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scratchycat
01-01-2013, 11:06 AM
We have a new member asking what was wrong with the ad in Adlandpro about Vemma. Well, I decided to see just what was wrong.

Ripoff Report | vemma | Complaint Review: 963396 (http://www.ripoffreport.com/vemma/cult/scottsdale-arizona-b014d.htm)

vemma The Ultimate Pyramid Scheme, Make money hahahaha.... rather loose money! scottsdale, Arizona

The company is beyond pyramid scheme the actual breakdown of avg. salaries of partners is less than 500.00 pr YEAR( thats per their own lit) 30% of partners next 40% will make 1000.00 per annum. the next 20% make less than 3,000.00 per YEAR!!! Tha leaves the top 1 percent of the company making 99% of the income!!! sound familiar, but we are talking about a gap between the top 1% and the other 99% that is almost inacalculable less than 1000.for partners to 12 million for BK and a few others.( profit last year ) I have met many had working souls being sold a lie. The top 20 have been the top 20 since 2004 and know if you notice its their children who r now making $.

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Mr. Gj Ross tried to get me to "join the vemma team" when I politely declined his offer to "buy in" to his scam he began to belittle me and cast dispersions. I believe that Vemma is a Pyramid Sceme and someone should look in to this compary.

It appears that Mr. Ross is the leader of this charge to have people join his team but all it is as far as I can see is a way to take peoples hard earned money in a time of economic termoil. This exploitation of people in hard times should not be allowed and should be spoken out against.

I hope anyone else who has been "invited" into this web should come forward as well and tell their story so that others do not fall victim to this scam.

I first found out about this with a visit to his oil change shop which must be his other business. We were having an idle conversation and Vemma came up. Before I knew it Mr. Ross was trying to get me into his "team" with Vemma. I did some online research and found many other people who are very dissatisfied and felt taken by the Vemma Company.

Johhny
SEATTLE, Washington
U.S.A.
Ripoff Report | VEMMA | Complaint Review: 342300 (http://www.ripoffreport.com/alternative-health/vemma/vemma-it-s-a-pyramid-scam-se-ja569.htm)

With a little more DD we should be able to break this down and you can decide. MLM, pyramid, Scam????

Remember it is being advertised in the great Scamland known as Adlandpro...

Soapboxmom
01-01-2013, 02:09 PM
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Super Conference or Super Colossal Calamity (http://mysite.verizon.net/resurlf0/advantageconferencestruth/id13.html)

Jack Weinzierl the serial MLMer scammer from purgatory pushed Vemma for a short while and even he couldn't make a dime in that scam though he ran around claiming to be a multi-million dollar earner right after his chapter 7 bankruptcy not long after joining Vemma! The products are beyond worthless! Hilariously, he is forced to admit in his chapter 7 bankruptcy creditors meeting that he had had to quit Vemma as it was not profitable.

He himself trashed it while trying to promote the never to happen Super Conferences for Advantage Conferences. That deal sued the BBB and lost, its owner then sued me and lost that in Summary Judgment as well and finally the whole mess imploded into bankruptcy taking Weinzierl down with it! Weinzierl's idiot nephew Aaron Weinzierl, who had scammed fellow Christians using his status as a pastor in Advantage Conferences, followed him into Vemma and he too bailed quickly as Vemma was a losing proposition as well! :pt:

Soapboxmom
01-01-2013, 02:30 PM
Jack Weinzierl, President and Founder of TheChristianMentor.com from Flower Mound, Texas, is Seeking Entrepreneurs for his Expanding International Vemma Network Marketing Team

Jack Weinzierl, President and Founder of TheChristianMentor.com from Flower Mound, Texas, is seeking Entrepreneurs for his expanding international Vemma network marketing team. Jack got into the network marketing industry and marketplace ministry years ago after being the president and owner of a medical device company.



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Jack Weinzierl, President and Founder of TheChristianMentor.com from Flower Mound, Texas, is seeking Entrepreneurs for his expanding international Vemma network marketing team. Jack got into the network marketing industry and marketplace ministry (http://www.christian-network-marketing.com/network-marketing-mlm) years ago after being the president and owner of a medical device company.
"What is most important is that you believe in and are passionate about the product you're representing. I decided to partner with Vemma as the business only had one liquid nutritional product, which is also important," he continued. "It gives you something to really focus on, instead of other network marketing lines that offer a whole array of products." Jack had considered joining XanGo -- Click Here to Compare (http://www.christian-network-marketing.com/compare-vemma-xango-mangosteen) a year ago, as he saw the nutrition value in the Mangosteen (http://www.christian-network-marketing.com/mangosteen-research) fruit, but he continued his search for a more complete nutrition program.
What is this product that Jack is so passionate about? VEMMA is an acronym for Vitamins, Essential Minerals, Mangosteen and Aloe. Vemma is a once-a-day, great tasting liquid supplement. It is comprised of whole Mangosteen (http://www.christian-network-marketing.com/about-mangosteen-vemma) and pericarp rind extract, and made complete with aloe vera and green tea. It contains 12 full spectrum vitamins and powerful antioxidants. The drink also boasts 65 trace and ultra-trace plant-sourced minerals.
And, according to Jack, it just may be the next billion dollar health supplement.
"I drink a powershot of it every morning," he said. "So does my wife, and my three children. And it taste great. I could drink an entire glass of it if I wanted to, but it only requires a two ounce powershot. It's a great supplement to any diet."
"But it isn't just having a great product that matters," he said. "You've got to be committed to it as a business. This network marketing business is not a get-rich-quick scheme. I tell people that every chance I get. This is a building process; it is a 5 to10 year plan, and if you're willing to put some time and effort into it, you can do great."
But Jack conducts his business a little differently than most network marketers.
"I'm really not a salesman. I am terrible at closing. I just don't do it. I've been in the business long enough to learn everything you shouldn't do, so when I'm talking to someone about getting into the business, I really try to scare them out of it. And a few people decide it isn't for them. But if someone is considering it, I'll tell them to think about it for a few days. Pray about it with their spouse. It can be a very lucrative business opportunity. But anything worth doing is worth prayerful consideration."
Jack also says his faith plays an important role in his business dealings.
"It used to be that people were hesitant to let their faith come to the forefront of their business," he said. "But really, I think it's ridiculous to separate one's faith from their business. We are walking our talk every day in our Christ-centered business and life."
About Vemma:
Vemma's parent company, New Vision (http://www.christian-network-marketing.com/vemma-company-new-vision) is a revolutionary leader in health and wellness. With over $1 billion in total retail sales, this company helped pioneer liquid nutrition over 10 years ago by introducing the #1 selling liquid mineral supplement in North America.
Investing all the lessons learned over the last ten years in product research and business concepts, Vemma is primed to make the same intense impact. One main reason for the creation of Vemma was the tremendous amount of people that missed the New Vision billion dollar wave where people just like you got their share of over $400 million in paid commissions.
To talk to Jack about his Christ-centered business mentoring program, or to check out Vemma, the next billion dollar health supplement, visit VemmaCorp.com (http://www.vemmacorp.com) or TheChristianMentor.com Blog (http://www.christian-network-marketing.com/vemma-nutrition-christian-blog).
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Jack Weinzierl, MBA
VemmaCorp.com (http://www.TheChristianMentor.com)
817-205-9513
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Note that Jack came into this scam after having pushed other nutritional crap. He used the Christain angle in an effort to reel in trusting, clueless warm marks. He followed this scam with pushing Eiro Research (which went bankrupt) and then the Evolv zero water (that got sued by the MD Anderson Cancer Center.) Constant jump and dump MLMer as this snake oil crap is not marketable.