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Soapboxmom
10-29-2010, 07:23 PM
Grammar Faculty and Staff | Coram Deo Academy (http://www.coramdeoacademy.org/content/grammar-faculty-and-staff)

Grammar Faculty and Staff

Administration

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Charlotte Campbell
Grammar School Director
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Mary Kaszynski
Admission Coordinator
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Michael Ouille
Facilities






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Stephanie Weinzierl
3rd Grade

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I am shocked that someone with her background is on the faculty of that respectable educational institution. She was part of the group of people falsely claiming to have been stalked by me. Her family name is on www.heatherdobrott.com (http://www.heatherdobrott.com)and that should raise serious concern. She has been involved in several MLM scams where income claims, the true nature of the opportunities and the chances of success have been misrepresented.

I would be happy to e-mail court documents to anyone that contacts me.

Soapboxmom

Unsaved Trash
10-29-2010, 08:41 PM
It's OK SBM. The Coran Deo Academy is a non-profit Christian organization. See?


Coram Deo Academy is incorporated in the State of Texas as a non-profit corporation, exempt under section 501(c)3 of the IR Code. Charitable contributions made to CDA are tax deductible.

CDA is governed by a Board of Directors that under God seeks to develop policies and approaches consistent with the Word of God for the glory of God.

Of course the average tuition is only averaging around $8K per year (between $5,355 and $10,790). I've always admired how everything religious based costs so much. New Student Tuition & Fees | Coram Deo Academy (http://www.coramdeoacademy.org/content/tuition-and-fees)

Soapboxmom
10-29-2010, 09:09 PM
Rodney Marshall's Biography | Coram Deo Academy (http://www.coramdeoacademy.org/content/rodney-marshalls-biography)

Rodney Marshall's Biography

Co-Founder

http://www.coramdeoacademy.org/sites/default/files/filemanager/Staff%20Pictures/Admin%20Pictures/Rodney%20Marshall.jpgRodney’s career of Christian leadership began in High School, serving on the school council and as senior class president. During his commencement speech, he spoke on Corinthian’s Chapter 13, saying “I have found the truth and the truth has set me free. As says first Corinthians 13:1 “If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but I do not have love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal…“
As his high school’s Varsity Baseball Captain and Division MVP, he went on to play NCAA Division 1 at Washington State University, hoping eventually to compete in the Major Leagues. His baseball career was cut short due to an injury; and to that injury he attributes a “dramatic re-firing of [his] Christian faith.” It was then that he found a fresh calling to advance the Kingdom.
He graduated with honors from Washington State University’s College of Business and Economics; and went on to earn his Masters of Divinity and Master of Arts. Mr. Marshall is currently pursuing a Doctor of Education.
Rodney became an ordained minister and has served as an associate pastor and as a Presbyterian elder. He came to work for School of Tomorrow as Director of Global Development and Youth Programs and as a public speaker for Christian Financial Concepts. Helping to build academies worldwide, Rodney spoke in locations such as Zambia, Russia and the Philippines. He used these opportunities to meet with chief government officials discussing the liberation of private and Christian education. “It was a remarkable time of worldwide education and influence. I found that Christians on every continent greatly desire a Christian education for their children.”
It was at this time that the Marshall’s were approached and asked to create Coram Deo Academy. They knew that the multiple years students spend in school deeply affect their future; and so they answered the call to educate youth in an historic classical Christian Worldview.
While launching the school, Rodney Marshall was still working for Christian Financial Concepts. That first fall, he travelled to and spoke in every Canadian Province, “burning the candle at all 3 ends.” The Marshall’s both spent and still spend hours speaking on education, its value and purpose. During Coram Deo Academy’s first few years, Rodney and Robi put their money where their mouths were, placing the cost of the school on their personal credit cards.
Now that over ten years have passed and Coram Deo has grown from 57 students to beyond a thousand, Rodney and Robi have gone on to create a consulting business for classical Christian schools aspiring to take the renewal of classical Christian education “from boutique to bodacious.” Because as Mr. Marshall says, “Transformative education is the best way to transform the future.”
Rodney Marshall's Articles and Speeches
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Perhaps, Mr. Marshall and his staff should care enough to carefully check out who they are hiring to instruct these vulnerable young kids. Haven't they heard of Google?? He should search her name, Stephanie Weinzierl and perhaps add Quatloos to the search and find out the truth and see how she has shown her love for others. The truth would set those children free and see them under different tutelage.

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Soapboxmom
10-29-2010, 09:31 PM
Funny that Stephanie didn't supply them with a picture. She has pictures of herself plastered on blogs and websites all across the net for the scams she promotes. Her friends sure didn't have any trouble putting up numerous pictures of little ol' me photoshopped in all sorts of ways that were very hurtful to the other people whose photos were stolen. Her choice of business associates tells us exactly what kind of person she really is. As an educator myself having a degree in secondary and higher education, I can say without hesitation I would never allow my children to be in a classroom with that woman as I have dilligently researched and sought out the truth.

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Soapboxmom
10-30-2010, 09:01 AM
School Notes Overview:



Coram Deo Academy educates youth in an historic Christian worldview through a vigorous, classical curriculum. The goal of CDA is to train ethical leaders and wise thinkers who will shape culture for the glory of God.


I hardly find Stephanie's involvement in fabricated stalking allegations, MLM scams and flaunting a house of cards as ethical. Her voluminous online presence documents all of this. She was seen in numerous videos with million dollar mansions, extravagant cars and clothes where dishonest earnings claims were made to the unsuspecting public. Funny those have been disappearing. The warm marks were told of how the latest and greatest MLM was built with integrity and would be a long term deal when she was just another serial MLM jump and dump professional. Christians were targeted and left in financial ruin by the deals she promoted.

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Soapboxmom
10-30-2010, 04:10 PM
Acts 17:30 (New International Version)

30In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent.

Luke 13:3 (New International Version)

3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.


New American Standard Bible (http://nasb.scripturetext.com/luke/19.htm) (©1995) (http://www.lockman.org/)
Zaccheus stopped and said to the Lord, "Behold, Lord, half of my possessions I will give to the poor, and if I have defrauded anyone of anything, I will give back four times as much."
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Stephanie should read and pray about those verses. It is high time those that were harmed are made whole! God is watching! There will be accountability! Repentance is His command!

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Soapboxmom
11-01-2010, 10:30 PM
A good education doesn't just impart knowledge. A good education teaches one how to find out what they do not know.


Please go here and type in Stephanie Weinzierl. The public land records will be very enlightening.
Welcome to 20/20 Perfect Vision Land Records I2 (http://216.60.44.147/TX/Denton/)#

Please type in Stephanie Weinzierl here and note that the bank paid the money in that lawsuit, not her.
http://justice1.dentoncounty.com/PublicAccess/Search.aspx?ID=200&NodeID=1,1100,1101,1102,1250,1251,1252,1253,1254,1 255,1256,1300,1310,1320,1330,1340,1350,1360&NodeDesc=All%20Courts%20Search


Public Access to Court Electronic Records (http://www.pacer.gov/)
is a wealth of information from district, bankruptcy and federal courts nationwide and will provide more facts for those seeking the truth.

One can also go to Google and type in "Stephanie Weinzierl multi-million dollar."

Go forth and seek the truth. It will set us all free!!! Please contact me if you have any questions.

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
11-02-2010, 09:23 AM
John 8:32
and you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

Leviticus 6:1-4, "And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, If a soul sin, and commit a trespass against the LORD, and lie unto his neighbour…or hath deceived his neighbour…and lieth concerning it, and sweareth falsely; in any of all these that a man doeth, sinning therein: Then it shall be, because he hath sinned, and is guilty,"

Leviticus 19:11, "Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another."


Psalms 52:2-4, "Thy tongue deviseth mischiefs; like a sharp razor, working deceitfully. Thou lovest evil more than good; and lying rather than to speak righteousness. Selah. Thou lovest all devouring words, O thou deceitful tongue."

Psalms 101:7, "He that worketh deceit shall not dwell within my house: he that telleth lies shall not tarry in my sight."

Proverbs 10:18, "He that hideth hatred with lying lips, and he that uttereth a slander, is a fool."

Proverbs 12:19, "The lip of truth shall be established for ever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment."

Proverbs 12:22, "Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight."

Proverbs 13:5, "A righteous man hateth lying: but a wicked man is loathsome, and cometh to shame."

Proverbs 14:5, "A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies."

Proverbs 14:25, "A true witness delivereth souls: but a deceitful witness speaketh lies."

Proverbs 17:4, "A wicked doer giveth heed to false lips; and a liar giveth ear to a naughty tongue."

Proverbs 17:7, "Excellent speech becometh not a fool: much less do lying lips a prince."

Proverbs 19:5, "A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall not escape."

Proverbs 19:9, "A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish."

Proverbs 19:22, "The desire of a man is his kindness: and a poor man is better than a liar."

Proverbs 21:6, "The getting of treasures by a lying tongue is a vanity tossed to and fro of them that seek death."

Proverbs 26:28, "A lying tongue hateth those that are afflicted by it; and a flattering mouth worketh ruin."

Revelation 3:9, "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which…do lie;"

Revelation 21:8, "…and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:"

I invite folks to Google my name, Heather Dobrott, and see what you find. The truth is always good enough!


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Soapboxmom
11-02-2010, 12:21 PM
Baylor University | Texas Teaching University, Texas Teaching School, Texas Teaching Certificate, Texas Teaching Degree || Accreditation Standards (http://www.baylor.edu/soe/index.php?id=66363)



Baylor School of Education Accreditation Standards
......B. All teachers give evidence of a Christian commitment consistent with the philosophy of the school.


** C. The school conducts an annual evaluation process for individual members of the faculty.


D. Professional staff members are employed by contract.


E. Records for faculty members are kept permanently and show service dates, sick leave accumulation, transcripts (showing degree(s) earned), proof of necessary certification, evaluations, and evidence of ongoing professional development.....
** G. The school practices free inquiry and allows students freedom of choice in determining truth. "Free inquiry" means that students are encouraged to seek truth. The teacher has the freedom to proclaim the Bible as truth. Students shall be free to form their own perceptions of truth without coercion.


It is high time for the truth!

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
11-03-2010, 02:23 PM
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Stephanie Weinzierl
3rd Grade

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Well, now we have a picture on the Coram Deo Academy website. That is definitely the same Stephanie whose image has been plastered all over the net for numerous scams next to a Hummer, million dollar mansions etc. while ridiculous earnings claims are made in businesses that are said to be long term deals. Does a few months or a years equal long term? Evolv she was supposed to be in through the Evolv Health Vision 2020: A Decade of HOPE (http://evolvhealthleaders.com/). She Googles up as a multi-million dollar earner with MLM scams, yet if searched on PACER, some very surprising results that prove that to be pure fiction will be available. Google her name and add Quatloos to the search if you wish to narrow the results for more information.

The question is did the school do a thorough check including Google and all court records? Are the parents aware of the various MLM scams she has promoted using folks Christian faith as a means to do so???

John 8:32
and you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
11-03-2010, 04:04 PM
Psalm 106:3
Blessed are they who maintain justice, who constantly do what is right.

Proverbs 28:5
Evil men do not understand justice, but those who seek the LORD understand it fully.

Proverbs 29:7
The righteous care about justice for the poor, but the wicked have no such concern.

Isaiah 1:17
Learn to do right! Seek justice, encourage the oppressed. Defend the cause of the fatherless, plead the case of the widow.

Proverbs 21:15
When justice is done, it brings joy to the righteous but terror to evildoers.

I intend to keep doing the Lord's work seeing that the truth is brought forth. I will work tirelessly to see justice is done.

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Soapboxmom
11-03-2010, 04:12 PM
God can make miracles happen and shysters can use God's name and his son's name to empty folks pockets:

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Miracles For Today
From: GraceSterlingMedia (http://www.youtube.com/user/GraceSterlingMedia) | April 03, 2009 | 135 views

this video was used during Pastor Aaron's (Weinzierl) series for the elementary kids at Zoe Christian School - Jesus Working Through Our Hands

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Soapboxmom
11-03-2010, 05:52 PM
What Is Character Education And How Is It Incorporated Into The Classroom? (http://www.articlesbase.com/education-articles/what-is-character-education-and-how-is-it-incorporated-into-the-classroom-2052469.html)


What Is Character Education And How Is It Incorporated Into The Classroom?


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Character education in schools focuses on the role of the educator in developing moral and ethical behavior in their students. Due to the increase in school violence since the 1990s, character education programs have become gradually more important to school administrators. Teachers are trained to define and identify important character traits. In this training, educators are taught to explore the different theories about moral development. Teachers are essential to the development of character education in schools. With lesson plans, vignettes, and properly prepared curriculums, teachers can apply the concepts that instill character development in their students. Teachers can use these lessons in character education programs while also serving as a respectable model for their students. Beyond lesson plans, it's also effective for teachers to develop and implement classroom activities that promote character development as well.
Character education is not only beneficial in a school environment; it's also useful in the broader community. If the entire community gets involved with character education programs, it will make character education stronger and more effective. The entire school, parents and the community should have an active role. The need for character development in schools goes beyond just solving problems that might arise between students, it can also help people better resolve their own troubles without acting out.
The purpose of character education in schools is to create a moral community in the classroom and outside of the classroom. Teachers have the role of fostering the character of the students, and it's important for the educators that have such influence, to explore the historical perspectives on education.
Within the classroom, conflict resolution should be kept in mind when studying controversial issues. For students to discuss issues in a non-aggressive manner, teachers should first establish guidelines to keep the discussions diplomatic and establish moral ways to discipline students who may become aggressive. When conflict arises, conflict resolution techniques can help develop character as well.
The involvement of parents and the community is vital because whatever discipline, rules, and consequences for breaking the rules that are enforced within the classroom should be practiced and carried out in other areas of the student's life. If every authority figure is not on board with the same system of rules, consequences, and moral discipline, students become confused and may not respond well to character education in schools. It goes beyond the student, because the main goal is to develop a moral culture, not just a moral student.
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I hold a degree in secondary and higher education and I can't stress enough how important the example set is in the professional educator. Those wanting to teach should expect that their background will be thouroughly investigated and that the parents will expect transparency. The safety of our children demands we exhaustively investigate those we trust to care and educate them.





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Soapboxmom
11-03-2010, 07:46 PM
Stephanie Weinzierl is NOT certified to teach in Texas.

If she was here are the grounds for denial or revocation of certification:

Denial or Revocation of Teaching Certificate






Immoral conduct or indecent behavior
INCOMPETENCY
Violations of ethical standards
Unprofessional conduct
Misrepresentation or FRAUD (http://www.enotes.com/wests-law-encyclopedia/fraud)
Willful neglect of duty


A private school has even more latitude in removing teachers from the classroom. Why would a multi-million dollar earner (or not) be teaching???

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Soapboxmom
11-03-2010, 08:06 PM
Moral turpitude ain't what it used to be - Kathleen Parker - Townhall Conservative (http://townhall.com/columnists/KathleenParker/2005/11/26/moral_turpitude_aint_what_it_used_to_be)

If teachers are being let go by private schools for simply being pregnant and unmarried, I would think an internet presence that shows questionable business dealings should get the same attention. Students will do not only what they are told they should do, but what they actually see their elders doing. If the search for the truth about this educator should show anything dishonest in her business dealings it is completely relevant. She is claimed to be a multi-million dollar earner and there are numerous public records which seem to clearly dispute that. Research, post and decide for yourself.

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Soapboxmom
11-03-2010, 08:15 PM
Seen with stripper, suspended (http://www.joannejacobs.com/2010/01/seen-with-stripper-suspended/)
A teacher seen in a photo on someone else's Facebook page was suspended. I think the top promoters of MLMs may be much more immoral and frightening in certain cases. Yikes!!!

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Soapboxmom
11-04-2010, 09:25 AM
Now, come the really hard questions. Do Christians really value truth, transparency and accountability? Are these Christian school actually staffed with folks that are held to a higher standard and that walk the walk that is talked on Sunday morning.

Should MLM schemes prey on Christians and use His word a recruiting tool? Should accountability include compensating victims of MLM scams gone bad? These schemes destroy folks' faith and their trust in their fellow men.

Luke 13:3 (New International Version)

3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.


New American Standard Bible (http://nasb.scripturetext.com/luke/19.htm) (©1995) (http://www.lockman.org/)
Zaccheus stopped and said to the Lord, "Behold, Lord, half of my possessions I will give to the poor, and if I have defrauded anyone of anything, I will give back four times as much."

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Soapboxmom
11-04-2010, 04:26 PM
Here is the website to search for teachers certified to teach in our great state. Thanks to all the wonderful instructors I had over the years that gave me the tools and courage to stand up for what I believe in and find my calling as a consumer advocate.

SBEC Official Record of Educator Certificate Search (http://www.sbec.state.tx.us/sbeconline/virtcert.asp)

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Soapboxmom
11-04-2010, 04:33 PM
One of Stephanie's victims said "evil wife....kept telling me to "believe" and that everything would "work out" in God's time." Certainly, God did not intend for folks to be victimized in MLM scams such as Evolv, Eiro research, My Internet Business and the many others she has hawked to the detriment of so many good trusting Christians. When 97% or more are losing money in these deals and the top promoters like Stephanie just keep jumping and dumping from one to the next there is definitely something unsavory going on. Way too many Godly people have lost their money, faith in God and trust in their fellow man.

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Soapboxmom
11-04-2010, 09:09 PM
MW Class List



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In my opinion as a trained educator, a teacher should not have their own child in their class unless there is no alternative. Mrs. Hargrove also teaches Monday Wednesday 3rd grade classes. That is the sign of a school making very questionable decisions.

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Soapboxmom
11-05-2010, 10:43 AM
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[URL="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Friends-of-Coram-Deo-Academy/169665650803"]Friends of Coram Deo Academy (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Friends-of-Coram-Deo-Academy/169665650803#) All virtue is summed up in dealing justly. Aristotle

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Is the subject of this thread living up to this ideal?

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Soapboxmom
11-05-2010, 09:16 PM
Stephanie Weinzierl and many other so called Christian MLMers preached about how they practice transparency:

Transparent - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/transparent)

trans·par·ent

adj \tran(t)s-ˈper-ənt\
Definition of TRANSPARENT

1
a (1) : having the property of transmitting light without appreciable scattering so that bodies lying beyond are seen clearly : pellucid (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pellucid) (2) : allowing the passage of a specified form of radiation (as X-rays or ultraviolet light) b : fine or sheer enough to be seen through : diaphanous (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/diaphanous)

2
a : free from pretense or deceit : frank (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/frank) b : easily detected or seen through : obvious (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obvious) c : readily understood d : characterized by visibility or accessibility of information especially concerning business (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/transparent#) practices

— trans·par·ent·ly adverb
— trans·par·ent·ness noun
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<bottles of blue transparent glass>
<his meaning in leaving the conversation is transparent: he doesn't want to talk about his combat experiences>

Origin of TRANSPARENT

Middle English, from Medieval Latin transparent-, transparens, present (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/transparent#) participle of transparēre to show through, from Latin trans- + parēre to show oneself First Known Use: 15th century


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Soapboxmom
11-06-2010, 11:39 AM
Both Buyers and Sellers Should Be Wary of Multilevel Marketing (http://www.mlmwatch.org/13Victims/wary.html)
Both Buyers and Sellers Should Be
Wary of Multilevel Marketing

William T. Jarvis, Ph.D.
©1998


Millions of people are selling health products as "independent distributors." Product lines typically include vitamin supplements, weight loss formulas, fiber-containing snack bars, and/or herbal remedies. The National Council Against Health Fraud (NCAHF) has received so many inquiries about such products that it has developed some general caveats. Consumers Beware:


Products sold in this fashion must be overpriced to finance the greedy profits promised to distributors.
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Herbal supplements may contain potent drugs naturally or by adulteration. Herbal supplements are not manufactured or labeled according to the high standards American consumers have come to expect.
Salespeople, with little more than company training and subjective personal experience, may be misrepresented as "health counselors" when their real goal is to sell products and/or sign-up distributors. Selling health products one recommends poses a serious conflict-of-interest even when sellers are qualified and products worthwhile.
Salespeople are encouraged* to make oral health claims while companies seek deniability for themselves via fine print disclaimers. *Heroic anecdotes to be repeated in sales pitches are promulgated at pep rallies and/or in company publications.
Prospective Distributors Beware:


Multilevel marketing entices unwary people with the "sweet dream of success."
MLMs are driven largely by greed. The idea of working hard for a while, building up a substantial down-line sales system, and watching the money roll in, is appealing, but is "too good to be true." Literature of the NuSkin company claimed that distributors could make $5,000 to $10,000 per month, but 98% of all distributors earned an average of $38 a month [1]. Even the well-established Amway company has not been able to deliver on the sweet dream for most of its people. In the mid-1990s, the company had 14,000 employees, over 3 million distributors internationally, and global sales of $7 billion. Yet the average monthly gross income of "active" Amway representatives was less than $90.
Some multilevel marketing programs are illegal pyramid schemes.
A focus upon new distributor recruitment in hopes of sharing in their commissions can cause multilevel marketing programs to become illegal pyramid schemes. An important legal criterion is that in pyramid schemes, most of the products become inventory in the hands of hopeful distributors instead of being bought and used by consumers. Thus, the unwitting, hopeful distributor may be victimized twice. First as one stuck with goods that have little chance of being sold, and second, as one stigmatized by having been a part of an illegal business operation.
You may unwittingly become involved in quackery.
A master in the art of quackery could not have devised a more effective way to turn ordinary people into quacks. First, studies have consistently shown that the primary marketing route for multilevel schemes—word-of-mouth via friends, relatives and neighbors—is the most common way people come to try quack remedies. Second, using testimonials as proof of effectiveness is quackery's most common means of persuasion. A basic tenet of salesmanship is that to succeed you must believe in your product. Successful salespeople wanna-bes are told to become users so they can say "it works for me!" Third, quacks encourage the faulty validation of personal experience. Placebo effects alone are enough for a highly-motivated person to find something positive about the product. In the case of herbals, the naturally-occurring drugs that many herbs contain may give users a high, exert a tranquilizing effect, or produce some other pharmacological reaction. The drug-effect combined with the "sweet dream of financial success" cause users to make exaggerated claims for their products. Although individuals may control the extent of the claims he/she makes, it is easy to be deceived by one's lack of medical knowledge and personal zealotry. Fourth, distributors are often taught to defend the company against alleged "persecution" by the FDA or others engaged in consumer protection. This type of siege mentality is another well established attribute of quackery.
You may pay a high social price.
Because multilevel marketing is aimed at friends, relatives and neighbors, a distributor can easily become persona non grata. In 1987 Money Magazine reported on a woman who became so aggressive that she was thrown out of a PTA meeting. It took her a year to restore her good name in the community. Before becoming involved in multilevel marketing, you should consider how much value you place upon your good name. A short-term financial gain may not be worth what it cost in long-term loss of social status.
Doctors who become distributors may be guilty of unprofessional conduct.
Distributors who are health professionals can easily abuse the unequal doctor-patient relationship by exerting undue influence, a form of unprofessional conduct. Also, many MLM companies eventually run afoul of the law. When they do, distributors are likely to be stigmatized. In common-sense terms this is known as: "if you want to dance, you must pay the piper!" Some professional groups specifically prohibit members from selling products directly to patients. The unavoidable conflict of interest that is created by a situation in which a health care provider profits directly from a patient is obvious. Just how perverse financial self-interest can be was shown by a physician who told a Registered Dietitian that if she did not recommend the brand of vitamins that he was selling, he would no longer refer patients to her for dietary counseling. Dietary counseling was one of her primary jobs at the hospital, and a lack of patient referrals could mean loss of employment for her.
Teachers and coaches who use their positions to influence students and athletes abuse their social status.
NCAHF has received numerous complaints from parents, students, former students, and athletes whose teachers and/or coaches have attempted to recruit them as customers and/or distributors. Some teacher distributors have become so deluded that they have used parent-teacher conferences as opportunities to sell products alleging that these would improve the student's academic performance. The lack of ethics of such conduct speaks for itself.
Dr. Jarvis, now retired, was Professor of Public Health and Preventive Medicine, School of Medicine and Public Health, Loma Linda University and President of the National Council Against Health Fraud. This article can be reprinted with proper credit.
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Before Oasis Christian Fellowship imploded I am told there were solicitations for the scams Stephanie was involved in. And, apparently, the church was counting on large donations based on such sales according to my source.

Many other churches in this area have been torn apart by these scams and the accompanying scandals. She has been involved in over a dozen MLMs in rapid fire succession to the detriment of hundreds of victims, some that suffered the loss of what was their life savings. Those MLMs left folks bankrupt, in foreclosure and desperate financial straights in some instances. That goes totally against the ethical obligations (http://info.sos.state.tx.us/pls/pub/readtac$ext.TacPage?sl=R&app=9&p_dir=&p_rloc=&p_tloc=&p_ploc=&pg=1&p_tac=&ti=19&pt=7&ch=247&rl=2)of an educator.

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11-09-2010, 09:59 AM
I believe the time for the really hard questions has come. Stephanie Weinzierl's name appeared in a number of the 126 court documents I had posted on Scribd.com. These were filings that clearly showed her MLM activites, financial dealings, misleading ads she appeared in and promoted and so much more. Surprisingly, even though there was no court order, these documents were removed. Scrbd.com had been threatened and lied to and apparently in an effort to avoid costly frivolent litigation removed every document I had posted. This is America. Free speech and open access to court filings and public documents I thought were a given.

People with something to hide, however, are going to be especially anxious to see such truthful and factual documents disappear from the internet. Unfortunately for them, they are all still available and I will be posting all those and many more when the time is right. What happened to all her talk of having faith, being transparent and it will happen in God's time and on and on? Did the ridiculous promotions of being a multi-million dollar earner while floundering in hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt cause her to fear repercussions for the blatant misrepresentations? Did she believe that she could hide the truth? Did she really think all the shenanigans would be forgotten? Did she think her victims who are still struggling financially don't deserve her help? Has she really read and put what the bible says in practice?

Think for a moment about the string of million dollar mansions and castles in Castle Hill she has lived in while her victims faced foreclosure and financial ruin in some cases. Think about the huge losses the banks suffered paying the tens of thousands in taxes and hundreds of thousands in losses from her folly. Think of her victims having to watch her in countless videos showing off the mansions, Hummers, Mercedes, luxurious home swimming pools, extravagant clothing and the bragging about meals at expensive restaurants. None if this seems the least bit honest or Christian to me.

Deut. 15:7. If there is a poor man among you, one of your brothers, in any of the towns of the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart, nor close your hand to your poor brother; but you shall freely open your hand to him, and generously lend him sufficient for his need in whatever he lacks.


Lev. 19:19ff. Now when you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap to the very corners of your field, neither shall you gather the gleanings of your harvest. Nor shall you glean your vineyard, nor shall you gather the fallen fruit of your vineyard; you shall leave them for the needy and for the stranger. I am the LORD your God.

Is. 58:66ff. Is this not the fast which I choose, to loosen the bonds of wickedness, to undo the bands of the yoke, and to let the oppressed go free, and break every yoke? Is it not to divide your bread with the hungry, and bring the homeless poor into the house; when you see the naked, to cover him, and not to hide yourself from your own flesh?

Jer. 22:3. Do justice and righteousness, and deliver the one who has been robbed from the power of his oppressor. Also do not mistreat or do violence to the stranger, the orphan, or the widow; and do not shed innocent blood in this place.

Luke 12:33. "Sell your possessions and give to charity; make yourselves purses which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near, nor moth destroys."

Luke 3:11. And [John the Baptist] would answer and say to them, "Let the man with two tunics share with him who has none, and let him who has food do likewise."

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Coram Deo Academy may not be exercising due care in their background checks of teachers. One educator has a very alarming internet presence that includes claims of being a multi-million dollar earner. Court records available on PACER, Denton County and Collin County contradict that. Christian faith was being used as a recruiting tool. Many recruits suffered financial harm. I hope in the future Coram Deo will be much more careful when hiring. I think teachers, in my humble opinion anyway, should embody what they are preaching to their students.

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11-09-2010, 04:00 PM
Stephanie was a glorified prosperity preacher from hell. There was talk of God purposing folks to live in abundance. That turned into God creating millionaires to show the world what one who serves him would get. There was talk of how others chose to live in scarcity and how she would be a blessing to others.

So much for that. Now, she is drowning in debt and many of her victims are struggling to recover financially as well. Worse, of course, is that many lost their faith and no longer will attend church. Some have lost their trust in their fellow man. Certainly her claims of what God wanted her to do were really the $$$$$$$$ talking.

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By Eric Nicholson (http://www.prestonhollowpeople.com/author/eric-nicholson/) Jun. 23, 2010 | 4:13 pm | 4 Comments (http://www.prestonhollowpeople.com/2010/06/23/council-says-no-to-coram-deo-liberty-institute-lawyer-claims-violation-of-federal-law/#comments) | Comments RSS (http://www.prestonhollowpeople.com/2010/06/23/council-says-no-to-coram-deo-liberty-institute-lawyer-claims-violation-of-federal-law/feed/)
The City Council’s hearing on Hillcrest Church’s application for a specific-use permit (http://www.prestonhollowpeople.com/2010/06/23/hillcrest-church-fight-moves-to-council-today/) to house Coram Deo Academy was, as expected, contentious. Neighbors lined up to reiterate their historic distrust of the church and concerns over traffic. Supporters of Coram Deo spoke about the positive impact the school will have, both on students and Dallas as a whole, and the importance of schools in civic life.
What was less expected was the appearance on the scene of Hiram Sasser, an attorney with the conservative, pro-religious freedom Liberty Institute (which features the zoning battle on the front page of its website (http://libertyinstitute.org/index.php)), who represented the church and school at the hearing. Sasser challenged the council’s right to do anything but approve the specific-use permit, citing the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act.
“You’re required to pass this SUP,” Sasser said. “There’s really no choice to be had.”
Theresa O’Donnell, director of development services, quoting city code that the “applicant has the burden to demonstrate that [the SUP] is harmonious and compatible with the surrounding neighorhood.”
Councilwoman Linda Koop, whose district Hillcrest Church is in, said allowing a school to operate in the church would add traffic to an already congested Churchill Way. She held up a binder of 150 e-mails she had received from her constituents opposing Hillcrest’s plan (the city’s official count: of 108 notices sent out, three were returned in favor, 68 in opposition). Given the overwhelming opposition of neighbors, she said the “harmonious and compatible” stipulation was not met.
“When you set these precedents, you have to be very careful,” Koop said. “You have to think about what the ramifications will be.”
The council voted unanimously to deny the SUP application.
Following the hearing, Hillcrest Church pastor Mark Brand said church leaders would meet with their attorneys to decide the next step. But no one’s ruling out a lawsuit in federal court.
“While city ordinance says one thing, federal law says something else, which I understand trumps city ordinance,” Sasser said.


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The residents are up in arms and for good reason! I wouldn't want this questionable bunch anywhere near my neighborhood.

Fireworks at Dallas City Hall!!!

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11-10-2010, 10:33 PM
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Posted on June 23rd, 2010 12:00pm by Candy Evans (candye@dmagazine.com)
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And do they hide behind the Religious Land Use Institutionalized Persons Act of 2000 way too much?
I ask because Highland Park Presbyterian has been giving neighbors heartburn (http://www.parkcitiespeople.com/2010/05/04/neighbors-get-louder-as-hppc-readies-to-rezone/)over wanting to expand its parking — by tearing down one of several homes the church owns. Can you imagine anything more inane when we need more grass, less concrete, and more tax revenue for the city? Here’s a novel idea: walk to church!
Then today the Dallas City Council meets about that devilish Trinity Hillcrest Church (http://hillcrestchurch.blogspot.com/)up at Hillcrest and Willow Lane. Hillcrest already has bad blood with the neighborhood from when it expanded back in 2002, which the neighbors bitterly opposed. But the church began stealthily buying homes in the ‘hood — not cheap homes, I tell you, upwards of half a million. Neighbors worried, squealed, the City Plan Commission denied the expansion, but Hillcrest hired some savvy attorneys and had their way. So then the neighbors hired an attorney… yadayadayada. Parties settled but the homeowners claimed at a recent meeting that Hillcrest has still not completed it’s landscape/fence plan. The church says no can do, it has fallen on tough financial times. Residents at the home owners meeting I attended say that could be because the last minister allegedly ran off with one of the parishoners —- hanky panky while doing God’s work — which put a downer on the church mood, as parishioners left.
Now Hillcrest wants to fill its coffers by leasing space to a “private Christian school” called Coram Deo Academy (http://www.coramdeoacademy.org/). Maximum attendance of 250 kids, but the homeowners are suspicious. Eric Nicholson at Preston Hollow People diligently reported that when pressed, Hillcrest attorney John Fowler (whose children attend the school) “acknowledged that as many as 500 students could be enrolled at one time.”
And, as Eric reported (May 14 issue, go buy it!) Plan Commissioner Bruce Bernbaum and fellow commissioners were ticked off by the school’s application because it made no mention of Coram Deo and didn’t fit the objectives of a special-use permit — especially when one hundred people from the neighborhood were objecting.
At the meeting I attended — they were hot!
Alas. Coram Deo is moving ahead and plans to take the case to Federal Court if the Dallas City Council says no today. Forget Fourth of July Fireworks (http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2010/06/23/no-money-no-fireworks-dallas-says-ctd/), I bet there will be fireworks at City Hall today!
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Litigious religious zealots going to federal court to force themselves on the unwilling homeowneres who want no part of their program. Really Godly! I am sure the homeowners have a good idea what kind of people they will have in their midst knowing what I know about Stephanie Weinzierl and her little gang. I wouldn't want that in my neighborhood either.

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11-15-2010, 01:31 PM
Should any Christian promote an MLM business or outright scam for that matter as Christ-centered and or God-ordained? Is that honest? Is that ethical? What if God has called on me to to expose such opportunites? Could He have also wanted His Word used to entice folks into businesses with a 97% or higher loss rate???

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11-16-2010, 03:51 PM
I think Brian David Mitchell's use of religion and faith to justify his actions is mirrored by the Stephanie Weinzierl's of the world in their attempts to lure marks into their MLM businesses and scams. Both can destroy the faith, spirit and trust of folks. One physically abused his victim and the other finacially abused her victims. Using religion, faith and the Word of God is just plain wrong.

Mitchell to police: God 'delivered' Smart to me - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/11/15/utah.elizabeth.smart.trial/index.html)

Stephanie was into sharing some nonsense about "prayerful consideration" and following God's plan. Bible verses were endlessly quoted to the marks.

Proverbs 15:22

Plans fail for lack of counsel,
but with many advisers they succeed.

Proverbs 19:8

He who gets wisdom loves his own soul; he who cherishes understanding prospers.
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Should one need to justify their actions or business propositions with bible verses and talk of
"prayerful consideration, Christ-centered and God ordained," or should these things simply stand on their own merit??? A true Christian wouldn't have to brag about it and use it as a selling point in their alleged business opportunity. They would simply always deal honestly, openly and with transparency. It is time for a lot more transparency from Stephanie Weinzierl! I firmly believe in accountability and I think the victims should be given help as the Bible commands.

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11-16-2010, 04:13 PM
It is not only an opportunity but a RESPONSIBILITY to share with millions who are thirsty in this economic desert. Our hope as entrepreneurs has been restored and our passion is reignited.... I thank God every day for the opportunity to be building a business with integrity and centered on Him with each and every one of you!

Were her business opportunities centered on Him or her pocketbook?? How in the sam hell is it a responsibility to lure folks into businesses with 97% and higher loss rates for the reps???

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11-17-2010, 02:11 PM
Mission | Coram Deo Academy (http://www.coramdeoacademy.org/content/mission-0)


Mission Statement


Coram Deo Academy educates youth in a historic Christian worldview through a vigorous classical curriculum.The goal of CDA is to train ethical leaders and wise thinkers who will shape culture for the glory of God.

Ethical | Define Ethical at Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ethical)




eth·i·cal

   /ˈɛθhttp://sp.dictionary.com/dictstatic/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngɪhttp://sp.dictionary.com/dictstatic/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngkəl/ http://sp.dictionary.com/dictstatic/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html) Show Spelled[eth-i-kuhhttp://sp.dictionary.com/dictstatic/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngl] http://sp.dictionary.com/dictstatic/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html) Show IPA –adjective 1. pertaining to or dealing with morals or the principles of morality; pertaining to right and wrong in conduct.

2. being in accordance with the rules or standards for right conduct or practice, esp. the standards of a profession: It was not considered ethical for physicians to advertise.

Origin:
1600–10; ethic (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ethic) + -al (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/-al)1

—Synonyms
2. moral, upright, honest, righteous, virtuous, honorable.


—Antonyms
2. immoral.





What is Ethical Behavior?


Different people have different beliefs about what constitutes ethical behavior (http://business.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Ethical_Behavior_In_the_Workplace). The law defines what is and is not legal, but the distinctions between moral right and wrong are not always so clear. In many situations lines between right and wrong are blurred. Such situations can lead to ethical dilemmas.




When faced with ethical dilemmas, it's important to consider outcomes of the decision-making process. One way of dealing with ethical dilemmas is by using the four way test to evaluate decisions. This test involves asking four questions:
Is my decision a truthful one?
Is my decision fair to everyone affected?
Will it build goodwill for the organization?
Is the decision beneficial to all parties who have a vested interest in the outcome?
When these four questions can truthfully be answered with a "yes," it is likely that the decision is an ethical one.
Another way of making sure decisions are truly ethical is by using the publicity test. Ask yourself how you would feel if your actions were published in your hometown newspaper. If you would be comfortable having your parents, grade school teachers, and other people find out what you did, chances are that your decision is an ethical one. However, if you would not want these individuals to learn about your actions, you probably need to rethink your decision.
How can a teacher that has been involved in various businesses that can clearly be characterized as unethical be qualified to train children to be ethical leaders. What she has modeled in business online goes against everything this school says it stands for. The truth is painfully obvious. One can seek it out with these links (http://www.realscam.com/f16/coram-deo-academy-stephanie-weinzierl-303/#post4378).


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12-01-2010, 03:07 PM
Tragically, many who were in MLM with Stephanie suffered horrific financial probelms due to their involvment in MLM. One beautiful, talented and dynamic lady took her own life. Churches, schools and other social groups should be working hard to protect their members and guest from the devastating losses MLM can bring.

I firmly believe in my heart that every school and church should have a strict no solicitation policy in place. They also could be reaching out to these victims to see they have help with food, shelter and counseling. Certainly, God did not want his children to be committing suicide because their faith was used to lure them into a business that left them destitute and hopeless as happens in many MLMs. The faithful should be sharing God's incredible love for His children so this kind of tragedy will not happen again. It does take a village!

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What an idiotic and ignorant statement. Parents are leaving their children in the care of people. Those people supposedly educating the children are shaping the childrens' lives, morals and attitudes. People are capable of taking His Word and twisting it to the detriment of Godly, trusting people.

People have the power to destroy the lives, finances and well being of other people. This is exactly why the parents should be viewing this school very critically and asking a lot more questions. Accountablility is a great thing and Coram Deo Academy should be able to account for the people they hired!

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12-02-2010, 11:37 AM
Another Coram Deo Acadmey had this to say:


We believe in the personal, bodily, and visible return of the Lord Jesus Christ,71 at whose coming on clouds of glory the dead will be raised72 and, together with the living, judged.73 The redeemed will be found innocent in Christ,74 and will inherit the renewed heavens and earth, and will dwell eternally with God in everlasting joy.75 The reprobate will be found guilty of their sins76 and will be justly punished with everlasting torments of body and soul, in hell.77

71. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
72. 1 Corinthians 15:50-53
73. Matthew 25:31-32
74. Romans 8:1
75. Isaiah 65:17-25
76. Matthew 25:41
77. Luke 16:22-24

I hope those that have used His Word to hurt their fellow Christians and in some instances leave them in financial ruin and worse will get the punishment they deserve.

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Coram Deo is quick to post all these platitudes, but do they really honor them? If so my blogging and truth seeking should be most welcome. I hope no one else has to bury their best friend as I had to because folks weren't enlightened and got burned in schemes that left them in financial difiiculty. Accountability is a great thing.

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
12-05-2010, 11:38 PM
Minister at Prestonwood Baptist charged in Internet sex sting


01:31 PM CDT on Saturday, May 17, 2008


By TANYA EISERER and SAM HODGES / The Dallas Morning News

A minister at Prestonwood Baptist Church faces a charge of online solicitation of a minor after police say he drove from Plano to Bryan to have sex with a 13-year-old girl.
The "girl" was a police officer pretending to be a teenager as part of an ongoing Internet sex sting. Joe Barron, one of about 40 ministers at the 26,000-member megachurch, could face up to 20 years in prison and a $10,000 fine for the second-degree felony.
Computer equipment was seized from Mr. Barron's home, and police said they were investigating evidence he had online conversations with more than a dozen girls.
Bryan authorities say the minister began crying Thursday morning as police arrested him. "He said he was feeling guilt and shame and grief," said Bryan police Officer Lesley Malinak, a Police Department spokeswoman.
Mr. Barron, 52, was released Friday evening from the Brazos County Jail after posting $7,000 bail. Neither he nor his attorney could be reached for comment.
Church officials did not comment late Friday on Mr. Barron's current employment status. He has worked at Prestonwood for about 18 months as a minister to married adults, ages 42 to 58.
"We are disturbed and saddened by the reports we have heard and we are praying for the Barron family," said Mike Buster, executive pastor at Prestonwood. "We are fully cooperating with the police in their investigation."
Mr. Barron served from 2000 to 2003 as senior pastor at Northrich Baptist Church in Richardson, and before that was adult education pastor at First Baptist Church of Lewisville for 10 months, according to those churches.
Bryan police said Mr. Barron had been chatting for about two weeks with the officer who he thought was a juvenile. Police declined to talk in detail about the conversations, but they said they were sexually explicit.
On Tuesday, Mr. Barron asked the girl to skip school and meet him, police said.
"Of course, our officers replied that they would," Officer Malinak said. "He had been on a business trip and was coming to see her after he was done with this business trip."
Two days later, he made the three-hour drive to Bryan to meet the girl at a parking lot, chatting by phone with his potential victim on the way, police said. Police said he was arrested without incident.
Inside the car, which Mr. Barron had borrowed from his wife, police found a box of 10 condoms, a Web camera and headset that authorities believe he was going to give the girl, police said.
"It is common for people that are engaged in this type of activity" to give gifts to the minors that "they are grooming," Officer Malinak said.
Bryan police discovered that Mr. Barron was a minister when he was asked during questioning what he did for a living, police said. "This is the first person that is this prominent that we've arrested" since undercover stings began in November 2006. Mr. Barron is the 12th man arrested in the stings.
On Thursday, Bryan officers also searched Mr. Barron's Plano home, where they seized a desktop computer, two laptops, numerous computer disks and memory cards, police said.
Prestonwood church staff also gave police officials access to his computer at the church, authorities said. Police did not seize the computer because church officials told police the church had software on the computer that would not allow a person to go into a chat room, Officer Malinak said.
But she said church officials were going to have the computer checked to make sure "there's no inappropriate material" on it, she said.
Bryan police also are looking into whether Mr. Barron may have engaged in previous sexual contact with minors.
"Going through the computer equipment will be very telling," Officer Malinak said.
She said it would be some time before authorities knew what the computers contained.
Mr. Barron does not appear to have a criminal history.
The Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP) has in recent years expanded its focus, with attention to abuse by Baptist pastors.
"Baptist officials, we believe, need to compile a thorough, online database of proven, admitted and credibly accused pedophile clergy, so that kids can be protected and parents can be warned," said David Clohessy (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/David_Clohessy), SNAP national director.
A work group of the Southern Baptist Convention has been studying the feasibility of such a database and will make a report at the denomination's annual meeting, set for next month in Indianapolis (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Indianapolis).
Matthew Watkins of the Bryan-College Station Eagle contributed to this report.
teiserer@dallasnews.com; samhodges@dallasnews.com
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This happened just a few miles away from Coram Deo. Exactly why Churches and schools need to be much more vigilant about who they hire and allow to have contact with children. Sexual predators and folks soliciting questionable business deals etc. abound. Does Grace Church USA know the full background of Stephanie Weinzierl and her mother Jan Tannous who are both on staff there?

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
12-18-2010, 11:51 AM
Cottonwood Creek Baptist Church lost big contributors such as Arch Bonnema (http://creation.com/caution-about-ark-discovery) and others. Coram Deo Academy may face a similiar situation. Honest Christians may not want to have their families associated with folks that have been in questionable business deals that were running around claiming to be "multi-million dollar earners." These kinds of controversies detract from the learning environment and can drive away key contributors.

Thankfully, the Madoff scandal (http://money.cnn.com/2010/12/17/news/companies/madoff_recovery/index.htm?hpt=C1)victims will see recovery of a significant amount of the money they lost. As Stephanie has had her picture up on ads representing herself as a "multi-million dollar earner," I would think she would want to reach out to those who have suffered financial losses in the ventures she has solicited. The Bible instructs us to help others and "If your enemy is hungry, feed him. If he is thirsty, give him a drink."GOD'S WORD® Translation (http://gwt.scripturetext.com/romans/12.htm) (©1995) (http://www.godsword.org/)
So, certainly she will be reaching out to those in need that may have been hurt by the businesses opportunities she chose to hawk.

I would also pray, that as the Weinzierl name is on www.heatherdobrott.com (http://www.heatherdobrott.com), that she would take decisive action to get that hate / slam site taken down. The police are investigating it as a felony. That is going to create tremendous negative publicity for everyone whose name is in anyway associated with it. It is truly tragic that scammers out there would resort to such dirty tactics to threaten and intimidate folks like me that are consumer advocates exposing pyramid and cash gifting schemes. It just makes the MLM industry look even more shady and will garner much more media attention.

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
12-18-2010, 04:49 PM
The truth shall set us all free. I believe that folks involved in questionable businesses and those that took out home loans they couldn't possibly hope to pay have contributed to the current financial crisis and should be held accountable. Stephanie signed loan papers for a 1.23 million dollar home in Texas. That is a mansion in this state where most of the housing is very affordable. She hardly needed a 6500 square foot chateau to live in. The loans were for 95% of the purchase price when the home was bought in June 2007.

Just over a year later the two banks stopped receiving payments. Stephanie's parents one being a pastor, her mother Jan Tannous, moved in as well. They all lived there for free for about a year. The property taxes of $35,000.00 were paid by the bank when a lawsuit was filed to collect them and the home was foreclosed on and the bank needed a clear title to liquidate it.

The banks lost more than half a million - $500,000.00+. I see nothing Christian or honest about getting into a ridicullous situation like that. One can get a 2000 square foot home here in Texas for less than $200,000.00. How could she be giving to God's Kingdom or any charities when she was spending like the rich and famous on MLM income??? Please search her name on the Denton County website (http://216.60.44.147/TX/Denton/default.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1#&&/wEXAQUUSElTVE9SWV9kZWZhdWx0X2FzcHgFATC4s8EuJgeuCaP qDk76+LduHGQxhA==) for more information.

Texas does allow banks to sue to recover their losses from debacles like this. A Texas lender is allowed to sue a borrower for a deficiency judgment if the loan is not paid in full with the proceeds of a foreclosure sale. However, the amount that the lender can recover is limited to the difference between the amount owed and the fair market value of the property as determined by a property appraisal. I firmly believe she should be held accountable for the horrific losses of those two banks. So many have been hurt by these situations and the subsequent economic meltdown.

This is hardly the example of Christian and responsible living I would want for my children.

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
12-26-2010, 04:20 PM
She has literally stalked....our top Representatives
That quote is directly off of a page Stephanie Weinzierl was responsible for. There were several such documents published reporting Weinzierls being stalked. That is also the exact nonsense spouted on the slam site using my name, www.heatherdobrott.com (http://www.heatherdobrott.com). I demand Stephanie produce proof of these hideous allegations. I turned myself in to the police. Why did she not report it if she and her family were being stalked???

I will not rest until there is full accountability for these vicious lies about me. Everyone at Coram Deo, Grace Church USA, those involved in the ridiculous "businesses" she promotes, friends and family will be dragged in to this. God will see the truth prevail. I will do whatever it takes to expose the low life scammer(s) behind that sickening slam site! The Holy War is underway. I didn't start it, but I will sure as heck finish it!

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
12-27-2010, 10:51 PM
Stephanie is not licensed to teach in Texas, Michigan or California.


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I will bet she has done little post graduate work. So much for Coram Deo Academy's story about their educators:

Faculty and Staff

Coram Deo employs a highly qualified staff of teachers and faculty. Over the years, students have studied under the tutelage of doctors, authors and master naturalists. It is not uncommon at CDA for a teacher to continue their education while maintaining a teaching position. Many teachers choose to continue studying for the advanced or terminal degree in their field while at maintaining a teaching position at Coram Deo.

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
12-28-2010, 05:50 PM
I was accused of being fear-filled, scarcity-minded, broke and hate-filled by various scammers. I hardly think an arrogant mentality like that is befitting of supposed Christian educator. What, pray tell, is wrong with being frugal, giving, generous, honest and concerned for the welfare of others? What is shameful in having a nice humble abode that is paid off? Does Stephanie's spend like one is a sucessful millionaire lifestyle send the message of servant leadership, a caring heart and charity that Coram Deo believes is the Christian way? Go to Denton county and see her 1.23 million dollar mansion that the bank lost over half a million on when it had to foreclose. So many people were hurt by that adventure into the lifestyles of the rich and infamous.

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
12-30-2010, 06:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/user/lisajon5858#p/u/5/gzEGNBBEQDk


If these folks were really concerned about who was educating their children they should be asking a lot more questions. For insatnce, how thoroughly does Coram Deo Screen their teachers? Do they agree with Coram Deo's decision to place a serial MLMer with a very questionable online presence in a classroom? Is Stephanie's way of doing business as shown in this thread biblical???


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vyXC7AJLLM

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
01-01-2011, 04:00 PM
Coram Deo Academy
Upper School Awards Ceremony
And Commencement Address
Flower Mound, Texas
May 8, 2004
Dr. David Naugle
“The Fragrance of Christ”
“Put an altar of incense in your innermost heart.
Be a sweet aroma of Christ.”
Origen, Homilies on Exodus 9
President Rodney Marshall, Upper School Director William Rector,...........

This assignment of spreading the life-giving or death-dealing perfume of
Christ is of such magnitude and importance that it exceeds the mind’s ability to
Diane Ackerman, A Natural History of the Senses (New York: Random House, Vintage
Books, 1991), p. 7.
grasp or perform. It is far beyond human understanding and power. So, in
answering this question, Paul makes it clear that this is certainly not a work for hucksters who adulterate God’s word or corrupt its ministry for fame or fortune or other forms of personal gain. “For we are not like many,” Paul says, “peddling the
word of God, but as from sincerity, but as from God, we speak in Christ in the sight of God.”
So, this kind of work of wafting the scent of the Savior abroad in the world,
even into its nooks and crannies, is a work that is to be done (1) by godly people
of sincerity and integrity, (2) by true believers who are sent by God and are doing
His business, and (3) by sensitive Christians for whom God is the true spectator
and witness of every word and deed, who have learned to do everything Coram
Deo, in the sight and before the face of the living God.
There can be no greater educational purpose or vision for an Alma Mater
than to teach her children to make it their ambition to be pleasing to God, that
everything they think, say and do is to be thought, said, and done before an
audience of One.
So, young men and women of the Coram Deo class of 2004: Wear
perfume, wear cologne. Yes, that is it. If I could offer you only one tip for the
future, wearing perfume or cologne would be it. Of course, by now you know that
the scent of which I speak, the smell with which I suggest you adorn yourself, the
fragrance that I propose you wear and share with the world is none other than
the fragrance of Christ!
Students, may God bless you on this very special day of your graduation
from high school. May God bless you and your families beyond which you can
even ask or think.
“Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself and God our Father, who has
loved us and given us eternal comfort in and good hope by grace, comfort and
strengthen your hearts [by His Holy Spirit] in every good work and word.” Amen.
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Stephanie Weinzierl clearly has used His word for financial gain. Why would CDA hire a teacher that can't carry herself as they ask the students to go out into the world and carry themselves. Her use of His Word and folks faith to solicit her many MLMs is reprehensible. Certainly, God did not mean for many to suffer horrific financial losses, go hungry, face foreclosure and worse. I don't want to have to ever bury another close friend that was financially ruined by MLM. All I smell with Stephanie Weinzierl around is a rat!

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
01-02-2011, 05:39 PM
Here (http://www.homeeducatorsresource.com/coram-deo-academy-reading-list-c-357_410.html) is Coram Deo's Reading list. I don't see a single one of many MLMers' great hero's books listed. What??? No Robert Kiyosaki (http://www.johntreed.com/Kiyosaki.html)books on the list for Stephanie to teach from??? :RpS_ohmy:

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
01-04-2011, 11:10 PM
core values (http://www.gracechurchusa.com/corevalues.html)



Core Values

With Christ as our example in all things, we are guided, as a church and individually, by a set of core values which reflect and demonstrate His life in us:
Spiritually Equipped:
It is our responsibility to ensure that we are constantly growing in our faith and spiritually equipped for service and life. It is having "the courage to shape a better future by an eagerness to mature spiritually."
Passion:
Without passion, our worship and service will become dry and burdensome. It is passion that keeps the fire burning for Chirst, His commission, and His church, and we will continue to fan the flame, being "committed in heart and mind to this local church."
Integrity:
Our words and actions will be in harmony with the message we proclaim. We are a real church, made up of real people, reflecting a real example of Chirst to the world.
Emotionally Equipped:
We will walk each day with the fruit of the Spirit in evidence in our lives (Galatians 5:22), providing a living example to all of an emotionally balanced Christian life.
Physically Equipped:
With the understanding that God desires the very best for our lives, we will pray for lives that are free of sickness and disease, so that we are able to fulfill our God-given potential.
Profit:
We recognize that financial prosperity is given to believers for the use of sowing seed and expanding the Kingdom of God, while also providing for the physical needs of our families. As such, we will use our gifts, skills, and talents to produce financial blessing, not only for the provision of our families' needs, but also for the purpose of sowing seed, reaching the lost, and ministering to the needs of others, for the glory of God.
Innovation:
God has given each of us the ability and freedom to step into the plans and purposes that He has prepared for our lives. As such, we are created to envision and develop innovative ways of fulfilling that destiny and serving His call.
Quality:
It is of great importance that we invest in the training, equipping, and empowering of our leaders of today. In the same way, we will invest in the lives of our young people, teaching them through message and example, so that they will become strong, faithful, Godly leaders of tomorrow.
Social Life:
We are to be the confident and clear voice of Chirst in our community, country, and world, providing the Christian viewpoint on social issues of importance and speaking out for those who, due to their circumstances, do not have a way of making their needs known or "voice" heard.
Global Awareness:
Recognizing that the Kingdom of God is without boundaries or borders, we will act as responsible global citizens, making a difference for Christ throughout the world.
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Grace Church USA is fully aware of Stephanie's shenanigans, yet:


MEET OUR HIGH VOLTAGE STAFF



Transformers: Nursery through Kindergarten


http://www.gracechurchusa.com/_images//staff_steph.gif


"Don't stop the children from coming to me! Children like these are part of the kingdom of God.”(Luke 18:16)Ms. Stephanie has a passion for seeing God’s word sown into the fertile soil of children’s hearts. Jesus reminded his disciples on several occasions no child is too young to come to Him and they are important to God. Stephanie is constantly looking for innovative ways to make God’s word come alive in children and for mega-watt fun. She has a degree in Elementary Education and has taught in Preschool and Elementary School. She has many years of experience in Children’s Ministry.


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Stephanie has a recent picture plastered all over the net. Timothy Clowers, the executive pastor, has all the facts and yet proudly and publically supports her business dealings. Shocking to be sure! Stephanie's mother is an associate pastor there as well. That church publishing that is beyond laughable considering the facts. Why Coram Deo and this church have these people on staff mystifies me.




Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
01-17-2011, 06:40 PM
Grammar Faculty and Staff | Coram Deo Academy (http://www.coramdeoacademy.org/content/grammar-faculty-and-staff)

No Stephanie Weinzierl.

Soapboxmom

Seriously?
01-18-2011, 08:08 AM
Faculty may be subject to change
:RpS_wink:

Soapboxmom
06-28-2011, 01:28 PM
I am sure many reading here remember the late, but incredibly great Paul Harvey. Well, I have very good news. The rest of the story shall be posted very soon. Would anyone with the facts ever allow Mrs. Weinzierl to have any contact with their children? Has her conduct at all times reflected the Christian values Coram Deo espouses? Dr. Phil has alwyas said, "the best indicator of future behavior is past behavior." I will be exploring her past business ventures in much greater detail and let our readers decide!

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
07-19-2011, 01:46 PM
Stephanie Weinzierl has been involved in a slew of scummy deals. She and her husband Jack were involved in Advantage Conferences. Advantage Conferences sued the Dallas Better Business (http://www.realscam.com/f11/advantage-conferences-sued-dallas-better-business-bureau-lost-summary-judgment-tim-darnell-jack-weinzierl-770/)and lost in Summary Judgment. 98% of the participants (http://www.realscam.com/f11/jack-weinzierl-evil-rat-liar-scammer-stephanie-weinzierl-coram-deo-academy-786/)in that pyramid scam lost money. Many were out $20,000.00 after expenses. Jack Weinzierl published and never retracted vicious lies about me stalking his family (http://www.realscam.com/f11/jack-weinzierl-tim-darnell-fabrications-receiving-death-threats-being-stalked-soapboxmom-heather-dobrott-777/).

Jack repeatedly threatened my with lawsuits (http://www.realscam.com/f11/jack-weinzierl-threatened-tim-darnell-sued-soapboxmom-heather-dobrott-district-court-lost-summary-judgment-767/)and his partner in scamming Tim Darnell did the dirty deed. I won in Summary Judgment as the scammers couldn't provide a single false statement made by me. Their hideous lies about being threatened by me were proven to be total fiction in that suit.

Stephanie and Jack happily paraded as Christian Millionaire Mentors and multi-million dollar earners while floundering in or just out of a chapter 7 bankruptcy filing (http://www.realscam.com/f11/jack-weinzierl-multi-million-dollar-earner-destitute-ding-ling-774/). They continued to solicit that scam knowing it was a pyramid scheme and almost everyone involved was losing money. They watched folks go into bankruptcy, foreclosure, drown in debt, go hungry and suffer unspeakably, yet continued merrily along hoping to bilk more Christians out of their life savings.

Coram Deo has been made aware of this and yet still allows that woman in a classroom. I would never give my hard earned money to a school that hires staff of this caliber. The Weinzierls do not represent the Christian way of living in my book!

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
07-22-2011, 06:20 PM
Grammar School Profile | Coram Deo Academy (http://www.coramdeoacademy.org/content/grammar-school-profile)

I am shocked, shocked I tell you. I am not seeing the faculty for the 2011 - 2012 school year. Why is that?

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I can find plenty of pictures of their rogue faculty member Stephanie Weinzierl. Is she a multi-million dollar earner or a religious scammer whose husband Jack Declared chapter 7 bankruptcy to weasel out of a legitimate lawsuit by an elderly rep he helped to defraud? Hilariously, Jack claimed all of the $200,000.00 in credit card debt was his only. He said against all logic that she didn't rack up a dime of that debt. The Department of Justice attorney and I were rolling our eyes when he testified to that!

Really interesting how when the Department of Justice asked for special counsel to investigate fraudulent transfers and possibly sue Jack and Stephanie's estate to recover money for the creditors, Jack couldn't get the bankruptcy dismissed fast enough. Curious!

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
07-31-2011, 11:11 AM
240Welcome!

Advantage Conferences is a great company with two opportunities. The first is the Mindset Mentoring products which will change the way you think about finances and teach you the responsibilities that come with great wealth. The second is an opportunity to build a business that will create wealth for you and your family. Advantage Conferences will change your life if you are looking for that change.

We are committed to building our Advantage Conferences team based on honesty, integrity, and a commitment to help others. This foundation of mutual trust has served me well in my traditional business career, and it serves us all well here.

One of the things I am most excited about is the fact that we teach every person, regardless of marketing or internet skills how to make $7,000 Over and Over Again. This is not a bunch of theory that someone reads about—these are the tools and strategies that helped me qualify and then earn $28,000 my first month with Advantage Conferences. In fact, we were able to use the same 3 Simple Steps to generate $109,700 in our first 120 days in this business and over $95,500 in our 5th month alone. And FOLKS, this is from a person who has never earned more than $4,500 a month in a home based business, SO I know it was not Jack Weinzierl. It was our 3 Simple Steps where I have not made 1 sales call or 1 cold call. We are now approaching $1 million in commissions in our first 27 months with Advantage Conferences and I have a passion for mentoring others to use their God-given gifts and talents to the fullest.

I have my MBA and I was in the medical technology business for over 15 years. My wife, Stephanie, is a gifted teacher and we are actively involved in our ministry in the greater Dallas area. We have three children under 10 years of age and we are building this business to help people change their lives, giving them both time and financial freedom.

You can meet our family at: http://picturetrail.com/jweinzierl (http://web.archive.org/web/20080611040915/http://picturetrail.com/jweinzierl).

It is time to believe in you! Ignore the skepticism of friends and family and build a business for yourself, not by yourself.

God has a buffet of promises for all of us and we need to get out of our seat and receive those blessings. Let’s start your future, today!

In Service,

Jack and Stephanie Weinzierl

Flower Mound, TX
817.205.9513
jack@advantageconferences.com (jack@advantageconferences.com)




Contact your Pro Rep at: jack@advantageconferences.com (jack@advantageconferences.com)
or complete the online Interest Form (http://web.archive.org/web/20080611040915/http://advantageconferences.com/jack/interest_form.asp)
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There is scammer Stephanie who is now at Coram Deo Academy. No doubt the Weinzierls scamming days have been brought to an end by the court documents and facts coming to light right here. That page was up as these hideous death threat and stalking fabrications (http://www.realscam.com/f11/jack-weinzierl-tim-darnell-fabrications-receiving-death-threats-being-stalked-soapboxmom-heather-dobrott-777/)stating I had stalked the Weinzierls were published and as Jack was preparing his chapter 7 bankruptcy filing (http://www.realscam.com/f11/jack-weinzierl-multi-million-dollar-earner-destitute-ding-ling-774/). This is the height of dishonesty. I will get a full retraction, apology and reimbursement for the attorneys fees spent. I will not rest until justice is done! Children and the public in general must be protected from these sick, exceedingly dishonest people.


Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
08-02-2011, 01:39 PM
Stephanie Weinzierl being involved in fabrications of being stalked alone makes her totally unsuitable to be in a classroom at any school. Her being part of a scam that destroyed hundreds of Christiains financially alone is reason enough not to allow her in a classroom. For Jack to be bragging about his win in court in unconsionable. They were part of a religious scam that was defrauding the elderly.

One elderly rep had the courage to file suit to recover her losses that were the direct result of lies and misrepresentations of Jack Weinzierl. Jack ran up the attorney fees to over $80,000.00. My family could no longer fund the atorney fees. I stepped in as the plaintiff so I could represnt myself. Almost all of her case was lost because she couldn't assign those claims to another party. Jack and Stephanie left her and countless others financially ruined, hungry and unable to pay their bills.

Jerry and Aaron Weinzierl have been cheering these scammers and Advantage Conferences founder Tim Darnell on in this disgusting scheme to defraud Christians.

All of the posts from the Scam threads where Jack posted under 9 different IDs and every shred of the court documents and trial and hearing transcripts will be going up on various threads. It will be interesting to see what the parents of Coram Deo think when they get all the facts. Jack bragged of transparency, but produced virtually nothing (he admitted at trial he didn't produce because I was posting even though he was well aware of the protective order in place.) He removed and destroyed everything he had ever had online and had all the Scam threads and my Scribd documents removed. Quite dirty and dishonest, isn't it? Thankfully I have an alarming habit of arching absolutely everything.

I invite the wonderful folks from Coram Deo to get the facts! I think it is high time to send out a couple of hundred emails to my media contats and get Coram Deo and their "Christian" educators checked out. There will be accountability right here in the court of public opinion.

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
08-02-2011, 03:03 PM
http://www.free-press-release.com/news-coram-deo-academy-and-christian-educator-stephanie-weinzierl-1312311849.html

Soapboxmom
08-02-2011, 07:38 PM
Flower Mound Campus: Grades PreK through 12
Summer Hours- 9am-3pm M-TH

Location: 4900 Wichita Trail, Flower Mound, TX 75022 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=4900+Wichita+Trail,+Flower+Mound,+TX+75022&sll=32.92288,-96.786804&sspn=0.00942,0.019248&ie=UTF8&ll=33.022536,-97.106373&spn=0.009409,0.019248&z=16&iwloc=A) (map) (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=4900+Wichita+Trail,+Flower+Mound,+TX+75022&sll=32.92288,-96.786804&sspn=0.00942,0.019248&ie=UTF8&ll=33.022536,-97.106373&spn=0.009409,0.019248&z=16&iwloc=A)
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Phone: 682-237-0232
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08-03-2011, 01:12 PM
The true hearts of Stephanie Weinzierl and Jack Weinzierl can be seen in what he says about a representative in their downline that tried to take his own life:
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Robert F. $5.500.00 refund
“That’s the gentleman who basically lied coming into the business and said he and his
wife were looking forward to building the business and really excited about AC, and he’s
also, 3 months later, called me in tears saying his wife was not in agreement and that she kicked him out of the house”

David Myers asked if Jack asked Robert to write an apology.

“We did…..Tim and I. We are not in the business of helping people just quit their
business. He hadn’t attended a conference….he was suicidal and we---we decided that
was the best course of action”

Jack never followed up with him---talked with him after that.

“I was extremely upset….I spent dozens of hours of my time and you’ll see in his
apology---

That rep almost died. Jack never checked on him because the gravy train had ended. Money, money , money..... Hardly the Christian way. If you get ripped off by the Weinzierls you have to write a lie-filled apology letter so they can assure the public your horrific financial losses were not due to them and their pyramid scheme, but entirely your own fault. They only refunded him because they wanted to sweep that disaster they caused under the rug and they were sure the blackmail letter would keep him shut up. That would have worked if the scammers hadn't made the mistake of suing the BBB and me. That is how all this became public. Lying scammers should not file frivolous suits!

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Soapboxmom
08-04-2011, 12:51 PM
Here is what one of the Weinzierls victims had to say about their experince in Advantage Conferences. This rep also posted on Scam. Those posts will be up soon.
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Anyone that calls Advantage Conference a great company is a LIAR that caught up in the game.

I am like 90%+ of those that signed up with AC, I lost money. In my case, I lost thousands of dollars.

Advantage Conference people are really very creepy and scary. They know most everyone loses their money but yet they still try to deceive them. I guess it's just to help recover their loses.

Most don't tell you about the thousands of dollars advertising that will be lost for the most part.

Anyone promoting AC should be ashamed.


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Jack and Stephanie Weinzierl are creepy and scary and they should be ashamed to be sure.

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
10-26-2011, 02:15 PM
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Those are the sleazebag solicitations Stephanie and Jack sent out on their autoresponders for Advantage Conferences in 2005. Remember that pyramid scam had a 98% loss rate and many of those Christians lured in lost thousands and thousands of dollars they couldn't afford to lose. This is total douchebaggery! Those hideous solicitations speak for themselves!

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Soapboxmom
10-30-2012, 06:35 PM
The Google / SEO queen triumphs again! I have the first five results for the name of this egregious liar and scammer! Why the private school would allow dishonest, money grubbing slime like this to have contact with children is beyond me. The fact Coram Deo has no standards for their teaching staff is apparent in their hiring of this serial liar and scammer. Thankfully, the parents can check out their child's teacher here and get the facts!


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