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littleroundman
01-07-2015, 01:56 AM
Yahoo Finance (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/herbalife-getting-crushed-192934025.html) is today reporting:

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kath
01-07-2015, 12:19 PM
Wow! talk about falling off a cliff! Now if only more of these scummy MLM's, (at least the publicly traded ones) could have the same thing happen, maybe it would be picked by the mainstream media and the word would get out that it is not worth getting involved in these things! Oh yeah and Colleges like CSUN in California would not have scamster companies like Transamerica and Revolution Financial Management at their `industry night events' luring poor na´ve college students into believing that those companies are a viable career path!
oh well one can dream.....:duh:

Doc Bunkum
01-07-2015, 01:00 PM
Wow! talk about falling off a cliff! Now if only more of these scummy MLM's, (at least the publicly traded ones) could have the same thing happen, maybe it would be picked by the mainstream media and the word would get out that it is not worth getting involved in these things!

Same things happening with NuSkin.

I believe they were at a high of $94.98 a share last year around this time.

They're trading around $41.99 a share these days - Nu Skin shares have fallen about 68 percent this year.

Investors finally got around to asking themselves the basic question - what gives the shares of companies like NuSkin or Herbalife value? Never mind the hype the company spins - take an actual look at the numbers and see where the revenue is coming from. Actual retail customers or the distributors buying product?

That's what started the derailment of the stock value of these companies.

Realname
01-08-2015, 08:03 AM
If the the volume of sales decreased the share's price will decrease too. That's how the markets works!!

littleroundman
01-08-2015, 09:27 AM
If the the volume of sales decreased the share's price will decrease too. That's how the markets works!!

That may be "A" reason, but, if you think it's "THE" reason, you're missing the point completely

Realname
01-08-2015, 12:39 PM
That may be "A" reason, but, if you think it's "THE" reason, you're missing the point completely

That's the unique real reason for shares depreciation. Its logic like 1 + 1 = 2!! Obviously there are many reason that explain why sales decreased.

laidback
01-08-2015, 04:19 PM
That's the unique real reason for shares depreciation. Its logic like 1 + 1 = 2!! Obviously there are many reason that explain why sales decreased.

Your understanding of what affects stock prices is naive. BTW in a binary numbering system, 1+1=10.

Whip
01-08-2015, 04:24 PM
Your understanding of what affects stock prices is naive. BTW in a binary numbering system, 1+1=10.

They are not here to understand any realities. Just to push mlm is good and everything else is bad.

okosh
01-08-2015, 08:58 PM
BTW in a binary numbering system, 1+1=10.

And in the pyramid/ponzi/MLM world 1+1=numbers on the s c r e e n....

littleroundman
01-08-2015, 10:46 PM
That's the unique real reason for shares depreciation. Its logic like 1 + 1 = 2!! Obviously there are many reason that explain why sales decreased.

If you think falling sales is the only thing causing Herbalifes' market slump, might I suggest you take a look outside the world of get-rich-quick and pyramid schemes and take a handful of reality pills with your Cornflakes tomorrow morning

Realname
01-09-2015, 01:17 PM
If you think falling sales is the only thing causing Herbalifes' market slump, might I suggest you take a look outside the world of get-rich-quick and pyramid schemes and take a handful of reality pills with your Cornflakes tomorrow morning

Beeing MLM or not it's always the sales & profits that drives share's value. Have you ever seen a company with positive net profits and at same time its share's price decreasing ??? Legal issue can affect future profits but its just one potencial reason that can affect the financial results of the company. The markets works always the same for mlm and for non mlm companies!

littleroundman
01-09-2015, 07:22 PM
What we have is:

Herbalifes' US sales figures are down, it's facing increasing regulatory pressure and its' stock prices have been in a steady decline

So, in your considered, expert opinion, Realname, would it be a good time to either join Herbalife as an IBO or to buy Herbalife stock or would prudence suggest it might be sensible to choose another multi level marketing company in which to invest your time and money ??

Realname
01-10-2015, 02:17 PM
What we have is:

Herbalifes' US sales figures are down, it's facing increasing regulatory pressure and its' stock prices have been in a steady decline

So, in your considered, expert opinion, Realname, would it be a good time to either join Herbalife as an IBO or to buy Herbalife stock or would prudence suggest it might be sensible to choose another multi level marketing company in which to invest your time and money ??

That market is saturated in US so if you want to profit wit herbalife business oportunity you need to do it in other countries like Mexico, Brazil, Venezuela, Russia, etc... There are many idiots there who still don't know herbalife neither know what mlm really is... So that's the right place to start your mlm venture and make good profits. Herbalife still has a high potencial growth in such countries! :RpS_smile:

Char
01-10-2015, 03:49 PM
That market is saturated in US so if you want to profit wit herbalife business oportunity you need to do it in other countries like Mexico, Brazil, Venezuela, Russia, etc... There are many idiots there who still don't know herbalife neither know what mlm really is... So that's the right place to start your mlm venture and make good profits. Herbalife still has a high potencial growth in such countries! :RpS_smile:

Sounds like you actually might succeed at MLM. Not that that's anything to be proud of! Have you considered stealing old ladies' purses when they come out of the doctors' offices? You know old people like to pay in cash so their wallets should be full of money. The US still has plenty of old people too so no need to venture out to those other countries.

NikSam
01-10-2015, 04:51 PM
That market is saturated in US so if you want to profit wit herbalife business oportunity you need to do it in other countries like Mexico, Brazil, Venezuela, Russia, etc... There are many idiots there who still don't know herbalife neither know what mlm really is... So that's the right place to start your mlm venture and make good profits. Herbalife still has a high potencial growth in such countries! :RpS_smile:

Do not know in details about Latin America, but HLF moved in to Russia and eastern europe like a hurricane in beginning of 90ies.
After socialists rule collapsed , "open free market" ideas opened hundreds of millions virgin victims to the US scams.
Stupid morons and pimps were wearing pins with "Want to loose weight ? - Ask me How" words, just to offer the $$$ dream and scam the unsuspected.

HLF was a first there, filling the pockets of US uplines and prolonging the scheme into the next generation, nothing to fish there for left anymore.


8919
Last column is the first year of the MLM scams when they were forced to report their "earnings" in Russia.

kschang
01-14-2015, 03:33 AM
Who can forget HLF's 2014 expansion into Cambodia and Vietnam, both with negligible overweight problem, with their weight-loss solutions like herbal tea (in ASIA?!) and protein shakes?

okosh
01-14-2015, 06:52 PM
Herbalife is great for weight loss....most people lose a couple kilograms off their wallet the minute they sign up....

Luzer
01-20-2015, 06:36 PM
Herbalife is great for weight loss....most people lose a couple kilograms off their wallet the minute they sign up....

The FTC investigation along with missed earnings projections and the fact that people are more aware of the scam is probably leading to the slowdown in Herbalife. I hope the FTC has the political will to protect the gullible people.

EagleOne
01-20-2015, 06:46 PM
Asking Realname advice about MLM is like asking Al Capone about accounting advice.

littleroundman
01-21-2015, 01:56 AM
The FTC investigation along with missed earnings projections and the fact that people are more aware of the scam is probably leading to the slowdown in Herbalife. I hope the FTC has the political will to protect the gullible people.

IM(very)HO, it's not for nothing Herbalife, Amway and NuSkin have been concentrating their efforts outside of the USA for some time now.

I'd be interested to know how many Americans / Australians / Europeans have NOT been hit on at least once in the past few years by someone offering to show them an "opportunity"

I've long been of the belief the "market saturation" spoken of by MLM critics isn't so much to do with the product/s but more to do with how many times people are targeted by MLM recruiters.

Try it for yourself.

Introduce the word "opportunity" into a conversation and see how many people respond with "It's not Amway, is it" or "It's not MLM is it"

Luzer
01-21-2015, 07:35 PM
IM(very)HO, it's not for nothing Herbalife, Amway and NuSkin have been concentrating their efforts outside of the USA for some time now.

I'd be interested to know how many Americans / Australians / Europeans have NOT been hit on at least once in the past few years by someone offering to show them an "opportunity"

I've long been of the belief the "market saturation" spoken of by MLM critics isn't so much to do with the product/s but more to do with how many times people are targeted by MLM recruiters.

Try it for yourself.

Introduce the word "opportunity" into a conversation and see how many people respond with "It's not Amway, is it" or "It's not MLM is it"

I agree. I believe the US market is saturated but the only thing preventing complete saturation and a possible "collapse" is the fact that a lot of people turn 18 each year, adding to the pool of (suckers) MLM candidates.

Realname
01-23-2015, 04:10 PM
Asking Realname advice about MLM is like asking Al Capone about accounting advice.

AL Capone was a very successfull amercican citizien and an idol and good reference for many americans or also for many citiziens worldwide! :RpS_smile:

Soapboxmom
01-23-2015, 06:42 PM
AL Capone was a very successfull amercican citizien and an idol and good reference for many americans or also for many citiziens worldwide! :RpS_smile:

Hats back on gentlemen, an idiot!

okosh
01-23-2015, 09:01 PM
AL Capone was a very successfull amercican citizien and an idol and good reference for many americans or also for many citiziens worldwide! :RpS_smile:

You idiot....lol

littleroundman
01-23-2015, 09:07 PM
You idiot....lol

Take it easy on the l'il fella.

It can't be easy being a troll for the HYIP ponzi industry.

Sometimes trolls have to say idiot things like that just to remain visible and people don't forget you.

NikSam
01-26-2015, 10:20 AM
AL Capone was a very successfull amercican citizien and an idol and good reference for many americans or also for many citiziens worldwide! :RpS_smile:

Ok, i might understand dirty harry effect on a young mind , guns/booze/money/cars/girls/bribed politicians – all of that I wanted too .
But his syphilis, jail , multiple assassination attempts , murders done by him, poor death, watching friends and family murdered – is very convincing "reference" not to take this road for any mentally healthy citizen.

Btw, he was also a psychopath.

kschang
01-31-2015, 11:01 PM
AL Capone was a very successfull amercican citizien and an idol and good reference for many americans or also for many citiziens worldwide! :RpS_smile:

Depends on which period of his life you look at, I guess. :D Were we talking about Godfather period? Or Alcatraz period?