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Doc Bunkum
07-22-2010, 07:53 AM
Let's be clear - I'm not saying this company or it's methods of doing business are a scam. But I do have issues with their over-the-top marketing claims. And $53 USD per bottle? For fruit puree? Seriously?

Interesting, but they're not based out of SLC Utah. Rather, Via Viente is a company that was started by Craig Keeland and is based in Plano, Texas.

ViaViente is made from a comprehensive list of whole fruits (including noni fruit) and diluted with mineral-rich drinking water from Vilcabamba, an area of Ecuador where 1 in 64 people live to be over the age of 100.

Gee! That story sounds familiar!

Where did I hear that one before? Oh yes, Evolv. "The water "base" of Evolv is bottled at the source in a remote section of Arkansas, at the edge of a national forest and far from any population center or agriculture."

As someone noted previously, there are only 2 national forests in Arkansas and neither are remote or far from any population.

As for ViaViente, if you believe they send a water bomber down to Ecuador once a week to scoop a load of mineral-rich drinking water out of the river in Vilcabamba to make their magic elixir, then you likely are a prime candidate to market this stuff.

(As a side note, I've been in the jungles in South America and I'm not about to drink water out of any creek or pond I find down there.)

That aside though, this must be a pretty powerful brew.

"Mr. Ryz" gives this testimonial (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080105080502AAdl0kv) about his partner, Justin, ("Broker" Jones) a body builder. "In his early 20s, he was suffering from severe back pain. When he first ordered ViaViente, he started following the "12 Weeks" plan- a.k.a. 2 oz in the morning, and 2 at night. He claims that within his first month, all that pain essentially vanished."

Fixed up "Mr. Ryz's" dad too. "I have a father (pushing 60 years of age) with high blood pressure. At first, he was reluctant to stay on the "12 Week" plan, but ever since New Year's Day, he's back on schedule."

As for "Mr. Ryz" himself: "Last week, the day after New Years, we had over a foot of snow, and I had to shovel 2 driveways. After finishing the work, I had a very sore back and shoulder. I hadn't experienced this before as a result of shoveling, but then I remembered that during my week-long Christmas vacation, I had forgotten to take my Via juice with me. I had been taking the ViaViente juice for about a month before the snow storms started. So, I took 2 oz. of the ViaViente juice that evening, and another 2 oz. before bed. In the morning, nearly all the pain was gone."

So what can I say?

This sounds like some pretty awesome stuff! :RpS_thumbup:

littleroundman
07-22-2010, 10:35 AM
Well, I'll be hornswoggled.

Who woulda thunk it ???

An MLM attempting to pass off a worthless product by using pseudo science.


Longevity and Age Exaggeration in Vilcabamba, Ecuador1 (http://geronj.oxfordjournals.org/content/34/1/94.abstract#fn-1)



Richard B. Mazess (http://geronj.oxfordjournals.org/search?author1=Richard+B.+Mazess&sortspec=date&submit=Submit), PhD2 (http://geronj.oxfordjournals.org/content/34/1/94.abstract#aff-1) and
Sylvia H. Forman (http://geronj.oxfordjournals.org/search?author1=Sylvia+H.+Forman&sortspec=date&submit=Submit), PhD3 (http://geronj.oxfordjournals.org/content/34/1/94.abstract#aff-2)



2Dept. of Radiology (Medical Physics), Univ. of Wisconsin Hospitals. Madison, WI 53706.
3Dept. of Anthropology, Univ. of Massachusetts Amherst, MA 01003.


Abstract

Systematic age exaggeration was found after age 70 in an Equadorian population noted for extreme longevity. Extreme ages (over 100 years) were either incorrect or unsubstantiated. There was no evidence of increased longevity in the vilcabamba population.




© 1979 The Gerontological Society of America

Longevity and Age Exaggeration in Vilcabamba, Ecuador (http://geronj.oxfordjournals.org/content/34/1/94.abstract)



Vilcabamba: the town of very old people
Date: Exposed as a hoax in 1978
Categories: Death (http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/archive/display/category/death/), Anthropology (http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/archive/display/category/anthropology/), Medical Hoaxes (http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/archive/display/category/medical/), 1970s (http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/archive/category/1970s/)
Vilcabamba: the town of very old people (http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/archive/permalink/vilcabamba_the_town_of_very_old_people/)

Earl Lee Tobed
07-22-2010, 11:53 AM
How can you possibly doubt this magic potion that promises to make you live longer and look younger? when--- ViaViente became the FIRST product in the market to receive the coveted Brunswick Labs ORAC Seal of Certification for its Anti-Oxidant content. ORAC is the global scientific standard for Anti-Oxidant measurement. In on-going laboratory analysis, ViaViente continues to outpace ALL competitors with more than two times the ORAC rating of any other product in the market???

Answers on a postcard please!

littleroundman
07-22-2010, 11:57 AM
How can you possibly doubt this magic potion that promises to make you live longer and look younger? when--- ViaViente became the FIRST product in the market to receive the coveted Brunswick Labs ORAC Seal of Certification for its Anti-Oxidant content. ORAC is the global scientific standard for Anti-Oxidant measurement. In on-going laboratory analysis, ViaViente continues to outpace ALL competitors with more than two times the ORAC rating of any other product in the market???

Answers on a postcard please!

Well hush ma mouth an call me cornpone.

What was I thinking ????

Doc Bunkum
07-22-2010, 01:51 PM
Vilcabamba: the town of very old people
Date: Exposed as a hoax in 1978
Categories: Death, Anthropology, Medical Hoaxes, 1970s


Vilcabamba: the town of very old people (http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/archive/permalink/vilcabamba_the_town_of_very_old_people/)

Well, there's something you certainly don't see every day!

A MLM company making exaggerated claims! :RpS_mad:

Thanks for sharing that, LRM.

Awesome find. :RpS_thumbup:

Just goes to show a person can't take anything at face value. :RpS_unsure:

Doc Bunkum
07-22-2010, 02:05 PM
My wrist inflammation was gone thanks to Via Viente. I have typed a lot and found the juice has removed the pain and let me tell you many times I had to be idle and forced not to use computer as much.

What I like about the Vie Viente juice unlike a lot of other types of Juice is it is 12 years in the making and it really tastes good. Being a bit of a health nut, I had discovered Plaque forms on the artery walls when they become inflamed it builds up overtime which can lead to a Heart Attack.

Drinking the Via Viente juice, they have found it reduces the inflammation and if when this happens is they found the plaque actually comes off the artery walls.

Investing in your health is the best thing you can ever do, even without a compensation plan I would be a loyal product user but I'm happy to be building a great leveraged income here.


^Entrepreneur on Fire (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/lofiversion/index.php/t180522.html)^

Ronnie

Takes the plaque right off the artery walls!

Wonder if it will clean road tar off my rocker panels? :RpS_confused:

Earl Lee Tobed
07-22-2010, 02:15 PM
Vilcabamba: the town of very old people
Date: Exposed as a hoax in 1978
Categories: Death, Anthropology, Medical Hoaxes, 1970s

But Cornpone---this survey was carried outin 1978,long before ViaViente came along to make people(even incredibly wrinkly and semi-deceased people) live longer and look younger!

Surely you cant doubt this products miraculous properties? (steps back in amazement!)

iamwil
07-22-2010, 02:25 PM
As for ViaViente, if you believe they send a water bomber down to Ecuador once a week to scoop a load of mineral-rich drinking water out of the river in Vilcabamba to make their magic elixir, then you likely are a prime candidate to market this stuff. HELLO....

I don't know why you guys are so skeptical...anyone would think they'd just dehydrate it and then rehydrate back at the bottling plant..DUH!

Unsaved Trash
07-22-2010, 03:07 PM
HELLO....

I don't know why you guys are so skeptical...anyone would think they'd just dehydrate it and then rehydrate back at the bottling plant..DUH!

You know Wil, for some unknown reason you seem to have all the answers except for a question I've asked you at least 4 times over yonder and once here. Care to respond to this or is it going to be the same MO as over there, abandon the topic each time a hard question is put to you? http://www.realscam.com/f9/sound-familiar-130/#post2844

Emet
07-22-2010, 03:14 PM
HELLO....

I don't know why you guys are so skeptical...anyone would think they'd just dehydrate it and then rehydrate back at the bottling plant..DUH!

Dehydrated water...

http://www.rollaclub.com/board/style_emoticons/default/lmao.gif

iamwil
07-22-2010, 03:53 PM
Dehydrated water...

http://www.rollaclub.com/board/style_emoticons/default/lmao.gifwhy so funny, I always take a full nalgene bottle of the stuff when we go camping.

tis the most amazing thing, it never runs out. Whenever I'm out of water I simply add water and it is full again.

(note: I wish I could find that glacier stuff though...that would be cool)

Soapboxmom
07-22-2010, 04:09 PM
Bodybuilding and Clean Living By Broker Jones
An affiliate site of www.thebrokerjones.com (http://www.thebrokerjones.com)

Wednesday, January 2, 2008
You Are What You Eat!

Hey everyone,

Oftentimes I'll get guys who are just getting started in their quest to add mountains of muscle to their frames, come up to me and ask, "Man what's the best training program for me to get big like you?"

My answer is always the same. "When you are just getting started, your diet is responsible for 75% of your growth. Sleeping and Training are the easy parts."

Yes, you must make sure that you do not overtrain....or you're just wasting your time in the gym.

But you've got to eat......to grow. Period. Nuff Said. End of Story. Not even going to entertain a debate.

So, here it is.

I'm not a calorie counter.....that makes eating a fricking chore...and if something is a "chore" what happens? That's right...we find excuses of putting it off!

I eat six times a day, and I eat until I'm satisfied each time. I dont stuff myself, and I'm never left feeling "hungry".

Bodybuilding is an Art Form as much as it is a science. Listen to your body, it will tell you when it's had enough and when it needs more.

When I am out to put on quality muscle I'll eat like this:

Morning:
2 cups of coffee
4 scrambled egg whites
1 bowl of wheaties
2oz Via Viente
Endorsed by idiots!!!!!!

Soapboxmom

Doc Bunkum
07-22-2010, 04:42 PM
Endorsed by idiots!!!!!!

Soapboxmom

Testify Brother Jones! (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/lofiversion/index.php/t180522.html)


Hey everyone,

My name is Broker Jones, and I joined Via Viente back in February of 2007. At the time I joined out of pure excitement, and I will be honest with you.....I didn't care about the product, I only wanted to know, "how to get started", and "how to get paid."

I immediately called everyone I knew, (at this point I really had no idea what I was doing! But I was doing it!!!!) and I ended up signing up 10 fast track agents, due to a fairly large list of prospects that had been reading my blog for a year, and I also managed to help each of them get 3 of their own in my first 10 days and I qualified as a Silver Sales Leader, earning $2,747 as my first paycheck. If you thought I was excited when I first started.....at this point I was a starving cheerleader who had just eaten a box of twinkies!!!!!!!!

But after sitting down and talking with Sheri Sharman, a multi-multi-millionaire leader in Via Viente, she said to me, "Broker, you can be a real hotshot recruiter, but if you don't become a product of the product, you will never have long term success."

Taking her advice I began drinking 2oz's of Via Viente in the morning and 2oz's of Via Viente at night.

Flashback to 1998:

On 1998, on Christmas night I was following my friend Alec Stefansky and his fiance at the time, Clara, to his home in Santa Cruz. He was driving a BMW M3, and I was driving a 1985 Plymouth rental car. (We lived in Sonoma, California at the time, and back then, there was 1 rental car place in the entire city.)

(Interrupt the testimonial to ask the obvious question - It's 1998 and you rent a 1985 Plymouth?

Seriously, Broker, for a big time financier such as your self, can't you do a little better than a 13 yr old rental? Were'd you get it anyhow - Ugly Duckling?)


Going through a particularly challenging intersection in San Francisco, my friend panicced and locked up his breaks on a yellow light. So I locked up my breaks as well.......I'm sure you are getting the picture here and realizing that a BMW M3, stops a LOT faster than a 1985 Plymoth. So I slammed into his rear quarterpanel at about 15 miles per hour, and a split second later, I was rear ended by a gentlemen going 50mph.............

I suffered whiplash and a bulging disk in my upper spine right below the base of my neck.

I saw a Doctor, and he couldn't help me. My pain level was exruciating and I could not turn my neck to either side, during the following two weeks. I had to sleep on my back and position pillows just perfectly.

I saw a Chiropractor....and that helped a little. I could move my neck to some degree, and the pain subsided some. However I was told that I had something that was called "Degenerative Disc Disease" in my upper spine, and that as I got older, the pain would get worse and worse, and that this was a permanent condition.

As a result of a constant level of pain every single day of my life for 9 years straight, I had become addicted to Vicadin, Tylenol, Advil.....you name it. I took it just for relief. I won't lie and tell you that I was in excruciating pain during this time.........but try to imagine waking up......and having a pain level of 5 every....single....day....for 9 years straight.

Back to April 2007

It was April 12th, just after my 29th birthday, and two months after I had begun drinking Via Viente, when I woke up one morning without pain. I thought to myself...."maybe this is a fluke."

But the next day was pain free....and medication free.

....and the next.....and the next.

And to this day, I am 100% pain free. I have no inflammation whatsoever in my neck and I feel absolutely amazing. I was able to get back in the gym full time (a passion of mine), and every single day I am thankful for this amazing product and the anti-inflammatory products that it has due to it's high quality, high content anti-oxidants.

Both Ryan and Ronnie are a part of my Via Viente team, and it is an honor working with these gentlemen. If you have any questions, please contact them first, and if there is something they cannot answer, I will find the answer for them.

Via Viente has been an absolute blessing for me, and I will leave you with a picture that I took just over 2 months ago in the gym. It is NOT the picture of a depressed, addicted to painkillers, person resorting to live an ever-degrading quality of life.

But of a healthy, vibrant, excited-about-life young man with a completely new "pain free" outlook on life.

God Bless

Seriously?
07-22-2010, 05:07 PM
(Interrupt the testimonial to ask the obvious question - It's 1998 and you rent a 1985 Plymouth?

Seriously, Broker, for a big time financier such as your self, can't you do a little better than a 13 yr old rental? Were'd you get it anyhow - Ugly Duckling?)

Nah, Rent-A-Wreck.

Emet
07-22-2010, 05:32 PM
"...but if you don't become a product of the product, you will never have long term success."
We need to move that over to the favorite MLM lines thread.


Flashback to 1998
LSD will do that.


God Bless
I personally buy 18 bottles a month and I sample them out religiously.


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Doc Bunkum
07-22-2010, 06:14 PM
Both Ryan and Ronnie are a part of my Via Viente team, and it is an honor working with these gentlemen.

Broker Jones

Ryan and Ronnie you say?

These two "gentlemen" you refer to?

http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg436/emperormaximus/Ryz.jpg?t=1279839870

That pair you sure instill a lot of confidence!

Just the type I'd like for an upline to guide me to success.

Say, Ronnie, what's that funny "Banned" sign under your name over at MMG? Pulled a Lenny I see. Want to tell us about that?

As for Ryan, that's the goof that refers to himself as Mr. Ryz.

Not Bill, or George or Harry or Ryan, but "Mr. Ryz".

I'll have more to say about him later.

Trust me on that one. :RpS_wink:

Whip
07-22-2010, 07:21 PM
As for Ryan, that's the goof that refers to himself as Mr. Ryz.


Certainly you're not trying to say he is hiding behind a screen name are you? :RpS_laugh:

Unsaved Trash
07-22-2010, 09:32 PM
why so funny, I always take a full nalgene bottle of the stuff when we go camping.

tis the most amazing thing, it never runs out. Whenever I'm out of water I simply add water and it is full again.

(note: I wish I could find that glacier stuff though...that would be cool)

Hey Wil, I see you could respond to this once again but still won't respond to my question. A skunk never changes his stripes and always stinks. Same MO, same Wil.

littleroundman
07-23-2010, 02:56 AM
Surely you cant doubt this products miraculous properties? (steps back in amazement!)

C'mon now, be serious.

Without the involvement of "da lord" or one of his earthly representatives and an official Clementia 2 page missive,

how could any reasonable person believe ???

iamwil
07-23-2010, 07:45 AM
Hey Wil, I see you could respond to this once again but still won't respond to my question. A skunk never changes his stripes and always stinks. Same MO, same Wil.believe it or not, I can't keep up with every post every time....so sorry you feel ignored.

What exactly is your question?

Maybe even a link to where it was asked?

Or is whining your forte?

Unsaved Trash
07-23-2010, 12:20 PM
believe it or not, I can't keep up with every post every time....so sorry you feel ignored.

What exactly is your question?

Maybe even a link to where it was asked?

Or is whining your forte?

Excuse me Wil, but having asked you that question at least 4 times over yonder and watching you respond to all of the other posts in that thread, then again over here and totally ignoring the question, I'll give you the 2 links from here and hope that you will finally answer the question directly.

Here is the first link the the question: http://www.realscam.com/f9/sound-familiar-130/#post2844

And here is the second: http://www.realscam.com/f9/viaviente-jungle-juice-vilcabamba-ecuador-236/#post2975

If you don't care to answer it, just say so. That's your option. But you make the claims, you nearly always abandon the threads when a direct question asking you to validate your claim is made. I don't call it whining, I call it asking for substantiation and possibly hammering you until you give a direct answer.