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busttheblock
04-20-2014, 04:07 AM
This scam is being pushed hard by Eva Claesson. She goes by the usernames webfisher or larana (mmg forum). Major ponzi pimp.

This is an obvious scam, but you can see people calling it a totally legal opportunity. It is big in ponziland, the Netherlands. Also Germany and Portugal, and starting to make headway into the USA. All that members need to do is click 10 banners a day to earn passively. Ponzi!

busttheblock
04-20-2014, 04:38 AM
Here is a link to their youtube videos displaying their ponzi for everyone to see
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb0MDwPJtaIEk1lMGiK5OoQ

This is their introductory video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga2c2evuShk
This is nothing more than an illegal ponzi and you have people on the MMG forum claiming this is a real legitimate, long term business. What an absolute joke!

busttheblock
04-20-2014, 06:46 PM
Here is a response (not sure who the response is to though) from larana (Eva Claesson) on the MMG forum:

So if you donīt like it
you donīt have to join.
Noone is forcing you to.

It seems that itīs only people who are not in the program yet
that are negativ.

We who are in seem to be happy, I think.

As long as the members are happy with a program
it doesnīt matter what others think
as they donīt know what they are talking about.

It is pretty obvious that the promoters of this scam are trying to portray this as a legit company.
Yeah sure, most legit companies pay people to click 10 banners a day.:duh:

busttheblock
04-22-2014, 06:09 AM
This post Planb4you - Planb4you.eu (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=468813&view=findpost&p=1108788058) is the kind of absolute crap ponzi hype that pisses me off! I'm sure this ponzi scam "company" has purchased 12 factories. BS BS BS BS BS BS

littleroundman
04-22-2014, 06:32 AM
http://imageshack.com/a/img850/1720/k2m0d.jpg

And, to complete the nonsense, it's advertised on the MMG HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Planb4you-Planb4youeu-t468813.html&view=findpost&p=1108788058#entry1108788058) where no legitimate business EVER advertises.

AND,

registered and hosted in Belgium

http://imageshack.com/a/img850/8331/5c7w.jpg


Good luck trying to recover any money from this when it goes belly up.

And, rest assured, it WILL go belly up and sooner rather than later

busttheblock
05-06-2014, 09:15 AM
This scam is beginning to gain a bit of traction because more and more scam pimps are portraying this as real business. This is nothing more than a scam ponzi!

shayguy
05-26-2014, 02:35 PM
This is a real Business period,
guys you should really do your homework better here and not just jump to concludes... but I can see where you coming from,
so many scaming programs and scaming programs pimps out there
I personally know the owner of the company and know some of the plans that they have set up for the future,
and this is going to be a huge business, since it was built with super minded people, with allot of influence in the financial world, and with allot of money to invest,
PlanB4You has not even been born yet, but don't take any of my words here , just wait and see...soon it will.

Whip
05-26-2014, 03:26 PM
you're not getting your money back no matter how bad you try and justify the scam on anti-scam boards.

lukanos
06-15-2014, 03:42 AM
I dont think that this is a scam because you dont need to recruit new people and you must buy for 25% products in their store so i think that this is legit company.

Joe_Shmoe
06-15-2014, 05:37 AM
I dont think that this is a scam because you dont need to recruit new people and you must buy for 25% products in their store so i think that this is legit company.

Why do I need a referrer to join?

littleroundman
06-15-2014, 05:54 AM
I dont think that this is a scam because you dont need to recruit new people and you must buy for 25% products in their store so i think that this is legit company.

Don't NEED to recruit, but, if you do you can earn more, with no restriction on recruiting - making it a pyramid scheme

Have to spend 25% of your earnings in the store - you don't even get paid 100% of your earnings.

Being paid from (non existent) "advertising revenue" = ponzi

IOW, lukanos, kiss your money goodbye.

ribshaw
06-16-2014, 11:23 AM
this is going to be a huge business, since it was built with super minded people, with allot of influence in the financial world, and with allot of money to invest,

Why do people with allot [sic] of money to invest need to advertise for members on Ponzi forums? Why would they not just do what everyone else with allot [sic] of money to invest does and start a business and then have customers come and pay cash for what they are selling? That is the method used by legitimate businesses since the beginning of time.

By comparison endless recruiting has been used in 100% of Ponzi and Pyramid schemes for the obvious reason that they need money, hence not allot [sic] of their own.

Whip
06-16-2014, 12:37 PM
you make allot [sic] of sense

freighttrain
07-08-2014, 06:33 PM
Its a ponzi scheme. Only thing you have to do is pay 40 euro's and click on 10 ads for 25 days. Then you've got a magical 25% ROI.
You can even give more money to PlanB4You to get 'blocks' that will earn you even more money. And of course you can recruit people to earn more money, but it is not necessary to do so to still get a ridiculous ROI.
Soon after the launch, even the owner of PlanB4You figured out that this was too obvious of a ponzi scheme. Like as if there ever is a company that pays zombies to click its own ads and pay them for it.

So he made an imaginary shopping community as a cover for the ponzi. Now, PlanB4You promotors think that the money they earn comes from revenue of the sales of products from the PlanB4You webshop. Just don't ask them who's buying these products, then the PlanB4You promotors brain goes TILT and he gets angry and walks away, as there's no one who's buying these products and they know it.

brazilbizz
09-28-2014, 02:26 PM
Money's coming from advertising where advertisers have to pay big, because who can offer 2.5 million hits a month, must pay big.
Money's coming from selling products, which "can" be bought by members but also by other people visiting the webshop.
Money's coming from products sold by planb itself, where members have obligations/stocks.

Money isn't coming from other members who are paying. I caan't see how. Talking about 40 euros going in and thousands going out. Explain?!?

brazilbizz
09-28-2014, 02:30 PM
wrongly informed, my friend.
What you don't know scares you, right?
Been paid over and over again and still get more. Because of the fact you don't NEED to recruit, it proves it isn't a scam. Don't you know what's really ponzi? Did you do your homework?

brazilbizz
09-28-2014, 02:35 PM
Its a ponzi scheme. Only thing you have to do is pay 40 euro's and click on 10 ads for 25 days. Then you've got a magical 25% ROI.
You can even give more money to PlanB4You to get 'blocks' that will earn you even more money. And of course you can recruit people to earn more money, but it is not necessary to do so to still get a ridiculous ROI.
Ridiculous ah? Being paid over and over again

Soon after the launch, even the owner of PlanB4You figured out that this was too obvious of a ponzi scheme. Like as if there ever is a company that pays zombies to click its own ads and pay them for it.
So he went to american lawyers and asked them to investigate his own company and the outcome was, than PlanB is a legit business


So he made an imaginary shopping community as a cover for the ponzi. Now, PlanB4You promotors think that the money they earn comes from revenue of the sales of products from the PlanB4You webshop. Just don't ask them who's buying these products, then the PlanB4You promotors brain goes TILT and he gets angry and walks away, as there's no one who's buying these products and they know it.

The money comes from advertisers itself who wants to be part of the 2,5 million hits a month. Talking about Alexa ranking. Growing every day. And money comes from selling really the products to members and non-members. And ofcourse our stocks!!!

scratchycat
09-28-2014, 03:49 PM
Promoted on the same Money Making Group bought out by freelancer. com, right!!?? Anyone hanging around that place is going to get taken or rip someone off.

Whip
09-28-2014, 04:53 PM
I believe you are thinking of the warrior forum scratchy.

scratchycat
09-29-2014, 11:01 AM
Promoted on the same Money Making Group bought out by freelancer. com, right!!?? Anyone hanging around that place is going to get taken or rip someone off.

You are entirely correct Whip and thanks for pointing it out!! I don't hang around much anymore but later I remembered that was not the right one!! Oh, well, this might be next on their list of buyouts!!

stfwlk
10-10-2014, 08:39 AM
This scam does not earn any revenu from all the clicking, they have said themselves that they are going to close the first click based contracts in 2015.
This scam is currently being investigated by the Dutch authorities who suspect it to be illegal. Their offices and warehouse have been sealed.
The bank ING where they had their accounts until a few weeks ago froze all their accounts because the bank suspects they are fraudulent.
The books for 2013 show a huge loss (you can consult them publicly).
It seems that they are running out of money and stalling their imminent downfall with a) asking for a yearly contribution b) freezing they daily profits c) making up excuses for not paying out (they have been doing that since early august).
The person who runs this scheme went bankrupt running a single restaurant a while ago. Now he's going to start a whole chain of restaurants through PlanB4you. That should go well!

All this information is either publicly available or it comes from information PlanB4you or close associates of PlanB4you have provided, be it buried beneath layers of nonsense.

scratchycat
10-10-2014, 11:53 AM
John Muyris has the Plan for you over in FB.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/JohnsTeam-PlanB4U/460649800748174

See a lot of familiar faces and they are usually gathered around any of the scamming schemes, gotta support your 'friends' you know. He is also into another run on SFI, they just keep changing that one. Strong Future International (Sure Fire Income!) :RpS_wink:

scratchycat
10-10-2014, 11:58 AM
Oh geez, now why did I go there! One of our 'flavored' members of RS runs this one (SFI) in FB. Isn't there a long past thread here related to this scheming program?? https://www.facebook.com/groups/MartinezShopper72DOTtk/members/

You don't need to look far to find all these people buzzing around the hives of "programs".

EagleOne
10-10-2014, 01:10 PM
Things sure are fun over at the MMG thread for this Ponzi. Seems larana has me on ignore, and poor zoezeth is upset that I have all this time to "dig up dirt" on pb4y. Guess zoezeth hasn't figured out that you cannot "dig up dirt" if there is no dirt to dig up. Actually it took little effort to "dig up dirt" on pb4y.

Now what was truly funny is that one of the members tried to claim that all the major companies in the store were paying to advertise on pb4y, which is proof they are desperate to try to give pb4y the look of legitimacy. Not only did I point out this was a lie, but so has another poster who happens to be a member and gets it.

Now it is a 3-way race to see which program is going to collapse first: pb4y, GAS or AGN. All three are having major issues simultaneously. I doubt if all three last the month at the rate they are collapsing.

stfwlk
10-17-2014, 03:12 AM
More proof that this "company" is a joke.
PlanB4You (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://planb4you.eu/NLD/voorwaarden.php) the cached terms / general conditions of 7 october. They mention that the DUTCH law is applicable. The Dutch law explicitly forbids that companies ask for personal data like copies of ID's.
PlanB4You (http://planb4you.eu/NLD/voorwaarden.php) the same page now. It mentions that BELGIAN law is applicable. The law of that country allows companies to ask for copies of IDs.

PlanB4you changed their terms stealthily to fit their goals. They didn't tell anyone even though the terms explicitly state that if any changes to the terms occur, the members will be notified. They also didn't change the date of the terms or indicate anywhere that they were changed.

EagleOne
10-30-2014, 05:23 PM
Well, Eva Claesson/larana at MMG has suddenly disappeared from posting (even though she has me on ignore), but zoezeth is doing all that can be done to keep people joining. It seems zoezeth is the only one getting paid, and the only one posting any payments at MMG of any significance. Still not registered in 94 countries though claiming they are doing business in 95 countries. They supposedly had this great agency that did an audit of them and found they were totally legal and not a Ponzi, but for some reason the Dutch aren't cooperating in approving them. You would think with such a letter from such a great agency this would have been a slam dunk. Of course they cannot name this agency, (cough, cough) even though in the beginning they said they would.

They were also going to sue ING Bank if they did not meet their demand to re-open their bank accounts. Hmm, ING Bank did not re-open their bank accounts, and of course not a peep about them suing ING Bank to do business with them. There are a few who still want to believe this is real and support them at MMG, but they have more guests reading the thread than they have members posting.

The wheels came off this bus a few miles back, but the members haven't noticed it yet; but they soon will. Their last update was a real laugher, but the faithful thought it was brilliant.

stfwlk
11-01-2014, 04:06 AM
PlanB4you has lost a lot of faith in Belgium and the Netherlands, the countries where the scam began and where it's pushing hardest:

Alexa ranking for The Netherlands on october 9th: 284, today: 486
Alexa ranking for Belgium on october 9th: 277, today: 536

And losing rank every day. This scam is on it's way down. Granted, you could have made a buck if you entered at the start of the year and withdrew or withdraw in time. But you'd be a fool to put or keep money in it now. Don't count on getting anything back when it all falls down, Johny has been declared bankrupt before.

littleroundman
11-02-2014, 06:59 AM
http://imageshack.com/a/img540/1617/hJoRT8.jpg

* Visitor numbers are dropping fast

* Most visitors are returning current members, not coming from search engines.

* Belgian and Netherlands Alexa rating diving

* Falling numbers + Christmas approaching = you are crazy if you join now.

stfwlk
12-02-2014, 06:40 AM
Payments have now surpassed the 60 day delay, which was the maximum that was mentioned in the terms and conditions.

Members started complaining, so Johny bought time by claiming the 60 days are WORK days. Basically adding about 20 days to the maximum delay.

Nowhere in the Terms and Conditions is it mentioned that these 60 days are work days. But PlanB has stealthily changed the terms before, so I wouldn't be surprised if they do mention it in the near future.

NikSam
12-02-2014, 07:17 AM
... claiming the 60 days are WORK days. Basically adding about 20 days to the maximum delay.
...
Nope, you still got it wrong :)
in HYIP terms a day means 24 hours, during which they work only 8 hours a day so 24 hours WORK day is 3 WEEKDAYS ;)

Its been done before, of course they can reduce their working hours per day :)

Whip
12-02-2014, 08:40 AM
Nope, you still got it wrong :)
in HYIP terms a day means 24 hours, during which they work only 8 hours a day so 24 hours WORK day is 3 WEEKDAYS ;)

Its been done before, of course they can reduce their working hours per day :)


then it will be 60 consecutive holidays in the country of their choice. lol

NikSam
12-02-2014, 11:34 PM
then it will be 60 consecutive holidays in the country of their choice. lol

"Black december" its is called, a holiday which lasts about that in the ponziland :)

stfwlk
12-06-2014, 05:40 AM
There was a ruling in a case PlanB4you started against the Dutch state yesterday (december 5th). PlanB4you is being very quiet about it and on the web, people are saying they lost it. We'll have to wait 6 weeks for the verdict to become public. It was about a bank account and a car that were blocked / impounded by the government supposedly.

littleroundman
12-06-2014, 06:35 AM
There was a ruling in a case PlanB4you started against the Dutch state yesterday (december 5th). PlanB4you is being very quiet about it and on the web, people are saying they lost it. We'll have to wait 6 weeks for the verdict to become public. It was about a bank account and a car that were blocked / impounded by the government supposedly.

Six weeks ???

That has got to be the longest Sinterklaas holiday in history

NikSam
12-06-2014, 08:09 AM
There was a ruling in a case PlanB4you started against the Dutch state yesterday (december 5th). PlanB4you is being very quiet about it and on the web, people are saying they lost it. We'll have to wait 6 weeks for the verdict to become public. It was about a bank account and a car that were blocked / impounded by the government supposedly.
I think it is something to do about ING bank freezing their account.
And some Nonsense about US SEC and some "screening" company assertion that it is not a ponzi.

links:
https://www.facebook.com/planb4youint/posts/1548066925423945
https://www.facebook.com/planb4youint/posts/1577398232490814

Whip
12-06-2014, 08:47 AM
lol. at them doing it 'on request' of the scammer. And why a need to go on an offensive if you are legit? And have a forensic accountant verifying everything "at your request"?

littleroundman
12-06-2014, 09:43 AM
http://imageshack.com/a/img913/883/CvykHZ.jpg

Johny Schabregs and the Planb4You Team (https://www.facebook.com/planb4youint/posts/1548066925423945) statement on the Planb4youint page on Facebook

http://imageshack.com/a/img908/3675/cOFVJA.jpg

Johny Schabregs and team (https://www.facebook.com/planb4youint/posts/1577398232490814) statement on the Planb4youint page on Facebook

EagleOne
12-06-2014, 02:19 PM
Johny mentioned in one of his updates that the funds held in ING Bank and PayPal had been released, and claimed it was some kind of major victory. What he didn't mention is that PayPal and ING Bank did not re-open their bank accounts, and he did not sue ING Bank to do business with pb4y as he claimed they would do if they didn't. His updates are a laugh a minute. I have been having a lot of fun with them at MMG and told Johny he needed to get the daily rate above 0.50 Euro if he wanted any chance of this surviving. Now what is truly funny is that he bumped it above 0.50 Euro and it has only been below that daily rate once. His last daily rate was 1 Euro! Almost fell off my chair laughing.

Johny said in his update that the hearing that was continued was to be heard the second week of December. It now seems that the hearing was on Dec 5 and a ruling issued. Johny doesn't want the outcome of this hearing known or he knows it is over. He is trying to hang on until the first of the new year to come up with some new cock and bull story. I'm sure this ruling is available from the Dutch courts, and it won't take 6 weeks to get it either.

EagleOne
12-07-2014, 08:36 PM
It has been said that the court case that was held on 12/5 will have the ruling posted here: Home - www.rechtspraak.nl (http://www.rechtspraak.nl) and is available in English some time next week, not 6 weeks as earlier stated. I think Johny was the one saying it would be 6-weeks so he could keep the ruling secret until after Christmas. He forgets this is the Internet and if it is out there it will be reported with or without him. It seems there may be a bank account that is still frozen, so looking forward to reading the ruling to see if this is true or not.

EagleOne
12-12-2014, 02:26 AM
Well, Johny has just released his latest update, and it seems he lied about the ING Bank account and PayPal account being released. Here is his latest update:

UPDATE ON PLANB4YOU AND THE AGENCIES/AUTHORITIES
PlanB4You
Geplaatst door Johny Schabregs do, december 11, 2014 16:31:27

This week was the ruling on the formal complaint; that had been filed with the Court by Planb4you about 2.5 weeks ago. As already mentioned in previous news updates, this ruling has nothing to do with the investigation of Planb4you, but more about that later in this update. We want to stress once again that as far as the updates on Planb4you go, you should look on the official site via Johny Schabregs blog. (PlanB4You (http://planb4you.tokojohny.be)). There is at this time incomplete, and totally incorrect information being spread by 'opponents' of Planb4you about its progress. That these 'opponents' claim to be a reliable source is sad. However, they have not succeeded in their quest as we have previously pointed out. You now know that Planb4you is fully transparent and so please only follow our official communications.

Well now, the Judge has decided not to proceed any further with the formal complaint and instead to wait for the full case to be eventually brought to trial, which we had expected.
What does this mean for Planb4you?

First Planb4you can and will continue with its activities, and that is, of course, good news. We have always said that Planb4you is 100% legal, so for us this was not new. If it were illegal, we would have immediately been forbidden to continue with our activities!

Planb4you is (still) unable to get access to a portion of their funds, but this certainly does not endanger the business in any way. It just means that a number of projects will be delayed (including the opening of the Toko 's ). We have not lost this money, as there is no question that it has been confiscated; it is just temporarily parked and may be released once definite judgement has been made.

Payments are being made and will continue to be made. Planb4you has risen above this 'sickness' and everything shows that Planb4you is healthier than ever before. (Do you realize how special Planb4you is because what company would still carry on? They probably would have ceased to exist through all of this harrassment. There are plenty of regretful and disappointed people that belonged to such companies, who are now Planb4you members. It is quite understandable that you were worried and sensitive to all those negative messages, just human nature ).

The Planb4you shop is in full swing, and we see a dramatic increase in orders. Here too, we continue to expand, and we can assure you that in the not too distant future, a webshop will exist that is unparalleled! People will want to join Planb4you just for the webshop.

Planb4you will be profiling more internationally. Starting in January, we plan to organize events in various countries where we will deepen the concept further and give the opportunity to hold meeting and ask questions.

We can also tell you with certainty that the first Toko Johny will now open in January and the second and third shortly afterwards. A little later than planned, but better than opening when they do not function properly and are not furnished as desired. You can all witness this, via Johny Schabregs blog. Of course, we had been tempted to mention an earlier date, but we could not deliver, for which our excuses. But it is a delay and not a cancellation.

Finally, we want to come back to the situation with the aforementioned authorities and our ongoing struggle. There was underlined above, eventually be brought to trial, yes, you read it right, because the authorities have not found any proof to support their allegations, at this time.

We've also had meetings with several top experts in the field of the FIOD (the Dutch Fiscal Information and Investigation Service), experts in the fight against these agencies. They also looked into the concept and operations of Planb4you. Their conclusion was that the final trial could still be years from now if ever there is a trial. The methods and this desperate, almost embarrassing quest to eventually, find no evidence, shows this also, according to them. They also gave the following advice:

* go on with what you're doing with Planb4you and make it a big success.
* always try by using simple language to explain the concept to the authorities because they still do not understand it.
* Register negative coverage about Planb4you, but do not react, because this is all they need, and it will only give strength to the negativity. Believe in this unique concept and let this concept do its job. The authorities are, of course, very narrow minded and steadfast in their old-fashioned beliefs.
* Prepare yourself for more of these unjust actions because you are not there yet. However, time is on your side.

We have, therefore, been reaffirmed on what we already knew. At the moment, we see and hear a lot of positive reactions about Planb4you. More and more people have come to realise that Planb4you is not only a completely new concept, but one that continues. For many people, Planb4you has glided through this unjust system and everyone is aware of this.
There has been such great support for the entire team, for which we all really want to thank you!

This time the motto is:
Planb4you has only one way……the highway!
Johny Schabregs and team
PS.
The spectacular end of year action by Planb4you will be announced on 15 December.
PlanB4You
PLANB4YOU.TOKOJOHNY.BE

Just too funny that all their legal problems are "good news." I love how he keeps tossing out these companies that keep saying pb4y is not a Ponzi without naming them. Of course he can't because it is all BS. Wonder what the excuse will be when TokoJohny doesn't launch in January? So far he has missed 3 deadlines of when TokoJohny was to launch. But everything is wonderful and good news!

stfwlk
12-18-2014, 04:50 AM
New end of the year action: "Please don't request any more payouts for a month and use your available PlanB funds to buy new superbricks instead. You can also use new money. All moneys are welcome! Oh and by the way, these new superbricks can't be paid out for a whole year. Kthanksbye!"

I'm really not making this up: PlanB4You (http://planb4you.tokojohny.be/#home)

EagleOne
12-18-2014, 05:46 AM
New end of the year action: "Please don't request any more payouts for a month and use your available PlanB funds to buy new superbricks instead. You can also use new money. All moneys are welcome! Oh and by the way, these new superbricks can't be paid out for a whole year. Kthanksbye!"

I'm really not making this up: PlanB4You (http://planb4you.tokojohny.be/#home)

The person who made that post was being sarcastic about Johny and pb4y.

stfwlk
12-18-2014, 05:51 AM
More news: Dutch news channels are reporting the following:

"AMSTERDAM - Het Openbaar Ministerie heeft beslag gelegd op bankrekeningen van het bedrijf PlanB4you. De firma wordt verdacht van oplichting via een soort piramidespel en witwassen. Dat heeft het functioneel parket van het OM donderdag bekendgemaakt. Vermoed wordt dat PlanB4you zich bezighield met zogenoemde ponzifraude, te vergelijken met een piramidespel. Duizenden mensen in Nederland, Duitsland, België, Slovenie en Italië hebben de afgelopen maanden geld ingelegd. Dat zou anders zijn besteed dan werd beloofd. Het OM heeft voor in totaal 2,5 miljoen euro beslag gelegd bij PlanB4you en zijn directeur. De Fiscale Inlichtingen- en Opsporingsdienst (FIOD) heeft in augustus al zes panden in Nederland en België doorzocht. Daarbij zijn ook zeven auto's in beslag genomen, waaronder een Maserati, een Jeep en een Porsche. (Novum)"

Translation: The authorities impounded 2,5 million euros and seven cars (among which Maserati, Jeep, Porche) because PlanB is suspected to be a ponzifraud. I guess they communicated about the trial date on december fifth.

littleroundman
12-18-2014, 06:18 AM
The original as seen by Google Translate (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.refdag.nl%2Fnieuws%2Fanp%2Fecon omie%2Fbeslaglegging_bij_bedrijf_achter_piramidesp el_1_878277&edit-text=)


http://imageshack.com/a/img538/5894/RR5U1x.jpg

NikSam
12-18-2014, 10:44 AM
Haha, "het functionee parket van het OM" was translated to "the functional parquet of the OM" :)

Should be "the representative of the prosecutor general's office" :)

EagleOne
12-18-2014, 02:50 PM
Amazing at how silent the pb4y thread at MMG has become with this news! :RpS_lol: Not a pimp in sight, or any believers so far. Of course the major pimps bailed on this a while ago, larana immediately comes to mind. I was just surprised that zoezeth/Alfed stayed the course pimping it as hard as he could. Either he didn't get the memo or was paid to stay and post.

It will be interesting to see who does come back and post about this turn of events that we all knew was coming, or Johny was going to run at the end of the year. At least Johny had a couple of months to enjoy all his new cars. :RpS_lol:

stfwlk
02-20-2015, 12:13 PM
Johny was taken in custody today.

Google translate:
FIOD Wednesday in Rotterdam held the Director of PlanB4You in the criminal investigation into the alleged Ponzi fraud by the company. The magistrate in Amsterdam today asked him to 14 days in custody.

The director is suspected of fraud, offering a pyramid while this is in conflict with the law on gambling and the laundering of the proceeds therefrom. The money the participants put in at PlanB4you would otherwise be spent than promised. The presumption is that the returns are paid from the deposits of other participants. Of significant buying and selling activity by PlanB4you is probably not the case, there would therefore be no efficiency achieved with the deposited funds. There private expenditure of the revenue would be done, such as the purchase of expensive cars.

Crime does not pay
The FP had already seized the bank accounts of the company PlanB4You and the bank accounts of the director. Thousands of people in countries including the Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, Slovenia and Italy have money in recent months inlaid with PlanB4you. Research by the FIOD show that the accused despite the batters presumably continued to offer the pyramid through PlanB4You.

littleroundman
02-20-2015, 08:07 PM
De Telegraaf (http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/23710646/__Directeur_vast_voor_piramidespel__.html) report of the arrest (Google translated)

http://imageshack.com/a/img903/1788/tFYPhR.jpg

stfwlk
04-13-2015, 09:07 AM
Website was taken down, now displays a message that it's "temporary unavailable because of the investigation".

Guess it's finally all over now. Because it was still running with Johny in jail. They even opened up one of their restaurants two weeks ago. And they were going to open another one next week. Some members still believed in it.

stfwlk
06-04-2015, 09:30 AM
Custody was renewed for 90 days.
Researchers found a document that Johny gave his programmer on which the "daily profits" for the whole next month were written down. So the daily profits were bullshit all along.
In august last year, PlanB already owed 22 million EUR to the members (it went on for another 7/8 months after that).

Above info comes from a PlanB promotor who went to the trial, so might not be a 100% correct.