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fromthehood
05-19-2013, 01:21 PM
Can somebody remember history of longer running pure ponzi with 500% annually? And although they were online for 4 years, they really took off about 8 month ago. Did they eat their losses before? I do not remember another ponzi that would do so.

They are very popular in Asia and in former eastern block. Website is registered in China. They say they are registered as "investment company" and give too addresses in New Zealand. And guess what Company with this register and name did exist, but went inactive about time when this ponzi went online.

NikSam
05-19-2013, 04:46 PM
as per quote on their site https://empfinance.com/company/


Our company was established in New Zealand on May, 21, 2010 with the name of EMPIRE LIMITED.


On Feb 25 2013
the company was deleted from the New Zeland registry.
View All Details (http://www.business.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/2496571)

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NikSam
05-19-2013, 05:01 PM
The first recorded screenshot on Jun 4 2010.

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Whois record shows the owner Olga Vernitisova from Moscow Russia (May 7th 2010) before the domain info was set to privacy on May 13th 2010.

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NikSam
05-19-2013, 05:21 PM
The site is on CloudFlare CDN/ AntiDDOS/ Caching proxy-tunnel with 2 entry point IPs 141.101.124.217, 108.162.207.217

The real location of the site and mail server is at Staminus Communications on IP address 69.197.49.5 (https://69.197.49.5) ;)

ICCBernd
05-22-2013, 09:41 AM
EMP Finance is not running for such a long time. There were always different programs with different scripts, mostly very cheap ones under that domain. Just recently that new professional made site popped up. This is a common used tactic by admins to kickstart their Ponzi's. They operate low profile with non-promising programs for a long time, so nobody is noticing them. Then they go live and state to be online for a very long time. This will make HYIP players go crazy and invest crazy amounts into such a successful HYIP, as they think. Works every time :)

littleroundman
05-22-2013, 10:02 AM
A little bit of Photoshopping, anyone ??

From the Empire Finance website (https://empfinance.com/investment_programs/)

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/empire_zpsbda921a3.jpg

a little bit of Photoshp magic, and, what do we find:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/speed-boat_zpsfc097785.jpg

The REAL ocean racer (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_n7RltmTdk-g/TQHmiHT09iI/AAAAAAAAYm4/iWsiYuB2DOs/s1600/speed_boat_1.jpg)

NikSam
05-22-2013, 10:17 AM
...

a little bit of Photoshp magic, and, what do we find:

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I do not think it was implied that's Admin's boat :)
where else he would get pictures? - only internet.

littleroundman
05-22-2013, 10:22 AM
Take a look at the signwriting on the fake Empress boat

NikSam
05-22-2013, 10:29 AM
Take a look at the signwriting on the fake Empress boat

Got that, but do not think anybody (even brainwashed) would seriously think it is more than just photoshop.

Wanna wait and see if someone will claim that as a proof the Company is real :)