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EagleOne
01-11-2011, 04:27 PM
An interesting development on the Talk Gold forum. They used to allow differing opinions on the program threads. Then suddenly they started deleting posts, moving them to off-topic threads, or to the war zone; that is if you are a 'troll, naysayer or negative poster.' Now if they don't like your post they give you 5 warning points for the post and ban you forever. I guess the shills are complaining they can't recruit enough people due to all the "Trolls," "Naysayers," and "Negative People" posting exposing these scams.

Seems the mod tick-tack thinks that anyone posting against a program is somehow affiliated with me or Eagle, which is not the case, but then when did facts ever stop a mod who promotes scams from thinking differently?

I had not posted for over a week, and I got 5 warning points for a post I had made some 8 days earlier so they could ban me. tick-tack even admitted on the open forum he was looking for a way to ban me and others of my little group. I made an appeal to another mod to see what, if anyting, would be done, so it will be interesting to see the reply I get. Not expecting much, but had to try.

So if anyone has any factual dirt on TG/MMG, the mods, the owner, Brian (Yes I know he claims he sold the TG forum, I just don't believe it), please send it to me. Anything is greatly appreciated. I think it is time to turn the heat up on TG/MMG and their mods. Hopefully you agree and can help us.

Soapboxmom
01-11-2011, 05:48 PM
My Sympathies! Those HYIP forums are a nightmare. I remember blogging about Prosperity Automated Systems on one of them before the SEC shut them down of course. I got posts deleted and edited all over the place. I got lectured by the Mods and jumped on by all sorts of idiots who were claiming to be wildly successful with that joke of an opportunity. Imagine how quiet it got when the dang scam got shut down. :RpS_scared:

Soapboxmom

EagleOne
01-12-2011, 03:57 AM
Thanks, but no sympathy needed. Just weird that all of a sudden they are stiffling exposure of these scams when before they allowed a discussion between the two sides. Not sure if they have new mods who are eyeball deep in these scams, but something changed, and it happened very quickly. Will be interesting to see how they will respond to my appeal.

What was really unusual is that tick-tack (a mod) stated openly that he was out to ban me permanently, as well as the others in "my group." Only problem is I don't have a "group" there. The first time a mod has openly stated on a public forum their intentions. Usually they just do it quietly so no-one knows what happened. He was actually bragging about what he was going to do.

They didn't like me exposing Club Asteria, and especially pointing out that cherryshares would soon collapse, which it did. They would delete posts, move them to other threads claiming they were off-topic, etc.. But when I opened up on Club Asteria, that's when tick-tack really got his underwear in a knot. :RpS_laugh:

But what was really weird is that JH, LRM and Okosh were posting far more incriminating things about Club Asteria than I was, and he wouldn't touch them, which is a good thing. They were more of a thorn in his side than I was. That's what was so weird about all of this.

Soapboxmom
01-15-2011, 10:25 PM
I got permanently banned! The scammers have taken that cesspool over and don't want us slowing down their recruiting. No notice, just zapped. I will hold that as a badge of honor in the highest degree.

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
01-15-2011, 11:26 PM
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The scammers lost another crap forum to advertise their scum bum deals on. That is the place where I exposed PAS. It was such a delight to watch the SEC shut that down.

No doubt Talkgold will disappear as well. Any legitimate posters asking penetrating questions and exposing the scammers get banned quite unceremoniously. When the scammers see their garbage is welcome the place will end up completely swamped with it!

Soapboxmom

laidback
01-16-2011, 09:44 AM
I got permanently banned! The scammers have taken that cesspool over and don't want us slowing down their recruiting. No notice, just zapped. I will hold that as a badge of honor in the highest degree.

Soapboxmom

Interesting...! What was their excuse for the ban! They hooked Eagle and me for alleged MPD with no supporting proof.

Soapboxmom
01-16-2011, 10:54 AM
Boy I am so vicious. Calling Broker out on his fabrications here (http://www.oceansidenetwork.com/trolls/). No doubt Gain Capital will do worse than just call him out to thank him for all this negative publicity. Here is the e-mail I received:

You have been warned‏
1/15/11
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To soapboxmom@hotmail.com

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Dear soapboxmom,

You have been warned for one of your posts, which violated Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum Rules. The reason you have been warned is because :

Banned Permanently from Talkgold
(Warning Type = 'Permanent Ban')

For this violation, you have been given 5 point(s).
The point(s) will remain in your account for 99999 days.
After that, they will be removed automatically.

The post for which you are warned can be seen here:

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Oh, thank you! Jungle Hunter, you clarified that beautifully.

Broker, as other clowns have, apparently thought he should make up some wild criminal allegations to gain sympathy. The martyr routine is a poor way to conduct business.

Remember any clown can make up all sorts of stories about as one, but these must actually be produced in court. You, The Extortion Buster, claimed, "You threaten, cuss and swear and use demeaning language and lies to get your point across." Where??? I have always remained rated G.

One defending themself need only prove their statements were truthful, factual and opinion and bye, bye Mr. Scammer filing said frivolous suit.

Now, back to the topic. Here are a few examples of clients lists:

http://www.7ft4.com/clientlist.php (http://<a href="http://www.7ft4.com/clientlist.php" target="_blank">http://www.7ft4.com/clientlist.php</a>)

http://www.jonesday.com/aboutus/clientlist/ (http://<a href="http://www.jonesday.com/aboutus/clientlist/" target="_blank">http://www.jonesday.com/aboutus/clientlist/</a>)

http://www.mediafuturist.com/client-list.html (http://<a href="http://www.mediafuturist.com/client-list.html" target="_blank">http://www.mediafuturist.com/client-list.html</a>)

Now, Broker could certainly put one of those on his site and share it here!

Soapboxmom
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The admin/moderator who warned you, entered this comment:

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Banned Permanently from Talkgold
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Your total Warning Level at the moment is: 5 point(s).

If you reach the maximum of 5, you will be banned from the Forums, for 30 days.

To see details about all the warnings you have received, until now, please click here:

Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/Warn.php?do=ViewMyWarnings)

Please reply back if you have a dispute.

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Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum Team

laidback
01-16-2011, 02:44 PM
Boy I am so vicious. Calling Broker out on his fabrications here (http://www.oceansidenetwork.com/trolls/). No doubt Gain Capital will do worse than just call him out to thank him for all this negative publicity. Here is the e-mail I received:

You have been warned‏
1/15/11
http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/uxp/w4/m4/pr014/is/invis.gif Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum (http://by130w.bay130.mail.live.com/mail/InboxLight.aspx?FolderID=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000001&fav=True&n=1382668423#)

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Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum
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To soapboxmom@hotmail.com

From:Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum (talkgoldadmin@gmail.com)Sent:Sat 1/15/11 10:09 PMTo: soapboxmom@hotmail.com

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Dear soapboxmom,

You have been warned for one of your posts, which violated Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum Rules. The reason you have been warned is because :

Banned Permanently from Talkgold
(Warning Type = 'Permanent Ban')

For this violation, you have been given 5 point(s).
The point(s) will remain in your account for 99999 days.
After that, they will be removed automatically.

The post for which you are warned can be seen here:

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Oh, thank you! Jungle Hunter, you clarified that beautifully.

Broker, as other clowns have, apparently thought he should make up some wild criminal allegations to gain sympathy. The martyr routine is a poor way to conduct business.

Remember any clown can make up all sorts of stories about as one, but these must actually be produced in court. You, The Extortion Buster, claimed, "You threaten, cuss and swear and use demeaning language and lies to get your point across." Where??? I have always remained rated G.

One defending themself need only prove their statements were truthful, factual and opinion and bye, bye Mr. Scammer filing said frivolous suit.

Now, back to the topic. Here are a few examples of clients lists:

http://www.7ft4.com/clientlist.php (http://<a href="http://www.7ft4.com/clientlist.php" target="_blank">http://www.7ft4.com/clientlist.php</a>)

http://www.jonesday.com/aboutus/clientlist/ (http://<a href="http://www.jonesday.com/aboutus/clientlist/" target="_blank">http://www.jonesday.com/aboutus/clientlist/</a>)

http://www.mediafuturist.com/client-list.html (http://<a href="http://www.mediafuturist.com/client-list.html" target="_blank">http://www.mediafuturist.com/client-list.html</a>)

Now, Broker could certainly put one of those on his site and share it here!

Soapboxmom
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The admin/moderator who warned you, entered this comment:

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Banned Permanently from Talkgold
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Your total Warning Level at the moment is: 5 point(s).

If you reach the maximum of 5, you will be banned from the Forums, for 30 days.

To see details about all the warnings you have received, until now, please click here:

Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/Warn.php?do=ViewMyWarnings)

Please reply back if you have a dispute.

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Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum Team

Yep, pretty much the e-mail I got,then when I pushed Geoff, he came up with MPD. What is with those clowns that they can't clearly and openly state why the ban and who took the action. I guess facts at TG are like Kryptonite to Superman...! I notice their favorite dog, Buster plods along, even though it is likely that he is a true MPD case. Oh, he....errrr well!

baylee
01-16-2011, 07:49 PM
Boy I am so vicious. Calling Broker out on his fabrications here (http://www.oceansidenetwork.com/trolls/). No doubt Gain Capital will do worse than just call him out to thank him for all this negative publicity. Here is the e-mail I received:

You have been warned‏
1/15/11
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To soapboxmom@hotmail.com

From:Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum (talkgoldadmin@gmail.com)Sent:Sat 1/15/11 10:09 PMTo: soapboxmom@hotmail.com

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Dear soapboxmom,

You have been warned for one of your posts, which violated Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum Rules. The reason you have been warned is because :

Banned Permanently from Talkgold
(Warning Type = 'Permanent Ban')

For this violation, you have been given 5 point(s).
The point(s) will remain in your account for 99999 days.
After that, they will be removed automatically.

The post for which you are warned can be seen here:

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Oh, thank you! Jungle Hunter, you clarified that beautifully.

Broker, as other clowns have, apparently thought he should make up some wild criminal allegations to gain sympathy. The martyr routine is a poor way to conduct business.

Remember any clown can make up all sorts of stories about as one, but these must actually be produced in court. You, The Extortion Buster, claimed, "You threaten, cuss and swear and use demeaning language and lies to get your point across." Where??? I have always remained rated G.

One defending themself need only prove their statements were truthful, factual and opinion and bye, bye Mr. Scammer filing said frivolous suit.

Now, back to the topic. Here are a few examples of clients lists:

http://www.7ft4.com/clientlist.php (http://<a href="http://www.7ft4.com/clientlist.php" target="_blank">http://www.7ft4.com/clientlist.php</a>)

http://www.jonesday.com/aboutus/clientlist/ (http://<a href="http://www.jonesday.com/aboutus/clientlist/" target="_blank">http://www.jonesday.com/aboutus/clientlist/</a>)

http://www.mediafuturist.com/client-list.html (http://<a href="http://www.mediafuturist.com/client-list.html" target="_blank">http://www.mediafuturist.com/client-list.html</a>)

Now, Broker could certainly put one of those on his site and share it here!

Soapboxmom
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The admin/moderator who warned you, entered this comment:

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Banned Permanently from Talkgold
=======================================

Your total Warning Level at the moment is: 5 point(s).

If you reach the maximum of 5, you will be banned from the Forums, for 30 days.

To see details about all the warnings you have received, until now, please click here:

Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/Warn.php?do=ViewMyWarnings)

Please reply back if you have a dispute.

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Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum Team

I have two points left and have been exposing Buster in the oceanside thread so we shall see what happens next.

baylee
01-19-2011, 07:01 PM
I am quickly losing points at TG my lastest just answering Buster and I take it buster didn't like it complained. I

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Dear baylee,

You have been warned for one of your posts, which violated Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum Rules. The reason you have been warned is because:

Posting a topic or reply in a folder or thread unrelated to that topic.
(Warning Type = Off Topic Post)

For this violation, you have been given : 1 point(s).
The point(s) will remain in your account for 30 days.
After that, they will be removed automatically.

The post for which you are warned can be seen here:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Extortion Buster View Post
From elsewhere:


I can assure you I still have all my clothes on!
I sincerely hope so as I don't imagine it would be a pretty sight.
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The admin/moderator who warned you, entered this comment:

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Posting a topic or reply in a folder or thread unrelated to that topic.
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Your total Warning Level at the moment is: 2 point(s).

If you reach the maximum of 5, you will be banned from the Forums, for 30 days.

To see details about all the warnings you have received, until now, please click here.

Please reply back if you have a dispute.

littleroundman
01-19-2011, 07:27 PM
Nah,

it's not because of "Buster"

There's either a rogue Mod acting behind the scenes or, as mentioned on another thread the "fix" has been put in place by management.

The interesting thing is how the "system" of warnings has changed, in that the ID of the mod who is supposed to have issued the warning is not given.

Methinks the wagons may be circling in TalkGold-land.

littleroundman
01-19-2011, 07:42 PM
Thinking about it,

if the worst thing that happens to someone this year is losing points or being banned on an internet HYIP ponzi forum, then everyone involved is in for an excellent 2011.

Soapboxmom
01-19-2011, 07:59 PM
It is a badge of honor! MMG should be kicking me to the curb shortly!

Soapboxmom

baylee
01-19-2011, 08:05 PM
Thinking about it,

if the worst thing that happens to someone this year is losing points or being banned on an internet HYIP ponzi forum, then everyone involved is in for an excellent 2011.

You are right and I am starting to believe the best way to do things is after I decide it is a scam, fill out the complaint form to StopFraud.gov - Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force (http://www.stopfraud.gov/)
It only takes a minute and you don't need standing to file. After filing they send you back a case number.

littleroundman
01-19-2011, 08:24 PM
You are right and I am starting to believe the best way to do things is after I decide it is a scam, fill out the complaint form to StopFraud.gov - Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force (http://www.stopfraud.gov/)
It only takes a minute and you don't need standing to file. After filing they send you back a case number.

EXACTLY !

And, if you know where it's based, the local police, the CFTC and NFA if it's forex based, Homeland Security if it has obvious money laundering, the SEC for securities based fraud.

Include as many links and information as possible, use the online complaint forms where applicable, otherwise emails with your real name and details included,

Then, the same again the following week


and the following week,


ditto for the next week.

Forum posting is for fun and/or mental stimulation

the REAL work happens elsewhere and most people will be pleasantly surprised at just how effective they can be with very little effort.

baylee
01-19-2011, 08:56 PM
EXACTLY !

And, if you know where it's based, the local police, the CFTC and NFA if it's forex based, Homeland Security if it has obvious money laundering, the SEC for securities based fraud.

Include as many links and information as possible, use the online complaint forms where applicable, otherwise emails with your real name and details included,

Then, the same again the following week


and the following week,


ditto for the next week.

Forum posting is for fun and/or mental stimulation

the REAL work happens elsewhere and most people will be pleasantly surprised at just how effective they can be with very little effort.

The NFA is more than ready to accept E-Mails about scam programs as I received a phone call from their enforcement division and given a contact for further scams after I sent them a complaint.

baylee
01-19-2011, 09:12 PM
EXACTLY !

And, if you know where it's based, the local police, the CFTC and NFA if it's forex based, Homeland Security if it has obvious money laundering, the SEC for securities based fraud.

Include as many links and information as possible, use the online complaint forms where applicable, otherwise emails with your real name and details included,

Then, the same again the following week


and the following week,


ditto for the next week.

Forum posting is for fun and/or mental stimulation

the REAL work happens elsewhere and most people will be pleasantly surprised at just how effective they can be with very little effort.

The NFA is more than ready to accept E-Mails about scam programs as I received a phone call from their enforcement division after I sent them an E-Mail with links about a program and was given a contact for further scams after I sent them a complaint. ( TG's International Forex for soliciting U S clients)

littleroundman
01-19-2011, 09:30 PM
The NFA is more than ready to accept E-Mails about scam programs as I received a phone call from their enforcement division after I sent them an E-Mail with links about a program and was given a contact for further scams after I sent them a complaint. ( TG's International Forex for soliciting U S clients)

HeHeHe,

Nice, friendly and helpful people, aren't they ????

Soapboxmom
01-19-2011, 09:50 PM
After making the necessary complaints, I can assure folks that postings on these type of anti-scam forums makes a real impact. Nothing like a scammer crying about how my posting made it impossible for them to continue in their scheme. It realy warms my heart when they emote.

Soapboxmom

littleroundman
01-19-2011, 10:00 PM
It is all too fashionable to attack the agencies involved in protecting the public from fraudsters, ESPECIALLY when their hands are generally tied by their political masters, budgetary restraints, under staffing, general apathy and the enormity of the task.

My experience, however, is that what can be and is achieved with public co operation is remarkable and I have been continually impressed by the level/s of attention available to those who file genuine complaints and/or information.

okosh
01-19-2011, 11:48 PM
I got permanently banned! The scammers have taken that cesspool over and don't want us slowing down their recruiting. No notice, just zapped. I will hold that as a badge of honor in the highest degree.

Soapboxmom

Well I doubt there is an active poster at TG with more warnings and temp bans then me....Roughly a couple of dozen warnings and close to 10 temp bans....

I view EVERY one of them as a badge of honor :RpS_thumbsup:

okosh
01-19-2011, 11:55 PM
Nah,

it's not because of "Buster"

There's either a rogue Mod acting behind the scenes or, as mentioned on another thread the "fix" has been put in place by management.

The interesting thing is how the "system" of warnings has changed, in that the ID of the mod who is supposed to have issued the warning is not given.

Methinks the wagons may be circling in TalkGold-land.

I have it on good authority that the order did in fact come from Brian....(if my info came from any higher up it would have been from Brian himself)....

When a number of us enter the one thread like happened in Club Asteria that is seen as "trolling"....

Sure some mods like ticktack and forum Nazi Joseph do seem to be abusing their positions but IMO they are just the chosen ones to do the dirty work....

A snip of what was said to me....


Mods are well aware that some members seem to somehow 'pick out' a program and go in to their thread and repeat the same thing virtually over and over, with others following their lead.

There are thousands of threads at any given moment, and most of us can't understand how one program gets selected for special treatment.

littleroundman
01-20-2011, 12:45 AM
There are thousands of threads at any given moment, and most of us can't understand how one program gets selected for special treatment.

One wouldn't have to be a Rhodes scholar to work out that it's usually the HYIPs which go out of their way to rope in newbies with their B/S which come to the attention of "naysayers"

Who cares what the HYIP ponzi players do with their money ???

HOWEVER, when a HYIP "game" becomes downright fraud and innocents are targeted, we have a whole new ball game, at least IM(very)HO.

"most of us can't understand" my a**

Most of us DON'T WANT TO understand would be closer to the truth.

As my sainted ol' mum used to say: "It's all good fun till somebody gets hurt"

Eddie Haskell
01-20-2011, 11:20 PM
I have it on good authority that the order did in fact come from Brian....(if my info came from any higher up it would have been from Brian himself)....

When a number of us enter the one thread like happened in Club Asteria that is seen as "trolling"....

Sure some mods like ticktack and forum Nazi Joseph do seem to be abusing their positions but IMO they are just the chosen ones to do the dirty work....

A snip of what was said to me....

This does not surprise me at all. Its like that place changed over night. Obviously, I have had a difficult time adjusting since Im banned at the moment again. :RpS_laugh:
I wonder what is so bad about having a different point of view that always turns out to be right that prompted Brian to hammer everybody so hard? Advertisers complaining maybe? Its so obvious what they are doing that its pathetic.

Soapboxmom
01-20-2011, 11:36 PM
A big hearty Texas welcome to you! Talkgold has turned into a scammers' paradise. Glad to have all the fine scambusters booted from there joining us here. Start all the threads about those oppportunities here you heart desires and we will see if the promoters have the courage to spar with us here!

Soapboxmom

A Life Aloft
01-21-2011, 01:18 AM
Well, to me it look like their loss and our happy gain! Welcome to all the new posters from there.

okosh
01-21-2011, 02:08 AM
Talkgold has turned into a scammers' paradise.

It always has been....The only thing that's really changed in my 5+ years there is the mods and how much of a say the mods let nay-sayers have....
How far we get to expose the scammers and their lies has gone up and down over time....
Right now we at a low point but it won't last forever...
Worth remembering that it was the tortoise and not the hare that won the race...
We just need to keep on keeping on...

This month TG celebrated it's 8th anniversary....
And after 8 years TG is still the #1 choice for scammers....

Edit to add....
And I just celebrated my 2nd badge of honor for the year :RpS_laugh:

Soapboxmom
01-21-2011, 10:17 AM
The creeps that own that scammers paradise have a real quandry on their hands. Without the controversy the scammers can sell their programs unmolested, but without that contorversy the reads and amount of traffic will drop significantly. Folks love to watch a good fight. I would know about that. Just where is Broke Boy anyway????

:RpS_laugh:

Soapboxmom

GlimDropper
01-21-2011, 12:50 PM
Let me second SBM's welcome. It seems we all have a common "hobby," telling people the things a certain type of promoter doesn't wish for them to know. Talkgold may be making it harder for the truth to be told but that's not exactly the same thing as shutting us up, now is it? We just might need to take a move deliberative tact.

I had an elementary school teacher who, in retrospect was somewhat countercultural (or as much as she could be with third graders). They didn't let her teach us Hippy protest songs so she adapted, it wasn't until I started studying the trade union protest movements years later that I realized I already knew several of their songs by heart. A line from The Ballad of Joe Hill comes to mind, "and that which they forgot to kill, went on to organize."

laidback
01-21-2011, 01:38 PM
The creeps that own that scammers paradise have a real quandry on their hands. Without the controversy the scammers can sell their programs unmolested, but without that contorversy the reads and amount of traffic will drop significantly. Folks love to watch a good fight. I would know about that. Just where is Broke Boy anyway????

:RpS_laugh:

Soapboxmom
Precisely! All you have to do to confirm that is to look at MyScamForum, Mutt Nunn's place. He chased us out last year and his Alexa went from 20,000 to over 100,000 in a matter of weeks. Of course some of that had to do with him being eyeball deep in a couple of scams that he suckered "friends" into.

Eddie Haskell
01-21-2011, 03:34 PM
Ever notice how talk gold get uber sensitive when somebody gets in a paid sticky thread to expose a scam? Its my understanding that the mods dont get paid but there are two of them (names escape me at the moment) that run a scam hyip monitor. Conflict of interest maybe? You betcha. The hypocrisy runs deep there and its all about money.

okosh
01-21-2011, 06:07 PM
The creeps that own that scammers paradise have a real quandry on their hands. Without the controversy the scammers can sell their programs unmolested, but without that contorversy the reads and amount of traffic will drop significantly. Folks love to watch a good fight. I would know about that. Just where is Broke Boy anyway????

:RpS_laugh:

Soapboxmom

So where will the traffic go??...MMG??....Makes no diff as both TG and MMG are same owners/management....


Ever notice how talk gold get uber sensitive when somebody gets in a paid sticky thread to expose a scam? Its my understanding that the mods dont get paid but there are two of them (names escape me at the moment) that run a scam hyip monitor. Conflict of interest maybe? You betcha. The hypocrisy runs deep there and its all about money.

That would be hyipregulate owned by ticktack and NAN(NotaNewbie)...Both been mods at TG for years....NAN being by far one of the better mods at TG...Ticktack has of late gone off the rails some what....

littleroundman
01-23-2011, 10:32 PM
Maybe it's just my perverted sense of humour at work, but I find it both funny and sad reading the pronouncements of the HYIP apologists who have been left remaining after the latest naysayer purge by TG management.

Two posters in particular, with the usernames of "Jenaya" and "The Extortion Buster" would appear to be either the worst shills in history or two true believers about to receive the shock of their lives when reality bites as to the true nature of the HYIP ponzi games they're playing and defending.

The two kids appear to have some sort of previous connection and remain idealistically attached to the idea/s that the ponzi games they're shilling for MIGHT be the one true business in the arena, naysayers have no actual "proof" that any of the blatantly obvious red flags are, in fact "true," that naysayers are disenchanted former players and the supposed credentials of those named as founders are real.

As I said, simultaneously funny and sad.

laidback
01-23-2011, 11:32 PM
Maybe it's just my perverted sense of humour at work, but I find it both funny and sad reading the pronouncements of the HYIP apologists who have been left remaining after the latest naysayer purge by TG management.

Two posters in particular, with the usernames of "Jenaya" and "The Extortion Buster" would appear to be either the worst shills in history or two true believers about to receive the shock of their lives when reality bites as to the true nature of the HYIP ponzi games they're playing and defending.

The two kids appear to have some sort of previous connection and remain idealistically attached to the idea/s that the ponzi games they're shilling for MIGHT be the one true business in the arena, naysayers have no actual "proof" that any of the blatantly obvious red flags are, in fact "true," that naysayers are disenchanted former players and the supposed credentials of those named as founders are real.

As I said, simultaneously funny and sad.

The only reason they haven't been busted for MPD is that the mods aren't looking hard enough.Buster has apparently been "playing" for years and Jenaya may have a relationship with him from his website, I don't remember the name right off. Okosh has it.Jenaya has admitted being in P2P. Busters forum is Cyberdog Money Forum:http://www.cyberdogforum.com/

okosh
01-23-2011, 11:56 PM
Hope you all realize that when it comes to Aussies that ass-wipes like buster are the exception and not the rule :RpS_wink:

littleroundman
01-24-2011, 12:13 AM
HeHeHe,

if they ARE shills with MPD, they need to go and do the "PonziPimps 101" refresher course, because they're really, really bad at it.

When playing HYIP ponzi games, being on the naysayer team means you can't possibly lose.

Especially when the opposition team is so untalented and undermanned.

Once a naysayer realizes that "winning" a forum debate means nothing, then all he or she has to do is keep poking the shills in the ego and waiting for the inevitable to happen.

sigh

Oh for the old days, when at least there was a chance of not having seen the same ol' same ol' arguments being rehashed over and over.

PunkyG, JohnnyGee, JLPicard and NelsonNeaves, where are you now ???

These days, the only fun now is placing bets on:

a) When the HYIP game du jour disappears
b) which of the usual suspect excuses it will use
c) whether or not the shills will stay around
d) if they use the "I was conned too" routine or just disappear up their own anal pore, never to be seen again.

Eddie Haskell
01-24-2011, 03:46 AM
Pardon me, but what is MPD? I see member Joe Hill was banned today. I hope it wasnt for making too much sense. I gotta agree that these are two sorry shills for CA. The damage is already done and evidently neither has had a math class. Buster, why dont you and your friend register over here? Would love to have you both.

okosh
01-24-2011, 04:24 AM
Pardon me, but what is MPD?

It's a TG term created by Pluggy who used to be a great mod looooong ago...

MPD=Multiple Personality Disorder....Meaning more than one user name :RpS_smile:

laidback
01-24-2011, 09:40 AM
Pardon me, but what is MPD? I see member Joe Hill was banned today. I hope it wasnt for making too much sense. I gotta agree that these are two sorry shills for CA. The damage is already done and evidently neither has had a math class. Buster, why dont you and your friend register over here? Would love to have you both.

Any clue who he was, or their excuse for the ban?

GlimDropper
01-24-2011, 09:56 AM
Any clue who he was, or their excuse for the ban?


:RpS_wink:


Dear Joe Hill,

You have been warned for one of your posts, which violated Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum Rules. The reason you have been warned is because :

Banned Permanently from Talkgold
(Warning Type = 'Permanent Ban')

For this violation, you have been given 5 point(s).
The point(s) will remain in your account for 99999 days.
After that, they will be removed automatically.

The post for which you are warned can be seen here:

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I can't say for sure that C-A has absolutely no revenue other than peoples membership fees but I think it's an overwhelmingly safe thing to say that almost all of the money C-A takes in is either members monthly fees or money they trade for extra Asterios. Gee, what ever could be the problem with that? Well quite simply the promise is that you can take more money out than you put in but if the only (or near only) money available for those pay outs comes from what people pay in, some people, perhaps a great number of them, have to lose money in order for a few to make that profit.

Some people enjoy playing ponzi games and God bless them, they know the deal, they pay their money and take their chances. It's little different than a casino to them, granted a real casino gives you free drinks and in a real casino you very seldom have to worry if the building will disappear before you can cash in you chips. How many veteran Internet ponzi players had cash in a program when the admin up and vanished like a fart in the wind? I bet you wished you were sitting in a real casino sipping free drinks when that happened, am I right?

To someone joining C-A the question isn't if C-A will be paying next month or even the month after. Look at the pay plan. If you join as a gold member today and pay your $19.95 each month it will be what, better than 11 months before you break even? Math isn't my strong suit so please correct me if I'm wrong and accept my thanks for having done so. So it isn't so much an question of will C-A be up and running next month, for many, if not most the question is will it be up and running next year?

The answer to that weighs heavily on my previous questions, outside of inclusion in the pay plan what of marketable value is Club Asteria selling? The E-Books are crap, coaching and mentoring, at least in this context are almost always a scam and if Mr.Needham could sell his capture pages and auto responders on the open market, he wouldn't be giving them away as a gold member perk. Hell, even such an experienced and veteran internet marketer as DRdave never mentions any of C-A's "ancillary services" in his recruiting posts. Correct me if I'm wrong, and I really mean that, but C-A is only selling the opportunity to join a money game and these games always seem to end at some point. And as a wise man once said in his forum signature they usually seem to end just after you put your money into them. All newcomers please take note!
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The admin/moderator who warned you, entered this comment:

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Banned Permanently from Talkgold
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baylee
01-24-2011, 11:12 AM
According to Joesph, all who were in there last night were given warnings.

Eddie Haskell
01-24-2011, 11:19 AM
:RpS_wink:

LOL:RpS_laugh: at least now Buster may get some sleep. That thread has gone downhill quickly for the shills and pimps. Nice going GD.:RpS_thumbsup: There are always proxies and other user names for the next time. :RpS_wink:

Ever notice how the low level shills do the dirty work and pimps like Ken Russo stay out of the fight to save his (ahem) reputation as a marketer? Russo markets hope, lies, ponzis, illegal activities, pyramids, scams, hoaxes, frauds, and generally misleads others for his benefit. His reputation, if you want to call it that, stinks like a fart passing through an onion.

GlimDropper
01-24-2011, 11:41 AM
Ever notice how the low level shills do the dirty work and pimps like Ken Russo stay out of the fight to save his (ahem) reputation as a marketer? Russo markets hope, lies, ponzis, illegal activities, pyramids, scams, hoaxes, frauds, and generally misleads others for his benefit. His reputation, if you want to call it that, stinks like a fart passing through an onion.

I wonder how organized they really are? I mean Eddie makes a good observation, Ken doesn't lower himself into the fray and he never addresses any questions. There are other people to take care of that. But is it deliberate or is it just a matter of ponzi players banding together to keep the realists from scaring off the marks?

And how is the game played there? I got four, polite and on topic posts off before they banned me. How do you guys keep living to post another day (at least as much as you do)?

baylee
01-24-2011, 02:37 PM
I wonder how organized they really are? I mean Eddie makes a good observation, Ken doesn't lower himself into the fray and he never addresses any questions. There are other people to take care of that. But is it deliberate or is it just a matter of ponzi players banding together to keep the realists from scaring off the marks?

And how is the game played there? I got four, polite and on topic posts off before they banned me. How do you guys keep living to post another day (at least as much as you do)?

I have been there for two years and this is the worst I have ever seen it. They are banning anyone they wish (as long as it is a Nay-Sayer) with no regard for the rules.
In my estimation it has all come down to "money" plain and simple. The pimps are complaining and revenue for the owners and mods/hyip monitor owners (their are some mods who are hyip monitors owners also) is falling way off. I don't notice as many banners and stickeys either.

okosh
01-24-2011, 07:08 PM
And how is the game played there? I got four, polite and on topic posts off before they banned me.

You would not have been banned for the content of the posts....MPD or being a returned banned member would be the most likely reason....

It's funny how the shills and those posting "I got paid" can come back with a new name for every scam but those making real posts are booted on site.....

littleroundman
01-24-2011, 07:24 PM
Many people are actually receiving multiple "nonsense" warnings from un-named mods

The warnings are nonsensical in the fact the warning has no relevance to the post at all, i.e. "off topic" warnings for posts which are clearly not "off topic"

So be it.

It's their forum and they can do with it as they wish.

I just took a quick look outside and, despite the number of people being targeted at TG, the sun's still shining, the birds are still singing, my herb garden is recovering from the heatwave, The Extortion Buster and Jenaya are STILL low quality shills and Club Asteria is STILL just another HYIP ponzi scam on a forum filled with HYIP ponzi scams.

IOW, who cares ????

baylee
01-24-2011, 07:36 PM
, The Extortion Buster and Jenaya are STILL low quality shills and Club Asteria is STILL just another HYIP ponzi scam on a forum filled with HYIP ponzi scams.



LOL, you're right the cyberdogs are over in the pound.

Mike!
01-24-2011, 07:52 PM
Banned Permanently from Talkgold
(Warning Type = 'Permanent Ban')

For this violation, you have been given 5 point(s).
The point(s) will remain in your account for 99999 days.
After that, they will be removed automatically.




That's almost 274 years for those keeping score at home. :RpS_scared:

baylee
01-24-2011, 08:32 PM
That's almost 274 years for those keeping score at home. :RpS_scared:

WoW, I don't think many people will live that long! :RpS_scared:

GlimDropper
01-24-2011, 08:35 PM
You would not have been banned for the content of the posts....MPD or being a returned banned member would be the most likely reason....

It's funny how the shills and those posting "I got paid" can come back with a new name for every scam but those making real posts are booted on site.....

Well, on one hand I honestly never have posted to that forum before. On the other hand I have no way of knowing if I was the first person to post there using the particular proxy I did. Doesn't seem likely but it is possible. Oh well, no real loss either way.

On a somewhat unrelated note, does anyone have any reasonable supposition as to why the ASA forum went dark? I'd love to believe it was due to some involvement with a legal investigation as may have been implied here (http://www.patrickpretty.com/2010/10/12/bulletin-asa-monitor-ponzi-and-criminals-forum-says-it-is-closing-threads-go-missing-en-masse-closure-coincides-with-undercover-operations-by-law-enforcement-and-usda-probe-of-mpb-today/) but I have no solid information either way. I'm sure it wouldn't take a very creative prosecutor to explain in court how what the owner and operators of TalkGold are doing meets at least several legal definitions of criminal conspiracy. The sad fact being that there are still so many much bigger crooks to deal with that the scam enablers of TG probably don't have much to worry about. One day perhaps.

baylee
01-24-2011, 09:30 PM
On a somewhat unrelated note, does anyone have any reasonable supposition as to why the ASA forum went dark? I'd love to believe it was due to some involvement with a legal investigation as may have been implied here (http://www.patrickpretty.com/2010/10/12/bulletin-asa-monitor-ponzi-and-criminals-forum-says-it-is-closing-threads-go-missing-en-masse-closure-coincides-with-undercover-operations-by-law-enforcement-and-usda-probe-of-mpb-today/) but I have no solid information either way. I'm sure it wouldn't take a very creative prosecutor to explain in court how what the owner and operators of TalkGold are doing meets at least several legal definitions of criminal conspiracy. The sad fact being that there are still so many much bigger crooks to deal with that the scam enablers of TG probably don't have much to worry about. One day perhaps.

There is such a thing as pecuniary responsibly that the owners have for their forums and mods. I remind the authorities of this every time I report a scam. I think they and the mods are just are responsible as the program admins and the cheerleaders.

okosh
01-25-2011, 01:03 AM
Well, on one hand I honestly never have posted to that forum before. On the other hand I have no way of knowing if I was the first person to post there using the particular proxy I did. Doesn't seem likely but it is possible. Oh well, no real loss either way.


Ahhh...So it was the proxy that screwed you....Had you used your own IP you may have been fine.....


On a somewhat unrelated note, does anyone have any reasonable supposition as to why the ASA forum went dark? I'd love to believe it was due to some involvement with a legal investigation as may have been implied here (http://www.patrickpretty.com/2010/10/12/bulletin-asa-monitor-ponzi-and-criminals-forum-says-it-is-closing-threads-go-missing-en-masse-closure-coincides-with-undercover-operations-by-law-enforcement-and-usda-probe-of-mpb-today/) but I have no solid information either way.

My guess would be that either it's cos the nay-sayers were kicking butt over there or because Jake the snake sold to an Aussie....
I would think that it would be easier to take action against such a forum here then it would be in the States....

path2prosperity
01-25-2011, 11:13 AM
I would think that it would be easier to take action against such a forum here then it would be in the States....

The authority that takes immediate action against crooked outfits in UK is Customs and Excise. If anybody with a VAT registration number is owed money by any organisation which they suspect of fraud, he or she should report the matter to Customs and Excise and they will take immediate action.

I was owed £2,000+ by an advertising agency who had tried to bribe one of their employees to give false evidence about me in court. The money which the person owed me included an amout owed for VAT. Customs went after the advertising agency and collected the money from the agency. They rerurned my part of the money which they collected on a few days but they took the advertising agent to a Crown Court.

laidback
01-25-2011, 04:53 PM
I see that the permanent ban on Joe Hill has been reduced to a ban. That should be protested since the posts were on topic, and not part of the flooding exchange. TG is getting more pathetic by the second.

baylee
01-25-2011, 05:06 PM
I see that the permanent ban on Joe Hill has been reduced to a ban. That should be protested since the posts were on topic, and not part of the flooding exchange. TG is getting more pathetic by the second.


"Le me be clear on this to all members. In this particular case the person cited has been unbanned. But, the mods here will be keeping a close eye from this point on for returning banned members, and those who are intent on causing trouble. Trolls will be warned or banned, and multiple IDs will be immediately banned with no appeal."


The bolding is mine but as laidback says It doesn't appear to be unbanned to me. Joe Hill Joe Hill is offline
Banned

Eddie Haskell
01-25-2011, 08:12 PM
On a somewhat unrelated note, does anyone have any reasonable supposition as to why the ASA forum went dark? I'd love to believe it was due to some involvement with a legal investigation as may have been implied here but I have no solid information either way.

Traffic had tanked for one thing. I think to this day Jake the snake still had control over it and called the shots. I would like to think the feds were closing in on him also. I got in some good punches at TG calling it the "crime forum" and google picked it up. :RpS_smile: Truthfully, thats was it was. Jake had his greedy paws into everything. It pretty much ran its course and the only people left were nay sayers and Ken Russo and his pimp gang like Jim Goohs who went by Jim Walks Simply. There were others of course. The naysayers were really thrashing them at the end. I was banned over there but took my shots at TG back when it was allowed.

laidback
01-25-2011, 08:29 PM
"Le me be clear on this to all members. In this particular case the person cited has been unbanned. But, the mods here will be keeping a close eye from this point on for returning banned members, and those who are intent on causing trouble. Trolls will be warned or banned, and multiple IDs will be immediately banned with no appeal."


The bolding is mine but as laidback says It doesn't appear to be unbanned to me. Joe Hill Joe Hill is offline
Banned

The cowards at TG are using anything they can to get rid of anybody they think associates with Eagle, to the point where the mod or mods are lying and manufacturing evidence to get the job done. They can't discredit the truth, therefore they have to stifle it. Ever wonder why the definition of trolling includes, "trying to discredit a program"...?

Eddie Haskell
01-25-2011, 08:51 PM
The cowards at TG are using anything they can to get rid of anybody they think associates with Eagle, to the point where the mod or mods are lying and manufacturing evidence to get the job done. They can't discredit the truth, therefore they have to stifle it. Ever wonder why the definition of trolling includes, "trying to discredit a program"...?

Eagle has become radioactive because they fear him and their organization. TG is smart enough to know this is not some mickey mouse outfit that spews off every now and then. Eagle Research will flat out lay the smack down on people and are the best watch dog I have ever seen. It takes forever but it does happen.

They can bann away but they are being watched every second. They think this will just go away but they have thought wrong this time. Every naysayer I know at TG has either been banned, warned, or a combination of both. I know of one that might have slipped by. The majority are banned or on the edge of being banned or their posts dont show up and there is no explanation for any of it.

TG is on the ropes and this is how they react to a fair fight. They cheat. What comes around goes around my friends. They may have won this battle but we will win the war and cause more chaos than they can imagine.

Eddie Haskell
01-25-2011, 09:05 PM
I wonder how organized they really are? I mean Eddie makes a good observation, Ken doesn't lower himself into the fray and he never addresses any questions. There are other people to take care of that. But is it deliberate or is it just a matter of ponzi players banding together to keep the realists from scaring off the marks?

And how is the game played there? I got four, polite and on topic posts off before they banned me. How do you guys keep living to post another day (at least as much as you do)?

I still cant understand why Joe Hill was banned. He was making way too much sense. But thats how TG works these days. Its the talk gold crime forum now.

Russo is a top level pimp that does not allow himself into the fray. His job is to recruit as many suckers as possible. He wont get down in the dirt for a few reasons. One is that he has a target on his back and is trying to not incriminate himself any further. The second is obvious and he can not make a logical argument to the naysayers who call him out. Lita at TG called him out and he went silent just recently.

Russo makes general comments but never gets into specifics unless its to help a new sucker. I think he knows he is on the edge. Surely to God the feds know about him and his illegal activities. I imagine they are taking their time to build a case on him. Ken Russo is going down. Its not a matter of if but when. It will be the happiest day of my life when he gets arrested.

littleroundman
01-27-2011, 10:09 AM
That well known serial shill, "jambutty" has mysteriously returned to the fold at Talkgold after having being exposed and chased off by naysayers exposing his shenanigans.

He was forced into starting his own forum just so he could spread his mischief in peace: Golden Talk (http://91.206.227.135/index.html)

Now he's back doing business as usual on TG.

Coincidence ????


I think not.

littleroundman
01-27-2011, 10:34 AM
Surely to God the feds know about him and his illegal activities. I imagine they are taking their time to build a case on him. Ken Russo is going down.

My experience would indicate it's not likely, at least in the immediate future.

It's all too easy to be seduced into believing the B/S with which these guys surround themselves.

It's all in the numbers.

The population of the US currently stands at 320 MILLION + people.

The SEC has approximately 3,500 staff in total.

The FTC has 5 commissioners and approx 1200 staff.

IC3 freely admits it functions primarily as a database facility, not a investigative agency.

The FTC, SEC and FBI are primarily branches of the civil service, and are thus required to operate within the same politically driven staff and budgetary restraints as other public sectors.

Compounding their difficulties, their political masters have, in the past few years switched a great deal of the agencies' focus on to Homeland Security related matters, to the detriment of crime investigation, particularly WRT resource allocation.

It is common knowledge that most agencies have in place "red flag" mechanisms which are only triggered by numbers of complaints and/or amounts involved and NOT by popularity on forums or ease of prosecution.




There are around 4000 HYIPs on Talkgold and MMG alone.

There are how many shills ???
Using their real names ???
Based in the USA ???
Using untraceable offshore payment processors ???

And if they ARE, caught, then what ????

Eddie Haskell
01-27-2011, 10:50 AM
My experience would indicate it's not likely, at least in the immediate future.

It's all too easy to be seduced into believing the B/S with which these guys surround themselves.

It's all in the numbers.

The population of the US currently stands at 320 MILLION + people.

The SEC has approximately 3,500 staff in total.

The FTC has 5 commissioners and approx 1200 staff.

IC3 freely admits it functions primarily as a database facility, not a investigative agency.

The FTC, SEC and FBI are primarily branches of the civil service, and are thus required to operate within the same politically driven staff and budgetary restraints as other public sectors.

Compounding their difficulties, their political masters have, in the past few years switched a great deal of the agencies' focus on to Homeland Security related matters, to the detriment of crime investigation, particularly WRT resource allocation.

It is common knowledge that most agencies have in place "red flag" mechanisms which are only triggered by numbers of complaints and/or amounts involved and NOT by popularity on forums or ease of prosecution.




There are around 4000 HYIPs on Talkgold and MMG alone.

There are how many shills ???
Using their real names ???
Based in the USA ???
Using untraceable offshore payment processors ???

And if they ARE, caught, then what ????

YOu make a good point but this guy has a huge target on himself. Google him. Its time for the authorities to get up off their asses and go after him. Its not like he is some un known pimp. He is well known. Everybody knows who he is. This guy is a huge crook LRM. I doubt you will argue that.

Its there for the taking LRM. I want this guy to go down so bad you cant imagine. He is a one man wrecking machine. He needs to be stopped and locked up. Ken is being very careful these days with his posts. I think he knows he is on the edge and I think its a matter of time before he gets arrested. It cant come soon enough for me.

littleroundman
01-27-2011, 11:09 AM
Please don't misinterpret my post.

My point is that I don't think prosecution of even the most deserving shill such as Ken Russo is likely under the present circumstances.

That is not to suggest abandoning hope, just a recognition that certain realities need to change and/or be done differently if there's any hope of Russo and his like being brought to justice, at least in the foreseeable future.

I truly believe the power to affect change lies in the hands of the people and NOT in the hands of politicians of any persuasion.

Again, IM(very)HO, a positive outcome is NOT going to come from relying on an overstretched, underfunded and politically hamstrung "usual suspect" agency.

okosh
01-27-2011, 08:36 PM
That well known serial shill, "jambutty" has mysteriously returned to the fold at Talkgold after having being exposed and chased off by naysayers exposing his shenanigans.

He was forced into starting his own forum just so he could spread his mischief in peace: Golden Talk (http://91.206.227.135/index.html)

Now he's back doing business as usual on TG.

Coincidence ????

I think not.

Yes indeed James Buckley aka Jambutty has returned but that was some time ago and his posts are closely monitored by some people :RpS_wink:

He does not own Golden Talk....It's owned by Jeff who owns GoldPoll monitor....

GlimDropper
01-28-2011, 03:00 PM
Things are looking up, I received slight reprieve. Instead of being permanently banned now I'm only banned for 60 days. But wait, there's more. I was given a reason for having been banned:


Dear Joe Hill,

You have been warned for one of your posts, which violated Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum Rules. The reason you have been warned is because :

Mischievously manufacturing inflammatory opinions in an attempt to stir up disharmony and discord. Posting up a stream of off-topic drivel or being clumsily provocative.
(Warning Type = 'Trolling')

For this violation, you have been given 1 point(s).
The point(s) will remain in your account for 45 days.
After that, they will be removed automatically.

The post for which you are warned can be seen here:

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I can't say for sure that C-A has absolutely no revenue other than peoples membership fees but I think it's an overwhelmingly safe thing to say that almost all of the money C-A takes in is either members monthly fees or money they trade for extra Asterios. Gee, what ever could be the problem with that? Well quite simply the promise is that you can take more money out than you put in but if the only (or near only) money available for those pay outs comes from what people pay in, some people, perhaps a great number of them, have to lose money in order for a few to make that profit.

Some people enjoy playing ponzi games and God bless them, they know the deal, they pay their money and take their chances. It's little different than a casino to them, granted a real casino gives you free drinks and in a real casino you very seldom have to worry if the building will disappear before you can cash in you chips. How many veteran Internet ponzi players had cash in a program when the admin up and vanished like a fart in the wind? I bet you wished you were sitting in a real casino sipping free drinks when that happened, am I right?

To someone joining C-A the question isn't if C-A will be paying next month or even the month after. Look at the pay plan. If you join as a gold member today and pay your $19.95 each month it will be what, better than 11 months before you break even? Math isn't my strong suit so please correct me if I'm wrong and accept my thanks for having done so. So it isn't so much an question of will C-A be up and running next month, for many, if not most the question is will it be up and running next year?

The answer to that weighs heavily on my previous questions, outside of inclusion in the pay plan what of marketable value is Club Asteria selling? The E-Books are crap, coaching and mentoring, at least in this context are almost always a scam and if Mr.Needham could sell his capture pages and auto responders on the open market, he wouldn't be giving them away as a gold member perk. Hell, even such an experienced and veteran internet marketer as DRdave never mentions any of C-A's "ancillary services" in his recruiting posts. Correct me if I'm wrong, and I really mean that, but C-A is only selling the opportunity to join a money game and these games always seem to end at some point. And as a wise man once said in his forum signature they usually seem to end just after you put your money into them. All newcomers please take note!
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The admin/moderator who warned you, entered this comment:

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Mischievously manufacturing inflammatory opinions in an attempt to stir up disharmony and discord. Posting up a stream of off-topic drivel or being clumsily provocative.
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Your total Warning Level at the moment is: 6 point(s).

If you reach the maximum of 5, you will be banned from the Forums, for 60 days.



So my "trolling" point will drop off in 45 days leaving me with 5 warning points. Do my other 5 go away in 60 days? I'm just wondering how "mischievous" I can be and how often. I suspect some game theory analysis might be useful here. :RpS_biggrin:

okosh
01-28-2011, 05:31 PM
Things are looking up, I received slight reprieve. Instead of being permanently banned now I'm only banned for 60 days. But wait, there's more. I was given a reason for having been banned:



So my "trolling" point will drop off in 45 days leaving me with 5 warning points. Do my other 5 go away in 60 days? I'm just wondering how "mischievous" I can be and how often. I suspect some game theory analysis might be useful here. :RpS_biggrin:

Don't get too excited just yet...I don't see you being back in 60days....
Profile shows "Banned"....For you to be back it needs to show Temp Ban....

BTW...If you or anyone else got any spare warning points I could really use a loan till next month...

baylee
01-28-2011, 08:53 PM
Don't get too excited just yet...I don't see you being back in 60days....
Profile shows "Banned"....For you to be back it needs to show Temp Ban....

BTW...If you or anyone else got any spare warning points I could really use a loan till next month...

I have two and you can have both if needed, if the Nazi's will allow the transfer. Somehow I don't think they will.

okosh
01-28-2011, 11:39 PM
I have two and you can have both if needed, if the Nazi's will allow the transfer. Somehow I don't think they will.

Thanks mate very kind of you :RpS_thumbsup:

As for the Nazi(yes just one) lets bring everyone up to speed who may not know the history....

When Joseph first became a mod he was just a folder mod assigned to the hyip folder....
He worked hard and did a great job moving dead hyips to scam folder and in banning shills with numerous names...
Read more here...
CONGRATULATIONS to Moderator JOSEPH - Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showthread.php?t=257855&page=1)

After some time he was promoted to a Super-mod....the power went to his head....
Since then he has abused his mod power and literally turned into a forum Nazi....

Seriously?
01-29-2011, 06:48 AM
being clumsily provocative.
Can they give lessons on how to be smoothly provocative?

laidback
01-29-2011, 09:22 AM
Can they give lessons on how to be smoothly provocative?

Possibly, but the instructor is on a mission to stamp out intolerance...!

Doc Bunkum
01-31-2011, 08:10 PM
I've done my part to see if I can get banned over there.

I see I joined Join Date: Jun 2006 and have Posts: 2 .

Quality over quantity I always did say. :RpS_wink:

Eddie Haskell
02-01-2011, 05:25 AM
I've done my part to see if I can get banned over there.

I see I joined Join Date: Jun 2006 and have Posts: 2 .

Quality over quantity I always did say. :RpS_wink:

Be careful what you wish for. I got a warning one time for telling a mod he should give himself a warning.:RpS_laugh: Another time, I got a warning because my siggy said "if its listed at talk gold its a scam".

I just got back to town and see the usual suspect mods are baiting a few of the naysayers.


BTW...If you or anyone else got any spare warning points I could really use a loan till next month...

Love to help you mate but I have had a run on those of late and they are scarce in my part of the world.

Doc Bunkum
02-01-2011, 07:07 AM
Be careful what you wish for.



Well, that didn't take long!

You have been banned for the following reason:
No reason was specified.

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

And I thought I had tenure from being there so long. :RpS_sad:

Eddie Haskell
02-01-2011, 07:46 AM
Well, that didn't take long!

You have been banned for the following reason:
No reason was specified.

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

And I thought I had tenure from being there so long. :RpS_sad:

Wow.:RpS_ohmy: Maybe they are banning us for what we have said over here. I would not put it past them. On a lighter note your not the first nor will you be the last Doc. The crackdown continues. Sorry it happened so quick to you. Its piss poor of them to give no reason and who did it. Cowards. :RpS_mad:

littleroundman
02-01-2011, 10:08 AM
Its piss poor of them to give no reason and who did it. Cowards. :RpS_mad:

Let's be honest here.

Does anyone REALLY care ???

It's fun to bait people like Russo, tEB and Clayton Parker.

And it's slightly better than watching endless reruns of Gilligans' Island on TV.

But, when all is said and done, it's a bloody internet HYIP forum for chrissakes, it's not like any of it is real or any of it even matters.

To paraphrase Groucho Marx:

"Anyhow, I don't care to belong to any forum that will have me as a member"

Doc Bunkum
02-01-2011, 11:22 AM
Ha!

Looks like the Oceanside forum mods have a hard on for me too! :RpS_laugh:

Sorry. The administrator has banned your IP address. To contact the administrator click here

Oh, the ignominy of it all!

Being banned twice in the same day on two different forums! :RpS_cursing:

GlimDropper
02-01-2011, 11:56 AM
Aww, that's just too bad Doc. They just must not know you like we do. But then again.,....:RpS_tongue:

laidback
02-01-2011, 11:56 AM
Wow.:RpS_ohmy: Maybe they are banning us for what we have said over here. I would not put it past them. On a lighter note your not the first nor will you be the last Doc. The crackdown continues. Sorry it happened so quick to you. Its piss poor of them to give no reason and who did it. Cowards. :RpS_mad:

Well, we do know for a fact that Buster reads over here, so one would presume that they do, or Buster snitches,(something he CLAIMS he doesn't do)...! In the end analysis, LRM likely has the appropriate attitude.

laidback
02-01-2011, 11:58 AM
Ha!

Looks like the Oceanside forum mods have a hard on for me too! :RpS_laugh:

Sorry. The administrator has banned your IP address. To contact the administrator click here

Oh, the ignominy of it all!

Being banned twice in the same day on two different forums! :RpS_cursing:

Surely you can go for a hat trick and get banned from a third forum somewhere...!:RpS_laugh:

GlimDropper
02-01-2011, 12:06 PM
Well, we do know for a fact that Buster reads over here, so one would presume that they do, or Buster snitches,(something he CLAIMS he doesn't do)...! In the end analysis, LRM likely has the appropriate attitude.

Hey Buster, don't be shy, sign on up and say Houdy. We don't bite, well I don't at least.


Surely you can go for a hat trick and get banned from a third forum somewhere...!:RpS_laugh:

[Bad Cold War Soviet Accent] That arranged, can be. :RpS_wink:[/Bad Cold War Soviet Accent]

littleroundman
02-01-2011, 12:11 PM
[Bad Cold War Soviet Accent] That arranged, can be. :RpS_wink:[/Bad Cold War Soviet Accent]

Yoda was a Russian ????

path2prosperity
02-01-2011, 12:30 PM
Surely you can go for a hat trick and get banned from a third forum somewhere...!:RpS_laugh:

Try Adlandpro.

They banned me. When I reported that that is what Adpro had done, on Patrick's blog, I was miraculously reinstated. You could join them and get banned when you make your first post but if you remember to report the fact to Patrick, you might be immune to banishment from the community as I am.

It would be fun to see how long you could survive over there.

path2prosperity
02-01-2011, 01:22 PM
Traffic had tanked for one thing. I think to this day Jake the snake still had control over it and called the shots. I would like to think the feds were closing in on him also. I got in some good punches at TG calling it the "crime forum" and google picked it up. :RpS_smile: Truthfully, thats was it was. Jake had his greedy paws into everything. It pretty much ran its course and the only people left were nay sayers and Ken Russo and his pimp gang like Jim Goohs who went by Jim Walks Simply. There were others of course. The naysayers were really thrashing them at the end. I was banned over there but took my shots at TG back when it was allowed.

I may be able to throw some light on that.
-------------------------------------------------.

I saw a post on MMG over a year ago. Some naysayer had discovered some documentary evidence to show that both “Jake The Snake” and “Dr Mara” were aware that VLane security was already breached and that they were both aware the whole contents of VLane forum (something cafe?) would be in the hands of all the naysayers before long.

I was overjoyed to see this news, as I had been telling people that the stupid VLane forum leaked like a garden sieve for a long time. I copied and posted this news on every forum where naysayers were allowed a voice. I probably posted the news on TG but I definitely posted it on WLD and it remained there for a long time.

I also said that Jake and “Dr Mara’s” plan for a replacement forum was already set up. The Safelist had made an unexpected comeback and the owner Chad (can’t remember his surname) had a very special private area of his forum for VLane members. I had been telling Safelist members that Vee and Mara were a couple of con artists for a long time and I had been severely chastised by the owner for my alleagtions about these two honest business women.

Jake and Mara’s plan went belly up when another Safelist member flipped. Troy Barton who was an ex Kent Black mod and a trusted Safelist member, flipped and started a one man war against me, telling them about my mental illness and personality problems that had been diagnosed by Dr Mara. Chad made an effort to back Troy up in the belief that I was seriously mentally ill but not many Safelist members swallowed it.

Chad eventually closed The Safelist but he is back on MySpace. I have never joined MySpace but if anybody knows the truth about what was going on at ASA when Troy Barton threw a wobbly, it will be the owner of The Safelist.




Chad (Admin - The Safelist) on Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/thesafelist)

Doc Bunkum
02-01-2011, 02:47 PM
Surely you can go for a hat trick and get banned from a third forum somewhere...!:RpS_laugh:

Okay, thanks.... I did just that.

Back at talkgold...

Under a different user name...

A natural hat trick!

You have been banned for the following reason:
User received a Permanent Ban Warning and was permanently banned.

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

Now I'm pissed! :RpS_cursing:

(If you read their explanation, it doesn't make much sense to me.)

GlimDropper
02-01-2011, 03:48 PM
Yoda was a Russian ????

"On our side history is. Bury you we will."

[The small green khrushchev like creature then slips off it's shoe and begins pounding it on the table. Then it morphs into a TalkGold Mod and bans Doc yet another time.]

okosh
02-02-2011, 12:33 AM
Be careful what you wish for. I got a warning one time for telling a mod he should give himself a warning.:RpS_laugh: Another time, I got a warning because my siggy said "if its listed at talk gold its a scam".

I just got back to town and see the usual suspect mods are baiting a few of the naysayers.



Love to help you mate but I have had a run on those of late and they are scarce in my part of the world.

Thanks anyway mate....

Even with my extra large PM box at TG which holds 500 PM's rather than the usual 50 I still had to delete some to make room....

Just did a bit of a clean out but here is a sneak peak at my TG PM box :RpS_unsure:

BTW...due to popular demand I have just sent Buster an invite to join us here :RpS_smile:






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http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t193/okosh3466/warnings.jpg

EagleOne
02-02-2011, 05:57 PM
It has been a while since I last was here starting this thread, and so much has happened since to so many of you.

I pushed the appeal process because the original excuse given for my being banned was because of a post I made in reply to mrGSH, for which I was given 5 warning points. Those combined with my previous one point was what banned me; or so they initially said. I appealed the ban, and twelve days after my being banned, I received a reply telling me that the reason why was not because of my post, as I was first told, but because I have another username alternativeHYIP.

So back to the appeal process I went. I have never used another username other than LynnRE on TG, EVER. I had no reason to do so. Of course when I first joined, Eagle Research Associates wasn't even an idea or in development. It was almost 2.5 years later before the process to form Eagle was undertaken. That made me just a regular naysayer and troll, but not to be taken seriously.

I think what is releveant in all of this is that up until the middle of 2010, Eagle wasn't taken seriously by any of the forums, admins or mods. Then in mid-2010, we started having success in aiding in the shut-down of some major Ponzi's/Scams, and Pedro Dispenza/Peter Roor and his wife.

I think what triggered the all out attack to ban me was due to 4 specific Ponzi'Scams I exposed on MMG. When I showed up at TG and started adding to those already exposing cherryshares as a scam is when the warnings started. I was picking on one of their favorite scams de jour. And then when I joined in on CA, is when they decided enough was enough and I was banned. After all, ticktack made it very clear on the forum he was looking for "any" reason to ban me, real or not. At least he was honest enough to say so openly, which most mods do not have the guts to do.

They were mad there was a thread devoted to my book at TG, and then we had all of the attacks against me and Eagle by TEB, NAN, ticktack, and mrGSH now and then. So much for their not allowing attacks on other members. I think mrGSH couldn't make up his mind if he liked me or not, so he ran hot and cold at times. Now he seems to be on the side of not liking me, or maybe he misses me on the forum. :RpS_laugh::RpS_laugh:

What is truly bizzare in all of this is that my posts were mild compared to what others had already posted exposing both programs to be scams. They had posted far more substance than I had, and yet I was perceived as the real threat. That part is what surprised me and I found interesting. JungleHunter, Okosh, and LittleRoundMan had done far more damage exposing both of these programs than I ever did. I am just glad they haven't been banned, at least not yet. :RpS_laugh::RpS_laugh:

As for how major promoters are going to be treated in these scams the feds take down may be established with the ASD case. There is a law on the books called misprision of a felony, but up until now it has been used sparingly. But due to the economic damage these scams/Ponzi's are having today, I think this law will be dusted off and begin to be used in force. If you noticed the information in the press release by the take-down of ImperiaInvest IBC, they clearly stated that they are going after as many people as they can, not just the people behind the scam. They specifically mentioned accountants, attorneys, and insiders and promoters of the program. They also specifically mentinoed MMG, TG, and even ASA in this press release. In fact, both have been mentioned, along with ASA, in several other press releases of these Ponzi's when they are taken down. This has to be sending a tremor through the owners, admins and mods of these mentioned forums.

It is just my opinion, but I do think many major promoters in ASD are in for a rude surprise. Once the legal wrangling over the venue for Andy's criminal trial is over, and the feds have milked all the information they can from the players, then I expect to see more indictments handed down. Of course many of them will make plea deals, if they can, to keep themselves out of prison; which will hurt Andy's case. We don't know who all the feds have talked to, or who has turned on who; but we will one day.

It is clear there is no way my ban is going to be lifted, even when I have proved alternativeHYIP and myself are not the same posters. To do so would be political suicide for them. Besides, if they did, the very first post I made would ban me again permanently with no appeal; even if it was just to thank them for unbanning me. :RpS_laugh::RpS_laugh:

EagleOne
02-02-2011, 08:31 PM
I just wanted to add that I am fully aware that the more success Eagle had, the more I would be attacked. So this was expected.

It makes me feel really good that Eagle is now seen as a threat to all of them.

laidback
02-02-2011, 09:12 PM
I just wanted to add that I am fully aware that the more success Eagle had, the more I would be attacked. So this was expected.

It makes me feel really good that Eagle is now seen as a threat to all of them.

Lynn, I thought your supposed alter ego was 'artificial hyip'? If you do a google search on him, you find some of his old posts at TG from 2007.

okosh
02-02-2011, 11:55 PM
I appealed the ban, and twelve days after my being banned, I received a reply telling me that the reason why was not because of my post, as I was fist told, but because I have another username alternativeHYIP.


So 12 days is the official result....TwitTack must be slipping since it took him a whole 12 days to make the case of MPD against Lynn stick....

I had my money on 6 days so I didn't win...

Anyone who had 12 days can claim their prize at the office :RpS_laugh:

okosh
02-02-2011, 11:57 PM
Lynn, I thought your supposed alter ego was 'artificial hyip'? If you do a google search on him, you find some of his old posts at TG from 2007.

Actually joined in 2004....Post history only shows last 500 posts....
here is the oldest listed from 2006....
If you click on user name you can view other posts...
Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - DXShopping is almost here!! (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1435642&postcount=7)

EagleOne
02-03-2011, 12:50 PM
Hmm, something weird going on. I am still blocked from reading the TG forum from my computer, so I used my other computer to access the link provided by Okosh. Afterwards I made a post from that computer after logging in, but for some weird reason the post did not populate. So I hope it doesnt' magically show up later and make this a duplicate post.

I really like this guy. Only wish I could find him so I could let him know he was banned at TG as I am sure he has no clue why even after receiving their E-mail. I would love to talk to him or correspond by E-mail with him. I am sure he was shocked to learn of his being banned. He might want to really know why. The IP that we supposedly shared is located in Gardena, CA, which is about 65 miles from where I live. Of course he shows a Vanuatu address in his bio, but he does not come up in Vanuatu's phone directory or the address either.

Maybe when I have more time I will see if I can find this guy and have a chat. Now wouldn't that blow ticktack and the other mods minds! Especially if we both sent E-mails to them at the same time. Now that would be fun. :RpS_laugh::RpS_laugh:

littleroundman
02-03-2011, 05:52 PM
ArtificialHYIP was one of the posters who spoke out against the DXOne/DXSynergy/DXGold HYIP ponzi which ran from 2006 to 2007 and had its' own thread on Talkgold.

DX was supposedly based in Vanuatu, thus the reference in ArtificialHYIPs' profile.

It was run by an Australian named Mervyn Copperwaite and was one of serial shill Matt Gagnons' early efforts and pimped via Mazu.

No sense of history, this new generation of mods.

EagleOne
02-03-2011, 05:59 PM
ArtificialHYIP was one of the posters who spoke out against the DXOne/DXSynergy/DXGold HYIP ponzi which ran from 2006 to 2007 and had its' own thread on Talkgold.

DX was supposedly based in Vanuatu, thus the reference in ArtificialHYIPs' profile.

It was run by an Australian named Mervyn Copperwaite and was one of serial shill Matt Gagnons' early efforts and pimped via Mazu.

No sense of history, this new generation of mods.

Their mods have no sense.

okosh
02-03-2011, 07:41 PM
Their mods have no sense.

There is also a supermod who may have MPD....I don't have 100% proof but what I did find is rather serious evidence...
In other words would be hard for them to explain it away....

Edit to add...
Was 2 other names that I linked to this mod but one of them seems to be hard deleted....
Bookmarked the other name and took screenshots of the revelant posts :RpS_wink:

laidback
02-03-2011, 08:10 PM
There is also a supermod who may have MPD....I don't have 100% proof but what I did find is rather serious evidence...
In other words would be hard for them to explain it away....

Edit to add...
Was 2 other names that I linked to this mod but one of them seems to be hard deleted....
Bookmarked the other name and took screenshots of the revelant posts :RpS_wink:

Oh, I'm sure they'd come up with something like, "MEMBERS may only have one user name, mods and admins are not limited by this policy...!"

okosh
02-03-2011, 09:52 PM
Just a correction to my above post....
Searched through my files and did find the link to the other user name...And yes it's still there at TG....

So I now have evidence that strongly suggests that a TG supermod has at least 3 user names at TG....


There is also a supermod who may have MPD....I don't have 100% proof but what I did find is rather serious evidence...
In other words would be hard for them to explain it away....

Edit to add...
Was 2 other names that I linked to this mod but one of them seems to be hard deleted....
Bookmarked the other name and took screenshots of the revelant posts :RpS_wink:

artificial HYIP
02-13-2011, 09:41 PM
Hey, my ears were burning. Actually, I still do a Google search on ol' Merv now and then to see if there's anything new about him popping up - like an arrest. I came across this thread, then checked TG and sure enough I've been banned for life. Geez, they could be more considerate. I dare say my posting on the the old DX thread helped liven things up there. With Dx long deceased my scam busting days are over. But I was still checking in on TG irregularly and I follow Patrick Petty's blog. I keep wondering if other familiar DX related names, besides Matt Gagnon, will ever show up in an indictment.

LRM is right about my using Vanuatu as my location in my TG profile. I've never even been there, and don't know why I would as I lack a criminal operation to manage and I don't have enough money to bribe the gov't officials for anything. Vanuatu is quite the hive of scum and villainy.

Anyway, it's nice to be remembered. I'm sure I can live just fine without access to TG's forum, but there is something fishy about my being banned, especially at this point when I hardly log in anymore.

littleroundman
02-13-2011, 09:49 PM
LRM is right about my using Vanuatu as my location in my TG profile. I've never even been there, and don't know why I would as I lack a criminal operation to manage and I don't have enough money to bribe the gov't officials for anything. Vanuatu is quite the hive of scum and villainy.

EVERYTHING about Talkgold is, as you say, "fishy"

That is has achieved "frog-in-a-pot" acceptance belies the fact it is illegal, immoral and, quite probably fattening in every regard.

artificial HYIP
02-13-2011, 10:36 PM
They may have artificial HYIP confused with someone, but not the right someone. I can still log in under an, ahem, alternate username, which should have been banned along with artificial HYIP if they were really making the right connections and banning artificial HYIP for MPD.

Soapboxmom
02-13-2011, 10:39 PM
Hey, my ears were burning. Actually, I still do a Google search on ol' Merv now and then to see if there's anything new about him popping up - like an arrest. I came across this thread, then checked TG and sure enough I've been banned for life. Geez, they could be more considerate. I dare say my posting on the the old DX thread helped liven things up there. With Dx long deceased my scam busting days are over. But I was still checking in on TG irregularly and I follow Patrick Petty's blog. I keep wondering if other familiar DX related names, besides Matt Gagnon, will ever show up in an indictment.

LRM is right about my using Vanuatu as my location in my TG profile. I've never even been there, and don't know why I would as I lack a criminal operation to manage and I don't have enough money to bribe the gov't officials for anything. Vanuatu is quite the hive of scum and villainy.

Anyway, it's nice to be remembered. I'm sure I can live just fine without access to TG's forum, but there is something fishy about my being banned, especially at this point when I hardly log in anymore.
Well, welcome to the honored to be banned club. It is with the utmost pride and humility I myself wear that badge of honor.

I hope you will feel very welcome here. Scambusting is in the blood. I hope you will feel revitalized and contribute here.

Soapboxmom

laidback
02-13-2011, 10:47 PM
They may have artificial HYIP confused with someone, but not the right someone. I can still log in under an, ahem, alternate username, which should have been banned along with artificial HYIP if they were really making the right connections and banning artificial HYIP for MPD.

Well, realizing that they were desperate to get rid of EagleOne, you had an ID that hadn't been used in a while and was convenient to their (ahem) deception. Their problem is they were caught in a lie and know it, but can't go back and admit it, just like all the ponzis they advertise have to lie to get "investors"...! Oh BTW glad to meetcha.

okosh
02-13-2011, 10:54 PM
Hey, my ears were burning. Actually, I still do a Google search on ol' Merv now and then to see if there's anything new about him popping up - like an arrest. I came across this thread, then checked TG and sure enough I've been banned for life. Geez, they could be more considerate. I dare say my posting on the the old DX thread helped liven things up there. With Dx long deceased my scam busting days are over. But I was still checking in on TG irregularly and I follow Patrick Petty's blog. I keep wondering if other familiar DX related names, besides Matt Gagnon, will ever show up in an indictment.

LRM is right about my using Vanuatu as my location in my TG profile. I've never even been there, and don't know why I would as I lack a criminal operation to manage and I don't have enough money to bribe the gov't officials for anything. Vanuatu is quite the hive of scum and villainy.

Anyway, it's nice to be remembered. I'm sure I can live just fine without access to TG's forum, but there is something fishy about my being banned, especially at this point when I hardly log in anymore.

So was it you that posted under that name in early december 2010??....
Cos if it wasn't then TwitTack got some explaining to do.....

Welcome to the forum :RpS_smile:

littleroundman
02-13-2011, 11:08 PM
I can predict what TwitTacks' explanation will be without having to wait for a response.

He'll blame the JOOS or homo-THEX-uals or illoom...err....ilumi....err....konspir....err...d irty rotten, lowdown, rich bastards who secretly control the worlds' financial system.

artificial HYIP
02-13-2011, 11:16 PM
So was it you that posted under that name in early december 2010??....
Cos if it wasn't then TwitTack got some explaining to do.....

Welcome to the forum :RpS_smile:

I posted a brief comment in December about Dave Bennett's current make money online program. Logged in maybe once since then until tonight when I discovered I was banned.

laidback
02-14-2011, 12:08 AM
I posted a brief comment in December about Dave Bennett's current make money online program. Logged in maybe once since then until tonight when I discovered I was banned.

My thought is you should challenge them on the ban. It won't get you unbanned but it will rub their faces in their lie... jmvho.

artificial HYIP
02-14-2011, 04:58 PM
I've contacted TG about my banning. We'll see what happens.

littleroundman
02-16-2011, 06:08 AM
Hmmn,

it seems Talkgold may be under DDoS attack AGAIN

It's been returning "database error" and "connection to the server was reset" messages all day.

Either that, or one of the mods has "accidentally" deleted the forum.

Eddie Haskell
02-16-2011, 06:33 AM
Either that, or one of the mods has "accidentally" deleted the forum.


:RpS_lol::RpS_lol: Now that was funny!

Been down for me all day also. No telling whats happened this time.

laidback
02-16-2011, 09:57 AM
Seems to be working fine for me now.

okosh
02-17-2011, 04:06 AM
Hmmn,

it seems Talkgold may be under DDoS attack AGAIN

It's been returning "database error" and "connection to the server was reset" messages all day.

Either that, or one of the mods has "accidentally" deleted the forum.

Naaaa....Joseph only deletes individual threads at the admins request...Wonder what he charges for the service??....

So just to recap....
We got one mod deleting threads by request....
Another who invents MPD so he can ban those he don't like....
And a 3rd mod who looks to have at least 3 user names....

The things that make ya go Hmmmmmm :RpS_unsure:

littleroundman
02-17-2011, 10:20 AM
Naaaa....Joseph only deletes individual threads at the admins request...Wonder what he charges for the service??....

So just to recap....
We got one mod deleting threads by request....
Another who invents MPD so he can ban those he don't like....
And a 3rd mod who looks to have at least 3 user names....

The things that make ya go Hmmmmmm :RpS_unsure:

And all of the mods sending warning notices to anyone whose post doesn't include the usual "I got paid" nonsense.

I don't know about anyone else, but if I'm not welcome there, so be it.

It's no skin off my nose.

okosh
02-17-2011, 05:20 PM
And all of the mods sending warning notices to anyone whose post doesn't include the usual "I got paid" nonsense.

I don't know about anyone else, but if I'm not welcome there, so be it.

It's no skin off my nose.

So the answer is to walk away and leave the scammers with a free ride to scam as they please??....

littleroundman
02-17-2011, 06:01 PM
So the answer is to walk away and leave the scammers with a free ride to scam as they please??....

Not at all.

IM(very)HO the answer is to get smarter, work harder and think outside the box.

I have never believed that, other than in the case of the "next big thing" HYIPs such as the PIPS/12DP/ASD types, naysayers are reaching many newbies.

In my observation, forums such as Talkgold and MMG attract a far greater number of confirmed "players" who are unlikely to be effected by naysayers, than they do "newbies" anyway.

littleroundman
02-17-2011, 08:06 PM
As I see it, the current situation at Talkgold means naysayers are in 1 of 2 positions:

They are either banned or have accumulated so many nonsense warnings they are about to be banned.

In either case, they are not in a position to do much of anything.

It's Brians' forum with which he can do what he wishes.

Having said that, it's also banned posters' right to do as THEY wish.

To me at least, the current Talkgold policy indicates they've had enough of "playing innocent" and have decided to take the gloves off and get serious.


Doesn't sound like a bad policy, to me.

Eddie Haskell
02-18-2011, 01:06 AM
I would like to notify the public that I am unofficially unbanned at the Talk Scam ponzi Form. What a great day! I cjould not give a F less. Take your scam forum and stick it up your ass twit tack. I know you ass hats are reading this forum. You are too scared not to. You are' cowards also not to post. My waring points are excessive so I cant post but what does it matter? IM one post from a breath to get tossed out once again. Real Scam is picking up speed but we have not forgot about you ass holes at and the mods at Talk Scam. You picked on the wrong bunch this time. Go to strait to hell all of you. Im not taking it back. I mean it. No reason to mince words.


See you bastards in hell. I hate you all. No reson to lie about it.

Now, lets see some Talk Scam rep come in here. They are Cowards. Hammer down and lets pour the coal to them. Im not letting up. Bring it on. IM sitting on ready. Those chicken shits are too afraid including Brian K. that own The scam forum know as Talk gold. Man, I have been on the phone today about scams and you cam up.

laidback
02-18-2011, 10:02 AM
LOL, don't sugar coat it Eddie, let them know how you REALLY feel...! They won't come here to post because the FACTS are on our side and they have no ban-button.

Eddie Haskell
02-18-2011, 11:08 AM
LOL, don't sugar coat it Eddie, let them know how you REALLY feel...! They won't come here to post because the FACTS are on our side and they have no ban-button.

May as well let the dogs out becasue I know Im as good as gone anyway. :RpS_laugh:
Its what I really think so screew them. YOur right about them coming here. We will Eat them alive for their scamming ways. They have no hope. I did make one post but may get banned yet again for it. :RpS_laugh:

I really dont give a flying flip to be honest. Talk scam is trash. Its really gone down hill. Hey Twit, I know your reading this, why not come into the real frey? PUssy? I thought so. And ther you have it. Talk Scam mods are pussies and hypocrytes.

laidback
02-18-2011, 12:51 PM
I just did a check of status and LynnRe and artificialhyip have been changed to "banned" from "permanently banned". Why aren't these lowlifes removing the ban totally? If the ban is for MPD and the MPD has proven false, now what feeble pathetic excuse do they have? Can you spell hypocrites with a capital H...? SHEESH!

baylee
02-18-2011, 06:33 PM
I just did a check of status and LynnRe and artificialhyip have been changed to "banned" from "permanently banned". Why aren't these lowlifes removing the ban totally? If the ban is for MPD and the MPD has proven false, now what feeble pathetic excuse do they have? Can you spell hypocrites with a capital H...? SHEESH!

What and admit to lying. Of course if their fingers are moving they are lying and most reasonable people know this.

baylee
02-18-2011, 08:48 PM
May as well let the dogs out becasue I know Im as good as gone anyway. :RpS_laugh:
Its what I really think so screew them. YOur right about them coming here. We will Eat them alive for their scamming ways. They have no hope. I did make one post but may get banned yet again for it. :RpS_laugh:

I really dont give a flying flip to be honest. Talk scam is trash. Its really gone down hill. Hey Twit, I know your reading this, why not come into the real frey? PUssy? I thought so. And ther you have it. Talk Scam mods are pussies and hypocrytes.

LOL, I don't think buster likes you much Eddie! I am so sorry for that after all "busher, err, buster" :Fiddler:

WishfulThinking
02-18-2011, 09:57 PM
Not at all.

IM(very)HO the answer is to get smarter, work harder and think outside the box.

I have never believed that, other than in the case of the "next big thing" HYIPs such as the PIPS/12DP/ASD types, naysayers are reaching many newbies.

In my observation, forums such as Talkgold and MMG attract a far greater number of confirmed "players" who are unlikely to be effected by naysayers, than they do "newbies" anyway.

You are about 200% right LRM. I dont think people even find TG, MMG, and all the rest of the ponzi pushing boards unless and until they are seriously promoting a scam and trying to become professional internet marketers (whatever those really are) Newbies hang around on Facebook, MySpace, Apsense, AdlandPro, and other social type forums and generally just "google" for information.

Eddie Haskell
02-18-2011, 11:48 PM
You are about 200% right LRM. I dont think people even find TG, MMG, and all the rest of the ponzi pushing boards unless and until they are seriously promoting a scam and trying to become professional internet marketers (whatever those really are) Newbies hang around on Facebook, MySpace, Apsense, AdlandPro, and other social type forums and generally just "google" for information.

I think you are right and I have been missing the boat. So how do you combat this? YOu can still reach some at the Talk Scam ponzi forum but I know there are a lot out there that we cant reach. I think the answer or at least one of them is to attack and shut down the ponzi processors. Cut the money off. There is not one answer I know but I think this is a big one.

The next thing is to prosecute and lock up the pimps. This would send shock waves about the ponzi world. I dont have all the answers and dont pretend to. These are just my thoughts at the moment. I hate scams as much if not more than the next guy. Im looking for suggestions.

The real key is to go to the main stream media and I know of one member that is working on this. If it comes to pass it will be huge. Plaster Talk Scam on Fox news and they will become a vilan (and thats what they are) and people will crucify them. Advertisers will pull out ect........ We need national media attention.

littleroundman
02-19-2011, 12:46 AM
So how do you combat this?

There's simply no one answer to your question, Eddie.

The problem is complex and very little is known as to what "really" goes on behind the scenes.

* I firmly believe it is impossible for any non government agency to know who is REALLY behind this billion dollar underground "industry"
Think about it, there are between 3 and 5000+ HYIP ponzis around at any given moment,

We know that Andy Bowdoin was a real person.....that's one.....

* Does anyone know with 100% certainty that "Brian Krasnostein" even exists, other than on screens ???

* Does anyone know with absolute certainty who owns Talkgold and/or its' corporate structure ??

* Talkgold has existed for how long now ? Eight years ??? Does anyone know with absolute certainty that it isn't so structured so that law enforcement agencies simply CAN'T touch it, or that to do so would cost squillions ???

* Is it at all possible that it's been judged that a deliberate policy of allowing Talkgold and MMG to continue operating has been judged to be of greater strategic value than closing them down and scattering the "industry" ???

* As a strictly personal observation, I believe it's easy to become so involved in the "industry" that one can start to believe that Talkgold and its' like really ARE the center of the universe as they and the "playas" like to portray themselves.

IM(very)HO the forums are merely symptoms of a far greater disease, and not the "disease" itself.

Without doubt they are facilitators, but I believe the really dangerous frauds and/or HYIPs i.e. the AdSurf Daily, Legisi, CEP, PIPS type multi million dollar scams would have existed anyway.

okosh
02-19-2011, 07:52 AM
* Does anyone know with 100% certainty that "Brian Krasnostein" even exists, other than on screens ???


Yes....



* Does anyone know with absolute certainty who owns Talkgold and/or its' corporate structure ??

No........But it's bloody obvious that Brian still owns it....


* Talkgold has existed for how long now ? Eight years ??? Does anyone know with absolute certainty that it isn't so structured so that law enforcement agencies simply CAN'T touch it, or that to do so would cost squillions ???

TG went online Jan 2003....No such thing as set up so that it's "untouchable"....
Just ask Al Capone...


* Is it at all possible that it's been judged that a deliberate policy of allowing Talkgold and MMG to continue operating has been judged to be of greater strategic value than closing them down and scattering the "industry" ???

Yes....

okosh
02-19-2011, 08:05 AM
I would like to notify the public that I am unofficially unbanned at the Talk Scam ponzi Form. What a great day! I cjould not give a F less. Take your scam forum and stick it up your ass twit tack. I know you ass hats are reading this forum. You are too scared not to. You are' cowards also not to post. My waring points are excessive so I cant post but what does it matter? IM one post from a breath to get tossed out once again. Real Scam is picking up speed but we have not forgot about you ass holes at and the mods at Talk Scam. You picked on the wrong bunch this time. Go to strait to hell all of you. Im not taking it back. I mean it. No reason to mince words.


See you bastards in hell. I hate you all. No reson to lie about it.

Now, lets see some Talk Scam rep come in here. They are Cowards. Hammer down and lets pour the coal to them. Im not letting up. Bring it on. IM sitting on ready. Those chicken shits are too afraid including Brian K. that own The scam forum know as Talk gold. Man, I have been on the phone today about scams and you cam up.

Sorry to see you throw in the towel mate :RpS_unsure:

path2prosperity
02-19-2011, 12:16 PM
You are about 200% right LRM. I dont think people even find TG, MMG, and all the rest of the ponzi pushing boards unless and until they are seriously promoting a scam and trying to become professional internet marketers (whatever those really are) Newbies hang around on Facebook, MySpace, Apsense, AdlandPro, and other social type forums and generally just "google" for information.

Thanks for that information WT. I was asked to open a thread here about Adlandpro so I have copied and pasted your comment on the RT Adlandpro thread. The manalo/strosdegoz video maker Carl Haavarldson was a "Lord of Adlandpro" for a while but even the newbies don't follow him for long. Latest purveyor of lies over there is old timer and trusted member Matthias Kroon

Eddie Haskell
02-20-2011, 12:59 PM
Eddie Haskell is back at Talk Scam. I May not last long since Im one screw up from being banned yet again but Im back. With recent events I could not hlep but comment in the WZ section. These bastards need to be called out. It may well be my last post for all I know.

littleroundman
02-21-2011, 06:45 AM
Sorry to see you throw in the towel mate :RpS_unsure:

I don't know I'd classify deciding to not post at Talkgold under the present circumstances as "throwing in the towel"

It seems pointless to me to for naysayers to continue to post when the mere act of posting ANYTHING produces a ban and/or a warning.

I certainly can't speak for anyone else, but all it makes me do is bite my back teeth and do what I do X 2, just not on Talkgold.

okosh
02-21-2011, 06:52 AM
Eddie Haskell is back at Talk Scam. I May not last long since Im one screw up from being banned yet again but Im back. With recent events I could not hlep but comment in the WZ section. These bastards need to be called out. It may well be my last post for all I know.

LOL...You gone let the cat out of the bag :RpS_laugh:

And just look at the BS Joseph is posting about me.....No way do they ever wanna reply to your post as they know that what I got exposes one of their own to a posible perm ban offence and shows just what hypocrits some of them are....

Eddie Haskell
02-21-2011, 09:06 AM
LOL...You gone let the cat out of the bag :RpS_laugh:

And just look at the BS Joseph is posting about me.....No way do they ever wanna reply to your post as they know that what I got exposes one of their own to a posible perm ban offence and shows just what hypocrits some of them are....


IM tired of their crap and they need to be called out. You can drop the bomp when you feel free to. I just wanted them to know we had a big one. You know as well as me they are reading this and worried and thinking about it. Banning Lynne is another thing they need to be thinking about because they are again caught in a mess.

Talk Gold is a scam by itself and needs little help. We got them and thanks to Okosh its going to make it look even worse. TG, you are busted and you just dont know how bad yet.

those bastards wont bann me over here. Too bad for them.

path2prosperity
02-21-2011, 01:30 PM
IM tired of their crap and they need to be called out. You can drop the bomp when you feel free to. I just wanted them to know we had a big one. You know as well as me they are reading this and worried and thinking about it. Banning Lynne is another thing they need to be thinking about because they are again caught in a mess.

Talk Gold is a scam by itself and needs little help. We got them and thanks to Okosh its going to make it look even worse. TG, you are busted and you just dont know how bad yet.

those bastards wont bann me over here. Too bad for them.

They will avoid confrontation with you Eddie! I have met several mercurial personalities on the "net" but when you explode the after effects last and upset some people like a few ASA members for a long long time. An Eddie explosion could be described, in the words of another person whom I hope willl join soon, as a fart in a space suit which will never go away!

Carry on farting over there Eddie!

okosh
02-22-2011, 01:03 AM
They will avoid confrontation with you Eddie! I have met several mercurial personalities on the "net" but when you explode the after effects last and upset some people like a few ASA members for a long long time. An Eddie explosion could be described, in the words of another person whom I hope willl join soon, as a fart in a space suit which will never go away!

Carry on farting over there Eddie!

He is really getting up their nose over there...So much so that Eugene has singled eddie out for a ban....
You'll notice that he don't ask the reff-whore-shills for proof of payment....

baylee
02-22-2011, 08:44 PM
He is really getting up their nose over there...So much so that Eugene has singled eddie out for a ban....
You'll notice that he don't ask the reff-whore-shills for proof of payment....
And the head Liar joesph is still after you.

okosh
02-22-2011, 09:44 PM
And the head Liar joesph is still after you.

I make a lot of allowences for those who don't use English as their first language....
In the case of Joseph I have put up with more then I should but I am tollerant of him due to his lack of understanding of the English language....
LOL...I even wore a 2 day ban cos he misunderstood my posts in the now deleted Insta-forex thread....Any other mod would have seen that I did comply with his request...

Worth noting that Joseph was not always the power hungry asshole or "forum-Nazi" that he is today....
B4 he became a mod his user name was "TalkGoldMen".....Back then I saw him as a straight up player....Never did the reff-whore thing or post that a ponzi is the real deal like Ken Russo does....
I got along with him well back then and actually stuck up for him a couple of times in the threads when he was attacked....
But he really changed when he was promoted from a folder mod to a super mod...

Even in this deleting of threads business I gave him the benefit of the doubt and took him at his word....First deleted thread we knew about was the Clayton thread....
I accepted that he'd made an honest mistake...
But since then he has admitted to deleting a bunch of threads so this can no longer be seen as an honest mistake...
You can read his confession here....
Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - TalkGold now deleting threads??.... (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4198945&postcount=12)

Also worth noting that there has been talk some time ago of Joseph being a past scam admin...
Never seen proof that it was actually him so I don't know for sure....
One of our other members here may be willing to share more about it....

Doc Bunkum
02-23-2011, 10:43 AM
You can read his confession here....
Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - TalkGold now deleting threads??.... (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4198945&postcount=12)



Unfortunately, that link doesn't do much good to those of us who have had their asses banned over there.:RpS_sad:

laidback
02-23-2011, 11:55 AM
Unfortunately, that link doesn't do much good to those of us who have had their asses banned over there.:RpS_sad:

Have you gone in and deleted the TG cookies out of your browser? (This might not work if you have a static IP, you might have to turn your router off and back on)

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Talking Re: TalkGold now deleting threads??....
Because of hard work by spam removal
I removed also sometimes later another sticky thread in hyip folder, and some not sticky's too...
So why so care about this one, or you just like pay attention of admins about of my hard work here
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artificial HYIP
02-23-2011, 10:21 PM
Hi all. Just thought I'd pop in and let you know I've contacted TG twice about my banning and have gotten no response. Guess they don't want to admit that they called this one wrong.

littleroundman
02-23-2011, 10:56 PM
Hi all. Just thought I'd pop in and let you know I've contacted TG twice about my banning and have gotten no response. Guess they don't want to admit that they called this one wrong.

It's called "revenge"

They're finally exacting retribution for your speaking out against GDT/DXSynergy/DXinone/DXevery-bloody-thing and helping expose that one of their favourite sons, young "Bomber" was, in fact, a shill who famously admitted after several years of posting on Talkgold:


GDT wasn't happy with all the talk about the Hotel...They asked DX4All to de-rail all discussion about the hotel...As I was the unofficial TG rep of DX4All, much of the de-railing over there was left to me."

laidback
02-24-2011, 12:08 AM
Hi all. Just thought I'd pop in and let you know I've contacted TG twice about my banning and have gotten no response. Guess they don't want to admit that they called this one wrong.

Why am I not surprised...?

baylee
02-28-2011, 08:04 PM
The Head Lair of TG has spoken again. It is so much fun watching the Head Lair joesph trying to bury his tracks! :Fiddler:



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I have already posted more then enough proof that you are just a dregs of the earth, low life Pinocchio
That's why you not only Liar but also imbecile

Let me know how many days you like for vacation 2 - 7 - 30
Or maybe forever?

Well, now on.
You must provide proof of fallowing of yours stupid statements or you get banned here for lying... on one way or another.

1. Mod deleting threads at the admins request.
2. Some of super mode has MPD here
3. Some mod invents MPD so he can ban those he don't like.
4. Brian runs both TG and MMG.
5. mrGSH don't ask the reff-whore-shills for proof of payment... but only yours stupid friends

Not all of your lies and fake statements but enough... each ones by single topic.

As per imbecile, you must provide detailed statement from your doctor.
If so, I will call you only stupid liar and not Medicine imbecile

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Default Re: Bloody 'ell.......
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Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
That's why you not only Liar but also imbecile

Let me know how many days you like for vacation 2 - 7 - 30
Or maybe forever?

Well, now on.
You must provide proof of fallowing of yours stupid statements or you get banned here for lying... on one way or another.

1. Mod deleting threads at the admins request.
2. Some of super mode has MPD here
3. Some mod invents MPD so he can ban those he don't like.
4. Brian runs both TG and MMG.
5. mrGSH don't ask the reff-whore-shills for proof of payment... but only yours stupid friends

Not all of your lies and fake statements but enough... each ones by single topic.

As per imbecile, you must provide detailed statement from your doctor.
If so, I will call you only stupid liar and not Medicine imbecile


"Just what was expected from you." I don't think the Nazi joesph likes okosh for some reason.
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That's why you not only Liar but also imbecile (etc.)

Me tak it dis mun no speek inglush gud. Muss be a furner.

Whip
02-28-2011, 09:43 PM
Is his name "Jah-seph"? Reads like one of his ridiculous rants.

Eddie Haskell
02-28-2011, 11:00 PM
Seems like the mods over there are getting a bit testy again. :RpS_smile: Now Okosh, you play nice with them and quit embarrassing them. :RpS_wink:

I see that Twit has mentioned me, P2P, Baylee, and LRM in one of his posts. I guess he does not like us. :RpS_lol: Oh well. We are part of the Okosh team of haters and naysayers according to twit tack. :RpS_laugh::RpS_laugh: These guys are starting crumble and come unglued as bad a Charlie Sheen.

littleroundman
02-28-2011, 11:48 PM
"Starting" ?????

Ticky has been a racist, anti semitic, homophobic, xenophobic, white supremacist, anarchist nut-job for as long as I can remember.

And that's on top of the fact he's a moderator on a forum defending illegal HYIPs, more and more of which are masquerading as charities and/or supporters of humanitarian projects.

I'll bet Ticky doesn't get too many Christmas presents after Santa calculates "who's been naughty or nice"

okosh
03-01-2011, 03:24 AM
"Just what was expected from you." I don't think the Nazi joesph likes okosh for some reason.


This is the part where you find out that although English is not his first language he has no hessitation in using that to his advantage....
It's what I like to call, "Selective English Disorder".....
He understands a lot more then he lets on but he'll pull stunts like confusing questions with statements....

okosh
03-01-2011, 03:34 AM
Seems like the mods over there are getting a bit testy again. :RpS_smile: Now Okosh, you play nice with them and quit embarrassing them. :RpS_wink:


OH...OK....I'll stop at once :RpS_laugh:


I see that Twit has mentioned me, P2P, Baylee, and LRM in one of his posts. I guess he does not like us. :RpS_lol: Oh well. We are part of the Okosh team of haters and naysayers according to twit tack. :RpS_laugh::RpS_laugh: These guys are starting crumble and come unglued as bad a Charlie Sheen.

I'm really sorry that happened and that you all got dragged into what should be between him and me....
He's pissed at me and he's got his reasons but that's no excuse for dragging you all into it....
He's trying to get to me by attacking you but the Twit is too dumb to work out that I've got him on "Ignore" :RpS_laugh:

I can't really go into what happened between him and I publically but I can say that I stuck to my principles and would not budge, not even for him....

Those who know the real me know I call a cat a cat and a dog a dog....And trust is something that needs to be earned....It's not something I give automatically....
Just don't work that way with me....
If I see BS then I'll call it BS...No matter who it is :RpS_wink:

Eddie Haskell
03-01-2011, 08:13 AM
3. Some mod invents MPD so he can ban those he don't like.

Be, careful, what,you, wish, for., :RpS_wink:

Im,just,, passing,by.,,

Eddie Haskell
03-01-2011, 08:11 PM
Sorry for the screwed up postings. Everytime I hit the space bar the "comma" went off. :RpS_laugh: I could not help it. I had to get a new keyboard. I should buy stock in keyboard companies because it seems like I have had to buy a bunch of them over the years.

okosh
03-02-2011, 01:39 AM
Sorry for the screwed up postings. Everytime I hit the space bar the "comma" went off. :RpS_laugh: I could not help it. I had to get a new keyboard. I should buy stock in keyboard companies because it seems like I have had to buy a bunch of them over the years.

Be sure to read my sig b4 you buy :RpS_wink:

laidback
03-02-2011, 11:14 AM
Sorry for the screwed up postings. Everytime I hit the space bar the "comma" went off. :RpS_laugh: I could not help it. I had to get a new keyboard. I should buy stock in keyboard companies because it seems like I have had to buy a bunch of them over the years.

Oh, sure, blame it on the keyboard...!:RpS_laugh:

Eddie Haskell
03-02-2011, 12:32 PM
Be sure to read my sig b4 you buy :RpS_wink:

Did you get a dud off ebay? I went down to Wally World(China Mart) and just got a cheap one to get me by. Love them or hate them they will take just about anything back no questions asked. I took back a fishing rod one time that I broke and it was my fault and I told them it was my fault. They told me to go get another one and get the hell out of there. :RpS_laugh:

Eddie Haskell
03-02-2011, 01:02 PM
Oh, sure, blame it on the keyboard...!:RpS_laugh:

Gotta blame somebody. It was a cheap China Mart key board that went south. I dont know the brand because I already threw it out with the trash. The new one is HP but its a cheap one. About 15 bucks I think it was. Im a tight wad except for when it comes to any toys I want.

Eddie Haskell
03-02-2011, 01:26 PM
Sorry to get off topic so back on topic. I see TG member Okosh has inflamed nazi liar mod Joseph again. :RpS_lol: It wont surprise me if that thread "disappears" mysteriously like so many have in the past. They do that you know when evidence suggests they are caught with their pants down so to speak.

What gets me about that joint is the inconsistency. There were times I would have given myself warnings but I never got one. Then, all of the sudden, the crack down was on. You could not post anything without getting a warning or banned. If they viewed you as a real threat like LynnRE you just got canned for no reason. At least one that could not be proved. They are flat out afraid of Eagle. Hence, he is gone but never forgotten. To date, and Im not speaking for Lynn, I have yet to see a legitimate reason for his banning. The TG mods have dirty hands and they are caught in this mess and they are just as dirty as pimps and scam admins imo. Lets not forget the owner Brian who probably called the shot like a true mafia member would. He called the hit imho.

Seems like the naysayer community is growing so this does not bold well for scam forums like TG and the pimps. Its been a slow build up but its going to start growing at a faster pace imo. The ponzi and crime forums like TG have to take measures to protect their interests when it gets to a point that somebody is in the paid sticky threads giving them what for. Since they are in so deep, they just start banning naysayes and delete threads. :RpS_laugh: Its the best solution for their short term problems.

I long for the day they are busted down and broken up and crumbled into the piece of **** operation they really are.

okosh
03-03-2011, 12:18 AM
Seems like the naysayer community is growing so this does not bold well for scam forums like TG and the pimps.

Could be the reason for the culling :RpS_unsure:

Eddie Haskell
03-03-2011, 01:04 AM
Could be the reason for the culling :RpS_unsure:

Probably right. They have sure weeded out a bunch of naysayers of late have they not? Most are terminated for a period or gone for good or so they think anyway. :RpS_wink: They will never stop the naysaying completly and they know this. They just want to control what they can like nazis do. The low lifes are afraid of the truth being spread. The nazi mods like twit tack are after me and a few others but he can ban me over here. :RpS_laugh: He is powerless and has no control on this forum of free speech. You know he hates that. :Fiddler: Hi Twit.

They read over hear because they want to know what we are up to. Well Twit, everything is not talked about here and you are not privy to the real private forum that discusses the real plans. Your just a pawn in the TG system you idiot. Thats right, I called you a name. How many points is that? Oh, it none on this forum you *******. You dont control the speech here now do you? You take your points system and warnings and stick them where the sun does not shine. You are not at home here A hole. This is the real world. You have no power here. IN fact why dont you register coward?

okosh
03-03-2011, 02:27 AM
Thats right, I called you a name. How many points is that? Oh, it none on this forum you *******.

Well it does seem that at least one TG mod has decided that if he don't like what someone posts here at RealScam then he will (ab)use his mod position to ban that person over at TG.....

Here is reply re the banning of Baylee....


He was banned by using another "Warnings" Opp, not for post ban.
But it's not permanent ban, but a Temp ban.

Don't you thing call someone nazi is a something different for just some PA or insulting And no matter where it had happened.

One single gram of brain is enough to understand the simple thing, such type of insulting Unacceptable, even if made in war zone.

Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - Bloody 'ell....... (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4230476&postcount=671)

littleroundman
03-03-2011, 02:52 AM
Of course, none of us know how many people have had it made very clear to them that ANY post they make on Talkgold can and will result in a "warning" if not an immediate ban.

Many new age gurus and MLMers advocate using a "win/win" philosophy when attempting to resolve conflict.

According to their touchy-feely handbook, each of the aggrieved parties should be looking to achieve a "win/win" rather than win/lose or lose/lose outcome.

WRT, Talkgold, I would suggest a fourth option could be introduced into the "game"

That option being:

'I'm not playing your stupid game"

laidback
03-03-2011, 12:12 PM
Well, it seems that Baylees ban has been reversed at TG, since he was incorrectly banned for something he said elsewhere.(Like...here) Now all they have to do is admit that they incorrectly banned Lynnre(Eagleone) and artificial hyip for mpd since they are clearly not the same people. Anyone holding their breath on that one...?:RpS_thumbdn:

Soapboxmom
03-03-2011, 12:34 PM
Those cowards should unban me and that Commerce bloke as well. Oceanside was being criticized legitimately.

Soapboxmom

laidback
03-03-2011, 12:59 PM
Those cowards should unban me and that Commerce bloke as well. Oceanside was being criticized legitimately.

Soapboxmom

Yeah, I see that someone called "gummibear" has been banned after just asking a couple of questions. He(she?) said they were a member but wanted to know about licensing. That place has turned into quite a pile of camel dung.:RpS_scared:

Eddie Haskell
03-03-2011, 01:30 PM
I guess I should not be surprised that Baylee was banned for his comments on this forum. Nothing over there surprises me anymore. At least he was unbanned. If Baylee is banned for statments over here then I should have been canned a long time ago. Here again is the inconsistency with TG. They just cant seem to get it right. Lets not even talk about Lynn and alternative HYIP. They screwed this one up bad and have been caught but still wont admit it. They have no answers because they are caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

At least Geoff still has his marbles but he is one of the few that do over there. These rogue mods are really out of control. Perhaps I was wrong in my statement that Brian was behind all of this. I think the mods (some,not all) are totally out of control. They need to be reigned in. If your a naysayer right now you have a target on your back at talk scam.

okosh
03-04-2011, 12:25 AM
Well, it seems that Baylees ban has been reversed at TG, since he was incorrectly banned for something he said elsewhere.(Like...here)

Geoff did the right thing and reversed the ban after reading this post....
Web Life Forum - View Single Post - Realscam.com - on "Talk Gold" (http://www.web-life.org/vb/showpost.php?p=79824&postcount=10)

baylee
03-04-2011, 12:57 PM
Let me see now, I was 5 states and 600 miles from my keyboard and got banned at TG for a post I made here. Interesting. It seems the nazi joesph is now the super mod of worlds internet. After reviewing his actions nazi fits him to a Tee.

laidback
03-04-2011, 01:08 PM
Geoff did the right thing and reversed the ban after reading this post....
Web Life Forum - View Single Post - Realscam.com - on "Talk Gold" (http://www.web-life.org/vb/showpost.php?p=79824&postcount=10)
He has only partially done the right thing. There are still the false mpd accusations against LynnRE and Artificial Hyip.

EagleOne
03-05-2011, 01:44 AM
There is no way they can unban alternativeHYIP because that means they would have to unban me. That is something they are not going to do. Even if they did, the first post I made would get me banned again. So there is no way they will unban me. It is a shame that alternativeHYIP is the one who has to suffer because of it. Besides, they don't have the balls to unban me. :RpS_laugh::RpS_flapper:

EagleOne
03-07-2011, 06:23 PM
I bet Joseph is fit to be tied that he cannot do anything to me for my post here. :RpS_flapper: I also bet he is livid that his ban of Baylee got reversed. So now all he can do is delete threads or posts. What a wimp.

okosh
03-08-2011, 12:50 AM
I bet Joseph is fit to be tied that he cannot do anything to me for my post here. :RpS_flapper: I also bet he is livid that his ban of Baylee got reversed. So now all he can do is delete threads or posts. What a wimp.

He'sprobably also pissed with me again cos now he must explain why he deleted yet another thread for no good reason....

Somehow I doubt the "accidentily deleted" excuse will wash this time....

For those struggling to keep up....

Threads deleted by Joseph that we know of....

Uncle Clayton WZ thread....
InstaForex Paid sticky....
Paid sticky in hyip folder....
Plus "couple of other hyip threads"....
Lifesdream thread from "Paid to" folder....

And who knows how many other threads deleted that we don't know about but which mod logs could easy expose.....

You can follow the discussion at TG from Joseph's signed confession in post #4 here...
Has the LiFESDREAM thread been moved??? - Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showthread.php?t=318334&page=1)

baylee
03-16-2011, 08:46 PM
I think that I would be worried if I was a admin or mod at TalkGold, after all they are pimping this and I forgot, so is MMG.

Sea Of Incongruity Surrounds Club Asteria: As ‘Ken Russo’ Pushes ‘Opportunity’ On TalkGold Ponzi Board, World Bank Qualifies ‘Director’ Claims Made By Promoters.

Link:

Sea Of Incongruity Surrounds Club Asteria: As ‘Ken Russo’ Pushes ‘Opportunity’ On TalkGold Ponzi Board, World Bank Qualifies ‘Director’ Claims Made By Promoters (http://www.patrickpretty.com/2011/03/16/sea-of-incongruity-surrounds-club-asteria-as-ken-russo-pushes-opportunity-on-talkgold-ponzi-board-world-bank-qualifies-director-claims-made-by-promoters/)

okosh
03-16-2011, 11:46 PM
Not to worry....TG is giving away $400 to celebrate their 8th aniversary which they forgot about 2 months ago :RpS_laugh:


To thank Our Members for over 8 great years, we have decided to award up to $400 in Cash in a simple yet, exciting new Talkgold contest.

The Rules of This Contest can be found at: Talkgold Upto $400 Giveaway! - Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/r323357-.html)

There are 2 different ways to earn, and both should help the forum in the long run.

#1 is to answer a simple question which will hopefully provide members with ideas to earn extra money on the net.

#2 is to refer other member to the contest. Refer your friends and win $50 cash if they are chosen as one of the 4 winners.

Once again the contest can be entered at: Talkgold Upto $400 Giveaway! - Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/r323357-.html)

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Talkgold Upto $400 Giveaway! - Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/r323357-.html)

Eddie Haskell
03-18-2011, 05:35 PM
I got warned aginn for an honest post.

LOL This **** has gotten funny.


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Eddie Haskell
03-18-2011, 05:37 PM
opps, that was a mess sorry.

baylee
03-18-2011, 07:04 PM
LOL, It's ok Eddie, but if I had to guess, it was the Nazi joseph that gave you the points!

laidback
03-18-2011, 09:15 PM
LOL, It's ok Eddie, but if I had to guess, it was the Nazi joseph that gave you the points!

Hard to say, they all love him so much...!

okosh
03-19-2011, 12:51 AM
LOL, It's ok Eddie, but if I had to guess, it was the Nazi joseph that gave you the points!

Funny how the forum Nazi Joseph has all but vanished since he got exposed as being a pinocchio and got busted for deleting the Insta WZ thread without valid reason....
If you follow the threads you'll see that the pervert TrollTack is now watching his back and jumping in to derail threads that expose the Nazi....
Check TrollTacks post history and you'll see that just about all his posts are trolling....

EagleOne
03-19-2011, 02:09 AM
It is just too comical to read the TG forums now. They won't come here to post because they are cowards, and there are no women's skirts to hide behind.

I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when they found out that alternativeHYIP was not me. Even when caught in a lie, they could not own up to it. Just a bunch of lying cowards.

It is, however, fun to watch them bury themselves. Most people know when they are in a hole to stop digging, but not those clowns. They bring in a steam shovel to dig deeper. :RpS_laugh::RpS_laugh:

baylee
03-19-2011, 09:53 AM
Funny how the forum Nazi Joseph has all but vanished since he got exposed as being a pinocchio and got busted for deleting the Insta WZ thread without valid reason....
If you follow the threads you'll see that the pervert TrollTack is now watching his back and jumping in to derail threads that expose the Nazi....
Check TrollTacks post history and you'll see that just about all his posts are trolling....

LOL, the Nazi joseph struck again of course he called himself "guest" His nose is growing by leaps and bounds.

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Dear baylee,

You have been warned for one of your posts, which violated Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum Rules. The reason you have been warned is because:

Posting a topic or reply in a folder or thread unrelated to that topic.
(Warning Type = Off Topic Post)

For this violation, you have been given : 1 point(s).
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Wonderful news. Is this as solid as the last one you promoted?

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showth...181834&page=10
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You made some solid statements there that were proved wrong. Can you explain? I want to make some money for free.



Your track record sucks Ken. Give

us a break.
Be carefull Eddie, some are bullet proof here. Just saying.
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okosh
03-19-2011, 10:54 PM
LOL, the Nazi joseph struck again of course he called himself "guest" His nose is growing by leaps and bounds.

Guest

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Dear baylee,

You have been warned for one of your posts, which violated Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum Rules. The reason you have been warned is because:

Posting a topic or reply in a folder or thread unrelated to that topic.
(Warning Type = Off Topic Post)

For this violation, you have been given : 1 point(s).
The point(s) will remain in your account for 30 days.
After that, they will be removed automatically.

The post for which you are warned can be seen here:

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Originally Posted by EddieHaskell View Post
Wonderful news. Is this as solid as the last one you promoted?

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showth...181834&page=10
l
You made some solid statements there that were proved wrong. Can you explain? I want to make some money for free.



Your track record sucks Ken. Give

us a break.
Be carefull Eddie, some are bullet proof here. Just saying.
=======================================

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=======================================
Posting a topic or reply in a folder or thread unrelated to that topic.
=======================================

Your total Warning Level at the moment is: 1 point(s).

If you reach the maximum of 5, you will be banned from the Forums, for 30 days.

To see details about all the warnings you have received, until now, please click here.

Please reply back if you have a dispute.

The spineless cowards that are the mods at TG have always hidden when giving warnings....If you made thread accusing the Nazi of doing this he would deny it....Then Eugene(MrGSh) or TrollTack or one of the others would give you another warning for accusing the Nazi then a 3rd mod would come in and confess to giving the warning....
That's how spineless cowards operate....

BTW...The "Guest" bit is part of the script....Put there so they can hide who gave the warning...

baylee
03-20-2011, 08:49 PM
...
That's how spineless cowards operate....

BTW...The "Guest" bit is part of the script....Put there so they can hide who gave the warning...

Why would the Nazi joesph want to hide, after all he is the super duper world wide forum moderator.

okosh
03-21-2011, 01:44 AM
Why would the Nazi joesph want to hide, after all he is the super duper world wide forum moderator.

Maybe cos he can't sit down after getting his arse kicked so hard at TG :RpS_laugh:

okosh
03-21-2011, 02:16 AM
In other TG related news....

Took looooong enough but we finally found out why the Insta-forex warzone thread was deliberatly deleted....
Personally I have thought that the reason for both threads being deleted was to remove evidence due to the court case bought against Insta for illegal operation in the USA....

But MrGSH has finally revealed that my thoughts may not be too far from the truth....

Was a time at TG when an advertiser had to stand on their own 2 feet....Paying for a banner add or a sticky meant nothing more then getting what you paid for....
If your site did not do as promised(pay members) banner was removed and sticky moved to scam folder....
But times have changed....
TG now offers it's advertisers full protection from anything they deem to be "unfair"....

The deleted warzone thread and the sticky had valid posts in it and lots of information which showed what a shifty, scam and illegal operation Insta-forex is....
So they had to go inorder to protect the advertisor :RpS_thumbdn:



@Cisco: There was no conspiracy. The main thread was erased in error, while cleaning up spam. Warzone thread was made unavailable as it would be unbalanced and unfare to only have warzone thread. InstaForex people have kindly agreed start another thread. This one.

Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - InstaForex - Best Broker in Asia (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4256597&postcount=35)

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t193/okosh3466/MrGSh-protection.jpg

laidback
03-21-2011, 10:24 AM
Glad to see Insta took up where they left off, deflect, lie, deny and avoid any truth at every opportunity. Typical HYIP attitude, never admit anything, even when absolute proof is presented.
Geoff is pathetic, and apparently wants to blunt the debate so he doesn't lose his sticky fees again. Gotta admit, though, it would be fun to watch if clients weren't being potentially ripped off by this slime.

okosh
03-22-2011, 04:11 AM
Geoff is pathetic, and apparently wants to blunt the debate so he doesn't lose his sticky fees again.

"Pathetic" is one word to describe him....."Shifty as a 3pound note" is also apprpriate IMO...

He made his money over the years in HYIPS and sunk a heap of it into some fish business in Asia.....

"Geoff01" aka "Realist" aka "Forwardome" is a real piece of work.....

Geoff has been Brian's front man for years and on numerous forums........
He's admin on TG as Geoff01....
He's admin on MMG as "Realist"...(But he also has the user name "Forwardome" on MMG as well)...
He's admin and a "private partner" on Web-life as "Forwardome" (which is connected to Brian and/or his brother Eddy).....
He's also admin on THF(TheHyipForum) as Forwardome with Eddy after they took the forum over from exTG mod Fred(me222)....
He's admin on DailyTalk as "Forwardome"....(not sure who ownes that one)....

As you saw with Insta thread Geoff will do what it takes for an advertisor....
Do you seriously think that an experienced forum admin like Geoff could ever delete a thread by accident??....
Even if you click on "delete thread" it still asks you if you sure then you need to click "yes".....

Geoff's recent post in Insta thread gives more then enough of an indication that the deletion was no accident....
Add to that the deletion of the WZ thread for Insta's protection and the picture becomes clear....

Those who have taken issues to Geoff will know how evasive he can be....You never really get any clear answers from him and boy can he be obnoxious ....

Those who have spoken with him outside of the threads would probably not find it any surprise that he is divorced :RpS_unsure:

okosh
03-22-2011, 04:13 AM
Just to add....
You can read more on Geoff here....
Interview with Forwardone, Web-Life.org Admin : HYIPNEWS.COM : Real-Time HYIP Monitor Service & Newspaper (http://www.hyipnews.com/hyip-articles/209/EXCLUSIVE/web-life_admin_interview/)

Eddie Haskell
03-23-2011, 01:53 AM
So now you get warnings for posting a screenshot??:RpS_lol: Or is that because you are a naysayer Okosh?? These mods are out of control but thats ok. This is going to be a bad bad year for them and the scams they protect.

If any of you Tg mods decide to join over here please dont forget your skirts, panties, and bras. :RpS_lol:

Eddie Haskell
03-23-2011, 02:11 AM
Looks like Manolo has been unbanned for reasons unknown. Too bad the wind does not blow both ways when they got caught banning Lynn for no reason. Cowards.

littleroundman
03-23-2011, 02:12 AM
It appears Talkgold is operating from another dictionary than most people.

In Talkgoldeze "Permanent" apparently means "two days" or maybe Manolos' banning was another one of "those" mistakes like the deleting of threads.

Luckily for Club Asteria, Manolo/Strosdegoz has returned with his "Club Asteria is the best thing since sliced bread" and "I got paid" posts, otherwise their thread would be dead in the water.

Eddie Haskell
03-23-2011, 03:17 AM
I just got warned again by some unknown mod for posting in the wrong folder. Its debatable but the topic didnt suit their fancy so they moved it to where nobody will find it. :RpS_laugh: Here is the link.

Eagle Research hits the media trail.... - Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/r323967-.html)

Talk about a bunch of candy asses. They really have their panties in a wad for posts that are truthful and detrimental to the state of their part in the scam business. Its only going to get worse for them. :RpS_thumbup:

laidback
03-23-2011, 09:03 AM
It appears Talkgold is operating from another dictionary than most people.

In Talkgoldeze "Permanent" apparently means "two days" or maybe Manolos' banning was another one of "those" mistakes like the deleting of threads.

Luckily for Club Asteria, Manolo/Strosdegoz has returned with his "Club Asteria is the best thing since sliced bread" and "I got paid" posts, otherwise their thread would be dead in the water.

Ya hadda know it would't last. The only permanent bans handed out are for naysayers, not pimps.http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-evil-grin-smileys-752.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/skype-emoticons.html)

okosh
03-24-2011, 01:52 AM
So now you get warnings for posting a screenshot??:RpS_lol: Or is that because you are a naysayer Okosh?? These mods are out of control but thats ok. This is going to be a bad bad year for them and the scams they protect.



It's because mods there are openly abusing their positions with full backing of Geoff :RpS_thumbdn:

Eddie Haskell
03-24-2011, 02:05 AM
It's because mods there are openly abusing their positions with full backing of Geoff :RpS_thumbdn:

I could not agree with you more. Its past pathetic.

Fgold
04-03-2011, 08:58 PM
I got another unfairly bann again and is permanently!! :RpS_lol:

I´ve just comment about NAN and TT shill monitor and got a boot :RpS_sad:

I´m really disapointed because this was my first appearance this year :RpS_blushing:

laidback
04-03-2011, 09:18 PM
I got another unfairly bann again and is permanently!! :RpS_lol:

I´ve just comment about NAN and TT shill monitor and got a boot :RpS_sad:

I´m really disapointed because this was my first appearance this year :RpS_blushing:

Which thread?

okosh
04-04-2011, 12:17 AM
I got another unfairly bann again and is permanently!! :RpS_lol:

I´ve just comment about NAN and TT shill monitor and got a boot :RpS_sad:

I´m really disapointed because this was my first appearance this year :RpS_blushing:

Indeed it's disapointing that you have been so slack and not bumped that thread for 5 months :RpS_thumbdn:

okosh
04-04-2011, 12:20 AM
Which thread?

Same one he's now been banned 7 times in :RpS_laugh:

Notanewbie , are you the same with TickTack? - Page 6 - Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4280854#post4280854)

EagleOne
04-08-2011, 01:48 PM
Well the super banning and deleting idiot mod, Joseph, has been at it again, but this time he is deleting posts. Funny since they claim they don't delete posts, just move them to the appropriate thread, yet Okosh replied to MrG and now the post is gone. Nowhere to be found. Guess they were afraid of the information it contained, and didn't want the masses to see it.

Me thinks they are starting to get worried, but they are definitely paranoid. :RpS_lol::RpS_lol:

Joseph, this one's for you: :RpS_flapper::RpS_flapper:

laidback
04-08-2011, 02:05 PM
Well the super banning and deleting idiot mod, Joseph, has been at it again, but this time he is deleting posts. Funny since they claim they don't delete posts, just move them to the appropriate thread, yet Okosh replied to MrG and now the post is gone. Nowhere to be found. Guess they were afraid of the information it contained, and didn't want the masses to see it.

Me thinks they are starting to get worried, but they are definitely paranoid. :RpS_lol::RpS_lol:


Joseph, this one's for you: :RpS_flapper::RpS_flapper:

Incredibly brilliant of them....NOT! Delete the original post and leave the quote intact. That's the kind of stupid stuff that Mutt did all the time at MyScamForums...!

baylee
04-08-2011, 04:15 PM
Well the super banning and deleting idiot mod, Joseph, has been at it again, but this time he is deleting posts. Funny since they claim they don't delete posts, just move them to the appropriate thread, yet Okosh replied to MrG and now the post is gone. Nowhere to be found. Guess they were afraid of the information it contained, and didn't want the masses to see it.

Me thinks they are starting to get worried, but they are definitely paranoid. :RpS_lol::RpS_lol:



Joseph, this one's for you: :RpS_flapper::RpS_flapper:

joseph is all of what you called him and a nazi to boot. typical of him.

okosh
04-09-2011, 03:25 AM
joseph is all of what you called him and a nazi to boot. typical of him.

Nazi-Joseph gave me a warning for spamming.....since when is posting a newspaper article link seen as spamming??....

baylee
04-09-2011, 05:37 PM
Nazi-Joseph gave me a warning for spamming.....since when is posting a newspaper article link seen as spamming??....

I read what the Nazi joseph posted in the war zone at TG. nazi/pinocchio/ joseph fits him to a "T".

laidback
04-09-2011, 09:37 PM
I read what the Nazi joseph posted in the war zone at TG. nazi/pinocchio/ joseph fits him to a "T".

Here's a thought guys. Pinocchio is doing EXACTLY what the owners and admins want, and they are trying to get the rest of the mods to follow his example...! Otherwise there would be some attempt to reign him in...!:RpS_thumbdn:

littleroundman
04-09-2011, 10:26 PM
Is anyone REALLY surprised ???

It's Talkgold we're talking about here, not some recently-gone-bad genuine investment forum.

The whole "scene" is based on illusion, lies, deceit, treachery and criminal behaviour.

There ARE NO redeeming features.

Any talk of freedom to choose or "rights" are nothing but lame attempts to rationalize and justify the indefensible.

ANYTHING which can be considered "true" is either a only a half truth or has no real relevance, anyway.

That Talkgold has one or two token "honest" moderators does not, in any way substantially alter what's REALLY going on.

okosh
04-10-2011, 02:05 AM
Well it's official.....Lyn can be unbanned at TG so long as he greases the palm of MrGSH and TG admin.....



Eddie, If your buddy Lynn pays for the advertising place it will give him more exposure. If he buys a sticky thread, I promise to talk to others and who knows admin may allow him to post in that thread... How about that? You buy a banner first, then if he wants we have a mod/admin meeting, and if it goes through, he or you pay for a sticky, and he will be able to post there....
Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - Bloody 'ell....... (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4290372&postcount=735)

okosh
04-10-2011, 02:13 AM
I read what the Nazi joseph posted in the war zone at TG. nazi/pinocchio/ joseph fits him to a "T".
Joseph the Nazi has now resorted to openly abusing his position.....
He is such a coward....Completely yellow.....Hasn't got the balls to make user name here and face me on a level playing field....

Here is his latest BS...


And, I'm not interesting it's war zone or not, try once again call me something instead of Joseph and you get banned.

laidback
04-10-2011, 09:06 AM
Well it's official.....Lyn can be unbanned at TG so long as he greases the palm of MrGSH and TG admin.....


Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - Bloody 'ell....... (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4290372&postcount=735)

Hey, I love it...! A public forum openly resorting to extortion to remove the ban on a member that didn't break their rules. Where is that worthless "Extortion Buster" when real extortion is occurring...? Need to change the name of that swamp to Talk Hypocrisy...!

EagleOne
04-10-2011, 09:47 PM
Now that is quite intersting since Joseph accused me of, and I quote: "They comes here just for his own agenda and his own dirty job Making spam, Trolling, Fraud or Blackmail..." and now they are trying to extort money out of me so I can post there again? :RpS_flapper::RpS_flapper:

How about you unban me because I did not have multiple IP's and username as you claimed was the reason for my banning. Of course we aren't man enough to admit Joseph lied about this are we all the mods at TG? Get real. I would never pay for a sticky on TG. What is even more of a joke is that would be the only thread they would allow me to post in. Well, why not just unban me so I can post in the thread about my book period? But no you want to "extort" money out of me thinking I would be dumb enough to do it. :RpS_lol::RpS_lol:

okosh
04-10-2011, 10:27 PM
Now that is quite intersting since Joseph accused me of, and I quote: "They comes here just for his own agenda and his own dirty job Making spam, Trolling, Fraud or Blackmail..." and now they are trying to extort money out of me so I can post there again? :RpS_flapper::RpS_flapper:

How about you unban me because I did not have multiple IP's and username as you claimed was the reason for my banning. Of course we aren't man enough to admit Joseph lied about this are we all the mods at TG? Get real. I would never pay for a sticky on TG. What is even more of a joke is that would be the only thread they would allow me to post in. Well, why not just unban me so I can post in the thread about my book period? But no you want to "extort" money out of me thinking I would be dumb enough to do it. :RpS_lol::RpS_lol:

Have informed Gsh of you posting your reply here and I invited him to come read and reply....

Eddie Haskell
04-11-2011, 11:17 AM
Here's a thought guys. Pinocchio is doing EXACTLY what the owners and admins want, and they are trying to get the rest of the mods to follow his example...! Otherwise there would be some attempt to reign him in...!:RpS_thumbdn:

truer words have never been spoken.

EagleOne
04-11-2011, 03:28 PM
Have informed Gsh of you posting your reply here and I invited him to come read and reply....

Thanks for suggesting it, but we both know this will never happen for a variety of reasons; replying that is. I don't doubt he will read it, just not reply.

okosh
04-11-2011, 07:48 PM
Nazi-Joseph gave me a warning for spamming.....since when is posting a newspaper article link seen as spamming??....

Well it seems that the post has been returned and the warning removed....

Of course the Nazi couldn't let it at that so a replacement warning was given for another post.....

laidback
04-13-2011, 04:03 PM
I see that talkgold has weighed in on the banning policy with some total BS:

Let me clarify here for a second
#1 no member will ever be unbanned just because they offer to pay for advertising. #2 I have nothing against Lynn, and on several occasions tried to get him reinstated. Almost every ban needs to be overturned by a majority of the mods/admin team. I think Lynn can contribute useful information to the forum, however, there is evidence suggesting 2 usernames in the past which is a direct violation of the forum rules.

Having said this we have reinstated other members for the same thing. As always the entire mod team has final say.

I also feel that the Warzone should stay relatively unmoderated, something the mod team can improve upon. There is nothing wrong with the naysayers, and in fact they are good for the members, it's just when they attack certain threads as teams and take the threads completely off topic that things get out of control (This is called trolling).
So the owners/admins can't overrule the mods when they are wrong or obviously have a vendetta going??? say what ???
The "evidence" of two user names has been refuted and shown to be bogus...!

The naysayers take the threads off topic? Give me a break...! The normal progression almost always is: Naysayer points out flaws with scam; since pimps and cheerleaders have no facts refute the statements,they attack the naysayers.
Lame, lame, lame...!
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baylee
04-13-2011, 04:22 PM
Well it seems that the post has been returned and the warning removed....

Of course the Nazi couldn't let it at that so a replacement warning was given for another post.....

The Nazi joseph strikes again. His nose is growing longer.

littleroundman
04-14-2011, 10:08 AM
The naysayers take the threads off topic? Give me a break...! The normal progression almost always is: Naysayer points out flaws with scam; since pimps and cheerleaders have no facts refute the statements,they attack the naysayers.
Lame, lame, lame...!
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It's Talkgold, does anyone expect any different ???

Putting the current vendetta/s aside for a moment, we're still left with the bottom line that Talkgold is what it is and always was.

Attempting to use common sense, logic and fairness to describe what goes on at Talkgold, MMG and such forums is as pointless as applying lipstick to a pig.

It's ALL fantasy, it's ALL criminal and it's ALL about the money.

NONE of it is "real"

Dress it up as much as you like and point out some of the moderators are better than others, it makes no difference. The forums exist for one reason and one reason only and that's to make a buck any way they can.

Anything else is froth and bubbles and window dressing.

IM(very)HO, naysayers are and have always been on borrowed time and are extremely lucky to have survived this long..

Integrity, morals, truth and compassion simply do not exist in the world of HYIP ponzis.

As for "fairness" FAWGEDDABOWDIT !

okosh
04-14-2011, 10:54 AM
The Nazi joseph strikes again. His nose is growing longer.

Whilst this is true I can now share with you the official reason why the forum Nazi Joseph is free to do as he pleases, abuse his position as much as he likes and why Admin Geoff will defend his actions to the end of time.....

In Geoff's own words, "Joseph is one of our most active mods".....

Seems being active is all that needed.....

With my latest BS warning issued by the Nazi, Geoff went to amazing lengths to protect the Nazi's abuse of power.....
The excuses given just kept on changing....
First it was "wrong title format".....
When that excuse didn't work it changed to, "Inactive URL".....
When that didn't work it changed to, "Mod thought it was a joke".....

By the end Geoff actually got angry that he couldn't come up with an acceptable excuse for the warning :RpS_laugh:

laidback
04-14-2011, 11:16 AM
Whilst this is true I can now share with you the official reason why the forum Nazi Joseph is free to do as he pleases, abuse his position as much as he likes and why Admin Geoff will defend his actions to the end of time.....

In Geoff's own words, "Joseph is one of our most active mods".....

Seems being active is all that needed.....

With my latest BS warning issued by the Nazi, Geoff went to amazing lengths to protect the Nazi's abuse of power.....
The excuses given just kept on changing....
First it was "wrong title format".....
When that excuse didn't work it changed to, "Inactive URL".....
When that didn't work it changed to, "Mod thought it was a joke".....

By the end Geoff actually got angry that he couldn't come up with an acceptable excuse for the warning :RpS_laugh:

Great...! How long would a taxi company last if they kept on their "most active driver" that kept crashing cars...?

okosh
04-14-2011, 11:25 AM
Putting the current vendetta/s aside for a moment, we're still left with the bottom line that Talkgold is what it is and always was.


Yep...Corrupt admin....Corrupt mods.....

okosh
04-14-2011, 11:36 AM
Great...! How long would a taxi company last if they kept on their "most active driver" that kept crashing cars...?

Geoff would find a way to excuse the Nazi even if he started a hyip and scammed everyone.....
Oh hang on....Didn't the Nazi already do that?? :RpS_unsure:

path2prosperity
04-14-2011, 04:11 PM
Geoff would find a way to excuse the Nazi even if he started a hyip and scammed everyone.....
Oh hang on....Didn't the Nazi already do that?? :RpS_unsure:

Some people have evidence that suggests he was admin of LT-Plan but his association and promotion of History Savers is very well documented.

laidback
04-15-2011, 10:51 AM
Far be it from me to let the cat out of the bag, but the latest member to bite the dust over at Talk Scam is our one and only OKOSH,,,! It seems our fair-haired boy ran afoul of http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-character-smileys-220.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/skype-emoticons.html)Please give him a big hand warm welcome to the land of the exiled..!!!

WELCOME http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-sign-smileys-987.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/skype-emoticons.html) OKOSH...!

path2prosperity
04-15-2011, 12:30 PM
Far be it from me to let the cat out of the bag, but the latest member to bite the dust over at Talk Scam is our one and only OKOSH.OKOSH...!

Well done you "okosh". You can send your comments and evidence to plenty of your other followers, who have laid low over there, so TG will have to ban more and more naysayers for no obvious reason.

baylee
04-15-2011, 03:48 PM
Some people have evidence that suggests he was admin of LT-Plan but his association and promotion of History Savers is very well documented.

I have heard rumors that the Nazi was an admin of a program.

EagleOne
04-15-2011, 05:30 PM
Well, so much for "anything" goes in the WZ thread. Sorry to hear it Okosh, as you were a great asset on the TG threads. At least there are still a few of the good guys and gals still left that can post there to carry-on the fight. Not surprised they don't want the truth known there.

okosh
04-17-2011, 02:23 AM
Thanks for the warm welcome...Tis indeed an honor to join those previously banned from the TalkCrap crime forum :RpS_wink:


Well done you "okosh". You can send your comments and evidence to plenty of your other followers, who have laid low over there, so TG will have to ban more and more naysayers for no obvious reason.

Thank you Judy for your kind offer but I see this as a new challenge for me......
I look forward to the challenge of continuing to expose the scum at TG without actually posting there....

For the scum mods and especially the admins who run TG it's all about the traffic.....
The Alexa graph tells the story.....

okosh
04-17-2011, 02:30 AM
I have heard rumors that the Nazi was an admin of a program.

Well there is this post where the Nazi-Joseph is posting about advertising-surf(dot)net yet he signs the post with "LT-Plan Admin".....

Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - Advertising-Surf - advertising-surf.net (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2608968&postcount=60)

Then there is this post where he is quoting updates....
Look at the 2nd quote....We all read enough of his posts to know how he uses English which is a 2nd language for him....
The words "I remember you that any member who add a framebreaking site" sure sounds like he wrote it....
Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - LT-Plan - lt-plan.com (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2759228&postcount=90)

path2prosperity
04-17-2011, 05:15 PM
Well there is this post where the Nazi-Joseph is posting about advertising-surf(dot)net yet he signs the post with "LT-Plan Admin".....

Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - Advertising-Surf - advertising-surf.net (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2608968&postcount=60)

Then there is this post where he is quoting updates....
Look at the 2nd quote....We all read enough of his posts to know how he uses English which is a 2nd language for him....
The words "I remember you that any member who add a framebreaking site" sure sounds like he wrote it....
Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - LT-Plan - lt-plan.com (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2759228&postcount=90)

This looks pretty convincing to me. I played a lot of autosurfs for a punt with relatively small change and I loved it. Playing the autosurf tipster reminded me of my teenage fantasy. I had dreamed of being a famous and beautiful horse racing tipster who wowed the British public by giving my horse racing tips on a new fangled media (TV). Pop stars and girlie fantasies of being a pop star had had not caught on in the way they have now. Being a horse racing tipster was my dream in the early 1950s.

I did not join or recommend LT-Plan. The presentation and sales spiel was poor and the owner came over as a rude and arrogant B. I was very impressed with autosurf(dot)net. I was late joining this one and when I did, I raged about it. It was the first autosurf which I had ever encountered that looked as if it could have been based on some sort of genuine business. I was very keen to learn more.

It was supposed to be a limited company registered in France with eight directors and one manager who was listed as admin. My French was not good enough to do any DD so I started asking questions about it in Canada, as I reasoned there must be enough bilingual people to do some serious research in Quebec. The English version of autosurfs(dot)net was a cut above anything I had ever seen in the autosurf world and shady characters like Jake The Snake were excluded from this find. I think that it may have even been a bespoke script worthy of a programmer who is elusive but well known now by present TG supporters.

When autosurf(dot)net folded I felt a real chill run up my spine. A limited company with eight directors could not disappear into oblivion. It was the first hint that I had ever had, that autosurfs were not just fun money games. I pressed everybody I knew for answers and discovered that my sponsor Troy Barton was the weakest link in the chain. Troy may have been used and he may know nothing more than I do but we have not heard the last of Troy Barton or any of the p2p mods involved in this. Sydney and Joseph worked together on at least one project.

My investigations into the disappearance of this so called registered French company sparked off a hate campaign against me. I still think Troy was a pawn but I do know two people who were involved in the cover up and I am prepared to speak to any investigative journalist who wishes to speak to me about this.

littleroundman
04-17-2011, 06:32 PM
Judy,

I find it both amusing and amazing that someone with your experience and history continues to rattle off all these interesting tidbits of inside information about the "autosurf" industry as if any of it is or was ever "real"

I certainly hope that casual readers of the forum are astute enough to recognize that the only safe way to approach ANYTHING in the HYIP ponzi industry is that NOTHING is real.

NOTHING is as it seems.

At best, people are being fed half truths. Just enough "truth" is told so as to trick the average punter into believing it MIGHT be true.

Many years of observation have convinced me the only safe way to approach the HYIP ponzi and "autosurf" industries is to accept the fact NOTHING is the truth, the whole truth and, nothing but the truth.

path2prosperity
04-17-2011, 06:54 PM
Judy,
I find it both amusing and amazing that someone with your experience and history continues to rattle off all these interesting tidbits of inside information about the "autosurf" industry as if any of it is or was ever "real"


I am aware that there is or was nothing real about the autosurf industry busines .

I have tried to make it perfectly clear that I played money games when they started. I did not promote the idea that autosurf(dot)net was real. I tried to find out how to do DD on a French company that claimed it was real and registered in France without knowing enough of the language to find out for myself. People believed AdsurfDaily was real and they post here without getting bashed. I never promoted autosurf.net as real. It sounded different so I asked questions.

I am a real person who played autosurf games and there are others who used real names. We are not all invented personas.

littleroundman
04-17-2011, 07:16 PM
Judy,

it continues to amaze me that you continue to defend your position WRT "autosurfs" when, in your own contradictory words
"My investigations into the disappearance of this so called registered French company sparked off a hate campaign against me. I still think Troy was a pawn but I do know two people who were involved in the cover up and I am prepared to speak to any investigative journalist who wishes to speak to me about this"

You STILL don't get "IT"

There IS no "cover up"

There is nothing to "cover up"

There's absolutely no need for anyone to "cover up" something which didn't exist in the first place.

Unless you have personally met the people whose names you keep throwing around AND seen their photo IDs, you have absolutely no idea whether or not any of them exist in the real world.

You have no idea who they are or where they are, other than what they've told you.

NOBODY does, unless they've been face to face, seen some form of identification and had it validated.

If you do present your information to an investigative journalist, be prepared to have him or her laugh in your face.

path2prosperity
04-17-2011, 07:28 PM
Judy,

it continues to amaze me that you continue to defend your position WRT "autosurfs" when, in your own contradictory words

You STILL don't get "IT"

There IS no "cover up"

There is nothing to "cover up"

There's absolutely no need for anyone to "cover up" something which didn't exist in the first place.

Unless you have personally met the people whose names you keep throwing around AND seen their photo IDs, you have absolutely no idea whether or not any of them exist in the real world.

You have no idea who they are or where they are, other than what they've told you.

NOBODY does, unless they've been face to face, seen some form of identification and had it validated.

If you do present your information to an investigative journalist, be prepared to have him or her laugh in your face.

You suggested that I was using an invented persona which is fair enough but that was not the case. I am a real person who played autosurf games.

path2prosperity
04-17-2011, 07:39 PM
Judy,

You STILL don't get "IT"There IS no "cover up" There is nothing to "cover up"There's absolutely no need for anyone to "cover up" something which didn't exist in the first place.



I do not get your point. There was a program called autosurfs(dot)net. They sent me some money for playing the game and I have evidence that such a program existed. Are you suggesting that other prograns like AdSurfDaily and MrsVip did not exist?

littleroundman
04-17-2011, 07:45 PM
You suggested that I was using an invented persona which is fair enough but that was not the case. I am a real person who played autosurf games.

Therin lies the problem and that's the lesson I hope readers can learn.

You are the only "real" thing of which you can be certain.

Play HYIP and "autosurf" ponzi games if you must, it's your money and your time.

However, realize that NOTHING is real, it's ALL fantasy.

The forums aren't real, the "I got paid" posts aren't real, the names, histories, reputations and locations of the players aren't real, most of the payment processors are neither legal or "real"

In short, once you send your money you must accept IT'S GONE and there is NO WAY to recover it.

Unless and until people are prepared to accept the fact HYIPs and "autosurfs" are ALL scams, their money is at risk and they will continue to be "victims"

path2prosperity
04-17-2011, 07:57 PM
The forums aren't real, the "I got paid" posts aren't real, the names, histories, reputations and locations of the players aren't real, most of the payment processors are neither legal or "real" In short, once you send your money you must accept IT'S GONE and there is NO WAY to recover it.


We seem to be in agreement at last. I played when I thought it was fun like betting on horses.

littleroundman
04-17-2011, 08:06 PM
We seem to be in agreement at last. I played when I thought it was fun like betting on horses.

Excellent,

now, if we can only get you to stop talking about all the people you've encountered and the stories they've told you as if they're real, we'll be getting somewhere.

There's no quicker way to get ripped off on the internet than to give one of these snakes the slightest evidence you believe ANYTHING they say.

path2prosperity
04-17-2011, 08:31 PM
Excellent,

now, if we can only get you to stop talking about all the people you've encountered and the stories they've told you as if they're real, we'll be getting somewhere.

There's no quicker way to get ripped off on the internet than to give one of these snakes the slightest evidence you believe ANYTHING they say.

I am not going to stop talking about people who do exist and have been identified as real. For example;I was sent a picture of the VLane team and I published that on my web site. http://path2prosperity.com/VL-Staff.jpg

Autosurf(dot)net was a surf company which was real and sent me money. My upline was a P2p mod (Troy Barton) and P2p mods existed.

littleroundman
04-17-2011, 08:54 PM
Autosurf(dot)net was a surf company which was real and sent me money. My upline was a P2p mod (Troy Barton) and P2p mods existed.

Oh well,

in that case you are going to continue to be pulled up every time you post one of your "stories" here on RealScam.com

Perhaps you can explain to us all how ANY "autosurf" can be "real"

The fact you received money doesn't, in any way, make "Autosurf.net" any less illegal and/or any more "real"

You obviously STILL cannot recognize and/or accept the fact that being "paid" DOES NOT mean a HYIP ponzi or "autosurf" is "real" AND you are STILL refusing to accept the fact you simply CANNOT guarantee the person behind the on screen identity is who they say they are.

"Troy Barton" could be a 14 year old pimple faced schoolboy posting from India for all you know, and you'd have no way of knowing for sure without court orders, legal investigative skills and powersand a whole sh***oad of moneyand time.That's how HYIP ponzi games work.What you ARE doing, though, is showing readers of RealScam.com how easy it is for those intent on stealing peoples' money to fool even those who consider themselves careful in their internet dealings.

path2prosperity
04-17-2011, 09:01 PM
Oh well,
Perhaps you can explain to us all how ANY "autosurf" can be "real"

The fact you received money doesn't, in any way, make "Autosurf.net" any less illegal and/or any more "real"

You obviously STILL cannot recognize and/or accept the fact that being "paid" DOES NOT mean a HYIP ponzi or "autosurf" is "real" AND you are STILL refusing to accept the fact you simply CANNOT guarantee the person behind the on screen identity is who they say they are.

"Troy Barton" could be a 14 year old pimple faced schoolboy posting from India for all you know, and you'd have no way of knowing for sure without court orders, legal investigative skills and powersand a whole sh***oad of moneyand time.That's how HYIP ponzi games work.What you ARE doing, though, is showing readers of RealScam.com how easy it is for those intent on stealing peoples' money to fool even those who consider themselves careful in their internet dealings.

I genuinely do not understand what you are driving at. I am not recommending autosufs. VLane was a real con and so was autosurf(dot)net.

path2prosperity
04-17-2011, 09:14 PM
The fact you received money doesn't, in any way, make "Autosurf.net" any less illegal and/or any more "real"

I am not trying to saying the program was legal. I said that it existed and that it was a real con.

littleroundman
04-17-2011, 09:33 PM
I'm not "driving at" anything.

You said in post # 235 (http://www.realscam.com/f16/talk-gold-mods-banning-spree-435/index10.html#post8593) above:


I am not going to stop talking about people who do exist and have been identified as real. For example;I was sent a picture of the VLane team and I published that on my web site. http://path2prosperity.com/VL-Staff.jpg

Autosurf(dot)net was a surf company which was real and sent me money. My upline was a P2p mod (Troy Barton) and P2p mods existed.

You were sent a picture which showed a group of people that SOMEONE said was the VLane team.

You weren't there
You don't know for sure.

Even if it WAS a real picture of real people, so what ???

They exist. End of story.

Does that mean because they exist, then what they say they do is real ???

If you actually met someone called "Troy Barton" does that mean he does what he says he does ???

If the VLane team and Troy Barton were members of al-Quadea, would you expect them to 'fess up they are terrorists in disguise and really only interested in raising money so they could blow **** up and kill people ???

Wake up, Judy, wake up.

IT'S ALL FAKE !!!

littleroundman
04-17-2011, 09:55 PM
Her ya go,

wanna know exactly what the real HYIP ponzi "playas" think of anyone silly enough to believe any of it ???

How's this for contempt for fellow HYIP ponzi players from a 3000 post Talkgold veteran:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/countrytec.jpg

Soapboxmom
04-17-2011, 10:38 PM
I'm not "driving at" anything.

You said in post # 235 (http://www.realscam.com/f16/talk-gold-mods-banning-spree-435/index10.html#post8593) above:



You were sent a picture which showed a group of people that SOMEONE said was the VLane team.

You weren't there
You don't know for sure.

Even if it WAS a real picture of real people, so what ???

They exist. End of story.

Does that mean because they exist, then what they say they do is real ???

If you actually met someone called "Troy Barton" does that mean he does what he says he does ???

If the VLane team and Troy Barton were members of al-Quadea, would you expect them to 'fess up they are terrorists in disguise and really only interested in raising money so they could blow **** up and kill people ???

Wake up, Judy, wake up.

IT'S ALL FAKE !!!
Absolutely true, littleroundman. Remember, Judy, that I have a PACER membership and an alarming habit of accessing court records and other public records. I have watched lots of videos and seen pictures, read ads, and even read court papers that appeared "real" and seemed very convincing. Soon one learns that these con men would sell out and sell to their own mothers. Everything that comes out of their mouths or typing fingers amounts to exaggeration, gross exaggeration and mostly outright lies.

For those cons in MLM and cash gifting that were dunb enough to use their real names and images online there was a heavy price. It was sometimes quite easy to challenge them on claims they made and totally discredit them. Broker Jones, for one example learned his lesson. The shady characters still involved with him mentioned going deep undeground the last time I haunted his Oceanside forum. Notice the apparent silence from that camp. But, who is to say they aren't cooking up a new scheme and using new aliases as I type right back in another forex scam.

It is all a version of the "lipstick on a pig" theory in practice. If I had a nickel for every time some con claimed they were doing God's work and that their company was bringing faith into the marketplace I would be a freakin' billionaire.

Soapboxmom

littleroundman
04-18-2011, 12:29 AM
You see, Judy, the words "senior member" appear under your name in each post you make on RealScam.com.

The members of RealScam simply CANNOT allow a single reader of the forum to be left with the impression that playing HYIP ponzi and "autosurf" games is, in any way acceptable.

Like it or not, playing "autosurfs" is, was, and always has been, both illegal AND immoral.

It is more from good luck than good judgement HYIP ponzi players are not caught and prosecuted, PARTICULARLY when they are easily identified and located, as you have made yourself.

The fact few people hear about it, does NOT mean it doesn't happen.

Just ask the women involved in the "Friends Helping Friends" and "Women Helping Women" cash gifting groups if they ever expected to be caught and prosecuted.

IM(very)HO, NO ONE who reads RealScam.com should be left in ANY doubt that HYIP ponzi and "autosurf" games AND the people who promote, support and participate in them are engaging in criminal behaviour.

No "ifs" or "buts" about it.

No "but I know XXXXX is/was genuine" and no "XXXX is/was a real company with honourable intentions" or 'poor li'l XXXXXX she was only trying to make a few cents to support her desperately ill grandmothers' little puppy"

They're ALL criminal and they're ALL wrong.

What's more, the people who play them have NO idea where the money is going and what it's being used for.

Think about THAT next time someone brings up the question of how terrorist and criminal groups source the money to wreak havoc on society.

How many of the hundreds of millions of dollars spent annually punting on "autosurfs" ends up being spent on guns and bombs ??

path2prosperity
04-18-2011, 12:43 AM
Absolutely true, littleroundman. Remember, Judy, that I have a PACER membership and an alarming habit of accessing court records and other public records. I have watched lots of videos and seen pictures, read ads, and even read court papers that appeared "real" and seemed very convincing. Soon one learns that these con men would sell out and sell to their own mothers. Everything that comes out of their mouths or typing fingers amounts to exaggeration, gross exaggeration and mostly outright lies.

For those cons in MLM and cash gifting that were dunb enough to use their real names and images online there was a heavy price. It was sometimes quite easy to challenge them on claims they made and totally discredit them. Broker Jones, for one example learned his lesson. The shady characters still involved with him mentioned going deep undeground the last time I haunted his Oceanside forum. Notice the apparent silence from that camp. But, who is to say they aren't cooking up a new scheme and using new aliases as I type right back in another forex scam.

It is all a version of the "lipstick on a pig" theory in practice. If I had a nickel for every time some con claimed they were doing God's work and that their company was bringing faith into the marketplace I would be a freakin' billionaire.

Soapboxmom

Not everybody who joined autosurfs or shady MLMs were con artists SBM. I was not a MrsVip member. I warned people not to join. Somebody who was, sent me a picture of the main bunch of the crooks involved.

This thread was discussing TG mod Joseph and the fact that several members here believe that he is reputed to have run LT-plan. Joseph promoted autosurf.net. I can not testify that LT-Plan was a real program but I can state that autosurf(dot)was real scam because I had a punt on that one.

I have not stated that this was a real business. I have stated that it was a real con. Some people who posted to this thread do want to know if Joseph was involved in autosurfs like LT-Plan or autosurf(dot)net.

path2prosperity
04-18-2011, 01:28 AM
I'm not "driving at" anything.

You said in post # 235 (http://www.realscam.com/f16/talk-gold-mods-banning-spree-435/index10.html#post8593) above:

You were sent a picture which showed a group of people that SOMEONE said was the VLane team. Does that mean because they exist, then what they say they do is real ???

IT'S ALL FAKE !!!

No I said they were a group of con artists not investment consultants.

Soapboxmom
04-18-2011, 08:17 AM
Not everybody who joined autosurfs or shady MLMs were con artists SBM. I was not a MrsVip member. I warned people not to join. Somebody who was, sent me a picture of the main bunch of the crooks involved.

This thread was discussing TG mod Joseph and the fact that several members here believe that he is reputed to have run LT-plan. Joseph promoted autosurf.net. I can not testify that LT-Plan was a real program but I can state that autosurf(dot)was real scam because I had a punt on that one.

I have not stated that this was a real business. I have stated that it was a real con. Some people who posted to this thread do want to know if Joseph was involved in autosurfs like LT-Plan or autosurf(dot)net.
I was referring to the founders and top promoters. I think most who join MLM, cash gifting and HYIP etc. are victims. They are trusting, honest and / or desperate people who mistakenly believe that what they have been exposed to on the internet was real when in fact it was all the well planned out work of a seasoned con.

All the talk of God is blessing here, it is a long term deal with integrity, it is a vehicle to give the masses financial and time freedom....... The cons use it over and over ad nauseum. Law enforcement in the U.S. is way underfunded and understaffed, so it is buyer beware. And even if you ever get a real name and face put together, one will find that the reality is nothing like the image and illusion the top promoter has created. I have thousands of pages of court documents amassed over the years that clearly demonstrate that. I look forward to posting more as it is appropriate.

Soapboxmom

Eddie Haskell
04-18-2011, 11:52 PM
Taking bets now on my demise. Dates please and lets see the money.

OKosh is of fame imo and a huge thorn in the TG mentality. He stung them hard.

Great job Mate.

okosh
04-19-2011, 12:22 AM
If you actually met someone called "Troy Barton" does that mean he does what he says he does ???


Not at all but it is his real name....I met Troy even b4 I found TG....

okosh
04-19-2011, 12:25 AM
Taking bets now on my demise. Dates please and lets see the money.

OKosh is of fame imo and a huge thorn in the TG mentality. He stung them hard.

Great job Mate.

And I'll sting them again....Sooner then you think.....

There is still the small matter that I mentioned in post #111 in this thread.....Details to be posted real sooooon.....

path2prosperity
04-19-2011, 01:52 AM
Not at all but it is his real name....I met Troy even b4 I found TG....

If you are right (as you usually are), that the owner of TG and MMG are one and the same, it makes sense of my information that Mutt has a new owner helper with MCFs. The owner of these three boards has reassembled the Smirnow mods to work for him. Mutt, Sydney (who is MGMs ISPY), Jessi (TG's Mystical), Troy Barton and another who ran one of the hyip monitors. ( begins with R I think), Troy also ran a hyip monitor.

It also ties in with the hate/smear campaign against me. I became a very active naysayer on ASA, TG and WLD because I had to put my own plans for Path2prosperity on ice for nearly four years and defend myself against the accusations that I was part of the failed Smirnow Pathway2prosperity scam. These mods know that I was a thorn in the flesh to Smirnow and that I knew each one of them well enough to send them proverbial thunderbolts from the safe sanctuary of my own (not widely published) domain.

Troy Barton was the weakest link in the chain and he was almost annihilated when The Safelist was attacked and forced to close. Joseph has replaced Troy as the weakest link. I do not think that Troy knew much about autosurf(dot)net but Joseph is clearly one of the independent "bright sparks" LOL, that guided the P2p mods in the absence of the Nickers master..

Is Joseph the new “cookie” or chris007?

okosh
04-19-2011, 07:00 PM
If you are right (as you usually are), that the owner of TG and MMG are one and the same,


This has never been disputed by anyone to my knowledge.....
Sure it was kept quiet that both MMG and TG are now owned by Brian but even they themselves never denied it....


Is Joseph the new “cookie” or chris007?

Not even close IMO....