Talk Gold Mods On A Banning Spree

[EagleOne]

Naaaa....Joseph only deletes individual threads at the admins request...Wonder what he charges for the service??....

So just to recap....
We got one mod deleting threads by request....
Another who invents MPD so he can ban those he don't like....
And a 3rd mod who looks to have at least 3 user names....

The things that make ya go Hmmmmmm :RpS_unsure:

I can't wait for the "reveal" of the mod with the MPD's especially when I was banned for their so-called claim I had a MPD, which of course I didn't. Can't even man-up they lied about me having MPD's all while their mod does. They don't have the balls to come here and post. They are nothing more than petty liars. I doubt if they really know what a "real" MPD are, as they only deal in "made-up" ones.

When tick-tack and Joseph's IQ's collectively hit 75, they should sell.

[laidback]

I can't wait for the "reveal" of the mod with the MPD's especially when I was banned for their so-called claim I had a MPD, which of course I didn't. Can't even man-up they lied about me having MPD's all while their mod does. They don't have the balls to come here and post. They are nothing more than petty liars. I doubt if they really know what a "real" MPD are, as they only deal in "made-up" ones.

When tick-tack and Joseph's IQ's collectively hit 75, they should sell.

What I find really pathetic is that it takes a vote of the mods to reverse an incorrect mod decision...! That is a whole lot like asking a felon to find himself guilty...! What is the point of having administrators if they can't administrate? If you allow the mods, many of whom participate in the scams, to bypass the rules, of course they are going to skew enforcement in favor of the ponzis, pimps, and shills, and against voices of reason.

@Lynn. They should sell now, everybody else is shorting already...!

[littleroundman]

What I find really pathetic is that it takes a vote of the mods to reverse an incorrect mod decision...

Why would you believe that story about needing a vote ???

It's Talkgold we're talking about here.

It's not as if we're talking about a forum known for its' honesty, integrity and strict adherence to the "truth"

It exists solely for the purpose of promoting and profiting from HYIP ponzi games which are all lies and fantasies.

What's more, Talkgold makes no apologies for doing so.

Anything else is merely an attempt to rationalize and/or justify the fact.

[baylee]

Why would you believe that story about needing a vote ???

It's Talkgold we're talking about here.

It's not as if we're talking about a forum known for its' honesty, integrity and strict adherence to the "truth"
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I see the Nazi Pinocchio is deleting threads again.

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[okosh]

I can't wait for the "reveal" of the mod with the MPD's

I'm keen to reveal the mod with MPD myself....Problem is that Geoff won't committ to doing the right thing once proof is posted.....
I'll give him one more chance then I may just have to post it anyway....

Oh to be a fly on the wall in the TG mod folder when I drop this bombshell :RpS_laugh:

[laidback]

I'm keen to reveal the mod with MPD myself....Problem is that Geoff won't committ to doing the right thing once proof is posted.....
I'll give him one more chance then I may just have to post it anyway....

Oh to be a fly on the wall in the TG mod folder when I drop this bombshell :RpS_laugh:

Think about it, Geoff can't commit to do the right thing because doing the wrong thing is how they make their money...! Hypocrisy is like pregnancy, you can't be a little of either...!

[okosh]

Someone I can trust turned up at the WL thread and I have sent part 1 of the proof to them for confirmation....
That person is Patryn who some of you will know from TG.....
Once he replies part 2 will be posted for all to see and the TG Super-Mod with MPD will be exposed.....

[path2prosperity]

I have placed an appeal in the waring zone of that (potentially good) amalgum of cyberberspace dwellers. I was invited by somebody some here know and trust , to pitch my tent there. It was that persons opinion, there could no need to for other boards. I do not echo that statement because there are always "horses for courses." I liked the place before the bans and deletions started.

I have pitched a tent there for the time being, as the eternal optimist in me thinks, that there is a chance somebody will start to use the ban/unban buttons in a more responsible way.

[okosh]

I was invited by somebody some here know and trust , to pitch my tent there. It was that persons opinion, there could no need to for other boards. I do not echo that statement because there are always "horses for courses." I liked the place before the bans and deletions started.


This would be the same person who often tells others to read many boards??....The same person who complained that they never got a mention here at realscam??.....

My advice to you Judy is to go back and tell her that you on "walkabout" so you'll visit any board you want to visit.....You could also tell her that the "Register" button worked here last time I checked and that she's welcome to make a user name :RpS_wink:

Actually it's a good time for her to visit since tonight I hope to be exposing her fellow mod who has MPD....
No need for her to comment since as she's well known for saying, "1(user name) + 1 = 1 too many :RpS_laugh:

[okosh]

And the TG Super-Mod with MPD is none other than......


Drum roll please.....



The Super-mod who looks after the sports betting folder and posts as "Kingmod".....

A link to a post by Kingmod......
Sports Betting FORUM RULES! Everyone Read! - Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/r146037-.html)

If you scroll to the end of the post you will see 2 links in Kingmod's Sig...
The first one is for "PinnacleSports"....
PinnacleSports is a sports betting site....And like most others they have an affiliate program where you can earn by refering others....
Click on the PinnacleSports link in Kingmod's sig and you will see that it's a reff link....
Kingmods reff ID or user name is "xpurewin"
Best Odds for Online Sports Betting at Pinnacle Sports | Champions League Odds |*NHL & NBA Playoff*Odds (http://www.pinnaclesports.com/default.aspx?)refer=xpurewin

Just like with a hyip or surf each member of pinnacle gets their own unique refferal link.....

So what are the chances of 3 unrelated people promoting the same reff link??....
2 people promoting the same link can be explained as one being a newb so they stuffed up and promoted their uplines link....
But when 3 people promote the same link this is no mistake and IMO there can be only one explanation....

Kingmod joined TG in September 2006.....But this was not Kingmod's first user name.....

In March 2005 "Purewinners.com" joined TG....And ran a website by the same name....

In May 2005 Purewinners promoted the same "xpurewin" reff link in these posts at TG.....
(link to post is bellow screenshot).....

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t193/okosh3466/Kingmod3.jpg
Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - Anybody know the best sports book? (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=140070&postcount=24)


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And here....

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http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t193/okosh3466/Kingmod4.jpg
Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - Anybody know the best sports book? (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=140273&postcount=26)


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And then again in September 2005 Purwinners again promoted the same "xpurewin" reff link.....

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http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t193/okosh3466/Kingmod2.jpg
Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - Sports Hyip: Purewinners.com/bigbettors.html (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=264148&postcount=1)



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In October 2005 "Milan Patel" joined TG......

And in Feb 2009 whilst Kingmod was already a Super-mod and the one looking after the sportsbook folder "Milan Patel" made this post in that folder.....

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http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t193/okosh3466/Kingmod1.jpg

Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - Sportsbook with highest initial deposit bonus? (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2931598&postcount=6)

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Those who follow the sports folder would know that the folder is not that busy and that Kingmod reads all posts and deletes all spam and is well known for moving threads to advertising if that is what he/she feels the thread is aimed at doing....
In fact there have been a number of threads in that folder over the past 3 years or so complaining about how tough Kingmod is in that regard.....

So why did Kingmod allow the post from "Milan Patel" which was blatant spamming of a reff link to remain??......
The answer is because it was Kingmod's reff link that was being spammed and because Kingmod hoped to profit from that post.....

[path2prosperity]

And the TG Super-Mod with MPD is none other than
Drum roll please.....The Super-mod who looks after the sports betting folder and posts as "Kingmod".....[

Glad you have spotted one bad apple. I have never heard of the woman but if they would unban you, Lynne and some others, I would be happy to spend most of my time online, there. There is a core of talent over there which should be cultivated not inhibited and I have old friends who object to the ban including the TG member who said that you could use her already (above the radar) board to give your voice more volume .

[Soapboxmom]

Glad you have spotted one bad apple. I have never heard of the woman but if they would unban you, Lynne and some others, I would be happy to spend most of my time online, there. There is a core of talent over there which should be cultivated not inhibited and I have old friends who object to the ban including the TG member who said that you could use her already (above the radar) board to give your voice more volume .
P2P,

TG is never going to unban any of us that post the facts and truth behind the many scams advertised on that board. It is nothing more than a scam promotion forum and that is how it generates income and sells ads that make money for the owners and top dogs. The only "core of talent" TG wants is scam promoters who will pay for the advertising. I was banned for posting solely about Broker Jones and his Oceanbottom nonsense. So, it is obvious legitimate posters with anything intelligent to say are not likely to be welcomed back.

I posted on the hyipdiscussion forum for months in a herculean effort to get Porsperity Automated Systems exposed for the fraud it was. I was constantly threatened and harassed for my truth telling. Of course, when the SEC shut them down for promoting a pyramid scheme disguised as an investment, I did get the last laugh. I left the forum though as it wasn't worth the headache to deal with the clown patrol there.

Folks who are legitimately interested in exposing scams will go to those forums for the sole purpose of doing that, but will not last long as they are clearly at cross purposes with the intent of the forum. If you are not happy here, then by all means go over there and set up your tent. If you are going to invite others or continue that line of conversation it needs to be done in PMs.

I seems more than a little odd to have posters on a legitimate site like this one praising a scam promotion site like TG. :RpS_blink:

Soapboxmom

[path2prosperity]

P2P,

I posted on the hyipdiscussion forum for months in a herculean effort to get Porsperity Automated Systems exposed for the fraud it was. I was constantly threatened and harassed for my truth telling.

I seems more than a little odd to have posters on a legitimate site like this one praising a scam promotion site like TG. :RpS_blink:

Soapboxmom

You could try posting some up to date news about PAS which is still being promoted on Adlandpro by a poster with a huge downline. She claims it is "The Humanitarian Bank." A male member of Adlandpro and RS tells me, that The Humanitarian Bank not a scam Is The Humanitarian Bank a scam? pt is the perso who is posting those facts on Adland a scammer?

This is a new forum and you have stated that there were a lot of good scam busters on TG whom you invited here. Not all have accepted the invitation.

THERE WERE good scam busters on scam.com. Have you recruited all of them?

This forum can not be the eyes and ears of the world. Your membership is far too small to be able to sort the sheep from the goats when you are competing with much bigger outfits like the ones which I have already mentioned and The Warrior Forum.

[laidback]

You could try posting about the PAS that on Adlandpro as a poster is claiming it is "The Humanitarian Bank" which a male member here tells me, is not scam.

This is a new forum and you have stated that there were a lot of good scam busters on TG whom you invited here. Not all have accepted the invitation.

THERE WERE good scam busters on scam.com. Have you recruited all of them?

This forum can not be the eyes and ears of the world. Your membership is far too small to be able to sort the sheep from the goats when you are competing wirh outfits like the ones which I have already mentioned and The Warrior Forum.

EARTH to JUDY! Wakey, Wakey, Dear! If Talkgold were interested in any sort of "truth" they wouldn't have manufactured evidence to use to ban Lynne and Arty, or use the lame excuse that admin can't correct wrongdoing by a mod! They have even banned members for posts on OTHER FORUMS!!!
Any "true" naysayers left at TG best serve the effort by posting there until an excuse is found to ban them. Actually the term "naysayer" is misleading, and implies a negative outlook that is false, but that's a whole other philosophical question.
The point is: TalkCrap makes its money from scams advertising their "opportunities", and allowing criticism of those programs is not in their best interest, and bans and post or thread deletions are their most effective way to control that criticism...! The sad truth is, if they allow you to continue to post at TG, it means they view you as ineffective at criticizing their, "advertisers"...!

[path2prosperity]

Is anybody going to comment on The Warrior Forum. Will anybody here state, if he or she places this board in the genre "usual suspect forums?"

[path2prosperity]

The sad truth is, if they allow you to continue to post at TG, it means they view you as ineffective at criticizing their, "advertisers"...!

That is true "laidback" Thanks for reminding me that I had better post something about DrDave, manolo/strogadoz and Carl Haarvaldson on TG.

[Soapboxmom]

You could try posting some up to date news about PAS which is still being promoted on Adlandpro by a poster with a huge downline. She claims it is "The Humanitarian Bank." A male member of Adlandpro and RS tells me, that The Humanitarian Bank not a scam Is The Humanitarian Bank a scam? pt is the perso who is posting those facts on Adland a scammer?
That is exactly the problem we have been addressing. PAS as shown in my post here (http://www.realscam.com/f17/prosperity-automated-systems-bill-osterhout-shut-down-sec-225/)was shut down years ago. There is no reason to go into that unless there is an update on the shysters involved that is verifiably linked to the original pyramid scam that can be intelligently documented and discussed. The scammer-in-chief Bill Osterhout has disappeared in the night as far as I know.

This is a new forum and you have stated that there were a lot of good scam busters on TG whom you invited here. Not all have accepted the invitation.

We are an open discussion forum and not a recruitment scheme. We are beating a dead horse here.

THERE WERE good scam busters on scam.com. Have you recruited all of them?

I don't think it was any secret why I and others left Scam and just where some of us decided to make our new home. Again, we are an open forum and could easily be found by anyone who wants to contribute. And, as almost all the posters on Scam and here are anonymous who is to say exactly who is doing what where. Many who come on here are not using dedicated IPs. I am not interested in discussing this any further.

This forum can not be the eyes and ears of the world. Your membership is far too small to be able to sort the sheep from the goats when you are competing with much bigger outfits like the ones which I have already mentioned and The Warrior Forum.
For the last time there is no competition. This forum is not built around generating funds by advertising scams as that hole TG and others are. When the owner decides that a few unobstrusive ads should be added to help fund the operation of the forum I think that should be very welcome as it will be done only to support the fine work of so many volunteer bloggers.

Now, this subject can be put to rest. If anyone is not happy here then do park in your tent at TG.

Thanks,

Soapboxmom

[littleroundman]

Is anybody going to comment on The Warrior Forum. Will anybody here state, if he or she places this board in the genre "usual suspect forums?"

Why would anyone want to comment about another forum in a thread which was started to point out that moderators on Talkgold are banning anyone who speaks out against HYIP ponzi scams ??

[littleroundman]

And the TG Super-Mod with MPD is none other than......


Drum roll please.....



The Super-mod who looks after the sports betting folder and posts as "Kingmod".....



C'mon now, Okosh, 'fess up.

Are you really surprised there's deception and two sets of rules at Talkgold???

Do you really expect anyone to:

a) admit it ?
b) do anything about it ?

[laidback]

C'mon now, Okosh, 'fess up.

Are you really surprised there's deception and two sets of rules at Talkgold???

Do you really expect anyone to:

a) admit it ?
b) do anything about it ?

IS THERE AN ECHO IN HERE? here, here, here, here :RpS_wink:

[okosh]

That is true "laidback" Thanks for reminding me that I had better post something about DrDave, manolo/strogadoz and Carl Haarvaldson on TG.

Maybe you could also return to your tent and ask those there for an opinion on their fellow super-mod being busted for MPD....

For that matter....If you did anything except continue to try and derail this thread it would be appreciated :RpS_mad:

[okosh]

C'mon now, Okosh, 'fess up.

Are you really surprised there's deception and two sets of rules at Talkgold???


No, not at all....TG has always had one set of rules for those they like and another set of rules for those who they don't like....


Do you really expect anyone to:

a) admit it ?
b) do anything about it ?

Well Geoff gave the expected answer that "it will be investigated"....
For now I'll give him the chance to do so....
Time will tell if anything is done about it or not....

[littleroundman]

Time will tell if anything is done about it or not....

I hope you have plenty of it to spare while we wait.

[baylee]

I hope you have plenty of it to spare while we wait.

Is it somewhere near when Hell freezes over?

[okosh]

Is it somewhere near when Hell freezes over?

Most likely time enough to give Kingmod a "please explain" followed by roughly 2 weeks of mods discussing what sort of story they can come up with to explain this all away....
Most likely excuse will be that it's not an IP match.....But seriously, how hard is it to have one user name at home....Another from your work PC....Another from the PC at your moms house and so on all with different IP's.....

IMO the only thing that any...cough..."investigation" by Geoff could produce is user names #4, #5 and maybe even #6 which I failed to uncover....

Edit to add...

If you think that Kingmod is the only mod with MPD at TG then think again.....Problem is that I just don't have enough proof to go public.....YET :RpS_wink:

[littleroundman]

If you think that Kingmod is the only mod with MPD at TG then think again.....Problem is that I just don't have enough proof to go public.....YET :RpS_wink:

Well,

I'll be hornswoggled.

You're saying there is dishonesty at a leading HYIP ponzi game forum ????

To quote the Oz comedian:

"I seen it, I heard it, I jus' dooooooooooooooooon' beleeve it.

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

Actually the term "naysayer" is misleading, and implies a negative outlook that is false, but that's a whole other philosophical question.

Great point made by Laidback. I guess one definition of a naysayer in relation to network marketing and HYIP / Ponzi schemes could be

a person who tries to present factual information to readers about fraudulent or deceptive advertising practices relating to illegal or immoral business opportunities which purport to be legitimate ways of earning money.

The thing that suprises me most about bannings on TG, MMG, etc etc is not that the critics of their programs have been banned, but that they were ever allowed to post there in the first place and for so long.

It is highly unlikely that an owner of any HYIP/ponzi forum is unaware that most of the programs discussed and promoted there are illegal and all are immoral as they make promises about income that are unachievable. It is beyond any credibility that they could believe they run forums to discuss real investments or businesses.

It might be good for the image of a HYIP/ponzi forum to allow a few dissenters to criticize the worst examples of these schemes, but once they become effective in disuading people from joining the forum's programs, they become surplus to requirements. That's why forum's like this, Quatloos and, previously scam, exist.

[littleroundman]

It might be good for the image of a HYIP/ponzi forum to allow a few dissenters to criticize the worst examples of these schemes, but once they become effective in disuading people from joining the forum's programs, they become surplus to requirements. That's why forum's like this, Quatloos and, previously scam, exist.

When times get tough,

When there's no "next big thing" on the horizon,

When Firefox has AdBlock Plus and NoScript automatically hiding advertising,

When the "last big thing" burned thousands of people,

When advertising sales fall,

When fraudulent forex dealers put on the pressure,

when the forum is named in court documents.

When joint task forces are sniffing around,

it's time to circle the wagons in Ponziville.

[baylee]

When times get tough,

When there's no "next big thing" on the horizon,

When Firefox has AdBlock Plus and NoScript automatically hiding advertising,

When the "last big thing" burned thousands of people,

When advertising sales fall,

When fraudulent forex dealers put on the pressure,

when the forum is named in court documents.

When joint task forces are sniffing around,

it's time to circle the wagons in Ponziville.

I agree, the wagons are in a circle and it seems forwardone is sweating bullets and lying his tail off but then again that is nothing new as the nazi leads the way.

[okosh]

I agree, the wagons are in a circle and it seems forwardone is sweating bullets and lying his tail off but then again that is nothing new as the nazi leads the way.

Looks like they not even bothering to investigate or take any action....
The official reply to a mod with MPD is, It's our forum we'll do as we please.....

[littleroundman]

Looks like they not even bothering to investigate or take any action....
The official reply to a mod with MPD is, It's our forum we'll do as we please.....

And the more people who realize that's how things work in the HYIP ponzi world, the better off the world will be.

If everyone knew it was ALL smoke, mirrors and fantasy, there wouldn't be a problem.

Well, other than the small inconvenient fact what they're doing is highly illegal, that is.

[laidback]

Looks like they not even bothering to investigate or take any action....
The official reply to a mod with MPD is, It's our forum we'll do as we please.....

...So, why bother to publish rules if the members can't rely on the freaking board to follow them? Why don't they just have a statement such as:
" This is OUR board that we will run as we see fit! If we don't like you or agree with what you have to say, YOU"RE GONE...!" At least then there would be SOMETHING true on their site..!!!

[laidback]

Incidentally, I continue to follow the developments at Web-life, (I can't post there because they conveniently delete my user name and never send a confirmation e-mail) and "forwardone" is giving away free drivel by the pound!

Quite honestly the fact it has come from someone such as yourself makes absolutely no difference to how it is dealt with. What Brian is saying is that there are occasions where admins and mods will create additional usernames for perfectly legitimate reasons.Maybe! Show us where that is the case here!

But, a distinction has to be made between someone doing it for test purposes, say, and someone perhaps doing it to benefit from the use of ref links by inventing other names. I would think that this would be limited to Admin,not mod!

It wouldn't be right to just fire a mod and ban him without giving that person the opportunity to put their side of the story, which is why it might appear nothing is happening. Things are happening, but have to be done with due process.Hogwash!! Where were Lynn and Arty's due process when it was pointed out conclusively that they were two different people?

If you have followed the history of TG over the years you should know that mods do get fired, and banned, in the case of proven wrongdoing, and that hasn't changed....but since pinnochio is their most "productive" mod, they like him and his abuses of power are irrelevant???

[EagleOne]

What has been most fascinating to me is to see them finally admitting on an open forum what we all knew all along, but the masses didn't. Okosh has exposed them for what and who they truly are to the masses, and it has opened a lot of eyes. Now all can see their hypocracy on display, and that the owners, admins, mods, and forums are truly a dictatorship; and do not tolerate a free exchange of ideas as they like to portray themselves as doing. Kudos to a job well done. :RpS_thumbsup::RpS_thumbsup::RpS_thumbsup:

It was a first when one of the mods stated on an open forum he was out to ban me for any excuse he could find or make up, and then did. I did appreciate at least he was honest about saying it, but then had to be dishonest and lie in how he did it. All he really had to do was just ban me, not lie about it.

The old saying, "Live by the sword, you die by the sword" may just come true in the future. I am just glad they have finally been exposed, and they did it in their own words.

[okosh]

Okosh has exposed them for what and who they truly are to the masses, and it has opened a lot of eyes. Now all can see their hypocracy on display, and that the owners, admins, mods, and forums are truly a dictatorship; and do not tolerate a free exchange of ideas as they like to portray themselves as doing. Kudos to a job well done. :RpS_thumbsup::RpS_thumbsup::RpS_thumbsup:

Thank you for the kind words :RpS_smile:

Just to update what's happening with the MPD mod.....

Geoff and Brian claimed at web-life that something would be done.....They said they were going to give Kingmod a chance to give his side of the story b4 any action is taken...
Well Kingmod shows as being online today.....As expected Kingmod's sig has been deleted....
Too little to late Kingmod as there are no shortage of people who seen your sig which was a vital part of the proof that you have MPD....

A special thank you to those here at real-scam to who I trusted the information to some months back and who did a great job to keep it quiet. :RpS_smile:

[okosh]

Latest news....

Kingmod has been banned for MPD :RpS_smile:

Wish it could have been the Nazi who got banned but his day will come.....

[EagleOne]

Latest news....

Kingmod has been banned for MPD :RpS_smile:

Wish it could have been the Nazi who got banned but his day will come.....

:RpS_thumbsup::RpS_thumbsup::RpS_thumbsup::RpS_thu mbsup: Great JOB!

[laidback]

Latest news....

Kingmod has been banned for MPD :RpS_smile:

Wish it could have been the Nazi who got banned but his day will come.....

Great Job, mate...!
I am curious why it is only a "banned", and not "permanently banned" as usually happens for MPD...?

[littleroundman]

[COLOR="deepskyblue"]I am curious why it is only a "banned", and not "permanently banned" as usually happens for MPD...?

No, you're not,

you know EXACTLY why.

[laidback]

No, you're not,

you know EXACTLY why.

Well, yeah, you're right. I am actually more interested in what the BS answer would be...!

[path2prosperity]

Congrats "okosh". Extremely impressed.

[okosh]

Congrats "okosh". Extremely impressed.

Hey, I'm an Aussie....So There was no f'ing way I was going down without taking at least one of them bastards with me :RpS_wink:

And thanks to Eddie Haskell for starting thread about it at TG....Was a real funny read....Especially the bit where TwitTack done a complete back-flip after his previous post where he laughed at the possibility of one of his fellow mods having MPD....

[EagleOne]

Well, having quite the "spirited" discussion at Web Life about my ban. I applaud them for allowing the discussion to continue without warnings flying around everywhere. Looking forward to seeing what develops out of all this. I just appreciate being able to put it out there in the open for all to read and make up their own minds. It is definitely interesting.

[okosh]

Looking forward to seeing what develops out of all this.
Not a thing.....And in case you haven't noticed yet the questions got a little hard for Geoff and Brian to answer so they have stopped posting.....

[EagleOne]

Not a thing.....And in case you haven't noticed yet the questions got a little hard for Geoff and Brian to answer so they have stopped posting.....

I guess it was something I said. :RpS_lol::RpS_lol: I'm not a bit surprised they haven't responded. They know they are now in a corner and any way out they take is not a good one for them. So they cannot say anything.

[okosh]

Just in case it gets accidentally deleted I'm doing C&P from TG.....

This is a post from Brian in reply to the latest google litigation regarding scam adds.....

Of course right on cue the forum Nazi Joseph came in to end the discussion....


Google unknowingly accepted ads from a fraudulent company. TG "only solicits" ads from criminal programs.


#1 TG Doesn't "Only" solicit ads from criminal programs. Are you saying every single ad on this site is from a criminal enterprise? Can you point out even one ad here that you can prove is an absolute scam?
#2 Any program which is found as a scam is removed immediately.
#3 There is a difference between a publisher (Magazine, website, Tv Station, or newspaper) being simply an ad placer, versus the setup that Google has. They benefit directly from sales and or clicks on that ad, as well as take part in the setup of the given ad. Talk to Any US attorney specializing in the matter. There has been no legislation as of yet in the US which puts responsibility on the shoulders of the publisher unless the said publisher is earning based on sales, clicks, or leads, or that publisher has taken part in the creation of the ad in any way. Thus the difference between a publisher who has Adsense on their site, or sells ads for a fixed rate on their page versus Google. On the other hand if the Owners of Talkgold were earning referral commission or getting paid for each click on an ad, or created the banners which have false claims on them, and the site is a scam, their could possibly be action taken again the forum as a publisher.

As a condition to the sale of the forum a couple years back, several attorneys signed off on the business model of the forum, and provided documents displaying the legal frameworks of such an ad model. The Laws in the UK are actually more strict when it comes to publishers rights, however even so, there has never been a documented case in the UK that I am aware of, of a site getting sued for simply publishing an ad on their site without an incentive other than a fixed rate sale. If you find one please be sure to post it.

As for what you claimed, that Google "Unknowingly accepted ads to a fraudulent company," that is incorrect. The DOJ is suing them for knowingly accepting ads to not a fraudulent site, but rather a site which was performing illegal business in the United States by selling illegal drugs (Drugs needing a perscription to buy).
Relevent to the TalkGold business model? - Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/r328694-.html)

[okosh]

Are you saying every single ad on this site is from a criminal enterprise?
Over 95% are....

[littleroundman]

All the excuses in the world and all the "attorneys sign offs" will count for nothing the day an agency decides enough is enough and decides to go after the forum.

One or two letters putting Talkgold on notice they are running suspect ads and the onus shifts from people having to "prove" the HYIPs are illegal to Talkgold having to "prove" they are not.

All it will take is a change in tactics by said agencies or an increase in will on the part of their political masters and the excrement will impact the revolving air circulation device.

IM(very)HO, both Talkgold and MMG will remain untouched right up until the moment the powers-that-be decide it's no longer expedient to allow them to do so.

Anyone who believes either or any of the usual suspect forums has a long term future or are flying unobserved "under the radar" probably still believes in the Easter Bunny and AdSurf Daily will be back.

[calebjor]

Hi Everyone,

I'm an Ex-Folder Moderator from Talkgold Forum. Nice to see everyone here.

I have copied my reply below to Super Moderators who accused me for abuse my Moderator position in the Folder Moderator Corner Forum and pasted my post into "Your Money, Patience & Trust Get Paid Handsomely Here" Thread at Talkgold Forum. I saw my last post explaining my side of the story was gone at Talkgold Forum.

I think maybe freedom of speech no longer exists at Talkgold Forum.

Below was my reply.


I'm glad you're confident.

It seems the the main 3 people posting in this SCAM are heavily involved including our EX Moderator Calebjor.

It's dissapointing to see Moderators who we trust get involved with scams and then abuse their positions.

Hi Ticktack,

Thank you for your post.

I have already previously explained to the Super Moderators the reasons why I have edited my own posts and also Shawnlim88's post in the Folder Moderator Corner Forum. I have only edited 16 posts of my own and 1 post of Shawnlim88's post.

I will just copy and paste my reply below to Super Moderators who accused me for abuse my Moderator position in the Folder Moderator Corner Forum.

I have paid to join the "Normal Level" plan on June 17th, 2010. So therefore I'm no different from other members. Only normal members could read all Company Announcments via SMICAP virtual office only. I have respected the other member who told me not to post that particular Company's Announcement at Talkgold Forum by removing the company Announcements.

I think I did not abuse my Moderator position. I think I have to respect both SMICAP company and the other member and trying to find a balance point between both parties. Therefore I did what I did in which I thought would be helpful to both parties. I have explained what I have to explain. I think SMICAP company is a legitimate and reliable company. I don't even have the intention to scam anyone.

I have spoken against SMICAP company before at "Programs that are more than 3 years on the market" Thread before I have joined the "Normal Level" plan on June 17th, 2010. But I was convinced that SMICAP company is a legitimate and reliable company and that was why I have joined the "Normal Level" plan on June 17th, 2010. There were two Talkgold Forum members who have spoken against SMICAP company at "Your Money, Patience & Trust Get Paid Handsomely Here" Thread. Those two member were "HYIP Lies" and "Shipdit". Did I give them a warning or even permanently ban those two members who have spoken against SMICAP company? Well, the answer is no. No one ever forced me to join the Participation Levels at SMICAP company's website and neither did I force anyone to join the Participation Levels. Everyone has the freedom to speak ans whether or not to join the Participation Levels at SMICAP company's website as well as other programs. I think the discussions was rather fruitful in this thread.

I have never opened up a HYIP, Exchange company, and/or even PTC websites in the past. I have never promoted SMICAP company's website and other websites in my Signature even at other Forums e.g. MMG Forum. I'm not even the Founder of SMICAP company and other programs. I'm just a normal member like the other members. I believe I'm not the only one who have sign up for an account at SMICAP company's website. I could witness this too.

If you and/or other Super Moderators still think that I was abusing my Moderator position then this is entirely up to you and them. As I have previously mentioned that I have to show my respect to both SMICAP company and the other members at Talkgold Forum.

I think I have been fair and respect other members at Talkgold Forum when I was a Moderator.

I think it would be better for the Talkgold Forum members to decide and judge whether I have abuse my Moderator position.

Caleb

[littleroundman]

Hi Everyone,

I'm an Ex-Folder Moderator from Talkgold Forum. Nice to see everyone here.

Lies,

deceit,

treachery,

more lies,

justification,

laying blame,

rationalizing,

lies,

OH, and before I forget:

more-bloody-lies
Caleb

I get it,

you're really Ashton Kucher and we've all just been punked.

What a hoot !!

A scammer just got caught trying to scam other scammers and he's all over the internet trying to justify what he's done.

Give it up, Ashto......err........child....err......Caleb.

You've been busted trying to influence the outcome of what was already fake to your own advantage.

Suck it up, cupcake.

There's nothing you can do or say to alter the facts.

"Caleb" was trying to rip off those who ripoff others, tried to rationalize what he had done, got caught and is too immature and/or dishonest to bow out gracefully.

[calebjor]

I get it,

you're really Ashton Kucher and we've all just been punked.

What a hoot !!

A scammer just got caught trying to scam other scammers and he's all over the internet trying to justify what he's done.

Give it up, Ashto......err........child....err......Caleb.

You've been busted trying to influence the outcome of what was already fake to your own advantage.

Suck it up, cupcake.

There's nothing you can do or say to alter the facts.

"Caleb" was trying to rip off those who ripoff others, tried to rationalize what he had done, got caught and is too immature and/or dishonest to bow out gracefully.

Hi Littleroundman,

I have never scammed anyone and don't have the intention to scam anyone. I'm wondering why people are so biased and closed minded.

I'm just a normal member who have paid to join the "Normal Level" plan on June 17th, 2010 in their company.

Caleb

[wserra]

I'm an Ex-Folder Moderator from Talkgold Forum.

Kinda like, "I'm Bernie Madoff, Jr". Or "I'm an assistant branch manager with Fly-By-Night Savings and Loan". Not something to be proud of.


I think maybe freedom of speech no longer exists at Talkgold Forum.

"Maybe"? If there was any kind of free exchange there, the various posters over the years who tried to inform visitors that all of the "programs" they push are obvious, clumsy ponzis wouldn't have been banned.


I think SMICAP company is a legitimate and reliable company.

Then you're one of two things: an idiot or a scammer. There are no other options.

SMICAP's own site (http://smicap.com/) tells you almost nothing - but that's enough to raise all sorts of red flags. You say the thing's been in existence for three years; for how long has the "Know More" page been "Coming Soon"? Still, this page (http://smicap.com/vo/egames/) shows the type of thing they do - play "egames" with "virtual shares".

Someone who appears to be one of their main shills gives more information (http://www.yeoonline.com/smicap/). First, s/he assures the reader that "This is NOT a Ponzi, MLM, pyramid, get-rich-quick scheme, nor scam, nor gambling"; such assurances are a fairly reliable sign that the subject is in fact all of those. The writer goes on to explain what you do: play "the online website games (virtual shares / eShares / sToken / tokens)". S/He claims returns of over 200% annually. Those of us who've been around a while will recognize this.

Here in the US, a decade or so ago some scammers tried to do the same thing - they called it "Stock Generation". The SEC shut it down as a fake securities-based ponzi scheme, approved by the First Circuit Court of Appeals. The Court's description (http://www.ca1.uscourts.gov/pdf.opinions/01-1176-01A.pdf):
an opportunity to purchase shares in eleven different "virtual companies" listed on the website's "virtual stock exchange." SG arbitrarily set the purchase and sale prices of each of these imaginary companies in biweekly "rounds," and guaranteed that investors could buy or sell any quantity of shares at posted prices. SG placed no upper limit on the amount of funds that an investor could squirrel away in its virtual offerings.
...
SG ... boasted that investing in those shares was a "game without any risk." To this end, its website announced that the privileged company's shares would unfailingly appreciate, boldly proclaiming that "[t]he share price of [the privileged company] is supported by the owners of SG, this is why its value constantly rises; on average at a rate of 10% monthly (this is approximately 215% annually)."SMICAP can't even invent its own fictionalized return.

After concluding that this BS was an investment contract rather than just a "game", the First Circuit goes on to find that "the arrangement described in the SEC's complaint fairly can be characterized as either a Ponzi or pyramid scheme":
As long as [the company that issued the "virtual shares"] continued to receive net capital infusions, existing shareholders could dip into the well of funds to draw out their profits or collect their commissions. But all of them shared the risk that new participants would not emerge, cash flow would dry up, and the underlying pool would empty.Conclusion: ponzi. U.S. operations shut down, U.S. assets seized.


But I was convinced that SMICAP company is a legitimate and reliable company

And you would be either wrong or lying. Since I don't know you, I can't say which.

[littleroundman]

I'm wondering why people are so biased and closed minded.

Caleb

Oh, I dunno,

take your pick:

Experience,

common sense,

integrity,

morals.

So, young Caleb,

pray tell,

are you saying you DIDN'T use your mod powers to alter and/or edit posts ???

Are you claiming you DIDN'T ignore your fellow mods advice ???

I gotta tell ya,

when even the staff of the most notorious den of thieves on the 'net call you a "pathetic excuse for a human being" and are forced to warn victims a thread is being tampered with by one of their fellow mods, it's highly unlikely you'll be receiving any nominations for the "Net Citizen of the Year" awards any time soon.

Take my advice and go out and get yourself a new nick,

take a few months to reassess your options,

then go and join the "alt.26.knitting.scarves" newsgroup on Usenet.



Good Lord, child,

how low do you have to be to be sacked from Talkgold, of all places, for being too dishonest,



how sad is that ???

[calebjor]

Oh, I dunno,

take your pick:

Experience,

common sense,

integrity,

morals.

So, young Caleb,

pray tell,

are you saying you DIDN'T use your mod powers to alter and/or edit posts ???

Are you claiming you DIDN'T ignore your fellow mods advice ???

I gotta tell ya,

when even the staff of the most notorious den of thieves on the 'net call you a "pathetic excuse for a human being" and are forced to warn victims a thread is being tampered with by one of their fellow mods, it's highly unlikely you'll be receiving any nominations for the "Net Citizen of the Year" awards any time soon.

Take my advice and go out and get yourself a new nick,

take a few months to reassess your options,

then go and join the "alt.26.knitting.scarves" newsgroup on Usenet.



Good Lord, child,

how low do you have to be to be sacked from Talkgold, of all places, for being too dishonest,



how sad is that ???

Hi Littleroundman,

Thank you for your post and your advices. It is greatly appreciated.

I would like to refer to your previous questions.

1) Oh, I dunno,

take your pick:


Experience,

I think I have very little working experience in Moderation work and a novice in Moderation work.


common sense,

I think I have some common sense.


integrity,

I think I have integrity but I think I am reckless and a little bit stubborn when doing Moderation work. I wanted to learn different things in Moderation work. This is a fact of what I think about myself.


morals.

I have started out with good intentions and I think I'm not only responsible to do the Moderation work but also to be like a Customer Support at Talkgold Forum to help other members at Talkgold Forum when I was a Folder Moderator.

I wanted to be fair and respect other members at Talkgold Forum.

So, young Caleb,

pray tell,


are you saying you DIDN'T use your mod powers to alter and/or edit posts ???

A Super Moderator have previously came across a post that I have edited for personal attacks. I was told not to only give a warning to the member and leave the personal attack post intact. I have listened to the Super Moderator's advice and did not edit the personal attack post(s) anymore. If I could remember correctly this was the first time I have been told not to edit a post.

A Super Moderator have noticed me that I was editing out the bad words and referral links. I have been contacted and told by a Super Moderator in private not to edit out the bad words and referral links at Talkgold Forum. I have listened to the Super Moderator's advice and did not edit the bad words and referral links anymore.

I have understood the instructions that was given by a Super Moderator and promised that I will refrain from editing other members' post from now on May 8th, 2011. If I could remember correctly this was the second time I have been told not to edit a post.

A Super Moderator have noticed me that I was editing out some words from my posts and other member's post(s). If I could remember correctly I have edited one or two posts from another member at Talkgold Forum. I have been contacted and told by a Super Moderator in private not to edit posts but I have ignored the advice and will bring this to one of the Administrator's attention at Talkgold Forum. A Super Moderator have asked me what is the editing of posts about. I have replied accordingly that "I think it was directly related to the announcements released via SMI virtual office only. It is rather confidential. But I'm just trying to protect SMICAP company. I would appreciate your understanding." If I could remember correctly this was the third time I have been told not to edit a post.

Then later I have decided to turn myself in and created a thread in the Folder Moderator Corner with a title called "About My Fault for Editing Posts". Below was my further explanation for what I did and why I have edited the posts.

I have signed up at Yeo CH's website for an account at SMICAP company's website on June 17th, 2010. I have joined the "Normal Level" plan on June 17th, 2010. I have actually paid my money to join the "Normal Level" plan on June 17th, 2010. Therefore I am actually involved.

I have been copying the Company Announcements from the SMICAP virtual office and posting Company Announcements at "Your Money, Patience & Trust Get Paid Handsomely Here" Thread at Talkgold Forum since December 2010.

I have copied the Company Announcement dated on Monday, 23 May 2011 from the SMICAP virtual office and posted the Company Announcement at "Your Money, Patience & Trust Get Paid Handsomely Here" Thread at Talkgold Forum on May 23rd, 2011 which was on the same day.

Then later another member called "Shawnlim88" have posted to ask two questions below in "Your Money, Patience & Trust Get Paid Handsomely Here" Thread.


Originally Posted by shawnlim88
Dear Yeo, Caleb,

what is the meaning of VIP accounts?
does VIP acct refer to 5000 account?

thanks for sharing
shawnlim88

I have contacted Yeo CH and asked him the below questions on Monday, May 23, 2011 at 11:42 PM which was related to Shawnlim88's questions and also the questions that I don't know the answer to.


Dear Yeo CH,

I would like to ask two more questions.

1) I would like to know what is "VIP account"?

2) I would like to know what level is "VIP account"?

Your early reply will be greatly appreciated.

Best Regards,
Caleb

On the next day on Tue, May 24, 2011 at 8:34 AM I have received an e-mail reply from Yeo CH below.


Hi,

I presume you came across the 'VIP' from the company's announcement at your Node. It doesn't concern us because both you an I are not VIP = administrators + people who could buy pincode directly from the company.

And, please do not post this particular company's announcement at Talkgold.


Best Regards
Yeo CH

After I have received his reply to my e-mail then I copied Shawnlim88's questions and wrapped [Quote] tags around the selected text in this case would be his questions. After I have done this i have decided to to contact Shawnlim88 in Private to answer his questions.

After answering his questions I have told him that Yeo CH have told me not to post that particular Company's Announcement at Talkgold Forum. Then I said to Shawnlim88 that I have decided to remove the Company Announcements and also his post. I think maybe because of confidential reasons. Also I have immediately said sorry and apologize to Shawnlim88 for any inconvenience caused to him.

Later he replied to my Private Message. I have saved the screenshot conversations with Shawnlim88 into Microsoft Word Document in the past as evidence.


hi Caleb,

no worries, must thank you for editing my post.

i didn't read my pm until now. i try to edit my new post on VIP but can't find the edit post. can you kindly remove or edit my post, pls?

thanks
shawnlim88

I think some of the words was directly related to the Company Announcements released SMI virtual office only. Therefore I think it is rather confidential. So I have edited Shawnlim88's post and also soft deleted his post at that time.

In addition, I have read the Company Announcement dated on March 23rd, 2011. The message in the Company Announcement stated below:


2. There has been reported rumors/speculation via QQ instant messaging system. Please be remind that all announcements will be released VIA SMI virtual office only.

After I have read the above Company Announcement I have decided to remove all the Company Announcements that I have previously posted in the "Your Money, Patience & Trust Get Paid Handsomely Here" Thread at Talkgold Forum. Then this month in June I have came back to "Your Money, Patience & Trust Get Paid Handsomely Here" Thread and find all my posts with Company Announcements that I have previously soft deleted from this thread. I have restored my posts and deleted all the Company Announcements in each of my own posts. I did this and all the above to protect SMICAP company's confidential Company Announcements and also to prevent another member and also myself from maybe violating SMICAP company's rule(s). I was worried that I may be violating the SMICAP company rule(s) is because of a message in the Company Announcement and also Yeo CH have told me not to post that particular Company's Announcement at Talkgold Forum. Therefore I have restored my posts and deleted all the Company Announcements in each of my own posts. In addition, I have also edited the word "VIP" and also the name in which I think maybe if the name of a staff from SMICAP company.

I think I should have contact SMICAP company's staff and ask for their permission first if I'm allowed to copy the Company Announcements from the SMICAP virtual office and post the Announcements at Talkgold Forum.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeo CH have previously sent me 4 e-mails asking me to help him to remove his post at "Does anyone has experience with investment house Atlantic International Partnership" thread at Talkgold Forum. I have previously replied to him twice by e-mail that we do not remove posts. I have e-mails for evidence.

I think I was under high pressure to help Yeo CH to remove his post at "Does anyone has experience with investment house Atlantic International Partnership" thread (Does anyone has experience with investment house Atlantic International Partnership - Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/r316145-.html)).

The other party the offended party felt that Yeo CH's post has cast a bad opinion on AIP, unjustly. He told me that there are those threatening him over a post which related his bad experience 4 years ago. So at that time I felt under high pressure to help them to solve this problem. It was a tough decision. I'm just a middleman in this case. I thought to myself the situation between Yeo CH and Internet Reputation Manager may get even worse if I don't help Yeo CH to soft delete remove his post.


Are you claiming you DIDN'T ignore your fellow mods advice ???

I think I have let the worries, the consequences of not helping other member(s), easily get influenced, easily comply to other members request, and also afraid that I maybe sued by the company(s). I also think that if I don't help my friends and or even other members then maybe they will not help me in the near future if I needed their help.

Therefore I think the above factors made me did what I did when I was a Moderator at Talkgold Forum.

I think I have to respect different parties and trying to find a balance point between those parties.

Best Regards,
Caleb

[calebjor]

Kinda like, "I'm Bernie Madoff, Jr". Or "I'm an assistant branch manager with Fly-By-Night Savings and Loan". Not something to be proud of.



"Maybe"? If there was any kind of free exchange there, the various posters over the years who tried to inform visitors that all of the "programs" they push are obvious, clumsy ponzis wouldn't have been banned.



Then you're one of two things: an idiot or a scammer. There are no other options.

SMICAP's own site (http://smicap.com/) tells you almost nothing - but that's enough to raise all sorts of red flags. You say the thing's been in existence for three years; for how long has the "Know More" page been "Coming Soon"? Still, this page (http://smicap.com/vo/egames/) shows the type of thing they do - play "egames" with "virtual shares".

Someone who appears to be one of their main shills gives more information (http://www.yeoonline.com/smicap/). First, s/he assures the reader that "This is NOT a Ponzi, MLM, pyramid, get-rich-quick scheme, nor scam, nor gambling"; such assurances are a fairly reliable sign that the subject is in fact all of those. The writer goes on to explain what you do: play "the online website games (virtual shares / eShares / sToken / tokens)". S/He claims returns of over 200% annually. Those of us who've been around a while will recognize this.

Here in the US, a decade or so ago some scammers tried to do the same thing - they called it "Stock Generation". The SEC shut it down as a fake securities-based ponzi scheme, approved by the First Circuit Court of Appeals. The Court's description (http://www.ca1.uscourts.gov/pdf.opinions/01-1176-01A.pdf):SMICAP can't even invent its own fictionalized return.

After concluding that this BS was an investment contract rather than just a "game", the First Circuit goes on to find that "the arrangement described in the SEC's complaint fairly can be characterized as either a Ponzi or pyramid scheme":Conclusion: ponzi. U.S. operations shut down, U.S. assets seized.



And you would be either wrong or lying. Since I don't know you, I can't say which.

Hi Wserra,

Recently I have been discussing with another friend from Talkgold Forum about SMICAP company. I have actually decided to stay far away from SMICAP company and also tell my friends and those who were interested in the Participation Levels at SMICAP company's website to stay away from SMICAP company.

I have also sent an e-mail to Yeo CH to request him to remove the website from his Signature. Now I think that SMICAP company operates similar to Stock Generation. In addition, I think there are other claims from Yeo CH that may not be verified and prove to be real. I think I have been brainwashed and blindly believing what Yeo CH claims and says about SMICAP company and the sToken system before over the past year.

Caleb

[littleroundman]

So, young "Caleb"

You've learned some very important lessons, I hope.

*You have no "friends" in the world of HYIP ponzi shills.

* A HYIP ponzi pimp will chew you up and spit you out to make a buck.

* "Yeo CH" and "shawnlim" saw you as a fish with its' mouth wide open asking to be caught.
I'll bet they're sitting back and laughing at how easy it was to use you

In case you, or anyone else is interested, you were a victim of:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Yeo001.jpg

hosted by:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Yeo002.jpg

HINT: The authorities in Singapore look upon 'net fraud as a serious business.

[littleroundman]

Damn,

how stupid am I ??

Just realized that the fraudster who took advantage of silly young "calebjor" and wrecked his reputation,Mr Yeo CH is, in fact, the same low life serial HYIP ponzi pimp and scumbag who posts at Scam.com as YEOCH (http://www.scam.com/member.php?u=123911)

Don't feel too bad, calebjor, your reputation is shot, your money is gone and you can never show yourself again around the HYIP industry, but at least now you know you were suckered in by a professional fraudster and not just some low life off the street.

[calebjor]

Damn,

how stupid am I ??

Just realized that the fraudster who took advantage of silly young "calebjor" and wrecked his reputation,Mr Yeo CH is, in fact, the same low life serial HYIP ponzi pimp and scumbag who posts at Scam.com as YEOCH (http://www.scam.com/member.php?u=123911)

Don't feel too bad, calebjor, your reputation is shot, your money is gone and you can never show yourself again around the HYIP industry, but at least now you know you were suckered in by a professional fraudster and not just some low life off the street.

Hi Littleroundman,

Thank you for your post and comments.

May I ask one question.

1) I would like to know how do I due diligence properly? I think my way of doing diligence was mainly based on reading what other members have to say and if many people say the company is good and positive in Forum(s) then I will believe in what the others say.

2) I would like to know who could I trust on the internet besides myself?

3) I would like to know how could I find out if a member or person is a fraudster?

I would appreciate your comments and advices.

Caleb

[wserra]

A HYIP ponzi pimp will chew you up and spit you out to make a buck.

I have only a single point to add to what LRM writes: All HYIP admins are ponzi pimps, because all HYIPs are ponzis.

Every single one.

[shawnlim]

hi all,
i was baned at TG.

so here i am

shawnlim

[shawnlim]

Dear wserra,


I have only a single point to add to what LRM writes: All HYIP admins are ponzi pimps, because all HYIPs are ponzis.

Every single one.

why don't you try smicap with US$200. and hold it for 2 years.
it will change your mind.

shawnlim

[Soapboxmom]

Dear littleroundman,



why do you so sure that calebjor's money is gone?
shawnlim
We admins here have crystal balls and time travel broomsticks, don't you know. Mine sure work swell!

Soapboxmom

[wserra]

why don't you try smicap with US$200. and hold it for 2 years.

Because, if I use that $200 one cold winter day to start a fire, at least I'll get some heat out of it.

I was going to make another suggestion: why don't you give me the $200, and I'll "try smicap", agreeing to give what may be left of it back to you after two years. But that won't work - you guys cook the books so badly that it would be easy enough to see to it that I made money, while 95% of everyone else lost. After all, even Madoff had to let some marks win sometime.

No, maybe what I'll do is, at random times over the next few months, "try smicap" with different amounts of money in different names, different addresses, different emails. We'll see how much "we" make, and how it goes when (at different times, of course) "we" try to pull "our" money out.

[littleroundman]

Dear wserra,
why don't you try smicap with US$200. and hold it for 2 years.
it will change your mind.

shawnlim


So,

a guy you've never seen before walks up to you in the street.

He says "give me $200 and I promise I'll invest it for you @1 squillion % per year"

He also tells you to make things easier, he won't actually give you any money, but he'll convert your dollars into fibrollated sigglestats and send you an email every now and then telling you how many fibrollated sigglestats you have in your account

Then 5 more guys you've never heard of walk up and tell you they've made lots of money by investing with the first guy.

In fact, one of them tells you he has an account balance of 42 trillion fibrollated sigglestats,

One of the other guys tells you the first guy has a history of fraudulent investment advice. "In fact" he says, "in seven years, every single one of his recommendations turned out to be a fraud"

Every one of the 5 guys then tells you they have never seen a fibrollated sigglestat and none of them know of a single place which accepts fibrollated sigglestats as currency.

Nor have they ever met the first guy before today, but they all say you should trust him because he says he's trustworthy.

So, you pull $200 in cash out of your back pocket, because he won't accept a cheque, hand it over and walk away, knowing you're gonna be rich in 2 years.


R--I--G--H--T.


I can hardly wait.

I'll be right back after I race outside and make sure the Easter Bunny is doing a good job of feeding my Unicorn.


I'd rather stick pins in my eyes.

Foolish child.

[littleroundman]

I would like to know how do I due diligence properly? I think my way of doing diligence was mainly based on reading what other members have to say and if many people say the company is good and positive in Forum(s) then I will believe in what the others say

Your first problem is that your definition of "due diligence" is exactly what ponzi promoters and other fraudsters want you to think it is.Here's what Investopedia (http://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/duediligence.asp)says on the subject:



http://i.investopedia.com/inv/092009/dictionary/book_icon.jpg

What Does Due Diligence - DD Mean?
1. An investigation or audit of a potential investment. Due diligence serves to confirm all material facts in regards to a sale.

2. Generally, due diligence refers to the care a reasonable person should take before entering into an agreement or a transaction with another party.
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Investopedia explains Due Diligence - DD
1. Offers to purchase an asset are usually dependent on the results of due diligence analysis. This includes reviewing all financial records plus anything else deemed material to the sale. Sellers could also perform a due diligence analysis on the buyer. Items that may be considered are the buyer's ability to purchase, as well as other items that would affect the purchased entity or the seller after the sale has been completed.

2. Due diligence is a way of preventing unnecessary harm to either party involved in a transaction. Where in that explanation does it say "due diligence consists of asking strangers what they think about something"

IF you want to play HYIP ponzi games and you don't care about whether you lose your money, due diligence is not necessary.

HYIP ponzis are ALL fantasy games.

They're no more "real" than Eve or World of Warcraft.

NOTHING is what it seems

Anyone who tells you they have a secret or a scheme is lying to you.

There is not one single, solitary "real" business opportunity on Talkgold or MMG or any of the usual suspect forums.

If you understand that and STILL want to play HYIP ponzi games, good luck to you.

It's your money to do with as you wish.

However, if you think ANYTHING to do with HYIP ponzis is "the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth" and that any amount of what you call "due diligence" is going to make one tiny bit of difference, you're in for nothing but heartbreak and an empty wallet.

The whole point of a HYIP ponzi "game" is that it's every man/woman for themselves.

How much money anyone makes depends entirely on his/her ability to keep the fantasy going.

If ANYONE down the line tells the "truth" the game will collapse.

[baylee]

So,

a guy you've never seen before walks up to you in the street.

He says "give me $200 and I promise I'll invest it for you @1 squillion % per year"

He also tells you to make things easier, he won't actually give you any money, but he'll convert your dollars into fibrollated sigglestats and send you an email every now and then telling you how many fibrollated sigglestats you have in your account

Then 5 more guys you've never heard of walk up and tell you they've made lots of money by investing with the first guy.

In fact, one of them tells you he has an account balance of 42 trillion fibrollated sigglestats,

One of the other guys tells you the first guy has a history of fraudulent investment advice. "In fact" he says, "in seven years, every single one of his recommendations turned out to be a fraud"

Every one of the 5 guys then tells you they have never seen a fibrollated sigglestat and none of them know of a single place which accepts fibrollated sigglestats as currency.

Nor have they ever met the first guy before today, but they all say you should trust him because he says he's trustworthy.

So, you pull $200 in cash out of your back pocket, because he won't accept a cheque, hand it over and walk away, knowing you're gonna be rich in 2 years.


R--I--G--H--T.


I can hardly wait.

I'll be right back after I race outside and make sure the Easter Bunny is doing a good job of feeding my Unicorn.


I'd rather stick pins in my eyes.

Foolish child.

Excellent post and very, very, true.

[okosh]

A Super Moderator

G'day Caleb......Loooooooong time no see :RpS_smile:
How's the scamming business treating you these days??.....

Instead of posting "a super-scum said this" or "a super-scum said that" please tell us which super-scum you talking about....Just tell us if it was TwitTack, NAN, Ghs, Forum-Nazi-Joseph or whoever....

My guess is that in this case you talking about the Nazi-Joseph....(??)......

Anyhow....Welcome to Real-Scam :RpS_wink:

[baylee]

[QUOTE=okosh;9423
Instead of posting "a super-scum said this" or "a super-scum said that" please tell us which super-scum you talking about....Just tell us if it was TwitTack, NAN, Ghs, Forum-Nazi-Joseph or whoever....

My guess is that in this case you talking about the Nazi-Joseph....(??)......

:[/QUOTE]

Well, I see the nazi is lying again! He was typing.

[calebjor]

G'day Caleb......Loooooooong time no see :RpS_smile:
How's the scamming business treating you these days??.....

Instead of posting "a super-scum said this" or "a super-scum said that" please tell us which super-scum you talking about....Just tell us if it was TwitTack, NAN, Ghs, Forum-Nazi-Joseph or whoever....

My guess is that in this case you talking about the Nazi-Joseph....(??)......

Anyhow....Welcome to Real-Scam :RpS_wink:

Hi Okosh,

Thank you for your warm welcome to Realscam.com Forum.

I have to respect different parties and I'm not in a position to comment regarding what you have mentioned.

Caleb

[baylee]

Instead of posting "a super-scum said this" or "a super-scum said that" please tell us which super-scum you talking about....Just tell us if it was TwitTack, NAN, Ghs, Forum-Nazi-Joseph or whoever....



:
Ever since you exposed the Hypocrisy of TG and one of their mods and called them on it, I got the idea that they don't like you anymore. Keep on exposing them.

[baylee]

My guess is that in this case you talking about the Nazi-Joseph....(??)......

:

I see that I gave the Nazi an answer but he didn't care for it. So Sorry, NOT

[okosh]

Ever since you exposed the Hypocrisy of TG and one of their mods and called them on it, I got the idea that they don't like you anymore. Keep on exposing them.

Well the longer this goes on the more it shows that what I posted about the Nazi-Joseph, twittack and the others is all true....
Seen the latest BS at web-life??....Geoff is such a scum-bag that he'll tell any lies just to try and shut me up....

Like banning me will ever shut me up....HAHAHAHAHA....Too funny :RpS_laugh:

[EagleOne]

Who the heck is HyipRegulate? Yes I know HyipRegulate is a mod at TG, but who s/he?

[laidback]

Who the heck is HyipRegulate? Yes I know HyipRegulate is a mod at TG, but who s/he?

Notanewbie, Her name is Nan, I think.

[littleroundman]

Notanewbie, Her name is Nan, I think.

That would be nan, as in:Not A Newbie

[EagleOne]

That would be nan, as in:Not A Newbie

Thanks, and this is just too funny. Trying to claim that I was rude and insulting because I called ticktack twittack. Can't wait to see her response to my response. She definitely is not going to like my next post if she thought that was rude and insulting.

[EagleOne]

Hmm, seems the Real Scam thread at WebLife went silent all of a sudden. Just as it was starting to get good, they all seem to have disappeared. Wonder if it was something I said? :RpS_ohmy:

[laidback]

Hmm, seems the Real Scam thread at WebLife went silent all of a sudden. Just as it was starting to get good, they all seem to have disappeared. Wonder if it was something I said? :RpS_ohmy:
Kinda funny how they can't handle getting their own crap shoveled back at them, isn't it...?

[EagleOne]

I guess this means NAN isn't going to accept my apology. Do you think she might not have been as upset (I was rude and insulting) with me as she claimed when I called ticktack numbnuts and twittack?

I guess I should have tossed in world peace, saving the whales and spotted owls in my apology. Then I'm sure she would have accepted it. Especially with her being so sensitive and all.

But I do want to thank them for coming here to read this thread.

[EagleOne]

Well, golddust made a reply to my post about all the derogatory comments that were made about me in the CS thread. Of course she wanted the link to the thread to make sure I had not provoked the insults, which I provided her.

Surprise, surprise :RpS_confused: after making a cursory review, she came to the conclustion there was no harm no foul as all comments were subjective in the eyes of the beholder. :RpS_huh: Hypocrisy is alive and well even on Web Life.

Gotta protect those mods don't you know. :RpS_lol:

Can't believe that NAN did not accept my apology. :RpS_lol: :RpS_lol:

[okosh]

Well, golddust made a reply to my post about all the derogatory comments that were made about me in the CS thread. Of course she wanted the link to the thread to make sure I had not provoked the insults, which I provided her.

Surprise, surprise :RpS_confused: after making a cursory review, she came to the conclustion there was no harm no foul as all comments were subjective in the eyes of the beholder. :RpS_huh: Hypocrisy is alive and well even on Web Life.

Gotta protect those mods don't you know. :RpS_lol:

Can't believe that NAN did not accept my apology. :RpS_lol: :RpS_lol:

TrollDust is no good....She will always tow the company line.

[laidback]

Well Gloryosky kiddies...! Somebody feels that the TG mods are "unfriendly"....! How could he(or she?) possibly conclude that...?

divatri divatri is online now
Amateur Investor

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 47
Default Some Unfriendly Moderators?
Usually, Moderators have a specific job to do which is monitor the forums and keep it clean. I totally agree with what our moderators are currently doing but some of them are not friendly at all. They get mad, upset as soon as you try to ask them what went wrong. We get warned, permanently banned because of warnings being assigned like candies. I hope the administration has any clue of what's going on. I just feel terribly bad for myself along with those who have been banned. As a new member, I should be welcomed warmly and given some tips but instead, they rather warn and ban me. TG will lose it's credibility if you keep doing what you are doing. I totally understand that you have been here for quiet some time but that doesn't give you authority over members at all. I hope this topic won't be interpreted by Moderators as a bad topic, it's just I think there's a lot of things that are solved unfairly. For instance, a Moderator said that I have a duplicate account. I'm using a private VPN and each time I logon, a new IP is assigned, maybe that IP has been used by someone else? I can show you the subscription I am paying for to get that service, it protects my anonymity and i never surf without it. If there's no solution to this, I will see what the administration has to say about it. If they think this is right, then I have nothing else to say. I'll simply pull off my socks and look for another place.

[okosh]

Well Gloryosky kiddies...! Somebody feels that the TG mods are "unfriendly"....! How could he(or she?) possibly conclude that...?

Maybe cos most of the TG mods are so up themselves they think they were born with a better pot to piss in....

Anyway the end result is as expected.....


divatri
Permanently Banned

[Eddie Haskell]

They are friendly to ponzi scammers and pimps of course since they promote and protect illegal frauds. Thats their business.

They will probably give me a warning for saying this but cant since Im banned again at the moment. :RpS_laugh: I would not put it past them to add it to my tally for future bans and warnings though. We all remember baylee getting a warning at Talk Scam for what he said here. It doesnt get much funnier than that.

[littleroundman]

It appears the boys and girls of Talkgold are so busy warning people for not holding their tongue the right way and saying nasty, naughty things, they've forgotten all about doing anything else.

It's been over two weeks now since there was a post in the Club Asteria thread, yet it still hasn't been moved to the "closed programs and scam warnings" folder.

Strange, it's not like anyone is overly busy in the HYIP ponzi biz, at the minute.

One would imagine there'd be plenty of time for housekeeping.

[baylee]

They are friendly to ponzi scammers and pimps of course since they promote and protect illegal frauds. Thats their business.

They will probably give me a warning for saying this but cant since Im banned again at the moment. :RpS_laugh: I would not put it past them to add it to my tally for future bans and warnings though. We all remember baylee getting a warning at Talk Scam for what he said here. It doesnt get much funnier than that.

The Nazi joseph banned me for what I posted here. Too funny but I later heard that his nose grew 6 full inches after that.

[okosh]

The Nazi joseph banned me for what I posted here. Too funny but I later heard that his nose grew 6 full inches after that.

Forum Nazi Joseph has been working overtime....
Just take a look at how many threads there are for the month of July about warnings people got....
Add to that the many that don't even bother to complain and it gives you an idea of just how trigger happy the Nazi and others have become....
No wonder traffic is down....

[okosh]

It appears the boys and girls of Talkgold are so busy warning people for not holding their tongue the right way and saying nasty, naughty things, they've forgotten all about doing anything else.

It's been over two weeks now since there was a post in the Club Asteria thread, yet it still hasn't been moved to the "closed programs and scam warnings" folder.

Strange, it's not like anyone is overly busy in the HYIP ponzi biz, at the minute.

One would imagine there'd be plenty of time for housekeeping.

Well mate it seems they miss us or at least Eugene/MrGSH does :RpS_laugh:

**Thanks to the person(who I won't name) that told me about this post :RpS_smile:


@uinvestcomua: I am sorry Shurick, but we do not have that much time to spend arguing the obvious. Please keep in mind that we do not suggest that people do not invest in your scheme.... People are free to play with scams in my opinion, but as a courtesy we (those who know better) should help them to know what they are dealing with... Problem is that you have made a few mistakes that can cost your company and therefore "investors" PFS (premature folding syndrome).... I am not going to change my opinion, but just for fun of it, since you want excuses, I will make you a deal.... Go to http://realscam.com and post there.... I am interested in two members of that forum to join your program.... They are LittleRoundMan and Okosh. If they join and LRM posts here that they did (Okosh is banned from TG) I will say my "excuse me", regardless of me still believing that your venture is a scam.... Hell, they will probably join just to make me look stupid, but deal is a deal... Go for it...
Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - Uinvest - uinvest.com.ua (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4456440&postcount=246)

[calebjor]

Well Gloryosky kiddies...! Somebody feels that the TG mods are "unfriendly"....! How could he(or she?) possibly conclude that...?

I wonder why "divatri's" thread regarding "Some Unfriendly Moderators?" have disappeared from Talkgold Forum?

Also how come I could not find the member with a username called "divatri" anymore at Talkgold Forum?

Caleb

[littleroundman]

I wonder why "divatri's" thread regarding "Some Unfriendly Moderators?" have disappeared from Talkgold Forum?

Also how come I could not find the member with a username called "divatri" anymore at Talkgold Forum?

Caleb

Their new policies are now obviously set in concrete, so all that remains is to see how they work out in the long run.

Management have made the decision to become just "another" HYIP ponzi forum full of "I got paid" posts and pimps and shills patting each other on the back, so be it.

I looked outside this morning and the sun was still shining and the birds were still singing, so, who cares, really ??

[calebjor]

Hello Littleroundman,

I would like to ask three questions.

1) I would like to know what do you think about the future of Talkgold Forum if the Management continue to operate the way they are operating?

2) I would like to know do you think there would be a decrease in advertising revenue, more and more members leaving and the threads turning into a WarZone in the near future at Talkgold Forum because of the way some of the Super Moderators treat their members?

3) I would like to know do you think that some Super Moderators like to bully and insult other regular members, not respect other members, make members angry and alienate other people at Talkgold Forum?

I think Talkgold Forum is like a concentration camp where members are being tortured.

Your reply would be greatly appreciated.

Caleb

[laidback]

I wonder why "divatri's" thread regarding "Some Unfriendly Moderators?" have disappeared from Talkgold Forum?

Also how come I could not find the member with a username called "divatri" anymore at Talkgold Forum?
Caleb
But...but...but... how can that be...? They have a section called:


Archive (19 Viewing)
Nothing is deleted. It all goes here! but it ain't there either! The "official" explanation will most likely be "accident" as has been claimed for other numerous threads and posts that have disappeared. Interesting that there are members "divatri1", "divatri2", and "divatri3" that have no posts. I did find this, however, so they didn't erase all traces of him:
Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - US public debt 14.21 trillions in March 2011 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4446555&postcount=70)

[baylee]

But...but...but... how can that be...? They have a section called:
but it ain't there either! The "official" explanation will most likely be "accident" as has been claimed for other numerous threads and posts that have disappeared. Interesting that there are members "divatri1", "divatri2", and "divatri3" that have no posts. I did find this, however, so they didn't erase all traces of him:
Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - US public debt 14.21 trillions in March 2011 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4446555&postcount=70)

LOL, The nazi must have had another one of his so called accidents.

[okosh]

Hello Littleroundman,

I would like to ask three questions.

1) I would like to know what do you think about the future of Talkgold Forum if the Management continue to operate the way they are operating?

2) I would like to know do you think there would be a decrease in advertising revenue, more and more members leaving and the threads turning into a WarZone in the near future at Talkgold Forum because of the way some of the Super Moderators treat their members?

3) I would like to know do you think that some Super Moderators like to bully and insult other regular members, not respect other members, make members angry and alienate other people at Talkgold Forum?


What's the matter caleb??.....Are you concerned that TG will close down and that you won't have a place to tell how wonderful an "investment" that uinvest scam is??
Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - Uinvest - uinvest.com.ua (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4462073&postcount=296)
Why don't you make a thread for your favorite scam here in this forum....
And please invite your friend "uinvestcomua" to come also.....


I think Talkgold Forum is like a concentration camp where members are being tortured.

Forum Nazi Joseph and Gsh have been working hard to make this happen.....

[littleroundman]

Caleb,

your questions lead me to believe you are one of those people who has absolutely no idea what you're involved in.

You're talking as if anything involved with HYIP ponzi games is "real" or "fair" or that any HYIP is not a scam.

NOTHING in the world of HYIP ponzi games is "real" It's ALL fantasy.

There ARE no rules.

There's not one, single, solitary component of the HYIP industry which is as it appears.

And that includes Talkgold.

If people are informed, and they want to play HYIP ponzi games, it's their choice and their loss.

But, let's not pretend that any of it is real, or logical or that there's any sort of code of conduct or standards to uphold.

They're ALL scams.

The only difference is whether or not they're scams, big scams or even bigger scams.

It's all pretend.

HYIP owners pretend they are real businesses.

Players pretend they're investing and not gambling

Talkgold pretends it's providing a discussion forum and its' mods pretend they're not part of the pretending.

EVERYONE pretends they aren't greedy bastards whose sole intention is to take as much money from others as they can.

The only difference I can see is some of them are better at rationalizing, justifying and laying blame than others.

[calebjor]

But...but...but... how can that be...? They have a section called:
but it ain't there either! The "official" explanation will most likely be "accident" as has been claimed for other numerous threads and posts that have disappeared. Interesting that there are members "divatri1", "divatri2", and "divatri3" that have no posts. I did find this, however, so they didn't erase all traces of him:
Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - US public debt 14.21 trillions in March 2011 (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4446555&postcount=70)

Thank you Laidback for the information. I wonder why "divatri" is a Guest and how he/she become a Guest.

[okosh]

Thanks to LRM for splitting the thread....Discussion on uinvest can now be found here....
http://www.realscam.com/f8/uinvest-split-talkgold-mods-banning-spree-819/

[littleroundman]

Hmmn,

I knew there was something I forgot to do.

Thanks, Okosh.

[calebjor]

Thank you Littleroundman for splitting the thread.

[okosh]

Well it's business as usual at the TG crime/ponzi forum....

Here is proof that if one wants to profit from the scam/ponzi areana then they MUST pay TG admin a cut of the profits....



You can not start threads for exchanges in there. If you wish to advertise your exchange you must purchase sticky
Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - I want dispute warning that i get & thread deleted reason (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4459095&postcount=2)

[littleroundman]

It's now got to the stage where the "usual suspect" forums and their staff are spitting in the faces of the law/s and openly and unashamedly defying the authorities to go their hardest at stopping them.

The whole situation gives new meaning to the word "impunity"

Throw an Andy Bowdoin or a Charis Johnson under the bus every few years, and the "industry" has a license to print money and thumb their noses at the rest of society.

Talk about the Untouchables.

Elliot Ness himself wouldn't have dared to be so blatant as some of the "usual suspect" forum staff when discussing outright fraud:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/Impunity.jpg

[Eddie Haskell]

What are the the talk gold mods up to these days. I see the site it tanking big time in hits.

talkgold.com 15,998 UVs for September 2011 | Compete (http://siteanalytics.compete.com/talkgold.com)


Whats up with that???

[littleroundman]

One can only assume the Talkgold management must be happy with the situation, as they don't appear to be doing/have done anything about it.

Maybe all the mods need some "quiet time" after the heady days of the AdSurf Daily era.

Don't forget, also, that the MoneyMakerGroup forum and Talkgold are rumoured to be under the same management.

So, whatever the traffic numbers, they'll get you coming AND going.

[okosh]

Don't forget, also, that the MoneyMakerGroup forum and Talkgold are rumoured to be under the same management..

Rumor??...Brian's user name at MMG is "UncleAwesome"....And Geoff is "Realist".....Look them up and you'll see they running the show there...

[EagleOne]

Well, what I thinnk is funny that the "expert" researcher twittack who found my "so-called" other identity, hasn't been able to find out what identity I am using now. :italian_flick:

One would have thought with his great research and investigative skills, he would have uncovered me by now. Hmm, guess this means he was a one-time wonder, OR it was a witch hunt set out to get me. We all know the answer to that one by now. :RpS_biggrin:

[laidback]

Well, what I thinnk is funny that the "expert" researcher twittack who found my "so-called" other identity, hasn't been able to find out what identity I am using now. :italian_flick:

One would have thought with his great research and investigative skills, he would have uncovered me by now. Hmm, guess this means he was a one-time wonder, OR it was a witch hunt set out to get me. We all know the answer to that one by now. :RpS_biggrin:
LOL, maybe the blind hog CAN'T find the acorn...!http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/lol-045.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/skype-emoticons.html)

[EagleOne]

I'm not sure which is funnier, that Twittack can't find my new username or Festa misquoting me on what I said on Patrick Pretty's blog on the WLD CA thread. Guess he was too drunk to notice I was "quoting him." :loser: And he is Mr. Perfect. :RpS_lol:

[Eddie Haskell]

I'm not sure which is funnier, that Twittack can't find my new username or Festa misquoting me on what I said on Patrick Pretty's blog on the WLD CA thread. Guess he was too drunk to notice I was "quoting him." :loser: And he is Mr. Perfect. :RpS_lol:


Twit is a dumbass but we all have know that for sometime. I find it interesting how the TG ponzi and criminal forum traffic has tanked. Whats up with that Brian you criminal promoter?

[okosh]

Twit is a dumbass but we all have know that for sometime.

That Andrew(twittack) is so dumb he couldn't find a root in a brothel even if he had a 100 dollar note tied to his you know what...

[EagleOne]

That Andrew(twittack) is so dumb he couldn't find a root in a brothel even if he had a 100 dollar note tied to his you know what...

Maybe he doesn't like Tacos? :peace:

[EagleOne]

An interesting development is happening at WL Forum regarding the thread there about this thread. Seems, if I am reading it right, if I asked "politely" my permanent ban at TG "might" be lifted. But that would only happen if I had the "balls" to do so, or so it is claimed.

I guess they are under the impression I would like to return to TG and post. An interesting development to say the least, but until there is an public apology that my ban was a mistake, it ain't going to happen.

Please excuse me for a minute for going off-topic, but I just received some great news that I was named "One of the Top 50 Writers to be reading right now" on TheBusinessAuthorsShow. Thanks to all who voted for me. :RpS_thumbup:

Now back to the topic of the thread. Since this thread is actively discussed at WL, there have been some incredible posts made that for anyone who really wanted to know the mindset of the people who pimp these Ponzi programs, is on display for all to see. Some incredible revelations that I am sure to the novice they were shocked to learn. They said things that I could not have said better myself, and to be honest are more believable as they come straight from the horses mouth. So there is nothing for me to twist, take out of context or misquote as is always claimed.

[laidback]

An interesting development is happening at WL Forum regarding the thread there about this thread. Seems, if I am reading it right, if I asked "politely" my permanent ban at TG "might" be lifted. But that would only happen if I had the "balls" to do so, or so it is claimed.

I guess they are under the impression I would like to return to TG and post. An interesting development to say the least, but until there is an public apology that my ban was a mistake, it ain't going to happen.

Please excuse me for a minute for going off-topic, but I just received some great news that I was named "One of the Top 50 Writers to be reading right now" on TheBusinessAuthorsShow. Thanks to all who voted for me. :RpS_thumbup:

Now back to the topic of the thread. Since this thread is actively discussed at WL, there have been some incredible posts made that for anyone who really wanted to know the mindset of the people who pimp these Ponzi programs, is on display for all to see. Some incredible revelations that I am sure to the novice they were shocked to learn. They said things that I could not have said better myself, and to be honest are more believable as they come straight from the horses mouth. So there is nothing for me to twist, take out of context or misquote as is always claimed.

LOL, You need to take what he says with a bag or two of salt, it was already stated in the WL thread that it would not likely happen. For myself, I'm pretty sure that I don't want to post on a forum whose admin has admitted that a ban could have been a mistake but won't reverse it.

[EagleOne]

LOL, You need to take what he says with a bag or two of salt, it was already stated in the WL thread that it would not likely happen. For myself, I'm pretty sure that I don't want to post on a forum whose admin has admitted that a ban could have been a mistake but won't reverse it.

Well I finally let mrGSH at WL know that I really don't have a new username at TG. From the sound of his post I was afraid he was going to have a coronary. Yep, I was just having some fun, and I am sure (even though they won't admit it) they were scrambling trying to find my new username. I only hope some unsuspecting member didn't get banned from there thinking he/she was me.

Now I am being lectured by finix that if I didn't disrespect the admin's, mods and members, and if I asked humbly and promised not to disrespect the admin's mods and members; plus change my posting style, they just might, maybe, possibly consider letting me back in.

Let's see, I have been called almost every name under the sun by members and the mods, accused of blackmail and extortion by a mod, and I am being disrespectful. :RpS_lol:

Well I guess they think I want back in really bad for all the advice I have been getting. Think again.

[laidback]

Lectured by finix about following forum rules ...? Absurd...! I notice she really followed Golddusts suggestions to hold down the name calling etc etc, but unless WL is going to back up its rules what is the point? Respect the mods and members of TG? BS, it is supposed to be a two way street...!

[EagleOne]

Now this is a gas. According to finix, and I quote:

"Well, don't you? You want dirt on admins, you participate in name calling of mods. As for the members, if we don't agree with you 100%, we are criminals, ponzi promoters, etc.

Keep in mind, this is coming from someone who used to push forum rules above and beyond any acceptable standards.

Maybe because they are a lot better people than you give them credit for?" (speaking of mods/admins/members)

I guess she took offense at me calling twittack a liar. Wow that sure is name-calling. Guess she missed the ones where a mod accused me of blackmail and fraud to name a few of the things said about me. But then we all know that was not name-calling, just telling the truth. :italian_flick:

But I am glad that mrGSH has been able to calm down and not have a coronary now that he can rest easy knowing I do not have a new username at TG. I bet they went nuts trying to find it. :RpS_lol:

[okosh]

Not so long ago a number of threads vanished from TG....Now it seems the discussion at Web-Life has also vanished....
With Eugene(MrGSH) embarresed....Finix's BS exposed....The whole thread had become too hard for TG admin and mods...
No wonder Geoff felt the need to delete the thread....What a scumbag he is....

[laidback]

It would appear that TG banning disease has spread to Web-Life. Cannot log in and password recovery doesn't work. No word from mods or admins as to whys or wherefores. I guess you could presume it is a technical issue, but I wouldn't bet on it...!

[laidback]

In all fairness, it apparently was technical, I can login again over there.

[EagleOne]

Well, the thread may be back, but I can't login. Guess I was banned and I won't be getting a notice I can appeal. Gee, do you think it was something I said? :RpS_lol::RpS_lol:

Guess they didn't appreciate my having the mods at TG chasing their tails looking for me. Since I know they are all reading here, I just want to let you know that first I did appreciate your allowing me to state my case at WL about my ban at TG.

Having said that, I find it interesting that now posts made on another forum are used to ban you on their forum, which is the only conclusion one can make about my not being able to login there. I'm sure that finix is not banned since she parrots the Ponzi's are good mantra and help people who are desperate. Well they help people who are desperate alright, they help them lose their money. But as long as they say "never invest more than you can afford to lose" (after the payments stop) it makes it alright. While it is true no-one should invest more than they can afford to lose, it sure isn't mentioned in the threads promoting these criminals and their Ponzi's until the very end.

At least they gave me good material for my next Internet radio show. I wonder if they are closet listeners like finix is a closet reader of my book? :RpS_lol:

[laidback]

Things are weird at W-L. About every other time I go there, I can see all the threads and log in. Rather strange to say the least. When I can get in, I see that nobody is banned. Wonder if the site is going down and it defaults to an old archive copy...?

[EagleOne]

Well, the thread may be back, but I can't login. Guess I was banned and I won't be getting a notice I can appeal. Gee, do you think it was something I said? :RpS_lol::RpS_lol:

Guess they didn't appreciate my having the mods at TG chasing their tails looking for me. Since I know they are all reading here, I just want to let you know that first I did appreciate your allowing me to state my case at WL about my ban at TG.

Having said that, I find it interesting that now posts made on another forum are used to ban you on their forum, which is the only conclusion one can make about my not being able to login there. I'm sure that finix is not banned since she parrots the Ponzi's are good mantra and help people who are desperate. Well they help people who are desperate alright, they help them lose their money. But as long as they say "never invest more than you can afford to lose" (after the payments stop) it makes it alright. While it is true no-one should invest more than they can afford to lose, it sure isn't mentioned in the threads promoting these criminals and their Ponzi's until the very end.

At least they gave me good material for my next Internet radio show. I wonder if they are closet listeners like finix is a closet reader of my book? :RpS_lol:

Well, now I can log back in to the forum. Seems they have been having major issues with the site, and that was what was causing login issues. I do want to give credit that I am not banned, at least not yet. I do appreciate being able to post there.

[okosh]

LOL...Yea right....major tech issues.....Hahahaha....
Anything to save them from a discussion they getting their butts kicked in....

As for finix....She needs to change her user name to "TG-Toochas-Lecker".....(means "arse-licker"):butt_kisser:

[baylee]

Not so long ago a number of threads vanished from TG....Now it seems the discussion at Web-Life has also vanished....
With Eugene(MrGSH) embarresed....Finix's BS exposed....The whole thread had become too hard for TG admin and mods...
No wonder Geoff felt the need to delete the thread....What a scumbag he is....

Well, I have not posted over there in a while but I am now "Invalid" when I tried to log in. I really thought better of eugene/mrgsh but???????????????

[okosh]

Well, I have not posted over there in a while but I am now "Invalid" when I tried to log in. I really thought better of eugene/mrgsh but???????????????

What made you think better of him??....He is scum....And he will do anything to protect Finix.....
And Geoff will do anything to protect one of his mods....
Now you understand why you can't post....

[EagleOne]

I think they were afraid that I would have a lot of support, so they are keeping those they feel will support me from posting. It is OK for them to gang up on me, but they deplore the concept we might be 'ganging' up on them. Just like they claimed in the TG threads when 3 or 4 of us would post against 30-40 of them. I guess they realized we had them out manned and out gunned. :RpS_lol:

I haven't tried to login or post there, so not sure if I still can or not. I actually think they thought I was going to bend over, grab my ankles and ask for mercy to be allowed to post again at TG. Thus why the "hints" if I played nice I might have my ban lifted thinking I would fall for it. I do think it surprised them that I ignored them and I was not interested in coming back.

The way TG is tanking, why would I? I can do far more by not posting there than by posting there. I wonder what finix would do if I dropped by and said hello since she does not live that far from me? But then I might give her a heart attack if I did. :RpS_lol:

[laidback]

Here is the official line on the WL problems:

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Sorry but we are having issues at this time. It all started up a couple of days ago when the script seems to have reverted back to 2009.

It is intermittent, which makes it even stranger.

The techs have been notified so hopefully the problem should soon be fixed.
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No data is lost I think, just some glitch reverting back the date. Hopefully it will get fixed soon.

[laidback]

I wonder what finix would do if I dropped by and said hello since she does not live that far from me? But then I might give her a heart attack if I did. :RpS_lol:
LOL, ya got her hanging on your every word...she came over here and copied this and pasted at WL with a response. I tried to copy the response, but the site reverted back to 2009 while I was in it. With her, Fester the Boil and Buster the Dog as fans, your celebrity know no bounds...!

[okosh]

I see TrollDust has been busy editing posts....She does like to flex her muscles every now and then....As bad as forum-nazi-Joseph in many ways....

[Fgold]

I see TrollDust has been busy editing posts....She does like to flex her muscles every now and then....As bad as forum-nazi-Joseph in many ways....

I thought that TrollDust was a he and not a she! :butt_kisser:

[okosh]

I thought that TrollDust was a he and not a she! :butt_kisser:

Nope...Trolldust is a she....That is what she claims....Though it's almost impossible to know for sure...But I believed her when she told me as she had no reason at the time to lie...

[Eddie Haskell]

I see TrollDust has been busy editing posts....She does like to flex her muscles every now and then....As bad as forum-nazi-Joseph in many ways....\\\



TRoll dust? :RpS_laugh: Stop it man you are cracking me up. :RpS_biggrin:

[okosh]

\\\



TRoll dust? :RpS_laugh: Stop it man you are cracking me up. :RpS_biggrin:

Trolldust has a lot in common with TwitTack....They both got similar post history....Full of personal attacks, putting members down and general trolling....Neither of them add anything of value to their respective forums.....
If they were normal members they'd be booted loooooooong ago....

[EagleOne]

SBM: Thought you would enjoy reading what finix had to say about this comment of yours:

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom
I have come to know many scam victims very well. I have seen the emotional pain and financial ruin. I buried my best friend who came to live with us after her losses in MLM left her homeless. She took her own life as she saw no hope of recovering financially and her MLM involvement had cost her her only child. I have been sued and repeatedly threatened. That has just steeled my resolve to look out for those who could be harmed. I feel morally and ethically obligated to stand for what is right.

Finix reply:

While it's understandable, that's all it is - raw emotions. Looking at things objectively, life is not easy. A lot of things can happen to people. Some of those things are not their fault, and some are their fault. Yes, participating in scams can leave a person in ruins, but so can an unexpected illness, bad divorce, estrangement from family and a lot of other events we have no control over. Should everyone who lost everything for any of these reasons kill themselves instead of trying to get back on their feet? I think not.

Participating in scams is choice, though. Should we live our lives by forcing the choices we would make on others because we know the choices would hurt them? I think not.

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

Participating in scams is choice, though. Should we live our lives by forcing the choices we would make on others because we know the choices would hurt them? I think not.

This quote by Finix has to be one of the most heartless things I have had the misfortune to read on the subject of fraud in a long time

It is also one of the most stupid comments I have read . Participating in scams is not a choice. Scams are frauds and people do not knowingly fall for frauds. Scammers are frauds or "confidence tricksters" (as in the old fashioned expression CON MEN). The only people who voluntarily participate in frauds are the scammers/conmen and the scam promoters, who are also scammers/conmen. The rest join because they have been CONNED into it.

I've heard of some excuses by scammers, but this takes the biscuit.

[Whip]

It's really not a surprising answer considering their motto 'only invest what you can afford to lose' for their non-investment scams. This is their opnly way to attempt to justify their theft actions.

[Nancetta]

Finix reply:

While it's understandable, that's all it is - raw emotions.

You said a mouthful there and beautifully spelled it all out for us. Thank you so much for that. Anyone who has been involved (not newbies) in scams/hyips/ponzies/pyramids etc know full well that all the scammers/scam admins/scam mods/scam live chat/scam monitors/pimps want to do is feed off the raw emotions of people. Without these 'raw emotions' scammers would get nowhere...PERIOD!


Yes, participating in scams can leave a person in ruins
And this is acceptable to you and the scammers? Knowing you all have participated in leaving these people in ruins?


Participating in scams is choice, though.
A choice for who? For the scammers/scam admins/pimps/scam monitors/scam live chat/scam mods? Who, exactly, is this a choice for when there are those out there who feed off of peoples 'raw emotions'?


Should we live our lives by forcing the choices we would make on others because we know the choices would hurt them? I think not.

If there is nothing to hide, and you are not forcing your 'choice' on others, why do all the scam admins/pimps/scam monitors/scam live chat/scam mods/paid posters tell such elaborate lies? If no one is 'forcing choices' on others, why don't all these scammers come right out and tell everyone they are out to do nothing BUT scam you? At least then we would have a choice, right?

[EagleOne]

You said a mouthful there and beautifully spelled it all out for us. Thank you so much for that. Anyone who has been involved (not newbies) in scams/hyips/ponzies/pyramids etc know full well that all the scammers/scam admins/scam mods/scam live chat/scam monitors/pimps want to do is feed off the raw emotions of people. Without these 'raw emotions' scammers would get nowhere...PERIOD!

And this is acceptable to you and the scammers? Knowing you all have participated in leaving these people in ruins?

A choice for who? For the scammers/scam admins/pimps/scam monitors/scam live chat/scam mods? Who, exactly, is this a choice for when there are those out there who feed off of peoples 'raw emotions'?

If there is nothing to hide, and you are not forcing your 'choice' on others, why do all the scam admins/pimps/scam monitors/scam live chat/scam mods/paid posters tell such elaborate lies? If no one is 'forcing choices' on others, why don't all these scammers come right out and tell everyone they are out to do nothing BUT scam you? At least then we would have a choice, right?

Don't go confusing finix with reality, logic and truth. Changing the quote slightly from a famous movie, "she can't handle the truth." Let alone reality and logic.

[Eddie Haskell]

Talk Gold numbers continue to plummet. Look at this chart.

talkgold.com 15,998 UVs for September 2011 | Compete (http://siteanalytics.compete.com/talkgold.com/)

The trend has to be concerning. TG is dieing slowly. LOL!!! Way to go nazi mods. Your all doing a hell of a good job. NOT! Its almost like you have comitted suicide. Write a book on how to run a website into the ground by the talk gold brass and mods. LOL I hope you are out of a job soon. This stuff is just too funny. Great job guys! LOL

[okosh]

Talk Gold numbers continue to plummet. Look at this chart.

talkgold.com 15,998 UVs for September 2011 | Compete (http://siteanalytics.compete.com/talkgold.com/)

The trend has to be concerning. TG is dieing slowly. LOL!!! Way to go nazi mods. Your all doing a hell of a good job. NOT! Its almost like you have comitted suicide. Write a book on how to run a website into the ground by the talk gold brass and mods. LOL I hope you are out of a job soon. This stuff is just too funny. Great job guys! LOL

So went downhill since April....About the same time they found an excuse to ban me.....LOL...

Any chance of a chart that compares the traffic at TG to the traffic here??...

[Eddie Haskell]

I believe I have been kicked out of the talk gold crime forum for good. :RpS_thumbsup::finger:


You have been banned for the following reason:
User exceeded the Warning Limit and was banned.

Date the ban will be lifted: 01-21-2012, 01:17 AM

LOL, this was for one post that got deleted by the way. Paranoid are your boys? That place is a riot. If its a crime its at talk gold. I have not even posted in ages! WTF? LOL No wonder their traffic is tanking. Talk gold is a crime forum. Cant silence me here you ass hats!!

Which one of you pussies made the call?? LOL Any of you pussies have the guts to show up here at RS? No I didnt think so. LOL TG, you are scared and a bunch of bunch of pusses afraid to debate what is right and wrong because you know you are wrong.

[okosh]

I believe I have been kicked out of the talk gold crime forum for good. :RpS_thumbsup::finger:



LOL, this was for one post that got deleted by the way. Paranoid are your boys? That place is a riot. If its a crime its at talk gold. I have not even posted in ages! WTF? LOL No wonder their traffic is tanking. Talk gold is a crime forum. Cant silence me here you ass hats!!

Which one of you pussies made the call?? LOL Any of you pussies have the guts to show up here at RS? No I didnt think so. LOL TG, you are scared and a bunch of bunch of pusses afraid to debate what is right and wrong because you know you are wrong.

You banned till 21st Jan 2012....Most likely was the forum Nazi Joseph who did it...

[Eddie Haskell]

You banned till 21st Jan 2012....Most likely was the forum Nazi Joseph who did it...

And then banned again on my next post. They have gone crazy over there. IM pretty much just banned. LOL The Nazi mods are not going to have any thing not go their way these days. IM banned but not bannen on paper or officially. I just cant post anymore over there but that has been the case for ages.

Talk Gold traffic. LOL

talkgold.com 18,845 UVs for November 2011 | Compete (http://siteanalytics.compete.com/talkgold.com/)


Going off the cliff and I wonder what Brain is going to do about it?

Eat your heart out Talk Glold crime and ponzi forum. Naysayers are winning and kicking your ass. Where is the traffic going to???? I guess banning naysayers dint work did it you dumb ass. LOL

[littleroundman]

Remembering Brian now owns both major pimp palaces and the HYIP ponzi "industry" is in a general funk, I don't think Mr Krassenstein would be particularly worried.

Anyone who thinks HYIP ponzi forum owners survive solely on traffic and advertising needs an urgent infusion of reality juice.

Andy Bowdoin was caught with around $80 MILLION in CASH alone.

Does anyone really think he did it unaided ?? That there were no "kickbacks" ??? That preferred positions on forums can't be bought and rules ignored ?? Moderators can't be "guided" ?? Charis Johnson did the whole 12DP thing alone ??

With that sort of money floating around, why would declining Alexa figures worry anyone ??

Think Legisi, think 12DP, think ASD, think CEP.

All of them featured heavily on Talkgold and MMG and all of them had MILLIONS passing through them, most of it not documented and all of it through untouchable phony payment processors.

Coincidence ??

I think not.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/TG.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/mmg.jpg

[Whip]

If its a crime its at talk gold.

That's funny right there.

[Finix]

The only people who voluntarily participate in frauds are the scammers/conmen and the scam promoters, who are also scammers/conmen.
This is like saying that the only people who use drugs are the drug dealers.


This quote by Finix has to be one of the most heartless things I have had the misfortune to read on the subject of fraud in a long time
The opposite. This is one of the most heartfelt things about the industry one can state after having been as deep into it as I have been.

Look, we all can disagree about HYIP forums, their policies and usefulness for the industry. What I think we'll all agree on is that there will be a lot of scam victims around the holidays. Some of them will have lost everything, and what they need to hear is to not give up trying to get back on their feet. No matter how hard it is now, it will get better. I know because I've been there.

[Soapboxmom]

Talk Gold is seeing a precipitous drop in traffic:
503

[EagleOne]

Of course the banning of all of us "naysayers, trolls, negative thinkers, jealous of winners, losers, afraid to take risk" people had nothing to do with this decline. :RpS_lol::RpS_lol: What is even funnier is that they banned a lot of people thinking they were part of Eagle, when none who were banned are on our team or one of our volunteers. :duh: They went to all that trouble for nothing. :RpS_lol::RpS_lol:

But it does seem that an "olive branch" has been indirectly extended somewhat via Web Life when Geoff (ForwardOne) replied to finix:

Originally Posted by Finix
What's TG doing for holidays this year? Any amnesty events I missed?

Forward One: Not as such, but anyone is welcome to write in asking for their ban to be lifted. All requests are given proper consideration.

It was a nice gesture on his part, but at least he offered.

[Finix]

Of course the banning of all of us "naysayers, trolls, negative thinkers, jealous of winners, losers, afraid to take risk" people had nothing to do with this decline.
People who have no interest in the industry other than critique would be by definition trolls. It's not an insult, it's a fact. Yes, they do bring traffic, but how much of it is useful and to whom is a different question.

Yet, the main issue with trolls on HYIP forums is in my opinion their tendency to operate in teams. It clutters the threads and is annoying. If you guys spread around the programs a bit more (one or two for each or so), you might see few issues with being banned on forums. But again, just my opinion.

[Whip]

People who have no interest in the industry other than critique would be by definition trolls. It's not an insult, it's a fact. Yes, they do bring traffic, but how much of it is useful and to whom is a different question.

Yet, the main issue with trolls on HYIP forums is in my opinion their tendency to operate in teams. It clutters the threads and is annoying. If you guys spread around the programs a bit more (one or two for each or so), you might see few issues with being banned on forums. But again, just my opinion.

Anyone that is exposing the scam is 'their' definition of a troll. It doesn't matter how many are in any thread...they will be banned.

[Finix]

Anyone that is exposing the scam is 'their' definition of a troll.
Who is "they"? If you mean HYIP admins themselves, they have no say in how forums are run. Forum owners are not anything other than third party advertisers. Those who run TG happen to be very fair and reasonable business people, you won't find any better in the industry. My position is, why trash the only semi-normal thing in it?

Anyone that is exposing the scam is 'their' definition of a troll. It doesn't matter how many are in any thread...they will be banned.
It sounds like a pre-conceived notion. Plenty of people say harsh things when the programs end. Only naysayers dwell on beating the dead horse. Try a different tactic, something like short to the point sentences instead of consistent presence in the threads. If you are still banned after this, then you will have a case to state bias.

[Soapboxmom]

People who have no interest in the industry other than critique would be by definition trolls. It's not an insult, it's a fact. Yes, they do bring traffic, but how much of it is useful and to whom is a different question.

Yet, the main issue with trolls on HYIP forums is in my opinion their tendency to operate in teams. It clutters the threads and is annoying. If you guys spread around the programs a bit more (one or two for each or so), you might see few issues with being banned on forums. But again, just my opinion.
Sorry. I was participating on only one thread on TalkGold. I was much more sedate and agreeable than usual and after a handful of posts exposing Broker Jones with facts and incisive questions I was shown the door. No amount of reasoning and graveling has gotten TG to unban me. So, I had no gang and was unceremoniously sent packing without so much as a warning! Boohoo!

Soapboxmom

[EagleOne]

We gang up? You truly are delusional. In any thread all of us "trolls" as you call us, are outnumbered 30-1, and that is when there are 6 of us in a thread.

While the forum owner is a businessman, when they advertise Ponzi's, the admin's who pay for this advertising do have a big say in what is and what is not tolerated. The moment us "trolls" start costing them money with our exposing their Ponzi de jour, the warnings start and the bannings begin.

You need to wake up. It was openly admitted on the forum in TG that the mod was looking for "any excuse" to ban me, and was bragging about it. Not only me, but others "perceived" to be part of Eagle. You can try to sugar-coat this all you want, but that is what happened.

The only thing you, and the people who promote these Ponzi's don't like is our exposing these Ponzi's for what they are. If I called anyone on any forum 1/10 of the names I have been called, I would have been banned immediately. Fair and unbiased my tush.

[okosh]

Look, we all can disagree about HYIP forums, their policies and usefulness for the industry. What I think we'll all agree on is that there will be a lot of scam victims around the holidays. Some of them will have lost everything, and what they need to hear is to not give up trying to get back on their feet. No matter how hard it is now, it will get better. I know because I've been there.

Happy new year Finix and welcome to real-scam, nice to have you here :RpS_smile:

I did hear on the grape vine that you hit some tough times....Nice to see you picked yourself up and got back on your feet :RpS_wink:

[Finix]

In any thread all of us "trolls" as you call us, are outnumbered 30-1, and that is when there are 6 of us in a thread.
If you insist on putting yourself in the line of fire between addicts and objects of their addiction in a place where they practice that addiction, what do you expect exactly?


Fair and unbiased my tush.
Do you want to be a perfectionist or do you want fewer people getting involved in scams?

[Finix]

Happy new year Finix and welcome to real-scam, nice to have you here :RpS_smile:
Happy New Year to you as well.

[Finix]

No amount of reasoning and graveling has gotten TG to unban me.
What can I say? Try again, you might all get unbanned this happy new years day. If saving kittens from the toilet is important to you, then stepping on foolish pride would be no big deal.

[okosh]

What can I say? Try again, you might all get unbanned this happy new years day. If saving kittens from the toilet is important to you, then stepping on foolish pride would be no big deal.

So did you send in the email and ask to be unbanned like Geoff suggested??....

[path2prosperity]

Happy New Year to you as well.

Finix was funny and she had plenty of brain cells but she throws mamouth wobblies like Yours Truly! If she can keep her balance and knows what side of the fence she is on, she could be a great asset here. Her dealings with Festa were very entertaining.

Uncle Festa is crying his heart out for some attention on WLD Finix. Take a look over there and see what you think. Festa's Latest Bellyache (http://www.worldlawdirect.com/forum/internet-hyip-scams/58364-due-popular-demand-clinton-clark-scammer.html)!

[Finix]

So did you send in the email and ask to be unbanned like Geoff suggested??....
There is no point for me to do so. To unban me from TG would be essentially saying that forum rules don't matter. It wouldn't be good for anyone. I'm not banned on MMG, so that's where I'll be doing my part.

[Finix]

knows what side of the fence she is on
The way I see it, there are no fences. There are huge numbers of lonely, hurting and isolated from their previous lives people who are much better off with the HYIP forums in the industry than on their own.

[Finix]

Her dealings with Festa were very entertaining.
He might be funny and even right more often than he is not right, but his views on the victims exclude any possibility of redemption for them. It's cruel, and only God knows what possessed me to open up my big mouth and proclaim the same views without knowing what the hell I was talking about.

[laidback]

Finix was funny and she had plenty of brain cells but she throws mamouth wobblies like Yours Truly! If she can keep her balance and knows what side of the fence she is on, she could be a great asset here. Her dealings with Festa were very entertaining.

Uncle Festa is crying his heart out for some attention on WLD Finix. Take a look over there and see what you think. Festa's Latest Bellyache (http://www.worldlawdirect.com/forum/internet-hyip-scams/58364-due-popular-demand-clinton-clark-scammer.html)!
He has been temporarily banned there for off topic crude personal attacks. The thread he started is just another attempt to continue those attacks. Notice he can't even stay on topic in his own thread.

[path2prosperity]

He might be funny and even right more often than he is not right, but his views on the victims exclude any possibility of redemption for them. It's cruel, and only God knows what possessed me to open up my big mouth and proclaim the same views without knowing what the hell I was talking about.

So you opened your mouth and put your foot in it. JOIN THE CLUB. I am president of that one. Festa is nothing but stale beer from the bottom of a dirty barrel and nobody welcomes the dregs of cyberspace here. You were funny and clever and that is something people do not forget. Hope to see more of you here than on MGM. That place is boredom personified in my opinioin.

[path2prosperity]

He has been temporarily banned there for off topic crude personal attacks. The thread he started is just another attempt to continue those attacks. Notice he can't even stay on topic in his own thread.

Banned from WLD!! Is it New Year or April Fools Day? I think Eagle has a very good excuse for a few swigs of his favourite tipple, if that is true.

[Finix]

ou were funny and clever and that is something people do not forget.
That only made me more dangerous than useful or happy for that matter. Being funny and clever without a good purpose is like sailing a ship without steering mechanism: not only it will not reach the destination, it's also a hazard to other ships.

[okosh]

There is no point for me to do so. To unban me from TG would be essentially saying that forum rules don't matter. It wouldn't be good for anyone. I'm not banned on MMG, so that's where I'll be doing my part.

Sure what you did deserved a ban....What I did also deserved a ban....The question is, how long of a ban....
In both our cases a 30day or even a 60day would be ample punishment....
A perm ban is just more proof of some TG mods working an agenda....

On the up side....Traffic at TG has dropped big time since they banned me....And the number of complaints about warnings shows that Joseph's Nazi method of modding has rubbed off onto others...

On the bigger upside is that after I was banned I managed to take a super mod out....
On the downside had I played it smarter I could have taken out Twit-Tack as well....
Was my only regret that I didn't get rid of him at the same time....

[okosh]

Finix was funny and she had plenty of brain cells but she throws mamouth wobblies like Yours Truly! If she can keep her balance and knows what side of the fence she is on, she could be a great asset here. Her dealings with Festa were very entertaining.


Finix knows what side of the fence she's on...She's on her side....Just like I'm on my side of the fence...

It all comes down to agenda....And why each of us do what we do....
For some it's about educating newbs....For others it's about closing down scams and bringing them to justice...
I've done both those things and I found it all to be pointless....Now I do it for me and my own entertainment....I don't care what anyone thinks or says about me....I do it for the fun of it now....And the more scammers and reff-whores and pom-pom wavers I can upset the better....

Finix loves to argue...She loves to push the boundries through her posts....The thread at WL became great entertainment when she started to drive them all nuts with her arguments...Real funny stuff....I'm sure she really enjoyed herself there...


Uncle Festa is crying his heart out for some attention on WLD Finix. Take a look over there and see what you think. Festa's Latest Bellyache (http://www.worldlawdirect.com/forum/internet-hyip-scams/58364-due-popular-demand-clinton-clark-scammer.html)!

LOL...Festa is the village idiot....He is just so stupid.....If I get bored later I might go over there and slap him around a bit :RpS_wink:

[path2prosperity]

[QUOTE=okosh;14300]Finix knows what side of the fence she's on...She's on her side....Just like I'm on my side of the fence...

It all comes down to agenda....And why each of us do what we do....
For some it's about educating newbs....For others it's about closing down scams and bringing them to justice...
I've done both those things and I found it all to be pointless....Now I do it for me and my own entertainment....I don't care what anyone thinks or says about me....I do it for the fun of it now....And the more scammers and reff-whores and pom-pom wavers I can upset the better....

Finix loves to argue...She loves to push the boundries through her posts....The thread at WL became great entertainment when she started to drive them all nuts with her arguments...Real funny stuff....I'm sure she really enjoyed herself there...



LOL...Festa is the village idiot....He is just so stupid.....If I get bored later I might go over there and slap him around a bit :RpS_wink:[/QUOTE

Well put Okosh.

Finix was a colurful character from TG. I can't remember her trying to promote money making opportunities but my brains may be rusting up a bit.

The best of the TG squad are migrating to this neck of the woods. That was a real fun place in its hey day. The one I miss most is "GoldKitty" who devoured Jack Cobb with her cornflakes and gave us all the laugh of the day. Do any of you remember Brookie/Wiseowl/Butch from TG? What a laugh!

[Finix]

Sure what you did deserved a ban....What I did also deserved a ban....The question is, how long of a ban....

I dunno about you, but in my case for as long as it takes to prove that I can participate in discussions without pushing rules sounds about right.

[okosh]

Another happy camper at TG.....The actual rule this person is complaining about is there for his/her own good......

Poster is "Sovereign Investor".....Don't hold back...Tell us what you really think!!!!!


I received another private message in my box today but it was not good news. Apparently, listing an email address on a forum post is prohibited; I did not know this. Nor was I aware that I would receive a point for doing this.

Of all the years of being on various forums, I have never encountered a more stupid forum than this one. This is by far the dumbest forum I have ever posted on. The rules are beyond retarded.

The control freaks and psychos who moderate this forum should be ashamed of themselves. Not only is this a fraudulent site, pandering to the nearest almighty buck, but it is akin to a virtual police state.

Don't bother banning me, for my remarks; I myself resign from this forum. I will leave with my head held high.

I will not pander like the other members here for mercy and clemency from the control freaks on this forum; I leave on my own accord, never to return to this garbage forum.

You people disgust me...

[EagleOne]

I was wondering about his complaining when, as you said Okosh, the rule was there for his protection. But some of his other comments were spot on, and those alone would get him banned.

Deviating from the topic of TG for just a moment, I want to thank the staff, admin, and mods at MMG for removing my ban on their forum. They didn't have to do it, and I appreciate them doing so.

[laidback]

Whatever happened to Weblife Forum? Out of curiosity, I went to look at it and something else was in place.

[okosh]

Whatever happened to Weblife Forum? Out of curiosity, I went to look at it and something else was in place.

Was long overdue for that dump to be closed down. They tried for years to make it a busy forum but never could. Main reason it failed IMO was because of that mod trolldust....What a piece of work she is...Almost makes the Nazi-Joseph at TG look human....

Most traffic I ever seen there was in the "Realscam.com - on "Talk Gold" thread...LOL

[stargrams]

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[path2prosperity]

DrDave/KenRusso has claimed that he will be leaving TalkGold. As we know the type of programs which he promotes, it should not be difficult to identify him if he assumes another TG persona.

Ken's indignation about those who bad mouth him.

Quote DrDave/KenRusso complaints about his treatment on TalkGold



WealthCreationAlliance - wcarev - wcarev.com Message: World Consumer Alliance Payment to krusso

The company continues to pay. Yes, the program has slowed down significantly. Here's the reality. They all do! WCA is no exception! The folks that continue to proclaim that the program is a scam are only harming the thousands of good folks who have joined the enterprise as willing participants.

Now I want to address the jokers like mushroom1 who engage in personal attacks. Guess what. This person does not know me from Adam. He insists that a Google search will prove that I am "paid ponzi pimp scammer". It is losers like mushroom1 who post comments like that. This means absolutely nothing to me. I have thousands of folks on my contact list, several hundred of whom have been there for many years and can vouch for my character. mushroom1 insists that I companies have paid me post false claims. This is
absolute nonsense!

Bottom line, mushroom1 is a pathetic loser who gets his kicks by engaging in personal attacks against someone he does not know. As I stated above, this means nothing to me. However, here is the real problem. He also makes false claims that the folks at WCA are scammers and this reckless behavior causes harm to thousands of innocent and willing participants who have joined the program in good faith. This type of behavior is unconscionable! Frankly, this is
the only forum that allows this type of childish behavior and it is the reason I will no longer be participating here.

Why are those who badmouth Russo not banned from TG.

Are TG allowing genuine naysayers back in their forum?
************

[path2prosperity]

Read page 1 of this forum thread and read post 2. TG have not deleted comments made by their naysayers (including me) about the author of that post about the nature of "feliciajewel." Are TG getting worried about such well known con artists being allowed to rule the roost in certain threads?

"feliciajewel" has been dying with terminal cancers in almost ever part of her body and she has colllected enough donations to help her through her last few weeks with appeals to the few remaining people with any heart on Adlandpro message boards. Carry on reading this thread as Felicia Harris aka "feliciajewel" is upset about what she calls personal attacks. Felicia was silly enough to state that she prefers the publicity which her programs get on Facebook.

Felicia's mug shot has been circulated on Adlandpro since 2002 and Russo's is currently available if you join PalsCafe (http://palscafe.forumotion.com/) forum

[Whip]

This means absolutely nothing to me.

As I stated above, this means nothing to me.

Not only does he want you to know he's a liar with his crying diatribe, he wants to make absolutely sure you know he is by stating it twice.


I will no longer be participating here.

And the third time is a charm. He absolutely WILL keep posting there as he needs warm marks all the time for his scams.

[okosh]

LOL...Russo used the same "I will no longer be participating here." exit stratergy in the GNI thread....

That low life reff whore will be back posting again in the next scam that he's in...

[path2prosperity]

LOL...Russo used the same "I will no longer be participating here." exit stratergy in the GNI thread....

That low life reff whore will be back posting again in the next scam that he's in...

With a different user name? If so can we all be on the look out for what that will be!

Felicia Harris AKA "feliciajewel" has deserted Adlandpro and TalkGold do not seem very supportive to her, so she has migrated to Facebook. It looks as if they do not want migrants from Scamlamdpro but they may want Russo to remain with them.

[okosh]

With a different user name? If so can we all be on the look out for what that will be!


Nope...Same name since the mods would ban him if he made another....
Even if he does make another name I'll bust him just like in the GNI thread....

[okosh]

Well it's been a while so lets see how business is doing over at TG since they decided to ban many of those who contributed more then just the "I got paid" posts....

Did booting us all increase advertising and traffic thus adding to the overall value of the forum??....

Worth a mention that "cheap hyip traffic" is owned by Brian so it's a free add...
"Hype Regulate" is owned by TG mods Not_a_Newbie and twittack so is also a free add....

Here is a pic of the main advertising space that brings in the most revenue....

4293

[baylee]

Well it's been a while so lets see how business is doing over at TG since they decided to ban many of those who contributed more then just the "I got paid" posts....

Did booting us all increase advertising and traffic thus adding to the overall value of the forum??....

Worth a mention that "cheap hyip traffic" is owned by Brian so it's a free add...
"Hype Regulate" is owned by TG mods Not_a_Newbie and twittack so is also a free add....

Here is a pic of the main advertising space that brings in the most revenue....

4293

LOL, It is just about what I expected.

[NikSam]

i had good experience with TG mods when i talked pretty much openly on several scam-programs.
That is of course if you behave and do not insult them and others, of course if you roll in and start calling everybody thieves and scammers they will kick you out.

But in most disputes with Pimps, if you keep your cool, they took my side.

maybe I am a lucky one.

I believe Lynn is also respected a bit by them.

[okosh]

Now lets look at the side bar adds...There are 10 spots at $240 per week....

1)Empty...
2)Empty...
3)Add for Patryn money...Errrrr....I mean HD-money.....If you know how the game works then you'll know that this is a free add....
4)Same as #3....
5)TubeLaunch...With Brians reff link...So this is also a free add...
6)CrowdFundingForum is what Web-Life forum was redirected to...Brian owns it so it's another free add...
7)Same as #6...
8) LotteryMethod....No reff link....May have been paid for....My guess is that Brian owns it so it's another free add...
9)BringTheFresh again with Brians reff link...so another free add...
10)Empty...

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[EagleOne]

i had good experience with TG mods when i talked pretty much openly on several scam-programs.
That is of course if you behave and do not insult them and others, of course if you roll in and start calling everybody thieves and scammers they will kick you out.

But in most disputes with Pimps, if you keep your cool, they took my side.

maybe I am a lucky one.

I believe Lynn is also respected a bit by them.

If they do they have a funny way of showing it. Twit-Tack made an open post saying he was looking for any reason to ban me, as well as anyone on my team; and then after that he made up a reason and I was banned. Then Joseph posted that I was a troll, spamming, and possibly using blackmail and commiting a fraud knowing I could not respond. Yep, a lot of love there for me.

Now what is truly funny is that they went on a banning spree against people they "thought" were part of Eagle. Only problem was none of them were while many of our team was still there posting. So much for their investigative skills.

[Eddie Haskell]

:RpS_lol: Looks like business is booming at the talk gold crime forum these days.

[okosh]

TG News letter....


Hey Guys, it's been a while since we reached out with a Talkgold Newsletter. A lot has happened in the last month or so with Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum (http://Talkgold.com), so I figured I'd give you an update.

#1 We have added a new TeamBuild and Downline Club Folder to Talkgold due to popular demand. The folder can be accessed at: TeamBuilds and Downline Clubs (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/f515-.html). Please read the rules before posting your own Teambuild.

#2 The entire forum script has been revamped to the latest greatest Vbulletin code. This will make things faster, more secure, and allow us to implement other cool features very shortly.

#3 Talkgold.com realizes that things have been a bit slower recently after the closure of Liberty Reserve. Due to these circumstances, we are having a month long sale on some of our ads. Check out our ad prices (including sales) at TalkGold.com Advertising Rates (http://www.talkgold.com/ad.html)

#4, Watch for another newsletter shortly with details about Talkgold account upgrades.

Thanks
Ahmed
Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum (http://Talkgold.com)
15645 Oceanwalk, Ft Meyers, FL

[okosh]

So hows business been since TG mods banned the naysayers you wonder??.....

Email title is...."Talkgold's ad prices slashed"......


Hey all, if you were looking to advertise on Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum (http://Talkgold.com), but couldn't afford it, you are in luck!! Just hours ago we reduced the prices of almost every ad by approximately 50% for a limited time.

Check out our ad rates here: TalkGold.com Advertising Rates (http://www.talkgold.com/ad.html)

Any questions, or orders, shoot an email to talkgoldcom@gmail.com

[EagleOne]

Gosh, I had better get in touch with them to run an ad. Now wouldn't that be a hoot - they let me advertise but not post.

I bet they would crap their pants if I did apply. :RpS_lol: It is almost worth applying for the entertainment value of their reply.

[radovann]

Fast track to momentary ban : ask news about Patryn, his business, details about his track record, etc..

[NikSam]

heh, how did they ban you ?

your status there says "Premium Club Member" :)

how is that a ban ?

[okosh]

Fast track to momentary ban : ask news about Patryn, his business, details about his track record, etc..

To be fair...Such posts would be seen as trolling since Patryn vanished months ago....

[littleroundman]

heh, how did they ban you ?

your status there says "Premium Club Member" :)

how is that a ban ?

Mods have the ability to issue bans lasting from 24 hours to permanent

[radovann]

Hello,

Yeah I was boasting. It was in july 2013 so I forgot, I got a "warning" and a removal of "2 points" for 35 days when I started asking questions about Patryn. Official reason for the warning : Useless post-counting building.

Anyway you guys have probably an efficient method one can use to get banned very fastly of Talkgold in case of emergency ?


heh, how did they ban you ?

your status there says "Premium Club Member" :)

how is that a ban ?

[laidback]

Hello,

Yeah I was boasting. It was in july 2013 so I forgot, I got a "warning" and a removal of "2 points" for 35 days when I started asking questions about Patryn. Official reason for the warning : Useless post-counting building.

Anyway you guys have probably an efficient method one can use to get banned very fastly of Talkgold in case of emergency ?That's easy enough. Just tell the truth about any of crap they promote over there...! (mpd works good too)

[littleroundman]

Anyway you guys have probably an efficient method one can use to get banned very fastly of Talkgold in case of emergency ?

Some of us didn't have to do anything.

Every post got a warning, so it was simply easier to leave them to it.

[EagleOne]

You want banned real fast? Just call Joseph or Twit-Tack a liar or say their combined IQ's are 10 points below a rock's. Guaranteed instant banning for life.

[Whip]

or just post you're friends with Lynn. lol

[okosh]

Used to be a time at TG when outright scamming like with exchanges would have mods like TickTack all over the thread....and if you didn't make good he would ban you quick smart...

Seems being a super mod there allows you to do what you like....take peoples money and not give any indication on when you will make good on the exchange....Just tell them to sit and wait....

I remember back to the final days of e-gold when this mod did much the same thing though he wasn't a mod back then....People sent him e-gold to out exchange and he told them to just sit and wait...
Wonder if he ever made good and gave them their money or if he just stole the lot??....

Nanaimo Gold - WTF (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/r429617-.html)

[littleroundman]

I think the bigger lesson to be taken out of what's happening with nanaimogold in that thread is the fact that many Bitcoin exchangers along with the payment processors which allow HYIP ponzis are struggling at the minute.

It's a real case of "buyer beware" out there in ponziland

[sigurd]

the whole Talkgold forum is like dead and I am not sure if it's because they banned some members. I think it's because the HYIP industry is dead.

[Joe_Shmoe]

:shocked:
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[littleroundman]

Malwarebytes has been tagging Talkgold as a malicious website and blocking access for about two months now:

http://imageshack.com/a/img922/8160/iXJcVM.png

[path2prosperity]

Malwarebytes has been tagging Talkgold as a malicious website and blocking access for about two months now:

http://imageshack.com/a/img922/8160/iXJcVM.png

I wish that they would do the same with MMG and Adlandpro.

[EagleOne]

the whole Talkgold forum is like dead and I am not sure if it's because they banned some members. I think it's because the HYIP industry is dead.

It's dead because they banned who they called "Trolls." They didn't realize that we were the ones driving traffic to their sites in all their Ponzi threads, or they really didn't care. But their advertising revenue must really be hurting because of it. Then they could always sign up for MAP, Traffic Monsoon and utilize their "outstanding" advertising services to promote TG. (inside joke and sarcasm)

[EagleOne]

Since I have not been to TalkGold in over a year, I thought I would go take a look around just for grins. Well, low and behold when trying to access the website I got this message from MalwareBytes, and I quote:

"Malwarebytes has blocked a potentially malicious website."

Made me wonder how many others trying to visit their website were getting the same error message if they used Malwarebytes? Still too funny in so many ways for me.

[laidback]

Since I have not been to TalkGold in over a year, I thought I would go take a look around just for grins. Well, low and behold when trying to access the website I got this message from MalwareBytes, and I quote:

"Malwarebytes has blocked a potentially malicious website."

Made me wonder how many others trying to visit their website were getting the same error message if they used Malwarebytes? Still too funny in so many ways for me.

I didn't get a warning. I see NotANewbie is still a supermod there. Looks like same crap as always. I haven't been there in over a year and probably won't go back, no point in it.

[EagleOne]

I think the free version allows the site to load but the paid version doesn't. I'll have to try it on one of my other computers that doesn't have the paid version to see if it allows me access. What is interesting is that it allows MMG to load. I think TG has a lot of nefarious links throughout the site. I get a notice that certain content is not secure on MMG now and then, but the site is not blocked like at TG. I just wanted to see who was still around that I knew from when I could post there. Hopefully a few are still exposing all the scams/Ponzi's/illegal cash gifting schemes there to warn the newbies from losing their money.

[okosh]

There are like 3mods left..NAN, ticktack and the forum Nazi....MrGSH and tdinoz are no longer mods...

Truth is that TG and MMG are both dead....the few banner adds that are at TG all look to belong to Brian...blackdoss...forex training...buy traffic...these are all his adds and not adds of customers which means that TG today based on revenue has a value of stuff all...

Was a time where some of those fighting the good fight thought that the answer was to try and get the forums shut down......IMHO the answer today is to try and get facebook to tighten it's rules so that when we find a group for a scam we can report it and get the group shut down and the admins of the group have their personal FB accounts suspended or banned....
Just imagine if you got Sunil or Lewis Syring banned from FB??....would be awesome...

[Whip]

Just imagine if you got Sunil or Lewis Syring banned from FB??....would be awesome...


*sigh* you're so naive. everyone now knows futurenet is where it's at. :RpS_rolleyes:

[okosh]

*sigh* you're so naive. everyone now knows futurenet is where it's at. :RpS_rolleyes:

LOL...so I just logged into futrenet....I am happy to report that there were 6 people online there...5 if you don't count me....And they just opened an office in Ukrane last week....
Other than that it's as dead as a door nail....

[EagleOne]

LOL...so I just logged into futrenet....I am happy to report that there were 6 people online there...5 if you don't count me....And they just opened an office in Ukrane last week....
Other than that it's as dead as a door nail....

There were 4, including me, viewing at MMG. But hey they have shiny new 3rd party stuff to promote. I especially love the Café offering. Hmm, let's see..one of the weakest business models is an Internet Café/Coffee shop. Market is glutted, shops are closing and these geniuses are promoting owning your own Café. Reminded me of Bryan Marsden and his clubs he tried to sell franchises and fell flat on its face. This is no different. Some never learn.

I was able to login to TG from my other computer, so it is the premium version of Malwarebytes that is blocking access to their website. I am sure it is loaded with malware and links to other suspicious websites as to why it is being blocked. Now that the Ponzi pimps are using FB to promote their Ponzi's, MMG and TG are hurting. It will be interesting to see how long before FB starts cracking down on these Ponzi FB pages.

[EagleOne]

Because of all the security threats we get on a daily basis, we use the top-of-the-line malware and virus protection software we can find.

When trying to access the TalkGold website our malware software sent me the following message, and I quote:

"Your malware malicious website blocking technology has blocked outgoing or incoming communication between your computer and a malicious Internet Protocol (IP) address. That's a good thing. This communication could be:

• An attempt to download malware onto your computer
• An attempt to redirect you to a malicious webpage
• An attempt to deliver malicious advertising

If you are receiving these notifications without a browser being open, we recommend you run a scan with your Anti-Malware pronto to check for malware on your computer."

So I used one of my backup machines and turned off our malware protection software to see what our Anti-Virus software would do. Again, I got an immediate warning that the site has a high degree of risk of obtaining viruses from multiple sources embedded in the website. So living dangerously (since it is a 4th machine we use as a backup system, I disabled both software packages to see what would happen.)

I was able to browse TalkGold and check out five threads to see if I would pickup any malware/adware or a virus or two. Once I finished viewing, I enabled our software protection and ran two scans: 1 for malware/adware and the 2 for any viruses. The results were interesting to say the least. When I ran the malware/adware scan, it found 43 malware and 36 adware on the system. There were zero major viruses on the system, but there were 8 suspicious files that had been downloaded on my system; and they were immediately quarantined for me to review and decide if I wanted to delete or keep in quarantine. Needless to say I deleted all of them, including all the malware/adware that was downloaded on my system just from visiting and viewing 5 threads.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of the safety of viewing TalkGold. Granted our software is far superior to what the general public uses, but still unless the public has sufficient malware/adware and virus protection, they are putting their computers at high risk.

What I did find most interesting, however, was the place was like a ghost town. A far cry from the hustle and bustle of TalkGold of years past before all the banning began.

[laidback]

I can't remember the last time I tried to access TG. It went to crap immediately after banning the major naysayers and just was not worth the read after that.

[okosh]

So I was doing a lil digging today into a scam and I ended up at tg...
Looks like the bots and spammers have moved in and are multiplying....

[littleroundman]

When I try to access TG, Firefox won't let me connect giving me this message:

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/2805/2vcrIL.png

When I try with Chrome, MalwareBytes blocks the site and this pops up:

http://imageshack.com/a/img922/6941/BcYImC.png

[EagleOne]

Now MMG is giving me warnings when I access their forum threads. I get at least 2-4 websites that are blocked when reading all the threads I visit. Of course they are the same ones every time, but still never got them before. I think Geoff has a major issue on his hands with TG and MMG being infected by those advertising on the forums. Almost all of those being blocked are the HYIP websites. I can only imagine how many computers are being corrupted from people visiting their sites. Glad I have great software protection that keeps me safe.

[EagleOne]

That 4th computer that I experimented with on the TG forum, just tossed me a fake ransom ware attack. I was able to go to task manager and stop it from running, but one more reason not to visit TG. If it had been the real deal, I could have cared less as there is nothing on it to pay a ransom for to get the data back. It would have gone to the computer graveyard. One thing is for sure, there was an embedded ransom ware software put on the system to launch at a later time. Since I don't use it that much, not sure if it was set to launch on a specific command or link. So be careful out there when visiting TG. I'd warn them but I can't access their site. I am letting MMG know what is happening with the blocked websites.

[okosh]

The mods and admins haven't been at TG for a month!!!...

[EagleOne]

The mods and admins haven't been at TG for a month!!!...

WOW! A far cry from their heyday aren't they.

It seems that FB is taking away the platform for the Ponzi's. While MMG Is still active, it is a far cry from what it was just a year ago. All the pimps didn't like they couldn't get me banned, posts deleted, warnings given like before, so they moved to FB to have total control over who and what could be posted.

If Futurenet was smart, they would promote their program to the Ponzi pimps telling them they would be able to stop all us haters by using their platform, and it would be a safe haven. It won't be long until FB starts banning accounts once the complaints and reporting of sites reach a certain level to begin the cleanup of Ponzi promotions. Futurenet would be ideal for them. They could care less if people complained.