is the Income Accelerator Weekly Bonus. This bonus (explained below) is a 90-day bonus on all new Members and Affiliate Members. During this 90-day period the Reward Value on all product sales is calculated at 100 percent RV. For example, Nopalea has 40 VP and a single bottle sells for $40 US. During the 90-day bonus period, the RV is 100 percent so the calculation would be: $40 x 30% = $12.00.
After the 90-day period is over, the RV is lowered to 80 percent. For example, Nopalea has 40 VitaPoints but the RV on Nopalea is 80 percent of the sale price. If it is a single bottle at $40 US, you would be compensated on $32 multiplied by the particular bonus or tiered compensation. So if it was a Member on your first tier and they purchased one bottle of Nopalea, you would receive $32 x 21% = $6.72 US.

OK, so they’ve given us our new formula for after the 90 days are up. Somehow our previous 30% has been reduced to 21% from a customer who is directly under us (tier 1). So we will plug this into our previous formula to see how much that nice lady we purchased will have to spend for us to break even on our $50.

$50/.30=$166 <–that was before the 90 days. Here’s the new calculation ..
$50/.21=$238

So before she had to spend $166 in order for us to break even (that’s not counting the $37.99 she spent before we started making money off of her)
So now she has to spend $238 in order for us to break even on our $50 right? Nope, Wrong! You see the $166 was correct in our previous formula because we were getting paid commission on 100% of her purchase. But now we are getting commission on only 80% of her purchases. So she has to spend 20% more than the $238 in order for us to earn our $50 back! So let’s do this final calculation to see how much she has to spend for us to break even …

$238 x 1.20= 285.60

Let’s just say $285. Okey dokey, now we’re getting somewhere! Remember that joint complex for $30. How many more of those or something like them does she need to purchase to break even?

$285 / $30 = 9.5

Wow! Do these MLM’s use some interesting math or what? Pre 90 days our customer only had to buy 5.5 bottles for us to break even. Now she has to buy 9.5 bottles for us to break even.

Hope you found this helpful! …Please leave a comment or question."

TRIVITA Scam Review | Affiliate Trivita.com | Make Money Sense (http://christianjyth.com/lose_money/trivita-affiliate-marketing-business-scam-or-legit)

Hopeless IamAWilly over on Scam has been in this program since the begining, promotes it all over the place, insists it's the best thing since sliced bread and then freely admits he has yet to break even, let alone see a profit. lmao We had a thread over there aout it going for some time. Pretty funny stuff.

A Life Aloft
03-27-2011, 01:16 AM
Another review for you Osh:

TriVita - Is It A Scam? - LisaBarger.com (http://www.lisabarger.com/is-it-a-scam/trivita.html)

Plus, here the thread we had going with Willy boy on here til he tucked tail and ran, like all the scammers who come here eventually do:

http://www.realscam.com/f9/trivita-develop-relationship-god-184/

strosdegoz
03-27-2011, 02:50 AM
You can learn some stuff here, for example.

Jealousy does not have limits... I don't know how and why this guy envy us / Me, so much.

strosdegoz
03-27-2011, 02:51 AM
People don't be stupid... Hard not to for you guys. But if even Trivita is a Scam, in business for over 11 years then the question is only one for you guys... What program is not a scam? Simple

strosdegoz
03-27-2011, 02:54 AM
Guys you all love me, I am so grateful.... LOL, its great, you post my videos, my posts, my everything.

Remember, I have facebook and Twitter too :D

You can comment there too.
I need to put some more videos on Youtube for you guys, you are my biggest fans

littleroundman
03-27-2011, 04:39 AM
We love you, Manolo,

we positively worship the ground on which you walk.

Post some more, Dirson, post some more.

We'll make you (in)famous, honest we will.

A Life Aloft
03-27-2011, 01:56 PM
And where exactly do young "rich" ponzi scammers stay (as they are making vast amounts of money for nothing) while in Vegas you may ask? Is it The Wynn? The Red Rock? The Bellagio? Ceasars? The Palazzo? Oh no......it's this exclusive and luxurious off the strip motel with only the finest of views and ammenities as they dine at the nearby elegant Circle K from the fine selection of pre-packaged sammies. Afterall, who needs a limo when you can walk across the parking lot and feast on a magnificent hot dog fit for a king.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoA2jnk-yfs&feature=channel_video_title

Soapboxmom
03-27-2011, 02:03 PM
Guys you all love me, I am so grateful.... LOL, its great, you post my videos, my posts, my everything.

Remember, I have facebook and Twitter too :D

You can comment there too.
I need to put some more videos on Youtube for you guys, you are my biggest fans
As a devoted fan, of course, I went to your Twitter account and reported you for spamming.

You do know LRM and I find you spamming youngsters quite amusing. Do you think we will just allow you to post smart aleck remarks endlessly so you can showcase your signature line?

Some scammers have come on here and learned their lessons the hard way. Needing more attention, laddie boy? You should join the Three Stooges. Len Clements, Kerry Lee Hein and Chris Doyle need other brave souls to valiantly take us on and defend "the industry."

Good luck, scammer!

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
03-27-2011, 02:07 PM
Overlooking the circle K and the industrial district. Truly the luxurious accomodations every successful person memorializes on video for posterity! Oh, if only all of us could enjoy his stunning success!!!

Soapboxmom

WishfulThinking
03-27-2011, 02:19 PM
Manolito, cielito lindo, keep 'em coming!

Every time you post, you discredit Fortune 2X2 far better than any humble anti fraud poster could ever do (and Club Hysteria or any other "business" you may be pimping.)

It's such a shame that poor Robert "can't control" who joins his business. lol

A Life Aloft
03-27-2011, 02:30 PM
Overlooking the circle K and the industrial district. Truly the luxurious accomodations every successful person memorializes on video for posterity! Oh, if only all of us could enjoy his stunning success!!!

SoapboxmomAnd to think of all the money my wife and I have wasted staying in a suite at the Wynn all these years and eating at the Alex, Fleur and Il Munio when we could have given our money to the young, well educated, successful, experienced businessman and accomplished entrepreneur, bon vivant Dirson aka Manolo here and made vast fortunes. Who knew? At least he and his buddies might have been able to afford actual shirts then instead of just swap meet tees and tanks. Sad loss for us all.

okosh
03-27-2011, 10:30 PM
Another review for you Osh:

TriVita - Is It A Scam? - LisaBarger.com (http://www.lisabarger.com/is-it-a-scam/trivita.html)

Plus, here the thread we had going with Willy boy on here til he tucked tail and ran, like all the scammers who come here eventually do:

http://www.realscam.com/f9/trivita-develop-relationship-god-184/

Thanks for the links and answered....Have replied in the Trivita thread:RpS_smile:

noeladams
03-31-2011, 07:41 PM
This Youtube channel is the real proof we have been all looking for....
After looking at it which you clearly didn't now everything is clear about FortuneDWB aka Fortune2x2.

Specially this one that explains the compensation plan : YouTube - strosdegoz&#39;s Channel (http://www.youtube.com/strosdegoz#p/a/u/0/H_dgp442v74)

Or Maybe this one talking about the product : YouTube - strosdegoz&#39;s Channel (http://www.youtube.com/strosdegoz#p/a/u/1/EyACBFKvti4) (In this one specially if you know Spanish you will realize is a news tv show about sport) but I guess Fortune2x2 is the same.

This one is definitely the proof relating, fortune2x2 with the end of the world in 2012... (See for yourself ) YouTube - $50,000 Car on Excalibur Casino, Las Vegas Nevada (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-hElnvCMxY)

Bottom line, if you have a youtube channel with videos about your friend coming on tv, or with your vacations footage then you mind end up in the Club-Asteria or Fortune2x2 thread.

ROFL!!!

P.S. I personally purchased myfortune2x2.com to promote fortune2x2, nothing to do with the company and MEF is a forum that I am barely familiar with...

Do I hear Drugs??? Anyone?


Thank you Strosdegoz for proving that the only thing that has been proven on this thread are false and baseless allegations.
Robert is far too busy and dignified to respond to all of the rumour spreading trash talkers out there.
I and thousands of other happy DWB members would HIGHLY recommend Fortune DWB to anybody looking for a legitimate home based
business.
For more info visit our team blog @ http://www.phpsuperbuild.com

Wishing Everybody Success,
Noel Adams
VERY HAPPY FDWB MEMBER

path2prosperity
04-03-2011, 06:54 PM
We have a new member who claims that Strosdegoz has proved the authenticity of this program. I am surprised that there have been no replies.

laidback
04-03-2011, 09:13 PM
We have a new member who claims that Strosdegoz has proved the authenticity of this program. I am surprised that there have been no replies.

I'm not sure any BS by strosdegoz or the obviously misinformed noeladams is worth responding to. As usual they make lame statements with no supporting evidence. Besides not publishing genuine contact info on their website and the obvious focus on recruiting instead of product distribution, (how does distributing "free" product generate money?) the following items fro their TOS should give pause to rational investors:


3. Terms and Conditions. We reserve the right to update, modify, add or change the terms and conditions without notice.

5. The membership of the user can be canceled anytime by the administrator without giving any reason.
Dealing with this outfit is begging to get shafted!

path2prosperity
04-07-2011, 05:53 AM
I and thousands of other happy DWB members would HIGHLY recommend Fortune DWB to anybody looking for a legitimate home based
business.
For more info visit our team blog @ http://www.phpsuperbuild.com

Wishing Everybody Success,
Noel Adams
VERY HAPPY FDWB MEMBER

I took a look at your blog and your choice of partners has a great deal to be desired.

QUOTE

The PHP Super Build Group, founded by Carl Haavaldsen and Noel Adams, has started what seems to be, the biggest trend in network marketing.

scratchycat
04-09-2011, 02:29 PM
WHOIS information for phpsuperbuild.com :

[Querying whois.verisign-grs.com]
[Redirected to whois.godaddy.com]
[Querying whois.godaddy.com]
[whois.godaddy.com]
The data contained in GoDaddy.com, Inc.'s WhoIs database,
while believed by the company to be reliable, is provided "as is"
with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This
information is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you
in obtaining information about domain name registration records.
Any use of this data for any other purpose is expressly forbidden without the prior written
permission of GoDaddy.com, Inc. By submitting an inquiry,
you agree to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty. In particular,
you agree not to use this data to allow, enable, or otherwise make possible,
dissemination or collection of this data, in part or in its entirety, for any
purpose, such as the transmission of unsolicited advertising and
and solicitations of any kind, including spam. You further agree
not to use this data to enable high volume, automated or robotic electronic
processes designed to collect or compile this data for any purpose,
including mining this data for your own personal or commercial purposes.

Please note: the registrant of the domain name is specified
in the "registrant" field. In most cases, GoDaddy.com, Inc.
is not the registrant of domain names listed in this database.


Registrant:
Carl Haavaldsen

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (Domain Names, Web Hosting and SSL Certificates - Go Daddy (http://www.godaddy.com))
Domain Name: PHPSUPERBUILD.COM

Domain servers in listed order:
NS69.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS70.DOMAINCONTROL.COM


For complete domain details go to:
Whois Lookup | Domain Availability - Registration Information (http://who.godaddy.com/whoischeck.aspx?Domain=PHPSUPERBUILD.COM)

Who is Carl Haavaldsen? (http://networkingwithcarl.blogspot.com/2009/02/who-is-carl-haavaldsen.html) From the man himself.

Money Earning Forum (http://www.moneyearningforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=168470)Here you will find your Strosdegoz, he is a senior member.

scratchycat
06-10-2011, 09:29 AM
Anyone have updates on Fortune 2x2??? I have observed that my friend has removed the banner from signature. Must be trouble in the making or already happened...

scratchycat
06-10-2011, 09:33 AM
I did find this latest comment from strosdegoz:


To all Fortune2x2 Members GREAT NEWS!!

As you can see the web site is temporarily down! The reason for this is because we are migrating our new system and will be unvieling a brand new back office for members, new corporate site, and a whole lot of other new features for you to capitalize on. That's right all new and improved just for our membership as we felt our current systems were not up to the standard we want for our members.

We have been developing this for over 2 months and have brought forward the release date as we are also rebranding to FortuneDWB.com once we roll it out.

With any new system it takes some time to migrate and test but but we expect to be live very soon.

We are holding a Webinar to give our membership further details this Wednesday and by now you should have received an invitation by email to this event.

The management are confident you will be very happy with the new FortuneDWB services and facilities.

Thank you for your patience..

MyFortune2x2 - myfortune2x2.com - Page 2 - Money Earning Forum - Sponsored By Lucky2bet.com (http://www.moneyearningforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=168470)

littleroundman
06-10-2011, 10:13 AM
Manolo aka strosdegoz aka Dirson E Jimenez posted that on Talkgold on March 10 2011. Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - Fortune2x2 - Fortune2x2.com (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4241653&postcount=52)

That was the last post in the Fortune 2x2 thread, so I think we can safely assume Fortune 2x2 has joined all of the programs promoted by Manolo aka strosdegoz aka Dirson E Jimenez in that great junk pile in the sky.

littleroundman
07-26-2011, 10:51 PM
In answer to anyone who is still vaguely interested in the fortunes of Fortune 2 X 2:

Cue Freddy Mercury & Queen:

"Another One Bites the Dust"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo&feature=player_detailpage

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/f2x2.jpg

www.fortunedwb.com (http://www.fortunedwb.com/)

okosh
07-27-2011, 02:35 AM
LOL...So Stroz backed another loser??....Hahahahaha