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Tank
03-24-2015, 10:33 PM
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"CHINA WANTS YOU FOR MANY INTERESTING INTERNSHIPS!"

This group gets the 2015 China Creative Scam Award for the most creative and deceptive fraud online today. They really went through a lot of effort to make their "China Internship" and "China Back Door Job" program very alluring. This is a 5 star scam folks so spread the word before some university grad you know does not swallow the appetizing bait next. I am not the first to stumble upon this scheme but I am so impressed with it, I have to add my two cents...

First, the web site htp://gi2c.org went on line less than 2 years ago and it is a gem for sure. Very colorful and appealing and just full of video testimonials, links to reviews and all their blogs and happy shill customers. But the ".org" is a lie in itself. This is not an organization, nor an NPO, nor and NGO. According to the leasing offices at the Galaxy Soho, the company is a "commercial enterprise" with the name of "Getin2China" which if you Google, will see they have been peddling illegal visas in years past. The company is owned by a Russian name Yuri Khlystov and a Chinese partner only known as Ben Tsao. They previously operated their black visa business from an office in Dongzhimen according to former Chinese employee "Hellen" who claims she was a "customer service manager" but left when the company "started doing really risky visa stuff" (i.e. selling visas to Russian prostitutes). BTW... here is a photo of the owners (Hellen said she took this photo). The "WhoIs" website registration info is found at the bottom of this post that confirms the ownership. The owners are the first two from the left in the second row.


http://cdn4.goabroad.com/images/listingphotos/standard/c-fakepath-get5-jpeg-81572.jpg

Here is a photo of where the boiler room is now located - in the D2 Tower of the Galaxy Soho building in suite no. 50927 (9th Floor) where approximately 20 people are employed in this office, but the inside source says the faces are constantly changing.


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This link The Gi2C Team - Gi2C Staff - Getin2China (http://www.gi2c.org/our-team.html) and the next post identifies the telemarketing and administrative staff. You will note that some employees do not use their real names and one girl uses two names (Mary & Merry) and has two different photos. Why she pretends to be two different people is not yet known. There are also people who answer the phone and use names that the management says "no longer work here" even though their names and images are still being used on the website and various ads. These names include Paul, Joe, Jane, Zach, Max, Jean, Thomas, Priti, Andrew, Abbie, Johnathan, Tommy, Cheryl, etc. Some rumors say these people were arrested and others that they "resigned". We know for sure that "Tommy" pictured below was arrested and sent to prison for selling illegal visas in 2013. Although management says Tommy was not an employee, I called their office two weeks ago and when I asked for "Tommy" in Chinese, I was told "he is out doing an errand and gone for the day" I was advised to call back the next day! When I called back the next day for Tommy, I was told there was "nobody in the company by that name"! Here is a photo of convicted felon "Tommy"


http://static.gi2c.org/images/team/Tommy-Gi2C-Beijing.jpg

Now here is another photo on the Gi2C.org web site that has absolutely nothing to do with the company and I hereby challenge Mr. Yuri to explain why they claim to be "partners" with SMU when they have no knowledge of your company sir and are amazed you put one of their photos from their old website on your website!


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The next curious thing is that on the homepage of Gi2C, they present that they have offices "world-wide" with all these offices in New York, London, Los Angeles, Canada, etc. They put up the phone numbers of all their "overseas operations" as you can see below. But when I did a reverse look up on these numbers, only the Beijing number is NOT a "virtual number" - a number that you lease from RingCentral.com for $49 a month. There are no overseas offices. These telephone numbers exist only in Cyberspace and are forwarded to 86-010-5288-9011 in Beijing or to mobile numbers of sales people after hours. They do have an apartment rented in Shanghai used as a sales office as well, but their Shanghai manager "Jane" recently resigned and would not say why.

Los Angeles: +1 213 5597277 New York: +1 917 5039747 Canada: +1 888 7899596

London: +44 203 6087372 Helsinki: +358 9 42450737 Tokyo: +81 3 45798488

Beijing: +86 10 52889011 Shanghai: +86 21 60542444



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The scam itself is three-fold... First there is a grab for your "100% Refundable Deposit" which is usually $300 but can be as much as $999 if you are super gullible. This deposit, you are told "is to hold you highly coveted internship slot - so nobody else can get it." In reality, this deposit is what make up 50% of their income and keep the rent paid. According to a former employee, over $50,000 in deposits are taken in every week - and the only a handful of people out of over 3,000 ever got a deposit refunded, and those are the people who either came their with the police, posted complaints at Weibo, or made daily complaints on their Facebook page.

The second part of the scam is that customers are not told the total costs of the program until after the deposit is made. That is when they find out that their internship comes with a huge price tag that after 90 days will be in the neighborhood of $8,000!!! Aside from their $3,700 fee the customer must also buy round-trip plane tickets, pay for two months apartment rental + one month security deposit, meals for 90 days, and subway transit costs to and from their work assignment. Gi2C will supply a furnish room in a shared apartment for the first 30 days but it is nothing special and you do not get to pick your roommates, some of which have pets.

The third part of the scam is that customers are misled to believe they will intern with some huge international company and "probably" get a job offer at the end of their internship. Jobs seldom materialize (less than 5% of their internships end with job offers says the former employee). But the quality of the internships themselves are usually a big let down and interns often get placed with different companies than they were promised and only find out after they arrive in Beijing. Gi2c interns spend most of their time making coffee, deliveries, sales calls, copies, or used as mall monkeys to pass out advertising materials to people who pass by. They already have your money at this point and there is not much you can do. In fact, the former snitch employee says that about half of Gi2C interns abandon their internships within two weeks and become tourists or English tutors rather than endure the exploitation at the companies they are assigned. There are few happy exceptions. These people are SOME of the ones who make the video testimonials, but most are local actors paid $500 for their performance.

There is also something that is outright criminal here. The customers are told not to mention they are going to work as interns when they apply for their visas. They are instructed to lie to the Visa officers at the consulates and request an "M" visa saying they are going to China to participate in some art festival, museum workshop, or Chinese culture exchange program. In fact, some of their interns were arrested and deported when caught working without the correct visa.

Now then, if you look at the internships offered by Gi2C.org on their web site, you will see that they never change. It is he same internships and frankly, their former webmaster, a nice fellow from the UK admitted that he also quit because "80% of those internship jobs were fabricated by Yuri and Zach" A Global Times Newspaper article boasts about "Wall Street Companies" that sponsor their finance interns, but when you ask their sales people to name these companies they quickly change the subject. Most all the Gi2C internship placements are with companies you never heard of.

But here is the kicker... The real legitimate internships available in China, the ones that actually lead to job offers, are offered for FREE by real international companies like Intel, Huawei, Panasonic, HP, Deloitte, etc. and you only need to email the HR staff for details and an application. Of course, you will still have to pay your own air fare, but if you get hired that air fare will be reimbursed. See: http://chinainternshipreviews.wordpress.com for the best rated real internships. In any overseas programs, you always expect a few people to complain. But in the case of Gi2c, the majority complains, and Steve admitted that the company daily has a full time hacker monitoring the internet to find and delete negative comments. Just watch their Facebook page for any 10 day period and you will see just how quickly complaints are zapped.

Last but not least there are legal issues to take into account. Although Gi2c tries to sell 6 month internships to Eastern Europeans, Arabs and Pakistanis, who just want entry visas into China, the Chinese law specifically states "No internship can exceed 90 consecutive days". Also, Chinese law now prohibits unpaid internships unless the intern is enrolled in a university exchange program hat requires a foreign internship. In all other cases, interns must be paid a minimum monthly stipend of 2,000 rmb. We can go on here with more lies found on the Gi2C website, but they changed their terms and conditions three times in the last year. If you want to meet the insider (former employee) just visit here: http://scam-detector.com/forums/forum/employment-scams/366-gi2c-org-and-other-china-internship-scams-exposed-by-former-u-k-employee (http://http://scam-detector.com/forums/forum/employment-scams/366-gi2c-org-and-other-china-internship-scams-exposed-by-former-u-k-employee)

Here is the former logo of the company which changed its name after the police problems with Tommy:


http://imageshack.com/a/img661/2945/l8tUcK.jpg


If you want to waste your time and money and enjoy talking to friendly people on the phone, Gi2C is for you. Otherwise steer clear and find yourself a real China job internship for free mates.

gi2c.org Internet Registry whois:

Updated 10 days ago - Refresh
Domain ID: D168532339-LROR
Creation Date: 2013-04-25T07:45:45Z
Updated Date: 2015-02-23T12:15:02Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2016-04-25T07:45:45Z
Sponsoring Registrar:Tucows Inc. (R11-LROR)
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Registrant Name:Yuri Khlystov
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Registrant Street: Unit 50927, 9th Floor, Building D2, Galaxy SOHO
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littleroundman
03-24-2015, 11:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cQlyLr1OAWw
http://imageshack.com/a/img540/350/iZWdea.jpg

The man himself:

http://imageshack.com/a/img661/8803/Kj75bY.jpg

yeyehoo86
03-26-2015, 10:24 PM
I am not surprised at all! This is the review i made about my experience with them. I was able to make it but i know i have been extremely lucky and blessed.

1. VISA:

They will tell you to get a visa m which is impossible unless your boss in your country of residence is nice enough to give you a letter attesting he is sending you abroad to attend a marketing course which is illegal by the way!!!! So you would probably have to come under a different visa.

2. Accomodation:

A lot of people think that the accomodation is individual and i did based on the first description the make about accomodation: " Having your your own accomodation upon arriving means that you can get right down to excelling at your internship in China. During this time, Gi2C can help you find alternative accomodations - based on your budget - for the duration of your time being in Beijing or Shangai." But if you pay enough attention and go on the next pages you will understand that it is shared. If you want your own flat like i wanted you would have to pay an additional 3000 rmb.

3 . The placement:

Gi2c has a very good network with marketing departments of a lot of companies and it makes sense because it is the easiest work to get for a foreigner in china. Most of the time they will come up to you and tell you they have something for you in a finance company in the marketing department and you will end up not doing what you want. I was placed in a company located in a bad area, the building was disgusting and they even gave us individual toilet paper to go to the bathroom.

4. The support system for accomodation :

They will send you some internet links but after that you are on your own. I was lucky enough to be helped by a friend's uncle who helped me find a flat 1000 rmb cheaper than the only flat kris found for me after i complained about the lack of support in regards to the accomodation hunting process.

5. Complaining and refund:

I was lucky enough to find a much better internship placement with one of their competitors in a very good company in my field. I will not name their competitor in order not to sound as if i am advertising on their behalf.

Once i informed Gi2c that i indeed found a much better placement. The first thing kris asked me was to send him the job description of my new internship so that he could look for the closest position possible in order for me not to leave gi2c. Which is a shame because i had been telling them what i wanted since August 2014 and it was already February 2015.

6. The refund and the consequences:

So after proving to Gi2c that they indeed did not provide me with the service they promise they would, i was given a refund of 5500 rmb the exact amount i asked to pay their competitor who found me a much better internship. I thought i had lost my premium package privileges after a meeting with kris but there was a misunderstanding because after meeting again with kris and yuri i was told i could still attend the monthly events and could still ask for any guidance i would need regarding my visa etc.

7. Conclusion:

That being said an internship in China is really GREAT experience you just have to be extremly careful about the internship offer and not be shy to reject an offer if you do not fully feel comfortable with it. My experience with Gi2c was not good but they admitted their mistake and i think i could have had a better internship if i had been more careful with the position they offered me.

littleroundman
03-26-2015, 10:45 PM
Hiya,yeyehoo86 and welcome to REALSCAM.com (http://www.realscam.com)

It seems the underlying message here is to be bloody careful, things may not be what they seem at first and you're a long way from home if things go wrong, so it would be in your own interest to be EXTRA bloody careful

Seattle
03-28-2015, 08:50 AM
Hey Tank! You beat me to it. I saw some red flags about these guys at some student union forums and was about to write them up here when I saw your post. Good job. These guys are slick eh? Look at all those magnificent reviews they wrote about themselves. I suppose they never dreamed anyone would call all those phone numbers and realize the same person was answering the phone in 7 countries! Anyway, here's my two cents Never, ever pay for an internship - National entry level careers | Examiner.com (http://www.examiner.com/article/never-ever-pay-for-an-internship).

I also confirmed that all those foreigners pictured in the "Our Team" photo bailed. They are now running job ads all over the place. Expats in China are either really dumb or super apathetic to go work for these scumbags. Anyone know where to get an email list of all the student unions so we can really get the word out? There diet seems to be mostly fresh grads.

Frankly My Dear...
03-28-2015, 09:53 AM
Here's some choice comments from their own customers: Gi2C Group Alumni Network | GoOverseas.com (http://www.gooverseas.com/study-abroad/china/gi2c-group/50333)

Tank
04-07-2015, 06:59 PM
I just obtained a copy of this report which speaks for itself. Also see the comments of victim Winnie Maliko at ESLwatch.info.10050100511005210053

Seattle
04-11-2015, 11:12 PM
Sorry to to tell you guys, but according to a former GI2C employee, they are absolutely not a scam. Read for yourself the last post of the below post. How could we have been so stupid!?! Tank you moron! Gi2c China Internship Scammers Hired Hackers To Delete Negative Comments On Internet - Scam Detector Forums (http://scam-detector.com/forums/forum/employment-scams/428-gi2c-china-internship-scammers-hired-hackers-to-delete-negative-comments-on-internet)

littleroundman
04-11-2015, 11:24 PM
http://imageshack.com/a/img537/9952/uraiH1.jpg

JustTooMuchTime
04-14-2015, 04:53 PM
http://imageshack.com/a/img537/9952/uraiH1.jpg

Well, as long as they're cheating people "legally". Reminds me of a guy who once asked me if "all envelope stuffing schemes are scams...and if so, do they pay well?"

nomaxim
04-14-2015, 08:05 PM
Well, as long as they're cheating people "legally". Reminds me of a guy who once asked me if "all envelope stuffing schemes are scams...and if so, do they pay well?"I wouldn't get to excited about the posts from these CFTU people. I've suspected for 7-8 months now (actually almost two years now) that they may be the same people behind the now defunct 'China Trade Commission (CTC)".

Latest update;
A Admin (arvi) at thebeijinger.com (http://www.thebeijinger.com/) recently (in the last month) posted this;
Note:
Due to Chinese internet protocols here is the link to the thread: Gi2c China Job Internships Are NOT A Scam! | the Bejinger (http://tinyurl.com/kgn7b2v)

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z149/Oolam/bejinger.1_zpsn8pmrprz.png (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/Oolam/media/bejinger.1_zpsn8pmrprz.png.html)at
Here is the post that locked the thread;
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z149/Oolam/bejinger.2_zpslxqhqe32.png (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/Oolam/media/bejinger.2_zpslxqhqe32.png.html)

As to the 'CTC', myself, 'mumbles', and 'Meri Widow' dealt with them heavily back in late 2011 in this thread (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=142006) pages 2-13. Needless to say that 'mumbles' found that half a dozen members were posting from the same IP. I later found that over a dozen members posting in that thread were in fact posting or registered from the same IP.

The sad part is that they (the CFTU) don't really seem to care about any of the victims of these scams. And, yes, some of the 'companies' they have posted about could very well be scams. But, they (the CFTU) don't really appear to care about that.

No offers of assistance nor aid is given or even offered by the CFTU, complete empathy on their part.

littleroundman
04-14-2015, 08:16 PM
Needless to say that 'mumbles' found that half a dozen members were posting from the same IP. I later found that over a dozen members posting in that thread were in fact posting or registered from the same IP.

And further investigation would have found the IP was, in fact, a popular proxy or series of proxies used by many 'net users inside China to avoid revealing either identification or location of the poster/s and as a workaround for the heavy censorship of Chinese 'net traffic.

Seattle
04-15-2015, 06:11 AM
I'm not trollin here but nobody mentioned anything about any "CFTU" and I don't think this China Internship fraud has anything to do with foreign teachers amigo.

RE: The Beijinger posts. I read that mess and there is clearly a troll in there impersonating a Gi2c employee. The owner of the company started doing the right thing with an apology and when things went South the Gi2c banner ads start appearing on the site and the moderator locks the thread and makes comments that nobody can respond to. Why? See: http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=644914 Gi2c dumped at least $10,000 on ads on beijinger the same time the thread was locked and suddenly moderated.

The meat and potatoes of this farce can be seen with actual victims and their documents at Fraud Warning...Gi2C and Other China Job Internship Scams - Beware People! (1/4) - ESLwatch - ESLwatch - Information, News, Forum and School Reviews (http://eslwatch.info/forum/china/117-fraud-warning-gi2c-and-other-china-job-internship-scams-beware-people.html)

nomaxim
04-15-2015, 11:06 AM
And further investigation would have found the IP was, in fact, a popular proxy or series of proxies used by many 'net users inside China to avoid revealing either identification or location of the poster/s and as a workaround for the heavy censorship of Chinese 'net traffic.
At that time (4 years ago) the IP resolved to a DNS server belonging to Rogers Cable in Mississauga, Ontario, Canada. Hilarious where it goes now.

Not too surprised, about 8 years ago I ended up with an IP that also resolved to Canada for awhile. It was rather annoying because we couldn't rent and d/l movies for about a month, the service (don't remember the name, Blockbuster ended up buying it and hell Blockbuster is long gone) we were using kept telling us we weren't in the US and couldn't get the movies because of copyrights. :shocked:

Heck, IPv6 rolled out almost 3 years ago and hardly anyone is using it as yet, most places are still using IPv4. Hardware wise, IPv6 isn't a problem. Any device made in the last 10 years can handle it. What's likely been happening here is that the ISP's in the more populated parts of the world have been buying IPv4 IP blocks in bulk from the less populated parts that don't need them.

The numbers;
IPv4 has 4,300,000,000 total IP address's available, give or take.
IPv6 has 3.4×10 to the 38th power total IP address's available.
IPv6 (Wiki) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6)

Its been known that the world would run out of IPv4 address's for about 30 years now.
IPv4 address exhaustion (Wiki) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion)


As of last June (2014) the US only had slightly above 6% of its internet traffic on IPv6.
pcworld.com/article (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2375220/ipv6-usage-is-climbing-in-europe-while-asian-countries-are-most-ready-for-4k-tv-says-study.html)

And look a the bright side, IPv6 (Wiki) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6)
IPv6 addresses are represented as eight groups of four hexadecimal digits separated by colons, for example 2001:0db8:85a3:0042:1000:8a2e:0370:7334, but methods to abbreviate this full notation exist.That would most likely drive MMB up the wall.

Frankly My Dear...
04-15-2015, 09:36 PM
The latest posts on this company is that they are using a combination of 3 company names and a bank in Hong Kong (HSBC) to avoid legal actions and asset seizures and to avoid paying taxes. See the last three posts at Fraud Warning...Gi2C and Other China Job Internship Scams - Beware People! (4/4) - ESLwatch - ESLwatch - Information, News, Forum and School Reviews (http://eslwatch.info/forum/china/117-fraud-warning-gi2c-and-other-china-job-internship-scams-beware-people.html?start=18#427)

I think the guy who is trying to link this crap to some organization is a sock puppet of gi2c. Like Seattle said he was called on the carpet at thebeijinger and then all that new advertising from the internship company started popping up all over the place. But roundman is right - every expat in China uses VPN because they would otherwise be blocked from their Facebook, twitter, gmail, and even the New York Times. The Chinese take censorship to the extreme.

IMHO... I sincerely believe all the below questions asked at two different web sites are valid and reasonable questions to most people. The sooner Gi2c answers them, the sooner they can clear themselves (if they are not guilty of any fraud).


The below comments are quoted from ESLwatch.info:

Thanks for the "explanation" Gi2c, but can we at least have a signature on this letter because at thebeinger, you guys started to do the right thing an apologized to everyone and offer refunds but then later when things did not work as you probably expected, you said that was someone else posting - more than two weeks after you started the thread. So who issued the above letter and is there a reason you do not use signatures?

On page of one this thread many questions were raised about your company and I guess it took me a while to read everything here so I have some questions of my own that I hope you can answer directly;

1- Do you deny or admit that Winnie Maliko was one of your interns?

2 - Do you deny or admit that you changed your comments about her twice at gooverseas.com once she went public with her complaints and changed your "terms and conditions" three times in the last year?

3 - Do you deny or admit that you used to me involved in the visa business at Suite 500 on Dong Zhong Street - Unit 30 in Beijing, three years ago?

4 - Do you deny or admit that your employee "Tommy" who is pictured on your website and other posts in this thread was arrested by the police for visa fraud and related criminal charges in your new office at the Galaxy Soho building?

5 - Do you admit or deny that you had a girl from Taiwan working in your office whose first name began with an "N" and whose boyfriend was an intern at Montpelier in Beijing?

6 - Can you list at least 5 of the "famous Wall Street companies" that you work with and 5 of the Fortune 500 or MNC companies that your employee Mary told people had offered jobs to previous interns?

7 - In 2014, what percentage of your interns received job offers? And how many would that be in total and out of how many interns in total for the year?

8 - Why does the same person answer the phone in all your overseas offices?

9 - Do you admit or deny deleting negative comments from your Facebook and blog pages?

10 - Do you admit or deny that many of your interns have demanded refunds and complained about the quality of their internships and housing?

11 - Do you admit or deny that former employees filed formal complaints with the Beijing labor bureau about their wages and wrongful termination?

12 - Do you admit or deny that you instructed employees in your office to use photoshop to make invitation letters?

13 - Do you admit or deny that your management posted fake video testimonials on your old website "GetIn2China.com" ?

14 - Do you admit or deny you had employed a webmaster named Steve Brown from the U.K.?

15 - Do you admit or deny that you fabricated many job descriptions that now appear on your website?

16 - Do you admit or deny that you tell clients to lie to the Chinese visa authorities about what to say when they are interviewed?

17 - Do you admit or deny that you have pressured and threatened people who made negative comments about you and your company online?

18 - Do you admit or deny that you asked someone to pay a local newspaper to do a feature article about your company?

19 - Do you admit or deny that one of your interns from Italy whose first name began with the letter "F" was placed at a "luxury goods" retail outlet that was raided by the police as a fraud and the intern was arrested, questioned and released and then the matter was reported in the local news? Why would you would place an intern in a company like that?

20 - Do you admit or deny that in the last year at least 15 of your approximately 20 employees resigned?

21 - Why did all those people resign?

22 - Do you admit or deny that an employee named "Hellen" or "Helen" worked for Gi2c or Getin2China in the past for at least two years?

23 - Do you admit or deny that no person by the name of "Haley Gilbert" ever worked for GetIn2China or Gi2c?

24 - Did your company ever falsely register past foreign employees as interns?

25 - How many of your past employees did not receive full paychecks after they resigned?

26 - Isn't it true that what you sell for $3,700, people can get for free by themselves by contacting the HR offices of larges companies operating in China or one off the many foreign chamber of commerce?

27 - Please publish a list of the "50 University Partners" your sales rep told my friend that you have cooperation with all over the world" and explain what is this "cooperation".

28 - You published a group photo of about 65 people standing in front of a famous university on your website (this one below). Please explain this photo and where did it come from and how does it relate to your business history?

SMU.jpg


29 - What are the legal names of the owners of Gi2c and under what name are your registered with the Beijing Tax Bureau and under what SAIC license number?

30 - Why does your company use a .org domain registration when it is a "for profit" operation and not a foundation, not a charity, not an NPO, and not an NGO

I hope that you can answer these questions truthfully so we can get a better understanding of your business ethics and whether people can trust to do business with your company.

Hey Mr. Moderator ...!!!...

Please don't lock this thread until the Gi2c management answers these questions. I personally would never pay for a job, much less an internship, but I am damn curious to see how they are going to explain away all these questions. Hey Sunshine... are you a lawyer by any chance?

I also see that they hired a hacker that already deleted 37 "unfavorable" comments about the company scam-detector.com/forums/forum/employmen...comments-on-internet

Also at the above link I notice that although this company is located in Beijing (mainland china), They tell people to send their money to a bank account at HSBC in Hong Kong! What's up with this - a tax dodge? So now Gi2c has 41 questions to answer!

Gi2C Group
04-16-2015, 01:46 AM
Dear friends and alumni!

Over the past few weeks, we have fallen victim to a malicious Internet smear campaign started by one of our competitors to discredit the legitimacy of Gi2C Group. In China, the practice of tarnishing your competitor’s reputation by unsavory means is, unfortunately, quite common and typically referred to as “black PR”. Black PR involves frequently posting erroneous and defamatory information against a company in order to hurt their business. In our opinion, it is a form of cyberterrorism.

Long articles and fake reviews from the same users, claiming to have been former Gi2C clients who have been cheated by us, have suddenly started to appear daily on different websites that focus on traveling, studying or working overseas. The forum owner of one of the sites has stated that he has received more than 100 spam posts from the same IP address that is spreading lies about our company. These defamers are saying that we are a scam or fraud and are using our name, logo and business information to fabricate stories that are exactly that – stories. Complete fiction.

After completing a thorough investigation by our team, we wanted to bring this to your attention as soon as possible in order to protect our employees as well as past and future alumni. The slandering company who is attacking us doesn’t care about the personal damage they are doing as they post insulting, untrue information that includes personal information about our team members. The dishonorable tactics engaged by our competitor demonstrates that cyberbullying exists everywhere, even at the corporate level.

We don’t take this attack on our reputation lightly and hope that you will be able to differentiate fact from fiction. Take a look at our history. We have a track record that spans over six years and have successfully placed thousands of foreign interns, 2951 to be exact, in companies who are operating in Beijing and Shanghai. Our blog, Facebook, Youtube, LinkedIn, Twitter and Instagram, contain years worth of factual intern reviews and useful China information. We have also been mentioned in the media numerous times over the years. Gi2C Group is an official member of the British Chamber of Commerce in China and the China-Britain Business Council. In sum, we are a legitimate business working hard to serve our customers.

Our lawyers are in the process of bringing a civil lawsuit for defamation against the culprits who are behind this, but, as we all know, the legal process takes time and we need your immediate help to stop malicious links from spreading. This isn’t just an attack against Gi2C Group. This is an attack against any ethical business that believes in fair competition. It is also an attack against those who believe the Internet should be a place free of hate and misinformation.

What can be done to stop being manipulated by fake information on the web? We encourage you to do your research and talk to real people before accepting something as truth. When deciding whether to intern or work in China, we welcome you to talk not only us but also to our competitors and decide for yourself which company is best for you. Do your own investigation of the truth and if you have any questions, please give us a call, send us an email or stop by our offices in Shanghai or Beijing.

As with any business, we have had many proud moments, but are by no means perfect. We are humans and we are working with humans which means from time to time, misunderstandings occur. Especially in our business as there are always multiple cultures involved! However, our mission is continually improve, fix mistakes or problems as they arise, provide the best possible internship experience in China and ensure our clients are satisfied with the service we provide.

We greatly appreciate your continued support now and in the future. Several of our loyal alumni were the first to contact us that this problem existed. Thank you for your concern and dedication to righting a wrong. Our message to everyone is simply this: if you see something on the Internet alleging some problem with Gi2C, please ask us about it! We have nothing to hide and encourage open and honest dialogue.



Yours truly,

The Gi2C Team

P.S. Please do not reply or open any attachments from any email contact claiming to be Gi2C but who does not have the proper domain. All emails from our company have the same "@gi2c.org" domain name. We never use Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo or other public email accounts. If you receive an email from gi2c@hotmail.com, gi2c@gmail.com, gi2c@yahoo.com etc, delete it immediately as it may contain a virus or spam.

This is just the latest of their tactics to cause problems. The people behind this attack are using a variety of ways to defame and slander us publicly online by posting slanderous comments at various online forums using anonymous identities and now by direct mailing you and others from email accounts with our company name. Please take note and thank you for your patience and support as we continue to fight against wrongdoing.

Official public letters from Gi2C:
Public letters (http://www.gi2c.org/public-letters/)

Naoki
04-16-2015, 03:05 AM
LOL, Anthony DiMarco, DeMarco, Bruce or whoever, nice to meet you again! Just wondering, how many real people in this thread? But never mind, I know you are gonna act like innocent virgin.
Anyway, Frankly My Dear, thank you for one more proof that you are exactly same person with Anthony DiMarco (btw, how come you are not in jail still?). See, "famous Wall Street companies" "and "5 of the Fortune 500 or MNC companies" - are exactly same sentences which were using by Anthony DeMarco regarding to what official comment from Gi2C said just day before yesterday at your favorite ESLWatch (by the way, what the hell review for internship provider is doing at the TESL forum???). But yesterday seems your moderators just deleted it and pretended there were no comments. Such a brilliant idea, Athony DeMarco! Poor guys from Gi2C, it's really expensive to be fair.

And I think it's time to make a new scam threads all over the internet: "Beware Anthony DeMarco new scam!" Firstly he smears crap about company everywhere he can (excepting social media, of course, because he can't stay unnamed there) and then offering special price 100 000 CNU for to remove his own slander. I have your emails to CRCC Asia offering help with getting off all crap about their company you've posted by yourself, you were saying it's gonna cost 100.000 rmb. Come one, Tony dude, nice business: smear all crap over the internet and get 100 000 CNU just for deleting all your posts. Seems like CRCC Asia just didn't want to pay.
http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=624175
http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=624175
https://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com/2013/05/23/china-work-abroad-scams-growing-blacklist-whitelists-now-being-compiled-your-help-requested/
Your favorite style: cheesy pictures, dozen links to your own websites and threads, loads fake users keeping discussion with long and very same articles and of course dull wordpress page.

CUCAS obviously didn't pay too.
Let's see what did you use smearing against CUCAS.... WOW! Such a nice surprise, the same dull wordpress design
https://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com/2014/03/21/is-cucas-study-in-china-program-a-scam-too-many-expats-say-yes/
and then we see your favorite cheesy pics:
http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=588064

Then let's take a look how did you use Yahoo answers. Just go here: https://answers.yahoo.com/activity/questions?show=HGSIMSVU7FTKNFASQUJ5HHWGZE&t=g and see how is you dirty smearing business working, one yahoo account claiming to be cheated by loads of TESL agencies and all of sudden by Gi2C? Dude, you should be careful since all of your "kid's daughters", "roommates", "sisters", "friends" were cheated for 3000$.

If anybody real here excepting Anthony's fake accounts, just follow one of that links, it's gonna tell you EVERYTHING about Anthony DeMarco and his smear tactic:
http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?p=1848809
Is CUCAS legit? - Life, Work and Study in China in General - Chinese-forums.com (http://www.chinese-forums.com/index.php?/topic/29068-is-cucas-legit/#entry330410)
Job Discussion Forums :: View topic - Shane English Principal Caught Extorting Foreign Teachers! (http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=1071367)

I hope all your former victims will get you after all.

ribshaw
04-16-2015, 09:40 AM
Dear friends and alumni!

Over the past few weeks, we have fallen victim to a malicious Internet smear campaign started by one of our competitors to discredit the legitimacy of Gi2C Group.

Largely I stopped reading after your first sentence, this is a typical scammer goto catchphrase.



Our lawyers are in the process of bringing a civil lawsuit for defamation against the culprits who are behind this

I caught a glimpse of this which made me laugh just enough that some pee came out.

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What can be done to stop being manipulated by fake information on the web?

First of all you would come to a site like this and leave a cogent response on how specifically your company handles its affairs to ensure people are not being scammed. Soup to nuts, walk through the process. If you are going to (allegedly) pay lawyers thousands to sue a known competitor for defamation, imagine what good a well crafted response might do to elevate your credibility.

Your industry is filled with scumbags that prey on eager young adults, you should know that. Your first post is consistent with what what we hear from every other charlatan.

nomaxim
04-16-2015, 11:08 AM
First of all you would come to a site like this and leave a cogent response on how specifically your company handles its affairs to ensure people are not being scammed. Soup to nuts, walk through the process. If you are going to (allegedly) pay lawyers thousands to sue a known competitor for defamation, imagine what good a well crafted response might do to elevate your credibility.

Your industry is filled with scumbags that prey on eager young adults, you should know that. Your first post is consistent with what what we hear from every other charlatan.Or perhaps not to respond at all.

By posted legal threats all over the net it begins look like nothing more then a SLAPP Suit (Wiki) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_lawsuit_against_public_participation) in the making.

ribshaw
04-16-2015, 11:33 AM
Or perhaps not to respond at all.

Scammers can't help themselves, I doubt C2-D2 will be back, and if they are it will be with more look at the bad man holding the shiny object nonsense.

Readers might see the similarities of this "approach".
http://www.realscam.com/f14/max-kitten-kit-human-company-major-scam-3643/#post84536





By posted legal threats all over the net it begins look like nothing more then a SLAPP Suit (Wiki) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_lawsuit_against_public_participation) in the making.

Sans the actual suit, lawyers, and basis I suspect.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5RtmpPVrcI

Tank
04-16-2015, 12:41 PM
Or perhaps not to respond at all.

By posted legal threats all over the net it begins look like nothing more then a SLAPP Suit (Wiki) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_lawsuit_against_public_participation) in the making.

Well said nomaxim. A very good point that I completely overlooked. You know, if the company management is going to spew all that "smear campaign" manure they should pick one allegation and stick with it. First they said it was an "envious competitor", but did not name the competitor. Now three weeks later they now say it is some former pissed off employee. If I were them and truly had nothing to hide, I would start off by answering all the 40 something questions people have been asking them. Ignoring these questions just makes them look even worse IMO. There is too much documentation at this link to even think this is just some "misunderstanding" Fraud Warning...Gi2C and Other China Job Internship Scams - Beware People! (1/4) - ESLwatch - ESLwatch - Information, News, Forum and School Reviews (http://eslwatch.info/forum/china/117-fraud-warning-gi2c-and-other-china-job-internship-scams-beware-people.html)

I am also curious why no signatures are on those company letterheads. Anyone can fabricate that sort of thing. If I was the company president defending the rep of my company I would sign the letter and even put my corporate seal on the damn thing.

nomaxim
04-16-2015, 03:32 PM
Well said nomaxim. A very good point that I completely overlooked.Butter is something you spread on things to make them taste better. Well, maple syrup and other such condiments works too. :RpS_smile:

flattery will get you nowhere - definition in the British English Dictionary & Thesaurus - Cambridge Dictionaries Online (US) (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/british/flattery-will-get-you-nowhere);
humorous saying
› used to tell someone that praise will not persuade you to do anything you do not want to do

Whip
04-16-2015, 07:07 PM
Scammers can't help themselves, I doubt C2-D2 will be back, and if they are it will be with more look at the bad man holding the shiny object nonsense.

Readers might see the similarities of this "approach".
http://www.realscam.com/f14/max-kitten-kit-human-company-major-scam-3643/#post84536




Sans the actual suit, lawyers, and basis I suspect.



lol. your you tube reminded me of this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adtYk1ovvEc

nomaxim
04-16-2015, 08:11 PM
Actually, it reminded me of a old 'Muppets' video that had Monster (https://topshelfmovies.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/sweetums.jpg) dancing around to 'Tchaikovsky', I think. It was rather cool yet long and I used to use it to brand 'trolls'. Wish I could find it again.

As to the 'Muppets' I still think this is the best;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgbNymZ7vqY

EDIT
Then again I am a known fan of 'Queen'.
I saw them live in '80 and '83.

Naoki
04-20-2015, 03:59 AM
Hello, Anthony aka Bruce! How is it going? Did you already get your 100k RMB or even USD?

To anybody real at this thread (excepting nomaxim, whip, Tank, Frankly my dear, Seattle, littleroundman 'cause they all are obvious Anthony DiCarlo or DeMarco, or whatever is his real name, accounts): check the article at thebeijinger with screenshots and real proofs about what's going on now. This guy, Tank aka Anthony DiCarlo, post all this slander from different accounts for to blackmail this company like he did to at least two more victims!

You've managed to delete some threads, Anthony, but I'm not alone, it's time for you to stop your dirty cyberbullying business forever.

littleroundman
04-20-2015, 04:34 AM
Hello, Anthony aka Bruce! How is it going? Did you already get your 100k RMB or even USD?

To anybody real at this thread (excepting nomaxim, whip, Tank, Frankly my dear, Seattle, littleroundman 'cause they all are obvious Anthony DiCarlo or DeMarco, or whatever is his real name, accounts):.

Obviously nothing.

Stop your nonsense,

none of those accounts are "Anthony DeMarco" or anybody else, other than who they say they are

You ridiculous accusations might work elsewhere, but not here.

Behave yourself

China Dude
04-20-2015, 06:59 AM
I started reading about this China Internship thing which is mind boggling to me. No sane people would pay thousands of dollars to brokers in China to buy an internship that you can get for free in a country 4,000 miles from your home. Total nonsense IMO. And after reading this link Fraud Warning...Gi2C and Other China Job Internship Scams - Beware People! (1/5) - ESLwatch - ESLwatch - Information, News, Forum and School Reviews (http://eslwatch.info/forum/china/117-fraud-warning-gi2c-and-other-china-job-internship-scams-beware-people.html) I think it is criminal - at least by western standards.

Anyone who reads the above link will find so much deception and fabrication that you too might want to see the owners of this gi2c fraud flogged, stoned, castrated, and then gang raped by the entire prison population of the Alabama State Penitentiary. Here is a quick recap...

* The company claimed they had 8 offices around the world until someone asked for all the addresses and now they suddenly have two - both in China. see below screen shots:

* The company operates a boiler room where callers are told that gi2c placed "over 1 lie since they cannot even name 5,100 interns with Fortune 500 Companies and MNCs" - another blatant lie since they cannot even name 5 Fortune 500 Companies that even know what a Gi2c is!

* The people who swallow their bullshit actually believe that if they buy a gi2c internship package for $3,700 they will get a $60,000 job with an MNC yet these asswipes can't identify a single one of their interns that was hired by an MNC in the last 5 years.

At this link Fraud Warning...Gi2C and Other China Job Internship Scams - Beware People! (1/5) - ESLwatch - ESLwatch - Information, News, Forum and School Reviews (http://eslwatch.info/forum/china/117-fraud-warning-gi2c-and-other-china-job-internship-scams-beware-people.html) there are 40 such lies that are awaiting and explanation from gi2c management for about 2 weeks from what I can see.

I think they deliberately operate out of China to avoid prosecution because in any other country they would be called a SUPER SCAM!

Real China internships are FREE as you can see here: http://chinainternshipreviews.wordpress.com

stefano555
04-20-2015, 08:15 AM
To everyone
I regret to inform you that most of the content written by this uses not true according to the owner of GI2C and all of the posters here are a fraud named Bruce Anthony DiMarco using multiple IDs to SLANDER innocent companies

The victim Yuri has spoken in a post on TheBeijinger. Endorsed by the administrator of the website.

Please view the link: WARNING! Scam, blackmailing, cyberterrorism by CFTU Anthony Bruce DiMarco aka DiCarlo (victims: Gi2C, CUCAS, CRCC Asia etc.) | the Beijinger (http://www.thebeijinger.com/forum/2015/04/20/warning-scam-blackmailing-cyberterrorism-cftu-anthony-bruce-dimarco-aka-dicarlo)

littleroundman
04-20-2015, 10:39 AM
No, they are not "multiple IDs" and neither are they one person.

I've asked nicely in another thread where the same allegation has been made.

Stop it

littleroundman
04-20-2015, 10:41 AM
See, now we have a problem.

We now have two users, stefano555 and stefano55 newly registered and coming to us from the same IP address in New Zealand

Whoever you are, please let me know which username you intend using, or I'll be forced to ban both of them

ribshaw
04-20-2015, 10:43 AM
* The people who swallow their bullshit actually believe that if they buy a gi2c internship package for $3,700 they will get a $60,000 job with an MNC yet these asswipes can't identify a single one of their interns that was hired by an MNC in the last 5 years.



That goes without saying ANYTIME someone is asked you to put a little cash in the cookie jar before they will get the cookie for you. Wonder if "Anthony" created the FBI website too?

Advance Fee Schemes

An advance fee scheme occurs when the victim pays money to someone in anticipation of receiving something of greater value—such as a loan, contract, investment, or gift—and then receives little or nothing in return.

FBI — Common Fraud Schemes (http://www.fbi.gov/scams-safety/fraud)


This guy, Tank aka Anthony DiCarlo, post all this slander from different accounts for to blackmail this company like he did to at least two more victims!


Slander is spoken, if you are going to play attorney and drag red herrings all over the clubhouse try to get the jargon correct.

slan·der
ˈslandər/

noun: slander

1.
the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.

Whip
04-20-2015, 10:51 AM
To anybody real at this thread (excepting nomaxim, whip, Tank, Frankly my dear, Seattle, littleroundman 'cause they all are obvious Anthony DiCarlo or DeMarco, or whatever is his real name, accounts)

and yet another failure. I could give 2 shits about any of this myself. I just post funny stuff. Whatever credibility you had is now shot.

Whip
04-20-2015, 10:53 AM
To everyone
I regret to inform you that most of the content written by this uses not true according to the owner of GI2C and all of the posters here are a fraud named Bruce Anthony DiMarco using multiple IDs to SLANDER innocent companies

The victim Yuri has spoken in a post on TheBeijinger. Endorsed by the administrator of the website.

Please view the link: WARNING! Scam, blackmailing, cyberterrorism by CFTU Anthony Bruce DiMarco aka DiCarlo (victims: Gi2C, CUCAS, CRCC Asia etc.) | the Beijinger (http://www.thebeijinger.com/forum/2015/04/20/warning-scam-blackmailing-cyberterrorism-cftu-anthony-bruce-dimarco-aka-dicarlo)

boy will you be embarrassed when you get to court here in the US. I imagine the same for when you get to court in Australia also. You are going to go after these people right?

Whip
04-20-2015, 11:07 AM
That goes without saying ANYTIME someone is asked to put a little cash in the cookie jar before they get the cookie. Wonder if "Anthony" the FBI website too?

Advance Fee Schemes

An advance fee scheme occurs when the victim pays money to someone in anticipation of receiving something of greater value—such as a loan, contract, investment, or gift—and then receives little or nothing in return.

FBI — Common Fraud Schemes (http://www.fbi.gov/scams-safety/fraud)



Slander is spoken, if you are going to play attorney and drag red herrings all over the clubhouse try to get the jargon correct.

slan·der
ˈslandər/

noun: slander

1.
the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.

10212..........

stefano555
04-20-2015, 12:29 PM
This account. Sorry Stefano has been sending me the replies to send from here in order to remain undetectable. That also means registering both accounts. He's afraid to reveal his location within China

As for the links that's for anyone who suspects Bruce they can read it and see the truth as Yuri obviously verified himself there to counter the slander.

Seattle
04-20-2015, 09:16 PM
The latest posts on this company is that they are using a combination of 3 company names and a bank in Hong Kong (HSBC) to avoid legal actions and asset seizures and to avoid paying taxes. See the last three posts at Fraud Warning...Gi2C and Other China Job Internship Scams - Beware People! (4/4) - ESLwatch - ESLwatch - Information, News, Forum and School Reviews (http://eslwatch.info/forum/china/117-fraud-warning-gi2c-and-other-china-job-internship-scams-beware-people.html?start=18#427)

I think the guy who is trying to link this crap to some organization is a sock puppet of gi2c. Like Seattle said he was called on the carpet at thebeijinger and then all that new advertising from the internship company started popping up all over the place. But roundman is right - every expat in China uses VPN because they would otherwise be blocked from their Facebook, twitter, gmail, and even the New York Times. The Chinese take censorship to the extreme.

IMHO... I sincerely believe all the below questions asked at two different web sites are valid and reasonable questions to most people. The sooner Gi2c answers them, the sooner they can clear themselves (if they are not guilty of any fraud).


The below comments are quoted from ESLwatch.info:

Thanks for the "explanation" Gi2c, but can we at least have a signature on this letter because at thebeinger, you guys started to do the right thing an apologized to everyone and offer refunds but then later when things did not work as you probably expected, you said that was someone else posting - more than two weeks after you started the thread. So who issued the above letter and is there a reason you do not use signatures?

On page of one this thread many questions were raised about your company and I guess it took me a while to read everything here so I have some questions of my own that I hope you can answer directly;

1- Do you deny or admit that Winnie Maliko was one of your interns?

2 - Do you deny or admit that you changed your comments about her twice at gooverseas.com once she went public with her complaints and changed your "terms and conditions" three times in the last year?

3 - Do you deny or admit that you used to me involved in the visa business at Suite 500 on Dong Zhong Street - Unit 30 in Beijing, three years ago?

4 - Do you deny or admit that your employee "Tommy" who is pictured on your website and other posts in this thread was arrested by the police for visa fraud and related criminal charges in your new office at the Galaxy Soho building?

5 - Do you admit or deny that you had a girl from Taiwan working in your office whose first name began with an "N" and whose boyfriend was an intern at Montpelier in Beijing?

6 - Can you list at least 5 of the "famous Wall Street companies" that you work with and 5 of the Fortune 500 or MNC companies that your employee Mary told people had offered jobs to previous interns?

7 - In 2014, what percentage of your interns received job offers? And how many would that be in total and out of how many interns in total for the year?

8 - Why does the same person answer the phone in all your overseas offices?

9 - Do you admit or deny deleting negative comments from your Facebook and blog pages?

10 - Do you admit or deny that many of your interns have demanded refunds and complained about the quality of their internships and housing?

11 - Do you admit or deny that former employees filed formal complaints with the Beijing labor bureau about their wages and wrongful termination?

12 - Do you admit or deny that you instructed employees in your office to use photoshop to make invitation letters?

13 - Do you admit or deny that your management posted fake video testimonials on your old website "GetIn2China.com" ?

14 - Do you admit or deny you had employed a webmaster named Steve Brown from the U.K.?

15 - Do you admit or deny that you fabricated many job descriptions that now appear on your website?

16 - Do you admit or deny that you tell clients to lie to the Chinese visa authorities about what to say when they are interviewed?

17 - Do you admit or deny that you have pressured and threatened people who made negative comments about you and your company online?

18 - Do you admit or deny that you asked someone to pay a local newspaper to do a feature article about your company?

19 - Do you admit or deny that one of your interns from Italy whose first name began with the letter "F" was placed at a "luxury goods" retail outlet that was raided by the police as a fraud and the intern was arrested, questioned and released and then the matter was reported in the local news? Why would you would place an intern in a company like that?

20 - Do you admit or deny that in the last year at least 15 of your approximately 20 employees resigned?

21 - Why did all those people resign?

22 - Do you admit or deny that an employee named "Hellen" or "Helen" worked for Gi2c or Getin2China in the past for at least two years?

23 - Do you admit or deny that no person by the name of "Haley Gilbert" ever worked for GetIn2China or Gi2c?

24 - Did your company ever falsely register past foreign employees as interns?

25 - How many of your past employees did not receive full paychecks after they resigned?

26 - Isn't it true that what you sell for $3,700, people can get for free by themselves by contacting the HR offices of larges companies operating in China or one off the many foreign chamber of commerce?

27 - Please publish a list of the "50 University Partners" your sales rep told my friend that you have cooperation with all over the world" and explain what is this "cooperation".

28 - You published a group photo of about 65 people standing in front of a famous university on your website (this one below). Please explain this photo and where did it come from and how does it relate to your business history?

SMU.jpg


29 - What are the legal names of the owners of Gi2c and under what name are your registered with the Beijing Tax Bureau and under what SAIC license number?

30 - Why does your company use a .org domain registration when it is a "for profit" operation and not a foundation, not a charity, not an NPO, and not an NGO

I hope that you can answer these questions truthfully so we can get a better understanding of your business ethics and whether people can trust to do business with your company.

Hey Mr. Moderator ...!!!...

Please don't lock this thread until the Gi2c management answers these questions. I personally would never pay for a job, much less an internship, but I am damn curious to see how they are going to explain away all these questions. Hey Sunshine... are you a lawyer by any chance?

I also see that they hired a hacker that already deleted 37 "unfavorable" comments about the company scam-detector.com/forums/forum/employmen...comments-on-internet

Also at the above link I notice that although this company is located in Beijing (mainland china), They tell people to send their money to a bank account at HSBC in Hong Kong! What's up with this - a tax dodge? So now Gi2c has 41 questions to answer!



10246

No matter who delivers the pizza it will taste the same in my opinion

The way I see, it doesn't matter if the messenger is Sister Teresa or Satan himself. Its the message I am interested in. In this case there is no doubt that the China Scammer (Gi2c) has obviously lied about having 8 offices when they only have 2. They have also obviously lied about how many and who their current and past employees are/were. And according to the below ad they are running on line right now they are also lying about their "Fortune 500 Companies" and "MNC" connections. Then when I read this thread from beginning to end, there is no doubt in my mind that those are real victims with real invitation letters, or the gi2c company would have denied it, and then answer those 40 questions everyone has been asking them for almost a month now. IMO innocent companies don't evade questions, they answer them right? Fraud Warning...Gi2C and Other China Job Internship Scams - Beware People! (1/5) - ESLwatch - ESLwatch - Information, News, Forum and School Reviews (http://eslwatch.info/forum/china/117-fraud-warning-gi2c-and-other-china-job-internship-scams-beware-people.html?limitstart=0)

As for thebeijinger incident. I just read that whole mess and from what I read at scam.com this new guy with two user names also was accused of impersonating three users in that beijinger.com mess, and was banned. Now the troll is here and I suspect maybe by direction of a Gi2c employer? It was not thebeijinger "Admin" that intervened. It was a moderator who gave his opinion and then immediately locked the thread so nobody else could question him about his unilateral conclusion in which he submitted no evidence - just his own opinion. Now was it a just coincidence that on the day before he locked the thread $10,000 of banner ads for Gi2C began appearing all over thebeijinger.com? I think not. Read page 2 of this thread: http://scam.com/showthread.php?t=644914


1024410245

No matter what you may think about Gi2C the important message here is:

REAL CHINA INTERNSHIPS ARE AVAILABLE FOR FREE DIRECTLY FROM THE COMPANIES THEMSELVES THROUGH THEIR HR STAFF.
NOBODY HAS TO PAY $1 FOR A JOB NOR INTERNSHIP IN CHINA.

See: http://chinainternshipreviews.wordpress.com

Tank
04-21-2015, 05:22 AM
Well this can soon be a book or a movie... I was forwarded the below email sent to a Ms. Winnie Maliko" (Gi2c Scam Victim) who says she was blocked from posting at TheBeijinger.com as she was banished for calling a TBJ advertiser "a cheater" and "Fraud" Seatlle already pointed out that TBJ has a tendency to protect their paying customers by banning those who attack them or just locking the thread, or like they just did with the other Gi2c thread that had 13,000 + views ... delete it. See the below from cache. This is not the first time TBJ has blocked scam victims from telling their stories on their forum as this shows http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=644914

As I was saying, Winnie claims she got this email below followed by a call in which Gi2c tried to persuade her to say her identity was stolen so they would have a reason to get all of her negative comments removed from the internet... I hope she just comes here and tells her own story although she did explain it all at Fraud Warning...Gi2C and Other China Job Internship Scams - Beware People! (1/6) - ESLwatch - ESLwatch - Information, News, Forum and School Reviews (http://eslwatch.info/forum/china/117-fraud-warning-gi2c-and-other-china-job-internship-scams-beware-people.html?start=0) in 3 different posts (She provides total documentation as well)

The other interesting thing I noted is that characters Maramu Hazawan, and Stefano55 both sign up at the same time as YuriKhlystov at thebeijinger.com and start trolling in unison. As it was before, when they start getting caught in some inconvenient lies, the thread get's locked. Moderator ARVI89 to the rescue.

Last but maybe most important, read "Lucy's" email where she points out a smear campaign launched by a "competitor" this email is less than a week old and it matches what owner Yuri said three weeks on the Beijinger when he squarely blamed "an envious competitor". But today they launch new missiles against this "disgruntled employee". ****. Imagine what must be coming from the other 15 Gi2c employees who resigned in the last year!



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Then my bud at scam.com sent me this and I have to guess that it is the same Stefano55. It made me laugh so hard I spit out a full mouthful of my Carlsberg! The future of trolling looks... well...fucked up.

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Frankly My Dear...
04-22-2015, 09:35 PM
Obviously nothing.

Stop your nonsense,

none of those accounts are "Anthony DeMarco" or anybody else, other than who they say they are

You ridiculous accusations might work elsewhere, but not here.

Behave yourself

This guy is a loon and super trolling all over the internet on behalf of gi2c company. According to him anyone who speaks in favor of the company is legit, and anyone who wants those 41 questions answered or who posts a screenshot proving the CEO of gi2c lied about there "8 World Wide Offices", their ghost employees, or complaints are all sock puppets. - even Little Roundman! The people of realscam are "all anal" because we don't share his point of view. He also claims that ESLwatch.info is owned by a convicted felon who is blackmaling the Gi2c owners! Most people probably see through him, but the bigger problem at TBJ is a boasted moderator IMHO. The mod is banning people who post links or evidence that show Gi2c staff tell their applicants to lie on their visa application about why they want to come to China. Poor morons have no clue they are being told to commit a felony crime in both their homeland and China. What is outrageous, is that the original post on TBJ "Gi2c China Internship is NOT a Scam" where the owners actually admitted "making some mistakes" and apologized in now deleted and in that thread victims were allowed to speak up. Now in the new thread victims cannot even log in! Also links to comments here and eslwatch.info and elsewhere are now "*removed*" Paid advertisers at thebeijinger can swindle away knowing the moderators will be their shield. http://scam.com/showthread.php?t=644914 4 users posted this linke here Fraud Warning...Gi2C and Other China Job Internship Scams - Beware People! (1/6) - ESLwatch - ESLwatch - Information, News, Forum and School Reviews (http://eslwatch.info/forum/china/117-fraud-warning-gi2c-and-other-china-job-internship-scams-beware-people.html?start=0) at thebeijinger and every one of them (about a dozen) were censored. Freedom of Speech? Not at thebeijinger.com!

Just an afterthought......... If gi2c really put 1.100 interns in with "their vast network of MNCs and Fortune 500 Companies" it would be those interns giving the best "testimonials" right? Instead they cannot produce even one intern to say they did an internship with a Fortune 500 company or MNC in their fiver year history! See below and the last post at Fraud Warning...Gi2C and Other China Job Internship Scams - Beware People! (1/6) - ESLwatch - ESLwatch - Information, News, Forum and School Reviews (http://eslwatch.info/forum/china/117-fraud-warning-gi2c-and-other-china-job-internship-scams-beware-people.html?start=0) on page 6

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Seattle
04-23-2015, 10:05 PM
I am on my way to China and will personally visit this company after I get my other business done. If that clown troll comes here again with his bs acccusations, a lawyer set hims straight at thebeijinger WARNING! Scam, blackmailing, cyberterrorism by CFTU Anthony Bruce DiMarco aka DiCarlo (victims: Gi2C, CUCAS, CRCC Asia etc.) | the Beijinger (http://www.thebeijinger.com/forum/2015/04/20/warning-scam-blackmailing-cyberterrorism-cftu-anthony-bruce-dimarco-aka-dicarlo?page=2#comment-508187)

But the most interesting thing that nobody talked about yet is that in 2013, the Gi2C management hired a Pakistani boiler room to to call uni students in the UK and they said they were "calling from the London Office" and offering those China MNC internships that do not exist. Here the link and some screen shots: http://www.scamcallfighters.com/scam-call-01143600872-Barbara-Wilson---RecSmart I'll check back in after I get to China friends.

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Insider Guest
04-29-2015, 02:02 AM
Gentlemen,

I worked for Gi2c at their Galaxy office and just want to say that most employees there get cheated of their full pay when they resign, especially if you argue or even disagree with the boss – the Russian guy Yuri. I think I was the third in a chain of 16 that quit working there since January of 2014. But the bulk of the people leave after the Brit Steve left – the company web guy.

Basically it goes like this… If you refuse to lie to customers you get axed. If you refuse to go along with the lies someone else made in the website or an advertisement you get fired too. If you refuse to do something unethical like forge an invitation letter or refuse to tell a customer that they need to lie to the China visa office, you will soon be replaced. Steve and Zack both leave the company because they made fake job description templates because they were told they would be “examples”. But then they saw the fake vacancies posted as real ones on line and leave the company.

I think the average length of time someone stays with Gi2c is maybe 5 or 6 months. The most honest people leave in a few weeks after they get paid. My last payment was short by $200 and some people are still owed $500 and even $3,000 in some cases. Out of the whole staff of 22, only Vivi and Ben and Rene and Julliette were honest and the last two left.

If a company cheats its own employees, it will surely cheat its customers yes? At least that’s how I see it. Including myself, here is everyone who left while I was there including Tommy who had no choice, because the cops took him away. Andrew, Juliette, Greg, Kaisa, Rene, Robert, Fay, Zack, Johnathan, Abby, Marco, Paul, Max, Josh, Joe, Michele, Risa, Naomi, Monica, and Sheryl. But even today if you go to the Gi2c website, they still have the photos of several of these people showing as part of “Our Team” even though they left almost a year ago. There were five sales people working out of Pakistan as well pretending to be our “London Office”. Their names were “Haley Gilbert”, “Barbara Wilson”, “Dwight Peterson”, “Cliff Dunbar” and “Cindy”. It was a big magic show because the customers only were told what Gi2c management wanted them to know. Our sales people were good at avoiding negative stuff and changing the subject quickly. The illusion was over after they arrive in China. But luckily they have such a good time exploring China, only about half of them complain and about 30% want refunds.

Also it is not true that this is "only a recent problem" caused "by a competitor" Within a week of my starting work at Gi2c I found many complaints at Scam.com, WorkAbroad.com, etc but I learned that the owner (Yuri) pays a hacker once a month to "sweep" the internet clean of all the hostile or negative comments and there was a Russian girl who did the same for the Gi2c facebook page and also also the company blog. I think sh quit and was replaced with an Indian guy. Here below is one of the posts "swept" from the internet. Other complaints at WallStreetOasis.com and studentroom.co.uk and scam.com go back to 2012.


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I left after one intern came into the office crying because she was told that she only needed to bring $2,000 for 90 days with her but that was about half of what she really needed and was forced to stay in a dirty hostel where she was getting sexually harassed almost daily for two month. Gi2c only provides a room , not your own apartment for the first 30 days. So much deception. When they say “We provide you an apartment for your first 30 days, they should be saying “We provide you a room in a shared apartment with three other people”, I am glad now everyone knows the truth.

If anyone claims I am a fake employee or some "sock pocket" I can tell this... The office is all white, black and lime green with two security cameras - one at the entrance and one that covers the main room where there are four rows of telesales people - 4 seats per row. Isis has an office in the back, and the four managers sit bythe window across from each other. There is a big conference with no windows and a small meeting room with windows. My old phone phone number was 5288-9016 and all the phones are white wireless units with antennas. Next to the large meeting room there is a small refrigerator, coffee machine, and a 20 liter water bottle. To enter the 9th floor office you need to scan your finger. If you are looking into the front double-door entrance of the company the women's rest room is 3 meters to the left and the men's restroom is 6 meters to the right. Looking through the entrance doors you will see a big world map with a lighted back-ground and 8 red dots where they falsely claimed to have offices and to the right of the map and maybe 6" from the ceiling are 5 world clocks.

Insider Guest
04-29-2015, 02:43 AM
P.S. This link on the Gi2C website is 100% fraudulent The Gi2C Team - Gi2C Staff - Getin2China (http://www.gi2c.org/our-team.html). Out of all the "employees" you see here, all but five of them have resigned many months ago. Anyone who thinks I am wrong about this, send me a PM and I will send you their mobile numbers and you can call and ask them directly yourself.


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Also you should know that Yuri is friends with the Russian guy who owns Scam.com (Vlad) and often pays money to have threads about Gi2c filtered out. So when you see posts about them at scam.com you will never see the name Gi2C but only ****

Insider Guest
04-29-2015, 02:59 AM
P.S. This link is 100% fraudulent The Gi2C Team - Gi2C Staff - Getin2China (http://www.gi2c.org/our-team.html) The owner wants you to believe his operation is so big and all these people are helping you find a dream job in China. This is a collection of the people that worked there in the last two years. Only five of the people you see below are still working for Gi2C. Most resigned looooooooooong ago. The only foreigner that was left working there when I left was the black guy Kris. Everything the owner does is trying to make Gi2C look big and successful. They gross about $80,000USD every month, and 1/4 of this money is in deposits that are never refunded.


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China Dude
04-29-2015, 07:23 PM
I just now noticed that thebeijinger.com has been protecting Gi2c who "coincidentally" happens to be a paying customer for advertising there. So I tried to post a few comments with links to some of the screen shots in this thread and pointed out the five big lies made by the Gi2C company Prez.


1. Claiming to have 8 offices when they only have 2

2. Having a "vast network" of MNC & Fortune 500 Company & Famous Wall Street Company "Partners"

3. That he instructs Gi2c customers to lie to the Chinese visa officials about why they are coming to China (a felony crime)

4. That he has "partnerships" with "50 Top Universities" (but can't name any just like the companies in 2 above)

5. That Gi2c has placed "over 1,100" interns with MNC companies (he cannot even name 1)


What Gi2c GM Yuri did not tell us about is the Pakistani boiler room where uni victims are called and told they will get MNC jobs. The callers Barbara Wilson and Haley Gilbert claimed they are "calling from Gi2C's London office" that does not exist! Then the guy they are now blaming posted two letters - one was his letter of resignation complaining about "being deliberately misled" and "not wanting to be part of telling clients to lie to the Chinese visa officials". In the letter the guy also said "I agree with Steve on the fake vacancy issues, and we should not be posting comments that cannot be verified". The other letter he posted was a letter of recommendation praising his "diligent work" and "excellent work efforts". This post was gone within an hour of me seeing it. I regret that I did not take a screen capture.


The TBJ has "removed" all the links directing to other scam forums where GM Yuri was caught in the above lies and where for over a month he has been blaming "one of our competitors" and suddenly last week changed his story and started using former employees and consultants as a scape goat. Quite convenient, especially if TBJ doesn't allow those people to defend themselves on their forum.

And according to what someone had posted, GM Yuri's new scapegoat resigned over a year ago! Why would he wait a whole year to start bitching? It doesn't add up. Furthermore, the first complaints about Gi2c began to surface in 2012 and 2013 - long before his new scapegoat worked for the company.

So I go through the entire three page thread, and see that the moderator "*removed*" every single link posted as a proof that Gi2c lied about the above things.[19 removals in all]. Some of the comments mentioned realscam.com but the links coming here were deleted. I never thought a forum would do this, but then another user made mention of this here at scam-detector, which was a shocker for me. http://scam.com/showthread.php?t=644914&page=2 WTF!? I guess the beijinger will help cover up the sins of their advertisers. I wonder if they charge extra for that?

I also tried to post these same comments at thebeijinger to prove things were being deleted, but guess what? I was also deleted and when I tried to log back in to put it back up a second time and complain about the censorship, I was blocked and got a message that said my user name does not exist! The TBJ cares nothing about victims only the people who pay advertising dollars. This screen capture below are the ads that show up in Cache where Gi2c was claiming to have 8 "world-wide offices" and the GI2c GM now claims they never said they had 8 offices. See for yourself.

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Seattle
05-07-2015, 09:42 PM
Yesterday afternoon I stopped to visit the Gi2c office in Beijing at the Galaxy Soho building. They have some really nice diggs. Nobody was sitting at the front desk and the door was open so I just walked in. The place is all white, black, and green. There is a call center area in the back with space for 20 people but there were only 5 - 4 Chinese and a foreign girl. She asked me what I wanted and I motioned for her to follow me outside. When we got out of the office, I told here I was a reporter with the China Daily and was doing a story on the company. She freaked out and bolted for the elevators about 150 feet away. I went after her and then she ran for the stairwell. Of course I was just joking (I am no reporter). So I went back to the office to take some photos of the office and now the door was closed and locked. I buzzed but nobody came to the door.

Last night I was at my hotel cruising on the net and found this plum which cracked me up. Just want to share...


http://scam-detector.com/forums/filedata/fetch?id=685&d=1431039009.jpg

stefano555
05-08-2015, 02:20 AM
Yesterday afternoon I stopped to visit the Gi2c office in Beijing at the Galaxy Soho building. They have some really nice diggs. Nobody was sitting at the front desk and the door was open so I just walked in. The place is all white, black, and green. There is a call center area in the back with space for 20 people but there were only 5 - 4 Chinese and a foreign girl. She asked me what I wanted and I motioned for her to follow me outside. When we got out of the office, I told here I was a reporter with the China Daily and was doing a story on the company. She freaked out and bolted for the elevators about 150 feet away. I went after her and then she ran for the stairwell. Of course I was just joking (I am no reporter). So I went back to the office to take some photos of the office and now the door was closed and locked. I buzzed but nobody came to the door.

Last night I was at my hotel cruising on the net and found this plum which cracked me up. Just want to share...


http://scam-detector.com/forums/filedata/fetch?id=685&d=1431039009.jpg

Well Anthony, as for your "plum" why not "gem"...... Is FAKE

Id like to point out the image that stupid Anthony is peddling as "Gi2c's Pakistani call center operator" named Barb. Wilson .

I'm also making this post on his other website posts, and other casual surfers who came here to see. Me and Mamoru have been dubbed Sock Puppets by Anthony, who - as scion had stated is running scared, by seeing the below photo:
http://puu.sh/hFDjz/cad25c8d5a.jpg


i chuckled when i saw it, anyway, then he went on about fake sourceforge emails and saying Yuri hired hookers and army of hackers, among other things - its funny, next he'll say that the Galaxy Soho digs were pelted by eggs by angry employees - something that would NEVER appear in china.

Anyway, the point of this is (with proof - as i'm told to STFU if i can't prove anything). Is about the below picture; (I've edited out links and stuff in order not to aid anthony in his slander. Honestly Anthony, It took saving that photo and dragging it onto Images.google.com image search to search for SIMILAR PHOTOS to find where you plucked that photo from. Some Israeli news website about a Research Centre in the West Bank.

See below everyone: This proves Anthony is a felon, slanderous and a FRAUD

http://puu.sh/hFDCv/3b54cd666a.jpg

Link retrieved from: Israel's Bedouin are opting for West Bank universities - Israel News | Haaretz (http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel/israel-s-bedouin-are-opting-for-west-bank-universities-1.454483)

Anthony posted that picture at the Scam website and scamdetector

People will see now you have absolutely NO CREDIBILITY WHAT-SO-EVER. Try dreaming up some next story, @mamoru I do like the Zombie attack though, i wouldn't put it past him to make such assertion.

Anthony, you're screwed. I will copy paste this at your other posts.

I urge everyone to read this website WARNING! Scam, blackmailing, cyberterrorism by CFTU Anthony Bruce DiMarco aka DiCarlo (victims: Gi2C, CUCAS, CRCC Asia etc.) | the Beijinger (http://www.thebeijinger.com/forum/2015/04/20/warning-scam-blackmailing-cyberterrorism-cftu-anthony-bruce-dimarco-aka-dicarlo)

Seattle
05-08-2015, 04:04 AM
Welcome back to our troll Stefano - the moron who said Nomaxim, Admin, Whip, were all the same guy! Anyway, he is right that the photo was probably hijacked from the internet to make a point that someone explained at another forum as follows:

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"Neither Barbara Wilson nor the photo are real doorknob. The point is that according to REAL complaints made at Scambook.com abd ScamCallFighters.com - (SEE BELOW) your boss Yuri at G i 2 C hired a Pakistani call center like the one you see here to call uni students in the U.K. saying they were "Calling from the London Office of Gi2c" and we all know that GI2C does not have a London Office!


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http://www.scamcallfighters.com/scam...Scam-5055.html
Hayley Gilbert / Hayley@recsmart.co.uk / Getin2China.com Complaint 283185 | Scambook (http://www.scambook.com/report/view/283185/Hayley-Gilbert-Hayleyrecsmartcouk-Getin2Chinacom-Complaint-283185-for-$0.00)




For those of you that don't know Stefano yet, he works for GI2C to keep people confused with red herring diversions. The CEO of Gi2c claimed he never said he had 8 office around the world but just visit here and read for yourself... http://scam-detector.com/forums/foru...ts-on-internet (UNQUOTE)


Here's the proof they use a Pakistani call center: http://www.scamcallfighters.com/scam-call-01143600872-Barbara-Wilson---RecSmart------MNC-internship-program-in-China----Advance-Fee-Scam-5055.html

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yeyehoo86
05-12-2015, 04:51 AM
My response to GI2C attempt at denying all the evidence against the illegal and unethical means it uses to get money out of young graduates...

Like many other young graduates I was eagerly looking for an experience abroad and since china made sense to me professionally speaking, I decided I wanted to try to get there. I thought about the language barrier, the fact that I did not know anyone there and also the very tough competition on the job market that would probably make it very difficult for me to penetrate the Chinese job market. I decided to google “ Internship China” and I came across several interesting positions as well as companies similar to

GI2C and GI2C itself. I made a lot of research and thanks to the few people who shared their experience with CRCC I decided not to join, I also saw many negative comments from Go Abroad China and I also decided not to go with them, especially after they gave me a phone call telling me they would reduce their price because I told them I would rather go with their competitor GI2C. Little did I know that I had avoided many traps to fall into another one! This is the original testimony I left on the gooverseas website which is not to be trusted either and I will provide proof of this later on.

Because I had managed to get some money back from GI2C and I had a civil conversation with them since I wanted my money to get out of this mess, as soon as they saw my comment they started emailing me, texting me and asking that I update the most embarrassing bits for them. This is how I ended up posting this comment on the gooverseas website. If I did not make the "adjustment" i was told I would not get a refund.

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Little did I know that GI2C was doing this refund because others had decided to come forward and share all they know about the illegal practices of GI2C. Indeed the GI2C mess went public in MARCH 2015, as you can notice in the text messages screenshots they were leaning on me at the very same time several blogs like eslwatch.info, china scam patrol and so on started spreading the word. Anyhow, I was surfing on the beijinger and came across a heated debate between yuri, and some guy named steven who has now changed is alias to Stefano 55 about GI2C. As soon as I saw the way GI2C was replying to the very legitimate question that were being asked I decided to share my two cents and immediately after that GI2C changed its reply to my original review, and steven was saying I was a fake person.

I decided to email the gooverseas lady and what she reply to me is surprising as you can see from the

screenshots below (for some reason I cannot attach), she would not let me address the contradiction of GI2C on some very strange grounds since they have allowed GI2C to update it’s original response to my review THREE TIMES and I was not allowed to challenge or rebut the false comments made by Yuri in his third revision. If gooverseas act this way it’s very obvious that the reviews on this website are not RELIABLE or maybe purchased by Gi2c.

In the meantime the mods at GI2C ( Avri89) I think took side with gi2C and alongside steven and many other fake accounts created by the GI2C people called us all liars and started blaming some guy named Bruce DeMarco Anthony who they claim to be a “ bitter former gi2C” employee, for all the comments being made. Avri89 went as far as blocking me from making any additional comment on the beijinger despite the fact that I gave my full name and insisted I was real an dposted my invitation letter and and an apology letter from Gi2C which was later deleted.

In the very same threads yuri admitted to have refunded people for more than $30 000 USD and also blamed "envious competitors" while his sock puppets where blaming e Bruce DemarcoAnthony. Because the thread was not going Yuri’s way he suddenly declared that he never admitted to have refunded people and that someone had just created a fake account in his name. The beijinger deleted the thread and created a new one which appears to be extremely favorable to Yuri.

Not to mention that one of the Beijinger guy found me on linkedin and started talking about the dishonesty of Anthony without never admitting that GI2C itself is unethical and is using illegal and unethical means to get money out of young graduates. When I did not agree with him, I was blocked and then I had to register on the beijinger with my second email address and while I was able to post twice for some very strange reason I have been unable to post again for the past few days, while the mods publicly claimed he did not delete me this time I am still unable to post and I wonder why???

At Scam-detector.com they posted the stuff that was deleted by thebeijinger here: Gi2c China Internship Scammers Hired Hackers To Delete Negative Comments On Internet - Scam Detector Forums (http://scam-detector.com/forums/forum/employment-scams/428-gi2c-china-internship-scammers-hired-hackers-to-delete-negative-comments-on-internet)

What Yuri did not anticipate is that the truth is like a carousel it never stops turning and this why many forums such as the ESLWATCH, CHINASCAMPATROL, REALSCAM , ETC started sharing different testimonies, proofs and also asked 41 QUESTIONS TO WHICH YURI HAS BEEN UNABLE TO REPLY FOR MORE THAN TWO MONTHS NOW.

See here http://eslwatch.info/forum/china/117-fraud-warning-gi2c-and-other-china-job-internship-scams-beware-people.html

We have been asking him for weeks the same questions and the Qi2c president yuri just ignores them and keeps saying he is a victim. Well if he wants people to believe him he should just answer the questions already if the allegations are not true.

After GI2C got exposed I decided to do more research about what I risked by coming to CHINA with the wrong visa, and I freaked out when I saw what would happen to me if I get caught with the wrong visa and they see my visa application where Gi2C told me to lie with this explanation:

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Any way if I got caught I would be arrested and taken to jail in China for a week or two until somebody paid my $2,000 fine (I wonder if Gi2c would pay my fine since they told me to lie on the visa application?). Then I would be deported and have a felony conviction police record for the rest of my life!!!!!! An immigration lawyer at About.com says if you get deported for visa violations you get "flagged" in the computers of most countries and probably never get a visa again to go anywhere.

If I know I have this risk I never would have sign to cooperate with Gi2c.

After the beijinger started the new thread in favor of Yuri, still new information popped up despite the bias of thebeijinger mod. Even though it be proven solid that Gi2c has a boiler room in Pakistan the two sock puupet guys ignore that and keep beating up on Anthony Bruce Demarco! I found these links this morning;

http://www.scambook.com/report/view/283185/Hayley-Gilbert-Hayleyrecsmartcouk-Getin2Chinacom-Complaint-283185-for-$0.00

01143600872 Barbara Wilson / RecSmart / ?MNC internship program in China?, Advance Fee Scam. Who called from this phone number? Comments & Reviews. (http://www.scamcallfighters.com/scam-call-01143600872-Barbara-Wilson---RecSmart------MNC-internship-program-in-China----Advance-Fee-Scam-5055.html)

https://www.google.ro/?gws_rd=cr,ssl&ei=HchRVbPBKcG2sgHPkYGQCA#q=scambook+gi2c

The most funny thing is that NONE OF YURI'S "NUMEROUS SATISFIED INTERNS" HAVE COME FORWARD TO DEFEND HIM AND THIS IS WHY HE HAS RECENTLY ORGANIZED A CONTEST REWARDING HIS INTERN $1000 USD USD IF THEY SHARE THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH GI2C ON PUBLIC FORUMS. Watch all the fake customers start popping up just to collect the $1,000!!!!!

To make things worst someone named “lucy” from GI2C emailed me and tried to make me say that someone had stolen my id, despite the fact that I told her to get lost, gi2C still claimed on several forums that they were not sure it was me sharing this testimony that they had tried to call me when it’s absolutely not true since my phone number has not changed since I have arrived in China! What BS!

http://scam-detector.com/forums/filedata/fetch?id=666&d=1430972235.jpg

I truly hope potential customers will be very careful and NOT FALL FOR GI2C’s LIES because these complaints do not just start now. Here is one from January 2015 and others I find like these go back to June of 2013. http://scam-detector.com/forums/filedata/fetch?photoid=516.jpg and Gi2C: Get Into China - Internship Program | Wall Street Oasis (http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/gi2c-get-into-china-internship-program)

China Dude
05-14-2015, 05:17 PM
About that "London Office" read this https://www.callercenter.com/01143600872.html and see that they did have a London operation but not under the name of Gi2c nor Getin2China. They ran a front company called "Better Careers" to create a source for resumes of people interested in working in China. Brilliant idea - and totally untraceable the way they did it. The registered office is located in Sheffield, and the Pakistan call center is in Punjab, but it appears the call center is not owned by Gi2C but rather subcontracted, since other scams used the same call center.


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Frankly My Dear...
05-16-2015, 12:55 PM
China Dude's links prove two things: [1] The Pakistan connection is real and [2] The complaints about Gi2c and its twin company Getin2China go back a few years to 2011. This may be the reason the owner changed the company's name in 2013 - to get away from a history of complaints? I think it also deflates the excuse Gi2c has been giving about both the "envious competitor" and the "disgruntled employee" since the complaints at scam.com, wallstreetoasis.com, and elsewhere started months and even a year before that disgruntled employee joined up with the company.

So I probably will have to agree with "Skeptical" (a user at scam-detector.com) who suggests the below is why we will never get answers to those "31 Questions" asked over and over again. Here are the 31 things Gi2C has to hide from us (see below)


1. Gi2C.org is a for-profit company operating without a SAIC business license in their name.
2. 16 of 22 Gi2c Employees resigned within the last 15 months
3. Steve Brown of the U.K. the Gi2c Webmaster refused to post fraudulent information online
4. Senior Gi2C “Tommy” was arrested by the PSB in Gi2C’s office for Visa Fraud in 2013
5. Gi2C has not a single MNC or Fortune 500 Company as they claimed on their website.
6. Gi2C has NEVER had “51-200 employees” as they claimed on their web site.
7. Gi2C client Winnie Maliko and many others were told to lie on their visa application (a felony crime)
8. Gi2C hires hackers to delete negative comments about the company on the internet
9. Gi2C's owner instructed employees to forge and/or modify invitation letters with photoshop
10. Gi2C posted fake testimonials, reviews, and “likes” on line many times
11. Gi2C cheated many employees on their last pay checks
12. Gi2C employee “Tracy” took the company before the Beijing Labor Board and won
13. Gi2C does not have ANY “Top 50 University Partners” as they claimed for 2 years
14. Gi2C subcontracted a boiler room call center in 2013 in Punjab Pakistan
15. Gi2C deliberately hides total internship costs until after customers pay a $300 processing fee
16. Gi2C does not have ANY “famous Wall Street Company sponsors”
17. Gi2C does not have 8 offices around the world as they advertised for 24 months
18. No GI2C intern was EVER offered a job with ANY Fortune 500 or MNC company
19. Gi2C lies on their website about placing 1,100 interns with MNC companies
20. Gi2C was formerly known as “Getin2China” until 2013.
21. Online complaints about Gi2C or Getin2China go back to 2011
22. The original business of Getin2China was selling “black visas” to Russian hookers
23. Gi2C offered bribes to have a favorable newspaper article published about them
24. Gi2c regularly deletes negative comments from their blog and Facebook page
25. Gi2C has hired paid “shills” to answer telephone calls and say they are satisfied clients
26. About one-third of Gi2C clients demand a refund within 2 weeks of arriving in China
27. Less than 5% of deposits every get refunded when customers demand a refund
28. For every 100 people who pay the $300 processing fee, less than half actually come to China
29. Gi2C keeps it money in a Hong Kong HSBC bank to avoid confiscation may Beijing authorities
30. 75% of the Internship vacancies on the Gi2C web site are fabricated
31. Gi2C intern Frederica B. of Italy was given an internship with a Scam company that was busted by the Beijing Police for counterfeiting in 2013"

I don't know about the rest of you, but if I was the owner of Gi2c and the above was not true, I'd be screaming from a mountain top, suing people, and posting a denial of each allegation. Since Gi2c is not doing this, nor are they answering those 31 questions, it is only logical to me and Dr. Spock that these are all true. Those 16 employees who all resigned know the truth. The one thing that clinches it for me is that Gi2c said they placed "over 1,100 interns with MNC companies" on their web site. I think that if this was true they would surely have at least one intern video of someone saying "I got this great job at IBM because of my Gi2c internship" They have 3 dozen video testimonials posted for everyone to see, but not one them worked for a fortune 500 company or a multinational corporation? This seems more than a bit strange to me.

The former employee and the fake customer at this link Fraud Warning...Gi2C and Other China Job Internship Scams - Beware People! (1/6) - ESLwatch - ESLwatch - Information, News, Forum and School Reviews (http://eslwatch.info/forum/china/117-fraud-warning-gi2c-and-other-china-job-internship-scams-beware-people.html) are the nails in the Gi2c coffin.

Tank
05-17-2015, 11:18 PM
Just a heads up to all that thebeijinger.com where Gi2C advertises, just deleted 120+ unfriendly comments and screen shots that incriminated Gi2c of fraud. They just deleted all the references to the Pakistan operation, the invitation letter and emails of Gi2C victim/client Winnie Maliko, links to comments here at realscam.com and scam-detector and a comment I made about the President of the company lying about having "8 World wide offices in Shanghai, New York, Los Angeles, Tokyo, Toronto, etc." Comment from two former employees plus a copy of the resignation of the "disgruntled employee" they now blame for their bad rep, as well as all the negative comments made towards the troll and the biased mod who falsely inserted the face photo of the disgruntled employee on anyone who attacked or even questioned Gi2C. This may seem outrageous to most people that an expat forum would do this but they have a history of protecting their advertisers as you can see here: http://scam.com/showthread.php?t=644914 Below is just 4 of 120 pages deleted this morning including all references to the arrest of Gi2c employee "tommy" even though the President admitted the arrest in another TBJ post.

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Roughly 5 and 7 weeks ago the TBJ had deleted two complete posts that talked about the visit of the police and arrest of the Gi2c employee Tommy, and the other was about why they changed their name from Getin2China to Gi2c. About three months ago TBJ editors were ripped by users for deleting about 200 negative comments about another advertiser call China ESL that was caught stealing 66% of a teacher's salary (Google teacher Katherine Cox, China ESL scam if you want that story)

China Dude
05-21-2015, 03:32 AM
Holy **** Tank - half of that beijinger thread just vanished! It looks like most of the users who post criticisms or proof of Gi2c fraud were zapped into oblivion (that two blocks left of nowhere before you get to the third traffic light after you turn right at the boonies). Just wonderful. What a difference a biased mod can make heh?

This here below I found and stole from scam-detector.com and identifies yet another "satisfied customer" of Gi2c! This is definitely worth reading: http://scam-detector.com/forums/forum/employment-scams/366-gi2c-org-and-other-china-internship-scams-exposed-by-former-u-k-employee?p=775#post775 shocked:


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China Dude
05-22-2015, 08:28 PM
I am on the CSP mailing list and they just released some more photos taken by their Gi2C former employee informant of inside the Beijing Gi2C call center. As you can see they really exaggerated on the number of employees they claim to have... Also for a good laugh, see here: Gi2c China Internship Scam - Complaint Blog (http://gi2ccomplaints.blogspot.com/)


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nomaxim
05-23-2015, 02:56 PM
Wow, there are now 8 (eight) threads mentioning "GI2C".

http://www.realscam.com/search.php?searchid=25402

And 14 (fourteen) mentioning the "CFTU".

http://www.realscam.com/search.php?searchid=25408

Seattle
05-24-2015, 04:46 PM
Google "China Internships" and over 2,000 links will pop up and almost half of them can be traced to just two of the largest and longest-running scams scams going in China that has probably bilked a few million dollars from college kids. Frankly, I think all these sharks who feed on naive university grads deserve 100 threads each, until they well known to everyone. And the only person who mentions the CFTU is your pal from scam.com - Stefano the troll. This is the same lunatic that insisted Little Roundman, Whip, Ribshaw, Nomaxim, Tank, and myself were all the same guy on page two remember? The same morom who was caught impersonating 8 people at the Beijinger, and the same guy who claimed Winnie Maliko (easily found at Linked) was not a real person, or victim even after she posted your emails, invitation letter, and apology letter from Gi2c. My dog is a more credible source.

The more interesting thing is that Maximus at Scam Detector has now traced complaints about Gi2c back to 2010 with this link here I live in China now and my neighbor works for an " online review" company and her job is to sign up companies in China who pay a monthly subscription rate of $500 (she gets a 20% commission) and when the customers submit reviews the best ones go on page one and the really nasty and negative ones go on page 5 or 10 where most people never go. She told me that if the clients have only a couple good reviews, the review company will charge them $1,000 to create one, $1,500 for two, or $2,000 for three. They even have a team that writes positive articles in English and Chinese about the company to make them look good and then will link them with Google adwords so when a google search is done, only the positive stuff pops up. They do all the hotels and hostels in China but I am sure there is a similar company that does China internships, China Schools etc. So when you google a company expect to find the truth hidden on pages 5-20 and ignore all the pop-up since those are paid ads. If you dig down to page 15 you will even find obscure but helpful stuff like this Gi2c China Internship Scam - Complaint Blog (http://gi2ccomplaints.blogspot.com/) My neighbor makes over $5,000 a month and she says she is one of five sales reps one one team of three and they only do one Province, so you can see just how much time and money companies pay to hide their pimples. Have you already forgotten the Yelp! scandal? and when you combine all the information about the secret Pakistan call center, fake names being used, company names being changed twice and the basic confessions received from "Visitor", "Witness", "Miroslav" (at Scam Detector and ESLWatch.inf0) this company is blatant scam.

But even without all of the above, any company that would tell me I have to lie on my Visa application form and to the visa officers, is not an honest company to be trusted. The only reason they remain in business (IMO) is because of the below which I found at studentroom.co.uk...

"I live in China now and my neighbor works for an " online review" company and her job is to sign up companies in China who pay a monthly subscription rate of $500 (she gets a 20% commission) and when the customers submit reviews the best ones go on page one and the really nasty and negative ones go on page 5 or 10 where most people never go. She told me that if the clients have only a couple good reviews, the review company will charge them $1,000 to create one, $1,500 for two, or $2,000 for three. They even have a team that writes positive articles in English and Chinese about the company to make them look good and then will link them with Google adwords so when a google search is done, only the positive stuff pops up. They do all the hotels and hostels in China but I am sure there is a similar company that does China internships, China Schools etc. So when you google a company expect to find the truth hidden on pages 5-20 and ignore all the pop-up since those are paid ads. If you dig down to page 15 you will even find obscure but helpful stuff like this Gi2c China Internship Scam - Complaint Blog (http://gi2ccomplaints.blogspot.com/) My neighbor makes over $5,000 a month and she says she is one of five sales reps one one team of three and they only do one Province, so you can see just how much time and money companies pay to hide their pimples. Have you already forgotten the Yelp! scandal? "

Btw... take a look at the photos of the Gi2C offices two posts above this one and you will see they are just like two other witnesses and myself described two weeks ago, Alos count the employees in their office.

Seattle
05-24-2015, 04:52 PM
Google "China Internships" and over 2,000 links will pop up and almost half of them can be traced to just two of the largest and longest-running scams going in China that has probably bilked a few million dollars from college kids. Frankly, I think all these sharks who feed on naive university grads deserve 100 threads each, until they are very well-known to everyone. And the only person who mentions the CFTU is your pal from scam.com - Stefano the troll. This is the same lunatic that insisted Little Roundman, Whip, Ribshaw, Nomaxim, Tank, and myself were all the same guy on page two remember? The same morom who was caught impersonating 8 people at the Beijinger, and the same guy who claimed Winnie Maliko (easily found at Linked) was not a real person, or victim even after she posted multiple emails, invitation letter, and apology letter from Gi2c. My dog is a more credible source.

The more interesting thing is that Maximus at Scam Detector has now traced complaints about Gi2c back to 2010 with this link here Gi2c China Internship Scammers Hired Hackers To Delete Negative Comments On Internet - Scam Detector Forums (http://scam-detector.com/forums/forum/employment-scams/428-gi2c-china-internship-scammers-hired-hackers-to-delete-negative-comments-on-internet?p=788#post788)

But even without all of the above, any company that would tell me I have to lie on my Visa application form and to the visa officers, is not an honest company to be trusted. The only reason they remain in business (IMO) is because of the below which I found at studentroom.co.uk...

"I live in China now and my neighbor works for an " online review" company and her job is to sign up companies in China who pay a monthly subscription rate of $500 (she gets a 20% commission) and when the customers submit reviews the best ones go on page one and the really nasty and negative ones go on page 5 or 10 where most people never go. She told me that if the clients have only a couple good reviews, the review company will charge them $1,000 to create one, $1,500 for two, or $2,000 for three. They even have a team that writes positive articles in English and Chinese about the company to make them look good and then will link them with Google adwords so when a google search is done, only the positive stuff pops up. They do all the hotels and hostels in China but I am sure there is a similar company that does China internships, China Schools etc. So when you google a company expect to find the truth hidden on pages 5-20 and ignore all the pop-up since those are paid ads. If you dig down to page 15 you will even find obscure but helpful stuff like this Gi2c China Internship Scam - Complaint Blog (http://gi2ccomplaints.blogspot.com/) My neighbor makes over $5,000 a month and she says she is one of five sales reps one one team of three and they only do one Province, so you can see just how much time and money companies pay to hide their pimples. Have you already forgotten the Yelp! scandal? "

Btw... take a look at the photos of the Gi2C offices two posts above this one and you will see they are just like two other witnesses and myself described two weeks ago, and count the employees in their office.

Last, if you are not sick of reading about this scam by now, look at all the documentation the allegedly "non-existent" Gi2c victim Winnie Maliko posted on this page GI2C.org and other China internship Scams Exposed By Former U.K. Employee... - Scam Detector Forums (http://scam-detector.com/forums/forum/employment-scams/366-gi2c-org-and-other-china-internship-scams-exposed-by-former-u-k-employee/page2) and her comments at real-scam.com. If it walks like a duck... and this is one scam where the waddle is obvious.

China Dude
05-26-2015, 06:19 PM
Some interesting developments:

(1) According to this new China visa law, I just figured out why Gi2c tells their customers to lie on their visa application forms and in the interviews - China internships are now illegal for foreigners who are not in one of three official categories (see 2 below) Here is the official news: CHINA: China Eliminates Internship and Training Visas for Most Foreign Students | Global Immigration News (http://totallyexpat.com/global-immigration-news/china-china-eliminates-internship-training-visas-foreign-students/)

(2) The Chinese government only accepts real interns from one of three categories explained here: Beware Of China Internship visa Scams | antifraudintl.org (http://antifraudintl.org/threads/beware-of-china-internship-visa-scams.96692/)

(3) I found some massive censorship going on at thebeijinger.com where I attempted to post some of the links and screen shots here in this thread and they were deleted within 15 minutes! When I tried to log back in, my user name was blocked. Winnie Maliko the Gi2c customer/victim had previously posted her comments and some documents there (letter of apology from Gi2c) and they are also now missing in action. I also grabbed this image file from the same TBJ thread about 10 days ago, and now it is also gone. Amazing what an expat forum will do to protect one of their own advertisers.


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stefano555
05-29-2015, 12:27 AM
http://puu.sh/i3uK1/e57dd6c014.jpg
WARNING! Scam, blackmailing, cyberterrorism by CFTU Anthony Bruce DiMarco aka DiCarlo (victims: Gi2C, CUCAS, CRCC Asia etc.) | the Beijinger (http://www.thebeijinger.com/forum/2015/04/20/warning-scam-blackmailing-cyberterrorism-cftu-anthony-bruce-dimarco-aka-dicarlo)

Seattle
05-29-2015, 02:23 AM
I am on the CSP mailing list and they just released some more photos taken by their Gi2C former employee informant of inside the Beijing Gi2C call center. As you can see they really exaggerated on the number of employees they claim to have... Also for a good laugh, see here: Gi2c China Internship Scam - Complaint Blog (http://gi2ccomplaints.blogspot.com/)


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Latest Rumor is that "Tommy" the arrested Gi2C employee, is no longer officially an "employee" but still hangs out at the Gi2C Beijing office. I also picked up the attached files below from Max at Scam-Detector which proves this Gi2c gang has been rustling uni students for at least 5 years and the complaints below that go back to 2010, 2011, and 2012 are 1-3 years B E F O R E the alleged "disgruntled employee" was hired on by the company. BTW, I am collecting screen shots from thebeijinger.com that were deletd before their magic thread was edited from 167 posts down to 65 in less than a week. Thankfully some of the statements of victims and witnesses are still hear at real scam as well as Fraud Warning...Gi2C and Other China Job Internship Scams - Beware People! (1/6) - ESLwatch - ESLwatch - Information, News, Forum and School Reviews (http://eslwatch.info/forum/china/117-fraud-warning-gi2c-and-other-china-job-internship-scams-beware-people.html) and GI2C.org and other China internship Scams Exposed By Former U.K. Employee... - Scam Detector Forums (http://scam-detector.com/forums/forum/employment-scams/366-gi2c-org-and-other-china-internship-scams-exposed-by-former-u-k-employee)

And my spouse figured out why they make all their customers lie on their visa applications... CHINA: China Eliminates Internship and Training Visas for Most Foreign Students | Global Immigration News (http://totallyexpat.com/global-immigration-news/china-china-eliminates-internship-training-visas-foreign-students/)


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stefano555
05-30-2015, 04:43 AM
http://puu.sh/i5KK7/0ea1c9965a.jpg



I remind everybody of Anthony's confession on TheBeijinger.com

http://puu.sh/i5KKZ/a448a68392.png

http://puu.sh/i5KMC/7ce70c3e18.jpg
WARNING! Scam, blackmailing, cyberterrorism by CFTU Anthony Bruce DiMarco aka DiCarlo (victims: Gi2C, CUCAS, CRCC Asia etc.) | the Beijinger (http://www.thebeijinger.com/forum/2015/04/20/warning-scam-blackmailing-cyberterrorism-cftu-anthony-bruce-dimarco-aka-dicarlo)

Tank
05-30-2015, 08:27 PM
A quick reminder to anyone thinking about China Internships...

According to Chinese Visa laws most all China Internship programs for expats today are ILLEGAL (Read here CHINA: China Eliminates Internship and Training Visas for Most Foreign Students | Global Immigration News (http://totallyexpat.com/global-immigration-news/china-china-eliminates-internship-training-visas-foreign-students/)) And here is what can happen to you if you go through with a Gi2c program or any other illegal China intersnhip program: Beware Of China Internship Visa Scams | antifraudintl.org (http://antifraudintl.org/threads/beware-of-china-internship-visa-scams.96692/)

Any company or agent that asks you to pay any money - even $10 to get you a job or internship in China is a scam - period.

The good news is that the only legal internships in China are 100% FREE as explained in these links below.

http://chinainternshipreviews.wordpress.com

Free China Internships Without Scams - DIY! (http://freechinainternships.blogspot.co.uk)

http://www.job-hunt.org/employers/Fo...ernships.shtml

http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum...cams-no-really

As for the troll in this thread "Stefano" he has yet to prove anything he ever claimed, has accused admin and five long time realscam veteran users including Nomaxim, Whip, myself, Ribshaw, and Seattle, of being all the same person (because they disagreed with him) and is himself a convicted felon who created a fraud thread at thebeijinger where he impersonated five different people!

Also, anyone who examines thebeijinger situation will see that there were at one time, 167 posts, which have been censored down to roughly 70 in favor of protecting the reputation of an advertiser - Gi2C. THey are norious for their creative editing and were caught 6 months ago covering up for the biggest scam in China called China ESL owned by a woman named Rebecca Tang. See the attached for the latest deletion/edit job. 10837

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Insider Guest
06-10-2015, 09:51 AM
Just submitting an update from my former colleague at Gi2c... Yuri just hired an SEO guy to start pumping out five blogs a week to push all the negative posts to page 4-10 of Google if his hacker friend "Boris" cannot delete them like he did to so many others. And he just corrupted the "Totally Expat" link mentioned by Tank so here is a replacement link that explains just how illegal their internship programs are according to Chinese laws CHINA - China Eliminates Internship and Training Visas for Most Foreign Students > Berry Appleman & Leiden LLP - Corporate Immigration (http://www.balglobal.com/News/NewsDetail/tabid/266/id/3105/language/en-US/CHINA--China-Eliminates-Internship-and-Training-Visas-for-Most-Foreign-Students.aspx) and Beware Of China Internship Visa Scams | antifraudintl.org (http://antifraudintl.org/threads/beware-of-china-internship-visa-scams.96692/)

Max at scam-detector came up with some of our old business cards that show how Yuri always tried to full people into thinking we had 8 offices around the world. He just took it off the website about a month ago but you can see it is well documented at http://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com, and off course on the old business cards (not the new ones since he knows he is being scrutinized lately). I also heard he is paying some American guy to troll around all the scam reporting sites to confuse people. I am trying to get more details.

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Seattle
06-11-2015, 04:16 AM
Well I think is just a few more nails in the coffin of Gi2C - the brochure they give to companies they want to accept their interns. It seems they lie to everyone - their interns, their employees, and even the companies who cooperate with them! I wonder if anyone asks them for references at the universities? They probably have shill deans and fake professors to take inquiry calls fro them too! Well, at least Yuri can't deny this one - his signature is on it!


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Naoki
06-15-2015, 05:48 AM
It's obviously for everyone that all this thread was created and running now by one insane person. Yes. Anthony DiCarlo, it's you. I just happy to say that finally you have your own personal Ripoff report (http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Anthony-Bruce-DeMarko/internet/nbspCFTU-Anthony-Bruce-DiMarco-aka-DeMarco-aka-DiCarlo-Scam-blackmailing-cyberterrori-1223497), you are welcome.
Btw, seems like you have real problem with finding job after I exposed you at TBJ with scion, otherwise how else could you find enough time to smear all this crap over the Internet?

But it's OK. I recommend to everybody who is really interesting in internship programs in China read following articles, at least you'll find our what's going on from trustworthy sources.
Examiner.com (http://www.examiner.com/article/how-to-know-whether-an-internship-china-is-a-good-idea)
technosyncratic (http://technosyncratic.com/articles/gi2c-internship-in-china-scam-or-solution.html)
Maiden Voyage Travel Blog (http://maiden-voyage-travel.com/qa-with-gi2c-ceo-yuri-khlystov-are-internship-scams-common-in-china/)
Sloshspot (http://www.sloshspot.com/blog/qa-with-gi2c-ceo-yuri-khlystov-are-china-internship-scams-on-the-rise)
Neverendingfootsteps (http://www.neverendingfootsteps.com/2015/05/11/a-gi2c-how-to-guide-how-to-avoid-china-internship-scams/)
Two Monkeys Travel (http://twomonkeystravelgroup.com/2015/05/internship-scams-common-china/#more-7731)

Of course it's not gonna be useful for multiple Anthony's alias but who knows, maybe one day real person would love to take a look at this thread...

China Dude
06-15-2015, 11:33 PM
Well I just got done looking at all the sites given to us by Naoki and I am not surprised that they all feature the CEO of Gi2c who either wrote the content or paid for it. I think people these days are not stupid and will catch on to their m.o. of self-promotion. This piece below I found at studentroom.com which maybe explains why we should never believe any of those wonderful reviews that give so much praise to a company that has five years of complaints online which scam-detector has proven in the last two weeks.Gi2c China Internship Scammers Hired Hackers To Delete Negative Comments On Internet - Scam Detector Forums (http://scam-detector.com/forums/forum/employment-scams/428-gi2c-china-internship-scammers-hired-hackers-to-delete-negative-comments-on-internet) So if you want to blame that guy Bruce or Anthony, how do you account for the 32 months of complaints that were posted online BEFORE he was hired by Gi2C?


http://suddenlyseptember.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Ask-The-Right-Questions-.jpg

"I live in China now and my neighbor works for an " online review" company and her job is to sign up companies in China who pay a monthly subscription rate of $500 (she gets a 20% commission) and when the customers submit reviews the best ones go on page one and the really nasty and negative ones go on page 5 or 10 where most people never go. She told me that if the clients have only a couple good reviews, the review company will charge them $1,000 to create one, $1,500 for two, or $2,000 for three. They even have a team that writes positive articles in English and Chinese about the company to make them look good and then will link them with Google adwords so when a google search is done, only the positive stuff pops up. They do all the hotels and hostels in China but I am sure there is a similar company that does China internships, China Schools etc. So when you google a company expect to find the truth hidden on pages 5-20 and ignore all the pop-up since those are paid ads. If you dig down to page 15 you will even find obscure but helpful stuff like this Gi2c China Internship Scam - Complaint Blog (http://gi2ccomplaints.blogspot.com/) My neighbor makes over $5,000 a month and she says she is one of five sales reps one one team of three and they only do one Province, so you can see just how much time and money companies pay to hide their pimples. Have you already forgotten the Yelp! scandal?"

Insider Guest
06-17-2015, 07:40 PM
Well I think is just a few more nails in the coffin of Gi2C - the brochure they give to companies they want to accept their interns. It seems they lie to everyone - their interns, their employees, and even the companies who cooperate with them! I wonder if anyone asks them for references at the universities? They probably have shill deans and fake professors to take inquiry calls fro them too! Well, at least Yuri can't deny this one - his signature is on it!


http://scam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15923&stc=1&d=1434003053.jpg
http://scam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15926&stc=1&d=1434003053


Well I think is just a few more nails in the coffin of Gi2C - the brochure they give to companies they want to accept their interns. It seems they lie to everyone - their interns, their employees, and even the companies who cooperate with them! I wonder if anyone asks them for references at the universities? They probably have shill deans and fake professors to take inquiry calls fro them too! Well, at least Yuri can't deny this one - his signature is on it!


http://scam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15923&stc=1&d=1434003053.jpg
http://scam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15926&stc=1&d=1434003053

FYI... My former colleague at Gi2c tells me they stopped using the Pakistan boiler room, but are now quietly looking for another one in The Philippines or Thailand. They also just stopped using this brochure since a spotlight was just focused on it here at real-scam. And they are now starting to delete a lot of the fake testimonials like the one below. So it looks like they are cleaning up their trail of scamming as soon as it is pointed out at some scam reporting site. I guess we would all do the same if we ripped people off for a living! Tommy still works for the company but is not allowed to hang out in the office.

They also changed their pricing and took that "94% Approval Rating" off of their website. At least they are starting to look more legitimate on-line. I was given a list of 300 people called by Gi2c, including those below people that did business with Gi2c and their contact info which I sent to China Scam Patrol. If realscam.com wants to call or email them and do a survey, just PM for their contact details. I will get another 500 customers later this week since my friend just left Gi2c. I was told that because of the publicity realscam gave them, their sales are down almost 70% from last year - proof that realscam.com works in warning people. Congratulations! Here are a handful of those Gi2C customers. I am not going to put all 300 here,

Natalie Ribas Mantovani of Brazil Tel: 551-298-1310-077*
Amresh Subramaniam of Malaysia (just wanted China visa) Tel: 1312077102*
William Sam Billy-Pedro of U.K. Tel: 0793052011*
Vladyslav Kromenko of Ukraine (just wanted China visa to escape war draft) Tel: 1217819761*
Yang Cui American citizen Tel: 630-854-753*
Robert George Byrne of the U.K. Tel: 44 77930185*7
Katie Anne Telfer of Scotland - offered placement at AVI Capital Tel: 075845523*2
Ana Tersea Rojos of Portugal - decided Gi2C was a scam Tel: 3519131084*
Andre Dorofei of Romania Tel: 3161195451*
Shawai Shabir of the U.K. Tel: 079-1097973*
Beatriz Calvo of Spain - thought Gi2C was "too good to be true - took job in Spain instead" Tel: 34 6691952*5
Michael Mazur of Germany Tel: 15109926777*

Now if you count up their Gi2c testimonials, you will find 34 online that involve real interns (they were offered a $500 discount or free Chinese lessons to make the video) and 12 that are fake like the "Sarah Roberts" video. See below. So, out of 3,000+ interns they have serviced over the last 7 years, less than 1% were willing to give a testimonial. What do you think the other 99% would say about them? Btw...Gi2c fraud victim Winnie Maliko who was told to lie on her visa application by Gi2c staff can be contacted directly at her Linked page or at WinnieMaliko@g****.com Steve Brown the former Gi2c webmaster can be contacted at shaolin.steve@*mail.com, and the former consultant Bruce/Anthony who resigned right after Steve and was one of 22 resignations can be contacted directly at adm888mda@y***o.com - just in case anyone thinks anything I say is fabricated or I am the "envious competitor" Yuri tried to blame two months ago before he started to blame the former consultant as well. And the person playing the role of "Sarah Roberts" is a Gi2c employee named Isis whose photo is at eslwatch.info in the update section on Gi2c. The only photo I have of her is us together at a company party and I will look for it.


11035

yeyehoo86
06-17-2015, 10:30 PM
I did not give you permission to share my email nor my linkedin i would appreciate if you could remove it from your post and also refrain from sharing my personal details. Thanks


FYI... My former colleague at Gi2c tells me they stopped using the Pakistan boiler room, but are now quietly looking for another one in The Philippines or Thailand. They also just stopped using this brochure since a spotlight was just focused on it here at real-scam. And they are now starting to delete a lot of the fake testimonials like the one below. So it looks like they are cleaning up their trail of scamming as soon as it is pointed out at some scam reporting site. I guess we would all do the same if we ripped people off for a living! Tommy still works for the company but is not allowed to hang out in the office.

They also changed their pricing and took that "94% Approval Rating" off of their website. At least they are starting to look more legitimate on-line. I was given a list of 300 people called by Gi2c, including those below people that did business with Gi2c and their contact info which I sent to China Scam Patrol. If realscam.com wants to call or email them and do a survey, just PM for their contact details. I will get another 500 customers later this week since my friend just left Gi2c. I was told that because of the publicity realscam gave them, their sales are down almost 70% from last year - proof that realscam.com works in warning people. Congratulations! Here are a handful of those Gi2C customers. I am not going to put all 300 here,

Natalie Ribas Mantovani of Brazil Tel: 551-298-1310-077*
Amresh Subramaniam of Malaysia (just wanted China visa) Tel: 1312077102*
William Sam Billy-Pedro of U.K. Tel: 0793052011*
Vladyslav Kromenko of Ukraine (just wanted China visa to escape war draft) Tel: 1217819761*
Yang Cui American citizen Tel: 630-854-753*
Robert George Byrne of the U.K. Tel: 44 77930185*7
Katie Anne Telfer of Scotland - offered placement at AVI Capital Tel: 075845523*2
Ana Tersea Rojos of Portugal - decided Gi2C was a scam Tel: 3519131084*
Andre Dorofei of Romania Tel: 3161195451*
Shawai Shabir of the U.K. Tel: 079-1097973*
Beatriz Calvo of Spain - thought Gi2C was "too good to be true - took job in Spain instead" Tel: 34 6691952*5
Michael Mazur of Germany Tel: 15109926777*

Now if you count up their Gi2c testimonials, you will find 34 online that involve real interns (they were offered a $500 discount or free Chinese lessons to make the video) and 12 that are fake like the "Sarah Roberts" video. See below. So, out of 3,000+ interns they have serviced over the last 7 years, less than 1% were willing to give a testimonial. What do you think the other 99% would say about them? Btw...Gi2c fraud victim Winnie Maliko who was told to lie on her visa application by Gi2c staff can be contacted directly at her Linked page or at WinnieMaliko@g****.com Steve Brown the former Gi2c webmaster can be contacted at shaolin.steve@*mail.com, and the former consultant Bruce/Anthony who resigned right after Steve and was one of 22 resignations can be contacted directly at adm888mda@y***o.com - just in case anyone thinks anything I say is fabricated or I am the "envious competitor" Yuri tried to blame two months ago before he started to blame the former consultant as well. And the person playing the role of "Sarah Roberts" is a Gi2c employee named Isis whose photo is at eslwatch.info in the update section on Gi2c. The only photo I have of her is us together at a company party and I will look for it.


11035

China Dude
06-29-2015, 01:23 AM
I found this at another scam reporting site from a former Gi2C "Consultant" which like the attached pdf file is worth a read IMO...

"My name is Bruce/Anthony – the person thebeijinger.com and the Gi2C troll “Stefano” have been trying to smear in recent months. To be clear, I am not a “wanted pedophile” in any country and I have worked in the past as a U.S. federal agent, an air traffic controller, an honorably-discharged military vet. and an Executive for a Fortune 500 company trading on NYSE. Unfortunately, I also worked as a consultant to Gi2C which took me a year to realize was a scam because many things were hidden from me – including the Pakistan boiler room operation. After 1 year and three months I resigned as did Steve Brown, the company webmaster, as did 13 other Gi2C employees because of five incidents:

1. A senior employee named Tommy Liu was arrested for visa fraud by the PSB right in the office. I was there when they cuffed him and took him away along with his computer hard drive.

2. One of the employees complained to me that the owner was forcing her to illegally forge an invitation letter using photoshop.

3. Steve Brown and I discovered that about 80% of the internship vacancies Yuri was posting on line were fabrications.

4. Many Gi2C employees including Fay, Tracy, Naomi, Abbie, etc were being cheated on their pay checks.

5. I discovered during my last week at the office that Gi2C customers were being told to lie on their visa applications.

For the record I made no “confession” or derogatory comments toward Gi2c owner Yuri at thebeijinger.com where the troll named “Stefano” impersonated me by creating a user name “Gi2C.Anthony” and stole and inserted my photo (from an old Global Times newspaper article) as the avatar! If anyone knows Stefan’s full legal name, I am offering a 3,000 rmb reward upon confirmation. He used to work at Expertise Education as a recruiter before he was arrested and deported in 2014. If you have documented proof of his name or passport please send it to me at adm888mda@yahoo.com in confidence and advise me how you want to be paid. At thebeijinger.com Stefan was caught impersonating 5 different people and using 8 different user names. One moderator even admitted that “Stefano is Gi2c”.
Also be aware that I have kept every email every received/sent between Yuri and myself, and none of them relate to any “blackmail” Anyone wanting to review my last batch of correspondence with him can also make a request to the above email and my friends can contact me at my normal email address.

I have been blocked and banned from TBJ since 2012 when I publicly complained about their censorship of American war crimes committed in Fallujah (Iraq) Others have also been blocked and banned including Gi2C fraud victim Winnie Maliko. Refer to: http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?681817-The-Beijinger-Censorship-Scam-Is-Growing-Totally-Unethical Veteran users of TBJ are well aware of how the current thread about me originally had 167 posts but any that defended me or incriminated GI2c were censored out. In all 69 posts in the current thread were deleted and two complete threads about the wrongdoings of TBJ advertiser were deleted in the last six months, as Winnie Maliko and other can confirm along with the screens shots of comments made by her, and users “Already Freddy”, “Almost Sober”, “Longer”, “OICU812” and others. Amongst the many items deleted was my letter of resignation which can now be read at this link here: http://scam-detector.com/forums/forum/employment-scams/960-gi2c-china-internship-scam-exposed-by-former-uk-employee-reposted?p=992#post992 The truth about China scam artists will never be found at theBeijinger.com and here is the reason: http://eslwatch.info/forum/china/60-why-do-expat-forums-in-china-run-by-foreigners-censor-delete-and-ban-users.html"

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Tank
06-30-2015, 07:45 PM
Gi2c are truly a slimey but resourceful bunch. They hired some hacker to delete and corrupt links going to about 3 dozen links at other scam sites and wiped out a complete thread at scam-detector which looks to have been replaced... Lesson to be learned. If you post something about scammers, use screen shots and not links that can be hacked away. See Gi2C China Internship Scam Exposed By Former UK Employee - Reposted - Scam Detector Forums (http://scam-detector.com/forums/forum/employment-scams/960-gi2c-china-internship-scam-exposed-by-former-uk-employee-reposted) Also check out how the Beijinger (the place where they buy their ads) has been running interference for them; http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?681817-The-Beijinger-Censorship-Scam-Is-Growing-Totally-Unethical. Oh, the webs they weave...

Seattle
07-05-2015, 06:00 AM
FYI... My former colleague at Gi2c tells me they stopped using the Pakistan boiler room, but are now quietly looking for another one in The Philippines or Thailand. They also just stopped using this brochure since a spotlight was just focused on it here at real-scam. And they are now starting to delete a lot of the fake testimonials like the one below. So it looks like they are cleaning up their trail of scamming as soon as it is pointed out at some scam reporting site. I guess we would all do the same if we ripped people off for a living! Tommy still works for the company but is not allowed to hang out in the office.

They also changed their pricing and took that "94% Approval Rating" off of their website. At least they are starting to look more legitimate on-line. I was given a list of 300 people called by Gi2c, including those below people that did business with Gi2c and their contact info which I sent to China Scam Patrol. If realscam.com wants to call or email them and do a survey, just PM for their contact details. I will get another 500 customers later this week since my friend just left Gi2c. I was told that because of the publicity realscam gave them, their sales are down almost 70% from last year - proof that realscam.com works in warning people. Congratulations! Here are a handful of those Gi2C customers. I am not going to put all 300 here,

Natalie Ribas Mantovani of Brazil Tel: 551-298-1310-077*
Amresh Subramaniam of Malaysia (just wanted China visa) Tel: 1312077102*
William Sam Billy-Pedro of U.K. Tel: 0793052011*
Vladyslav Kromenko of Ukraine (just wanted China visa to escape war draft) Tel: 1217819761*
Yang Cui American citizen Tel: 630-854-753*
Robert George Byrne of the U.K. Tel: 44 77930185*7
Katie Anne Telfer of Scotland - offered placement at AVI Capital Tel: 075845523*2
Ana Tersea Rojos of Portugal - decided Gi2C was a scam Tel: 3519131084*
Andre Dorofei of Romania Tel: 3161195451*
Shawai Shabir of the U.K. Tel: 079-1097973*
Beatriz Calvo of Spain - thought Gi2C was "too good to be true - took job in Spain instead" Tel: 34 6691952*5
Michael Mazur of Germany Tel: 15109926777*

Now if you count up their Gi2c testimonials, you will find 34 online that involve real interns (they were offered a $500 discount or free Chinese lessons to make the video) and 12 that are fake like the "Sarah Roberts" video. See below. So, out of 3,000+ interns they have serviced over the last 7 years, less than 1% were willing to give a testimonial. What do you think the other 99% would say about them? Btw...Gi2c fraud victim Winnie Maliko who was told to lie on her visa application by Gi2c staff can be contacted directly at her Linked page or at WinnieMaliko@g****.com Steve Brown the former Gi2c webmaster can be contacted at shaolin.steve@*mail.com, and the former consultant Bruce/Anthony who resigned right after Steve and was one of 22 resignations can be contacted directly at adm888mda@y***o.com - just in case anyone thinks anything I say is fabricated or I am the "envious competitor" Yuri tried to blame two months ago before he started to blame the former consultant as well. And the person playing the role of "Sarah Roberts" is a Gi2c employee named Isis whose photo is at eslwatch.info in the update section on Gi2c. The only photo I have of her is us together at a company party and I will look for it.


11035

This is great stuff. Can you confirm the info/rumor that there are now less than 10 people working for Gi2C and they were all asked to write "reviews" about the company at glassdoor.com? Also can you get us copies of the other resignation letters or copies of the letters from pissed off customers? As you pointed out, Gi2c has deleted about 40 complaints that were on line less than two months ago. They were caught at scam-detector last week as you can see here: Gi2C China Internship Scam Exposed By Former UK Employee - Reposted - Scam Detector Forums (http://scam-detector.com/forums/forum/employment-scams/960-gi2c-china-internship-scam-exposed-by-former-uk-employee-reposted) Thanks for all your help. Oh... I almost forgot... I found this clever narrative about Gi2c at another scam-reporting site;


My China Internship Nightmare

I wanted to find work in China,
So I went surfing on the internet you see.
In hopes of finding a new job and life,
When I saw the ads from Gi2c.

Call now for free details,
The ad beckoned to me.
What the hell I thought,
The call and info are both free!

So I clicked on the chat line,
And a friendly girl Mary attended to me.
“You’re so lucky” she insisted,
That I stumbled across Gi2C!

She told great stories of others
Who found back door jobs you see
That are only available in China
With companies connected with Gi2c.

But to get my foot in their door,
I’d have to prove myself first as an intern.
And if I didn’t hurry, I ‘d have to stand in line,
To wait months for my turn.

As luck would have it she said,
A huge MNC had only one vacancy.
She urged me to rush her “right now”,
My current photo and CV.

I was so darn excited,
I did exactly as she said,
Then I tossed and turned-trying to sleep,
As I thought of my great future in China ahead.

Wow, to be working so soon in China…
With a huge international MNC…
This would surely be, the very best thing,
That ever happened to me!!!

She called me again to talk some more,
As she read to me a great job description.
It sounds like my dream job for sure,
I didn’t know it would be science fiction.

So I paid my $300 deposit – no problem,
For me it sounded like a very good deal.
Besides she said the deposit was “refundable”
Not one they would ever steal.

Then the truth started to drip out,
When I learned the total cost…
$3,400 more they wanted me to pay,
My temper I completely lost!

Then I learned that another $1,500
I would have to pay for my air fare.
And $1,000 more for 90 days of meals,
Not to mention $500 for daily subway fare.

My own apartment would cost another $1,500
But she said not to worry one bit,
Because I would be earning $60,000 a year,
With the new China job I would get!

She sent me great links of video testimonials,
Of a dozen happy clients of Gi2c from the past.
How the hell was I supposed to know…
These great actors were very well cast?

One even called me on the telephone,
Who told me he now worked with the BBC
For $5,000 dollars a month and only because,
Of the great internship he got from Gi2c.

I took the bait - hook, line and sinker,
I sent in my $3,400 with such great hopes.
But when I arrived in Beijing, I soon met
More than a dozen other angry dopes.

Within two weeks we were all mad as hell,
Only three in our group got what was promised.
The rest of us were just baited and switched,
Frankly I have never been so thoroughly pissed!

A refund I demanded, on a daily basis,
But they just made excuses for me.
The even suggested that I “misunderstood”
Mary’s many promises to me.

The company where they sent me,
Was surely no international MNC,
But a Chinese finance company
That just used and exploited me.

“Marketing Specialist” was my job they said,
But spamming emails in English was my true role.
I was also asked to make copies, coffee, and deliveries.
With each day my anger was growing and taking its toll.

After three weeks I said “Enough is Enough”
I didn’t get an expensive Master degree for this!
I demanded a refund and told Gi2C
My big fat ass they could kiss!

If I didn’t get one I would call in the cops.
And show them this scam operation.
That’s when the Russian boss finally said,
Please calm down, and you’ll get my cooperation.

Without making a scene at their office,
I would have been screwed over for sure.
I finally got my refund , but only because
I threatened to make a big public stir.

Maybe 30% of their interns are happy,
But the other 70% surely are not.
What we were all promised on the phone,
Was not even close to what we got.

So be warned my fellow uni graduates,
Smoke and mirrors is what you’ll get at Gi2c
They sell you a dream of a really great job,
So please learn this costly lesson from me…

Get a real China internship by going direct,
To the HR department of a big International company,
Explain what you want in your email letter and resume,
And you will get a real internship – absolutely FREE!

The HR officer will be truly sincere and honest,
And hide nothing about the internship from you.
They’ll even say if a real job will be waiting,
If you do a good job, when the internship is through.

I now wish you the best in your job hunt,
As I bid all of you farewell.
I truly regret my call to Gi2c,
My first step in a journey through hell.


A Former GetIn2China intern
(My video is not featured on their website - can you guess why?)

Note to all: Gi2c is just one of many black internships that are legal in China but they could not get away with this crap anywhere else on planet Earth.(Nigeria excepted). Google “China Internship Scams” to learn more about these companies or visit chinainternshipreviews.wordpress.com Here are some more happy customers if you think I am exaggerating: www.gooverseas.com/study-abroad/china/gi2c-group/50333 and this is what one of their own former employees dished up on them at another forum...

scam-detector.com/forums/forum/employmen...-former-u-k-employee Even though my Gi2C experience is two years old, I vow to warn every university graduate every year as long as they keep spamming their misleading ads on all the ESL and "Work Abroad" web sites. Warn your friends

China Dude
08-13-2015, 02:16 AM
Check this out... the clever cons are now buying "testimonials" for $1,000 each! https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/35wx4d/would_you_give_a_fake_testimonial_to_a_china/ Wouldn't it be a lot cheaper if they just ran an honest business and tell their customers the truth?

Seattle
10-10-2015, 01:59 AM
Note to Admin: Thought you should know that all external links to scam threads about Gi2c are being redirected to bogus web sites selling cosmetics or online services. Considering that Yuri employs a full time hacker, and 27 negative links about them have already vanished, I am not surprised. Maybe you can refresh the links somehow or none of the above warnings will be seen by prospective victims. I am not an IT guy so I do not know what the solution is. Just thought you should know.

littleroundman
10-10-2015, 02:18 AM
Hmmn,

that's strange.

I went back to the beginning of the thread and opened any links to Scam.com in both Firefox and Chrome.

All of them took me to the thread mentioned, except one where the post or thread threw up an "invalid link followed" message, indicating the thread or post had been deleted by the forum itself

Tank
10-25-2015, 11:43 AM
Just a note that this scam is still kicking around in China and they have had their hacker remove about have of the warning posts that were online this same time last year. Hopefully victims will start posting again to stay one step ahead of their hacker.

Insider Guest
11-08-2015, 01:49 AM
More of the same Gi2c deception is STILL being fed to the gullible idiots who really believe they will get a Fortune 500 job in China. The sales pitch goes like this... "The principals of Gi2C have been in China for almost 20 years and are very well connected with the HRDs. Off course they keep all the right palms greased so that our people get the plum internships. But each company is limited to about 10 management interns per year. So this is why we pay and you pay to be at the front of the line, not the end." I collected the below from some of their advertising and from cache since they are trying to escape all the lies they told people. They also lost their Labor Board complaint and had to pay almost $60,000 to former employees who were screwed out of wages and commissions

12492
12493
12494
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The Turk
11-21-2015, 09:52 AM
A company that cheats its own employees for back wages and commissions will cheat a stranger client in the blink of an eye.

Tank
02-10-2016, 02:23 AM
Scam Update: Gi2C has started an new scam called "i2" to recruit foreign teachers. This now makes 4 scams Yuri Khlystov has undertaken in the last 5 years as follows:

Getin2China

Gi2C

WiseWay Global Education

i2

Let's see what his next project will be boys and girls. His trademark is up-front fees. Any scam-baiters out there look for a new project?

Canadian
03-13-2016, 03:16 AM
They also hijacked the old Wiseway Global Education name and now offer a truly MLM scam. First they will offer you the expensive but illegal China internship. If you say "No Thanks" they then claim to be partners with the China Ministry of Education and offer you a "great guaranteed job" teaching in China where the air pollution is toxic and 18% of the population has hepatitis. To add insult to injury, they want you to pay up-front fees for everythng! Like always, they buy their testimonials and create their own wonderful reviews.

Tank
05-27-2017, 07:09 PM
Their most recent name change was made after they were eveicted from the Galaxy Soho building in late 2014. Now they call themselves Laowai Career Center. But they are still using the same old tricks (fake reviews and testimonials) China Scam Review: Getin2China is the same Russian gang running the Gi2c & Laowai Career Center China Internship & Job frauds according to victims at Reddit | Open Letter (http://opnlttr.com/letter/china-scam-review-getin2china-same-russian-gang-running-gi2c-laowai-career-center-china)

China Dude
08-04-2017, 06:30 PM
According to Paul the Brit who used to work for Gi2c, they are already working on aanother new name since Reddit and realsscam exposed the Laowai Career Center brand as just another alias. Supposedly, the new nameis rumored to be China HR but I will keep you all posted as soon asit is confirmed. Surely they will continue to use allof their existing scam brands in the meantime: Gi2C, Wiseway Global Education, Getin2China, and Laowai Career Center. BTW... I found this hilarious post at http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral that will leave you in stitches... Gi2c China Internship Scam - Complaint Blog (http://gi2ccomplaints.blogspot.com/)

Insider Guest
10-02-2017, 10:27 AM
That poem is hilarious but I guess if you are one of their many victims you would not be laughing. The average victim loses $5,700. Also I was wondering why all the online warnings about these sly ******* keep disappearing and I think I found an explanation... Gi2c Reviews According To Google and DuckDuckGo.com - China Job Scam or Legit? | Open Letter (http://opnlttr.com/letter/gi2c-reviews-according-google-and-duckduckgocom-china-job-scam-or-legit).. And this probably helps them with the smoke and mirror job as well http://chinascamreport.wordpress.com. I agree with Paul, they probably already have a new name and website we will discover in a few months when the victims start surfacing online.

More related links: Most Redittors agree with U.K. Students that Gi2c is a China Job Scam. Do YOU agree or disagree? | Open Letter (http://opnlttr.com/letter/most-redittors-agree-uk-students-gi2c-china-job-scam-do-you-agree-or-disagree) and also https://www.reddit.com/r/TEFLScams/comments/6rjpn0/is_laowai_career_center_in_china_legit_of_another/

Insider Guest
10-02-2017, 10:30 AM
Hmmn,

that's strange.

I went back to the beginning of the thread and opened any links to Scam.com in both Firefox and Chrome.

All of them took me to the thread mentioned, except one where the post or thread threw up an "invalid link followed" message, indicating the thread or post had been deleted by the forum itself

Maybe not as you think... http://chinascamreport.wordpress.com When I worked there a few years ago, there was a full-time Russian hacker named Igor working full-time for Yuri. I spoke with one of my former Colleagues and was told they upgraded to a Chinese hacker, a real pro. https://www.reddit.com/r/TEFLScams/comments/7007vp/gi2c_fake_reviews_are_many_but_147_real_ones_were/?utm_content=comments&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=TEFLScams