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JustTooMuchTime
03-04-2015, 12:19 AM
The site AnonymousTrader.co claims to be the website of a group of binary options traders that
have hacked the binary options code. However, as you'll see from the following video, whoever
these people are, are clearly light years away from being able to hack anything...in fact, they
may actually be the most bumble-headed scammers I've ever witnessed in the scam-infested
binary options market.

Enjoy...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWdJZBOWO5k

laidback
03-04-2015, 10:25 AM
O-k-a-y! So at $10k per week per individual that's $37.96 million per person,per year.Everybody that believes that a website created in Panama (Domain Registration Date: Fri Feb 13 14:26:07 GMT 2015) last month can or will deliver stand on your head...! Does't this belong in the LRM's "When times get tough..." thread???

JustTooMuchTime
03-04-2015, 01:43 PM
Here's the WHOIS - private registration in Panama as mentioned by laidback:

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg536/Paul_Schlegel/Binary%20Options/Anonymous/Anonymous-Trader-Whois-NS_zpsq4oaj9qr.jpg (http://s1242.photobucket.com/user/Paul_Schlegel/media/Binary%20Options/Anonymous/Anonymous-Trader-Whois-NS_zpsq4oaj9qr.jpg.html)

But here's the list of sites hosted on the same nameserver - a small number of them, so they are probably owned or controlled by the same person:

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg536/Paul_Schlegel/Binary%20Options/Anonymous/Anonymous-Trader-NS-List_zpsxryscwb6.jpg (http://s1242.photobucket.com/user/Paul_Schlegel/media/Binary%20Options/Anonymous/Anonymous-Trader-NS-List_zpsxryscwb6.jpg.html)

Of these (shown in the image above):

Mobile Binary Machine | mobilebinarymachine.com
Business Marketing Platform | businessmarketingplatform.com
Edge Advertising Platform | edgeadvertisingplatform.com
Local Company Advertising | localcompanyadvertising.com
Customer Lead Generator | customerleadgenerator.com
Clicks By Sierra | clicksbysierra.com
Client Loyalty Experts | clientloyaltyexperts.com
Acquire Customers Today | acquirecustomerstoday.com
Local Business Mobile App | localbusinessmobileapp.com
Smart Ad Spending | smartadspending.com
Business Marketing Whiz | businessmarketingwhiz.com
Raise Sales Today | raisesalestoday.com
Binary Wealth System | binarywealthsystem.com
My Binary Revene | mybinaryrevenge.com
Small Business Growth | smallbusinessesgrowth.com
Mobile Binary App | mobilebinaryapp.com

ClicksBySierra.com doesn't have private registration:

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg536/Paul_Schlegel/Binary%20Options/Anonymous/Anonymous-Trader-Whois-ClicksBy-Sierra_zpszq7siq5t.jpg (http://s1242.photobucket.com/user/Paul_Schlegel/media/Binary%20Options/Anonymous/Anonymous-Trader-Whois-ClicksBy-Sierra_zpszq7siq5t.jpg.html)

kissmeneckback
03-11-2015, 09:50 AM
This post was super valuable thank you.

I have spent the entire morning watching supposedly scam exposing videos of Anonymous Traders Group on Youtube, which were actually cheap Affiliate Marketing ads.

One suicidally long and boring, but honest video reviewer described how Anonymous Traders group basically earns more money for Affiliates and Brokers than it ever does for the people that open trading accounts and use the bot. However he went on to say that the software "probably works" but most people won't stick with it and so won't make the kind of money they are promising.

I felt that would only encourage people to buy in, which kind of undermined the rest of his critique.

I knew in my heart that the promises they are making are BS but I couldn't find anyone online prepared to say that, without pulling any punches...until I came across this thread on Google.

As a result I've now registered as a member and feel like I've come home!

I salute you.

ribshaw
03-11-2015, 10:36 AM
However he went on to say that the software "probably works" but most people won't stick with it and so won't make the kind of money they are promising.

Welcome to the site.

I don't believe you will ever find a system for sale at the retail level that will "probably work" or otherwise. All most of these gurus do is curve fit some data and show a hypothetical return, if they even bother with that. Add a few teasers like we went 6000X long SP Futures March 6, 2009, sure they did.

While trading binary options may be more of a slow bleed, FX can cause losses of years of profit in the blink of an eye. Many backtested systems either omit this reality or are ignorant to it. Blow-up: FXCM craters after Swiss franc-related losses - FXCM Inc. (NYSE:FXCM) | Seeking Alpha (http://seekingalpha.com/news/2226176-blow-up-fxcm-craters-after-swiss-franc-related-losses)

As they say "past returns will evaporate once your money goes in the pot"

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Many Binary Option/FX Brokers don't exactly have the best reputation, on the odd chance you do clean up with some super system, good luck collecting.

ribshaw
03-11-2015, 11:01 AM
I knew in my heart that the promises they are making are BS but I couldn't find anyone online prepared to say that, without pulling any punches...until I came across this thread on Google.

One more thought, then I really need to quit screwing off and do some yard work.:whip_the_worker:

Investors Business Daily is a paper in the States, that touts its CANSLIM investing system CAN SLIMŽ - Investors.com (http://www.investors.com/ibd-university/451606-can-slim.aspx).

Most days they have a Sector Leaders vs. The Market or some similar tease about the returns that are possible. That of course is "in theory", in practice they have a mutual fund CANGX. A simple comparison with https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0965&FundIntExt=INT shows the folly. If CANGX was a play, it would be a tragedy.

9704

Its not like IBD founder O'Neil gave this two cracks in the past with the same results...

Don't Confuse Strategy with Outcome - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dont-confuse-strategy-with-outcome/)

Caner
03-11-2015, 11:15 AM
This site (listed above in the whois) is linked from their page. Link is to a javascript file.


<script type="text/javascript" src="http://mybinaryrevenge.com/cookies/files/encode.js"></script>

My Binary Revenge (http://mybinaryrevenge.com/)

Looks like the same thing but with a different approach.

They're hotlinking to http://www.clickclickmoney.co/ for the video player source. Maybe there is no affiliation between both sites, just a detail I thought should be mentionned.

This is their affiliate info.



var form = new BOA.Form({
template: 'default',
element: '#regform-form2',
attachment: 'onload',
product: 'anonymoustrader',
validateCustomer: true,
validatePhone: true,
namespace: 'form2',
broker: 'binarybook',
tracking: {
campaign_id: 10,
offer_id: 1378,
aff_id: 4826,
url_id: 10424,
aff_sub1: '',
aff_sub2: '',
aff_sub3: '',
aff_sub5: ''
}
});


After submitting your info (lead), there's a 2 second timeout and you are redirected to


http://anonymoustrader.co/tj_bundle/inter.php

This page loads an iframe with the following source :


http://binarypromos.com/regforms_iframe/general/splitter/?COMMAND=add&email=&broker={broker}&country=CA&product=anonymoustrader&tid=102d69972a014b8a76476ddbb84c

I don't think this is of any importance though.

NikSam
03-11-2015, 04:07 PM
Interesting that FXCM, a fully licensed US fx-broker, also entered the insolvency because of the franc.
Just as all those no-license and offshore forex kitchens.
But it is their own dumb fault, they been giving 50:1 leverage (loans) to clients without knowing their credit history,
think of the poisoned mortgages, instead they have no collateral and not likely will collect even half of the debts.



The difference from kitchens : this one will probably do something to recover parts of the losses, while kitchens will just run away.

FXCM was also caught on trade manipulations (https://www.nfa.futures.org/basicnet/CaseInfo.aspx?entityid=0308179&type=reg) multiple times and been fined by CFTC and NFA. Even licensed ones manipulate client orders for their own gain causing losses to clients.