Scam.com George Dranichak (Vladimir Sviatoslavich) / Sojustask (Stephanie Haberman)

[boomer]

So a site that has been around for years that has grown into one of the most prolific scambusting sites on the net literally looks like it has self destructed within 60 days due to some incredibly mind numbing decisions. It could have survived a history of mysteriously deleted threads and an owner who seemed to ignore the site and it's moderators completely.

But to make a guy who is so obviously pro Scam the administrator of a scam site seemingly makes it look like he wanted to torpedo the site. Once that decision was made, moderators who dedicated literally thousands of hours to the site's success were banned or left within days. Leaving a tyrant who is a complete b*tch to everyone who encountered her and an Admin who didn't have a clue how to use the Admin panel, to run the site completely off the web within 45 days. Very, very sad.

[Blue Wolf]

I decided last month to stop going to scam.com because of all the problems . . . I remember over 100 of my posts instantly disappeared because somebody (I don't know who) deleted an entire thread in the Mail Scams forum.

This problem (of disappearing threads) was even worse in the MLM forum. What's the point of posting when everything gets deleted? What a waste of time.

Plus, "Zachary" was placing his own "Naked News" spam all over the place. It was disgusting. He was ruining his own website. When the highly respected Moderator SBM got banned for doing nothing wrong, that was the final straw for me.

It seems like most of the mods had already abandoned the site . . at least the best mods. Lady Mod's behavior was deplorable.

I remember when Lady Mod closed a thread and said that it was "not polite to talk about someone" when that person was banned. But she had no problem talking about No Moron Here after he quit and then got banned. And look at the way she treated SBM. She attacked SBM and still complained about her after she got banned and left the site. I think Lady Mod even changed something about SBM after she left. What was that . . . vengeance? It was shameful.

So much for being polite.

At least Len is no longer an Administrator. That's the one positive thing to come out of all of this.

[Doc Bunkum]

At least Len is no longer an Administrator. That's the one positive thing to come out of all of this.

How's that?

[Blue Wolf]

Well Doc . . . since the site no longer exists, what is Len an Administrator of? He's gone.

Of course, I could be wrong. Maybe the website is temporarily down for some unknown reason.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[Earl Lee Tobed]

Scam.com was once upon a time,the best forum out there,but of late was simply falling apart,for all the reasons already given on this thread.I personally lost seven complete threads with no reasons given by Admin or anyone else.It was clear Zac had no real interest in the site.
Anyway,thats all history now,lets all go forward with this great new forum!:cool:

[klondikemike]

Well Doc . . . since the site no longer exists, what is Len an Administrator of? He's gone.

Of course, I could be wrong. Maybe the website is temporarily down for some unknown reason.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Interesting that site goes down at roughly the same time this sites comes up?

What a coincidence.

[Mike!]

Interesting that site goes down at roughly the same time this sites comes up?

What a coincidence.

From my understanding, this site was launched a little early in order to fill the void created when SCAM.COM vanished without a trace, or warning. Granted, some of us had a pretty good hunch it was swirling the drain over a month ago but...
Rest assured this site would have launched even if SCAM.COM was up and running still. We'd have more to talk about too as I'm sure there'd be fireworks aplenty going off over there about now.

[GlimDropper]

From my understanding, this site was launched a little early in order to fill the void created when SCAM.COM vanished without a trace, or warning. Granted, some of us had a pretty good hunch it was swirling the drain over a month ago but...
Rest assured this site would have launched even if SCAM.COM was up and running still. We'd have more to talk about too as I'm sure there'd be fireworks aplenty going off over there about now.

Very true. This forum was brought online the middle of last week and many people were working on it behind the scenes. We still had plenty of work left to do when scam went offline but we stepped things up a bit and beg the indulgence of our early members while we iron out the list of many things that need to be fixed. SBM, RSAdmin, myself and several others wanted to make a place that did what the other site should have been doing but wasn't. We had no way to know scam would go offline but did what we did anyway, so even if they come back, our objectives wont change a bit.

[Unsaved Trash]

Very true. This forum was brought online the middle of last week and many people were working on it behind the scenes. We still had plenty of work left to do when scam went offline but we stepped things up a bit and beg the indulgence of our early members while we iron out the list of many things that need to be fixed. SBM, RSAdmin, myself and several others wanted to make a place that did what the other site should have been doing but wasn't. We had no way to know scam would go offline but did what we did anyway, so even if they come back, our objectives wont change a bit.

And believe me, all of the efforts of everyone involved is more than appreciated. Great job.

[Soapboxmom]

Glim and RS are the real heroes. They handled all the technical stuff. I just wrote the rules and organized a few things. They are the true genuises. We welcome all your feedback and suggestions. This is everyone's community! And, yes I am still in the process of learning about all the intricacies, but before long it will be smooth sailing!

Soapboxmom

[Live&Learn]

From my understanding, this site was launched a little early in order to fill the void created when SCAM.COM vanished without a trace, or warning. Granted, some of us had a pretty good hunch it was swirling the drain over a month ago but...
Rest assured this site would have launched even if SCAM.COM was up and running still. We'd have more to talk about too as I'm sure there'd be fireworks aplenty going off over there about now.

Oh boy!!! I can't wait to hear about Lenny's next lawsuit. :cool:

[Mike!]

Hurry kids, it's up and running again, at least for now...

[Soapboxmom]

Hurry kids, it's up and running again, at least for now...
She may have been up, but she's down again now! LOL!!!!!

Soapboxmom

[fastmoney]

You know.. I really hate people deleting threads and posts.. No one but me has posted in the oceanside threadfora while.. But before there were 168 posts, now 167...

Why do you think someone would go in and delete one post?

[Seriously?]

Why do you think someone would go in and delete one post?
Because they can?

[Live&Learn]

She may have been up, but she's down again now! LOL!!!!!

Soapboxmom

Hahaha!

Now THAT was fast. I can't get there. Oh well. No great loss.

We have one of our questions answered. They DO want to get back online.

[Live&Learn]

You know.. I really hate people deleting threads and posts.. No one but me has posted in the oceanside threadfora while.. But before there were 168 posts, now 167...

Why do you think someone would go in and delete one post?

Did you point out something negative about Broker Jones or Lenny? That could explain it.

[Live&Learn]

You know.. I really hate people deleting threads and posts.. No one but me has posted in the oceanside threadfora while.. But before there were 168 posts, now 167...

Why do you think someone would go in and delete one post?

By the way, I was able to get there just now by typing in scam.com and found only two registered posters online.

Most users ever online was 33,928, 11-30-2007 at 03:11 PM.
Disapointed, BobGatchel

[MWave]

Scam.com was hit by a Denial of Service attack. Since another website (Business For Home.org (http://www.businessforhome.org)) was hit just a couple weeks ago for their negative comments about a scam called TVI Express, and a very negative thread exists on Scam.com about this same scam, and both DOS attacks were initiated from East Asia, it is likely they are related.

But is is interesting that when a website that is designed to expose scams gets shut down by scammers, you all celebrate and root for the cyber-terrorists!

I also just want to point out one more thing... after I became an admin at Scam.com I began to enforce one, and only one, rule - no more completely baseless personal attacks made my someone just because it makes them feel good. That's it! That's the ONLY thing that has changed at Scam.com. And it is very interesting to see who has chosen not to participate under this restriction.

Someone in another thread commented that Scam.com was like a boil that finally came to a head and popped. I completely agree with the analogy. And it appears all the puss came here.

Len

[Unsaved Trash]

And it appears all the puss came here.

Len

Why yes it did. We were expecting you. Mr. MLM Forum Board Whore Extraordinaire has finally arrived. Don't you have another more important job to do over at scam.com? You know, like unlocking threads so you may continue to belittle the mods? You learned that from LM, right? Asshat. You'll just never get it, Len. You're like a turd that won't flush.

[Sojustask]

By the way, I was able to get there just now by typing in scam.com and found only two registered posters online.

Most users ever online was 33,928, 11-30-2007 at 03:11 PM.
Disapointed, BobGatchel

Numbers are already up. BTW, unless you are a mod there, you aren't going to see the people who choose the option of being unseen.

[BruceShuell]

scam.com doesn't seem to be working very well to me.

[Live&Learn]

Numbers are already up. BTW, unless you are a mod there, you aren't going to see the people who choose the option of being unseen.

There were 6 registered people online. Four of them chose to remain unseen.

[Live&Learn]

scam.com doesn't seem to be working very well to me.

I wouldn't waste your time there. I've gotten a virus twice from that board. Instead of taking care of the problem when I alerted other posters, Lenny banned me.

Nice work Lenny.

[Emet]

Numbers are already up. BTW, unless you are a mod there, you aren't going to see the people who choose the option of being unseen.

Yeah, folks can't resist watching a train wreck.
Of course, the number of posts is way down.

(I'll wait patiently for an explanation of that.)
http://www.thedailyscrapper.com/forum/images/tds/smilies/smiley_emoticons_stevieh_rolleyes.gif

[MWave]

Why yes it did. We were expecting you. Mr. MLM Forum Board Whore Extraordinaire has finally arrived. Don't you have another more important job to do over at scam.com? You know, like unlocking threads so you may continue to belittle the mods? You learned that from LM, right? Asshat. You'll just never get it, Len. You're like a turd that won't flush.

I didn't "unlock" the thread to respond. Moderators can respond to locked threads without them even knowing it's locked. I understand why I just learned this, but with all the years you moderated there, how could you not have known this?

You're really brave over here, aren't you Tom?

Len

[MWave]

I wouldn't waste your time there. I've gotten a virus twice from that board. Instead of taking care of the problem when I alerted other posters, Lenny banned me.

Nice work Lenny.

You're a bold face lair. I banned you because you accused ME of spreading the virus! And you know that's why you were banned.

And why is it that you never answer so many simple questions? How do you know your virus (assuming your computer even really has one) came from Scam.com? Especially in light of the fact that not one single other person has reported getting a virus from visiting Scam.com?

Len

[Doc Bunkum]

You're a bold face lair. I banned you because you accused ME of spreading the virus! And you know that's why you were banned.

Len

Live&Learn was banned because he/she accused you of spreading a virus? :confused:

I must have over looked that one, but what Rule # is it that says you will get banned if you accuse an Administrator of spreading a virus? :confused:

[jebaroo]

scam dot com appears to be back up and running now

good luck

[Unsaved Trash]

I didn't "unlock" the thread to respond. Moderators can respond to locked threads without them even knowing it's locked. I understand why I just learned this, but with all the years you moderated there, how could you not have known this?

I don't think that's quite right, Lenny Dearest. You're an ADMIN, you can do way more than a mod. But I never had to respond to a locked thread because once it was locked, I didn't have the need to have the last word. Actually, I think I only locked a couple of threads and gave the member complaining the last word.


You're really brave over here, aren't you Tom?

Len

Excuse me? More so than when I was over there? Actually, no. I took your bullshit all of the time, never threatened to ban you when you complained about myself and SBM's moderator abilities. I think I called you a DoucheBag many times and I meant it every single time. I hope you remember my video titled "Slick Lenny Clements: King of the DoucheBags and Network Marketing." You seemed to have enjoyed it. It was in one of the threads that got deleted.

I've never been afraid to take you on. And I've never called you a "prick" either, although you are a very obnoxious one. I've also never attempted to create another account at scam.com (unlike you) since I quit two weeks before I was banned for life, which actually means nothing since my IP automatically changes every day or two and I could. You can't ban me by IP. Not to worry though. See Lenny, I actually have ethics plus I wouldn't give George "King of Porn" the satisfaction of having another member added to the list.

Len, I do have a serious question for you though, one that everyone really wants an answer to. Please give us the courtesy of a reply, and not some bullshit version. An honest and detailed answer would be appreciated. Exactly how did you become an ADMIN? Please don't give us some generic response such as, "I asked George ("Zachary") Dranichak if I could be a mod (that came first) and after I was banned, he just made me an ADMIN." Not that type of a response, but a real and honest one. Like what did you two work out?

In addition Len, I see that you're not very happy with the scam.com mods and have made that publicly well known on the boards by humiliating them (mumbles and Katie), I know that you and "Your Majesty" don't get along, so do you realize that you can at will and at any time are able to remove them with the strike of a key? I would enjoy seeing you do that to LM. She already gnawed off your nads and chewed off what was above them. This time, I want to see her fangs slashing your jugular and how you will cope with that. And trust me, she would do that and is more than capable. Sorry Len, I know you actually think you're more evil, but her middle name is Apollyon. Give it a shot. I've yet to see my monitor go totally blood-red.

[Porkchop Express]

In addition Len, I see that you're not very happy with the scam.com mods and have made that publicly well known on the boards by humiliating them (mumbles and Katie), I know that you and "Your Majesty" don't get along, so do you realize that you can at will and at any time are able to remove them with the strike of a key? I would enjoy seeing you do that to LM. She already gnawed off your nads and chewed off what was above them. This time, I want to see her fangs slashing your jugular and how you will cope with that. And trust me, she would do that and is more than capable. Sorry Len, I know you actually think you're more evil, but her middle name is Apollyon. Give it a shot. I've yet to see my monitor go totally blood-red.

I can already see Chris and Kerry as the next mods. That should be fun!

[Subway_Eat Fresh!!!]

Kermit The Frog and I are enjoying our Subways while reading the entertainment between scam.com and Realscam.com.


If your interested in knowing what type of Subway Kermit the Frog is eating while reading this thread he is having a 6 inch white breaded ham sandwich with american cheese mayo and lettice with tomatos and onions.

I on the otherhand have chosen the 6 inch honey oat Tuna sandwich with american cheese lettice and mayo (i prefer not to have tomato's or onions on my subs)

If you would like to see a picture of Kermit the Frog watching the entertainment of realscam.com and scam.com please view my avatar. Kermit has admitted and stated more than once that he does NOT like Len Clements. I on the other hand remain neutral to the subject and just enjoy the entertainment

[Soapboxmom]

Oh, Lenny you better call for back-up immediately. Remember your historic Whineyfesto. You said that you, ChrisDoyle and ohein56 were the 3 musketeers and sole defenders of the industry on Scam.com. You said you boys were the only ones gutsy enough to brave the slime and filth at that "cesspool" Scam.com. You valiantly fought and succeeded in your quest to get those threads off of the first page of Google. Don't you think you 3 have work to do here. Maybe your swords are mightier than the pen and you can don your tights and feathered hats and take us all on!!!

Soapboxmom

[nomaxim]

Oh, Lenny you better call for back-up immediately. Remember your historic Whineyfesto. You said that you, ChrisDoyle and ohein56 were the 3 musketeers and sole defenders of the industry on Scam.com.

Soapboxmomhttp://northernhorse.com/coyoteacres/upload/Three%20musketeers.jpg

[Emet]

Oh, Lenny you better call for back-up immediately. Remember your historic Whineyfesto. You said that you, ChrisDoyle and ohein56 were the 3 musmiceketeers and sole defenders of the industry on Scam.com.

Soapboxmom
http://www.iwritenewyork.com/jan07/mice3.gif

[Doc Bunkum]

Oh, Lenny you better call for back-up immediately. You said that you, ChrisDoyle and ohein56 were the 3 musketeers and sole defenders of the industry on Scam.com. You said you boys were the only ones gutsy enough to brave the slime and filth at that "cesspool" Scam.com.

Soapboxmom

http://www.magicofthesmokies.com/3monkeys_cartoon.gif

[Soapboxmom]

If the tights and feathers don't do it for the boys how about:
60

There you go! Introducing Lenny and company!

Soapboxmom

[GlimDropper]

Come on now, Len can't make ChrisDoyle a moderator. Chris would be forced to ban himself about three times a day for "Rule #8" violations.

Oh, and the "Berry" thread is now back open. Katiescorner Rocks. :)


And Len is correct, any mod can post in any closed thread over there. I only found that out when I was composing a post in a thread that got closed before I submitted it. And the reason Unsaved didn't know about is he never felt the need to disrespect one his (then) fellow mods by trying to get the last word in a thread another mod closed. But Len isn't bond by such trivial niceties and he's honest enough to admit, both in word and deed that he has no respect for his fellow mods. Kinda refreshing in it's own way.

[Mike!]

If you haven't seen it in the chat section, Lisa is calling Clem out... Have a look if you like, here's a handy link!

Hey Len, can you please keep this on topic? (http://scam.com/showthread.php?t=129631)

Might want to check it out quick, it might not last long.

[MWave]

I don't think that's quite right, Lenny Dearest. You're an ADMIN, you can do way more than a mod. But I never had to respond to a locked thread because once it was locked, I didn't have the need to have the last word. Actually, I think I only locked a couple of threads and gave the member complaining the last word.

Excuse me? More so than when I was over there? Actually, no. I took your bullshit all of the time, never threatened to ban you when you complained about myself and SBM's moderator abilities. I think I called you a DoucheBag many times and I meant it every single time. I hope you remember my video titled "Slick Lenny Clements: King of the DoucheBags and Network Marketing." You seemed to have enjoyed it. It was in one of the threads that got deleted.

I've never been afraid to take you on. And I've never called you a "prick" either, although you are a very obnoxious one. I've also never attempted to create another account at scam.com (unlike you) since I quit two weeks before I was banned for life, which actually means nothing since my IP automatically changes every day or two and I could. You can't ban me by IP. Not to worry though. See Lenny, I actually have ethics plus I wouldn't give George "King of Porn" the satisfaction of having another member added to the list.

Len, I do have a serious question for you though, one that everyone really wants an answer to. Please give us the courtesy of a reply, and not some bullshit version. An honest and detailed answer would be appreciated. Exactly how did you become an ADMIN? Please don't give us some generic response such as, "I asked George ("Zachary") Dranichak if I could be a mod (that came first) and after I was banned, he just made me an ADMIN." Not that type of a response, but a real and honest one. Like what did you two work out?

In addition Len, I see that you're not very happy with the scam.com mods and have made that publicly well known on the boards by humiliating them (mumbles and Katie), I know that you and "Your Majesty" don't get along, so do you realize that you can at will and at any time are able to remove them with the strike of a key? I would enjoy seeing you do that to LM. She already gnawed off your nads and chewed off what was above them. This time, I want to see her fangs slashing your jugular and how you will cope with that. And trust me, she would do that and is more than capable. Sorry Len, I know you actually think you're more evil, but her middle name is Apollyon. Give it a shot. I've yet to see my monitor go totally blood-red.

Tom, you are coward, a hypocrite, and a liar. You didn't "threaten" to ban me from Scam.com, you DID ban me - for life! And you did it because you "suspected" that I had "asked" an admin to remove the smear thread about me. And then right after you did that you ran away. Just like the little punk who places a burning bag of dog **** on a porch and then rings the doorbell before running away and hiding. When the board owner, who you seemed to have no problem with all the years you were King **** over there, was informed of this he reinstated me and banned you permanently! But, of course, you didn't care because you had already scurried off to Quatloos and now to this scum pond in the making.

Good luck with that. I'm sure you'll be right at home here with all these other cowards, a hypocrites, and a liars.

Len

[Mike!]

Tom, you are coward, a hypocrite, and a liar. You didn't "threaten" to ban me from Scam.com, you DID ban me - for life! And you did it because you "suspected" that I had "asked" an admin to remove the smear thread about me. And then right after you did that you ran away. Just like the little punk who places a burning bag of dog **** on a porch and then rings the doorbell before running away and hiding. When the board owner, who you seemed to have no problem with all the years you were King **** over there, was informed of this he reinstated me and banned you permanently! But, of course, you didn't care because you had already scurried off to Quatloos and now to this scum pond in the making.

Good luck with that. I'm sure you'll be right at home here with all these other cowards, a hypocrites, and a liars.


Len

Speaking of cowards, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say YOU deleted Lisa's thread over there. Right?
You wear your AssHat well Clem.
:p


I'm sure you'll be right at home here with all these other cowards, a hypocrites, and a liars.




Is this what you meant to write? What the heck does " a hypocrites, and a liars." even mean?:confused:

[Seriously?]

Good luck with that. I'm sure you'll be right at home here with all these other cowards, a hypocrites, and a liars.

Lesson on how to make friends and influence people. Even a Mensa IQ can't replace social skills. Of which it seems Len has, like, a minus IQ in.

[Lisa]

Lol, it was him who deleted it. Zach's not on there and I don't think any of the other mods would've deleted it. Of course, I don't expect him to admit he deleted it, because he never deletes anything, never bans anyone, and never takes threads off topic! He's a saint, didn't you know??!!

Of course, he should know better than to think that deleting my legitimate thread would stop me. But since he clearly can't respond to well thought out posts and seems to only bite when you treat him like crap, I decided to take the route that seems to work best. Funny... I wonder if he has a dominatrix?? Because clearly unless you treat him like crap he doesn't respond.

ETA - I took a screenshot of this one. It was just to priceless to lose.

[Unsaved Trash]

Tom, you are coward, a hypocrite, and a liar. You didn't "threaten" to ban me from Scam.com, you DID ban me - for life! And you did it because you "suspected" that I had "asked" an admin to remove the smear thread about me. And then right after you did that you ran away. Just like the little punk who places a burning bag of dog **** on a porch and then rings the doorbell before running away and hiding. When the board owner, who you seemed to have no problem with all the years you were King **** over there, was informed of this he reinstated me and banned you permanently! But, of course, you didn't care because you had already scurried off to Quatloos and now to this scum pond in the making.

Good luck with that. I'm sure you'll be right at home here with all these other cowards, a hypocrites, and a liars.

Len

Gee Len, you're quite the charmer. No, I didn't threaten to ban you but I should have when you continued to bash both SBM and myself with what you now refer to constantly, Rule #8. BTW, someone can't count. There are now two rule #8s. One is on slash and dash, the addendum is totally different. Someone can't count.

IF you actually knew what was going on behind the scenes, you would have known that I always had an issue with "Zachary"-George about his deception as who was the owner of the board. And every single mod that was in the "loop" was well aware of that. SBM, Bibleman, Barbie, and Hopeful Cynic can confirm this. You can also ask Kerry to confirm this because we discussed it. I'm the one that told him who "Zachary" was. It did not affect the board, so I never covered for him and I was asked directly once or twice from members and I did tell them the truth. There are still two posts on the Internet Forum board about this from members. I did not cover nor did I delete them. You, on the other hand, are a coward. You delete, edit, and remove threads and posts that criticize you. You cannot take the heat. You always have to have the last word. What I find to be totally amazing and something that you just can't get through your thick skull is that everywhere you go, you are universally hated. Your posts have been deleted on MLM.com, on Yahoo, and edited at JREF. Being the MLM Forum Board Whore Extraordinaire which you've become, I know of exactly two people that actually have any respect for you. Two. And those two both post on scam.com in your defense.

I've explained several times why I banned you, just go back and read the explanation again. But the second the thread on you was deleted, that was it for me. You asked to have it removed. And you have not denied that when specifically asked. "Scurried away?" Hardly. I have ethics. Making you a mod and having the thread deleted was not ethical in any form. I did not leave just because of you, you're not that important. I left mainly because George is a stinking lowlife douchebag liar and a deceptive unresponsive jerk. At least you both have those same traits in common.

You are a coward. I have also asked you several times, even in the post above again, how you came about to be a mod and then an ADMIN. You refuse to answer. That is cowardly. I suspect the reason and I've stated why this all happened. You didn't correct me.

Now, please point out where I lied, why I'm a coward, and why I'm a hypocrite.

And furthermore, you are never right. Never. You're ego is bigger than Mt. Baldy. Your claim to fame is being an asshole. In that area, you have excelled. "Prick!"

And finally Len, I'll give you this....You did win. You have taken scam.com from being a fun and popular place to where it is today. DEAD. Your wish came true. You destroyed the site. Congratulations. You seem to have that effect everywhere you go.

[Live&Learn]

Gee Len, you're quite the charmer. No, I didn't threaten to ban you but I should have when you continued to bash both SBM and myself with what you now refer to constantly, Rule #8. BTW, someone can't count. There are now two rule #8s. One is on slash and dash, the addendum is totally different. Someone can't count.

IF you actually knew what was going on behind the scenes, you would have known that I always had an issue with "Zachary"-George about his deception as who was the owner of the board. And every single mod that was in the "loop" was well aware of that. SBM, Bibleman, Barbie, and Hopeful Cynic can confirm this. You can also ask Kerry to confirm this because we discussed it. I'm the one that told him who "Zachary" was. It did not affect the board, so I never covered for him and I was asked directly once or twice from members and I did tell them the truth. There are still two posts on the Internet Forum board about this from members. I did not cover nor did I delete them. You, on the other hand, are a coward. You delete, edit, and remove threads and posts that criticize you. You cannot take the heat. You always have to have the last word. What I find to be totally amazing and something that you just can't get through your thick skull is that everywhere you go, you are universally hated. Your posts have been deleted on MLM.com, on Yahoo, and edited at JREF. Being the MLM Forum Board Whore Extraordinaire which you've become, I know of exactly two people that actually have any respect for you. Two. And those two both post on scam.com in your defense.

I've explained several times why I banned you, just go back and read the explanation again. But the second the thread on you was deleted, that was it for me. You asked to have it removed. And you have not denied that when specifically asked. "Scurried away?" Hardly. I have ethics. Making you a mod and having the thread deleted was not ethical in any form. I did not leave just because of you, you're not that important. I left mainly because George is a stinking lowlife douchebag liar and a deceptive unresponsive jerk. At least you both have those same traits in common.

You are a coward. I have also asked you several times, even in the post above again, how you came about to be a mod and then an ADMIN. You refuse to answer. That is cowardly. I suspect the reason and I've stated why this all happened. You didn't correct me.

Now, please point out where I lied, why I'm a coward, and why I'm a hypocrite.

And furthermore, you are never right. Never. You're ego is bigger than Mt. Baldy. Your claim to fame is being an asshole. In that area, you have excelled. "Prick!"

And finally Len, I'll give you this....You did win. You have taken scam.com from being a fun and popular place to where it is today. DEAD. Your wish came true. You destroyed the site. Congratulations. You seem to have that effect everywhere you go.

Yep. You gotta give Len that much credit. He scammed SCAM.com!

[GlimDropper]

ETA - I took a screenshot of this one. It was just to priceless to lose.

Screen shots are nice, but they can be photoshoped and they need to be hosted before you can link to them. WebCitation.org (http://www.webcitation.org/index) shares none of those problems. It takes a "snap shot" of a webpage, sends you a link to the copy that will be stored on Archive.org. And it's free,

[Live&Learn]

Lol, it was him who deleted it. Zach's not on there and I don't think any of the other mods would've deleted it. Of course, I don't expect him to admit he deleted it, because he never deletes anything, never bans anyone, and never takes threads off topic! He's a saint, didn't you know??!!

Of course, he should know better than to think that deleting my legitimate thread would stop me. But since he clearly can't respond to well thought out posts and seems to only bite when you treat him like crap, I decided to take the route that seems to work best. Funny... I wonder if he has a dominatrix?? Because clearly unless you treat him like crap he doesn't respond.

ETA - I took a screenshot of this one. It was just to priceless to lose.

Saint Lenny? That's kind of scary.

Isn't Len the opposite of Saint Patrick. Instead of driving away snakes, Lenny attracts them.

[BruceShuell]

You guys better watch out! Kerry says Len is 'famous'. Famous people are bigger than you and me and famous people always seem to be right, even when they are wrong so watch it you heroic, genuine and sincere truthsayers. Ahhhh...my kind of people.

[MWave]

Is this what you meant to write? What the heck does " a hypocrites, and a liars." even mean?:confused:

I always love it when a poster is so desperate for a response to something I said that they have to resort to pointing out typos. That always means they are completely out of ammunition.

Len

[GlimDropper]

I always love it when a poster is so desperate for a response to something I said that they have to resort to pointing out typos. That always means they are completely out of ammunition.

Len

So Len, what about your good buddy Broker Jones? What part of running an unlicensed and unregulated offshore investment fund and illegally marketing it to US citizens doesn't spell out scam to you? Have you ever spoken with someone who runs an illegal HYIP (besides Broker of course)? They ALL tell you they are 100% legal and they ALL LIE (including Broker). Have you put any money into Oceanside Forex? I'm sure he'd make sure to get you paid off, professional courtesy and all but do you have any idea how many thousands of people have lost how many millions of dollars to ""offshore" investment opportunities that pretended they were legal even if they didn't file a scrap of paperwork with the controlling authorities? How will you feel when Broker starts making his investors, well, broker?

[MWave]

Gee Len, you're quite the charmer. No, I didn't threaten to ban you but I should have when you continued to bash both SBM and myself with what you now refer to constantly, Rule #8. BTW, someone can't count. There are now two rule #8s. One is on slash and dash, the addendum is totally different. Someone can't count...

...You are a coward. I have also asked you several times, even in the post above again, how you came about to be a mod and then an ADMIN. You refuse to answer. That is cowardly. I suspect the reason and I've stated why this all happened. You didn't correct me.

Now, please point out where I lied, why I'm a coward, and why I'm a hypocrite.

And furthermore, you are never right. Never. You're ego is bigger than Mt. Baldy. Your claim to fame is being an asshole. In that area, you have excelled. "Prick!"

And finally Len, I'll give you this....You did win. You have taken scam.com from being a fun and popular place to where it is today. DEAD. Your wish came true. You destroyed the site. Congratulations. You seem to have that effect everywhere you go.

I'll make you a deal, Tom. I'll start a smear thread here entirely about you, using your full name, and besides posting garbage like photos of your home and old court docs about a 16 year old divorce (or what ever is comparable to you), I'll also get a bunch of other people to join me in just making crap up about you out of thin air. Then let's see how fast you go bawling to Heather to have the thread removed and me banned.

And don't pull one of your cowardly dodges by diverting the point to some crap about how that would be in violation of board rules, that I chose to post under my real name and you didn't, or what ever rationalization you can come up with. The point is, YOU WOULD ASK THAT THE THREAD BE REMOVED! And you would do it because you don't want a bunch of made up lies about you on the board!

And Heather, remember that if Tom asks you to remove the thread that is, according to him, a terminable offense. And you agreed with him on Scam.com! So you'll have to ban him, too, right?

Are you ready to prove me wrong? Can I start such a thread?

Len

[Blue Wolf]

I have also asked you several times, even in the post above again, how you came about to be a mod and then an ADMIN. You refuse to answer. That is cowardly. I suspect the reason and I've stated why this all happened. You didn't correct me.


So Len .... are you going to tell us the truth about why you became a mod, or are you going to keep it a secret?

[Unsaved Trash]

I'll make you a deal, Tom. I'll start a smear thread here entirely about you, using your full name, and besides posting garbage like photos of your home and old court docs about a 16 year old divorce (or what ever is comparable to you), I'll also get a bunch of other people to join me in just making crap up about you out of thin air. Then let's see how fast you go bawling to Heather to have the thread removed and me banned.

And don't pull one of your cowardly dodges by diverting the point to some crap about how that would be in violation of board rules, that I chose to post under my real name and you didn't, or what ever rationalization you can come up with. The point is, YOU WOULD ASK THAT THE THREAD BE REMOVED! And you would do it because you don't want a bunch of made up lies about you on the board!

And Heather, remember that if Tom asks you to remove the thread that is, according to him, a terminable offense. And you agreed with him on Scam.com! So you'll have to ban him, too, right?

Are you ready to prove me wrong? Can I start such a thread?

Len

Actually Lenny, "MLM Forum Board Whore Extraordinaire," if you ask me a question, I will answer you honestly. You have a problem with that. I don't.

I am not on any internet sites. I do not and have not been on any Facebook pages, I don't have my own website, and I don't promote any product. You do. Big difference. You promote yourself. You even have it linked on scam.com on "visit my website" and in your post announcement. You've been in numerous MLMs. So Len, you set yourself up. You put it all out there for the world to see and make the claims which you have made. You put the information out there on yourself and you're posting under your name on some of them. This was exactly what we mods on scam.com were concerned about with you outing them. And now you've just pretty much confirmed it. You would out an anonymous poster that disagrees with you.

As for starting a thread on me, that would be pretty boring. Since you do know my full name and probably everything using White Pages, you can find out where I live, etc. Then do a Google search on me and see if you can find even one shred of dirt. I will tell you this, I did have one traffic ticket here in San Diego, and I had one back in 1969 in Lamont, WY. That's it. As for my divorce, go ahead. But if you ask me about it, I'll tell you and it was 11 years ago, not 16 and I'm still close to the ex and both of my boys. On that very subject (and you can confirm this if you would like), I sent out a PM to several mods when that very thing was posted about you on scam.com. I didn't like it one bit. I lost the battle. I was overruled. You might learn something from that now in what you're posting there. Learn from the mods there that have taken you on and learn from the members. Not everything is going to go your way. And with your attitude and ego, you're making it worse.

If you would actually like to post on thread on me, then go ahead. But exactly what are you going to say and what category would you place it? I guess you could put it in this forum. It sure couldn't go in any of the others since I'm not involved with any MLM, Internet Scam, etc. But you would have to have a subject to start with. You don't. Let me provide you with a title: No_Moron_Here aka Unsaved Trash: Just a Dickhead or an Average Guy? Would I ask Heather to delete it? Most likely not. I have a sense of humor. You don't.

Now, you still didn't and haven't answered my questions. You just whined again. If you notice, I answered all of your questions. And Len, you've posted more here than at scam.com as of late. Why? I know.


I am also only deleting posts that are entirely meant to bash me personally. There are obviously numerous posts here and elsewhere that are off topic. But when your off topic post is 100% nothing but a series of personal insults towards a moderator, then it gets deleted.

Len

How many times have I read this same thing with just a slight difference in wording? You poor, poor little thing. I'm really sorry you're being picked on. You don't get. You deserve it. If you would just shut the hell up, it would stop. It would have stopped months ago. Try it.

Now, will you answer my questions on if you did indeed ask that the thread be removed on you? And what deal did you and "Zachary"-George work out that placed you in a mod and then ADMIN position? Please extend me that courtesy.

[Unsaved Trash]

Len - I just read this over at scam.com. This is the best reply and advice ever given to you. Listen to it. I just wish I were that astute. (HC, if I could rep you over there, I would.)
scams - View Single Post - Berryview.com Is NOT a Scam! (http://scam.com/showpost.php?p=941113&postcount=88)

[fastmoney]

Len - I just read this over at scam.com. This is the best reply and advice ever given to you. Listen to it. I just wish I were that astute. (HC, if I could rep you over there, I would.)
scams - View Single Post - Berryview.com Is NOT a Scam! (http://scam.com/showpost.php?p=941113&postcount=88)

Len's ego won't let him..

[Mike!]

Len - I just read this over at scam.com. This is the best reply and advice ever given to you. Listen to it. I just wish I were that astute. (HC, if I could rep you over there, I would.)
scams - View Single Post - Berryview.com Is NOT a Scam! (http://scam.com/showpost.php?p=941113&postcount=88)

I saw that and was thinking the very same thing. Bet a health cookie he ignores the advice completely. Double or nothing he tries to refute the advice completely.
Who knew you could make an AssHat a fashion statement?:RpS_flapper:

[Mike!]

Len's ego won't let him..

Reminds me of a line from "The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy"...
"If there's anything around here more important than my ego, I want it caught and shot now! "

[fastmoney]

Scam.com seems to be back to being scam.com not 208....


BTW: no google ads.. Hum..

Me thinks zach was trying to pull a fast one on google that did not work..

[MWave]

This was exactly what we mods on scam.com were concerned about with you outing them. And now you've just pretty much confirmed it. You would out an anonymous poster that disagrees with you.

Please show where I just outed an anonymous poster that disagreed with me.

I just ASKED you if I could start a thread about you, using your full name, to prove a point that you would ask that the thread be removed. Did you really not get that? I don't know how I could have explained it any clearer.


As for starting a thread on me, that would be pretty boring... Then do a Google search on me and see if you can find even one shred of dirt. I will tell you this, I did have one traffic ticket here in San Diego, and I had one back in 1969 in Lamont, WY. That's it. As for my divorce, go ahead. But if you ask me about it, I'll tell you and it was 11 years ago, not 16 and I'm still close to the ex and both of my boys.

This is one of those many moments I've had while conversing with you where I'm left to wonder, is he really this unintelligent, or is he just pretending to be so he doesn't have to answer the point. It's hard to believe that someone can be as prolific a message board poster as you and not have at least some reading comprehension ability, so I'm still willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it is the latter.

But just in case, I'll try once more...

I said I would start a smear thread about you where I and several other people MAKE UP A BUNCH OF CRAP ABOUT YOU OUT OF THIN AIR! I'll elaborate, to make the point even clearer... we'll say you actually had three children, but one you keep secret. We'll say yes, you did get a traffic ticket, but it's funny how you didn't mention the cocaine they found after they made the stop. We'll say you were forced to leave Lamont, WY because of the drug ring you were busted for. Things like that. Well, actually, we won't outright say you did any of these things, we'll just set everything up to strongly suggest you did it, and leave the rest up to the imagination of the reader. That's more in line with how the smear thread against me was constructed.

Of course, now it's easy for you to agree because I've already declared, twice, that everything would be fabricated. But the point has still surely been made. If anyone had started such a thread against you, you absolutely would run screaming to Heather to have it removed. And based on your own declared criteria, the very act of asking for it to be removed should cause you to be terminated. And that would be as absurd here as it was on Scam.com.


Now, you still didn't and haven't answered my questions. You just whined again. If you notice, I answered all of your questions. And Len, you've posted more here than at scam.com as of late. Why? I know.

I'll answer every single one of your questions right here:

712-432-1000, pin 544-326-626

That's a conference call line we can use (and hopefully Heather will, unlike you Tom, actually call that number to see that it doesn't advertise anything before deleting it and warning me - you really were a horrible moderator). Just let me know when you want to go at it.

But no, I am not going to feed you more material for you to digest and then crap back out all over this board. No matter how I answered your questions, and no matter how reasonable my answers, that's exactly what you would do.

As Doc has reminded you so many times now, I'm not stupid.

Len

[Soapboxmom]

Is Lenny going to host his own group therapy session??? You do sound just s bit unhinged, Lenny. You just aren't faring well at any of the alleged "cesspools" you haunt, are you, boy?
:Fiddler:

Soapboxmom

[Seriously?]

we'll just set everything up to strongly suggest you did it, and leave the rest up to the imagination of the reader.
Like you just did here?

This requires access to some sophisticated technical knowledge. SBM's husband is involved in the computer technology industry. SBM's website opened the exact same day this site went down.
I'm glad we're clear on who's doing what to whom.

[Lisa]

I'll gladly take Len on in a real debate. However, I don't want to hear about him whining about how I made fun of him or "personal" or "vicious" attacks on him. If he wants to have a real debate it has to be on a subject of real substance, like his inability to follow the rules on scam.com. And like any real debate a moderator would need to be acquired, however the moderator would have to be completely unbiased on the subject. To be entirely honest, these kind of debates work much better online where you can provide proof of your accusations so those involved are capable of seeing the evidence for themselves. The problem with a debate over a phone line is that it allows someone to make accusations without having to provide proof. Debating over the phone is definitely not a preferred method of debate. You either need to do it in person where you can provide evidence for viewing or online where you can also provide evidence.

A real debate requires you to provide evidence of your claims and back up your information. So Len, if you're willing to have a real debate I'm game - but like I said a phone debate is inherently flawed to make the person who simply sounds the best most likely to win. It requires no real skill in regards to actually legitimately debating claims.

[GlimDropper]

This is one of those many moments I've had while conversing with you where I'm left to wonder, is he really this unintelligent, or is he just pretending to be so he doesn't have to answer the point. It's hard to believe that someone can be as prolific a message board poster as you and not have at least some reading comprehension ability, so I'm still willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it is the latter.

But just in case, I'll try once more...

I said I would start a smear thread about you where I and several other people MAKE UP A BUNCH OF CRAP ABOUT YOU OUT OF THIN AIR! I'll elaborate, to make the point even clearer... we'll say you actually had three children, but one you keep secret. We'll say yes, you did get a traffic ticket, but it's funny how you didn't mention the cocaine they found after they made the stop. We'll say you were forced to leave Lamont, WY because of the drug ring you were busted for. Things like that. Well, actually, we won't outright say you did any of these things, we'll just set everything up to strongly suggest you did it, and leave the rest up to the imagination of the reader. That's more in line with how the smear thread against me was constructed.

Of course, now it's easy for you to agree because I've already declared, twice, that everything would be fabricated. But the point has still surely been made. If anyone had started such a thread against you, you absolutely would run screaming to Heather to have it removed. And based on your own declared criteria, the very act of asking for it to be removed should cause you to be terminated. And that would be as absurd here as it was on Scam.com.


No, if we deleted it that would make it harder for other people to understand all the jokes we'd be making about it. It's always more fun with more people laughing. Heres a hint Len, if you think someone on a message board is full of crap and you delete it, only you know that person was full of crap. But if you confront that person with facts they can't refute, everyone knows they're full of crap. See how that works?

But if you want to whip out the Len Clements official measuring stick of full of crap (patent pending, all rights reserved), and delete every thread over at scam that doesn't "measure up" feel free, we can't stop you. And it would make a worthy addition to the Bio on your website, "Recognized Scam.com expert on Full of Crap." I don't think anyone here would dispute your vast first hand knoledge of the topic.

[Seriously?]

The Len Clements Full of Crap Award.

I think it has a nice ring to it.

[Lisa]

No, if we deleted it that would make it harder for other people to understand all the jokes we'd be making about it. It's always more fun with more people laughing. Heres a hint Len, if you think someone on a message board is full of crap and you delete it, only you know that person was full of crap. But if you confront that person with facts they can't refute, everyone knows they're full of crap. See how that works?

But if you want to whip out the Len Clements official measuring stick of full of crap (patent pending, all rights reserved), and delete every thread over at scam that doesn't "measure up" feel free, we can't stop you. And it would make a worthy addition to the Bio on your website, "Recognized Scam.com expert on Full of Crap." I don't think anyone here would dispute your vast first hand knoledge of the topic.

Lol... would the measuring stick also be edible, have the ability to write, and amazing healing powers??

[Seriously?]

Lol... would the measuring stick also be edible, have the ability to write, and amazing healing powers??

Of course.

[Mike!]

No, if we deleted it that would make it harder for other people to understand all the jokes we'd be making about it. It's always more fun with more people laughing. Heres a hint Len, if you think someone on a message board is full of crap and you delete it, only you know that person was full of crap. But if you confront that person with facts they can't refute, everyone knows they're full of crap. See how that works?

But if you want to whip out the Len Clements official measuring stick of full of crap (patent pending, all rights reserved), and delete every thread over at scam that doesn't "measure up" feel free, we can't stop you. And it would make a worthy addition to the Bio on your website, "Recognized Scam.com expert on Full of Crap." I don't think anyone here would dispute your vast first hand knoledge of the topic.

I think you messed up. That's the official patented, "Clem Lemons Certified Full-o-Crap-o-Meter", ask for it by name, don't leave home without it, call before midnight tonight and we'll throw in a second "Clem Lemons Full-o-Crap-o-Meter" (just pay seperate shipping and handling charges) Plus, as an added bonus, we'll include the "Pocket Full-o-Crap-o-Meter" FREE (just pay more seperate shipping and handling charges) and as an added extra bonus bonus, we'll include this informitive pamplet, "Winning Phone Debates Without Really Trying" at no extra charge (just pay even more seperate shipping and handling charges). Don't forget, that's midnight tonight to get the pair of "Clem Lemons Certified Full-o-Crap-o-Meters", the "Pocket Full-o-Crap-o-Meter" AND the "Winning Phone Debates Without Really Trying" pamplet, all for one low price! (just pay some insane seperate shipping and handling charges). Be the first on your block to know just how deep the crap is getting!

:RpS_thumbup:

[GlimDropper]

Lol... would the measuring stick also be edible, have the ability to write, and amazing healing powers??

The real question is do we sell them use a binary or unilevel comp plan?



Can one become a court certified expert in full of crap? (Thanks Mike!)

[Lisa]

Hey guys, we better get back on topic.

Now, I think a unilevel comp plan is the better idea. I wish my computer hadn't died from a virus, I could use Gimp to make an actual certificate for a court certified expert in full of crap. :(

[Emet]

I will not participate in an MLM. Network marketing or dual marketing is acceptable as they are not MLMs.

Ay least that's what the Mary Kay lady told me.

[nomaxim]

http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/11/15/633938834359496710-PIGEONS.jpg

Well, they do have the Golden Crocoduck Award. I'm not aware of any type of Full of Crap Award. How about a nice bag instead?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_eHWWOnCb1hs/SbuCQ2-igAI/AAAAAAAAAdE/DFKN6Lq1NW0/s400/BAG.jpg

Oh wait, found one. :RpS_smile:

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/Rainfogwoman/trophy_marino.png

[Emet]

http:///www.pjtv.com/content-images/0001_TalkingCrap_ScreenGrab4.jpg

[Unsaved Trash]

Please show where I just outed an anonymous poster that disagreed with me.

That is not what I said. Go read it again. And do you remember "Joel?"


I just ASKED you if I could start a thread about you, using your full name, to prove a point that you would ask that the thread be removed. Did you really not get that? I don't know how I could have explained it any clearer.

You didn't ASK, this is exactly what you stated:


I'll make you a deal, Tom. I'll start a smear thread here entirely about you, using your full name, and besides posting garbage like photos of your home and old court docs about a 16 year old divorce (or what ever is comparable to you), I'll also get a bunch of other people to join me in just making crap up about you out of thin air. Then let's see how fast you go bawling to Heather to have the thread removed and me banned.

What part of "I will start" is asking for permission? Just pointing that out, because I did get it the first time. It was a scenario. Or am I too stupid to have firgured that out?


This is one of those many moments I've had while conversing with you where I'm left to wonder, is he really this unintelligent, or is he just pretending to be so he doesn't have to answer the point. It's hard to believe that someone can be as prolific a message board poster as you and not have at least some reading comprehension ability, so I'm still willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it is the latter.

Len, "Forum Board Whore Extraordinare," you gave me a scenario and I gave you answers to that. Don't you understand that? And I made my point.


But just in case, I'll try once more...

I said I would start a smear thread about you where I and several other people MAKE UP A BUNCH OF CRAP ABOUT YOU OUT OF THIN AIR! I'll elaborate, to make the point even clearer... we'll say you actually had three children, but one you keep secret. We'll say yes, you did get a traffic ticket, but it's funny how you didn't mention the cocaine they found after they made the stop. We'll say you were forced to leave Lamont, WY because of the drug ring you were busted for. Things like that. Well, actually, we won't outright say you did any of these things, we'll just set everything up to strongly suggest you did it, and leave the rest up to the imagination of the reader. That's more in line with how the smear thread against me was constructed.

Do you really expect me to put this into my own personal life scenario? I can't relate. You were never accused of these types of illegal activities. I don't recall seeing anyone on scam.com being accused of this type of activity. So how does it even remotely apply since that never happened at scam.com and if had, it would most likely would have been reported and been removed unless someone posted the court documents.

The first time I called you out was when you said you "live in an exclusive community." You said it, not me. That's when I checked and found your "exclusive community" be lower to middle-class homes. I would go over there and check for some other things, with the rate the threads and posts have been deleted, it's pointless. So you find something I said about you or anyone said about you that would be considered slander. I called you, "Slick Lenny Clements, King of the MLM DoucheBags." I'm sticking with it.


Of course, now it's easy for you to agree because I've already declared, twice, that everything would be fabricated. But the point has still surely been made. If anyone had started such a thread against you, you absolutely would run screaming to Heather to have it removed. And based on your own declared criteria, the very act of asking for it to be removed should cause you to be terminated. And that would be as absurd here as it was on Scam.com.

Len, there is a thread about me over there. LM locked it. I did not complain, I didn't whine, and I didn't carry on. There are two others where I'm criticized. They're still there. Find them yourself. Some of the comments towards me aren't too flattering either. I let them stand.


I'll answer every single one of your questions right here:

712-432-1000, pin 544-326-626

That's a conference call line we can use (and hopefully Heather will, unlike you Tom, actually call that number to see that it doesn't advertise anything before deleting it and warning me - you really were a horrible moderator). Just let me know when you want to go at it.

Why must everything be on your terms? I asked you to post it here for everyone to read. You have declined. You are a coward in the highest degree, and even if SBM and myself were to call, you'll just have a hissy fit and call us both "A bunch of pricks!" Post it here. I don't like you and I sure don't respect in any form. So why would I want to talk with you? The very first time I was told of you, I was referred to your website by a certain someone that bought your product or mentoring, or whatever you call it. I read it. The next time I spoke with this person, the first description out of my mouth was, "Jesus Christ, the guy is a ******* douchebag." You know who I'm talking about so you can confirm that.


you really were a horrible moderator

Tell you what Len, you start a poll and ask the members who is worse, you or me. I was a mod for two years and never racked up as many criticisms as you have in one week. I wonder why that is? And I most certainly hold your opinion on that in the highest regards especially since I see that you changed the title of the Berryview thread. That truly is a disgrace. You have belittled Katie, Mumbles, SBM, and myself. Who is next, LM and Blue Crab? I "think" you're wiser than to take on LM. She's going to win anyway, so go ahead. She's already beat you down several times.


But no, I am not going to feed you more material for you to digest and then crap back out all over this board. No matter how I answered your questions, and no matter how reasonable my answers, that's exactly what you would do.

That's because you're a coward. You haven't provided me any answers so far. You won't tell us what the deal was. I'm fairly sure you threatened George with a lawsuit. Am I wrong? He caved to everyone else. But you won't post what really happened. Would you rather I call and post it second hand with my twist on it? That just wouldn't be fair now, would it?


As Doc has reminded you so many times now, I'm not stupid.

Len

That's true, but he has reminded me so many times now, You're an egotistical asshole. He's absolutely correct and he hasn't missed a beat.

And Len, I urge you to read and respond to the best post and advice to you which has ever been given: scams - View Single Post - Berryview.com Is NOT a Scam! (http://scam.com/showpost.php?p=941113&postcount=88)

[Doc Bunkum]

As Doc has reminded you so many times now, I'm not stupid.


Len

I'll admit, I did say you weren't stupid.

But I didn't say that "many" times - twice I believe.

You sure are prone to exaggeration.

Like over on thatMLMbeat blog:


He goes by “Doc Bunkum” on Scam, where he’s posted many times attacking me and Yoli, even going so far as to post that Blast Caps have severally injured small children and included a photo of a bloody baby. This guy is a sicko.

As I explained "many" times, I never claimed that Blast Caps have severally injured small children (I posted a warning label to that effect from a Yoli site - which I still have) and I never included a photo of a bloody baby (I still have that photo I used if you'd like me to refresh your memory).

Say! Now that's a good idea!

Maybe I should start a Yoli thread over here and post that picture again, just for old times sake, ya know?

After all, you seem to have enjoyed it so much.

[Seriously?]

You're an egotistical asshole.
Mumbles description was better Malignant narcissism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malignant_narcissism).

[Luzer]

I visited scam.com and it's the wild wild west over there. It's a bunch of pro mlm guys saying MLM is great and then refusing to explain why, and one dude who thinks scam.com is great advertising for his MLM business. Crazy.

[Soapboxmom]

scams - report the scam here
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Created:
1994-10-17


Expires:
2012-10-16


Owner:
Vladimir Sviatoslavich World Free Speech Alliance (http://website.informer.com/Vladimir+Sviatoslavich+World+Free+Speech+Alliance. html)


Hosting company:
Rackco.com (http://website.informer.com/Rackco.com.htm)


Registrar:
MONIKER


IPs:
208.86.2.178 (http://website.informer.com/208.86.2.178)


DNS:
ns1.scam.com
ns2.scam.com






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Registrant [1623868]: Vladimir Sviatoslavich (http://website.informer.com/visit?domain=scam.com)scamcomwebmaster@gmail.com World Free Speech Alliance 616 Majke Jovrosine #3 Belgrade AE 1103 RSAdministrative Contact [1623868]: Vladimir Sviatoslavich scamcomwebmaster@gmail.com World Free Speech Alliance 616 Majke Jovrosine #3 Belgrade AE 1103 RS Phone: +1.3477226266Billing Contact [1623868]: Vladimir Sviatoslavich scamcomwebmaster@gmail.com World Free Speech Alliance 616 Majke Jovrosine #3 Belgrade AE 1103 RS Phone: +1.3477226266Technical Contact [1623868]: Vladimir Sviatoslavich scamcomwebmaster@gmail.com World Free Speech Alliance 616 Majke Jovrosine #3 Belgrade AE 1103 RS Phone: +1.3477226266Domain servers in listed order: NS2.SCAM.COM NS1.SCAM.COM Record created on: 1994-10-17 00:00:00.0 Database last updated on: 2010-12-16 12:39:41.65 Domain Expires on: 2012-10-16 00:00:00.0

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Registrant:
World Free Speech Alliance
616 Majke Jovrosine #3
Belgrade, Serbia 1103
RS
1-347-722-6266

Domain Name: TALKHARD.COM

Administrative Contact:
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616 Majke Jovrosine #3
Belgrade, Serbia 1103
RS
1-347-722-6266

Technical Contact:
Sviatoslavich, Vladimir http://source.domaintools.com/email.pgif?md5=26c9722cf80d78903eac748638924878&face=arial&size=9&color=000000&bgcolor=FFFFFF&face=arial&size=9&color=0000FF&bgcolor=FFFFFF&format[]=underline&format[]=transparent&format[]=transparent (http://www.domaintools.com/research/reverse-whois/?email=26c9722cf80d78903eac748638924878)
616 Majke Jovrosine #3
Belgrade, Serbia 1103
RS
1-347-722-6266

Record last updated 11-25-2011 03:50:00 PM
Record expires on 12-28-2012
Record created on 12-28-2001

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.EXMASTERS.COM 81.31.38.10
NS2.EXMASTERS.COM 212.80.67.66

[Whip]

I hadn't realized Serbia and NY merged.

[Blue Wolf]

I did notice a while ago that somebody named Sviat was the admin. over there.

I just thought it was George using a different name.

[Whip]

I did notice a while ago that somebody named Sviat was the admin. over there.

I just thought it was George using a different name.

I believe it is if I am reading what SBM posted correctly.

[Blue Wolf]

I believe it is if I am reading what SBM posted correctly.

I don't think it is him. Well, not anymore.

This is what Sviat said a few days ago: (I don't know if I'm allowed to place a link here, so to be on the safe side, I'll just quote him . . . this is from the "Sorry about my multiple logins guys" thread over at scam):

"George is in NY now here at my townhouse finishing up his contract with us as a consultant. For the record he never owned the site, was just the marketer and hates the backlash this site did to himself and his family from all the scammers out there. He's been the most helpful and funniest guy I ever met. There's a million moving peices to this site and he truly wants only the best for me and my crew. If calling him a friend hurts me here, so be it, he's a straight up man. I'll have him post a final farewell and hide from all the shrapnal."

[Whip]

I believe it's been proven that he has pulled this once before.

[surfer]

Well, I haven't posted on scam.com in almost 5 years and apparently missed all of the fun stuff.

I logged in earlier and saw a couple PM's about a scam2.com that popped up for a little while.

Can't remember what that was about.

[Whip]

Never heard of it myself.

[surfer]

scam2 doesn't exist anymore, but here's a copy of the message they were
sending via PM to scam.com users.

It was from a jamesthomas back in 2006.

Was this when things started going downhill at scam.com?


08-25-2006, 10:37 AM

Join Date: Dec 1969
Posts: 0

Scam2.com has launched
Dear Scam.com member. As you are aware scam.com was delisted by Google, which means that Google ads temporarily were taken off Scam.com and will probably soon be completely gone for good in the next few days.

This means scam.com has lost almost all of its revenue for the last 30-60 days and possibly will soon be taken down all together. This would be a shame as scam.com has been a great resource for us to help other consumers and each other.

A group of scam.com members have formed another site called scam2.com so we will all have a resource to keep posting and reporting scams.

We have taken the liberty of creating an account for you using your current username on scam.com. As a charter member of scam2.com you will be initially designated as a senior member.

To log in simple go to scam2.com and log in with the following information

Username: surfer

Password: a0045


You may change the settings and enter your correct information (such as email address) and change your password if you wish. If you choose not to use your username we will let another member use it or leave it inactive.


We are also seeking moderators to help maintain the integrity of the site. If you wish to be a moderator please email us at mod@scam2.com. Since we have been approved by Google we will be able to earn some income. We will be passing some of this on to the moderators after we have a feeling of how much revenue we will receive and what the exact expenses are.

If there are any problems or technical difficulties involved in the use of this account please contact us at help@scam2.com

Thanks for taking the time to read this and happy scam catching!!!
Scam2 Team
www.scam2.com

[Soapboxmom]

Was this when things started going downhill at scam.com?
Lest I compose an answer that would challenge Gone With the Wind for longevity:

Quatloos! • View topic - New Management at Scam.com (http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=5902)

Quatloos! • View topic - New Management at Scam.com II (http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=5967)

RS and Quatloos are free of advertising and no incentives or threats will result in posts being removed. Ol' Georgie boy is only seeing $$$$. He has never been interested in protecting the public from scams as his actions clearly demonstrate.

Soapboxmom

[Soapboxmom]

Bunky's Blog | Just another WordPress.com site (http://docbunkum.wordpress.com/)

Nothing is a better read than Bunky's Blog. The rest of the story can be found there.

If Vladimir Sviatoslavich really isn't George then we should see George's lying goon patrol Sojustask / Stephanie Haberman being shown the door. No new responsible owner would keep someone like that as an admin. Sviat would also want to delete any threads on Scam that reference this whole sordid saga and start fresh.

George Dranichak did own the site and he made a complete mess out of it. Is he going to fix it so those dozens of banned ***** common words will appear again? I know exactly why they are gone. Energy, water, power and all the rest were in the names or descriptions of obvious scams whose threads were deleted by George under threat or incentive. That should result in a drove of mad scammers who will once again find their crap will be discussed on Scam and Google up. This will be hilarious to watch!

Soapboxmom

[Finix]

I've been so wrapped up in my offline life, I've completely forgotten to follow the latest industry forums gossip.

If someone with a common sense could please recap the major historical events as far as scam.com goes, and the reasons for this split into scam and realscam, I'd be very grateful.

[Soapboxmom]

I've been so wrapped up in my offline life, I've completely forgotten to follow the latest industry forums gossip.

If someone with a common sense could please recap the major historical events as far as scam.com goes, and the reasons for this split into scam and realscam, I'd be very grateful.
I am usually accused of being quite long-winded, but I will give it a shot. How I ended up the first admin here is quite a tale.

I along with ten other starry-eyed volunteers signed on as Mods in January 2009. It was totally volunteer. Sojustask had made her grand exit and told off the owner Zachary on his own forum announcement section. NoMoronHere, Bibleman, HopefulCynic (our own GlimDropper and tech guru behind this forum) and others went to work. Much to our horror the forum had not been cared for at all. There were thousands and thousands of posts that were porn, drug ads and spam. We devoted weeks and hundreds of hours to cleaning up that dump. The Hotel Forum went from 60 pages to just 2 for one example.

The forum was finally cleaned up and we had banned the few members that had done nothing but flame and cause complaints. Everything was running smoothly then Mumbles had his meltdown and banned a bunch members that posted in the political forum and began removing pro-MLM posts. We battled him and got Zachary to remove him before he destroyed the place. Things were running wonderfully again and then who should show up but Sojustask.

She decided to come in and take over again. She brought back Mumbles and spent her time undermining and publicly attacking the new Mods who were doing their jobs as instructed by the owner. I was told in writing by said owner to ignore her and do my own thing. He said he didn't know why she came back, but that he had to be loyal to her. We all knew why. Zachary was George Dranichak at the same IP address. The site had never been sold. She had all the dirt on him.

Sojustask would drop in for a short peek maybe once a week, but would cause havoc as she stepped into situations where she had not read the threads and had no clue what was going on. We were always bumping heads with her. It was a miserable situation and the owner never bothered with the place so we were stuck dealing with her meltdowns and public attacks.

Then all hell broke loose when Len Clements was made a Mod. He had stated on forums all over the net that Scam was a cesspool and overrun by trolls and he was determined to bring the place down and get it off of the first page of Google. His goal was to out the anonymous posters. He wrote on Scam that he wanted to out posters and was threatening them. I blew a fuse. I quoted and forwarded all this to Zachary / George and as usual he ignored all of us including Sojustask.

NMH banned Len and sent him packing. George brings him back over Sojustask's head as an admin. Well, we all knew that feisty witch would never stand for it. She made hamburger meat out of him in short order. Always great for a forum to be tangled in a nasty power struggle. The members were in an uproar except for poor Heiney and Chrissy, of course. She put up new rules about not allowing posts trashing Lenny and I hadn't stopped posters from posting them. Only new posters' posts go up for moderation before appearing, so there was no way I could do anything to prevent it. Remeber George always rambled on about how he wanted to stop scammers in their tracks. Clements was not going to honor that. So, I would have enforced the rule once I had seen it and encouraged folks (as I was already doing) to contact the owner privately and express their concerns, but I wasn't given the chance. Even though SJA knew what Lenny's agenda was she was having fun attacking me and undermining Lenny publicly. I would have never done anything to harm that forum that I had loved at that time. She was hell bent on destroying the place and asserting her authority and the owner didn't have the good sense or the man parts to step in. I left in protest after Sojustask banned me for 3 days.

Many members spoke out in my support and demanded Lenny be removed. I knew I couldn't go back. George was a liar and fraud who was only out to make money off of the site and promote his porn crap. Sojustask was just as dishonest and underhanded. That site was never going to be a place that would allow folks to expose scams and truly help others. George was removing threads and posts en mass and had *** numerous common words as they were in the titles of well known scams. Those scams and scammers had threatened or bribed George into taking down very informative and totally legitimate threads.

I went from over 6000 posts to 2000 around that time. I worked for that idiot like a dog for free mind you and I informed him in writing that Tim Darnell had not gotten an injunction and had lost the case against me in Summary Judgment so the judge did NOT want anything removed. Another judge in a case against Darnell and that snake Jack Weinzierl also said flat out I did not need to remove anything. George removed many long threads, including one that was 92 pages long and had 175 people posting in it, against the word of the courts.

There is no point in anyone posting there. Threads that took hours of hard work and research are hard deleted. That is pure idiocy. Those threads might be necessary for law enforcement or evidence in a civil case. George doesn't care. Poof they are gone and that ignorant fool keeps no records.

Well, someone who had followed my work on Scam bought this place and asked me in as the first admin. I hesitated and said I would be an okay Mod, but are you sure you want me for an admin. Who could say no to the chance to run a real forum. I immediately asked GlimDropper to join us and he has performed miracles behind the scenes. We invited LRM and EagleOne to join us as we grew. No money changes hands, no scams or scammers have their names *** out and we don't cave to scammers here. Heaven!

Soapboxmom

[Doc Bunkum]

If Vladimir Sviatoslavich really isn't George then we should see George's lying goon patrol Sojustask / Stephanie Haberman being shown the door.

Soapboxmom

Vlad has quite the way with words.

To iamwil:


If you don't like it, leave. You're the one trying to recruit with a sig file and using scam.com to help market your crap, piss off.

[Whip]

Vlad has quite the way with words.

To iamwil:

I find it hard to believe he's the only one.

[ProfHenryHiggins]

Is it just my computer, or is scam.com down?
I'm getting a message about the site using an unsupported or invalid form of compression, something that bewilders me.

[Finix]

Is it just my computer, or is scam.com down?
It works as usual for me.

[Finix]

I am usually accused of being quite long-winded, but I will give it a shot. How I ended up the first admin here is quite a tale.

I along with ten other starry-eyed volunteers signed on as Mods in January 2009. It was totally volunteer. Sojustask had made her grand exit and told off the owner Zachary on his own forum announcement section. NoMoronHere, Bibleman, HopefulCynic (our own GlimDropper and tech guru behind this forum) and others went to work. Much to our horror the forum had not been cared for at all. There were thousands and thousands of posts that were porn, drug ads and spam. We devoted weeks and hundreds of hours to cleaning up that dump. The Hotel Forum went from 60 pages to just 2 for one example.

The forum was finally cleaned up and we had banned the few members that had done nothing but flame and cause complaints. Everything was running smoothly then Mumbles had his meltdown and banned a bunch members that posted in the political forum and began removing pro-MLM posts. We battled him and got Zachary to remove him before he destroyed the place. Things were running wonderfully again and then who should show up but Sojustask.

She decided to come in and take over again. She brought back Mumbles and spent her time undermining and publicly attacking the new Mods who were doing their jobs as instructed by the owner. I was told in writing by said owner to ignore her and do my own thing. He said he didn't know why she came back, but that he had to be loyal to her. We all knew why. Zachary was George Dranichak at the same IP address. The site had never been sold. She had all the dirt on him.

Sojustask would drop in for a short peek maybe once a week, but would cause havoc as she stepped into situations where she had not read the threads and had no clue what was going on. We were always bumping heads with her. It was a miserable situation and the owner never bothered with the place so we were stuck dealing with her meltdowns and public attacks.

Then all hell broke loose when Len Clements was made a Mod. He had stated on forums all over the net that Scam was a cesspool and overrun by trolls and he was determined to bring the place down and get it off of the first page of Google. His goal was to out the anonymous posters. He wrote on Scam that he wanted to out posters and was threatening them. I blew a fuse. I quoted and forwarded all this to Zachary / George and as usual he ignored all of us including Sojustask.

NMH banned Len and sent him packing. George brings him back over Sojustask's head as an admin. Well, we all knew that feisty witch would never stand for it. She made hamburger meat out of him in short order. Always great for a forum to be tangled in a nasty power struggle. The members were in an uproar except for poor Heiney and Chrissy, of course. She put up new rules about not allowing posts trashing Lenny and I hadn't stopped posters from posting them. Only new posters' posts go up for moderation before appearing, so there was no way I could do anything to prevent it. Remeber George always rambled on about how he wanted to stop scammers in their tracks. Clements was not going to honor that. So, I would have enforced the rule once I had seen it and encouraged folks (as I was already doing) to contact the owner privately and express their concerns, but I wasn't given the chance. Even though SJA knew what Lenny's agenda was she was having fun attacking me and undermining Lenny publicly. I would have never done anything to harm that forum that I had loved at that time. She was hell bent on destroying the place and asserting her authority and the owner didn't have the good sense or the man parts to step in. I left in protest after Sojustask banned me for 3 days.

Many members spoke out in my support and demanded Lenny be removed. I knew I couldn't go back. George was a liar and fraud who was only out to make money off of the site and promote his porn crap. Sojustask was just as dishonest and underhanded. That site was never going to be a place that would allow folks to expose scams and truly help others. George was removing threads and posts en mass and had *** numerous common words as they were in the titles of well known scams. Those scams and scammers had threatened or bribed George into taking down very informative and totally legitimate threads.

I went from over 6000 posts to 2000 around that time. I worked for that idiot like a dog for free mind you and I informed him in writing that Tim Darnell had not gotten an injunction and had lost the case against me in Summary Judgment so the judge did NOT want anything removed. Another judge in a case against Darnell and that snake Jack Weinzierl also said flat out I did not need to remove anything. George removed many long threads, including one that was 92 pages long and had 175 people posting in it, against the word of the courts.

There is no point in anyone posting there. Threads that took hours of hard work and research are hard deleted. That is pure idiocy. Those threads might be necessary for law enforcement or evidence in a civil case. George doesn't care. Poof they are gone and that ignorant fool keeps no records.

Well, someone who had followed my work on Scam bought this place and asked me in as the first admin. I hesitated and said I would be an okay Mod, but are you sure you want me for an admin. Who could say no to the chance to run a real forum. I immediately asked GlimDropper to join us and he has performed miracles behind the scenes. We invited LRM and EagleOne to join us as we grew. No money changes hands, no scams or scammers have their names *** out and we don't cave to scammers here. Heaven!

Soapboxmom
Someone should write a comic book about forum dramas and sell it to members.

[ProfHenryHiggins]

It works as usual for me.

Most odd.

I'm getting this



Content Encoding Error













The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an invalid or unsupported form of compression.








* Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.


And I cannot seem to view the page source code, either.

[Doc Bunkum]

Is it just my computer, or is scam.com down?
I'm getting a message about the site using an unsupported or invalid form of compression, something that bewilders me.

Clear your cookies & cache and try again?

[ProfHenryHiggins]

Clear your cookies & cache and try again?

It didn't fix it.

[littleroundman]

Is it just my computer, or is scam.com down?
I'm getting a message about the site using an unsupported or invalid form of compression, something that bewilders me.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scam.jpg

[Whip]

I get that same message using FF. If I use IE, it asks me to save a cookie but goes to the 'diagnose connection' page.

[Soapboxmom]

George Dranichak and Vladimir Sviatoslavich just don't know when they have blown it. Hopeful Cynic / our own GlimDropper, who is listed as a Mod, but was banned by George, has had this place running like clockwork. Sviat is blowing his cool at the spammers that are littering his forum. Updating Vbulletin, which hasn't been done for years on Scam, and installing the right security packages will virtually eliminate that stuff. It is difficult to register here as that keeps the spambots at bay. And, once registered the first 5 posts of a new member that includes any links goes up for moderation. The staff here has almost no clean-up to do. We haven't had a spampede in quite sometime thanks to the very handsome and multi-talented GlimDropper. That dumba$$ George should have hung on to his honest, talented and very hardworking volunteers! And, he might want to revisit the issue of updating that cesspool. :RpS_wink:

Soapboxmom

[Finix]

Most odd.

No, it's not. It's very much in line with my personal experiences with the whole industry - out of step with everyone else and opposite to what it is supposed to be.

[Blue Wolf]

The website was down earlier today, but it's back up . . . for now. The problem, I believe, is that the site becomes overwhelmed with spam every now and then, so Sviat/George/whoever probably shut down the site temporarily, perhaps due to a massive spam attack. Yesterday, there were over 33,000 visitors on the site. (I'm sure most of them were not real people.) And one morning last week, I went there and noticed that there were around 100 posts/threads that were just useless spam. What a mess.

I'm glad this place isn't like that.

[Finix]

Yesterday, there were over 33,000 visitors on the site. (I'm sure most of them were not real people.)
If you are referring to this:


Most users ever online was 34,444, 01-18-2012 at 04:27 PM.

It happens during the database updates when all existing usernames are shown as being online. Whether or not they are real people, it has nothing to do with spammers or spamming. It has to do with how many usernames are duplicate IDs of the same people.

[Blue Wolf]

It happens during the database updates when all existing usernames are shown as being online. Whether or not they are real people, it has nothing to do with spammers or spamming. It has to do with how many usernames are duplicate IDs of the same people.

Well, right now there's about 15,000 users on that site, and there's 209,533 members. I do know that Sviat has banned thousands of names and isp's over at scam, so a lot of those people must have been spammers. But I don't know exactly what's going on over there.

I'm not even 100% sure if Sviat and George are really two people or not. LOL . . . I guess I'll find out the truth eventually.

[Soapboxmom]

I was on there for hours a day moderating from 2009 -2010. The vast majority of users online were spambots. They can easily register there. One could spot them by the IPs from Russia and China, the odd names and the dead giveaway was the porn linked on the homepage or in the signature. George never bothered to update the site's software or do anything. He left it to his free volunteers to do all the work and then stabbed us in the back by allowing Sojustask to come back and harass us and publicly attack us.

In a moment of pure madness the idiot put Len Clements in as an Admin after I forwarded him Len's rants about taking down the cesspool. As many here know I have an alarming habit of archiving juicy stuff. I have Len Clements attacking Scam before that idiot George hired him and the thread includes scammer and liar Broker Jones complaining about the thread about him and his scam Oceanside that Len promptly removed when he became admin. Broker falsely claimed that I and other Scam posters were sending e-mails threatening to rape and kill his wife and daughters. Len sure is quick to hook up with the psycho MLMers out there. Oceanside has sunk like the Titanic and Len will never live down his short reign and permanent ban from the cesspool as he called it:

534

So, it is obvious Goerge Dranichak destroyed his own forum and drove off most of the savvy posters. Between him and Lenny tens of thousands of legitimate posts have been removed. So, there is no point in posting there and watching one's hard work go up in smoke!!!

Soapboxmom

[Soapboxmom]

Even the legions of spambots can't keep those numbers up:536

[Lightbulb]

I do know that Sviat has banned thousands of names and isp's over at scam,

He has? From what I know, the mods have been banning spammers by the hundreds. Sviat has been adding forums, posting recipes and making podcasts. The spammers all showed up when he took down his site, talkhard.com, and redirected the url to scam.com. The only users there were spammers by the thousands, so they all showed up at scam.com. Add to that his "new SEO" campaign and now you have hundreds joining but not adding any worthwhile posts. The only posters there are the same ones that have been there for years.

[Soapboxmom]

What a lying nut!


Originally Posted by sojustask http://www.scam.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?p=1128121#post1128121)
I publically apologized to her for banning her on this forum shortly after I banned her. In reality she was banned a whopping 24 hours. But I'll be damned if I would allow her to fabricate half truths and not call her on them.

George had a brain fart making Len a moderator, much less an admin here. He didn't know who Len was any more than I did, but her screaming and harping and sending a dozen emails an hour, when she is rather high strung in the first place, didn't help matters any. He was not available and he sure has hell didn't want his email box flooded with her hysterics any more than I did.

The forum survived and recovered. No one is perfect, even owners sometimes make mistakes.

I guess she forgets all her personal attacks against him on hers and other forums. Saint Heather lowered herself into her own little cesspool, and she has only herself to point a finger of blame at for why she was permanently blocked and banned here.

Old, old news. She would be wise to let it go already and move on.


Lady Mod

.

Sojustask has zero disease. George Dranichak blew her off as usual as the members raised hell about Clements being made an admin. I sent Zachary / George several e-mails. When he continued to ignore all of us I followed up with an e-mail to George's gohard porn site and a short message on his Facebook page. I do archive everything, so I can prove I wrote a few fact filled e-mails to that idiot George and nothing more.

I was banned by Sojustask for not stopping folks from posting complaints about Len Clements. No posts go up for moderation on that dump. All I could do was come in and clean up when I had time. Sojustask's rant about leaving Lenny alone was in the announcements, but there was no way for me to know she had amended those. I think she wanted the pleasure of personally destroying Len and running him off.

All she accomplished was to demonstrate what a poorly managed circus show Scam was turning into. George wasn't bright enough to actually check out the people he was hiring to run the place. He didn't have the guts to make decisions, so he allowed sojustask to make decisions for him when she in fact spent very little time on the forums and had no idea what was going on. If George really sold the site and is gone then we will know that is fact when the new owner sends Sojustask and her goon patrol packing and brings in his own people and some honest hard working ones at that. Sojustask doesn't do the real work. She pops in to lord over the Mods she percieves as her grunts and takes credit for their hours of labor spent cleaning up the spam daily. Hopefully, Sviat will actually show some appreciation for the few grunts there who do really work and contribute. Perhaps, he will break the mold and run the site in an ethical manner as well.

Who in their right mind hires someone like Clements who had made it his mission to take down that "cesspool" and see that the threads would no longer Google up? Remember the owner here is not in it for the money. We actually are working to fulfill George's stated missions of "stopping scammers in their tracks." That is something that Scam will never be able to do. $$$$ will always get in the way of helping people.

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Soapboxmom

[Finix]

$$$$ will always get in the way of helping people.

It depends on what they need help with. Most people come into the industry looking for $$$$, and that's the only help they need/want.

[Soapboxmom]

Scam.com now has Trivita promoter iamwill as a moderator. Stopping scams in their tracks usually doesn't include putting the promoters of very questionable deals in management positions. They are on the Chat board discussing the deluge of hundreds or thousands of spam posts that must be dealt with constantly. Again, if George / Zachary / Sviat had even the slightest clue they would have the proper software and updates installed that would virtually eliminate that.

Sojustask / Stephanie is in seventh heaven gloating because she thinks she is in charge and is quite hot stuff for running me off. But, as I said, if there really were a new owner then she would not be there. When any company is bought out there are often a lot of heads that roll. The new owner(s) will bring in their own people. And, as she doesn't do any work, nor have any idea what to do in the admin panel or in regard to security that would keep the board running smoothly and spam free, what use is she? She can make wild claims about all the witnesses that will take her side, but the proof of what constitues the truth is all documented. She is a vindictive liar and not an asset to Scam.com in any way as the traffic shows.

If Sviat is going to honor all George's agreements he cannot allow words like water, energy, power and all the rest appear. Those were ******* to protect legions of known scams and crum bum deals. There is now way to rectify the mess that George made. George surrounded himself with liars like Sojustask and known scam promoters like Len Clements and ran off any honest, trustworthy people who wanted to expose scammers and serve the public.

I have looked over the active members / who's online list. That vast majority are not legitimate posters. Is Sviat registering legions and trying to artificially inflate the traffic which has dropped all year? Are there clicks on ads that are not from legitimate users? There are all sorts of strange things going on over there.

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All lies. Nothing but lies. Scam.com is scamming all the members. George faked selling the site before and that lying wench orchestrated the deception. Again!!!!!

What honest decent person would have anything to do with this kind of blatant deception and con???


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Hello???

A scam forum now promoting MLM?

Geez, Lenny would be so proud.

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So while George was busy creating and promoting porn, Sojustask was lording over Scam and destroying the place. And, George, the eternal wimp, has always let her rule over him, insult him and stab him in the back because he hasn't the good sense to stand up to her and send her packing. Does he pay her to create havoc and ill will in his forum? She has been in on all his deceptions and lies and he must be terrified about what she could really spill.

Now, we know what George has been doing the last few months. The little lying weasel was cooking up the fictional Vladimir Sviatoslavich hoping to resuscitate a dying forum. The traffic has been dropping. Now, this Sviat character is schmoozing the MLMers in desperate hopes of building up the traffic again. He might want to look at the stats for Len Clements' site and MLM.com. That tactic is sure to be a loser! The site will never be what he has promoted it as.

Now, that everyone knows he is still at the helm the complaints will deluge him and every scammer will continue to demand he do what he has always done and remove threads about them and / or their companies. The more things change, the more they stay the same. No legitimate poster should bother to post as we know now the posts and threads will continue to be removed without any just cause. The forum is still a bad joke! And, the honest and decent among us won't participate in a cesspool such as that!

Soapboxmom

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Sojustask babbled:

The owner himself banned and blocked her. She sucked up to him on one hand while she was plunging a knife in his back with the other. He didn't take too kindly to it.

I had asked him to allow her to stay, at least as a member. And despite what most people think, though I have his ear, so to speak, I don't always get my way.
The only one sticking a knife in George's back has been her all along. I quoted Len Clements directly and warned Geroge that all he wanted was to shut down scam so no MLMs would find their names on the top pages of Google searches. I warned him that Len Clements was threatening to out Scam.com posters and called the site a cesspool. I warned him that Len Clements had nothing but hatreed and comtempt for the site and had hoodwinked him to get control. The end result was the forum melted into dissent and chaos and he had to ban Clements and *** his name to save the place.

So again, the only one taking George for a ride is Stephanie Haberman. Once again she is covering up for his fake sale of the site even though that will cause much more harm than good. If the owner is a liar, porn spammer and tricking his members, how can he be working to "stop scammers in their tracks?" He is the biggest scammer on Scam. Why would I have sucked up to a guy who paid me nothing while I spent hours a day cleaning up spam on his forum? Why would I suck up to a guy who was lying about the intent and purpose of the forum when my only interest was exposing scams and uneconomic schemes. Ridiculous!

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Ol' smilin' George himself...

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Half a million bucks from that site?

Not bad.

[Doc Bunkum]

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[Soapboxmom]

George has a real racket going. He claims:

This is the best whistleblower forum to expose scams, rip offs, & scammers. Dont get scammed, stick with scam.com and register for a FREE account to post on our message board. True free speech and power to the people!


In reality it should read we cater to scammers. There was a very informative thread on Bella Homes. Many serious concerns were raised and it was quite apparent that deal could harm many desperate homeowners. George per his usual mode of operation removes the thread and then sings Bella's praises and accepts a nice chunk of change to feature ads for this very questionable deal. Luckily, I was able, with the help of a birdy who saw how valuable information was, to archive the thread and post it here and really work to expose that bum deal.

http://www.realscam.com/f15/bella-homes-george-dranichak-scam-com-sviat-vladimir-sviatoslavich-953/

Another glaring example of caving to scammers in the De Rothschild and Jordan Serlin gang. I was repeatedly threatened, but did not remove the thread. I researched and posted volumes of facts and when the threats became obvious attempts at intimidation based on complete lies and nonsense I stood my ground and published the e-mails and attorneys letters because it was the right thing to do.

http://www.realscam.com/f12/charles-gr-goire-de-rothschild-jordan-serlin-gdr-priv-e-inc-conundrum-capital-848/

(http://www.realscam.com/f12/charles-gr-goire-de-rothschild-jordan-serlin-gdr-priv-e-inc-conundrum-capital-848/)Now, I am not suggesting that post and threads should never be removed. We run this site responsibly. Death threats would be soft deleted and archived for authorities and not left up as Sojustask elected to do. Personal attacks and garbage threads are always removed here. Any thread that is based on verifiably false statements of fact will be edited or removed as prudent. We will not, however, allow obvious scams and scammers to intimidate us. We will not remove threads and place up advertisements for questionable deals.

George needs to get it through his thick head that he can truly advocate for the public as we do and expose scams or he can make money. He can't do both. So, it is time to quit insulting the intelligence of the surfing public and call Scam what it is. Quatloos.com and Realscam expose scams and are not here for the purpose of making money. Scam should stick with its political forum and discussion forums and call them exactly that and advertise away without trying to deceive readers into thinking it is in any way a forum to expose scams, protect the public or based on a belief in free speech. Scam revolves around the mighty dollar.

Constantly playing games and trying to deceive the members will scare off the savvy and decent people. And, having drama queen liars in charge like Sojustask who do everything they can to cause chaos and problems will just drive more people away. It is hard to keep active posters, especially the well-educated ones who have something worthwhile to contribute, in that atmosphere. Who wants to deal with liars and vindictive people who are obviously on a power trip and have spent their time bad mouthing the owner and complaining publicly about the many problems on the forum. Who wants to watch the next Ohein56 meltdown with obscene terms one needs the Urban Dictionary to understand? Time for Scam to quit scamming the public.

Soapboxmom



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[Soapboxmom]

Scam.com is just George's advertising service. This is a real gem:


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'TheLegacy' brings to the table a wealth of knowledge for GuerillaTraffic's affiliates in marketing, traffic, promotions, and design as well as a deep network of high profile clients. Robert is a Webmasters dream and can provide highly customizable service and a complete turnkey solution for what your members are demanding.

Robert is in much demand for his insights and articles written for many adult resource sources including YNOT where Robert serves as a board moderator. He also has been included as one of the few sought after mentors of Industry Elite.com's website along with a selected group of notable industry leaders in Rochard's Bunny Ranch. His presence adds a new dimension to Guerilla Traffic and we welcome him to our team of professionals.

GUERILLATRAFFIC.COM's offerings include a slew of hardcore and softcore pay sites including many sought after niches, valuable resources such as free content, POTD, hosted TGPs, and even custom TGPs and banners (if you ask nicely!). The GuerillaTraffic program is constantly growing with 118 websites and growing to advertise. Additionally, the program offers up to $40 payouts as well as the option for exit free links. GuerillaTraffic.com is constantly growing too… the program strives to constantly adapt and change by adding new sites, TGP's, content and any other tools to help their affiliates make money!

"Our philosophy is simple. We provide the content and bandwidth... you provide the traffic!," said Robert Warren, GuerillaTraffic's newest sales and marketing rep. Robert is an 8-year veteran in marketing serving the gay and straight market. "Each product is designed for the variety of tastes your members are searching for. Knowing that you are part of the "Guerilla" community will encourage growth and minimize cancellations. That is why in addition to the assistance of our marketing department GuerillaTraffic is assuredly "Traffic That Pays".

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After being outed as George's alter ego Vlad is back posting on Facebook:






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Just a little ironic that a very prolific and listed porn spammer has the nerve to complain about spammers on Scam. :loser:

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George is such a fraud. Talkhard was his crap that bombed years ago. Talkhard will go down the commode again no doubt. Participating in Scam is supporting this fraudulent businessman and liar. It is time for him and his multiple personalities to crawl under that rock.

Soapboxmom

[Soapboxmom]

Apparently our lying porn spammer George Dranichak has delusions of granduer and fancies himself a prince and saint, thus the new persona Vladimir Sviatoslavich:

Kievan Rus Database (Prince: Vladimir Sviatoslavich (the Great)) (http://www.unc.edu/~smyre/rus/Prince_Vladimir_Sviatoslavich_Xthe_GreatX.html)

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Soapboxmom

[wserra]

You guys are gonna get a kick out of this one.

Dranichak (through his latest sock-puppet admin "Sviat") wants to start an electronic chain letter (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=150111) on the scam.com board itself. No, I am not kidding you. Y'know, "small money, maybe paypal...$1 or 2". For what? Well, for nothing. Just "where people make money".

It's hard to know where to start. Other than by archiving the thread, which I think is unlikely to stick around.

[Soapboxmom]

You guys are gonna get a kick out of this one.

Dranichak (through his latest sock-puppet admin "Sviat") wants to start an electronic chain letter (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=150111) on the scam.com board itself. No, I am not kidding you. Y'know, "small money, maybe paypal...$1 or 2". For what? Well, for nothing. Just "where people make money".

It's hard to know where to start. Other than by archiving the thread, which I think is unlikely to stick around.
Dranichak is like the turd that just won't flush. Now, he seems to desire to put his well recognized spamming techniques to work promoting an MLM of which he will be the founder and rep at the apex of the pyramid. Yikes!!!! His desperation is showing! Humorously, his moderators are bickering amongst themselves. Mumbles knows full well that MLMs are scams, but he is surrounded by MLM promoting idiots on all sides and the Dranichak character who is sufferig a most dreadful case of Multiple Posting Personality Disorder. It just doesn't get much funnier than this!

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Soapboxmom

[wserra]

Strange as it may seem, SBM, I think you've actually given the guy too much credit.

He writes, "Let's start a MLM thing on scam.com where people make money.... Let's do a test run, small money, maybe paypal...$1 or 2".

What in the world could he offer that costs $1 or $2? Hell, shipping would cost more than that. I can think of one MLM that has any product in that range - the cheapest of Send Out Cards. As we know, most MLMs are of the $100/month jungle juice or $8/liter water variety.

No, while he writes "MLM", I think it overwhelmingly likely that he is talking about a simple chain letter. Hence the "software" to move everyone up one place as the suckers get in on the bottom. He would deny it, of course, once he realizes how stupid it is.

If he realizes.

[littleroundman]

One gets the impression Mr Sviat doesn't make the distinction between "MLM the theory" and "MLM as it's done in the real world" and concentrates more on the "multi level" than he does the "marketing"

[Whip]

I don't understand why he suddenly is taking an interest and posting after all these years. Seems he's been following the talk gold/mmg crowd and wants a piece of the action.

[Soapboxmom]

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Spam, spam, green eggs and spam. George is too stupid to see he ran off the mods he had that actually worked and obviously is not the brilliant webmaster he claims to be as he has not updated and added necessary software in years. As I have pointed out numerous times, the majority of Scam's traffic is not potential customers, but spambots and spammers. Why bother advertising to them and a few MLM failures?

Soapboxmom

[Soapboxmom]

One would think if George and Stephanie had two working brain cells between the two of them they would have removed this:


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Re: Sorry about my multiple logins guys
I have only slightly looked over the suggestions. I will be cutting and pasting them all next week and trying to figure it out one by one. Much appreciated, just have pressing things in the works that take priority. Keep it on the thread and not in PMplease.

Been in wordpress plugin hell and have three radio shows to edit and piece together. That stupid C * M attachment thing wasted a day of mine. Its been 3 years since I used it and wow the usess are limitless. I officially have insomnia now.

George is in NY now here at my townhouse finishing up his contract with us as a consultant. For the record he never owned the site, was just the marketer and hates the backlash this site did to himself and his family from all the scammers out there. He's been the most helpful and funniest guy I ever met. There's a million moving peices to this site and he truly wants only the best for me and my crew. If calling him a friend hurts me here, so be it, he's a straight up man. I'll have him post a final farewell and hide from all the shrapnal.



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George is in NY now here at my townhouse finishing up his contract with us as a consultant. For the record he never owned the site, was just the marketer and hates the backlash this site did to himself and his family from all the scammers out there. He's been the most helpful and funniest guy I ever met. There's a million moving peices to this site and he truly wants only the best for me and my crew. If calling him a friend hurts me here, so be it, he's a straight up man. I'll have him post a final farewell and hide from all the shrapnal.




If you can ever figure out why, as an Admin I couldn't access the controls I was supposed to be able to access in order to actually help as an admin, that would be a good thing.

I've been calling George a friend for 7 years. It hasn't hurt me and shrapnal dodging is kind of fun!


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As their latest deceit has been outed why leave up the evidence of their complicity? Did Stephanie really think they could pull of that con a second time. How seedy and dishonest can she be? Vladimir Sviatoslavich / Sviat is George Dranichak as the cell phone from Farmington NY on the Facebook postings proves:

http://www.realscam.com/f22/scam-com-38/index5.html#post15193

George's stupidity and arrogance knows no bounds. Jack Weinzierl sang his own praises under 9 different IDs on Scam and now we have George lavishing himself with praise. And, I know for a fact George owned the site due to legal action that involved postings on Scam. The public that is being scammed by George should see him and that site bid farewell to be sure!

Soapboxmom

[Soapboxmom]

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Why aren't the remaining scambusters at Scam researching George Dranichak / Vladimir Sviatoslavich????? That could keep the forum hopping for years to come!

Soapboxmom

[Doc Bunkum]

Never a dull moment at that site.

Last week Chris Doyle got banned for the umpteenth time, as well as Skeptical Al and, believe it or not, Lenny Clements - again!

I missed how all that went down. I had been squabbling with FST36, Lenny Clement's pseudonym on the forum since George banned him following that kerfuffle as moderator. I logged off, went to bed, then noticed all these "banned" signs when I checked in the next day.

So I asked someone that had been logged on the time what was up.

The way this person remembered it was as follows:


You're testing me here. My memory of this is foggy because it all happened so fast.

Lenny was posting under a different screen name. Started with an F with a couple of numbers too.
Evilzoe was posting and saying how she was trying to improve the MLM forum and that the owner was wanting a change so that new members could gather info about MLM. Lenny posting under his aka started posting how someone had tried to change the forum for the better and just ended up getting fired, canned (whatever words he used to describe his ordeal) this seemed to clue others into knowing this was Lenny. I then noticed mumbles must have made Len****** a members becasue his name appeared down at the bottom of the forum and it showed he had just registered. Then Chris was defending what Lenny was saying because Mumbles was telling Lenny to get lost. Later I noticed these posts deleted and I saw that Len****** did log on again under the Len ****** screen name and it showed he was banned. So I figure Mumbles deleted his aka, made him a member using his real name and that way Mumbles knew when he logged on.

I am not remembering what Chris said, if you had of asked me a couple of days ago I would have remembered.

So basically Lenny forgot who he was logged on as and started his pity party as FST36! :loser:

Gee, why am I not surprised.

Too funny!

[Soapboxmom]

An innocent young girl had the misfortune to meet up with George Dranichak on her 21st birthday.

Nicole "Nyki" Kish Wrongfully Convicted? George Dranichak / Vladimir Sviatoslavich of Scam.com Key Witness (http://www.realscam.com/f16/nicole-nyki-kish-wrongfully-convicted-george-dranichak-vladimir-sviatoslavich-scam-com-key-witness-1063)

I hope she will appeal and that George Dranichak will face the music for the tragedy that happened that he may have well provoked with his demands for oral sex and degrading comments to those very young women. He and the many others who know of his businesses and penchant for lying all need to be deposed and the truth brought to light. Stephanie Haberman certainly picked very questionable character to befriend and valiantly defend. I wonder how she would feel if he had spoken to one of her daughters the way he did the poor young girls in this case?

Soapboxmom

[Soapboxmom]

Never a dull moment at that site.

Last week Chris Doyle got banned for the umpteenth time, as well as Skeptical Al and, believe it or not, Lenny Clements - again!

I missed how all that went down. I had been squabbling with FST36, Lenny Clement's pseudonym on the forum since George banned him following that kerfuffle as moderator. I logged off, went to bed, then noticed all these "banned" signs when I checked in the next day.

So I asked someone that had been logged on the time what was up.

The way this person remembered it was as follows:



So basically Lenny forgot who he was logged on as and started his pity party as FST36! :loser:

Gee, why am I not surprised.

Too funny!
Stephanie Haberman / Sojustask thinks it is really something that folks still post there. Well, obviously no one who has an IQ exceeding normal shoe size takes that place seriously. It is amusing to bait Lenny and his brilliant MLM defenders, Chris and Ohein56. Folks have to find some kind of free entertainment! The rest of the traffic is spambots and spammers. The site can never turned into a worthwhile discussion site with any intellectually stimulating conversation. Liar and pron spammer Dranichak let the place degenerate into a cesspool and it is never going to change with his new persona Vladimir outed.

Soapboxmom

[Soapboxmom]

George Dranichak was a sleazebag pimp with 30 girls in his "steed" he brags:

http://www.realscam.com/f8/guerillatraffic-com-george-dranichak-porn-affiliate-opportunity-new-persona-sviat-vladimir-sviatoslavich-127/index3.html#post15676

Dranichak / Sviatoslavich fake anti scam site needs to be shut down!

Soapboxmom

[Whip]

Never a dull moment at that site.

Last week Chris Doyle got banned for the umpteenth time, as well as Skeptical Al and, believe it or not, Lenny Clements - again!

I missed how all that went down. I had been squabbling with FST36, Lenny Clement's pseudonym on the forum since George banned him following that kerfuffle as moderator. I logged off, went to bed, then noticed all these "banned" signs when I checked in the next day.

So I asked someone that had been logged on the time what was up.

The way this person remembered it was as follows:



So basically Lenny forgot who he was logged on as and started his pity party as FST36! :loser:

Gee, why am I not surprised.

Too funny!

here ya go (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=149506)
who is this evil zoe clown? sounds like she's after sojust's position.


EvilZoe,

Someone already tried to do that about a year ago. The scumbags who post anonymously and just get off on personally attacking people, which are most of the posters at least in the MLM/Pyramid scheme forum, threw a giant hissey fit and not only got him fired as an admin, but permanently banned. Just for trying to clean up this board and make it more civil and educational.

Even most of the moderators rejected his attempts to clean up the forum. What does that tell you?

[Finix]

Dranichak / Sviatoslavich fake anti scam site needs to be shut down!
Please don't shut them down? Scam.com is the best stress toy I've seen in ages! So what it's not anti-scam? It's fun. Not every forum online needs to be anti-scam.

[Soapboxmom]

I hear Dranichak has been working overtime on Scam so no links to this site will work. So much for
This is the best whistleblower forum to expose scams, rip offs, & scammers. Dont get scammed, stick with scam.com and register for a FREE account to post on our message board. True free speech and power to the people! Folks have to link threads over here because George has nuked any good ones on that sorry site. Now they put up a live link and instruct the SCam readers to inset real after the www. but before the word scam. LOL!!!!!!

:computer_smash:

He wouldn't want the flunkies still left there to figure out he has flooded the net with websites by a George Dranichak that probably doesn't exist. I would love to be in court when discovery is complete on that devious attempt to bury the truthful facts about him on the web. Him on the stand explaining his work as a pimp and porn promoter that is now trying to hide his past would be something to witness. There ain't no rug big enough to sweep all that under!

http://www.realscam.com/f8/guerillatraffic-com-george-dranichak-porn-affiliate-opportunity-new-persona-sviat-vladimir-sviatoslavich-127/index3.html#post15952

Soapboxmom

[Doc Bunkum]

He wouldn't want the flunkies still left there to figure out he has flooded the net with websites by a George Dranichak that probably doesn't exist. I would love to be in court when discovery is complete on that devious attempt to bury the truthful facts about him on the web. Him on the stand explaining his work as a pimp and porn promoter that is now trying to hide his past would be something to witness. There ain't no rug big enough to sweep all that under!


Soapboxmom

And guess who George has to thank for starting this whole mess and exposing him in the first place?

Wonder if Lenny is on his Christmas card list?

[littleroundman]

With friends like Lenny da Lip, who needs enemies ??

[Soapboxmom]

And guess who George has to thank for starting this whole mess and exposing him in the first place?

Wonder if Lenny is on his Christmas card list?
Now, we should give full credit where it is due. Sojustask / Stephanie Haberman stabbed George's pick (Lenny) in the back and did everything she could to sabotage him. Her handling of that disaster really reflected very badly on George Dranichak. Then she continued her habitual bad mouthing of George and the not so subtle put downs about his just being a man. She twisted the knife in Dranichak's back on numerous occassions and made a career of lying to him and everyone else. Not to mention, she was advising people on methods for blocking the ads on Scam so people wouldn't see them and could not click on them. Doesn't that brainless broad realize he is trying to make money off of the site and she is totally sabotaging his efforts?

George must be absolutely desperate to hide his work as a pimp, porn producer and porn spammer and Stephanie, who can't resist sparring with me keeps bringing it up and making him look like the moron he is. George was the one bragging about his steed. Sojustask and EvilZoe are so dense they came to the conclusion that those were my words, when I was merely quoting their sleazbag owner. Stephanie Haberman / Sojustask has done much more damage to George than Lenny ever managed. I wonder how much longer Sojustask will be on his Christmas card list??? She isn't bright enough to shut her trap, much less to hard delete all the threads that out Zachary as being none other than liar George Dranichak who still owns the site and is now masquerading as Vladimir Sviatoslavich and making an even bigger fool out of himself. Delusions of being a Russian prince???

Soapboxmom

[Doc Bunkum]

CD's version of the events:


As far as I can remember, there was only one mod who got rid of troll posts regularly and that was Len C. They soon got rid of him.

Suppose I should ask him who "they" are.

[littleroundman]

CD's version of the events:



Suppose I should ask him who "they" are.

As if the reason "they" got rid of Lenny was because he deleted troll posts.

R--I--G--H--T, sure that's why they were forced into acting.

"Clements deleted too many troll posts"..................simply amazing Chris Doyle spin doctoring in action.

How about: "His behaviour was so embarrassingly out of control, even couldn't-give-a-damn-about-the-forum George Dranichak was forced to act"

[Doc Bunkum]

Now, we should give full credit where it is due. Sojustask / Stephanie Haberman stabbed George's pick (Lenny) in the back and did everything she could to sabotage him.

Soapboxmom

Makes sense to me.

She's got her urine spread all around that forum

Didn't like Lenny encroaching on her territory.

That, and the fact "His behaviour was so embarrassingly out of control, even couldn't-give-a-damn-about-the-forum George Dranichak was forced to act"
.

[Blue Wolf]

So, it looks like George Dranichak really is Vladimir Sviatoslavich. But I don't understand why he's pretending to be somebody else.

Is there really some logical reason for this? I thought at first that he had really sold the site to somebody else. What a liar.

How much is scam worth, anyway? I remember that Stephanie (Sojustask) once said (http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=640386&postcount=14)that George/Sviat told somebody it was worth a half-million dollars. I wonder where he got that figure from.

Is scam really worth a half-million dollars? Or was that just another one of his lies?

[Soapboxmom]

So, it looks like George Dranichak really is Vladimir Sviatoslavich. But I don't understand why he's pretending to be somebody else.

Is there really some logical reason for this? I thought at first that he had really sold the site to somebody else. What a liar.

How much is scam worth, anyway? I remember that Stephanie (Sojustask) once said (http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=640386&postcount=14)that George/Sviat told somebody it was worth a half-million dollars. I wonder where he got that figure from.

Is scam really worth a half-million dollars? Or was that just another one of his lies?
George claimed that Scam ran in the red and that he was just hanging on to his proudest accomplishment. That is BS I would imagine just as all his talk of the thousands of spam posts he claimed Len Clements had removed. A site with that much traffic is worth some money. The problem he has is that much of the traffic is spammers and spam bots and not folks that will click on the ads. He refuses to update the software, so there is little security and he can't keep the spam and bots off of the site. Notice our traffic is building nicely, but spam is almost non-existent here.




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George was running Guerilla Traffic out of Canada. The site now has no sales reps listed where there used to be a dedicated handful. It appears he left Canada because of the horrifying legal mess he is tangled in there. A young woman that he demanded oral sex from and viciously attacked verbally after a hard night's drinking is in prison for killing George's friend and co-worker from Guerilla Traffic. This young woman deserves a new trial as there is strong evidence the kids involved in thefight were provoked and that she is in fact innocent.

http://www.realscam.com/f16/nicole-nyki-kish-wrongfully-convicted-george-dranichak-vladimir-sviatoslavich-scam-com-key-witness-1063/

So, in a nutshell George's personal life and business are a shambles and he may well be fantasizing that he can turn Scam around, hide behind the persona of the Russian Prince Valdimir Sviatoslavich and start making his living off of Scam.com. So, he could make a nice sum off of selling it, but Scam.com might be most of what is left of his porn production and spamming empire at this juncture. George's lies have cost him dearly.

Soapboxmom

[Finix]

You can shut them down now, if you want. I'm bored with them.

[nomaxim]

You can shut them down now, if you want. I'm bored with them.
Well, you have still managed 7 posts there today and it is still rather early in the day.

[Finix]

Well, you have still managed 7 posts there today and it is still rather early in the day.
So what? It doesn't mean anything. I posted here to withdraw my previous polite request to the admin of this forum to not shut down scam.com . I stand by the withdrawal of the previous request.

Why do you care anyways? It's not like I have any say in what is going to happen. All I can do is make a request and then withdraw it.

[Soapboxmom]

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Banning Hotmail Emails For New Members
Due to the spam bots and insane amounts of time and frustration for myself and my moderators,
scam.com is banning hotmail email addresses.

Existing members please Private Message me if you can't post anymore, or email me scamcomwebmaster @ gmail.com
I am hoping this only affects new spam-bot members and not existing members.

This will cut down more on the crap posting here. Sorry and hope this makes all our lives a little easier.




George is such a buffoon. Why doesn't he upgrade his software and hire some real Mods???

[Soapboxmom]

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A site soliciting Chinese knock-offs and fakes. George is scamming his forum members once again. What a great follow-up to his promotion of the closed down mortgage scam Bella Homes. A George Dranichak endorsment is the biggest red flag out there!!!! Thank goodness we are still scam ad free!


Soapboxmom

[scamdotcom]

You guys are fuicking with the wrong bull now. New owner and you dragging me into this old **** you have no idea the can of **** you opened you weak ass excuse of a cloned website.
**** you

[Soapboxmom]

My aren't you charming! As I said on the other thread where you had your first meltdown, if there is anything that is a false statement of fact on here send us the documentation to substantiate your claim and we will edit, retract, apologize or remove things as necessary and prudent. Threats and nasty meltdowns will not get the response you desire. If you are in fact a new owner, you bought Scam with all its colorful history. That history is archived on Quatloos and JREF as well. It is a little late to decide you don't like the controversy. Remember that old saying about staying out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat?

We are nothing like Scam. We do not advertise at this time. We do not cater to scammers. We do not remove truthful threads that are necessary to warn and inform the public. We do not have staff like Sojustask that are dishonest and unappreciative of those that volunteer. Don't ever compare us to that site. The people here truly work to serve others and advocate for scam victims. We are not making a penny for our work here.

Now, would you care to tell us what sent you into this rage? What brought this on today?

Soapboxmom

[Whip]

I'll guess seeing his lie exposed about being a pulitzer prize winner for starters. lol. Is there a message board lemon law?

[Soapboxmom]

I am all ears. Do tell us why Vladimir was posting on Facebook from George Dranichak's town in NY state. That would clear a lot of things up now wouldn't it?

http://www.realscam.com/f22/scam-com-george-dranichak-vladimir-sviatoslavich-sojustask-stephanie-haberman-38/index5.html#post15193

And, why is Sviat's picture on Zachary's profile here:

http://www.realscam.com/f15/bella-homes-george-dranichak-scam-com-sviat-vladimir-sviatoslavich-953/

Inquiring minds do want to know! Thanks!

Soapboxmom

[Soapboxmom]

I'll guess seeing his lie exposed about being a pulitzer prize winner for starters. lol. Is there a message board lemon law?

Maybe its 3 strikes and you are out!!!!

[Soapboxmom]

The poor boy, if it is the owner of Scam, is just so exhausted from being overworked! LOL!!! If only he had some decent help, upgraded software and a brain!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOKK8mAkiUI


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Hey, you guys...
I was wondering if you'd do me a favor. This forum gets so much activity that I can't possibly read every single thread constantly and catch all the spam posts.

If you happen upon one while you're reading and responding, would you right click on the number of the post in the right hand corner, copy the link address, and then PM it to me or another mod so we can delete them?

I'd appreciate it very much as I don't get the messages from the 'report' buttons.

You don't HAVE to do anything, mind you, but I don't want to miss any spambot activity that might clutter up your threads.

Thanks. http://www.scam.com/images/smilies/rain.gif






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Re: Hey, you guys...
Zoe I don't know if its you soft deleting threads.

Permanently delete, ban people for life, and throw me ips in a PM one per line. I did around 30 people this morning, they post the same crap....watch some football game or cialis crap.

Its like Terminator...us against the robots.

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http://www.scam.com/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 02-25-2012, 09:17 PM

[Whip]

Maybe its 3 strikes and you are out!!!!

The meltdowns certainly are eerily similar to the classic clements meltdowns.

[Soapboxmom]

Scam.com

Media/News/Publishing

Basic Information



Founded
2011


About
The official fan page for the awesome forum, scam.com




Mission
To expose the hypocracies in the world.


Awards
Pulitzer Prize for Journalism 2011 -Joke




Phone
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Email
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Website
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The individual running this Facebook page is using the same e-mail as our very hostile new member. Someone should point out to this chap that public meltdowns are not in the least attractive and no legitimate outfit does business that way. If scam is going down the toilet and generating very little income that should be no surprise. It has always been overrun with spambots, scammers and mindless idiots posting. A few good souls still brave that cesspool in an effort to continue to warn and inform the public but they are few and far between, and there is little real traffic there. The forum software is old and the settings are such that it shows readers for hours and hours after they have dropped off so the numbers are exponentially and artificially inflated. And, one can read the who's online list and see many of the names are bots and not legitimate users. George's lack of involvement and disinterest in the site has left it a hopeless mess. The tens of thousands of bogus registrations over the years would be nearly impossible to clean up now and unpaid volunteers certainly aren't going to do it. He would never give anyone who wanted to help admin privileges so they could do anything to rectify the disaster. That dump just needs to be shut down!


Soapboxmom

[Soapboxmom]

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Vladimir Sviatoslavich


Marketing at Scam.com (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Scamcom/138112836292886)Studied Law at University of Montenegro (https://www.facebook.com/pages/University-of-Montenegro/107546352601576)Lives in Belgrade, Serbia (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Belgrade-Serbia/109920975697736)From Belgrade, Serbia (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Belgrade-Serbia/109920975697736)Knows Serbian, English, Russian, Spanish, Slovak

This profile is tied to the Scam.com profile on Facebook which is tied to the charming poster who melted down here. That individual is posting from NY state and not Serbia!

[Soapboxmom]

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Starting a MLM or Pyramid On Scam.com
I started a thread before about this.

What if I started a Pyramid program or MLM and guaranteed everyone would make money?

MLM is like UFOS and Spaceships......sooo many people believe, so many people say that it works, yet its a never ending debate and fight.

There HAS to be a legit way to make MLM work. I'll set it up and guarantee the whole thing. Obviously I have the most to lose because scam.com has a huge target on her back.

If scam.com cuts out all the scams and everyone makes money...what's wrong with it? Amway's making millions maybe billions legally......

Who is on board!?


What a complete moron. Has he looked at how an MLM is built?:
http://www.realscam.com/f9/why-do-they-call-them-pyramid-schemes-1173/
MLM is a math game that requires that one has passed elementary school level math to comprehend it. In MLM is mathematically impossible for everyone to make money. By design 97%+ must lose to pay the representatives higher on the pyramid. MLMs expand exponentially. Scam.com does have a huge target on its back and that cesspool needs to be shut down. The biggest scammer on there is the fruitcake owner. Better make sure he has millions in a special fund to reimburse the mathematically guaranteed losers in his scam before getting involved.

Amway the company makes money off of the clueless legions of reps that pay in. But, the company making money is in no way related to the success of the representatives. 97% are losing money and far more than that are losing if we include the forced purchases necessary to participate in the payplan. Sheesh!

Soapboxmom

[Soapboxmom]

The downward trend continues:
702

[littleroundman]

I see someone's figured out a way to deal with the declining numbers.

Fudge the figures:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/fudge.jpg

s-u-u-u-u-u-r-e there are that many viewing.

No wonder MrSviat is p****d off if he bought the forum thinking those numbers were accurate.

[Soapboxmom]

Scam is in total chaos and the mods don't understand what to do. Her royal majesty, sojustask, is no longer throwing her weight around and Vlad claims he is in charge, but obviously can't run the thing. Who in their right mind would ask a question like this publicly?:


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Let's Have A Chat
Okay, I know I pissed some of you off today. Some of you have pissed me and a few others off, as well.

We need to figure out how we can coexist here while still maintaining what we each enjoy.

Can we agree to have SOME threads for civil discussion and let others be free-for-alls? The best of BOTH worlds?

I'd like to get to know people a little better on different grounds than just hateful ones. Isn't there anyone else here that wants that, too?

I hope we can have some earnest discussion on this topic.

[ProfHenryHiggins]

That question started out in the Political forum there, if I'm not mistaken, which has always been one of the more heated ones.
I rarely speak up in that arena, myself.

[Soapboxmom]

That question started out in the Political forum there, if I'm not mistaken, which has always been one of the more heated ones.
I rarely speak up in that arena, myself.
Now, you know why we don't have a political forum here. I was especially gagged by the picture of the man in a red teddy and heels making it with a Suburban's tailpipe I had to zap there. We have civilization here!

[littleroundman]

Damn,

does this mean I have to go searching for the screenshots of Sviats' now deleted thread in the "chat here" subforum where he started off extolling the virtues of a young singer of his acquaintance, then launched into one of his "expletives-not-deleted" tirades and then had to apologize for posting while drunk ??

[Soapboxmom]

719

Vladigeorge seems to have a little.....well make that gargantuan problem with spambots. There are tens of thousands of them registered and no hope of getting that disaster under control. The only cure might be to literally start that dump from scratch again. George refusing to upgrade the software for years on end has doomed that place. He and his lying wench Sojustask so neglected the place it is far beyond help.

Watching Vladimir Sviatoslavich valiantly defending George is hilarious. When is he going to sue George for misrepresenting the site he sold him (assuming this isn't another case of George's multi-posting personality disorder of course)??? From Vlad's charming meltdowns on here it seems George neglected to share a few things with him. I hope George, the x-rated mouth, didn't take Vlad bar hopping in Canada. Demanding oral sex and making obscene remarks to young ladies on the street certainly isn't very businesslike. George sure is a great guy and all. This is a whole new definition to anti-scam site!

Soapboxmom

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scamtrouble.jpg

[Soapboxmom]

LRM, a picture is worth a thousand words, or is that a thousand spammers!:RpS_flapper:

[littleroundman]

LRM, a picture is worth a thousand words, or is that a thousands spammers!:RpS_flapper:

Every forum expects and gets spammers, it's par for the course.

BUT, a whole page of them ???

Nah, someone either doesn't care or is asleep at the wheel.

[Soapboxmom]

Vladigeorge is a class A jerk:


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So long scam.com members
Have decided to leave the forum after being
here for about 4 years off and on

Why am I leaving?

Several reasons:

The quality of posts has gone to hell.
It's basically turned into a circle jerk of a few
members hurling insults back and forth at each other
in a very juvenile, immature manner.
I suppose the was always the case but
lately it's turned into a cesspool of posts
that are nothing but attack posts on
other members.
You have moderators who are
in here engaging in this regularly now also.
Even calling out other members which
was once not allowed but now seems to
be permissible.

Back and forth banter and jabs are one thing
but this forum seems to have deteriorated into
one side attacking and trying to destroy the other
side with malicious malice.

This forum was fun when it was a place to vent
the days political news and discuss topics with other
members. And I appreciated the forum for what
it was then.
I just don't want to continue to post and be associated
with a site that seems to be going in the wrong direction.

There are a few of you who I will keep in contact
with and might even see you over at another forum.

Things here have been going downhill for some time
and I should have probably left then but found myself
returning here out of habit, I guess.

I guess it boils down to not being able to rationally
justify spending time here posting with so little in return.
And especially due to what I have seen as the increasing
petty and vile posts that some members here spew
at others they disagree with.
Jabs are one thing, I have done it myself, but trolling
and spewing nothing but name calling and garbage is
another.

If the intent is to drive veteran posters and members
away, it is working.

I bid farewell.
-R6

-Admin- can go ahead and close down this
account if they desire.





04-11-2012, 07:46 AM





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Re: So long scam.com members
"malicious malice"

Don't let the door hit you in the ass.
We're all having fun here, grow a set buddy.






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Re: So long scam.com members
This is a message board. Everyone shizs on everyone. The more personal and vile someone gets shows the lower iq they typically have.





04-11-2012, 08:22 AM





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i did a song for you
To show you how much I appreciate your poetic words of departure, I made a song for you. God Speed And Bless and don't let the door hit you in the ass you little girl.

Here's the lyrics:

I'm sorry rev0lver
its gone all to hell
I bid you farewell
back and forth banter
back and forth banter
jabbing
spewing
malicious malice
circle jerks
getting nothing in return
im sorry rev0lver
im so sorry
circle jerks



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Re: So long scam.com members
For the record I bought this cancerous board because of the spice. But what I hate the most about it is what I love about it. I love the contrast, I am above the conservative rhetoric. Sometimes I start some shi-t, yeah but I know the people I have waiting in the foxholes to pounce on me. I like it, I have nothing to hide. Revol, these guys are inadiquate bullys....don't leave. You are only giving them more power. And I agree with you its nonsense here, but I'm in deep its my job, and I appreciate a good pitch. At 4am I watch your shamwow infomercials and I truly respect the craft of bullshiz. I love the rage Haniity and Rush Limbaugh put into me. Don't give up buddy, just f'in with you





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Re: So long scam.com members
Enough of this crap. Good bye, good luck, hasta la vista. God Bless. I won't dragged into the old owners on my own board, when I have to deal with that nonsense elsewhere.

This maybe the 2nd or 3rd thread I closed. I'm moving it to chat too, not on topic.



__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _
Soon he will be there by himself with only the spambots! He is just as self-centered and foul-mouthed as Dranichak was in the day.

[Whip]

That's because that's who it is. He ain't fooling anyone. And I guess his complaints are invalid (which we already knew) because he's admitting the place is a shithole but he loves it. funny hoe revolver has the same complaints that were posted here but he takes no issue with it (though I'm sure they'll be deleted soon)

[Soapboxmom]

The desperation recruiting tactics are really classy:




04-15-2012, 03:02 PM




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See No Evil
Ever been around people that never see the injustices in the world or are too chicken to stand up for what they believe in ? They aren't welcome at scam.com . You gotta fight for your rights! Viva el revolution! We are looking for crazy strong minded genius maniacs to argue, debate, and solve the world's problems. Register here, become a member and join this insane community......if you dare!

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Sviat or Vladigeorge is posting like crazy begging people to sign up. Enough have been scammed and abused by that site and its ilk. It should be shut down as it is hopelessly overrun with spammers and the management is dishonest and unresponsive.

Sviat is sure quick to remove things if money is involved. Bella Homes, for instance, had no trouble getting the truthful threads about their obvious scam removed with the incentive of advertising dollars. They were, in fact, shut down right after Vladigeorge did his dirty deed. The only thing he stands up for is $$$$$$$. Why line the pockets of this goon???

Sviat the foulmouthed Houligan should have his tour of the United States ended and be sent packing. We don't need him or his porn promoting pimp friend or alter ego George either. Perhaps they can colonize Mars!

Soapboxmom

[Doc Bunkum]

Hmmm...

Here's an interesting web address:

forensicstudiesinvestigtion.com (http://www.forensicstudiesinvestigation.com/)

Follow that link and see where you end up!

[Soapboxmom]

VladiGeorgeSviat must be desperate to increase traffic. A wonderful birdy sent me that link as well. My thanks to you both for a good laugh! Who would ever take that place seriously as forensic investigators???:RpS_lol:

[Soapboxmom]

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Dead Forum
Looks like the forum is dying. Looks like the excessive thread moving and other crap is driving people away.

[Soapboxmom]

The Scam.com traffic plunge continues:

Unique Visitors

225,127



-26,707 | -10.61%

-161,098 | -41.71%

Rank (by UVs)

9,647



7,956 | -1,691

5,231 | -4,416

1369

[Earl Lee Tobed]

The Scam.com traffic plunge continues:

Unique Visitors

225,127



-26,707 | -10.61%

-161,098 | -41.71%

Rank (by UVs)

9,647



7,956 | -1,691

5,231 | -4,416

1369

For the hell of it,and because I am unable to post under my original avatar as Father on scum.com,due to supermod/bitch/oranothermod/owner/George/whoknows changing my signature line which contained a link to this site,I attempted to re-register as a new member in the hope of posting some new information on a thread I had started quite some years ago.As "new owner" Vladimir was asking members with problems posting to contact him direct I firstly contacted him to make him aware of the situation.However scum.com deleted my PM as Vladimirs inbox was full and hadnt been emptied for some time! Great admin huh!I then tried to send a general plea to "anyone in control of admin". Same result.So I then registered as a new member.Then to add insult to injury,no confirmation email was sent to my inbox in order to activate the account.After a second attempt,STILL NO EMAIL!
No wonder they are sinking like the Titanic! (Vladimir---no interest---just like George).

[littleroundman]

Your main problem is, you wanted to post about scams.

It's becoming increasingly obvious the focus of the forum is being intentionally diverted onto other matters.

It appears the new management is being hampered by being saddled with the "Scam" reference in the forums' name.

[Soapboxmom]

Realscam.com

Unique Visitors



M 38.28%

Y 78.18%

9,146

Rank (by UVs)



M 62,636

Y 131,858

165,337

1370
Scam.com
Unique Visitors




M -8.69%

Y -38.25%

205,555

Rank (by UVs)



M -687

Y -3,939

9,850

1371
Even with legions of spambots registering daily the historic plunge continues!

[EagleOne]

Your main problem is, you wanted to post about scams.

It's becoming increasingly obvious the focus of the forum is being intentionally diverted onto other matters.

It appears the new management is being hampered by being saddled with the "Scam" reference in the forums' name.

However, it is an easy fix. All they have to do is change one letter in their name and it becomes what it truly is now: Scum.com.

[Soapboxmom]

Now, Dranichak is claiming that he is back in Ontario. We apparently export our crazies to Canada:






George Dranichak


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[Soapboxmom]

Sojustask's reign is coming to an end. Her royal highness is certainly not in charge and she can't throw her weight around like she used to. Notice how short the Administrators list has gotten:


Moderators



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Forums
Contact



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Meri Widow (http://www.scam.com/member.php?u=131623)





mumbles (http://www.scam.com/member.php?u=32680)





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Administrators



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Moderators



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Forum Jump





Hilariously, George is back in the mod list and they still haven't removed Hopeful Cynic, the technical genius behind this site I must add. NNHeadlines has been removed from the list. Woudn't want the mods to notice the Naked News spammer shared Zachary's IP. Down the tubes she goes!

[Soapboxmom]

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Hey, Heather DeBrott
Sweetie,

I read your message on your little site.

Quote:


Originally Posted by SoapBoxMoron
Sojustask's reign is coming to an end. Her royal highness is certainly not in charge and she can't throw her weight around like she used to. Notice how short the Administrators list has gotten:




Thought about answering you there since you don't have my current IP blocked, then thought, nah! I'll do it in my playground.

I wasn't demoted. As you should recall, I never wanted to be the Adminstrator.

Just because my request was finally granted, don't think it was because I fell from grace Chicklet.

I have as much input and power as I've always had. You read WAY TOO MUCH into just about everything you see here. LOL


You really need to get a life Heather and talk about something besides George or myself. Maybe if you got back on the Prozac it would help you stop obsessing about us. Hmmmmm?


Lady Mod

aka: Stephanie Haberman




I hit a nerve. Notice, Stephanie talks only of herself and George. Did she just inadvertently admit that Sviat / Vladimir Sviatoslavich is just another George Dranichack creation used to deceive the members of Scam.com? Remember this:


Saying Goodbye


I just wanted to let you all know I'm leaving indefinitely. I'm rather fed up with this site, there is too much to keep up with, the owner never does anything to help nor will give anyone the admin privilege to do it ourselves. If he doesn't care, why should I? That has become my attitude. Frankly, I'm just too busy to want to play on forums that don't work or have absent owners. I put in long hours at the clinic where I work, teach twice a month and am taking some further education classes myself. Along with my home responsibilities, children and a disabled husband, I just frankly do not have the time to play on forums these days.

And I don't know what is wrong with the software. I can't keep the spammers off and half the time the server is too busy to do more than ban 2 or 3 of them before it stalls out. Folks I give up.

It's been a great 3 years, truly. I've made a lot of friends, a few enemies that threatened my life (who need to find something to do besides get pissed off at moderators who ban them for spamming the forum with their garbage) and all in all, it's been pretty entertaining.

I'm sorry to leave you all stranded like this, but moderating this site under it's current conditions is an exercise in futility. Stop reporting spam and complaints via the complaint buttons, it all goes into my spam file and I never see it anymore. You are wasting your time until this site gets an owner that gives a damn.

Those who have my email addy, keep in touch. May all of you choose your work at home programs wisely and for pity's sake, catch a clue. A SCAM site is the worst place in the world to try to recruit from. You aren't going to make money wasting time here defending your programs.

Namaste'

Lady Mod









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Admin

Join Date: Nov 2005
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Posts: 67





You are welcome to chat with people and moderate. The true goal of scam.com was to allow people to have an open forum to express their views and debate in an intellectual manner without fear of censorship. We wanted all the hot topics discussed here. As long as it is intelligent, leave it. We want people to disagree and have runaway threads.

Don't worry about sojustask. She was overwhelmed with the spam and server issues. I upgraded the servers and hired a bunch of people to help with the workload. I honestly don't know why she came back, but I need to be loyal to her.

You do your thing and don't worry about anything. Sorry I am not more involved. I literally have 20 letters from lawyers on my desk that I need to start working through. If posts are deleted, its due to the lawyers.
Thanks a ton too.


Remember Stephanie's power trips where she said I and the others moderated with her permission and all the crap about how she ran the forum. All BS and damned hard to do when one doesn't have admin privileges. Steph also claimed she was responsible for keeping traffic up. Again, without admin access she couldn't see any stats or activity on the board.

I notice George isn't selling much of his ad space. I guess even the dumbest of scammers don't want to waste money advertising to other ding-dong MLMers and spambots!!!

:computer_smash:

Soapboxmom

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Using Scam.com To Help Yourself
We recently closed registration and we are manually adding new members. It's honestly more work initially but less work on spam. We were literally gettting 1000+ spam bots a day and now we are getting 50 to 70 quality members a day. Part of the registration process is a few sentence paragraph about yourself which helps me manage the forum.

Here's how scam.com can help you:

Exposing SCAMMERS!: That's our mission statement. Ripped off? Pissed off? Angry? Fight Back here! Sign up and be heard! This is a consumer friendly message board. Our name is SCAM.COM btw!

Political: Spread your agenda, propaganda, your points of view. Free speech, stay on topic. This is an election year and your opinion TRULY helps mold America's voters! , If a political post becomes too slanted another way it will get moved to Business, Government, Racial, Chat, etc. Warning, this particular forum is not for the weak. I have never seen a shark tank like our Political Chat.

Business research: Research companies that have scammed people. Post reviews, positive and negative.

Business promotion: USE YOUR SIG FILE to promote your website, blog, or business. Scam.com gets almost 2 million hits a month. Chat, post articles, opinions.....let your sig file be your promotion. Most forums dont allow it or add "no follow" tags. We want to help our members succeed, but if you are a scammer, be ready for the heat. So in closing, don't sign up and spam your MLM or whatver, post strong opinions on topic across the board, and I promise you'll get more visitors to your site than spamming some links and getting your IP banned in 20 minutes. Be smart, contribute, and we all win.

Passing time at work: Facebook gets boring, you can get your news here at scam.com. This is a wild community. I think of it as the WWE of politics, race, and religion. It's addictive here. You can make time at work speed up spending a few hrs on scam.com

Haters Welcome: We want strong opinions. No serial killers or KKK maniacs (although some post here). I walk around everyday and EVERYTHING, LITERALLY is a scam. Unless

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Are we all going to finally concede that you are the one and only liar and fake George Dranichak, who is masquerading under yet a new and even more ridiculous name having once again faked the sale of the site? George's lies and deceit have ruined that forum and the traffic is plummmeting. The traffic there has always consisted of mostly spambots and that is where most of the hits come from as George never upgraded the Vbulletin and installed proper security add-ons. Really stupid to run-off and ban GlimDropper (Scam's HopefulCynic). He is the brains behind this forum and that is why we aren't having all the horrendous issues Scam is dealing with.

[Doc Bunkum]

We recently closed registration and we are manually adding new members. It's honestly more work initially but less work on spam. We were literally gettting 1000+ spam bots a day and now we are getting 50 to 70 quality members a day. Part of the registration process is a few sentence paragraph about yourself which helps me manage the forum.

Sure you are.

The last "member" to join was ReportTheTruth and that was back on 05-24-2012 and he/she hasn't made a single post.

50 to 70 quality members a day joining you say?

I don't think so.

Ask yourself, do you really think anyone is going to provide a few sentence paragraphs about themselves just to join a forum?

I don't think so.

[Blue Wolf]

I hit a nerve. Notice, Stephanie talks only of herself and George. Did she just inadvertently admit that Sviat / Vladimir Sviatoslavich is just another George Dranichack creation used to deceive the members of Scam.com?

Soapboxmom

I find it strange that Stephanie starts another thread about you, and then acts like you're the one who's obsessed about them. I wonder how many more times she's going to do this.

I also noticed that after a couple of people started complaining about her behavior, she locked that thread to prevent anybody else from complaining.

Nice.

Because, you know, people just love that kind of censorship.

That place will become a ghost town if this keeps up. But I guess George/Sviat/Zachary will still have the spambots to keep him company.

[Soapboxmom]

I find it strange that Stephanie starts another thread about you, and then acts like you're the one who's obsessed about them. I wonder how many more times she's going to do this.

I also noticed that after a couple of people started complaining about her behavior, she locked that thread to prevent anybody else from complaining.

Nice.

Because, you know, people just love that kind of censorship.

That place will become a ghost town if this keeps up. But I guess George/Sviat/Zachary will still have the spambots to keep him company.
Poor George/Sviat/Zachary still has the same new member from Thursday morning. Aren't we just a little shy of that 50-70 a day he bragged of???


Threads: 50,688, Posts: 856,456, Members: 297,964

Welcome to our newest member, ReportTheTruth (http://www.scam.com/member.php?u=300279)




Besides the spambots, I am sure his fired Mod from hell, Heiny, and his sidekick Chrissy will be there through time immemorial. Most amusing!

[Soapboxmom]

There is nothing like advertising you are having problems and completely desperate:


05-25-2012, 06:02 AM





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Vladimir


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Looking For Affiliate Programs
I am looking for high paypout, PPC, PP lead affiliate programs.

Spam this thread the links. Looking for adsense alternatives. There's alot of threads on scam.com that have borderline/risky topics and I am making zero money with the current dating banners on there.

Use this thread. If you are active member I will gladly sign up 'under you' with referral linkshttp://www.scam.com/images/smilies/king22.gif

Please provide details in short detail.





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Vladimir


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Re: Looking For Affiliate Programs
Listen I am open minded when it comes to advertising and affiliate programs. 98% of people here don't click any ads, so people are programmed to avoid them. But I still have expenses......http://www.scam.com/images/smilies/spin2.gif




Why would folks coming to an anti-scam forum want to click on ads? Who wants to fund a known pimp, porn producer and porn spammer? For the love of mud. Scam.com needs to just be honest about what it is and openly promote scams. That is what Scam has been doing behind the scenes for years. What a joke!!!

[Whip]

Why would folks coming to an anti-scam forum want to click on ads? Who wants to fund a known pimp, porn producer and porn spammer? For the love of mud. Scam.com needs to just be honest about what it is and openly promote scams. That is what Scam has been doing behind the scenes for years. What a joke!!!

It's not even that. It's why would any of them give anything to someone else? All they care about is whatever **** they are hawking themselves. Though I'm sure heiney and doyley are infatuated with the porn links. I'm one of those that never clicks ads on sites. If I want something, I'll go search for it myself.

[littleroundman]

What's even better/worse for those who rely on shady advertising for revenue is the fact browsers like Google Chrome and Firefox now offer free addons which block ads completely.

Anyone using Firefox can simply download addons like NoScript, AdBlock and RequestPolicy which not only block ads, but also prevent unauthorized scripts from running and allow the user to both block and log information requests and cross site linking.

[Soapboxmom]

Threads: 50,690, Posts: 856,510, Members: 297,964
Welcome to our newest member, ReportTheTruth (http://www.scam.com/member.php?u=300279)


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Welcome to our newest member, UpOnCC (http://www.scam.com/member.php?u=300289)



4th day in a row and same new member until another several were added just moments ago. The advertisers will not spend a dime on a forum run by an obvious liar. Members are not joining and the traffic is, as Vladigeorge admitted, mostly comprised of spambots. Vladigeorge better watch out. Can he trust all those many mods not to rat him out????


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=r0yXqU-w9U0

[Soapboxmom]

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Welcome to our newest member, quandry (http://www.scam.com/member.php?u=300299)



ReportTheTruth joined on 5/24/2012 and there were 297,964 members then. So, in almost 5 full days there are 20 new members and they aren't posting. So much for the bragging of 50-70 a day. Those bold faced lies are one of many reasons advertisers stay away from that dump.

Sviat, Administrator and his other alter ego, Health Articles, are doing much of the posting in what appears to be a desperate attempt to draw in traffic. I notice the charming snips from sojustask have been removed. Did George realize she was once again outing him??? Is Sviat going to keep pretending that he lives in Belgrade, Serbia and that he posted on Facebook from Farmington, New york where George Dranichak was living by coincidence, while he was touring the United States of course??? How stupid does he think the public is?

Soapboxmom

[Soapboxmom]

Vladigeorge is posting some of the write-ups prospective members are sending him:


http://www.scam.com/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 05-24-2012, 12:37 PM




http://www.scam.com/image.php?u=17577&dateline=1323431559 (http://www.scam.com/member.php?u=17577)
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Vladimir

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: The Matrix
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Re: Introduce Yourself Here!
Welcome ReportTheTruth!!!


Quote:


I am a builder in Kirkland washington and I was reading your posts on Remington, Kennedy and Bluestone. You may want to add Fischer Financial to that list. I have been scammed and have submitted my docs to Annette Murphy at the NY FBI office and my complaint has been registered as part of the case against that lot.





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Re: Introduce Yourself Here!
Welcome bingo1912:

Quote:


I am a 57 yo male from WA state. I have been a member of the online community since I got my first computer, an 8088. I have been dealing with scammer/spammers ever since my first e-mail address.

My wife is an innocent soul and I spend a LOT of time fixing her comps, I think she may be getting wise to the fact that not everything she sees on-line is true,,,lol
The reason I am here is because I do a lot of business on-line through my BBQ business and craigslist.com. At every opportunity I try to help police internationally try to apprehend scammer's in their local area by alerting them to the addresses involved in their area. Here is my website.
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Vladigeorge does realize we can count I assume. Let's have some fun with math.


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Welcome to our newest member, moonfairy70 (http://www.scam.com/member.php?u=300314)



That is 35 members in one week or 5 a day. Only two wrote something worth being posted by Vladigeorge in the Introduce Yourself Here thread. He is a liar and fraud. That is nowhere near the 50-70 quality members a day he bragged of. ReportTheTruth has made a whopping single post. Down the toilet goes Scam!

[Soapboxmom]

Vladimir Sviatoslavich


Marketing at Scam.com (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Scamcom/138112836292886)Studied Law at University of Montenegro (https://www.facebook.com/pages/University-of-Montenegro/107546352601576)Lives in Belgrade, Serbia (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Belgrade-Serbia/109920975697736)From Belgrade, Serbia (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Belgrade-Serbia/109920975697736)Knows Serbian, English, Russian, Spanish, Slovak

Work and Education



Employers


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Marketing · 2011 to present · Belgrade, Serbia
World Free Speech Alliance
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Class of 2010 · Law · Marketing · Computer Science





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Check out the link for 4Reels Digital E! How is he employed there when he resides in Belgrade, Serbia?????

[Soapboxmom]

06-01-2012, 10:57 AM







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Sign Up To Message Boards
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If you run a website or blog, please tell people about scam.com!

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Begging is really attractive!

[Soapboxmom]

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9 members in two days. Less than 5 members a day is a mere fraction of what you said you were getting, Vladigeorge. So, much for 50-70 posters a day, much less quality ones. Bye-bye advertising dollars!

[Whip]

06-01-2012, 10:57 AM







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Vladimir


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Sign Up To Message Boards
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If you run a website or blog, please tell people about scam.com!

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Begging is really attractive!

And a lie to boot!

[Soapboxmom]

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Welcome to our newest member, Lawboy61 (http://www.scam.com/member.php?u=300323)



Zero new members! Ouch!!!

[Soapboxmom]

Vladigeorge is at it again deleting like mad:

scams

1394


(http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=146351&page=7)

[Soapboxmom]

Vladigeorge is posting to himself. He is Administrator and Health Articles.


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[littleroundman]

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[Lightbulb]

Will the Mods that are left remove the garbage this fake Supermod is posting. Will VladiGeorge fess up to his mods about what he is up to as he desperately scrounges to save that place?

Nope, the mods must have been told to not delete the spam posted by watwaat22 as none of them have. Sviat seems to have decided to go with the "easy" way out, with making money with bots clicking ads and profit sharing with a spammer. Am only surprised that google ads hasn't pulled their ads for click fraud.

[Earl Lee Tobed]

Scum.com is now Spam.com?

Listen up Vladi-boy---oy vay,---and learn how to run a real scambusting website---tune in to REALSCAM.COM the number one for pointers!

[Soapboxmom]

VladiGeorge / Sviat or whatever he is calling himself these days had plenty of incentive to fake the sale of Scam again. His porn empire is crumbling:

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[nomaxim]

Some of you need to lay off the caffeine.

At present watwaat22 (public profile at Scam.com) (http://www.scam.com/member.php?u=304191) has a total of two posts.
They are both in this thread, نتيجة البريفيه 2012 لبنان نتائج البروفيه brevet
(http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?p=1212283#post1212283) at Scam.com.

This individual is just posting the results of the Lebanese National High School tests.
Likely nothing more then a overly happy parent whose child did well.
IMHO, see below.

Many countries, and States have these types of websites.

For example;
In California it is called the CAHSEE (http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/tg/hs/),
In New York it is called the SHSAT (http://schools.nyc.gov/Accountability/resources/testing/SHSAT.htm)

PS;
Using translate.google.com (http://translate.google.com/) we get the following translation for the thread title, "نتيجة البريفيه 2012 لبنان نتائج البروفيه brevet".

Result Albrevih 2012 to Lebanon, the results of brevet Albrevih
'Albrevih' appears to be a Lebanese term (possibly French or maybe with Italian roots) and means 'Official Exam'.

'brevet' is 'Italian' and means ranking, however, it is generally used by the military.

Basically, we get the following translation ;
' نتيجة البريفيه 2012 لبنان نتائج البروفيه brevet' (this is Arabic so remember to read 'right to left').
And Google translate is not perfect after all, it only performs a 'literal translation'
So by my interpretation it means;

Results of the official exam in Lebanon, the results of the ranking of the official exam.

Note:
Lebanon, and Syria, where under the control of France from 1918 (end of WWI and the rule of the Ottomans) until the mid to late 1940's.


Additional note:
I realize that the 'Bella Homes' incident was a classic.
But, is RS now trying to top that?
Or, is RS trying to show that is a better website then Scam.com?

Any actual debate on this matter is more then welcome.

And remember that 'nomaxim' has always been a independent operator.

[Soapboxmom]

Dearest Nomaxim,

Things are not always what they seem. Tons of weird threads have gone up and down. Lots of different sports matches appeared and disappeared. VladiGeorge / Sviat has some money making scheme with this Supermod. No site puts someone in as a supermod that is not a regular poster and valued member unless they are up to no good. George lied about selling the site and putting in soft porn and other spam links all along.

He is now screwing more advertisers. Some folks haven't caught on that most of his traffic over the years has been spambots. Who wants to advertise to armies of spambots??? And, who would have anything to do with the site if they knew what was going on behind the scenes?

I spent way too much time working for that porn producer and porn spammer not to have his number. That cesspool needs to be shut down!

[Earl Lee Tobed]

Some of you need to lay off the caffeine.

At present watwaat22 (public profile at Scam.com) (http://www.scam.com/member.php?u=304191) has a total of two posts.
They are both in this thread, نتيجة البريفيه 2012 لبنان نتائج البروفيه brevet
(http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?p=1212283#post1212283) at Scam.com.

This individual is just posting the results of the Lebanese National High School tests.
Likely nothing more then a overly happy parent whose child did well.
IMHO, see below.

Many countries, and States have these types of websites.

For example;
In California it is called the CAHSEE (http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/tg/hs/),
In New York it is called the translate.google.com (http://schools.nyc.gov/Accountability/resources/testing/SHSAT.h

PS;
Using [URL="http://translate.google.com/) we get the following translation for the thread title, "نتيجة البريفيه 2012 لبنان نتائج البروفيه brevet".

'Albrevih' appears to be a Lebanese term (possibly French or maybe with Italian roots) and means 'Official Exam'.

'brevet' is 'Italian' and means ranking, however, it is generally used by the military.

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' نتيجة البريفيه 2012 لبنان نتائج البروفيه brevet' (this is Arabic so remember to read 'right to left').
And Google translate is not perfect after all, it only performs a 'literal translation'
So by my interpretation it means;


Note:
Lebanon, and Syria, where under the control of France from 1918 (end of WWI and the rule of the Ottomans) until the mid to late 1940's.


Additional note:
I realize that the 'Bella Homes' incident was a classic.
But, is RS now trying to top that?
Or, is RS trying to show that is a better website then Scam.com?

Any actual debate on this matter is more then welcome.

And remember that 'nomaxim' has always been a independent operator.

A happy Lebanese parent publishing his offsprings exam results on a website called SCUM.COM?

Are you serious???

Nah----its a Taliban secret message in code!

Seems Vladi-boy is a part-time terrorist---oy vay---vots a body to do?

[Soapboxmom]

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The forum is jammed with spam. George will let anyone into his forum controls if he smells a little cash!

[Doc Bunkum]

Censor Words being updated & Advertising Available


It has come to our attention that the banned censored words on scam.com are messed up. I spent 15hrs working on them and redid the whole way we ban bad words and litigious issues. Hopefully things are better, message me if you have issues. We are doing our best to honor old arrangements prior to our purchase, so let us know. I threw in some funny wildcards that help lighten up some angry posts :)

[Soapboxmom]

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The spampede continues!!!!Let me help you out with that.

At current;

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z149/Oolam/watwaat5.png

As you can see, a number of the posts have already been deleted.

Why????

Look at the content.
They are links to live streams for sporting events. No reason to leave them up after the event is over.
Besides, the NFL especially takes a rather dim view of things like this.
Depending on the relative licensing that is.

It appears that this company is somehow involved, sunbiz.org (http://sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?action=DETFIL&inq_doc_number=L10000113657&inq_came_from=NAMFWD&cor_web_names_seq_number=0000&names_name_ind=&names_cor_number=&names_name_seq=&names_name_ind=&names_comp_name=ADWORKMEDIAGROUP&names_filing_type=).

At least that is the company that shows up when I attempt to access the links at 'wemat.blogspot.com'.
(They apparently don't care for Ad-Blocker Plus. Also seems to be somewhat dated instructions as 'ABP' hasn't shown up near the search bar in FF for a year or two now.) :RpS_wink:


http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z149/Oolam/wawaat2.png

Also, as you can see, SmartViper already has that blog site listed for copyright infringement.
(Note that SmartViper is a web mining company.)
markosweb.com/tag/copyright+infringement/13/ (http://www.markosweb.com/tag/copyright+infringement/13/);
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z149/Oolam/wawaat4.png

Wemat is a sub section of Blogspot.com.

Blogspot.com is hosted by Google and registered to MarkMonitor Inc. in Boise, ID.
WhoIs for Blogspot.com (http://whois.domaintools.com/blogspot.com).
WhoIs for Markmonitor.com (http://whois.domaintools.com/markmonitor.com).

Some random other accounts I found at Blogspot.com doing the same thing as well;
raselusatv9999.blogspot.com
footballtvchannel01.blogspot.com
nfl2012livestreamingtv.blogspot.com
allusasportslivetv.blogspot.com

Sorry, but there were just over 15,000 Google search results for just this one game today (Steelers vs. Colts).
Many where for other websites besides Blogspot as well.

[Soapboxmom]

So, we have just proven the forum is not there to advocate for consumers and support free speech. It is the money making toy of a porn producer, spammer and mogul. The owner will lie and manipulate things in any way possible to generate cash. Tens of thousands of legitimate posts (over 4000 alone for just me) have been removed by threat, incentive or advertising by known scams or questionable businesses. Posting there is pointless as the chances of the post disappearing are quite high. I refuse to support the dishonest dealings that go on there.

Of course, VladiGeorge / Sviat's desperate attempts to scrounge money off of bot clicks and hide the ownership of that cesspool does make for some good comedy!

Soapboxmom

[Doc Bunkum]

To top it all off, it appears someone has made iamwil a mod.

[Soapboxmom]

To top it all off, it appears someone has made iamwil a mod.
The lying scammers control the place. iamwill claimed to be away on vacation one week and when his ip was checked it hadn't changed. Those Trivita products seem to be hallucinogenic!

[Doc Bunkum]

For sure, MLM seems to attract a special breed. :RpS_smile:

Just yesterday CD posted this gem:


My expenses in my business are actually very tiny... My office is my kitchen table and I would have those expenses anyway, but I can still claim a portion.

I haven't heard an admission quite like that from a big time MLM operator since Broker Jones bragged about his 1.68 GPA!

Of course, that's CD and you sort of expect those kinds of statements from him. When I brought it up today, his story changed slightly, as would be expected.


Nice try Doc, but my office is wherever I put my laptop or wherever I am with my smartphone. At this very moment I'm sitting in my lounge, on my laptop after being on a skype call with a downline partner of mine, so my office is now my lounge.


If any of that makes sense.

JC had the best post of the day in reply to what CD posted above:


You having a smartphone is an oxymoron. :RpS_laugh:

[nomaxim]

To top it all off, it appears someone has made iamwil a mod.

That happened at least 6 months ago.

He's kinda taken 'Mumbles' place on most of the forum.

'mumbles' hasn't posted in months.

[nomaxim]

To top it all off, it appears someone has made iamwil a mod.

That happened at least 6 months ago.

He's kinda taken 'Mumbles' place on most of the forum.

'mumbles' hasn't posted in months.

[Soapboxmom]

mumbles was way too smart and good for that place. But, George wouldn't let that wonderful man or any of us run off the obvious scammers. I guess he couldn't take the BS any longer. $$$$$ dictate what goes on over at the Scam support forum!

[nomaxim]

So, we have just proven the forum is not there to advocate for consumers and support free speech. It is the money making toy of a porn producer, spammer and mogul.Are you familiar with word relationships?
For example:
1.) These terms are not related, one of them does not belong.
Green
Carrot
Blue

2.)These terms are not related, one of them does not belong.
Hookers
The Vatican
Eternal Salvation

3.) These terms are not related, one of them does not belong.
Porn Producer
Consumer Advocate
Spammer

Why would anyone think that 'Consumer Advocate' belongs in #3?

Anyone that checks at archive.org/web (http://archive.org/web/web.php) for Scam.com can see that it was a porn site back in March 2004, almost 9 years ago.
And if you checked the address that was in the WhoIs up to last October (Rua Correia Teles, 28 A, suite 106, Lisbao 1350-100 Portugal) you would have discovered that a number of porn sites were also registered there. I did exactly that back in early 2006, late 2007, almost 6 years ago.
So the fact that Scam.com was related to the porn industry is hardly a recent discovery.

Besides, I'm under the impression that Scam.com is more of a discussion forum, then a consumer advocate website. Granted, there is some self promotion about 'the best whistle blower site' (see homepage screen below), but most websites have some form of self-promotional thing relating to the domain name.


Tens of thousands of legitimate posts (over 4000 alone for just me) have been removed by threat, incentive or advertising by known scams or questionable businesses.Actually, he can remove any posts or threads he wishes without any reason at all any time he chooses. He owns the website and therefore also owns the content. The website is considered private property.
Posting there is pointless as the chances of the post disappearing are quite high.Umm, can't say that I've ever really had that problem. I've been there almost 6 years and have almost 3,000 posts. To date I don't believe I've had more then half a dozen threads I've posted in get deleted. 30-40 posts maybe in total and 2-3 of those were concerning the Negri/Saxx ordeal. But those two have been at it for years starting threads and getting them deleted around the net. I do believe that that matter has now been dealt with; see NegriElectronics.com scam- Ryan Negri Scammer, Post #8 (http://scam.com/showpost.php?p=1155774&postcount=8).

I've also had posts and threads deleted at other forums as well. In fact, I can even show one that has been deleted at another forum. It's from a product review over at Cnet a few years ago.
reviews.cnet.com (http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/avadirect-custom-gaming-pc/4505-3118_7-33626864-2.html);
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z149/Oolam/watwaat6.pngThat thread is no longer available and from what I understand it was removed at the request of the OP as part of a settlement with the company in question. Consumer advocate, mediation, and all that.
I have no problem with this.


I refuse to support the dishonest dealings that go on there.Doesn't appear that your support has been needed for awhile now.
Hate to break that news to ya.
Might explain what happened to your 4,000 posts though.


Of course, VladiGeorge / Sviat's desperate attempts to scrounge money off of bot clicks and hide the ownership of that cesspool does make for some good comedy!It's also rather ironic that some scammers pay for the upkeep of the website and the expense of the other scammers.
Down right diabolical.
(Shouldn't have used that word, now Henry Higgins will show up.)

Oh, one small point.
Take a look at the Scam.com Homepage;
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z149/Oolam/wawaat7.png

50,171 threads and 863,081 posts.

And almost ~35% of that content is in what forum?

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z149/Oolam/watwaat8.png

'Political Chat' has more content then the 'Internet Scam' and the 'MLM Scams' put together.
'Religious Scams' isn't even about scams much anymore, in fact, it should likely be renamed 'Religious Debate'
There are also other sections, 'Conspiracy Theories', 'Science Controversy' etc. that aren't about scams either.

So, it's iffy.
But, roughly 50% of the content at Scam.com isn't about scams at all.
And a number of the members posting in those other sections know that the website has a past, and possibly current, ties to the porn industry.
They don't care.
Yes, they have complaints about the site.
But, that isn't one of them.
Mostly they complain that the cannot type the 'F' word anymore.

I also wouldn't be surprised if many of the major posters and/or long time members in those sections, like Gazza (http://scam.com/member.php?find=lastposter&t=166631), kazza (http://scam.com/member.php?find=lastposter&t=166822) (no relation), pwrone (http://scam.com/member.php?find=lastposter&t=166812), dchristie (http://scam.com/member.php?find=lastposter&t=166965), carlbenator (http://scam.com/member.php?u=142590), lexx (http://scam.com/member.php?find=lastposter&t=166811), thistle (http://scam.com/member.php?find=lastposter&t=166529), LogicallyYours (http://scam.com/member.php?find=lastposter&t=166443), box86rowh (http://scam.com/member.php?find=lastposter&t=166670), brucefan (http://scam.com/member.php?find=lastposter&t=114796), Raider (http://scam.com/member.php?find=lastposter&t=124620), danrush1966 (http://scam.com/member.php?u=135349), and a number of others even know who you are.

Oh, before I forget.
'Finix' brought this thread up in 'Political Chat' at Scam 6 months ago.
Why Barrack Obama Shouldn't be President, Post #90 (http://scam.com/showpost.php?p=1140321&postcount=90)

Apparently the same owner from 2002-2011.
Check the 'WhoIs' registration records at aboutus.org/Scam.com?history (http://www.aboutus.org/Scam.com?history). The address in Portugal shows up until 2007-8. In fact, a Google Search for that address (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22++++Rua+Correia+Teles%2C+28+A%2C+suite +106++++++Lisbao%2C+%2C+Lisbao+1350-100+Portugal+%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#q=%22++++Rua+Correia+Teles,+28+A,+suite+106+++++ +Lisbao,+,+Lisbao+1350-100+Portugal+%22&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Vqw&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvns&filter=0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=d272a33775ff33c4&biw=1472&bih=702) still gives returns for Scam.com. The former Admin account 'Zachary' even had his location listed as Lisbao, Portugal. It wasn't until the site moved to Rackco that this address was replaced by a moniker address in Serbia.

Now the 'About Us' info gives a address in Canada, but the WhoIs info (http://whois.domaintools.com/scam.com) gives another moniker address in Serbia.

Hell, even the BBB has linked them together in the past,
(That's an even older address).
bbb.org/buffalo/Business-Reviews/internet-services/scam-com-in-niagara-falls-ny (http://www.bbb.org/buffalo/Business-Reviews/internet-services/scam-com-in-niagara-falls-ny-17003306/);

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z149/Oolam/Scam100.png

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z149/Oolam/scam101.png

Sorry, but most of us long term members here already now all this. I found out about it even before Heather became a Mod here. There are likely even still threads about it around here somewhere. The sale of this website back around 2005 was a hoax.
This website has a rather interesting history to say the least.Odd, that this post and thread somehow got missed during the purging of "Tens of thousands of legitimate posts".

He appears to have missed this one from DEC2010 as well.

By the way, did you know that this website is owned by a Canadian porn peddler. You did notice the girlie pics at the bottom of the pages, right? Just wanted to point that out before you continue on about people mocking Christians. Especially in a thread in which the title and first post mocks someone else's religious beliefs.

[nomaxim]

mumbles was way too smart and good for that place. But, George wouldn't let that wonderful man or any of us run off the obvious scammers. I guess he couldn't take the BS any longer. $$$$$ dictate what goes on over at the Scam support forum!Actually, he appears to have gone to another political forum.

He linked to it in his signature.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z149/Oolam/wawaat9.png

Besides, your wonderfully smart man believes that we should stop importing oil and buying wind turbines from China. That we should switch everything back over to coal. You obviously never read any of his posts in the science or political forums. Even though we all had a good laugh when he accidentally posted a image on sea level rise that included the sinking of Atlantis.

Koche Funded Climate Study Proves Global Warming, Post #103 (http://scam.com/showpost.php?p=1099546&postcount=103)

what i was making clear is, the chart offered for discussion on this thread was not a chart of measured temperature, but a chart of anomalies, adjusted for all that crap you are talking about. here is a chart of real data:

http://www.atlantisquest.com/Sea-chart.jpeg

you can pick any location you like - graph the temperature for as long as real data is available -

it won't be a hockey stick.Of course, it was rather unanimously decided later that he had almost no knowledge of statics and he considered a Jr High level plot graph as 'fancy math'.
Not to mention that small detail that the graph is on sea level rise and not temperature.

His ultra-conservative political views also got him in a bit of a bind when he became unemployed. When you post for years about how welfare, unemployment, and health care are Communist/Marxist ideas and then have to go on unemployment.
Well, let's just say he had a rather difficult time in the political forum after that.

[Soapboxmom]

Ah, you are brave, my man. I only ventured in that political forum when there was no alternative. So many forums, but so little time. I had to remove the picture of the old pervert in the teddie making it with a Chevrolet Suburban tailpipe in that horrid Scam political forum. Dear mumbles did recognize MLMs and cash gifting etc. as frauds in the forums I hung around in. The Scam political forum is exactly the reason no such section exists here. LOL!!! No one wants to moderate a cesspool like that. It got way too ugly!

Soapboxmom

[nomaxim]

No one wants to moderate a cesspool like that. It got way too ugly!And yet, that is the largest and busiest section of that website.
About 40% of the threads and 35% of the posts.

[Soapboxmom]

Join Date: 06-07-2012

Posts

Total Posts: 94 (1.14 posts per day)


94 spam posts, but all are in the radio.scam.com section now. I bet the members were screaming about the blatant spam continuing to litter the place like they always do.

[Doc Bunkum]

The MLM faction is trying a new tactic over at scam to drown out the anti MLM zealots, as we're referred to.

Now they're clogging up anti MLM threads with jokes and recipes!

Too funny! :RpS_smile:

I started a thread there last night entitled: MLM - More Whoppers Than Burger King!

And who responds with a recipe?

None other than the newest mod - Willy the Juicer himself! :RpS_smile:


1 (14 to 16 pound) frozen young turkey
For the brine:
1 cup kosher salt
1/2 cup light brown sugar
1 gallon vegetable stock
1 tablespoon black peppercorns
1/2 tablespoon allspice berries
1/2 tablespoon candied ginger
1 gallon iced water
For the aromatics:
1 red apple, sliced
1/2 onion, sliced
1 cinnamon stick
1 cup water ...

Quickly followed by Chris the Cabbie...


Goan Curry.

This mild Indian-style dish is spicy rather than hot and relatively low-fat. Marinate the chicken slowly for more flavour.
Ingredients
4 large skinless chicken breasts, cut into chunks
3 tbsp vegetable oil
1 tsp yellow or brown mustard seeds
1 large onion, sliced
3 garlic cloves, finely sliced
1x400ml can coconut milk
salt
For the marinade...

Hilarious!

Savit is trying to get traffic to the site to pay the bills, and the MLM faction is driving them away!

They've done this on at least a half dozen threads so far I believe.

I tell you, it just doesn't get much better than this! :RpS_smile:

[littleroundman]

Err, now I'm confused.

Too deep for me.

What on earth is posting recipes supposed to indicate and why is a mod doing it ??