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Soapboxmom
07-12-2010, 03:32 PM
Xocai Home Business - Xoai Top Distributors - Xocai Healthy Chocolate - Xoai MLM - Multi Level Marketing (http://www.xocolatemarketer.com/)

Brian McCoy has joined his umteenth deal. I long ago ran out of fingers to count them.


Earn $2000 - $40,000 A Month With Xocai Healthy Chocolate!

He has done dozens of these deals, but strangely after all the millions he must have earned he hasn't retired.

He thinks people are crazy enough to get on autoship and spend $110 a month for 28 1.16 ounce servings of dark chocolate. If one buys it retail it is $125 dollars.

My 72% cocoa Ghirardelli chocolate costs $2.79 a bar for 3.5 ounces. So, for $27.90 I can eat the same amount of chocolate a month. One can use olive oil, eat fish, eat nuts, and on and on to get their Omegas.

I think Brian better get ready to do his usual dump and jump.

Soapboxmom

EagleOne
07-12-2010, 09:41 PM
If I am not mistaken, this chocolate also has more sugar than other off the shelf chocolates. At least that is what someone told me that looked into this. This will sink fast due to price, forget all the other hype. Then some will fall for the sales pitch. Some never learn.

Emet
07-12-2010, 10:14 PM
Two things about his site struck me:
1. Why are 9 of the 10 top producer's names carelessly crossed out with a sharpie? Is that some eye catching new marketing technique?
2. He is a 'Xocolate marketer?' I googled Xocolate and the first hit was:
The Xocolate Bar: All Natural, Artisanal Chocolates, Organic Gelato & Edible Art (http://thexocolatebar.com/default.aspx)

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littleroundman
07-13-2010, 01:30 AM
Two things about his site struck me:
1. Why are 9 of the 10 top producer's names carelessly crossed out with a sharpie? Is that some eye catching new marketing technique?
2. He is a 'Xocolate marketer?' I googled Xocolate and the first hit was:
The Xocolate Bar: All Natural, Artisanal Chocolates, Organic Gelato & Edible Art (http://thexocolatebar.com/default.aspx)



Here we go again,

ANOTHER B/S "healthy" product with a deliberately misleading ingredients list.


Ingredients Natural Cocoa Powder, Freeze Dried Grape Concentrate, Crystalline Fructose (low glycemic), Maltodextrin (soluble dietary fiber), Natural Erythritol, Natural Flavors, Lecithin, Açaí Powder, Natural Blueberry Powder, Xanthan Gum, Saigon Cinnamon, Citric Acid, Cayenne Pepper. Contains Soy and Milk.Anyone considering paying over the market price for this rubbish would do well to research the "low glycemic" properties of "FRUCTOSE" (ask your local diabetic association about fructose and its' contribution to obesity and diabetes) as well as clarifying for themselves that 'MALTODEXTRIN" is NOT, in fact, a source of "dietary fiber" but in reality is ANOTHER form of glucose, as is "freeze dried grape concentrate"

Before falling for the "natural flavour" B/S potential consumers may also like to consider the fact "snake venom" falls into the category of being "natural"

The term "natural flavours" means nothing without further information.

Methinks there's a whole forums' worth of information debunking that ingredients list, without even considering the other "scam" aspects of the company itself.

King
07-13-2010, 05:03 AM
$30 for a fruit drink...$13 bucks for 3 ounces of chocolate...I'm scared to even know much dinner is going to cost.

Emet
07-13-2010, 08:53 AM
Anyone considering paying over the market price for this rubbish would do well to research the "low glycemic" properties of "FRUCTOSE" (ask your local diabetic association about fructose and its' contribution to obesity and diabetes) as well as clarifying for themselves that 'MALTODEXTRIN" is NOT, in fact, a source of "dietary fiber" but in reality is ANOTHER form of glucose, as is "freeze dried grape concentrate"


You can always call the diabetes hotline: 1-800-not-carbs. :RpS_rolleyes:

The "low glycemic index" card has been played ad nauseam. I posted this before on a blog about a woo product:

"Diabetes is a complex disease, and sugar, in any form is only one of a host of factors affecting blood sugar levels. While the glycemic index has potential benefits, it also has potential problems.

Fructose (low glycemic index) , especially in high quantities, increases trigycerides, intrabdominal fat, and may lead to insulin resistance. It may also block leptin, which controls appetite. Not so good for diabetics, or any one else."

Your comments about malodextrin merits further explanation:

Chemically, dietary fiber consists of non-starch polysaccharides such as arabinoxylans, cellulose and many other plant components such as resistant dextrins, inulin, lignin, waxes, chitins, pectins, beta-glucans and oligosaccharides.[1] A novel position has been adopted by the US Department of Agriculture to include functional fibers as isolated fiber sources that may be included in the diet.[1] The term "fiber" is somewhat of a misnomer, since many types of so-called dietary fiber are not fibers at all.
Food sources of dietary fiber are often divided according to whether they provide (predominantly) soluble or insoluble fiber. Plant foods contain both types of fiber in varying degrees, according to the plant's characteristics.


Dietary Fiber (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_fiber)


Maltodextrin is a polysaccharide that is used as a food additive. It is produced from starch by partial hydrolysis and is usually found as a creamy-white hygroscopic spraydried powder. Maltodextrin is easily digestible, being absorbed as rapidly as glucose, and might be either moderately sweet or almost flavorless.

Malodextrin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltodextrin)
Dextrin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dextrin)

But your point is well taken, littleroundman. They are snipping bits and pieces of real science at will, then turning them inside out to use as a selling point.

littleroundman
07-13-2010, 10:44 AM
To be clear here,

My statement above began with:


Anyone considering paying over the market price for this rubbish would do well to research

I could have chosen to instead post a multiple page thesis-like explanation of the relationship/s between fructose, diabetes and obesity, complete with diagrams and charts.

I could have also decided to post a link/links to such sites as: Fructose - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose) where readers could have learned more about fructose than they'd care to know.

Likewise, nearly every selling point of "Xocia" is deliberately misleading and/or inaccurate enough to warrant more space than a forum such as this offers to those whose interest lies in cutting through the c**p.

When it comes to exposing fraud and fraudsters, I am a firm believer in the old Chinese proverb: "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime" and have faith the great majority of readers have the ability to find out the "facts" for themselves once pointed in the "right" direction.

Emet
07-13-2010, 10:57 AM
Point taken.

Live&Learn
07-13-2010, 09:30 PM
I'm sticking with Ghirardelli!

King
07-15-2010, 05:05 PM
I'm sticking with Ghirardelli!

Hersheys silk is amazing

littleroundman
01-13-2012, 03:25 AM
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littleroundman
01-13-2012, 06:43 AM
ANYONE NOTICE ANY PARTICULAR HEALTH BENEFITS TO BE GAINED FROM EATING THE EXTREMELY OVER VALUED MLM DISTRIBUTED XOCIA DARK CHOCOLATE WHEN COMPARED TO HERSHEYS AND CADBURY ??

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Soapboxmom
01-13-2012, 10:49 AM
What a surprise to find out this one is run by scammers, liars and experienced con artists! What MLM isn't???

Soapboxmom

JustTooMuchTime
08-03-2014, 10:40 AM
"Enrique Martinez didn't like chocolate, but he was eating as many as 10 pieces a day, drinking chocolate protein shakes and rubbing a chocolate-based skin cream on his face. It was expensive chocolate, too. Martinez and his wife, Michelle, were going through $2,000 in chocolate a month.

The debt they accumulated this way — more than $100,000 over five years — is now with a consolidation company. Their credit is ruined. There is a crack in the driveway at their home in Albuquerque from a 14-wheeler that once delivered 12,000 cans of chocolate energy drinks to their garage."

Full story (it would be nice if Journalist would stop mixing up ponzis and pyramids, but oh well):

Sometimes, life is like a box of cacao products - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/08/01/sometimes-life-is-like-a-box-of-cacao-products/)

""There's something that happens to you, where you start to believe your own" sales pitch, he said, using an obscenity.

Along with the chocolate, however, Enrique did not stop taking the heartburn medication Prilosec.

He and Michelle advanced to the Platinum level in MXI's hierarchy of distributors in April 2012. To qualify, the couple bought $113,459.88 in chocolate, paying with their credit cards. Their income as Platinums didn't cover their debts. After about a year, they were forced to confront their complicity in what they now say was a business model driven by recruitment.

"Looking back on what I've done," Enrique said, "I've had to do a lot of apologizing."

Blue Wolf
09-14-2014, 10:13 AM
Sometimes, life is like a box of cacao products - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/08/01/sometimes-life-is-like-a-box-of-cacao-products/)


Martinez acknowledges that he made poor decisions. He'd misled recruits about making money. He should never have ordered that truckload of energy drinks.

He could have left MXI earlier. The hairstylist had dabbled with 16 other multilevel marketers over three decades, including Herbalife and Nu Skin.

"Eventually, you come to realize: There's something really wrong here, and I just can't keep lying to people," Martinez said. "Everybody's lying to each other."

So it took this guy 30 years to realize that there's something wrong with lying to people?

:duh:

A little bit slow, isn't he?

EagleOne
09-14-2014, 12:42 PM
The only thing "healthy" about this chocolate is the money the people at the top of this pyramid made off people like Enrique and Michelle. The sad part is that there are far too many Enrique and Michelle's in this and in every MLM. So much for caring about helping people succeed and prosper.