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gabir31
03-16-2013, 10:18 AM
I was looking for information on a site called adsprofit reward and got to this site...

Do any one now this site?is it safe?

And recently I signed up to a site named united paycheck...I invested in this site 1000$ and making good money...It is really great:) my fist ever money online is with this company

What you think about UPC?

I have you tube video for my promotion efforts about my account if you want to see how its look like and to see my 1000$ or i can upload here a Screenshot (by the way its now 1399)

Thanks:RpS_smile:

ribshaw
03-16-2013, 10:25 AM
Uh right. No need for videos unless they contain kittens doing fun things, or Epic Fail Compilation 22, one of my favorites. People set up on line applications to prey on people who want to make lots of money doing nothing. Without even looking it is a scam where your "earnings" are coming from some other sucker who just signed up. It is illegal and will end in a trail of tears.

That is the best advice I can come up with.

gabir31
03-16-2013, 10:30 AM
Thank:)
Yes but i making money Without signed up any one on UPC...

Do u know adsprofit?

littleroundman
03-16-2013, 10:34 AM
Hiya gabir31 and welcome to REALSCAM.com (www.realscam.com)

If you've sent $1000 to UPC and are making "good money" as you say, how long will it take to cover your initial deposit and you start making a profit ???

littleroundman
03-16-2013, 10:40 AM
AdsProfitReward is yet another autosurf / penny auction / banners hybrid HYIP ponzi offering unattainable returns.

A waste of time and money.

gabir31
03-16-2013, 10:40 AM
Thanks:)

Well im making 1.5% a day,45% a month, so in 2 months or so...

littleroundman
03-16-2013, 10:41 AM
Thanks:)

Well im making 1.5% a day,45% a month, so in 2 months or so...

In 2 months or so your money will be long gone and so, probably, will you.

ribshaw
03-16-2013, 10:43 AM
In 2 months or so your money will be long gone and so, probably, will you.

Phooey, this means no kitten videos. :crying_2:

gabir31
03-16-2013, 10:43 AM
But i can Draw my money every day..

ribshaw
03-16-2013, 10:45 AM
But i can Draw my money every day..

Until you can't, that is where the con comes in. Could you take a minute and google "PONZI SCHEME" and then come back when you understand what is involved.

gabir31
03-16-2013, 10:46 AM
My initial investment locked hundred days but the rewards I can pull every 24 hours ...

littleroundman
03-16-2013, 10:47 AM
But i can Draw my money every day..

Maybe you "can" but do you ????

Money in an online account is nothing but numbers on a screen.

gabir31
03-16-2013, 10:49 AM
I did and got it within 24...i can show u

Do you think UPC is a scam?

ribshaw
03-16-2013, 10:51 AM
My initial investment locked hundred days but the rewards I can pull every 24 hours ...

Gabir, maybe you are a nice person who needs some help. Please read this and see if you see anything similar to what you are involved with.

A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to its investors from their own money or the money paid by subsequent investors, rather than from profit earned by the individual or organization running the operation. The Ponzi scheme usually entices new investors by offering higher returns than other investments, in the form of short-term returns that are either abnormally high or unusually consistent. Perpetuation of the high returns requires an ever-increasing flow of money from new investors to keep the scheme going.[1]

The system is destined to collapse because the earnings, if any, are less than the payments to investors. Usually, the scheme is interrupted by legal authorities before it collapses because a Ponzi scheme is suspected or because the promoter is selling unregistered securities. As more investors become involved, the likelihood of the scheme coming to the attention of authorities increases.[1]

The scheme is named after Charles Ponzi,[2] who became notorious for using the technique in 1920.[3] Ponzi did not invent the scheme (for example, Charles Dickens' 1844 novel Martin Chuzzlewit and 1857 novel Little Dorrit each described such a scheme),[4] but his operation took in so much money that it was the first to become known throughout the United States. Ponzi's original scheme was based on the arbitrage of international reply coupons for postage stamps; however, he soon diverted investors' money to make payments to earlier investors and himself.
Contents

1 Characteristics
2 Unraveling of a Ponzi scheme
3 Similar schemes
4 See also
5 References
6 Further reading
7 External links

Characteristics

Typically extraordinary returns are promised on the investment,[5] and vague verbal constructions such as "hedge futures trading," "high-yield investment programs", "offshore investment" might be used. The promoter sells shares to investors by taking advantage of a lack of investor knowledge or competence, or using claims of a proprietary investment strategy which must be kept secret to ensure a competitive edge.

Ponzi schemes sometimes commence operations as legitimate investment vehicles, such as hedge funds. For example, a hedge fund can degenerate into a Ponzi scheme if it unexpectedly loses money (or simply fails to legitimately earn the returns promised and/or thought to be expected) and the promoters, instead of admitting their failure to meet expectations, fabricate false returns and, if necessary, produce fraudulent audit reports.

A wide variety of investment vehicles or strategies, typically legitimate, have become the basis of Ponzi schemes. For instance, Allen Stanford used bank certificates of deposit to defraud tens of thousands of people. Certificates of deposit are usually low-risk and insured instruments, but the Stanford CDs were fraudulent.[6]

Initially the promoter will pay out high returns to attract more investors, and to lure current investors into putting in additional money. Other investors begin to participate, leading to a cascade effect. The "return" to the initial investors is paid out of the investments of new entrants, and not out of profits.

Often the high returns encourage investors to leave their money in the scheme, with the result that the promoter does not have to pay out very much to investors; he simply has to send them statements showing how much they have earned. This maintains the deception that the scheme is a fund with high returns.

Promoters also try to minimize withdrawals by offering new plans to investors, often where money is frozen for a longer period of time, in exchange for higher returns. The promoter sees new cash flows as investors are told they cannot transfer money from the first plan to the second. If a few investors do wish to withdraw their money in accordance with the terms allowed, their requests are usually promptly processed, which gives the illusion to all other investors that the fund is solvent.
Unraveling of a Ponzi scheme

When a Ponzi scheme is not stopped by the authorities, it sooner or later falls apart for one of the following reasons:[1]

The promoter vanishes, taking all the remaining investment money (minus payouts to investors already made).
Since the scheme requires a continual stream of investments to fund higher returns, once investment slows down, the scheme collapses as the promoter starts having problems paying the promised returns (the higher the returns, the greater the risk of the Ponzi scheme collapsing). Such liquidity crises often trigger panics, as more people start asking for their money, similar to a bank run.
External market forces, such as a sharp decline in the economy (for example, the Madoff investment scandal during the market downturn of 2008), cause many investors to withdraw part or all of their funds.

Ponzi scheme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme)

littleroundman
03-16-2013, 10:53 AM
I did and got it within 24...i can show u

So, you sent them $1000 and you withdrew how much ???

Until you have your original $1000 in your hand, you haven't "withdrawn" anything.

gabir31
03-16-2013, 10:57 AM
Yes i know this...thats way i invest on UPS so much...they are just starting and the live is about 2 years and they are online only 6 month so in 1 year i will close my account and run:)

But i dont think they are scamers

gabir31
03-16-2013, 11:00 AM
I withdrew only 21$...i reinvest and start withdrew every day in a month

ribshaw
03-16-2013, 11:02 AM
Yes i know this...thats way i invest on UPS so much...they are just starting and the live is about 2 years and they are online only 6 month so in 1 year i will close my account and run:)

But i dont think they are scamers

So you know it is illegal, you know it will collapse and you still sent them your money? Good luck with that, I am sure there is a Nigerian Prince in your future.

gabir31
03-16-2013, 11:07 AM
Well,yes i did take a risk but i didnt take it alone there are 8000 that are in UPC and they are all happy:)

UPC are from Canada...

gabir31
03-16-2013, 11:09 AM
By the way thanks on the AdsProfitReward tip...i didnt like them any way

gabir31
03-16-2013, 11:21 AM
I will update here How am I doing in another two month, soon as I finished pulling my investment so you know if its real:RpS_smile:

By the way...after you get you investment back its pure profit,so i dont think i ever close my account but withdraw some % every day

ribshaw
03-16-2013, 11:30 AM
Gabir, it is not real. The only thing real is if you are paid you are being paid with other people's money. You are stealing, plain and simple. And if you make it here, you will lose it on the next.

Now, if you want a real deal, I am friends with a Nigerian Diplomat who has some overages that were unaccounted for during a major construction project. He is trying to move the money to the states, so he and his family can flee Nigeria. He simply needs a bank account where he can temporarily deposit the funds. For your holding the money, he is willing to pay $10,000,000 US dollars. Please PM me for details.

gabir31
03-16-2013, 11:34 AM
how am i stealing if they getting 1.5% also?

ribshaw
03-16-2013, 11:37 AM
No one is getting 1.5%, you are being paid back your own money. And then you tell your friends what a great deal it is, and they join, and everyone keeps getting paid with the money from the new members. Until enough money is stolen by the people running the program and then they shut the doors.

gabir31
03-16-2013, 11:42 AM
Well,Maybe you're right ... but my money is already there, although I do not believe they will close next two years.
NVM...I hope you are wrong

ribshaw
03-16-2013, 11:49 AM
The simple answer is YOU CAN"T. Take out what you can every day. DO NOT REFER ANY NEW PEOPLE, and cross your fingers.

The BEST investors in the world, Warren Buffet, George Soros, Carl Icahn, have been able to return no more than 20% PER YEAR. And they are THE BEST. It goes down from there.

I will make an open suggestion to you as I have had many many others in the 20 or so years since I first read it. There is a book called "The Richest Man in Babylon" by George S Clason, it is cheap and a fun easy read. Read that, digest it and then spend some time thinking about what you really want to do with your hard earned money.

gabir31
03-16-2013, 11:53 AM
OK thanks:)

But i will update here as soon as i get all my money back

path2prosperity
03-17-2013, 06:36 AM
Phooey, this means no kitten videos. :crying_2:

Here are a couple for you "ribshaw"

Cat menace No1 (http://www.downvids.net/cats-can-be-jerks-401178.html)

Cat menace No 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-NKerIdIuo&feature=fvwp&NR=1)

ribshaw
03-17-2013, 08:55 AM
Thanks for the laughs P2P.

tommyosmena
05-28-2013, 08:14 AM
careful because lots of people online offered looks good, but yet it is a scam..

Wizzard7
05-28-2013, 08:46 AM
Well,Maybe you're right ... but my money is already there, although I do not believe they will close next two years.
NVM...I hope you are wrong

Gabir31,

An old expression is "There are none so blind as those who will not see", and I believe this applies to you and your rather myopic view of Ponzi schemes. Yes, this "program" you are now in, the one that "pays you" regularly, will not last. Historically, they never do. People here have given you not just their advice, but advice based on YEARS of watching these scams unfold, and then fold up like a cheap suit. This site is filled with them; you may want to have a long look at some older threads here.......

I also noticed that you use the word "invest" often, the most hated word in online scams. It infers they are selling an unregistered security, something that is highly illegal! And yet, you seem to not have any problem with this. as with the millions and millions of people before you who thought they had found an amazing "opportunity", it will vanish in a cloud of dust, minus the hearty "Hi Ho Silver, Away!!!"

if you will not head the advice given to you by knowledgeable individuals, they why ask????

voiv
07-09-2013, 09:41 AM
In 2011, I “hired” Indian American freelancer named Delson Armstrong (Delson90) to write a screenplay, or two scripts actually.
He recommended paying outside Elance, and I paid him $7500 upfront. He wrote couple of pages, but then I saw that he ran out of motivation. Maybe it had something to do with the money, and there was no contract. He realized that I live in Europe, and he was in New York, so nothing´s going to take the money away from him, whether he does the work or not.

During first 16 months, he kept on saying that everything is going as planned, he´s been working hard and written this many pages, but he doesn´t want to show it yet. Excuses and explanation “I will show it tomorrow, next week, I have been sick, it´s thanksgiving here…”
But nothing happened.
Anyway, I was hoping for a new start even though we both knew that he´s a shameless liar.
16 months: he wrote a synopsis for a regular agent story, and stuff like that.
20 months: he returned 600 dollars.
24 months: he really started writing this regular agent story he had created.
26 months: he had a 6 week pause and deleted his Elance after receiving 2.5 star feedback from another job.

I basically paid his rent or holiday trips,and wasted 6900 while he kept me hanging for two years.

Fgold
07-09-2013, 12:22 PM
Yes i know this...thats way i invest on UPS so much...they are just starting and the live is about 2 years and they are online only 6 month so in 1 year i will close my account and run:)

But i dont think they are scamers

For ponzis there are no "fixed" lifetime. It can be 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, 1 year but who know how will be the scammers performance??? Lifetime of ponzis depends on the flow of deposits/withdrawals. When positive the ponzi will keep stealing but when when become negative they will make a run. Those stats only available for ponzi managers (SCAMMERS) so if you're not one of those scammers you have no idea about when the ponzi will collapse...

According to the laws of most countries all of those who run ponzis are criminals/scammers and it does not matter what you think about it. The site you described here its a proven scam!

EagleOne
07-10-2013, 03:15 AM
I think gabir31 should stop playing with penny-ante money and take out a second and then invest all of it as well as any pension or 401(k) money into this immediately. It's time to put real money where your mouth is. After all this is a paying program and what's there to lose? Up to it gabir31?