I feel I just got scammed let me know what you think!!

[Michael75065]

I feel I just got scammed let me know what you think also a lot of hype this program.

Big Ideal Mastermind is part of Empower Network. This pure hype and BS They get you join for $45. Then they tell you that this is the basic level and the training and money you make at this level is not very good and need to upgrade good to the $500 level. or $1000 or all in at $3500. They don't tell you that up front..

Read this.
The hard work will be based on where you're positioned. For someone positioned at the bottom it would take 200 sales in a month to get to $5000 per month residual. *NOT taking into account passups* Someone at the $125 silver level it would take only*40 sales. Gold level - 10 sales Platinum level - 5 sales and Diamond level - 2 sales is $6000 a month. It's much less "work" to do 2,5 or 10 sales in a month than it is to do 200. That's why Vick is always talking about how important positioning is.

Wish They told me all this before joining that you needed to up grade or go all in at $3500. They don't tell that to get you to join.

be very careful joining Empower network and a lot of hype.

Michael Ladd
I feel I just got scammed let me know what you think!!
savemoney.cash@gmail.com
skype ID Michael75065

[path2prosperity]

I feel I just got scammed let me know what you think also a lot of hype this program.

Big Ideal Mastermind is part of Empower Network. This pure hype and BS They get you join for $45. Then they tell you that this is the basic level and the training and money you make at this level is not very good and need to upgrade good to the $500 level. or $1000 or all in at $3500. They don't tell you that up front..

Read this.


Do you mean Big Ideal Mastermind because there are more links to a program with a similar name.

Big Idea Mastermind (http://socialmediabar.com/bim-leader-starting-position).

[ribshaw]

Hey Michael, welcome to Real Scam. Sounds to me like a garden variety upsell scam. Same thing with the TV infomercials, you just want the book and tapes for $19.95 and next thing you know you have been chosen for "mentoring" or whatever, but only if you are serious. Everyone of us has fell for something similar, it's how you learn.

If you are not too far in, I would file a dispute with your credit card company. Tell them that Empower has all the makings of a pyramid scheme which is illegal for them to be promoting. There is a thread here http://www.realscam.com/f8/empower-network-1659/, I just clicked through it and seems to be MLM of sorts, but let them prove that to your credit card vendor they they are legitimately providing products and not just recruiting opportunities.

If you gave them any access to your credit card or checking account, I would seriously consider changing numbers in addition to to the complaint. You can find plenty of instances where people are charged for months on end in situations like this, so act quickly.

[Michael75065]

I didn't give anything like my checking account or my credit card number and I never seen so much hype for one program. They get in for total of $45 dollars a $25 basis membership and Then $19.95 for a e-wallet to get paid and I think this ever month just to learn how to be a blogger and if don't upgrade your sales will pass you up and only make $25 and your sponors get the rest . They want to either upgrade to a gold program that $500 or platinum which is $1000 or Diamond at $3500 and this what you get.

For their training was the biggest disappointment. Charging an arm and a leg for a few hours of recorded webinars of "this is how you publish a blog post" kind of training is... well, it's outrageous.


Tiered of scams and greedy people and liers.
About to give up on starting a good online business

Lost $5000 in Zeekreward and lost $125 in Networkmarketing.VT both are closed.
Rest the programs I see are pure junk over priced and lousy training and horrible sponsors
or people looking for get rich quick programs and if there not rich in 2- 3 months you will never see them.

If it sounds to good to be true it probably is.


O well my rant for the day

Looking for a good Business opportunity.


Please read this:

Any good programs out there and training and leaders out there?? Please no MLM or scams or pyramid schemes or over priced weight loss

Looking for a good work at home business opportunity.

Business. Need dependable company

Michael Ladd Skype ID Mike75065 Skype me but only true leaders and no time wasters please.


Michael Ladd

[ribshaw]

Michael,
I am far from being the Pollyanna of any group so take my next few comments based on that. I would venture to say that almost anything you see on line as a business opportunity or work at home is a scam. If it is not, then you need to have a certain skill set to be paid. In other words, if they charge anyone and take everyone it is more than likely a scam. And there are plenty of folks that sell "information" on how to do something, lose weight, get happy, and make money. That is the whole industry, getting you to buy their books and tapes. Usually you will overpay for the information and end up 5lbs heavier, a little sadder, and $39.95 poorer. By this stuff used or look for cheap or free ebooks.

None of the above means that you should not try and educate yourself and get a skill set to work on line. But if I were to start from scratch I would see if I could get hired and learn something about online marketing that way. One thought I have is Clark Howard is a consumer Advocate in the states, I would encourage you to look through his site. He lists some work from home situations. But none of what he lists is keys to the castle stuff, it is work and it pays that way. And again, I would check any of it out thoroughly before sending your hard earned money.

Work From Home guide | www.clarkhoward.com (http://www.clarkhoward.com/news/clark-howard/employment-military/work-home-guide/nFZH/)

[Poyol]

Michael,

I see your name attached to many MLMs.

See: savemoney.cash@gmail.com - Google Search (http://tinyurl.com/cjkn3bv)

Which ones have you made money from?

Jason

[JustTooMuchTime]

Michael,

I see your name attached to many MLMs.

See: savemoney.cash@gmail.com - Google Search (http://tinyurl.com/cjkn3bv)

Which ones have you made money from?

Jason

Yeh. Something's not adding up here. The OP has a profile here:
Welcome To Our Mastermind Group! (http://www.mymastermindgroup.com/) that says:


"I have 25 years of experience offline Marketing. You are in the right place for your needs at the exact moment. Social Media marketer Consultant, blogger, Trainer & speaker Training on our team Best training blog you will ever see: http://www.SuccesswithMichael.com"

Why would somebody with 25 years of marketing experience who claims to be a social media marketer, consultant, blogger, trainer, and speaker be asking for this type of advice? And why would the domain go to a parked page?

[JustTooMuchTime]

Just noticed he started another thread the very next day
http://www.realscam.com/f8/looking-good-work-home-business-opportunity-2162/

[ProfHenryHiggins]

I would agree, JustTooMuchTime. Michael's lack of business savvy as I check up on his online record is profound. What sort of businessman posts both his login email and his own password for his Facebook page on a public, open forum, after all?

[Michael75065]

yup that what I mean!! Run for your life from these people. One of biggest scams I ever seen.

[Michael75065]

I closed my account Successwithmichael.com (http://www.SuccesswithMichael.com) I didn't need anymore. Bunch of idiots on here.

Empower Network is the biggest scam I ever seen. lasted 2 days and ran like hell from what I seen an all the hype and
garbage I scene. I even got sponsored free for 1 month.



Michael

[westfam11]

Michael Ladd, have you ever looked into a company or opportunity that is a real business?

I am talking about Trivita. This company is totally customer based. You also are able to purchase customers and have the lifetime rights to the commissions forever. It is not "get rich quick" which I think is what a lot of people are looking for but as you can see the risks are too great. I was not in Zeek Rewards and I feel sad for the people that lost money. But I really feel if people would look at this as building a real business and not trying to get money as quick as possible that in the long run you would have built a nice solid business that does not rely on recruiting.

Just my opinion.

[JustTooMuchTime]

Well looksy-doodle:
Web Designing : Full Service Web Devlopment Company : Website Design in USA from Michael Design Company (http://www.michaeldesigncompany.com/testimonials.html)

I'm starting to suspect (even more than I already had before) that the whole "contact me on Skype" thing is just some sort of recruiting ploy.

[Mundorf]

I feel I just got scammed let me know what you think also a lot of hype this program.

Big Ideal Mastermind is part of Empower Network. This pure hype and BS They get you join for $45. Then they tell you that this is the basic level and the training and money you make at this level is not very good and need to upgrade good to the $500 level. or $1000 or all in at $3500. They don't tell you that up front..

Read this.
The hard work will be based on where you're positioned. For someone positioned at the bottom it would take 200 sales in a month to get to $5000 per month residual. *NOT taking into account passups* Someone at the $125 silver level it would take only*40 sales. Gold level - 10 sales Platinum level - 5 sales and Diamond level - 2 sales is $6000 a month. It's much less "work" to do 2,5 or 10 sales in a month than it is to do 200. That's why Vick is always talking about how important positioning is.

Wish They told me all this before joining that you needed to up grade or go all in at $3500. They don't tell that to get you to join.

be very careful joining Empower network and a lot of hype.

Michael Ladd
I feel I just got scammed let me know what you think!!
savemoney.cash@gmail.com
skype ID Michael75065

It only means that sales and skills,work needed are not important in the whole story.What is very important is only your money - SCAM,forget it